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A
Good
afternoon,
everybody
welcome
to
the
third
q
a
session
of
the
northeast
cambridge
area
action
plan.
My
name
is
terry
de
souza.
I
am
a
principal
planning
policy
officer
at
the
greater
cambridge
share
planning
service
and
I'm
going
to
be
your
host
today
for
this
session.
A
I'm
very
pleased
to
say
that
we
have
a
number
of
people
joining
us
today
on
our
panel,
who
will
hopefully
be
able
to
answer
all
your
interesting
and
really
relevant
questions
on
water
and
climate
change,
which
are
very
important
and
key
topics
not
only
for
northeast
cambridge
but
generally
for
for
greater
cambridge
overall
before
we
get
started.
I
just
wanted
to
run
through
how
the
session
is
going
to
run
today.
A
My
co-host
emma
will
then
do
a
short
presentation
on
not
only
the
area
action
plan
but
provide
some
details
as
to
what
the
climate
change
and
water
policies
say
in
the
plan
and
then
it's
over
to
you
and
you
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
us
questions
and,
as
I
said,
we
will
do
our
best
to
answer
those
for
you
now.
The
way
you
do
that
is
very
simple.
A
At
the
bottom
of
your
screen,
there
will
be
a
button
that
will
say
q
a
within
that
you
can
type
in
your
question
and
you
can
do
that
either
anonymously
or
you
can
put
your
name
against
that
and
the
team
will
then
pick
those
up
as
the
session
goes
on
now
in
previous
sessions.
We
have
run
out
of
time
to
answer
all
of
the
questions,
so
what
we've
done
previously
is
we
will
get
through
as
many
as
we
can
within
the
hour
and
then,
after
that,
any
questions
that
we
aren't
able
to
answer
live.
A
We
will
then
provide
a
written
response
to
those
and
put
those
onto
the
council's
website
alongside
a
recording
of
this
q
a
session
now,
the
recording
it
won't
show
any
of
the
people
that
are
there
watching
us.
It's
only
going
to
be
the
panelists
and
myself
that
will
be
visible
on
the
screen.
So
you
don't
need
to
worry
about
you
being
visible
to
the
world
and
we
won't
be
reading
out
any
names
either
when
we're
answering
answering
your
questions.
A
A
B
A
Thank
you
emma.
I
will
then
now
pass
over
to
julia.
C
Sorry
about
that
my
name
is
julia
beaden.
I
work
for
the
county
council,
I'm
the
flood
risk
and
biodiversity
manager,
and,
although
I
haven't
been
as
directly
involved,
my
team
works
across
this
project
with
a
number
of
colleagues
from
the
the
greater
cambridgeshire
partnership
and
we're
looking
at
the
ecology
and
surface
water.
Flood
risk
impacts
of
this
site
going
forward.
D
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
harry
pickford.
I
work
for
the
county
council
as
well
as
a
sustainable
drainage
and
flood
risk
officer.
It's
kind
of
commenting
on
planning
as
it
comes
through
the
surface
water
impacts
on
this
development.
F
Hello,
I'm
matthew
patterson,
I'm
the
project
lead
developing
the
northeast
cambridge
area
action
plan
on
behalf
of
the
shared
planning
service.
A
Great,
thank
you
matt,
so
people
who
will
be
watching
will
also
see
my
colleagues,
joe
and
hannah
on
the
screen.
Joe
and
hannah
are
providing
invaluable
technical
support
with
this,
with
this
q,
a
and
others
so
just
in
case
you're
wondering
who
they
were
okay.
I
should
also
say
that
there's
no
chat
facility
within
within
the
webinar.
It
is
just
a
q,
a
session.
So,
as
I
said,
please
feel
free
to
ask
questions.
A
You
can
do
so
any
point
from
now
on
and
we
will
start,
I
think,
with
the
presentation
so
emma,
if
you'd
be
able
to
run
through
the
presentation.
That
would
be
fantastic.
Thank
you.
B
Of
course,
thank
you
just
wait
for
the
screen
to
start
sharing
there.
We
go
okay,
so
welcome
all
to
this
q,
a
session
where
we
are
focusing
on
climate
change
and
water
for
you
today.
So
if
we
move
on
to
the
next
slide,
I'm
just
going
to
give
you
a
very
brief
overview
of
the
site,
so
we're
looking
at
180-ish
hectares
of
brownfield
land
in
an
area
of
the
city.
That's
got
good
transport
accessibility
already
and
which
will
improve
significantly
over
the
coming
decades.
B
The
site
is
also
strategically
important,
not
just
for
the
greater
cambridge
area,
so
cambridge
and
south
cambridgeshire,
but
also
for
the
wider
region,
which
includes
the
oxford
cambridge
arc.
But
what
we're
very
clear
on
is
that
the
development
of
this
site
must
also
benefit
local
communities,
so
it
needs
to
address
deprivation
and
also
ensure
integration.
B
B
B
So
there
are
various
studies
and
also
topic
papers,
and
it
will
go
through
an
examination
process
with
an
independent
planning
inspector
prior
to
its
adoption,
so
moving
on
next
now
to
our
vision
for
the
site.
So
we
really
want
northeast
cambridge
to
be
an
inclusive,
walkable,
low-carbon
new
city
district,
with
a
lively
mix
of
homes,
workplaces,
services
and
social
spaces,
which
is
fully
integrated
with
surrounding
neighborhoods.
B
There
are
also
4
400
unused
car
parking
spaces
on
the
site
and,
as
we've
already
mentioned,
it's
15
minutes
from
the
city
centre
by
bike
in
the
future.
What
we're
looking
at
is
around
8
000
new
homes
on
site
for
around
eighteen
thousand
residents
and
forty
percent
of
those
homes
will
be
affordable.
B
B
The
development
of
the
site
will
also
have
to
support
the
transition
to
net
zero
carbon.
Now,
if
you've
already
looked
at
the
area
action
plan,
there's
no
specific
carbon
reduction
targets
in
there
yet,
and
that
is
because
we're
actually
working
at
the
moment
on
a
piece
of
evidence
base
that
will
develop
those
carbon
reduction
targets,
not
just
for
the
area
action
plan,
but
actually
for
greater
cambridge
as
a
whole
and
we've
got
the
local
plan
happening
kind
of
in
parallel
to
this
process.
B
We
are
also
going
to
be
developing
an
energy
master
plan
for
the
site.
So
that's
a
document
that
will
identify
the
energy
systems
required
to
support
those
carbon
reduction
targets
and
also
the
infrastructure
required
to
facilitate
their
delivery
and
also
we're
working
on
a
water
cycle
study,
that's
being
developed,
which
is
looking
at
both
flood
risk
and
also
water,
resource
availability
and
water
infrastructure,
and
that's
a
document
that
we're
going
to
have
independently
peer
reviewed
by
a
specialist
in
this
sector.
B
So
moving
on
to
my
next
slide,
as
I've
already
mentioned,
this
is
a
really
good
site
for
low
carbon
living.
It's
a
site
that
already
benefits
from
good
sustainable
transport
links,
so
we've
got
cambridge
north
station.
There's
the
bus
route
and
we've
already
got
some
good
cycle
links
on
the
site,
all
of
which
will
be
improved.
B
B
There
are
a
number
of
ways
in
which
we
can
discourage
non-essential
car
use
so,
for
example,
thinking
about
quotas
and
also
parking
restrictions,
and
one
of
the
clear
benefits
of
this
is
that
we'll
actually
see
an
improvement
in
air
quality
and
well-being
benefits
for
everyone.
Who's
currently
affected
by
the
levels
of
transport
on
milton
road.
B
So
next
slide
is.
This
is
kind
of
a
slide.
That's
showing
you
some
of
the
opportunities
on
this
site
for
designing
for
the
climate
emergency,
so
policy,
two
of
the
area
action
plan
is
our
climate
emergency
policy,
and
this
diagram
here
sets
out
some
of
the
opportunities
to
integrate
climate
resilience
into
the
design
of
the
built
environment.
B
And
then
the
next
slide,
which
is
my
last
slide
before
I
hang
back
to
terry,
is
some
of
the
water
issues.
Now
we
know
that
water
is
a
very
sensitive
issue
for
kind
of
greater
cambridge
as
a
whole.
The
area
action
plan
sets
out
a
number
of
policies
on
water,
there's
a
water
efficiency
policy
in
there
now.
A
Thank
you
emma.
That
was
really
helpful.
So
before
we
get
started,
we
had
a
few
questions,
come
through
kind
of
on
social
media
and
things
that
people
have
been
asking.
So
we
thought
we'd
put
them
into
the
beginning
of
the
q
and
a
session
just
to
try
and
address
some
of
those.
Some
of
those
questions,
so
we've
got
various
members
of
the
team
that
are
going
to
go
through
these
questions.
So
the
first
question
that
we
have
is:
how
will
the
scheme
deal
with
flood
risk?
E
So
I
can
answer
this
one,
so
the
development
proposals
will
require
a
strategic
flood
risk
assessment
and
and
the
strategic
flood.
The
risk
assessment
is
being
carried
out
for
a
cambridge
city,
council,
cabinet
city,
council
and
south
cambridgeshire,
and
what
and
of
course
the
northeast
cambridge
is
included
in
this
area.
The
study
is
going
to
look
into
assessing
flood
risk
from
different
sources
and
looking
at
the
effects
of
climate
change,
this
study
will
be
available,
is
being
carried
out
by
a
consultant
stantec
and
is
we
are
aiming
to
have
the
draft
in
september.
E
There
is
also
some
stakeholders
involved.
Environment
agency
lead
local
flat
authority,
water
companies
and,
as
the
individual
development
proposals
come
forward
for
the
northeast
cambridge,
we
can
then
identify
which
sites
are
within
the
flood
risk
zones
and
and
if
the
site
a
specific
site,
is
in
the
flood
risk
zone,
there
will
be
a
need
of
a
specific
flood
risk
assessment
for
that
development.
E
There
will
be
also
to
minimize
the
flood
risk
there
is
we
also
the
implementation
of
sustainable
drainage
measures
for
all
sides,
even
with
without
being
in
the
flood
risk
zone,
those
standards
and
expectations?
For
the
sustainable
drainage
are
drafts
in
the
policy
for
sea
flood
risk
and
sustainable
drainage.
A
That's
great,
thank
you,
louisa,
okay,
didn't
we
have
another
question
and
this
will
be
going
to
sorry
julia
and
it
will
there
be
enough
water
for
the
proposed
development.
C
C
So
so,
first
of
all,
in
terms
of
the
development,
it's
itself,
what
a
large
number
of
different
regulators
and
stakeholders
are
obviously
either
involved
in,
or
you
know,
in
a
role
which,
whereby
they'll
be
approving
these
designs,
so
there's
a
lot
of
very
close
working
from
the
local
level
right
up
to
the
more
regional
level,
with
the
water
companies
and
with
the
developers,
and
it
is
going
to
be
an
area
where
everything
is
managed
very,
very
carefully
and
there's
very
significant
awareness
of
the
local
concern
around
water
resources,
so
everyone's
working
very
closely
together
and
developers
will
be
expected
to
demonstrate
that
all
proposed
development
will
be
served
by
an
adequate
water
supply.
C
C
There
will
also
be,
as
emma
mentioned,
a
desire
for
maine's
water
consumption
of
actually
80
liters
per
person
per
day
to
be
achieved,
and
this
we
hope
can
be
used
can
be
achieved
using
rainwater,
harvesting
and
various
other
methods
of
water
recycling.
So
wait
will
be
afforded
to
to
trying
to
encourage
that
to
happen.
C
C
So
that's
what
we're
looking
for
five
gram
credits
for
water
use
so
in
terms
of
the
local
plan
at
the
next
level.
For
all
the
developments,
as
louisa
mentioned,
the
consultants
stantec
have
been
appointed
to
carry
out
a
strategic
flood
risk
assessment,
they're
also
carrying
out
an
integrated
water
management
study,
and
the
point
of
this
is
to
provide
a
robust
evidence
base
for
the
local
plan
to
support
that
plan's
development,
and
this
includes
looking
at
the
nec
air
action
plan
site.
C
The
water
resources
element
of
the
study
is
also
going
to
be
independently
reviewed
by
a
national
recognized
expert
in
this
field
to
ensure
rigorous
scrutiny.
So,
as
emma
mentioned
earlier,
that's
the
peer
review,
so
the
consultation
encourages
comment
and
feedback
on
policies
4a,
which
is
water,
efficiency
and
4b,
which
is
water
quality
and
ensuring
a
supply
for
the
draft
air
action
plan.
C
So
then,
just
briefly
at
the
the
wider
scale,
many
of
you
may
be
aware
of
water
resource
management
plans.
These
are
water
company
plans
that
plan
for
25
years,
and
these
are
updated
every
five
years
and
the
current
one
for
cambridge
water
is
2020
to
2045
and
at
that
much
more
regional
level.
C
It's
also
going
to
be
looking
at
water
transfer
with
other
regions
and
in
order
to
do
this
in
the
best
possible
way.
What's
happened
is
a
lot
of
the
water
companies
in
the
region
have
clubbed
together
to
create
water
resources
east,
which
was
also
mentioned
earlier,
and
through
that
organization
they
will
be
developing
some
quite
broad,
ranging
and
hopefully
quite
innovative
solutions
to
tackle
this
for
the
long
term,
so
that
work
can
underpin
any
kind
of
growth
in
the
local
plan.
A
Great,
thank
you,
julia
okay
and
then
the
next
question
we
have
is,
how
does
the
draft
area
action
plan
help
address
climate
change
and
I
think
emma
will
be
able
to
help.
B
Yeah,
okay,
so
section
4.1
of
the
draft
area
action
plan
sets
out
designing
for
the
climate
emergency.
So
in
terms
of
addressing
climate
change,
and
I'm
going
to
focus
in
a
little
bit
here
on
kind
of
climate
change.
Adaptation
is
that
policy
will
require
all
development
to
be
climate
proofed
against
a
range
of
different
climate
risks.
So
this
includes
flood
risk
and
water
availability
that
julie's
already
touched
on
and
lorisa
and
also
risks
such
as
overheating,
which
is
becoming
quite
a
critical
area
that
we're
experiencing.
B
So
in
order
to
minimize
the
risk
of
overheating.
For
example,
the
area
action
plan
requires
all
development
to
apply
what
is
known
as
the
cooling
hierarchy.
B
And
it's
looking
at
those
kind
of
passive
design
measures
before
we
then
start
to
think
about
having
to
use
mechanical
means
of
ventilation.
With
air
conditioning
being
the
absolute
last
resort,
we're
also
going
to
require
all
development
to
undertake
overheating
analysis
using
kind
of
industry
guidance
and
we're
asking
them
to
do
that
using
future
climate
scenarios
as
well
under
a
2050
climate
scenario
and
also
when
designing
for
overheating
risk.
B
A
Thank
you
emma
okay
and
then
the
final
question
before
we
get
on
to
the
questions
that
are
coming
in
at
the
moment.
Well
now
this
is
this
is
a
good
question,
because
you
know
the
draft
day
reaction
plan
talks
about
how
this
would
be
a
green
development
and
very
sustainable,
but
will
this
development
actually
be
net
zero
carbon,
so
matt,
hopefully,
you'll
be
able
to
answer
that
question
for
us.
F
Thanks,
terry
yeah,
so
yes,
the
draft
north
east
area
action
plan
has
been
fundamentally
shaped
really
by
the
requirement
for
it
to
be
low
carbon
low
impact
and
to
and
to
meet
our
requirements
regarding
net
biodiversity
increase.
So
therefore,
development
at
north
cambridge
must
support
the
transition
towards
net
zero
carbon
society
and,
in
that
context,
development
must
minimize
carbon
emissions
associated
with
the
operational
energy
and
construction,
including
materials,
as
well
as
wider
emissions.
F
Carbon
requires
us
to
rethink
all
aspects,
planning
and
placement,
not
just
about
how
the
buildings
are
designed
and
constructed,
but
also
about
siting
development,
where
it
will
be
well
served
by
public
transport,
cycling
and
walking,
as
well
as
renewable
and
low
carbon
energy
proposals
should
be
future-proofed
as
well
to
enable
future
occupants
to
easily
retro
fit
and
upgrade
buildings
and
or
infrastructure
in
the
future,
to
enable
achievement
of
a
net
zero
carbon
development.
F
We're
currently
working
with
bioregional
to
develop
an
evidence
base
for
net
zero
carbon
policies
in
the
local
plan
and
we'll
use
those
to
define
targets
and
policies
for
inclusion
in
both
the
aap,
but
also
in
the
local
plan,
and
that
works
not
just
looking
at
energy
use
in
buildings,
but
also
issues
like
transport
and
body
carbon,
as
well
as
when
development
should
achieve
net
zero
carbon.
So
for
now
we
have
a
placeholder
and
policy
2
in
the
aap
and
that's
where
we're
at.
A
Great,
thank
you
matt,
okay,
so
two
of
the
questions
that
we've
had
through
so
far,
I
think
I'm
going
to
try
and
group
them
together
and
probably
send
them
over
to
your
way.
Emma
so
many
moons
ago,
I
attended
a
presentation
at
their
new
hall
college
or
water
management
strategy
for
the
area.
What
happened
and
the
environment
agency
have
written
a
letter
on
the
7th
of
august,
saying
they
determine
that
current
levels
of
abstraction
are
causing
environmental
damage.
A
Any
increase
in
use
within
existing
licence
volumes
will
increase
the
pressure
on
a
system
that
is
already
failing
environmental
targets.
How
do
you
reconcile
reconcile
development
with
an
acknowledged
lack
of
water
resource?
Now?
I
think
julia
probably
picked
this
up
a
little
bit
in
her
response,
but
emma
would
be
good
if
you
could
just
just
touch
on
those
a
little
bit.
Please
that'd
be
great.
B
I
think
the
date
on
that
documents
2011
something
like
that,
so
that
was
a
document
that
informed
policy
development
for
our
existing
local
plans.
Now
that
document
did
actually
recommend
in
terms
of
water
efficiency,
a
figure
of
80
liters
per
person
per
day,
which
is
the
policy
that
we
had
in
our
draft
local
plan
and
unfortunately,
that
policy
was
removed
from
the
local
plan
by
the
planning
inspector.
B
This
links
back
to
what
I
mentioned
earlier
about
us
being
restricted
in
the
policies
that
we
can
set.
So
that
is
an
issue
for
us
moving
forward
and
something
that
we
are
looking
at
as
part
of
the
new
kind
of
integrated
water
management
study
that
we've
already
referenced
and
that
julia
has
referenced.
B
The
environment
agency,
I
believe,
are
on
the
steering
group
for
that
particular
study.
So
we
are
working
very
very
closely
with
the
environment
agency,
the
water
companies
and
also
other
groups
involved
in
the
water
environment,
because
we
do
know
that
this
is
a
critical
issue
that
needs
to
be
addressed
across
all
sectors,
not
just
new
development,
but
every
area
of
water
use
really
does
need
to
consider
how
we
can
reduce
water
demand
so
that
we
have
long-term
sustainable
supplies
of
water
resources.
B
So
that
is
something
that
is
being
looked
at
in
great
detail
as
part
of
the
integrated
water
management
study
and
looking
at
you
know,
what
can
we
do
to
perhaps
go
further
than
we
are
currently
able
to
in
local
policy?
Conversely,
we
can
set
whatever
water
efficiency
standard
that
we
can
for
non-residential
development,
so
the
the
standard
that
julia
referenced,
which
is
the
maximum
credits
from
the
berean
certification
process,
that
is
the
highest
standard
of
water
efficiency
that
you
can
actually
get
from
non-residential
development.
B
A
C
Yeah,
that
sounds
fine,
so,
yes,
that
that
is
true
in
terms
of
if,
if
the
solution
is
to
develop
a
new
reservoir,
for
example,
that
is
obviously
a
very
long
term
plan.
And
so
that's
why
the
water
resource
management
plans
are
planned
for
25
years,
but
you're
right
in
the
in
the
short
term.
C
That's
why
it's
imperative
that
the
development
does
consider
to
take
as
many
as
much
action
as
it
can
and
the
things
that
emma
and
I
have
mentioned
in
terms
of
reduced
water
usage,
but
the
if
you
look
in
the
water
resource
management
plans
for
cambridge
water
and
angling
water.
It
is
it's
reassuring
to
know
that
they
are
working
together
and
that
these
issues
and
this
there's
nothing
new
for
those
water
companies,
the
environment
agency
and
the
has
been
making
the
water
companies
aware
of
that.
C
There's
concern
for
for
a
while,
and
the
partners
are
working
very
closely
together
to
try
and
look
at
solutions.
So
there
are
proposals
to
try
and
look
at
some
quite
short-term
solutions
to
improve
the
resilience
of
the
chalk
streams.
C
So
I
think
you'll
hear
over
the
next
kind
of
year
in
the
next-
probably
six
months
or
so,
and
the
water
company,
through
water
resources
east,
looking
to
try
and
create
some
local
projects
working
with
local
partners
like
the
catchment
partners
and
with
the
district
councils
and
others
and
local
landowners
to
try
and
work
out
what
they
can
do
on
a
short-term
basis.
C
And
I
think
the
priority
is
very
much
about
that
resilience
for
for
chalk
streams
and
because
everyone
is
aware
not
just
it's
not
just
about
the
water
resource
levels,
but
about
when
that
water
is
abstracted
from
the
the
chalk
streams.
The
impact
that
that
then
has
on
the
habitat
and
the
biodiversity
of
those
streams.
C
So
it
is
very
much
an
issue
that
people
are
aware
of,
and
I
think
the
the
public
pressure
you
know
has
to
essentially
have
been
a
really
good
thing,
because
it
has
meant
that
that
issue
really
stays
at
the
top
of
that
agenda.
And
I
think
there
is
there's
definitely
going
to
be
some
movement
over
the
next
few
months.
As
we
start
to
to
look
at.
C
You
know
how
we
can
take
some
of
those
projects
toward
in
the
short
term,
so
that
then
there's
methods
in
place
so
that
the
long
term
schemes
can
then
pick
up
from
from
there
and
there's
certainly
been
a
discussion
with
the
county
council
with
south
cams
and
with
some
farmers
in
some
of
the
catchments
about
whether
we
can
get
together
and
start
a
project.
So
that's
something
that
we're
all
quite
excited
about,
doing
and
very
much
watch
this.
A
Sounds
space?
Thank
you.
Julia
okay,
we've
got
another
question.
One
of
the
previous
slides
had
somebody
holding
a
carrot
which
I
think
spot
sparked
a
question.
So
what
provision
will
this
development
make
for
residents
growing
food,
which
is
a
key
element
of
a
low-carbon
community?
We
need
dedicated
facilities,
including
allotments
and
community
gardens.
So
that's
a
really
good
question.
So
matt
is
that
something
you
could
take
on.
Please.
F
Yeah
sure,
so
a
key
requirement
of
the
aap
is
to
acquire
the
master
planning
of
the
area
to
be
landscape-led,
and
that's
purposely
done
so,
and
that
the
open
space
environment
within
nec
has
to
work
really
hard.
It
has
to
deliver
on
the
biodiversity
agenda.
Our
working
and
cycling
agenda
has
to
deal
with
the
climate
change
as
well
in
terms
of
trees
and
planting
for
cool,
but
alongside
that,
the
amenity
spaces
that
are
provided
are
there
for
recreation
purposes
for
proper
amenity
purposes,
but
can
also
be
providing
for
community
gardens
allotments
in
particular.
F
We're
looking
at
green
roofs,
which
are
equally
able
to
cater
for
community
gardens
and
the
like
and
part
of
this
will
come
down
to
the
planting
strategy
of
the
landscaping
proposals
as
well.
What
we're
looking
for
there
is
things
like
community
orchards
as
part
of
those
landscape
strategies
and
making
provision
for
growing.
A
Thank
you
matt.
I
know
some
of
the
community
orchards
in
the
city
at
the
moment
are
extremely
popular.
Aren't
they
within
good
for
local
communities,
so.
F
Yeah
and
you
can
build
a
lot
of
that
into
the
landscape
strategy
that
you
put
in
place,
you
know
a
landscape
doesn't
necessarily
just
need
to
be.
You
know.
A
Absolutely
thank
you.
Okay,
so
we've
got
a
question
about
it's
quite
relevant.
Actually
as
soon
as
the
weather
we've
been
having
recently.
So
certainly
it
was
hit
by
flash
flooding
not
so
long
ago.
How
will
you
deal
with
this
now
now
that
we've
got
this
raised
risk,
especially
during
the
summer,
so
does
that
mean
louisa?
You
might
be
able
to
answer.
Please.
E
So,
with
the
climate
change,
we
will
see
that
the
rainfall
will
be
quite
frequent
and
like
flash
flooding
will
appear
more
in
the
summer
and
so
in
terms
of
the
design.
We
expect
the
sustainable
drainage
to
accommodate
the
climate
change
allowance
and
to
prevent
you
know
to
accommodate
the
the
rainfall.
This
intensive
rainfall.
C
To
have
should
I
come
in
so
yeah
as
soon
as
I
mentioned,
there's
obviously
work
that
needs
to
be
done
at
the
site
detail
and
that's
what
louisa
and
harry
will
review
in
in
detail
as
the
applications
come
come
forward,
but
very
much
along
the
lines
that
emma's
mentioned
around
sustainable
drainage
systems.
You
know
holding
back
that
water
so
that
it
doesn't
have
an
impact
downstream
and
obviously,
wherever
possible,
providing
betterment.
C
But
just
for
the
wider
context,
there
is
a
you
know:
growing
concern
across
the
country
about
flash
flooding.
This
is
what
we
call
surface
water
flooding
or
you
may
hear
referred
to
as
pluvial
flooding
and
the
environment
has
just
released
its
new
national
strategy.
C
So
it's
the
national
flood
and
coastal
erosion
risk
management
strategy
that
was
just
released
for
public
awareness
last
week,
because
that's
week
before
last,
I
think
because
that's
now
going
through
parliament
for
approval
and
that
recognizes
that
increasing
risk
of
all
sorts
of
flood
risk,
as
louisa
mentioned
through
climate
change,
but
for
surface
water.
C
That's
an
area
that
that
my
team
at
the
county,
council
and
also
louise's
team
are
very
very
aware
of,
and
the
county
council
have
a
duty
to
prepare
a
local
flood
risk
management
strategy
which
we
will
update.
Now
that
the
national
strategy
has
been
approved
and
we
look
very
much
to
to
try
and
work
with
existing
communities
that
have
that
have
that
risk
to
see
what
we
can
put
in
place
with
them
to
to
manage
the
risk
better.
C
And
I
think
one
of
the
difficult
things
as
louisa
mentioned,
because
climate
change
is
going
to
have
a
significant
risk
is
balancing
that
against
the
infrastructure
that
we
have
in
this
country
at
the
moment,
because
the
types
of
rainfall
that
we're
seeing
and
we
haven't
got
the
figures
yet
advice,
respect
for
us
and
yet
we'll
prove
that
the
drainage
itself,
in
terms
of
the
existing
highway
drainage,
probably
had
a
very
minimal
effect
on
the
rain.
C
Because
I
suspect
the
rainfall
was
so
heavy
that
it
was
a
much
greater
quantity
than
could
be
coped
with
by
any
any
highway
or
local
infrastructure
on
that
scale.
And
what
that
means
is
that,
for
all
of
us,
across
the
country,
we're
going
to
have
to
be
much
better
prepared
for
this
kind
of
rainfall.
Obviously,
in
terms
of
replacing
huge
waves
of
infrastructure,
that's
a
massive
project
and
will
take
time
and
cost
money,
so
we're
all
going
to
have
to
be
much
more
much
more
prepared.
C
And
while
the
emphasis
is
on
the
individual
landowners
too,
to
manage
their
pro
the
risk
to
their
property,
and
that
involves
things
like
working
community
to
do
community
flood
plans
and
personal
flood
plans.
We
want
very
much
to
work
with
you
with
the
water
companies,
like
anglian
water,
with
an
environmental
agency
and
across
the
district
and
and
council
partners,
and
also
internal
drainage
boards,
where
they
exist
in
the
area.
To
try
and
find
you
know,
solutions
that
we
can
take
this
forward.
C
What
I
would
do,
though,
is
just
say
if
we
do
have
any
flash
flooding
in
any
other
areas,
just
to
urge
you
to
report
that,
because
the
county
council
can
only
take
forward
projects
and
investigations
about
areas
where
it's
aware
that
internal
flooding
to
properties
has
happened
so
just
to
put
a
general
plea
out
there
for
anyone.
That
is
aware
of
flooding
to
internal
properties,
to
please
report
that
to
the
county
council,
so
that
we
can
then
look
to
make
improvements.
But
I
think
the
focus
here
is
very
much
on
the
site.
C
We've
got
a
new
development
and
we've
got
that
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
that
site
does
have
a
really
fantastic
drainage
strategy
and
incorporates
things
like
green
roofs
and
fantastic,
sustainable
drainage
systems
that
do
not
only
reduce
the
the
risk.
Not
only
sorry,
not
only
prevent
there
being
an
increase
in
risk,
but
also
reduce
that
risk
and
provide
betterment
to
the
current
situation.
D
A
Gets
reported
to
and
how
there's
a
bit
of
ambiguity
out
there
as
to
you
know
who
do
you
contact?
You
can
contact
the
council
or
you
know
the
fire
brigade
or
others.
So
it's
helpful
that
you,
you
added
that
in
there,
because
I
don't
think
people
really
know
because
I
don't
think
they
come
across
it
very
often.
So
I
think
it's
it's
quite.
C
As
well,
it's
something
that
I
think
I
think
any
of
us
would
have
chosen
for
government
to
give
us
this.
This
messy
picture
you
know
with
having
water
companies,
district
councils,
county
councils,
highways,
internal
drainage,
boards,
environment
agency.
Everyone
has
a
different
role
in
flooding
and
I
think
that's
incredibly
confusing
for
the
public
and
not
something
that
any
of
us
would
wish
on
it.
C
So
I'd
always
say
you
know:
they're
very
welcome
to
report
the
flooding
to
us
as
the
lead
local
fed
authority,
and
we
can
make
sure
that
the
right
people
you
know
then
dealing
with
those
reports.
A
Thank
you.
I've
got
some
more
questions
about
allotments,
but
before
that,
I'm
just
going
to
stick
to
the
water
theme
for
just
a
second
for
one
more
question.
It
said:
will
some
of
that
water
be
collected
to
water,
the
green
spaces
within
northeast
cambridge?
So
emmy
you're
nodding
your
head,
so
that
might
be
a
question
that
might
be
coming
away.
B
A
Yeah
and
I
know
in
the
actual
area
action
plan
itself,
it
talks
about
sort
of
drought,
resilient
landscaping
as
well
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
increasing
the
problem
in
terms
of
water
usage
and
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
landscapes
and
public
realm
are
resilient.
To
you
know
the
client,
the
changing.
F
A
Patterns
that
we're
seeing
at
the
moment
so
yeah
absolutely
thank
you.
Okay,
coming
back
on
to
the
allotment
question,
which
seems
to
be
a
popular
one,
so
there's
some
skepticism
about
about
green
roofs
and
whether
that
whether
that
will
provide
you
know
the
allotments
that
that
people
are
gonna
need
and
also
talking
about
how
you
know
within
within
within
parishes.
There's
a
you
know,
there's
a
real
there's,
a
real
requirement
that
you
know
new
homes
provide
allotments.
So
what
does?
A
F
So
I
can
deal
with
the
first
one.
Green
moves
are
only
part
they're,
potentially
a
small
part
of
what
we're
talking
about
in
terms
of
space
for
growing
food.
Really.
What
we're
talking
about
is
within
the
wider
open
space
and
amenity
spaces
provided
within
the
schemes
landscape
surrounds,
but
roof
gardens
can
provide
a
component
of
that
as
well
in
terms
of
allotments
themselves.
The
local
plan
standard
is
a
requirement
of
0.4
hectares
per
1
000
heater
population.
A
It
just
a
follow-up
question
I
think
on
that
was
about
talking
about
the
standards
which
I
think
you've
already
mentioned,
matt
recognizing
that
norfolk's
cambridge.
Isn't
it's
not
an
urban
extension,
but
it
clearly
needs
significant
provision.
Given
the
absence
of
allotments
in
nearby
orchard
park
and
what
growing
areas
on
the
ground
will
there
be,
I
think,
you've
sort
of
covered
that
a
bit
in
your
response.
F
Already
yeah,
hopefully
I
mean
we:
we've
got
the
allotments
next
door
to
the
site
that
are
already
there.
We
would
be
looking
to
make
complementary
provision
on
site,
but,
like
I
say,
I
think,
whether
it's
allotments
in
the
traditional
sense
or
whether
you're
looking
at
more
community
garden
growing
areas.
A
Cool,
thank
you,
okay,
but
I
think
that's
a
really
good
point
actually,
and
I
think,
if
you
know
with
all
of
the
the
things
that
we're
talking
about
today
and
others,
you
know
if
people
have.
You
know
real
strong
kind
of
views
and
thoughts
on
these
topics,
and
you
know
we
would.
You
know,
really
really
encourage
you
to.
You
know.
Firstly,
thank
you
for
taking
part
in
the
q
a
but
to
actually
put
in
your
comments
formally
through
through
the
consultation
process,
because
that
is
really
how
we
can
be
able
to.
A
You
know
understand
what
the
the
concerns
are
of
local
people
and
how
we
can
then
try
and
address
those
as
we
as
we
seek
to
finalize
the
plan
over
the
next
over
the
next
months
and
years
before
it
gets
adopted,
so
so
yeah
just
a
just
a
plug
really
for
the
to
the
consultation.
Just
to
make
sure
you
get
your
comments
in
writing.
A
B
That
does
sound
like
an
emma
question.
Okay,
so
this
is
quite
an
interesting
area
actually,
and
it
is
quite
critical
area
for
net
zero
carbon,
because
dealing
with
energy
use
in
buildings
is
actually
quite
easy
to
do,
and
the
embodied
carbon
in
materials
is
quite
a
big
proportion
of
the
building's
energy
use.
Now
it
is
an
emerging
area
because
at
the
moment
in
the
uk,
there's
no
one
defined
way
of
actually
calculating
embodied
carbon.
B
So
what
we've
done
for
now
is
we've
again
it's
a
kind
of
placeholder
that
we've
put
into
policy
two
of
the
area
action
plan,
so
we
will
be
requiring
all
developers
to
minimize
carbon
emissions
associated
with
embodied
carbon,
and
we
are
asking
them
to
use
a
specific
way
of
calculating
that
and
I
think
we
refer
them
to
what's
in
the
I
think
it's
the
rick's
embodied
carbon
or
climate
emergency
design
guide.
B
So
that's
what
we're
using
for
now,
because
that's
kind
of
one
of
the
established
methodologies,
but
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
work
still
to
be
done
on
actually
defining
a
really
good
tool
for
calculating
embodied
carbon
and
it's
something
that
bioregional
are
looking
at
for
us
as
part
of
their
work
on
net
zero
carbon.
So
when
we've
got
the
outputs
for
that
study,
which
should
be
later
this
year,
we
can
re-look
at
that
part
of
the
policy.
And
if
we
need
to
slightly
amend
that
policy
we
can
do.
A
Used
sorry,
I'm
a
mute
yeah
follow
a
question
to
that.
Can
you
insist
that
rick's
or
royal
institute
of
chartered
surveyor
standards
are
met.
B
B
So
it
is
an
area
that
I
would
say
we're
possibly
testing
through
the
area
action
plan
and
also
through
the
local
plan,
but
the
rix
targets
are
quite
widely
used
already
in
the
construction
industry.
So
I
would
hope
a
lot
of
the
developers
that
we
will
see
on
site
will
already
be
quite
familiar,
which
is
why
we
went
for
the
rick's
approach
for
now,
because
it's
probably
the
most
familiar
approach
to
the
widest
part
of
the
construction
industry.
A
Okay
and
then
one
of
the
questions
that
I
was
actually
asked
on
the
first
webinar
and
I
thought
it
was
probably
more
appropriate
for
this
one
was
about
timber-framed
buildings
and
about
how
what
sort
of
you
know
there's
a
big
push
at
the
moment,
I
think
centrally
from
government
about
you
know,
looking
at
other
methods
of
construction
and
timber
is
obviously
one
that
is
getting
a
lot
of
international
attention,
and
just
you
know
what
role
could
timber
frame
buildings
have
at
northeast
cambridge
and
how
does
that
help?
B
You
see
the
use
of
a
lot
of
timber
in
modular
construction,
for
example,
and
cross-laminated
timber,
which
is
a
very
kind
of
strong
structural
type
of
timber,
is
becoming
more
and
more
widespread.
So
some
of
that
would
get
picked
up
in
that
kind
of
embodied
carbon
approach.
The
area
action
plan
does
require
kind
of
life
cycle
analysis
as
well.
So
there
is
a
bit
of
debate
amongst
architects
as
to
what
is
a
better
performing
material.
B
When
you
look
at
life
cycle
and
take
into
account
things
like
you
know,
if
you're
using
concrete
frame
that
might
give
you
slightly
better
thermal
mass
and
helps
to
cool
the
building
reducing
cooling
loads.
So
there
is
a
bit
of
a
kind
of
argument
about
what's
the
best
technique,
but
I
think
certainly
we
may
well
see
more
timber
construction
for
some
of
the
the
buildings
coming
forward.
B
It
becomes
slightly
trickier
when
you
get
to
slightly
taller
buildings,
because
building
regulations
requirements
kick
in
as
well
and
they
they
will
sometimes
limit
the
use
of
timber
for
structural
elements,
but
I
think
certainly
we'll
we'll
see
it
coming
forwards.
More
and
more.
A
Thank
you.
Sorry.
I
keep
forgetting
until
I'm
mute.
Thank
you
right.
We've
got
10
more
minutes
in
this
q
a
so.
If
there's
any
more
any
more
questions,
people
like
to
ask
please
please
do
ask
them
in
the
q
a
function
at
the
bottom.
Like
I
said,
if
we
don't
manage
to
get
through
them
all,
we
will
provide
written
responses
and
put
those
online
within
the
next
couple
of
days.
A
Just
to
give
you
just
a
quick
update
in
terms
of
what's
coming
up
moving
forward,
we
do
have
four
four:
it's
got
five
on
there,
five
more
q,
a
sessions
lined
up
and
the
next
one
is
on
open
spaces
and
biodiversity,
and
that's
on
the
26th
and
then,
as
you
can
see,
we
have
a
few
more
themed
sessions
before
we
have
a
more
general
one
to
conclude
on
the
21st
of
september,
which
is
just
a
couple
of
weeks
before
the
consultation
closes,
which
the
date
for
the
diaries
is
5
p.m,
on
the
5th
of
october.
A
So
if
you
are
going
to
respond
to
the
consultation,
please
make
sure
your
comments
are
with
us
by
then,
and
there's
a
lot
more
detail
on
the
website
on
the
council's
website
as
to
how
you
can
engage
in
the
process
details
on
the
screen
now,
okay,
so
before
we
run
out
of
time,
we've
got
some
questions
here.
A
Okay,
so
we've
got
one
about
okay
for
amusement
and
that
timber
was
used
for
the
framework
of
the
roof
at
yorkminster
after
it
burnt
back
in
the
80s.
I
would
have
thought
that
that
was
a
tall
building.
A
Fair
enough,
okay
and
we've
got
one
about
basement,
okay,
so
it's
very
often
deep,
basements
and
underground
car
parks
require
more
concrete
and
embody
more
carbon.
Will
you
refuse
permission
for
these?
That's
a
really
good
question.
Actually
so.
B
Map,
oh
that's
an
interesting
question.
I'm
not
sure
what
the
response
is,
because
we
do
actually
see
quite
a
lot
of
basements
and
they're
used
for
multiple
uses,
so
they
you
know
they
do
provide
basement
parking.
They
also
provide
plant
space,
but
undoubtedly
they
do
have
quite
a
high
embodied
carbon
requirement.
So
I
think
some
of
the
work
that's
ongoing.
Looking
at
you
know,
targets
for
embodied
carbon
might
help
with
some
of
that.
B
There
are
some
benefits
when
you're
digging
a
basement,
though,
and
that
you
could
actually
be
at
the
same
time
thinking
about
putting
in
ground
source
heat
pumps.
So
there
are
possibly
some
advantages
with
that
approach.
I
think
in
terms
of
the
car
parking.
Obviously,
the
standards
within
the
area
action
plan
will
hopefully
be
reducing
the
amount
of
car
parking
spaces
anyway.
Yeah,
that's
a
really
interesting
question.
I
think,
with
more
work
done
on
embodied
carbon
and
coming
up
with
actual
targets,
for
that
that
would
hopefully
help
to
limit
some
of
that.
F
F
I
don't
think
we're
really
looking
at
underground
basement
car
parking
nec.
The
proposal
here
is
to
look
at
car
barns
more
than
anything
else.
So
it's
car
storage
and
we're
looking
at
those
are
sort
of
multi-storey
car
parks,
more
than
underground
basement
parking
within
buildings,
and
then
even
then,
they'd
be
wrapped
around
if
you
like,
with
other
uses
around
them,
and
but
as
sms
is,
if
there
are
basements
going
in,
certainly
to
to
could
be
for
any
purposes
really
cycle,
storage
and
and
other
things.
F
A
A
B
I
suspect
we
will
see
a
shift
to
heat
pumps,
we're
already
seeing
quite
a
shift
towards
heat
pumps
in
applications
coming
forward.
Now,
that's
partly
a
link
to
government's
proposals
to
ban
new
gas
boilers
in
new
homes
from
2025
and
certainly
most
commercial
developments.
Non-Residential
developments
coming
forwards
now
are
either
using
ground
source
or
air
source
heat
pumps.
B
That
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
will
be
looking
at
as
part
of
the
energy
master
plan
work
as
well
as
what
sort
of
technologies
are
there
out
there
to
help
support
the
targets
that
will
be
in
the
area
action
plan?
So
I
think
we
may
well
be
seeing
a
bit
of
a
mix
of
technologies
really,
but
I
think
certainly
we
will
be
moving
towards
electric
forms
of
heating
for
this
site
and
you
could
see
possibly
you
know
district
scale,
heat
networks
powered
by
heat
pumps.
B
I
don't
want
to
preempt
the
work,
but
certainly
this
development
is
of
a
scale
that
that
sort
of
approach
could
be
possible.
A
And
a
follow-up
question
to
that,
then
emma
is
so
you
talk
about
the
energy
master
plan
and
it
was
in
the
presentation
at
the
beginning.
But
what
happens
if
a
developer
or
landowner
doesn't
want
to
sign
up
to
the
energy
master
plan
for
the
site?
Would
you
have
a
gap?
Would
they
kind
of
be
allowed
to
do
their
own
thing?
How
would
that
work?
They.
B
Would
need
to
provide
justification
as
to
why
they
couldn't
sign
up
to
the
energy
master
plan.
I
mean
that
energy
master
plan
is
going
to
be
subject
to
viability,
testing,
as
well
as
being
a
technical
piece
of
work.
So
I
think
you
know
any
proposals
to
move
away
from
that
energy
master
plan
which
will
be
required
through
policy.
B
There
will
need
to
be
some
quite
detailed
justification
as
to
why
it
cannot
be
implemented
for
a
particular
site.
I
mean
the
whole
idea
is
to
try
and
take
a
more
efficient
approach
to
energy
across
the
whole
site
and
to
also
integrate
that
with
utilities
infrastructure
as
well.
B
So
anything
that
kind
of
goes
outside
of
the
master
plan.
It
could
be
that
there
isn't
sufficient
infrastructure
to
support
that
approach
anyway.
So
hopefully,
if
we
can
work
with
landowners
and
bring
them
on
board
with
this
energy
master
plan
as
well,
it
will
get
delivered
and
will
deliver
a
much
more
appropriate
response
for
a
development
of
this
scale.
A
Great,
thank
you.
Emma
okay,
we've
just
got
a
couple
of
more
minutes
left
one
question
that
really
came
through,
particularly
from
councillors.
Actually,
during
before
we
were
well
when
we
were
seeking
authority
to
consult
it's
about
whether
we're
setting
a
high
enough
standard
for
new
homes
and
and
workplaces
in
relation
to
kind
of
carbon
standards
or
could
could
we
should
be
doing
more
matt
or
emma.
I
suspect,
they're,
probably
questions
for
either
of
you.
F
Yeah,
I
think
I
mean
it's
a
good
challenge
by
members
and
I
think
it's
right
to
challenge
and
to
push
the
targets
as
far
as
we
can
you're.
We
are
slightly
hampered
in
that
we
were
hoping.
Such
targets
would
come
from
national
and
be
led
by
national
planning
policy,
and
rather,
unfortunately,
the
mppf
and
others
have
gone
slightly.
The
other
way,
in
terms
of
you
know,
we
were
ramping
up
to
code
for
sustainable
home
six
at
one
point,
and
then
we
were
going
to
be
net
zero,
carbon
by
2025
or
2030.
F
I
think
it
was
originally
and
those
targets
are
slowly
gone
away
really,
and
it's
been
left
to
the
local
authorities
to
try
and
forge
ahead
and
try
and
deliver
on
the
aspirations
that
I
think
we
all
want
to
see,
which
is
to
to
drive
towards
net
zero
carbon.
But
at
a
time
when,
potentially
you
know,
the
government's
priority
is
around
building
building
beautiful,
but
building
lots
and
lots
of
homes
and
probably
at
the
at
a
cheaper
level
than
than
we
would
want
and
at
a
lower
quality
of
standard
than
we
would.
F
I
think
well
and
one
through
policy.
Certainly
so
I
think
it's
right
that
we
are
certainly
trying,
through
the
iap,
to
push
the
boundaries
of
what
is
achievable
and
we're
doing
that
in
essence
through
doing
an
aap
for
what
is
a
large
area
which
enables
us
to
do
this
at
scale
so
that
when
we
come
to
the
individual
development
plot,
hopefully
it's
a
much
easier
ask
of
the
developer
to
deliver
that
if
we've
got
the
wider
infrastructure
put
in
place
to
help
them
achieve
net
zero
carbon
from
the
outset,.
B
So
I
know
members
are
particularly
keen
on
things
like
passive
house,
so
we
do
encourage
the
use
of
that
through
the
the
area
action
plan
and
I
think
also
one
of
the
things
that
the
bioregional
work
is
looking
at
is
how
to
express
standards
and
how
to
you
know,
is
carbon
reduction
there
right
the
right
approach,
or
should
we
be
looking
at
kind
of
energy
intensity,
metrics
which
really
don't
drive
stone
energy
demand
in
buildings?
B
A
Brilliant,
thank
you
emma
okay,
that
pretty
much
draws
us
to
the
end
of
the
time.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
person
who
shared
a
link
about
how
you
can
report
flooding
from
the
central
government
website.
So
that's
really
helpful.
So
thank
you.
I
think
we
can
actually
put
that
in
the
in
our
written
response.
That
goes
with
the
that
goes
with
this
video
online,
so
that,
if
anyone's
watching
this
on
demand
so
to
speak,
then
they
they
can.
They
can
see
where
that
is
that'll.
A
Be
really
helpful.
So
thank
you,
okay.
So
thank
you
very
much
to
everybody
who
has
joined
us
today.
I
hope
we
answered
your
questions
kind
of
as
fully
and
comprehensively
as
you
were
hoping
you
know.
This
is
a
a
big
development.
You
know
very
exciting,
but
doesn't
come
about
its
challenges.
Climate
change
and
water
is
definitely
one
of
those.
So
you
know
we're
really
really
keen
for
you
to
provide
us
with
your
feedback
on
the
draft
plan
you
know.
Are
we
are
we
doing
enough
enough?
A
Should
we
should
we
be
asking
developers
for
more
so
yeah?
So
please
do
provide
your
feedback
before
the
before
the
consultation
deadline.
There's
a
lot
more
information
on
our
website.
There's
faq
videos
about
you,
know
the
plan
in
general
and
some
specific
topics
as
well
and
there's
also
a
feedback
form
on
the
on
the
q
a
session.
So
if
you
have
any
comments-
or
you
want
to
tell
us
how
you
thought
that
the
event
went
today
or
previous
sessions
have
gone,
then
we
would
really
welcome
that.
A
You
know
these
are
these
are
new
to
us.
You
know
we've
never
done
webinars
before
as
a
as
a
local
planning
authority.
This
is
strange
times
that
we're
living
in,
but
we're
hoping
that
these
sessions
are
helpful
and
useful
to
you.
They're,
not
quite
the
same
as
speaking
to
you
all
in
public
in
public
places
face
to
face,
but
I
think
given
where
we
are
at
the
moment.
A
These
are,
you
know,
hopefully
a
good,
a
good
alternative
option,
but
yes
just
to
say
thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us
and
also
to
my
co-presenter
emma
and
all
of
the
other
panelists
as
well
for
taking
the
time
today
to
be
here.
So,
thank
you
very
much
goodbye.