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A
So
good
afternoon,
good
afternoon,
everybody
and
and
welcome
along
to
our
webinar
number
five
of
go
to
cambridge
local
plan.
I
know:
there's
lots
of
you
still
arriving
so
I'll.
Just
talk
a
little
bit
whilst
people
are
still
joining
the
session,
and
so
this
is
number
five
in
a
series
of
webinars
that
we've
been
we've
been
hosting
for
you
on
the
current
consultation
on
our
preferred
options
or
first
proposals
for
greater
cambridge
local
plan.
A
They've
all
been
around
a
number
of
different
themes,
and
today's
theme
is
all
around
biodiversity
and
green
spaces,
and
we've
already
had
climate
change,
jobs
and
homes.
Our
strategy
and
and
we've
had
one
on
how
to
get
involved
with
the
consultation
as
well,
and
they
are
all
up
online
on
our
website
already
and
the
slides
as
well
from
those
previous
webinars.
So
those
of
you
have
missed
a
particular
sessions
that
you're
interested
in
you
can
go
to
them
and
I'll
give
you
some
details
at
the
end
of
how
you
can
access
them.
A
So
today's
session's
an
hour
long
and
what
we'll
do
is
we're
going
to
have
a
couple
of
presentations.
We've
got
a
really
good
panel
for
you
this
morning
this
afternoon,
should
I
say,
of
people
who've
been
involved
in
a
making
the
plan
and
also
being
involved
with
some
of
the
some
of
the
specific
areas
around
biodiversity
and
green
spaces,
and
so
we
have
a
couple
of
presentations.
A
We
have
got
a
little
bit
of
interactivity
for
you
as
well
during
the
middle
for
you
to
get
involved
as
well,
and
there
will
be
a
q,
a
function
which
is
open
to
you
all
all
the
way
throughout
the
session.
So
if
you
put
questions
in
right
from
kind
of
the
word
go
and
some
of
the
panel
will
not
be
able
to
answer
those
during
the
during
the
session,
but
we
will
have
about
15
minutes
at
the
end
as
well
to
have
a
panel
discussion
for
any
remaining
questions.
A
And
you
can
you
can
ask
questions
in
the
q
a
either
anonymous
or
legal
names
and
the
sessions
being
recorded.
As
I
said,
we
will
we're
recording
the
session,
so
we
can
put
it
up
on
the
website
afterwards.
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
now
quickly?
Is
I'm
going
to
stop
my
screen?
Sharing
and
I'm
going
to
go
around
the
panel
and
get
them
to
introduce
themselves
this
morning.
So
I'm
going
to
go
around
my
screen
to
the
left
and
I'm
going
to
go
to
diana
first.
B
C
Good
afternoon
bruce
swallow
principal
planning
policy
officer,
the
greater
cambridge
share
planning
service
and
I
look
after
open
spaces
and.
A
Thanks
john,
it's
lovely
have
you
here
today,
john
dixon.
A
Good
good
afternoon
stuart
and
thanks
for
coming
along
as
well
and
in
the
background
we've
got,
we've
got,
will
smeaton
and
tim
cliff,
who
are
helping,
run
the
technology
and
run
all
the
logistics
for
today.
So
hopefully
everything
will
go
smoothly.
They've
done
a
super
job
so
far,
but
you
know
you
know
at
the
mercy
of
technology.
B
A
Name
is
paul
froener
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
me,
I'm
assistant
director
for
strategy,
economy
and
so
part
of
the
team.
That's
putting
the
plan
together
for
greater
cambridge
and
what
I'm
going
to
do
now
is
I'm
going
to
probably
move
straight
over
quickly
just
before
I
do
just
a
little
bit
of
an
outline
of
today's
session
for
you,
so
you
guys
can
get
a
feel
for
what
it's
going
to
be
about.
A
So
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
policy
context
and
the
green
infrastructure
evidence
and
have
a
little
interactive
session
once
that's
done,
then
talk
about
biodiversity,
net
gain
and
finish
up
on
open
space
and
recreation
and
we'll
have
a
little
interactive
session
at
the
end
as
well
and,
as
I
said,
please
do
put
post
questions
into
the
chat
and
those
we
can
answer
during
the
session.
D
I
think
that's
what
we
agreed
that
was
yesterday,
though,
wasn't
it
okay,
so
good
morning,
good
afternoon,
everybody
as
I've
already
said,
my
name's
john
cornell.
I
look
after
the
natural
environment
team
here
at
greater
cambridge
shared
planning,
and
so
I
suppose,
when
it
comes
to
biodiversity
and
planning,
my
team
are
pretty
much
at
the
forefront
of
ensuring
that
you
know
what's
what's
planned
is
delivered
when
it
comes
to
biodiversity
when
it
comes
to
quality
landscaping
and
things
like
important
trees
and
important
areas
for
for
biodiversity
in
our
patch.
D
D
So
the
work
that
we're
doing
here
today
and
that
we've
been
doing
up
to
this
point
supports
things
like
the
doubling
nature
strategy
that
south
cams
district
council
bought
out
in
february
this
year.
It
also
supports
things
like
the
supplementary
planning
document
that
my
team's
been
working
on
very
hard
to
get
through
to
adoption,
we're
looking
at
that
in
early
next
year,
and
that
that
document
sounds
like
a
quite
a
bit
of
jargon.
But
supplementary
planning
document
essentially
is
a
guidance
document
for
applicants
for
folks
to
look
at
and
see.
D
Where
is
the
guidance
around
biodiversity
in
green
spaces?
Have
we
got
it
right?
What
are
we
doing?
Are
we
on
the?
Are
we
on
the
right
track?
So
that
should
be
coming
to
you
guys
early
next
year
and
we're
doing
all
of
this
work
essentially
to
ensure
that
this
first
proposal's
conversation
is
appropriate
for
residents
that
it's
it's
containing
the
right
elements
that
you
guys
need
to
understand,
what
we're
doing,
how
we're
doing
it
and
why
we're
doing
it?
D
D
We've
got
emerging
legislation
in
the
form
of
the
environment
act,
which
is
you
know
just
recently
published.
We've
got
existing
legislation
in
the
form
of
older
policies
which
are
relevant.
Of
course,
we've
got
our
emerging
local
plan
process,
which
we
hope
will
deliver
more
robust
policies
for
biodiversity
and
green
infrastructure.
D
So
it's
it's
a
tricky
balancing
act
and
it's
only
really
with
the
outreach
and
the
input
from
residents
that
we're
going
to
get
that
right
and
that's
what
we're
here
to
do
today.
D
So
the
the
goal,
the
goal,
the
aim.
The
aim
of
this
is
to
ensure
that
we
increase
our
network
of
habitats,
wildlife
and
green
spaces
for
people
and
to
ensure
that
development
really
essentially
leaves
the
natural
environment
in
a
measurably
better
place
than
it
was
prior
to
any
development
taking
place.
D
That's
the
overarching
goal
and
I'll
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
later,
when
we
talk
about
biodiversity
net
gain,
I've
probably
said
enough
for
the
time
being,
as
an
introduction,
so
I'll
now
hand
you
over
to
a
team
that
we've
been
working
with
at
lucy,
to
talk
you
through
the
evidence
base
that
they've
collected
to
help
us
get
to
the
point
that
we
have
now.
B
And
but
we
asked
a
wide
range
of
consult
stakeholders
in
the
in
the
first
instance
to
to
help
us
look
at
maps
like
the
one
you're
looking
at
now,
and
let
us
know
where
the
baseline
of
existing
assets
wasn't
quite
right
and
where
we
needed
to
be
making
changes
from
a
data
perspective
just
to
make
sure
that
we
had
the
right
baseline
map
to
start
with
next
slide.
Please.
B
This
slide
aims
to
sum
up
what
was
quite
a
sort
of
involved
method
and
overall,
the
study
was
undertaken
in
three
stages.
So
the
first
stage
focused
on
a
policy
review
mapping
the
network,
as
I
just
mentioned,
and
undertaking
a
comprehensive
review
of
existing
and
emerging
evidence
relating
to
the
various
functions
of
gi,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
incoming
information
and
a
lot
of
emerging
documents
and
studies.
So
we
organized
information
into
effectively
seven
green
infrastructure
themes
which
broadly
reflect
the
ecosystem
services.
B
That
gi
provides
so
you'll
see
the
little
icons
at
the
bottom.
Those
themes
were
landscape,
cultural
heritage
and
sense
of
place,
biodiversity
and
geo-diversity,
the
water
environment,
access
and
connectivity
recreation
and
play
carbon
sequestration,
and
then
agriculture
and
community
food
growing.
So
whilst
we
had
those
seven
themes
running
across
all
of
those
themes,
we
also
looked
at
climate
change,
well-being
and
social
inclusion
and
other
environmental
quality
factors,
and
we
engaged
with
a
large
number
of
stakeholders
throughout
the
early
stages
and
and
towards
the
end,
and
we
had
discussions.
B
We
had
technical
workshops,
emails
and
surveys
to
better
understand
the
issues
and
opportunities,
as
well
as
what
existing
gi
initiatives
were
underway.
We
found
there
was
quite
a
lot
happening
and
and
we're
also
able
to
liaise
with
the
authors
of
other
emerging
evidence
bases.
So
the
water
study,
carbon
study,
landscape
studies,
and
so
there
was
really
a
wealth
of
information
to
inform
our
more
sort
of
integrated
gi
study.
B
So
then
these
were
all
overlaid
to
identify
areas,
areas
of
search
which
you
can
see
on
that
rather
brightly
colored
map,
and
this
is
where
we
started
to
realize.
Gi
interventions
could
deliver
multiple
ecosystem
services
and
should
be
the
focus
of
our
attention.
B
So
in
the
third
stage,
moving
to
the
right
of
the
graphic
you
can
see,
we
we'd
had
a
pause
between
stages,
two
and
three,
so
we
took
time
again
to
review
emerging
evidence
and,
most
notably
around
nature
strategies
being
developed
by
the
councils
and
the
cambridge
nature
network,
the
call
for
green
sites
and
also
updated
evidence
on
recreational
pressure,
and
then
in
that
final
stage
we
brought
all
of
this
evidence
together
and
so
looking
back
at
the
areas
of
search
that
we'd
identified,
we
identified
14
strategic
gi
initiatives
I'll
run
through
a
couple
of
these
examples
shortly,
broadly
speaking,
and
these
initiatives
provide
a
framework
for
more
specific
delivery
projects
and
that
were
identified
through
the
study
and
another
important
output
of
the
study
right
in
the
bottom
corner.
B
There
was
a
series
of
policy
recommendations
and
also
some
non-policy
specific
recommendations,
focusing
more
on
the
advocacy
of
gi
and
within
the
area.
Could
I
have
the
next
slide.
Please.
B
And
yeah,
so
this
this
map
sort
of
sums
up
those
14
strategic
gi
initiatives
and
it's
a
little
bit
fuzzy.
But
of
these
you
can
see.
Nine
are
spatially
specific
and
shown
on
the
map
and
five
are
what
we
call
dispersed:
opportunities
or
initiatives.
So
these
are
more
relevant
to
a
range
of
locations
rather
than
being
spatially
focused
in
one
area.
B
So
collectively
the
initiatives
have
a
range
of
objectives,
from
revitalizing,
the
chalk
stream
network
to
enhancement
of
the
fends,
supporting
the
expansion
of
urban
tree
canopy
and
tackling
things
like
deficiencies
and
access
to
recreation
space,
amongst
other
things,
and
there's
a
lot
of
detail
in
the
final
report
on
each
of
these
initiatives.
But
just
to
give
you
a
flavor,
I
thought
I'd
focus
in
on
two
of
them.
B
B
This
is
to
address
the
deficit
in
accessible
gi
in
this
area,
but
also
to
reduce
recreational
pressure
on
existing
sites,
and
those
were
issues
that
were
raised
by
stakeholders
numerous
times.
It's
also
well
positioned
to
meet
the
demand
from
proposed
development
and
to
provide
a
connection
between
cambridge
city
and
news
valley,
and
we
developed
this
initiative
and,
alongside
the
local
nature,
partnership
and
other
stakeholders
and
it
knits
together
elements
of
the
the
cambridge
nature
network
and
a
site
suggested
through
the
call
for
green
sites
and
other
emerging
projects
and
next
slide.
Please.
B
So,
as
I
mentioned,
each
of
these
14
initiatives
has
a
really
detailed
write-up
in
the
report
and
and
each
one
covers
sort
of
a
structured
approach.
So
we
looked
at
the
overall
ambitions
and
objectives
of
the
initiative
and
it
sets
out
what
gene
what
gi
themes
the
initiative
supports.
It's
got
a
supporting
map,
an
overview
description.
B
We
also
noted
the
relationship
with
the
development
strategy,
potential
delivery
partners,
potential
delivery
mechanisms
and
funding
streams,
and
we
had
a
go
at
estimating
the
time
scale,
some
addictive
costs
and
also
the
level
of
priority,
and
each
one
is
supported
by
either
a
case
study
from
somewhere
else
in
the
country
or
a
spotlight
on
a
project,
that's
being
led
or
run
in
the
the
area
already
and
next
slide.
B
And
just
thinking
back
over
some
of
the
most
important
messages
that
came
out
of
of
all
of
this
work,
and
I
think
it's
really
worth
reiterating
that
stakeholders
remain
so
engaged
the
whole
way
through
the
study
and
everybody
that
we
spoke
to
demonstrated
willingness
to
contribute
to
the
doubling
nature
vision
and
we
also
found
so
many
ongoing
delivery
projects.
So
what
we
tried
to
do
was
knit
them
together
to
achieve
the
overall
strategic
initiative
objectives.
B
So
now,
there's
a
framework
to
bring
all
of
these
different
work
streams
together
and
is
worth
saying
that
the
resulting
initiatives
have
a
really
close
spatial
relationship
with
the
cambridge
nature
network
and
natural
cambridge's
nature
recovery
areas.
So
again,
going
back
to
what
john
was
saying:
everything's,
rowing
in
the
same
direction
and
and
by
embedding
these
initiatives
in
the
local
plan.
There's
also
an
aim
to
use
development
to
contribute
towards
these
initiatives
and
also
came
out
really
clearly
that
these
initiatives
can't
be
delivered
by
one
body
or
organization.
B
It's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
continual
dialogue
between
neighboring
authorities
and
other
organizations.
Who've
got
an
interest
in
gi
to
get
these
delivered
and
what
came
up
clearly
as
well.
Partnership
working
is
going
to
be
absolutely
crucial
to
delivering
on
the
vision
and
it's
not
easy.
No
one's
saying
it's
easy,
it's
probably
the
beginning,
and
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
commitment
and
monitoring
to
see
these
realized.
A
Thank
you
very
much
to
some
really
really
interesting
start
to
the
session,
and
I
see
a
few
questions
coming
through
already
so
so
next
up
just
gonna
get
start
to
get.
You
involved
a
little
bit
and
getting
your
brains
thinking
about
some
of
this
stuff
as
well,
and
so
we're
to
run
a
couple
of
quick
interactive
sessions.
Ask
you
a
couple
of
questions
and
those
of
you
who
have
used
this
or
been
on
previous
ones.
Previously.
Webinars
you'll
know
how
to
do
this
already
and
we're
using
something
called
mentee
today.
A
So
you
can
either
scan
that
qr
code
with
your
phone
and
then
it
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or
you
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in
that
code
and
you
should
come.
It
should
come
up
with
the
questions
that
we're
about
to
ask
you,
and
so
what
I'll
do
is?
If
you
have
any
trouble,
then
do,
let
me
know:
stick
in
the
q
a
and
we'll
try
and
get
it
sorted.
A
We
haven't
had
any
issues
so
far
and
and
hopefully
we'll
stimulate
some
views
so
just
move
on
so
okay.
So
what
we
so
we've
got,
your
opinions
really,
and
so
what
do
you
think-
and
I
think,
are
the
most
important
issues
to
address
for
our
green
infrastructure
network
and
you've
heard
some
of
those
been
mentioned
by
diana
and
also
you
know
a
very
clear
fact
that
actually,
this
stuff
is
to
be
delivered
by
multiple
people,
multiple
partners,
multiple
organizations
and,
and
actually
it's
it's
incumbent
on
us
all.
A
I
suppose
to
to
understand
how
we
can
make
those
connections
so,
but
I
think
we're
in
we're
interested
in.
Obviously
this
coming
through
our
consultation
and
I
think
in
one
of
the
questions
you've
already
seen
that
stuart's
answered
you
know,
please
go
and
put
your
detailed
comments
in,
but
actually
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
this
session
is
get
stimulate
some
views
and
stimulate
our
own
thoughts
and
how
we
continue
to
kind
of
draft
the
plan.
So
what
do
you
think
we're
getting
some
coming
through
now?
So,
hopefully
you
can
add.
A
I
think
there's
no
word
count
in
this,
so
you
can
add
whatever
you
like
and
please
no
swearing
and
or
anything
rude.
That
would
be
great.
I
think
I've
got
a
swearing-
that's
switched
off
on
this
anyway,
and
so
avoid
being
all
things
to
everyone
everywhere,
and
I
think
that's
a
very
good
comment,
because
this
is
a
land
use
plan
for
a
wide
area.
It's
a
greater
cambridge
plan,
so
we
have
to
look
at
that
whole
that
whole
area
and-
and
you
know
the
strategy
session
that
we
outlined.
A
Maybe
I
think
it
must
have
been
two
weeks
ago.
You
know
shows
you
the
nature
of
the
size
of
the
area
that
we're
planning
for
and
where
both
development
and
sort
of
the
best
places
to
put
you
know,
put
things
screen,
infrastructure,
whether
it
be
enhance
the
green
infrastructure
or
enhance
connectivity
and-
and
I'm
going
to
invite
some
of
the
panel
to
jump
in
on
some
of
these
as
we
go
through
them.
If
there's
anything
that
sticks
out
yeah,
I
mean
well
linked.
A
D
Well,
only
to
say
that
I
mean
it's
just
it's
just
good
practice
to
link
habitats
with
corridors.
I
mean
that's
a
from
an
ecological
perspective,
that's
a
sort
of
a
101
goal.
It's
what
you
want
to
be
doing.
You
know,
otherwise
you
end
up
with
isolated
pockets
of
bits
and
pieces
that
don't
really
you
know,
don't
really
do
much
if
we
can
link
those
habitats
and
the
the
biodiversity
with
green
infrastructure.
D
That
also
serves
a
multifunctional
purpose
of
getting
people
from
a
to
b
on
bicycles
or
electric
scooters
or
whatever,
whatever
we're
promoting
them.
That's
that's.
Maybe
you
know
that's,
maybe
a
a
win-win.
A
No
I'd
agree
with
that
john,
and
I
think
that
you
know
one
of
the
things
that's
a
real,
intrinsic
link
is
obviously
you
know.
You
know
we
are
doing
planning
which
is
there's
links
with
every
part
of
it,
but
the
access
to
both
open
spaces
and
green
spaces
and
nature
for
people
and
how
that
links
in
with
you
know
our
current
18
months.
A
We've
just
had
you
know,
we've
all
been
in
in
you
know,
been
locked
up
in
our
houses
for
a
long
time,
and
I
think
the
real
value
has
come
through
on
people's
being
able
to
access
green
spaces
and
green
networks
and
its
connectivity
for
nature,
but
also
connectivity
for
us
and
there's
some
comments
in
in
there
around.
Certainly
around
and
develops
being
located
close
to
green
spaces.
We've
got
a
session
tomorrow,
midday,
it's
our
last
webinar.
Actually
it's
a
focus
session
on
northeast
cambridge,
which
is
one
of
our.
A
You
know
our
areas
of
development.
In
the
plan
it's
got
an
aap
aside
and
there's
you
know,
there's
quite
a
big
focus
on
open
spaces
in
that
and
coming
forward,
not
to
overlook
the
environment
close
to
homes
as
well
as
nature
is
important
everywhere
and
absolutely-
and
you
know,
obviously
you
know
that
the
area
that
we're
planning
for
is
diverse.
A
You
know
we're
a
city
region
with
you
know
some
very
rural
intelligence,
agricultural
land
as
well,
so
there's
a
role,
there's
all
these
different
mosaics
of
kind
of
areas
and
that
are
really
important
to
try
and
connect,
and
we
hope
that
we've
started
to
really
think
about
this
in
a
comprehensive
way.
Stewart
is
there
anything
you
wanted
to
say,
because
you've
done
quite
a
lot
of
work
on
this.
F
Yeah,
it's
definitely
something
we're
still
working
on.
I
think,
as
you
said,
the
key
point
is
that
our
area
is
quite
different
in
different
parts
of
grade.
Cambridge
have
different
challenges
and
opportunities.
F
Existing
development
and
its
access
to
nature
is,
is
one
thing,
and
there
is
is
one
thing:
that's
that's
maybe
hard
to
sometimes
improve
that
that
very
local
access
to
nature,
if
you're
working
with,
what's
already
there
larger
scale,
new
development
obviously
provides
greater
opportunities
to
identify
and
design
the
development
around
that
close
access
to
nature.
But
it's
something
we've
very
much
got
in
mind.
There
are
national
access
to
natural,
green
space
standards
and
that
those
are
looking
to
be
reviewed,
so
some
something
we're
working
on
for
the
next
stage
really.
A
Yeah
and
it's
interesting
to
see
some
other
plants
coming
through
around
empowering
communities-
and
you
know
talking
to
to
the
point
that
dynamite
around
you
know
how
everybody
needs
to
get
in
involved
just
one
of
the
other
things
before
we
move
on
to
the
other
one,
and
we
are
taking
all
these
comments
on
board
as
well,
so
these
will
be
captured
in
our
consultation
plan
and
in
terms
of
you
know
where
we
capture
your
comments.
But
you
know,
as
you
there's
some
good
stuff
coming
through.
Please
get
this
into
the
consultation
as
well.
F
There's
an
interesting
one
there
on
the
food
farming
and
countryside
commissions
today,
I
think
the
last
of
our
gi
initiatives.
Turner
is
on
environmentally
sustainable
farming
and
recognizing
that
that's
pretty
much
entirely
outside
of
planning
as
such,
because
it
doesn't
involve
development.
It's
key
to
recognize
that
again,
we
need
to
work
with
everybody
to
to
make
this
stuff
happen
on
on
a
range
of
scales
and
in
different
situations
throughout
our
area.
So
it's
definitely
a
very
important
one.
E
So
there's
a
lot
of
overlap
here
with
our
great
places
theme,
so
we've
tried
in
in
the
consultation
documents
to
set
out
what
we
think
good
development
is
here
would
actually
look
like
what
features
would
it
need
to
include
what
characteristics
would
need
to
address,
and
I
think
we've
picked
up
points
about
the
connectivity
and
the
greening
of
space
and
so
on
in
those
policies,
but
you
might
want
to
provide
some
of
this
feedback
on
those
policies
as
well.
How
should
we
design
places
to
perhaps
link
to
that
wider
green
infrastructure
network?
A
A
Yeah
absolutely,
and
then
this
is
the
second
question
and
john
cornell
and
I've
got
two
john's
with
me
today.
It's
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
biodiversity
net
gain
in
the
next
section,
but
before
we
do
that,
I
think
it's
really
useful
and
there's
some.
Obviously
you
know
it's
very
clear
about
the
links
between
you
know:
biodiversity
and
green
and
green
infrastructure
and
green
spaces.
But
you
know,
I
think
what
we'd
like
to
get
you
thinking
about
now
is
what
you
think
are
the
most
important
issues
to
address
in
improving
biodiversity.
A
I
mean
there's
a
comment
in
the
last
section
that
people
are
very
concerned
about
not
just
habitat
loss
but
lots
of
species,
and
I
think
we're
all
very
concerned
here
about
those
things
too,
and
I
think
it'd
be
good
to
get
your
views
on
what
you
think
about
that
before
we
go
in
and
john's
going
to
give
you
a
bit
of
detail
around.
A
A
Looking
after
this
piece
of
work,
I
come
from
an
environmental
background
and
this
is
you
know
you
know,
I
remember
talking
about
this
stuff,
maybe
10
15
years
ago,
when
there
was
very
little
movement
in
that
space
and
it
does
seem
to
have
gathered
traction.
Yes,
there's
a
lot
of
kind
of
you
know
global
international.
A
So
you
know
what
are
the
things
that
you
think
about
that
and
reduction
in
the
abstraction
I
mean
the
water
issues
are,
are
absolutely
something
we're
we're
critically
aware
of,
and
you
know
we
did
a
whole
session
last
week
on
climate
change
and
gave
you
know,
gave
a
lot
of
weight
to
it,
trying
to
explain
some
of
the
ways
we've
approached
looking
at
the
water
issues
and-
and
it's
definitely
you
know
it's
a
definite-
it's
a
definite
high
priority
in
this
plan
to
ensure
that
we're
you
know
we're
we're
we're
doing
what
we're
doing
in
a
sustainable
manner
and,
and
you
know,
improving
using
development
or
using
growth
in
current
economic
mechanisms,
we
have
to
deliver
to
improve,
to
provide
resilience
to
you
know
what
may
have
not
been
improved
in
the
past.
A
So
so
that's
definitely
one
of
our
high
priorities
and
climate
change.
You
know,
I
don't
think
you
can
decouple
biodiversity,
green
infrastructure,
climate
change.
Arguably
you
know
well-being,
you
know
they're
very,
very
they're
very,
very
closely
and
intrinsically
linked,
as
you
know,
concepts
really.
We
don't
know
you
know,
alongside
sort
of
you,
the
fact
that
we're
actually
trying
to
plan
to
deliver
net
zero.
A
We
also
are
aware
that
climate
change
is
actually
happening,
so
we
have
to
also
prepare
for
that
to
happen
and
our
green
spaces
and
our
biodiversity
has
a
key
role
in
helping
mitigate
some
of
the
impact
that
we're
already
seeing
right
now
and
of
climate
change.
You
know
some
of
the
you
know
extreme
weather
that
we're
all
starting
to
see
we'll
continue
to
see
over
time.
A
Anything
on
there.
That's
sticking
out
any
any
of
these
for
you
guys
on
the
panel
and
there's
some
questions
around
bng
and
I'm
sure
john
will
be
happy
to
get
involved
in
those
you
know
in
in
a
little
minute,
because
he's
right
at
the
sharp
end
of
that
with
his
team
in
terms
of
you
know
not
just
the
policy
work
that
we're
doing,
but
also
at
the
development
management
side
of
things.
In
terms
of
assessing
that
from
how
we
ensure
that
the
energy
is
included.
F
I
think
that's
really
important
important,
there's
just
fundamentally
there's
that
balance
of
of
stuff
for
people
and
stuff
for
wildlife,
and
I
think
that,
hopefully,
the
strategic
initiatives
that
binary
colleagues
have
put
together
and
that
we're
putting
forward
provide
that
balance
so
that
some
of
them
are
very
specifically
to
me,
the
needs
of
wildlife
and
to
expand
the
area
around
those
protected
sites,
so
that
there's
less
pressure
on
those
sites
and
then
some
of
them,
such
as
that
north
cambridge
green
space,
very
particularly
to
provide
space
with
people,
so
they're,
not
gonna,
so
that
we
as
people
don't
go
over
somewhere
else
and
travel
all
over
the
the
wildlife
site.
F
B
E
Interesting
one
there
about
peatland,
which
again
overlaps
with
our
climate
change
evidence,
indeed
that
that
picked
up
on
that
particular
issue
about
protecting
important
carbon
sinks
when
you're
planning
for
future
development.
So
again,
another
evidence-based
link
with
the
the
climate
change
evidence,
which
is
also
in
the
document
widely.
B
Worth
saying,
although
we
looked
sort
of
broad
areas
of
search,
did
look
for
areas
of
sort
of
multiple
benefits
and
looking
where
you've
got
multiple
ecosystem
services.
Sometimes
you
do
just
need
to
focus
on
the
one
sort
of
priority,
and
sometimes
that
is
sort
of
biodiversity
and
and
keeping
people
away,
but
then
sort
of,
alternatively,
providing
them
with
something
else.
Yeah.
A
The
one
that's
really
sticking
in
my
mind
is
around
urban
species
as
well,
because
you
know
we,
you
know
we're
doing
a
session
today
on
green
infrastructure
and
biodiversity.
A
Of
course,
biodiversity
doesn't
just
exist
in
green
spaces,
and-
and
actually
you
know
the
really
important
thing
you
know
in
questioning
around
you
know
there
are
you
know
we
have
got
some.
You
know
small
green
belt
release
proposed
in
the
strategy,
and
but
there
is
always
a
lot
of
sensitivity
around
greenbelt,
but
you
know
you
also
must
remember
that
actually,
brownfield
land
has
huge
opportunities
for
biodiversity
as
well,
and
actually
this
is
it's
really
important
to
consider
this
stuff
in
the
round.
What
are
we
talking
about
achieving
in
terms
of
impact?
A
Are
we
talking
about
numbers
and
quantity
or
we're
talking
about?
Actually,
you
know
quality
of
space
for
different
things
and
quality
of
space
for
our
biodiversity.
So
you
know,
I
think
these
are
all
really
important
things
I'm
going
to
move
on,
because
I'm
aware
that
we're
running
through
time,
we've
got
really
good,
really
good
little
next
step
from
from
john
as
well.
Some
questions
coming
in
here
saying
thank
you
for
your
input.
Hope
that
was
useful.
D
Thanks
paul,
okay,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
biodiversity
net
gain
now
and
of
course,
you
know
we
don't
want
to
blind
you
with
gobbledygook,
it's
all
too
easy
to
do
when
you're
talking
about
these
sorts
of
things,
but
also
we,
you
know,
we
don't
want
to
leave
you
sort
of
guessing
either.
D
D
So
if
you
could
just
pass
on
to
the
next
slide,
please
paul
so
biodiversity
net
gain,
as
I'm
sure
many
of
you
are
aware,
is
an
approach
that
aims
to
leave
biodiversity
in
a
measurably,
better
condition
than
before
the
development
took
place.
That's
assuming
that
the
development
does
take
place.
Of
course,
it's
a
compensation
approach
to
offsetting
from
loss
of
biodiversity
from
development,
and
it's
it's
an
improvement.
D
Folk
still
have
questions
about
biodiversity
in
that
game,
we'll
get
to
those
a
little
bit
later,
but
it
is
a
huge
improvement
and
it's
it's
staying
with
a
particular
trajectory
around
enhancing
biodiversity
and
protecting
it.
D
The
old
system,
if
you,
if
you
wind
back
the
clock,
a
few
years,
talked
about
something
called:
no
net
loss
and
no
net
loss
was
what
it
said
on
the
tin
that
when
you,
when
you
developed
some
land
when
you,
when
you
build
something
that
there's
no
net
loss
to
the
biodiversity,
that
was
there
and
it
didn't
really
work.
To
be
honest,
there
usually
was
net
loss.
You
know
people
fudged
figures
and
developers,
you
know
we
don't.
D
D
Now,
for
the
last
well,
the
last
few
years,
certainly
going
back
to
2012
national
planning
policy
framework
document
talked
about
measurable
net
gain,
but
unfortunately,
the
good
folk
that
put
that
together
didn't
talk
about
how
much
net
gain
and
so
measurable.
Well,
that
can
be
one
percent,
can't
it
can
be
10,
it
can
be
whatever
you
want
it
to
be,
and
so
that
wasn't
it
while
it
was
helpful,
it
wasn't
really
as
helpful
as
it.
It
could
should
have
been.
That's
now
been
fixed,
thankfully,
by
the
environment
bill.
D
Now
the
environment
act
which
was
passed
and
got
loyal,
sent
last
tuesday,
possibly
the
tuesday
before
november,
the
9th
and
within
the
environment
act.
It
now
says
quite
clearly:
thou
shalt
require
developers
to
deliver
a
minimum.
Okay,
a
minimum
of
10
biodiversity
net
gain
as
a
result
of
their
development
scheme.
D
Okay,
so
I
think
we've
got
a
very
solid
base
there
from
which
we
can.
We
can
move,
and
just
so
you
know,
other
local
authorities
around
england
have
been
doing
this
for
some
time
in
there
through
their
local
plan
process,
because
obviously
everybody's
on
a
different,
slightly
different
time
scale.
D
Now
again
we're
in
the
early
stages
of
this
conversation.
Is
it
practical,
some
will
say?
No,
some
will
say.
Yes,
it
absolutely
is.
Some
will
tell
us
it's
not
enough.
So,
of
course
you
know,
we've
got
a
very
mixed
bag
of
of
opinions
and
we
have
to
go
on
the
science.
We
have
to
go
on
what
the
best
practice
around
the
country
is
telling
us
what
works
and
what
doesn't.
D
D
Okay?
Well,
how
long
have
you
got?
There's
there's
a
number
of
reasons,
probably
as
long
as
your
arm.
So
you
know
this
is
this
is
not
everything,
but
there
is
just
a
few
that
I
thought
of
biodiversity
historically
at
development
sites,
not
everywhere
not
everywhere
by
any
means,
but
historically
much
like
quality
landscaping.
D
It's
been
a
bit
of
an
afterthought.
It's
been
a
bit
of
a
tick
box
approach.
It's
been
a
bit
of
a
you,
know,
shove
it
over
there
in
the
corner
and
job
done,
and
so
what
we've
ended
up
with
is
really
not
much
of
a
legacy
in
terms
of
biodiversity
from
previous
developments,
there
are
some
exceptions
here
in
canberra.
By
chance,
more
than
design
we've
got
fantastic,
green
spaces
managed
by
the
wildlife
trust
which
are
good
for
well-being
good
for
for
walks
at
lunch
time,
but
they're
also
good
for
the
biodiversity
here.
D
So
it
does,
it
does
happen,
but
it
is,
as
I
said
here
in
canborn.
Rather,
I
think
it
was
a
rather
by
design.
It
was
a
more
of
an
accident
that
we've
ended
up
with
what
we
have
there's.
Also,
a
huge
body
of
shifting
public
sentiment
towards
this,
partly
because
of
covid
people
have
found
that
they,
you
know
they
like
their
their
local
park.
They
don't
want
it
built
on
yeah.
D
They
like
hearing
the
birds,
so
there
was
a
huge
body
not
just
locally
but
globally,
of
shifting
public
sentiment
towards
nature
and
biodiversity
being
something
of
value.
D
We
need
to
reverse
the
biodiversity
loss
which
accelerated
in
the
mid
20th
century
after
the
the
last
war,
really
quite
quite
a
lot,
and
since
then,
we've
not
really
we've
not
really
done
done
well
for
biodiversity
in
this
country,
it's
it's
just
gone
down
and
down
and
down
development's,
played
a
a
big
part
of
that.
D
So
we'd
like
to
reverse
that
it's
not
just
about
protecting
what
we
have
it's
about,
enhancing
and
growing
that
network
and
again
I've
mentioned
links
to
health
and
well-being
who
doesn't
like
a
nice
walk
in
the
countryside
close
to
where
you
live
with.
You
know
quality
green
spaces
rather
than
sort
of
dysfunctional
parks
with
their
coat
cans
and
blowing
debris.
We
don't
want
that.
Do
we
so
you
know
this
all
links
together
and
hopefully
we
can.
We
can
join
it
up
next
slide,
please
paul.
D
So
how
does?
How
does
it
work
briefly
conscious
of
time?
Well,
one
thing
biodiversity
doesn't
do,
but
obviously
net
gain
doesn't
do
it
doesn't
change
legal
protections
for
important
biodiversity
that
that
stays
unchanged,
really
all
existing
habitats
and
their
condition
on
a
site
so
on
a
proposed
development
site
before
any
spades
go
in
the
ground,
we
need
to
capture
what
the
base
conditions
are
for
the
biodiversity
on
that
site.
We
need
to
measure
the
habitats
we
need
to
measure.
D
What's
there
and
actually
again
in
the
environment,
act
developers
are
going
to
have
to
come
forward
with
something
called
a
biodiversity
net
gain
plan
and
that
that
net
gain
plan
will
have
to
demonstrate
that
they
have
correctly
measured
the
existing
conditions
on
the
site.
What's
there,
they
can't
fudge
it.
It's
got
to
be
approved
by
local
members
with
the
local
planning
authority
and
so
that
again,
that's
a
new
process.
D
That's
come
forward
in
the
environment
act,
so
we're
sure
when
the
development
takes
place,
we're
certain
of
what's
there
before
it
happens,
and
therefore
we
can
measure
net
gains
accurately
out
the
back
end
of
that
developments
must
not
only
protect
but
enhance
and
create
new
habitats
and
again
this
is
this-
is
similar
language.
D
It's
about
enhancing
it's
not
just
about.
You
know
we're
not
going
to
lose
that
that
would
over
there,
what
we're
going
to
hopefully
move
towards
is
a
situation
where,
from
development
existing
biodiversity
is
enhanced,
so
we
can
add
to
it.
We
can
add
to
our
strategic
networks,
we
can
add
corridors,
we
can
look
at
brownfield
sites
and
we
can
hopefully
get
it
right
with
the
help
of
the
partners
like
the
wildlife
trust
cppf
like
rspb
natural
england.
All
of
those
folks
I
mentioned
earlier
it's
a
joint
effort
that
isn't
to
say
I
must
just
add.
D
We
will
always
agree
much
like
any
debate.
Any
conversation
you'll
have
folk
on
different
edges
of
the
spectrum.
Some
wanting
to
pull
us
all
the
way
this
way
and
others
wanting
to
pull
us
all
the
way
that
way-
and
I
think
you
know
if
we're
gonna-
have
a
grown-up
conversation-
there
must
be
recognition
of
that.
You
cannot
please
everybody
all
the
time,
so
there
will
be
elements,
I'm
sure
that
that
will
be
contentious
and
it
will
be
difficult
to
resolve.
But
it's
through
conversation
that
we
hope
we
can
do
that
next
slide.
Please
paul.
D
So
this
is
one
of
the.
This
is
one
of
the
thorny
topics
that
we're
not
going
to
get
into
too
much
today
because
it
could
last
the
whole
afternoon
but
on-site
versus
off-site.
D
D
I
can
tell
you,
though,
now
looking
at
the
the
plans
that
we
get
in
front
of
us
weekly,
that
that's
not
the
way
that
developers
typically
thinking
in
the
past,
there's
not
going
to
have
to
be
a
characteristic
approach,
but
I
suspect
we're
going
to
struggle
to
get
biodiversity
net
gain
at
10,
even
at
5,
in
some
places,
within
the
redline
boundaries
of
our
development
sites.
Okay,
now
you
might
like
that
you
might
not
like
that.
I'm
sure
some
people
won't,
but
it's
a
reality.
D
It's
a
fact,
and
therefore
we
have
to
have
an
answer
for
taking
that
biodiversity
elsewhere,
and
that
will
be
an
off-site
biodiversity
mechanism
which
will
feed
into
the
sorts
of
strategic
locations
that
diana
from
luc
was
showing
us
earlier
that
strategic
mapping
that
we've
done
and
we've
done
that
in
partnership,
as
I've
said
with
all
of
those
other
organizations,
so
we've
not
gone
out
on
the
limb
and
decided
you
know
would
like
a
green
blob
over
here.
D
It's
been
done
in
a
joined
up
coordinated
way,
and
the
thing
is
is
that
if
we
cannot
get
the
biodiversity
net
gain
on
site,
then
we're
going
to
have
to
take
it
off
site
and
the
way
to
do
that
is
to
put
it
in
a
strategically
agreed
location
that
enhances
the
biodiversity
for
the
district
for
the
county
for
the
wider
area.
As
I
said
it
is
it's
going
to
be
contentious,
but
we're
going
to
have
to
we're
going
to
have
to
do
something.
We
can't
sit
on
the
fence.
D
The
alternative
is
that
you
get
to
you,
get
planning
developments
which
don't
meet
their
net
gain
requirement
and
then
get
refused
a
planning
committee.
That's
not
really
an
option
either.
Is
it
so
it's
going
to
be
tricky,
as
I've
said
before,
our
goal
is
to
protect
and
enhance
existing
biodiversity
first,
but
then
go
on
to
enhance
more
offsite
biodiversity,
enactment
enhancement.
Sorry
enhancement
is
an
option,
and
it's
one
that
I've
just
talked
about,
and
there
are
various
options
for
that
coming
forward.
D
Natural
england
will
eventually,
hopefully,
sooner
rather
than
later,
have
a
register
of
approved
sites
around
the
country
that
we
can
use
to
place
or
enhance
biodiversity
on,
and
that
that
will
be
a
mechanism
that
we
still
trying
to
work
out.
So
we
haven't
fully
thought
that
through
we
don't
have
all
the
answers
around
that,
but
it's
the
direction
of
travel
that
we're
moving
in
next
slide.
Paul.
Please.
D
D
What
do
you
think
we're
using
evidence,
as
we've
already
seen
from
dinah's
presentation,
to
identify
where
to
put
that
png
we're
going
to
introduce
a
mechanism
for
ensuring
in
perpetuity?
This
was
one
of
the
questions
on
the
chat,
how
to
ensure
that
this
stuff's
managed
and
monitored.
Well,
we
in
perpetuity
in
perpetuity
means
30
years.
D
Okay,
don't
ask
me
who
thought
of
that,
but
that's
that's
the
goal.
The
gold
standard
30
years
in
the
biodiversity
net
gain
plan.
There
will
need
to
be
a
transparent
and
a
costed
management
plan
that
sets
out
how
the
proposal
plans
to
meet
that
30-year
commitment.
We
can't
just
have
things
popping
up
for
five
minutes
and
then
being
you
know,
being
dead
or
plowed
up
in
in
a
few
years.
That
will
not
happen.
It
can't
happen.
It's
not
it's
not
the
system's,
not
designed
for
that
sort
of
short-termism.
D
It's
more
designed
for
the
long
term
and,
of
course,
some
as
I've
already
said.
All
of
this
is
really
hope,
helping
us
to
support
things
like
the
doubling
nature
strategy
and
the
other
council
goals,
which
we
have
to
enhance
biodiversity
on
our
patch
and
hopefully
improve
well-being
for
everybody
and
a
place
to
live
for
our
biodiversity.
D
So
that's
that's
my
brief
whip
through
biodiversity
net
gain
we'll
try
to
answer
questions.
If
you
have
any
well,
I
believe
we're
going
to
move
on
to
to
green
spaces.
Now,
thanks.
C
Thank
you,
john,
so
so
my
name
is
bruce
waller.
I
look
after
sports
and
open
spaces
and
the
great
cambridge
share
planning
service.
I
just
want
to
briefly
cover
the
evidence,
studies
we're
going
to
be
preparing
to
help
support
the
review
of
the
local
plan
for
greater
cambridge,
so
I'll
start
off
with
the
great
cambridge
playing
pitch
strategy
along
with
the
indoor
sports
facility
strategy.
C
We
already
have
these
strategies
in
place
which
covers
the
growth
in
the
current
local
plans
for
2031,
and
we
have
started
to
update
these,
taking
into
account
growth
that
we've
outlined
in
the
first
proposals
2041.
C
These
basically
follow
sport.
England's
methodology
focusing
in
playing
big
strategy
to
do
with
outdoor
cricket
football
hockey
and
rugby
pitches,
and
the
indoor
sports
facility
focuses
on
indoor
sports
halls.
Other
indoor
sports
facilities,
including
swimming
pools,
in
addition
to
these
two
strategies,
we're
also
going
to
be
completing
an
outdoor,
quartz
and
rink
strategy.
C
So
the
idea
is
is
that
we
will
have
a
comprehensive
portfolio
of
documents
to
support
our
strategy
for
providing
sports
and
recreation
for
greater
cambridge
and
then
next
year.
We
are
planning
to
update
the
open
space
and
recreation
strategy
if
we
could
have
the
next
slide.
Please
I'm
just
going
to
go
to
this
bit
more
detail,
because
I
know
it's
quite
very
important
for
for
people,
so
this
to
clarify
focuses
on
the
urban
and
village
open
spaces,
so
it
will
involve
reviewing
the
current
open
spaces
at
the
moment.
C
So
we're
going
to
be
reviewing
these
standards
and
given
how
cambridge
urban
extensions
have
started
to
move
into
south
cambridgeshire,
in
effect
we're
thinking
that
maybe
it'll
be
more
appropriate
to
have
an
urban
and
rural
standard
to
reflect
their
differing
urban
characteristics.
C
So
we'll
be
exploring
this
option
and
looking
at
perhaps
the
suitable
areas
which
include
an
urban
standard.
So
this
might
be,
for
example,
the
urban
mccain
bridge
itself,
including
the
old
extensions
which
extend
up
to
the
a14
and
m11
to
the
north
and
west
respectively
and
as
well,
including
the
new
towns
of
canberra
north
stone,
water
beach,
which
themselves
will
be
more
of
an
urban
development,
as
opposed
to
your
traditional
rural
developments.
C
But
I
think
it's
important
to
highlight
how
open
spaces
is
going
to
be
quite
pivotal
in
helping
to
deliver
a
number
of
area-wide
strategies,
for
example,
helping
to
mitigate
changing
climates
and
helping
to
reduce
urban
heat
islands
in
urban
areas,
helping
to
provide
spaces
to
support
ecological
improvements,
as
well
as
helping
to
deal
with
flooding
such
as
the
provision
of
sustainable
urban
drainage
schemes
and,
obviously,
with
the
recent
past
18
months
of
how
there's
been
much
greater
focus
on
health
and
well-being,
both
physical
and
mental.
C
It's
important
that
we
take
account
of
how
these
spaces
can
deliver
on
these
agendas,
as
well
as
encouraging
people
to
actually
live
active,
healthy
lifestyles,
not
just
when
it's
fair
weather,
but
throughout
the
year
for
all
ages,
all
abilities
we're
all
different
people.
We
all
want
to
do
different
things
at
different
times,
and
it's
seeing
how
we
can
perhaps
help
deliver
on
that.
C
I
also
just
want
to
follow
up
on
green
spaces:
local
green
space
designations
in
particular,
so
we
we
originally
tried
to
do
local
green
space
designations
through
the
local
plan
process.
C
However,
it
was
quite
difficult
to
actually
get
sites
designated
to
that.
The
inspector
has
some
rather
high
standards,
so
it
was
difficult
to
prove
the
local
significance
at
a
district
level,
so
we're
proposing
that
in
future,
local
green
space
designations
will
be
reviewed
through
the
neighborhood
plan
process.
A
Thanks
bruce
thanks
john,
very
helpful
and,
as
I
said,
the
slides
will
be
up
afterwards,
so
we've
got
a
bit
of
time
now
we
have
got
an
interactive
session,
but
we
we
also
want
to
take
some
questions.
We
have
been
answering
questions
in
the
chat
there
are
still
some
coming
through,
so
please
do
start
putting
your
questions
in
and
we
can
answer
them
as
we
go
along.
A
We
just
have
a
quick,
a
quick,
interactive
session,
we'll
run
it
whilst
you're
asking
questions
as
well
and
I'll
I'll
I'll
kind
of
try
to
compare
both
of
them
at
the
same
time,
as
is
so
haven't
ever
think
about.
You
know
in
relation
to
what
bruce
has
said
as
well,
but
also
in
kind
of
a
wider
piece
around.
A
A
A
A
Multiple
layers
of
governance,
the
multiple
stakeholders,
the
multiple
land
owners
of
particular
green
spaces,
parks,
open
spaces,
each
council,
and
it
kind
of
goes
to
the
question
earlier
on
around
you
know:
how
do
we
ensure
that
who
looks
after
whose
stewards
green
space
is
going
forward
and
much
of
that
stuff
is
actually
outside
of
what
we
can
do
in
planning
policy,
but
actually
that's
why
we
need
to
be
collaborating
on
different
levels
with
different
organizations
about
how
these
things
run.
You
know
certain
councils
run
their
own
parks
and
open
spaces.
A
The
way
that
the
fpa
is
currently
working,
as
my
understanding
of
it
goes,
is
that
actually
all
of
the
members
of
all
councils
within
the
entire
campaign
area
are
actually
sat
on
that
project
board
at
the
moment
and
are
feeding
into
both
funding
mechanisms
and
also
kind
of
stewardship
models
for
the
future,
and
that
project
will
be
up
and
running,
and
what
I'll
try
and
do
is
I'll,
get
away
and
I'll
put
a
link
up
on
the
site
and
to
the
fpa
project.
So
you
people
can
see
what
it
is
certain
that
that's
happening
there.
A
So
some
thoughts
coming
through
into
the
into
the
movie.
D
Can
I
just
answer
a
quick
question
from
I
meant
to
answer
earlier
when
I
was
talking
about
b
and
g
and
got
sidetracked,
I'm
afraid,
but
dick
newell
wrote
in
right
at
the
beginning
actually
about
nest,
spaces
and
swift
boxes,
and
I
just
wanted
to
reply
to
dick
that
we've
we've
been
looking
at
this
in
the
spd
because
we
want
the
guidance
in
that
document
to
be
accurate
and
up-to-date
and
fit
for
purpose
and
actually
what
we've
discovered.
D
Having
had
a
bit
of
a
look
around
the
country,
what's
going
on
elsewhere
with
bird
boxes
and
bat
boxes,
provision
for
developments
is
that
there's
a
british
standard
now
for
this,
and
so
we've
gone
ahead
and
purchased
that
I
think
it's
about
20
quid
it's
not
much
and
we're
going
to
incorporate
the
guidance
in
that
british
standard
into
the
spd
right
at
the
the
place.
I
think
dick,
where
you
have
previously
an
action
for
swift's
has
previously
said.
You
know
what
this
is
a
bit
lacking.
D
You've
got
a
paraphrasing
you've
got
you've
got
to
tighten
this
up,
so
we're
absolutely
taking
that
on
dick
we're.
Taking
your
your
comments
on
we're
going
to
get
that
british
standard
in
the
spd,
and
hopefully
that
will
help
to
improve
things
and
clear
things
up.
A
Thanks
john,
that's
really
helpful.
I'm
going
to
answer
a
few
questions
here.
People
feel
free
to
add
some
thoughts
into
the
mentee
and
we
can
discuss
them
as
we
as
we're
working
through
questions
as
well.
I'm
going
to
go
to
where
do
the
existing
and
proposed
country
parks
fit
in.
Are
these
considered
more
nature's
places
or
recreation?
I'm
going
to
pick
that
up
stuart?
Maybe
you.
F
I
think
it
probably
comes
back
to
that
and
it's
again
obviously
they
can.
They
can
do
both
of
that
and
it's
just
important,
I
think,
to
make
for
those
people
managing
those
parks
to
to
be
clear
on
what's
the
nature
and
what's
for
people
such
that,
you
don't
put
too
much
pressure
on
well,
I
think
probably
was
the
biodiversity
being
a
key
point,
but
then
providing
that
space
for
people
providing
extra
benefits
so
long
as
it's
not
impacting
negatively
on
on
the
biodiversity.
A
It's
just
working
out
what
what
the
priority
is
for
that
space,
but
seeking
to
to
manage
that
balance.
So
we
can
provide
the
best
for
both
yeah
absolutely,
and
I've
got
a
comment
here
around.
How
confident
can
we
be
that
policies
seeking
to
protect
and
enhance
biodiversity
will
not
be
undermined
by
other
big
issues
that
still
have
to
be
resolved,
such
as
water
supply,
sufficient
quality
or
quantity
needed
for
new
development
planned
and
don't
know
if
john
dixon,
you
might
want
to
talk
to
this
one
actually.
E
So
I
guess
that's
really
the
role
of
the
evidence
base
and
the
plan
making
process
we're
going
through
so
as
you've
seen
today
and
at
the
other
webinars
we're
trying
to
develop
a
what,
I
think
is
a
comprehensive
evidence
base
exploring
what
all
the
sustainability
issues
around.
You
know:
environment,
social
and
economic
issues
to
inform
that
plan,
making
process
to
understand
that
we
have
a
sustainable
development
strategy
and
we'll
continue
to
develop
that
evidence
base
as
we
go
through
the
process
and
when
we
reach
the
end
of
the
process
and
we
submit
the
plan.
E
The
council's
wish
to
adopt
that
itself
will
be
subject
to
the
independent
examination
which
will
test
whether
that
plan
is,
is
sound
being
informed
by
evidence
base
and
and
comments
received
on
consultations
at
those
later
stages.
So
there
is
a
lot
of
work
going
on
to
make
sure
we
do
have
a
plan
that
delivers
sustainable
development
and
there's
a
lot
still
to
do.
But
I
would
hope
that
gives
you
the
answer
to
that
one
as
we
go
forward.
B
Might
be
worth
mentioning
that
I
think
I
mentioned
it
earlier,
but
whilst
we
were
developing
the
gi
evidence,
we
were
lucky
enough
to
be
able
to
have
quite
open
conversations
with
those
who
were
developing
the
integrated
water
management
strategies,
so
they
were
looking
through
the
lens.
Through
those
discussions
we
could
look
through
their
lens.
They
could
look
through
our
lens,
so
the
strategic
initiatives
you'll
see
some
of
them
do
actually
pick
up
on
points
that
have
come
from
that
strategy
as
well
and
thinking
about
how
they
can
integrate.
A
Yeah
you
know
so
yeah
I
mean
I'm
aware
on
time.
I'm
happy
to
run
over
for
a
few
more
minutes,
because
I
think
there's
some
questions
here
be
good
to
answer
them
now,
and
so
it
might
come
back
to
you
down
actually
on
this
one.
So
it
feels
like
gi,
ambition's,
overwhelmingly
biodiversity
focus
geo
can
perform.
Many
ecosystem
functions
might
not
be
part
of
the
network
to
form
green
infrastructure
function,
or
example,
sustainability
and
drainage
in
highly
urbanized
areas.
A
Will
other
gi
functions
also
be
given
considerable
weight
through
planning
system,
for
example
through
eng
on
capital?
I
think
eng
you're
talking
about
environmental
net
gain,
it's
probably
less
worked
up
as
a
concept
than
bng,
but
do
you
find
that
you
wanna.
B
Yeah
I
mean
perhaps
some
reassurance
we,
we
were
definitely
a
multi-disciplinary
team.
So,
yes,
there
were
sort
of
ecology-focused
specialists,
but
there
was
also
a
landscape,
specialist
and
heritage
sort
of
historic
environment
specialist.
So
I
do
think
through
our
sort
of
themed
approach.
We
gave
each
theme
enough
attention
and
then
we
focused
on
how
those
could
be
woven
together.
B
So
I'd
yeah.
I
don't
think
it
is
overwhelmingly
biodiversity
focus.
I
mean
biodiversity
is
incredibly
important,
but
there
are
definitely
some
initiatives
which
tackle
people,
issues
and
access
and
sort
of
health
and
well-being
issues.
So
I
think
I
think,
there's
a
wide
range
of
objectives
and
you
might
find
biodiversity
weaves
through
quite
a
lot
of
them,
because
we've
tried
to
pull
those
different
strands
together
and
but
yeah.
Definitely,
the
integrated
approach
is
one
that
we,
I
would
say,
we
definitely
used.
A
Thanks
thanks
diana
there's
another
question
here
about
the
impact
of
light
on
wildlife,
and
you
know
as
it's
tricky
as
people
are
nervous.
Why
can't
we
carry
lights,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
understand
that
there
are
different
views
on
these
things
and
actually,
what's
appropriate
in
one
place,
might
not
be
appropriate
in
the
other.
A
I
think
that
there
are
light
issues
and
we
know
that
around
specific
species,
certainly
from
bats,
and
things
like
that
from
my
memory
of
my
environmental
times
and
but
actually
at
the
same
time,
what
we're
also
trying
to
do
is
make
places
inclusive
for
people
and
you
know,
they're.
You
know,
parks
and
open
spaces
where
people
want
to
be
able
to
use
them
or
people
want
to
be
able
to
access
connectivity
during
the
night
or
the
evenings,
and
we've
got
other
issues
to
consider
in
the
round,
and
I
think
that's
why
it's
important.
A
We
get
balanced
views
across
the
board
with
this
stuff
and
because
you
know
what
works
for
somebody
doesn't
necessarily
work
for
somebody
else
in
that's
in
that
in
that
sense.
But
what
I
would
really
encourage
you
I
mean.
I
know
this
comment
around
the
session
should
be
longer.
I'm
sorry,
we
can't
do
longer
sessions
in
some
ways.
You
know
we
would
love
to
do
lots
of
this
stuff.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
stuff
to
unpack
in
this
consultation
in
this
local
plan.
A
I
make
no
apologies
actually
for
the
level
of
detail
and
the
number
of
documents
that
are
involved
in
putting
this
together,
because
it
is
a
comprehensive
land
use
plan
and
a
very
important
piece
of
work.
That's
going
to
show
the
development
of
the
future
of
this
area,
and
there
is
a
huge
amount
of
what
we've
tried
to
do
in
this.
In
essence,
is
demystifying
some
of
this,
and
these
sessions
really
are
supposed
to
pick
up.
Some
of
that
and
and
highlight
is
a
way
you
can.
Actually,
you
know
actually
get
some
more
information.
A
I
think
we've
picked
up
most
questions
anyway.
If
there
are
further
questions
you
know
happy
to
go
through
and
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
just
going
to
get
rid
of
my
screen
over
here
now
and
just
I'm
gonna
spin
relax.
We
don't
need
to
touch
on
that.
What
I'm
gonna
do
is
I'm
gonna
put
up
this
slide.
You
know
if
you.
C
A
Got
any
comments
please
visit
the
website.
There's
ways
you
can
contact
us
on
there
if
you've
got
questions,
but
you
can
get
involved
through
these
the
consultations,
you
can
pick
up
the
survey,
there's
a
really
short
anonymous
survey
which
you've
put
in
place
because
not
all
people
like
to
give
their
names
out-
and
I
know-
there's
been
some
noise
around
that.
But
actually
you
know
it's
important
that
we
try
and
get
as
many
views
as
possible.
So
we
need
to
try
and
open
it
up.
So
there's
a
short
server.
A
You
can
get
involved
in
or
you
can
go
in
into
your
name
and
address
and
details
and
have
some
really
detailed
comments
on
the
policies.
The
proposals,
the
strategy,
all
of
these
sort
of
things
that
we've
talked
about
today
and
you
know,
I'm
always
happy
to
help
the
team
always
have
to
help
signpost
to
people.
If
people
feel
like
they're
things
that
they
can't
access
or
don't
understand.
A
It
is
quite
difficult
in
some
ways
and
to
explain
some
of
this
stuff
because
it's
quite
complicated,
you
know
not
all
of
us-
know
everything
about
any
of
this
stuff.
To
be
honest
with
you,
it's
very
specialist,
so
I'm
just
going
to
pick
up
a
couple
of
questions
before
one
last
question.
I
think
we've
got
on
there
before
we
go
I'm
really
concerned.
The
offsite
bng
option
may
be
a
cop-out
for
landlords
as
developers.
A
I'm
probably
sure
that
a
few
few
of
my
team
might
feel
like
that
as
well
on-site
and
possibly
near-sight
options
that
combine
a
place
for
displaced
wildlife
to
move
into.
You
must
surely
be
priorities
and
john
cornell
probably
best
place
to
answer
it.
D
I
knew
I
wasn't
going
to
get
away
so
easily.
Of
course
it.
This
is
an.
It
is
an
emerging
theme
now
that,
as
off-site
bng
is,
is
being
worked
up
as
a
concept.
There
are
lots
of
people
standing
and
saying:
oh,
that's,
you
know,
that's
not
good
enough.
It's
a
cop
out
it's
about
placing
the
you
know
the
appropriate
habitat
in
the
appropriate
locations
for
the
appropriate
species.
D
So
it's
not
going
to
be
a
sort
of
a
willy-nilly.
You
can't
make
your
bng
work
on
site.
Let's
just
you
know,
drive
up
the
road
10
miles
and
stick
it
in
the
field.
It's
not
going
to
be
like
that
at
all.
We
wouldn't
get
away
with
that,
but,
as
I
said
earlier,
there
are
very
real
challenges
when
you
have
development
going
on
some
sites
to
get
any
kind
of
net
gain
for
biodiversity
within
the
red
line
boundary.
Now.
D
D
Maybe
this
is
something
that
we
can
bake
into
into
the
local
plan.
That's
not
in
the
environment,
act
that
they
prioritize
on
site,
first
yeah
and
then
any
any
that's
left
over
possibly
can
go
towards
a
more
strategic
site
that
will
benefit
habitat
species
elsewhere.
But
it's
a
it's
the
thorny
issue
and
it's
not
something
we're
going
to
duck
out
of
going
to
try
and
get
it
right.
But
you
know
working
working
with
everybody
to
to
move
that
in
the
right
direction.
A
I
think
the
first
point
of
is,
you
know
ensuring
that
we've
got
strong
policy
frameworks
to
be
able
to
enforce
and
lever,
and
I'm
going
to
just
quickly
say
there
is
a
question
here:
around
the
water
treatment
works
plant
location,
I'm
not
ignoring
the
question,
and
you
know
we
know
that
this
is
a
really
sensitive
issue
and
we've
discussed
it
in
pretty
much
all
of
the
sessions.
So
far,
this
is
been
a
question.
That's
cropped
up
and
we're
certainly
not
avoiding
it.
A
A
I
understand
it's
not
the
answer
that
people
want
to
hear,
but
it
is
the
factual
answer
in
this
stage,
and
I
you
know
the
faq
on
the
specifics
around
that
is
on
the
website,
but
we
do
have
a
session
on
on
northeast
cambridge
tomorrow
and
where
we
will
touch
on
that
as
well.
And
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
like
to
thank
everybody
for
coming
I'd
like
to
thank
the
panel
with
the
fantastic
this
morning
and
content.
That's
gone
into
it
and
thank
you
for
being
here.
A
Thank
you
for
all
of
those
who
attended
and
thank
you
for
your
questions
and
also
for
your
input
into
the
men
to
meet
up.
It's
really
good
to
see
some
of
that
stuff
coming
through
from
some
of
you
as
well
and-
and
you
know,
as
I
said,
we've
gone
in
the
last
that
was
out.
This
was
the
last
of
our
theme
sessions
but
they're
all
available
on
the
website,
and
please
go
to
the
great
cambridge
learning.org
local
plan
link
on
your
screens
right
now.
That
will
tell
you
how
best
you
can
get
involved.
A
You
can
participate
in
this
and
there
are
events
as
well
that
we're
running
as
well.
All
those
events
are
listed
up
on
there
and
you
can
either
get
there
through
that
or
scanning
the
code,
and
if
you
want
to
hear
updates
as
well,
a
lot
of
the
stuff
on
social
media
has
been
is
trending
with
hashtag
local
plan,
and
I
wish
you
all
a
fantastic
rest
of
your
week
and
hopefully
we'll
see
you
some
of
you
again
tomorrow.