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A
So
we've
got
about
an
hour
and
the
topics
around
for
you
as
the
public
and
people
who
have
arrived
to
see
us
to
share
some
of
the
information
that
we've
been
working
through
and
developing
over
the
last
few
months
on
the
greater
kings,
local
plan
and
kind
of
give
you
a
bit
of
a
heads
up
on
what
we've
been
doing
and
give
you
a
chance
to
answer
some
questions.
And
it's
not
a
formal
consultation.
It's
just
good
practice.
B
A
Of
those
thoughts
as
they
were
published
for
our
committee
groups
as
well
and
the
actual
formal
consultation
stage
for
those
of
you
interested
will
be
back
in
the
summer
2021,
which
seems
a
long
way
away
from
now,
but
in
our
team
I
think
that's
coming
out
pretty
soon.
So
it's
an
hour
long,
the
web
in
our
tonight
is
being
recorded.
A
A
We
won't
read
out
your
names
when
we
do
the
q
a
so
there's
one
slide
presentation
which
is
about
15
minutes
long,
followed
by
a
15
minute,
q,
a
and
then
another
slide
presentation
which
is
about
10
minutes,
followed
by
another
10
minute,
q.
A
so
that's
the
format
I'm
going
to
introduce
our
presenters
stroke.
Panelists.
Today,
we've
got
a
few
of
the
team
here.
Some
of
our
experts
on
some
of
the
work
that's
been
going
on
and
I'll.
Let
them
introduce
themselves
and
then
we'll
crack
on
with
the
session.
C
A
C
Thanks
everybody,
so
we're
just
going
to
take
you
through
a
little
bit
of
background.
First
of
all
and
just
talk
about
the
stage
we're
at
so
sorry,
portuguese.
That
went
a
bit
faster
than
intended
just
to
clarify
where
we
are
at
the
local
plan.
Preparation
as
paul
outlined,
we're
in
between
the
first
conversation,
consultation
that
happened
earlier
this
year
and
the
preferred
options,
public
consultation,
which
will
be
around
the
middle
autumn
of
next
year.
So
at
this
point
in
time,
we've
just
published
some
initial
evidence.
C
Just
to
recap
that
we
are
structuring
the
the
local
plan
around
some
of
the
big
themes
that
we
consulted
on
in
the
function
and
in
the
first
conversation,
and
there
was
a
really
strong
support
in
the
consultation
responses
for
those
big
themes
in
terms
of
a
way
of
structuring
and
understanding.
What's
important
about
the
area
going
forward.
C
And
what
was
really
interesting
was
that
climate
change
was
definitely
the
highest
priority
with
wellbeing
and
social
inclusion
as
a
second,
and
I
think
that
really
helps
us
frame.
What
we're
trying
to
do
with
the
plan,
which
is
balance.
How
do
we
meet
the
needs
of
our
communities
in
terms
of
jobs,
homes,
affordable
homes
and
other
things
to
do
with
well-being
alongside
the
climate
change
emergency
that
both
councils
have
declared
and
our
need
to
get
to
net
zero
carbon?
C
It's
very
important
that
this,
the
local
plan
that
we
come
up
with
is
is
what
is
known
in
the
technical
terminology
as
sound.
That
basically
means
that
it
passes
the
tests
that
are
set
for
us
by
the
national
planning
framework
that
we
are
required
to
work
within
it.
Those
four
points
are
here
on
the
slide,
which
are
to
be
positively
prepared,
which
means
that
we
need
to
have
objectively
assess
the
need
for
development
in
our
area
and
meet
that
as
a
minimum.
C
It
needs
to
be
justified,
so
we
need
to
have
looked
at
reasonable
alternatives.
We
can't
just
go
to
one
solution
without
having
looked
at
what
the
alternatives
are,
and
it
needs
to
be
effective,
which
means
that
we
can
actually
achieve
it
in
practice
and,
of
course
it
has
to
be
consistent
with
national
policy.
C
So
we've
commissioned
a
range
of
evidence-based
consultants
to
work
with
us,
and
we
have
also
calculated
the
minimum
requirement.
According
to
the
government's
standard
method,
which
is
essentially
a
formula
for
how
much
housing
the
how
the
area
may
be
considered
to
need,
as
a
minimum,
we've
also
looked
at
future
economic
growth
and
what
that
might
look
like
if
it
was
faster,
and
those
are
some
figures
that
caroline
will
go
through
in
a
minute
and
then
what
housing
levels
might
be
needed
to
support
that.
C
We
looked
at
a
range
of
broad
locations
for
new
development
and
those
are
very
deliberately
diverse,
so
this
is
not
about
saying
that
any
one
of
those
locations
is
the
strategy
that
the
eventual
plan
might
have
it's
about
testing.
What
are
the
implications
of
different
sorts
of
approaches
for
locating
development,
and
what
this
stage
is
really
about
is
then
testing
that,
against
some
of
the
emerging
evidence,
so
asking
those
specialists
to
tell
us
well
in
regard
to
net
zero,
carbon
or
water
or
any
of
these
other
matters?
C
C
So
we've
published
this
all
on
our
website
and
we'll
show
the
website
details
at
the
end
of
this
for
your
records,
and
it
really
is
about
being
transparent
with
us.
We
want
to
help
everybody
test
this
and
we
are,
we
have
been
holding
and
are
continuing
to
hold
a
series
of
workshops
for
representatives
from
different
stakeholder
groups
to
get
some
more
detailed
input
from
them.
I'm
now
going
to
hand
over
to
caroline
who
will
start
talking
about
the
growth
level
options
that
we've
been
looking
at.
E
E
In
fact,
over
the
last
10
years
we've
delivered,
it
looks
from
data
to
be
almost
the
a
significant
proportion
of
the
growth
that
we
anticipated
coming
over
20
years
in
our
current
adopted
plans,
and
the
evidence
is
suggesting
that
there
will
be
continued
strong
growth
in
those
key
sectors.
So
we
wanted
to
understand
that
if
there
is
potential
for
future
jobs
growth
in
the
area,
what
would
be
the
number
of
homes
that
would
need
to
sit
alongside
that
to
make
sure
that
we
are
providing
for
a
sustainable
form
of
development
in
this
area?.
E
On
the
job
side,
we
already
have
quite
a
significant
supply
of
employment
land
that
goes
some
way
towards
meeting
even
some
of
the
higher
jobs
forecasts
here
and
then
on
the
housing
side,
we
have
already
quite
a
significant
supply
of
homes
within
our
current
plans
hannah.
Could
you
go
to
the
next
slide?
E
It's
also
important
that
our
plan
is
capable
of
adapting
to
rapid
change
and
to
do
that.
We've
included
a
10
buffer
on
those
numbers
that
you
saw
on
the
previous
screen.
So
when
you
look
at
that
together,
that
suggests
that,
in
terms
of
additional
housing
that
needs
to
be
allocated
in
the
new
plan
that
ranges
from
about
4
000
for
the
minimum,
around
10
000
for
the
medium
and
around
26
000
for
the
maximum,
so
quite
a
range
there
in
the
amount
of
homes
that
we
need
to
find.
E
So
if
all
local
authorities
across
the
country
deliver
against
this
government
standard
method,
cat
way
of
calculating
homes,
then
it
it
assumes
pretty
much
that
the
same
sort
of
pattern
of
movements
between
where
people
live
and
where
they
work
would
just
continue
into
the
future
and
wouldn't
have
potential
consequences
for
for
further
growth.
Beyond
that.
E
D
So
local
plans
are
supported
by
an
awful
lot
of
evidence
behind
the
reasoning
behind
the
policies
and
helping
develop
really
what
the
plan
needs
to
address
and
how
it
might
go
about
addressing
it.
And
at
this
stage,
we've
published
some
of
the
initial
findings
of
the
evidence
that
we've
done
so
far,
particularly
looking
at
the
evidence
relating
to
the
impact
of
some
of
the
the
growth
numbers
choices
that
caroline's
just
run
through
and
also
some
of
the
spatial
choices
which
I
come
on
to
talk
about
later.
D
D
There's
lots
of
charts
in
diagrams
in
the
study
which
you
can
see
on
our
website,
but
I'll
come
on
to
later,
showing
some
of
the
spatial
choices
we've
tested
and
that
chart
really
shows
some
of
the
differences
you
get
between
those
different
spatial
choices.
When
you
look
at
how
much
carbon
per
home
they
might
generate-
and
the
next
chart
shows
how
you
might
compare
the
amount
of
carbon
overall
so
particularly
interesting
on
the
left
hand
side
of
that
chart,
it
shows
the
amount
of
carbon
being
generated
from
our
well
existing
developments.
D
The
existing
districts
as
they
are
now
moving
across
to
the
right.
It
shows
us
much
smaller
bar
chart,
showing
the
amount
of
carbon
generated
by
the
growth
oriented
in
our
pipelines
and
then
and
the
more
colorful
bit
towards
the
right.
It
started
to
compare
the
growth
choices.
We've
been
testing,
those
amounts
of
growth
looking
minimum
medium
maximum
and
business
is
usually
it's
referring
to
building
dwellings
in
the
way
we
do
now
and
the
zero
carbon
would
be
due.
D
D
D
The
water
issues
are
more
challenging,
but
can
plausibly
be
addressed,
housing
delivery
can
be
plausibly
addressed
and
it
does
respond
more
to
those
economic
needs
along
that
sort
of
central
medium
scenario
and
then
for
the
maximum.
As
I
mentioned
earlier
for
water,
it
looks
more
challenging
for
housing
delivery,
more
challenging
as
well,
and
I
think
now
we're
moving
on
to
some
q
a.
A
A
So
I'm
going
to
pick
up
the
first
question:
should
any
plans
be
halted
and
reviewed,
considering
the
changes
to
our
economy,
ways
of
working
where
we
now
work
in
the
last
nine
months?
So
I
think,
as
caroline
I'll
touch
on
this
quickly
and
others
can
come
in
if
they
wish
to.
I
think,
as
caroline
touched
on
we're
very
acutely
aware
of
the
real
uncertainty
both
economically,
but
also
from
a
regulatory
point
of
view.
A
When
you
know,
we
know
that
there
are
planning
reform,
changes
coming
and
changes
that
may
well
affect
how
we
prepare
a
local
plan
and
the
message
from
government
at
the
moment
a
is
that
we
should
continue
plan
making.
I
suppose
the
issue
is
as
well
that
we
should
have
a
current
and
up-to-date
plan
in
place.
Otherwise
we
risk
speculative
development
from
developers
and
we
want
to
have
control
over
how
the
area
looks.
A
So
we
should
be
continuing
to
you
know,
make
plans
the
point
of
having
a
local
plan
is
also
that
we
have
a
five-year
review
every
every
five
years.
The
plan
is
reviewed,
so
you
know
some
of
this
evidence
really
and
some
of
the
work
the
work
around
the
economic
piece
you
know,
won't
be
forthcoming.
We
won't
see
trends.
You
know
for
far
far
longer
than
9
months,
12
months,
18
months,
because
they
do
take
some
time
for
us
to
be
able
to.
You
know,
understand
them.
A
So
I
suppose
it's
a
difficult
one,
but
we
need
to
still
collect
the
evidence
and
still
continue
with
our
plan,
making
it
this
present
moment
in
time.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
wants
to
add
into
that
from
the
panel
okay,
so
we'll
move
on
quickly
in
the
2018
spatial
strategy,
s6,
you
were
clear
that
housing
would
come
from
edge
of
cambridge
in
the
new
settlements,
rural
and
minor
rural
centres.
You
protected
the
smaller
villages.
We
are
a
group
village
s10.
Are
you
changing
the
village
classifications?
E
Thanks
paul,
I
think
at
this
stage
it's
probably
a
little
early
to
say
quite
whether
we'll
be
carrying
forward
the
previous
hierarchy
or
or
looking
to
any
refinement
of
it
at
all.
We
did
some
consultation
on
on
that
through
the
first
conversation
and
as
we
look
through
the
responses
we've
received,
we'll
be
considering
that
further.
E
But
I
suppose
what
I
would
say
is
that,
with
the
emphasis
on
on
climate
change
and
sustainable
development,
we're
very
we're
still
very
mindful
of
locations
that
can
you
know,
respect
those
key
concerns,
while
still
recognizing
the
social
side
of
sustainable
development
too,
and
we're
keen
to
understand
from
villages
what
they
think
their
future
needs
are.
As
part
of
our
plan
making
process.
D
So
there
are
two
pretty
significant
areas
on
the
edge
of
cambridge,
which
don't
form
part
of
the
green
belt,
which
we've
explored
through
the
spatial
options
which
I'll
come
on
to
a
minute.
The
first
is
northeast
cambridge
and
you
may
have
seen
we
did
some
consultation
slightly
earlier
in
the
year
on
how
that
area
might
be
planned.
For
the
second
is
the
cambridge
airport
site,
which
was
actually
removed
from
the
green
belt
about
10
years
ago.
I
could
be
wrong
and
safeguarded
for
developments.
D
A
E
Yes,
I
mean
it's
interesting,
isn't
it
so
there's
very
little
further
large
brownfield
land
left
in
in
greater
cambridge
that
hasn't
already
been
identified
for
development,
so
john
mentioned
northeast
cambridge.
That
is
one
of
the
key
last
undeveloped
brownfield
sites,
and
that
is
something
that
has
been
looked
at
in
in
previous
plans
and
the
councils
are
currently
preparing
an
area
action
plan
for
that
area.
A
Thank
you,
caroline
and
I'm
going
to
answer
this
one
as
well
and
there's
a
couple
of
questions
or
observations
around
the
economic
issues
which
are
actually
quite
helpful
to
to
see
those,
and
I
think,
as
I
said
before,
I
think
that
understanding
that
we
we
know
that
we're
in
a
very
uncertain
time
economically
and
that
our
initial
evidence
base,
in
fact
the
work
that
you
know.
It
picks
up
that
economic
land
review.
If
that,
if
you've
seen
the
document
library,
you
know
that
was
commissioned
and
started
prior
to
covid
and
we
have
just
you
know.
A
We
are
aware
of
that
and
that's
caveated
within
it,
and
we
are
aware
that
we
will
need
to
do
some
further
economic
work,
but
what
it
will
pick
up
on
this
question
here.
So,
regarding
the
questions
asked,
have
you
factored
into
this
evidence?
What
is
happening
to
the
city
center
as
this
impacts,
the
local
plan
and
transport
to
so?
The
current
evidence
bases
just
haven't
considered
that
at
this
second
time,
because
they
are
prior
to
that
so,
and
we
are
aware-
and
I
have
you
know,
communicated
that
this
is
you
know
the
earliest
stage.
A
A
I
don't
know
if
john
you
would
like
to
come
in
on
any
of
them
and
particularly
relevant
to
you
know,
fine,
let's
move
on.
Let's
keep
going
with
the
green
belt,
we
have
a
very
limited
amount
of
green
belts
separating
us
from
cambridge,
I'm
very
much
in
favor
of
limiting
development
in
greenbelt
in
a
group
village,
more
efficiencies
in
new
sustainable
settlements,
our
village
plan
2018
only
five
percent
of
residents
support
development
in
our
green
belt.
Is
that
acknowledged?
C
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
it's
a
really
interesting
one
actually,
because
in
the
consultation
responses
from
the
first
conversation,
we've
had
a
really
really
wide
range
of
views
on
this,
and
that's
something
we're
very
mindful
of
moving
forward.
Obviously
the
greenback
you
know
is
seen
as
very
very
important,
but
we've
also
heard
a
range
of
views
about
where
that
might
be
balanced,
with
some
of
the
climate
change
considerations,
for
example.
D
These
options
will
be
quite
familiar
if
you
read
our
first
conversation,
consultation
back
in
february.
It
really
shows
at
that
time
what
we
thought.
The
broad
spatial
choices
were
available
to
the
new
plan.
Before
we
moved
on
to
the
next
stage,
though,
we
wanted
to
check
whether
there
were
other
ones.
We
should
be
considering
this
very
broad
level,
an
early
stage
and,
as
you
can
see,
having
looked
at
over
97
ideas,
29
was
shortlisted.
We
actually
got
down
to
two
real
broad
spatial
choices.
D
Having
come
up
with
those
options
effectively,
we
allocated
the
numbers
of
homes.
We
were
testing,
as
we
talked
about
earlier.
To
make
sure
we
had
24
spatial
strategy
options
with
the
same
number
in
them,
so
three
three
different
growth
levels
of
medium
maximum
minimum
and
then
the
eight
with
a
same
growth
in
each
each
of
those
sets
to
make
sure
we
were
testing
the
same
and
they
were
very
focused
on
to
those
spatial
choices.
D
In
some
cases
we
had
to
then
bring
in
other
spatial
areas
to
make
up
the
numbers
now
I'll
explain
that
a
bit
further
they're,
quite
clear
choice.
At
this
point
you
might
think
they're
very
clear
and
and
very
focused
on
a
particular
choice
that
was
really
deliberate,
because
we
really
want
to
be
able
to
identify
the
pros
and
cons.
The
plan
at
the
end
could
take
elements
for
a
number
of
them,
but
this
is
really
a
testing
phase
so
running
through
these
spatial
choices
very
quickly.
D
For
example,
the
focused
options
in
urban
areas
means
you
get
good
access
to
transport
and
so
on,
but
I
have
some
challenges
about
building
in
existing
areas
and
that
you
would
have
to
overcome
and
then,
as
we
go
through
towards
the
medium
growth.
Clearly,
you
need
to
put
additional
growth
in
your
very
focused
option
and
bring
in
further
sites
such
as
the
airport
site
and
in
the
maximum.
D
The
two
options
really
focused
on
here
are
northeast
cambridge
and
cambridge
airport,
so
it'll
be
about
delivering
homes
in
that
area
which
again
comes
with
pros
and
cons
in
the
options
and
then
for
the
medium
we'd
need
to
bring
in
some
additional
growth.
So
in
this
case
to
to
make
the
testing
work,
we
brought
in
some
additional
growth
of
new
settlements
and
in
the
maximum.
D
If
you
can
manage
to
do
that,
and
further
growth
and
new
settlements
again
and
then
the
new
settlements
option
here
very
similar
new
settlements
on
transport
corridors
would
be
the
focus
of
this
option
and
then
going
through
the
medium.
You
would
need
to
have
further
new
settlements
and
at
the
maximum
it
would
need
to
be
delivering
those
faster
and
again
new
settlements,
bring
some
benefits
in
terms
having
that
clean
slate
to
deliver
new
infrastructure
in
a
very
focused
manner.
But
equally
that
can
be
challenging,
because
you
can't
rely
on
existing
infrastructure.
D
You
need
you
need
that
to
support
their
early
growth.
So
it's
real
pros
and
cons
there,
and
then
we
had
an
option
looking
at
villages,
this
one's
a
bit
was
it
says
on
the
tin,
because
you
can
see
from
this
option.
We
decided
to
test
what
would
happen
if
you
distributed
growth
across
the
existing
villages
in
the
area,
so
you
can
see
a
very
scattered
pattern
there
on
that
map.
D
You
might
need
to
bring
in
additional
sites
additional
locations
to
make
up
the
numbers
to
make
that
a
practical
option
for
testing
at
this
stage
and
on
the
western
corridor
very
similar
approach,
where
you
might
have
further
growth,
based
on
new
settlement
and
growth
at
the
villages
on
that
transport
corridor,
and
then
to
do
that.
Testing
process,
increasing
the
growth
through
the
medium
and
then
towards
the
maximum,
have
the
conditional
effects.
D
So,
as
you'll
have
seen,
they
are
quite
stark
and
they
really
do
focus
growth
to
try
and
enable
us
to
really
pour
over
those
pros
and
cons
and
issues
and
opportunities
to
inform
our
decision
making.
As
we
start
to
develop
that
preferred
approach
to
the
plan
and
all
the
evidence-based
pieces
that
we've
published
alongside
that,
really
then
start
to
probe
what
those
pros
and
cons
are,
and
you
can
find
all
the
evidence
on
our
website.
A
F
Thank
you
paul
good
evening.
Everybody,
sorry,
I
couldn't
join
you
at
the
at
the
beginning.
I've
noticed
the
questions
really
interesting
questions
and
we
hope
the
answers
are
helpful
to
you
clearly
at
the
stage
of
the
plan
that
we're
at
at
the
moment
that
some
of
these
matters
are
work
in
progress
rather
than
necessarily
definitive
but
really
interesting
line
of
questions
so
far,
and
I'm
sure
the
team
I'm
anxious
to
answer
further
so
I'll
be
quiet.
A
Thank
you
very
much
stephen.
So,
let's
start
going
through
some
questions
then,
and
is
it
worth
having
faster
review
cycles
in
our
particular
dramatic
changes
anticipated
in
over
the
next
few
years,
post
brexit,
post
covid?
So
I'm
going
to
give
this
one
to
caroline
and
others
can
come
in
on
it.
If
we
want
to
have
a
bit
of
a
discussion
around
it
too,.
E
You
know
changes
that
happen
during
this
plan
making
process,
and
it's
always
possible
that
when
you
monitor
you
monitor
a
plan
once
you've
adopted
it,
and
if
there
are
reasons
to
make
changes,
you
can
make
partial
changes
to
plans
as
well
as
full-blown
comprehensive
reviews.
So
that's
very
much
something
that
we
can
and
and
will
keep
under
review
as
we
move
forward.
A
F
Thanks
paul
and
just
very
briefly,
well,
I
think
the
work
that
john
has
been
leading
on
looking
at
net
zero
carbon
actually
means
that
I'm
sure
that
eco
homes,
passive
house
type
developments
will
be
an
important
part
of
the
spatial
strategy
heading
towards
the
plan
through
the
planned
period.
But
john,
I
don't
know
whether
you
want
to
comment
on
any
further
on
the
work
that
we've
done
around
net
zero
carbon
and
its
implications.
But
I
encourage
everyone
on
the
call
to
to
look
at
it.
D
Yeah
absolute
stress
that
study
is
really
only
an
initial
phase
of
that
work
and
they
are
very
much
looking
at
what
standards
we
might
need
to
include
and
we'll
also
need
to
feed
that,
through
all
the
evidence,
evidence
basis.
So
what
implications
to
add
for
the
the
viability
of
science,
for
example?
So
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
that.
We're
still
bringing
forward
in
those
studies.
A
Thanks
both
and
I'm
going
to
pick
one
up
on
a
pretty
live
subject
nationally
at
the
moment,
so
also
government
algorithm
is
going
to
be
adjusted
to
avoid
favoritism
of
the
southern
and
eastern
regions,
and
we've
had
a
little
bit
of
thought
around
this.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
stuart
morris
to
pick
this
one
up,
stuart.
B
Thanks
paul,
obviously,
there's
been
a
lot
of
news
about
algorithms
generally
this
year
and
last,
because
it's
possibly
worth
noting
that
this
algorithm
is
is
really
a
fairly
simple
calculation
for
determining
our
minimum
housing
need,
which
takes
into
account
past
population
growth
and
adjust
for
affordability,
challenges
and
the
favoritism.
That's
come
out
in
the
news
about
south
and
south
east.
To
my
understanding
reflects
those
affordability
challenges
that
you
see
in
this
area
and
in
the
southeast.
B
There
was
this
consultation
on
a
revised
version
that
sought
to
place
greater
weight
on
the
change
in
affordability
over
the
last
10
years,
and
for
us
that
suggested
it
might
lower
the
figure.
But
now
it
has
been
clearly
significant,
negative
responses
to
that
suggestion.
We
don't
know
where
that's
going
to
go
right
now,.
A
D
It
also
picks
up
some
issues
like
there
might
be
certain
types,
even
with
the
high-tech
industries
that
aren't
being
have
sufficient
space
for
like
like
wet
labs,
which
are
a
particular
type
of
lab.
They
use
in
life
sciences.
So
there
is
still
need
for
certain
types
of
employment,
but
a
good
supply
out
there,
and
if
you
want
to
look
at
the
detail,
please
go
to
this
study.
A
Yeah-
and
we
will
highlight
you
to
this
website
as
well
afterwards,
where
the
studies
are
all
there,
they
are
in
one
single
document
library.
They
should
be
reasonably
easy
to
find,
but
we
can
always
help
with
that.
I'm
going
to
move
to
a
transport
question
now
and
when
can
we
expect
a
study
into
the
impact
of
these
options
on
traffic
densities
in
cambridge?
At
times
we
are
close
to
gridlock
now
in
some
areas,
and
pollution
exceeds
permissible
levels
at
some.
E
Times,
yeah
thanks
paul
you're
breaking
up
a
bit,
but
yes,
I'm
happy
to
take
that
one.
We
we've
started
some
initial
work
on
transport,
modeling
of
the
different
spatial
options
that
we
we've
tested.
That's
to
understand,
both
the
overall
traffic
implications
and
and
also
how
different
spatial
options
perform
in
terms
of
how
attractive
they
are
to
get
people
out
of
their
cars.
Actually,
because
a
lot
of
what
we
you
know,
we
we
all
want
to
see
moving
forwards
is
that
we
we
use
more
sustainable
forms
of
travel.
A
So
the
can
we
confirm
the
zero
carbon
is
zero
from
the
construction
as
well
as
la
as
a
lifetime
of
the
property,
and
I
think
that
it
picks
up
the
zero
carbon
stuff
is
actually
a
really
kind
of
innovative
piece
really
because
it's
quite
new
in
terms
of
what
it's
actually
trying
to
achieve,
and
it
does
pick
up
the
embodied
carbon
and
profiles
a
lot
of
those
with
some
of
them
modeling
in
it.
I
would
encourage
it.
A
It's
actually
quite
an
easy
report
to
read:
it's
got
some
technical
stuff
in
there,
but
it's
actually
pretty
clear
and
the
summary
has
some
really
good
discussion
points
in
it.
So,
yes,
the
answer
to
that
and
I'm
going
to
move
to
the
brownfield
site
question.
There
is
a
large
brownfield
site,
the
service
car
parks
used
for
new
market
road
retail
parks.
These
could
house
2
000
people
if
developed
car
parking
could
still
be
provided
as
basement
or
ground
floor
parking
flats.
Above
a
similar
development
was
carried
out
in
gateshead
2016.
A
F
Thanks
paul,
yes,
absolutely.
Obviously
the
site
in
question
was
was
previously
developed,
land
and
I'm
aware,
has
some
ground
condition,
issues
with
it,
but
but
but
certainly
the
work
that
we'll
be
doing
we'll
be
thinking
quite
hard
about
sites
like
this,
particularly
in
the
context
of
other
questions
that
people
have
asked
about
the
future
of
retailing
and
and
so
on,
and
and
actually
just
to
broaden
a
number
of
these
bracket.
F
A
number
of
these
questions
together,
one
of
the
things
that
I
hope
people
understand
as
they
look
through
the
evidence
is
how
a
number
of
these
issues
are
all
interrelated
and
that
we
are
looking
at
them
together.
So,
for
example,
the
point
around
employment
land
and
where
it
is,
and
the
concerns
about
commuting
and
traveling
to
work
alongside
things
like
biodiversity
and
the
and
the
implications
for
carbon
are
all
are
not
separate
pieces
of
work,
but
certainly
they're
informing
some
of
the
ways
in
which,
hopefully,
you
can
see.
F
We've
we're
starting
to
assess
the
spatial
options
so
absolutely
in
terms
of
new
market
road.
Obviously
the
landowners
haven't,
I
don't
think,
submitted
those
sites
for
the
call
for
size,
but
that
doesn't
stop
the
planning
authority
from
exploring
what
the
future
might
mean
for
sites
like
that,
as
we
go
forward.
Looking
for
sustainable
ways
to
grow
a
greater
cambridge.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
stephen
okay.
Next
one,
it
should
be
noted,
groves
as
an
example
bought
greenbelt
farmland
which
is
now
being
proposed
for
building
upon
chumpington,
even
when
homes
bill
and
the
issues
in
this
area
remain
unresolved.
More
of
a
comment
really,
but
I
think
it's
worth
touching
on.
Do
you
want
to
pick
that
one
up?
Caroline
sorry,
my
wi-fi
is
dropping
out.
I
do
apologize.
E
Well,
I
think
it's
it's
interesting,
isn't
it
so?
There
are
an
awful
lot
of
landowners
and
developer
interests
in
in
this
part
of
the
world.
We
publish
the
results
of
our
call
for
sites
in
september,
and
we've
had
well
over
600
sites
already
submitted
to
us,
so
there's
a
and
then
they
range
from
very
large
sites
on
the
edge
of
cambridge
to
new
settlements,
to
to
village
sites,
and
we
will
be
looking
at
at
all
of
those
at
this
stage.
E
They
don't
have
any
status,
and
you
know
we
will
go
through
the
process
of
assessing
them
and
identifying
the
most
appropriate
sites
moving
forward.
But
I
suppose
it
is
worth
saying
that
you
know
we
have
to
be
clear
that
the
sites
that
we
put
into
our
plan
are
capable
of
being
delivered
and
and
having
willing
and
able
promoters
is,
is
not
a
bad
thing.
As
a
you
know.
A
A
Sql
prioritized
transport
schemes
through
sql
just
to
let
you
all
know
some
of
the
consultants
who
helped
prepare
the
gl
home
report
on
our
economic
modeling
and
they
worked
on
cambridge
ahead.
Modelling
on
the
government
city
deal
funding
for
these
schemes,
along
with
gl
hearn,
who
are
a
real
estate
consultancy.
A
F
I'm
happy
to
to
address
it.
There's
two
elements
to
the
questions.
I
suppose
the
first
is
we
have.
We
have
worked
with
a
set
of
assumptions
from
the
transport
strategy
that
was
associated
with
the
last
local
plan
in
starting
in
both
looking
at
the
performance
of
existing
spatial
options,
but
also
in
thinking
around
what
that
strategy,
which,
of
course,
will
continue
through
to
2030
and
beyond
in
terms
of
its
current
site
allocations
means
for
infrastructure
requirements.
F
There
is
further
work,
that's
going
to
be
undertaken
on
transport
for
this
plan,
including
starting
to
try
and
think
about
some
of
the
potential
implications
from
shifts
in
behavior
and
movement,
as
we've
said
earlier.
I
think,
if
there's
a
concern
about
the
being
expressed
in
the
question
about
the
provenance
of
the
work,
the
reassurance
in
many
respects,
regardless
of
who
the
consultancy
is
or
who
it
is,
who
is
preparing
the
work,
is
that
we
have
a.
F
We
have
a
a
competent
and
extensive
team
in
greater
cambridge
working
on
these
issues,
who
are
working
for
you
effectively,
they're
all
part
of
the
local
planning
authority
and,
of
course,
all
decisions
of
member
of
the
service.
On
the
local
plan
will
be
informed
by
the
members:
is
it
do
I
apologize
for
using
experts
in
real
estate
to
give
us
advice
around
real
estate
issues?
No,
we
need
people
who
are
in
tune
with
and
understand
the
market
because
of
the
tests
around
delivery.
F
But
if
we're
to
develop
a
plan
that
is
deliverable
which
is
important
as
we
look
ahead,
then
we
need
to
use
experts,
and
that
involves
working
with
the
property
industry
with
specialists
and
those
who
have
experience
and
track
record
and
delivery.
But
the
decisions
are
made
by
your
officers
working
with
members
and
ultimately
are
signed
off
by
the
council
through
full
council
elections.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
stephen
and
just
to
say
I
think
it's
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
a
little
bit
before.
I
think
the
term
consultants
often
gets
lost
in
translation,
because
essentially
the
work
that
we
are
doing
are
studies
their
studies
based
their
research
based
their
empirical
pieces
of
research
and
actually
you
know,
they're
working
through
consultancy
firms,
but
it's
maybe
something
we
can
do
and
explain
on
at
some
point.
I
think
we
have
talked
about
it
to
give
some
clarity
there,
and
so
how
do
these
fit
in?
E
Thanks
paul:
well,
we
have,
as
part
of
our
plan,
preparation
process,
it's
important
that
we
we
engage
with
a
wide
range
of
interests
and
that
very
much
includes
the
combined
authority
under
our
duty
to
cooperate.
So
we
engage
with
our
neighbours.
We
engage
with
the
combined
authority,
county
council
and
and
a
range
of
others.
E
A
Thanks
very
much
caroline,
I'm
being
dude
that
we've
got
a
few
only
a
few
minutes
left
and
I
don't
see
any
reason
why
we
can't
get
these
clinic
questions
finished
on
here.
I'm
gonna
go
with
this
one
on
a
scale
of
one
to
ten.
How
confident
are
you
that
any
development
will
not
further
degrade
or
damage
or
already
vulnerable
local
talk
streams
and
there's
many
people
who
probably
want
to
answer
this
question
I'll,
say
myself?
I
think
that
we
try
not
to
work
on
the
basis
of
being
confident.
A
We
are
working
from
the
basis
of
evidence,
and
actually
that
is
the
main
point
because,
as
we've
all
said
in
this
process
before
this
is
an
independently
examined
process
at
the
end
and
is
is
examined
by
the
secretary
of
state
as
we
get
through
to
it.
So
we
have
to
have
done
everything
and
dotted
all
the
eyes
and
crossed
all
the
tees,
and
then
you
got
that
way
around.
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
wants
to
say
anything
on
that
particular
item.
Maybe
john.
D
So
we
link
to
another
question:
that's
actually
coming
later
on,
I
think.
Well
it
the
study,
we've
published,
really
is
only
an
interim
stage.
The
full
water
cycle
strategy
will
now
be
in
production
and
we
will
be
looking
to
see
what
that
can
do
to
provide
the
certainty
about
how
water
supplies
will
be
addressed
going
forward.
I
guess
the
other
issue
is
clearly.
D
We
are
working
with
other
stakeholders
in
water,
so,
for
example,
water
resistance,
water
resources,
east,
who
are
also
producing
a
a
plan
for
how
they
consider
water
resources
can
be
addressed
across
the
the
region.
They're
going
to
be
consulting
on
a
draft
plan
next
year,
so
we'll
very
much
be
wanting
to
work
with
them.
So
they're
we're
working
that
our
growth
levels,
we're
planning
for
aligned
with
the
plans
they're
doing
to
look
at
how
water
can
be
delivered
sustainably.
A
Thanks
very
much
john
okay
moving
into
this
one,
it's
an
interesting
one
when
looking
at
other
countries.
Also
recent
discussion
with
emissions,
air
quality
would
cambridge
consider
the
move
to
a
swiss
style,
non-ice
cities
with
all
the
last
three
miles
delivered
by
non-emitting
vehicles,
bikes
and
increasing
process
of
metro
tram,
bus
for
public
movement.
I'm
sure
that
quite
a
few
people
would
like
to
ask
I'm
going
to
give
it
to
you
hannah
first,
I'm
sure
you're
interested
in
this
one
and
others
can
get
involved
as
well.
C
Yeah,
I
mean,
I
think,
it's
a
really
interesting
one,
and
we've
explored
a
lot
of
this
actually
as
part
of
the
northeast
cambridge
area
action
plan,
consultation
recently,
where
we
have
looked
at
essentially
that
last
mile
delivery
question
and
quite
a
bit
of
detail.
Cambridge
does
lead
on
a
lot
of
this,
because
we
already
have
cargo
bike
deliveries
and
so
forth
happening
in
the
city,
which
is
really
fantastic.
C
Here
I
think
it's
a
really
interesting
one,
because
it
comes
to
that
point
about
carbon
emissions
and
transport.
Fundamentally,
that's
really
fine
for
locations
that
are
really
compact
and
really
well
located
in
terms
of
accessibility.
Clearly,
in
more
fringe
rural
locations,
that
can
be
really
challenging.
One
of
the
things
we're
aware
of
is
the
transport
emissions
associated
with
development
and
not
just
people
going
to
work.
There
are
also
people
going
to
the
shops,
picking
up
their
deliveries,
going
to
school,
going
to
the
doctors,
doing
all
the
other
things
in
daily
life.
A
Thanks
hannah
and
considering
the
transport
plans,
are
you
taking
account
of
mayor's
proposals
for
the
northern
right
route
as
opposed
to
the
current
gcp
route?
Still
unsettled?
Would
the
northern
corridor
north
of
the
a428
be
a
better
place
to
pick
up
the
larger
developments
and
have
been
offered
west
of
cambridge,
and,
if
stephen,
you
want
to
pick
up
on
that
or
caroline.
F
Thanks
thanks
paul,
obviously
at
this
moment
in
time
in
terms
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
around
spatial
options,
the
transport
modeling
is
will
be
subject
to
sensitivity,
testing
looking
at
the
implications
of
the
cam,
but
it
isn't
at
this
stage
at
a
fine
grain
level
where
it
relates
to
specific
alignments.
So
it's
not
going
to
be.
I
don't
think
it's
a
point
of
detail
at
this
moment
in
time
for
this
part
of
the
plan
that
making
making
process.
A
C
Well,
you're,
looking
paul,
I'm
just
going
to
show
the
next
step
slide
so
that
people
are
aware
of
what
happens
after
this
point
in
time.
So,
just
as
we've
touched
on
this,
we've
published
all
of
this
evidence.
It's
all
on
the
website
address
I'll,
show
you
in
a
minute,
but
we
also
have
a
lot
more
evidence
coming.
So
by
no
means
is
this.
It.
A
lot
of
these
has
been
mentioned,
are
interim
studies
so,
for
instance,
the
water
cycle
study.
C
That
is
a
very
large
and
ongoing
and
complex
study,
which
is
only
part
way
through
at
the
moment,
and
some
of
these
other
studies
we
haven't
published
anything
really
on
yet
so
you
can
look
out
for
them
next
year
when
we
go
into
and
towards
the
preferred
options.
Consultation
as
just
a
reminder
of
that
time,
scales
we're
looking
at
that
which
will
be
a
very
full
public
consultation
and
we
hope
we'll
be
able
to
do
face-to-face
events
again
at
some
point
next
year
as
part
of
that.
C
So
those
are
the
processes.
The
preferred
option
is
actually
an
extra
stage
to
the
local
plan
that
we
have
put
in
we're
not
required
to
do
that
stage
by
the
national
regulations,
but
we
reviewed
earlier
this
year
and
we
felt
that
at
such
a
large
and
complex
plan,
it
was
important
that
we
did
add
that
extra
stage
of
consultation
we'll
review
those
findings
we'll
do
more
engagement
as
part
of
that,
and
then
we
will
have
the
draft
local
plan.
C
So
there'll
be
another
full
opportunity
for
everybody
to
comment
on
the
plan
in
terms
of
consultation
before
we
then
finalize
it
for
the
proposed
submission
plan,
which
again
also
has
more
public
consultations.
There
are
many
many
stages
where
everybody
can
get
involved
share
their
views
and
we
will
take
all
of
those
comments
on
board
and,
most
importantly,
each
of
those
comes
with
a
consultation
statement
which
actually
will
tell
you
how
we've
taken
those
comments
on
board
and
how
they've
influenced
the
shape
of
the
plan
going
forward.
C
So
those
are
the
website.
That's
the
website
address
and
if
you
go
to
that
website,
address
and
find
the
document
library
which
is
linked
to
there.
All
of
the
documents
we've
referred
to
this
evening
are
listed
and
readable
there,
and
if
you
have
any
queries,
that's
the
email
address
to
contact
us
on
and
we
will
answer
those
as
quickly
as
we
can
paul.
Do
you
want
to
quick
up
on
a
few
last
questions,
while
I
just
leave
that
up.
A
Trumping
in
as
an
area
police
reports
has
become
one
of
the
worst
three
wards
do
not
cite
this
as
planners
for
thank
you,
but
the
developers
have
reported
the
developers
approved
and
not
held
to
account.
How
can
this
be
developed
with
planning
reviews
such
as
local
plan
on
deciding
which
sites
to
engage
with
stephen,
I'm
going
to
pass
that
one
to
you
to
comments
on
that?
Probably
myself.
F
Thank
you
paul
I
mean
it.
It
is.
It
is
a
challenge
that
planning
can't
fix
everything
and
one
of
the
things
that,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
go
hand
in
glove
with
the
definition
of
quality
development
is
thinking
around
quality
implementation
by
the
partners
that
get
involved
in
the
development
process.
F
So
we
are
trying
to
give
some
thought
about
quality
standards,
and
indeed,
whilst
it's
difficult
that
the
planning
process
can't
put
a
policy
in
about
which
developers
develop,
which
sites
I
expect
that
there
will
be
further
exploration
of
things
around
the
management
of
sites.
The
effective
curating
of
place,
not
least
because
of
the
complexity
of
achieving
things
like
net
zero,
carbon
and
the
new
infrastructure
associated
with
public
realm
and
the
management
of
public
realm,
as
well
as
vehicle
charging
etcetera.
F
That's
going
to
need
to
be
put
in
place
for
some
of
those
newer
schemes
coming
forwards,
so
have
got
an
answer
for
it
right
now.
Obviously,
one
always
hopes
that
that
the
good
publicity
available
online
helps
people
to
make
informed
choices
about
their
future,
their
future
purchase,
and
we
are
aware
of
some
of
those
challenges
that
whether
or
not
me
and
the
planning
team
can
solve
the
behavior
of
some
of
the
developers
is,
is
probably
questionable
on
our
own
and,
I
think,
working
together.
A
Thanks
I'll
just
do
one
last
really
quick
one.
I
know
we've
gone
over
quite
a
bit,
but
I
think
then,
we've
covered
pretty
much
most
of
those
things
off.
I've
got
a
question
around
the
water
resources.
East
consultation.
I'm
not
sure
this
is
what
we
can
necessarily
answer
as
well,
but
it
was
raised
yesterday.
So
will
there
be
an
official
consultation
on
the
regional
water
plan
from
water
resources,
east
and
stephen
or
caroline?
I'm
not
sure
whether
you
know
that
at
this
stage
I
don't
think
we
know
specifically.
D
So
I
would
I
would
they
have
a
very
comprehensive
website
which
sets
out
their
timetable
and
what
they're
planning
in
terms
of
preparing
that
particular
plan.
I
noticed
also
in
the
questions.
There
was
a
a
point
about
whether
there's
an
independent
review
process
just
to
point
out
that
our
particular
study
was
subject
to
an
independent
academic
review,
and
you
can
find
a
summary
of
that
process
in
the
document
on
our
web
page.