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A
Just
a
few
bits
about
how
today
is
going
to
work,
we're
going
to
do
a
really
quick
presentation
for
you
going
over
some
of
the
detail
in
the
area,
action
plan,
around
biodiversity
and
open
spaces,
and
then
we're
gonna
do
look
at
the
q
and
a's
that
hopefully,
you'll
start
posting
into
the
q
a
panel
at
the
bottom.
Here
we've
got
some
great
we've
got
some
great
panel
members
and
they're
going
to
introduce
themselves
in
a
minute,
but
just
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping.
A
Obviously
this
is
a
recorded
session,
so
we
are
going
to
be
not
reading
out
people's
names
when
they
post
their
questions,
because
that's
obviously
a
gdpr
issue
and
please
obviously
do
try
to
keep
keep
the
questions
on
topic
as
much
as
possible.
We
have
got
some
other
webinars
coming
up
and
we'll
post
details
of
them
towards
the
end.
A
So
if
there
are
other
things
that
our
panel
here
can't
answer,
we'll
either
answer
them
in
written
answers
which
we'll
put
on
our
website
or
we'll
also
carry
them
through
to
other
webinars
that
we
have
coming
up.
So
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
my
lovely
colleagues
here
and
introduce
you
all
to
them.
Firstly,
terry.
D
E
Hi,
I'm
dan
weaver,
I'm
the
ecology
officer
for
cambridge
shared
service.
I
have
to
admit
I
am
sitting
in
for
guy
belcher
at
the
moment,
he's
actually
on
holiday
and
guy's
been
involved
in
the
the
sort
of
preparation
of
the
fan.
But
I
will
do
my
best
to
cover
for
him
and
answer
questions
to
come
to
us.
G
Good
evening
everybody
greg
macronechan
planning
consultant
shared
planning
for
service
similar
to
the
others,
really
been
working
on
nec
preparing
evidence
and
writing.
D
My
name
is
joe
burnham
and
I
support
the
greater
cambridge
shared
planning
service
with
consultation
and
engagement
and
I'm
here
to
support
with
hosting
the
webinars.
Thank
you.
A
A
Brilliant
there
we
are
so
terry,
I'm
going
to
hand
this
over
to
you.
Firstly,
obviously
we're
going
to
just
do
a
little
little
run
through
of
nec
generally
and
then
on
to
the
open
spaces.
B
Thank
you
hannah
I'll,
just
turn
my
camera
off,
because
I'm
having
some
slight
I.t
issues
with
my
internet
speed,
so
hopefully
you'll
all
be
able
to
hear
me
if
not
seen.
If
you
can't
see
me,
okay,
so
northeast
cambridge,
as
you
can
see
it's
the
area
shown
in
orange,
so
it's
all
the
land
between
the
railway
line
all
the
way
across
milton
road.
It
includes
cambridge
science
park
and
cambridge
regional
college.
Now
it's
a
huge
site.
B
It's
180
hectares
of
brownfield
land,
which
is
larger
than
cambridge
city
centre,
and
to
give
you
a
sense
of
scale,
if
you
walk
from
one
side
of
the
site
to
the
other,
it's
the
equivalent
of
walking
from
the
beehive
center
to
the
backs.
So
it
really
is
a
huge
site
with
lots
of
potential.
B
C
B
Line
the
guided
busway,
the
chisholm
trails
being
built
at
the
moment,
and
also
the
proposals
for
things
such
as
cam
as
well.
B
It's
only
a
15-minute
cycle
ride
from
the
city
centre,
so
it's
got
really
good
accessibility
to
a
lot
of
the
kind
of
you
know,
main
services
and
facilities
in
town,
but
there
are
a
range
of
landowners
within
this
area
from
trinity
who
are
in
the
science
park
to
st
john's
college,
who
own
the
innovation
park,
and
so
the
area
action
plan
is
really
important
to
try
and
coordinate
planning
across
this
area
over
over
the
planned
period
and
beyond.
B
The
site
is
strategically
important
as
well
for
greater
cambridge
and
the
wider
region,
which
includes
the
oxford
cambridge
arc
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
real
key
things
that's
come
out
of
speaking
to
communities
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
particularly
the
last
round
of
consultation
was
that
local
communities
must
really
benefit
from
development
at
this
site.
It
really
can't
be
about
us
and
then
the
development
needs
to
spread
its
benefits,
address
deprivation
in
the
wider
area
as
well.
B
So
what
is
an
area
action
plan?
So
an
area
action
plan
is
a
planning
framework.
It
has
a
number
of
policies
within
it
that
any
development
that
comes
forward
would
need
to
comply
with.
It
has
the
equivalent
status
to
a
local
plan,
so
it
has
a
number
of
evidence-based
documents
that
underpin
it.
I
think
at
the
moment
we're
up
to
53.
B
B
We
will
take
all
the
comments
into
consideration,
seek
to
finalize
the
plan,
and
then
we
will
consult
again
before
we
go
go
to
an
independent
examination
where
there
will
be
an
open,
an
open
inquiry
with
independent
chair
from
the
planning
inspectorate,
as
you
can
see
by
the
diagram
it.
Oh
sorry,
as
you
can
see
by
the
diagram,
it
sits
just
below
the
national
planning
policy
framework
and
alongside
the
local
plans.
B
So
the
vision
for
norfolk
is
cambridge,
so
we
had
a
vision
from
the
last
consultation
and
we
took
those
comments
on
board
and
we've
tweaked
it
slightly.
B
So
we
picked
out
some
headline
figures
for
you.
So,
as
you
can
see,
there,
you've
got
the
size
of
the
site
which
I've
already
mentioned.
There
are
three
homes
within
the
site,
despite
its
size,
their
three
free
homes
on
the
sewage
treatment
work
site
which
not
many
people
know
about.
B
There
are
around
15
000
jobs
on
the
site
at
the
moment,
and
there
are
roughly
sort
of
four
and
a
half
thousand
unused
car
parking
spaces
on
cambridge
science
park
based
on
the
traffic
data
that
we've
been
over
the
last
few
years,
but
in
the
future
this
is
what
what
the
plan
is
seeking
to
achieve
is
8
000
homes,
which
would
be
for
18,
000
residents
and
40
is,
is
what
we're
aspiring
for
in
terms
of
affordable
housing.
B
We
think
that
we
can
create
20
000
new
jobs
on
top
of
the
15
000
that
are
already
there
and
that's
not
just
jobs
in
terms
of
office.
Space
and
r
d-
that's
also
industry
and
retail
as
well,
and
then
also
new
public
spaces
as
well,
which
is
what
we're
coming
on
to
today,
where
we've
got
10
new
hectares
of
public
parks
and
squares,
as
well
as
three
new
primary
schools,
a
new
library,
a
number
of
improved
walking
and
cycling
connections
as
well
so
green
spaces.
B
So
in
terms
of
what
the
plan
sets
out
is
that
we've
got
a
range
of
green
spaces
across
the
area,
action
planning
area.
So
the
main
one
is
what
we
call
the
linear
park
now.
That
is
the
part
that
stretches
from
nuffield
road.
So,
if
you
can
imagine
where
thank
you
hannah,
if
you
can
imagine
where
the
allotments
are
on
nuffield
road
at
the
moment,
they
stretch
right
all
the
way
up
through
the
site
up
to
the
a14
and
then
under
into
milton
county
park.
B
B
We
also
have
a
number
of
neighborhood
green
spaces,
now
they're
not
shown
on
this
diagram
because
they
fall
within
the
grey
areas.
So
there
are
the
the
sort
of
smaller
scale,
neighborhood
areas
within
that
and
also
green
streets.
One
of
the
key
things
that
we're
aiming
for
in
the
air
action
plan
is
to
really
try
and
reduce
the
number
of
people
that
need
to
travel
by
car.
As
I
said,
we've
already
got
really
good
transport
cities
at
the
moment.
B
B
So
it
really
opens
up
the
opportunity
to
create
streets
for
people
proper
streets
where
you
know
there
isn't
on-street
car
parking,
except
for
blue
badge
holders
and
access
you
know
and
and
the
street
becomes
less
about
the
car
and
more
about
the
people
and
the
activities
within
it.
I've
also
talked
to
we
talked
about
chesterton
fenn
and
how
northeast
cambridge
will
link
to
the
river
camp,
we're
so
lucky
in
the
sense
that
this
site
is
on
the
edge
of
cambridge.
So
it
has
really.
B
You
know,
geographically,
it's
so
close
to
milton
county
park,
it's
close
to
the
river
and
the
wider,
the
wider
fence.
So
you
know
this
is
a
real
opportunity
to
not
not
just
for
people
that
are
going
to
be
living
and
working
in
northeast
cambridge,
but
those
that
live
around
the
area
at
the
moment
and
improve
their
accessibility
to
the
wider
countryside.
B
So
you
could
be
at
nuns
way
pavilion
for
example,
and
be
able
to
walk
all
the
way
through
northeast
cambridge
under
the
a14,
and
you
could
be
in
milton
county
park
without
even
having
to
go
along
any
sort
of
main
roads
or
you
could
go
over
the
railway
line
into
chester
and
fend
along
the
river
corridor.
B
So
this
is
just
just
sort
of
explain
what
I've
talked
about
already
slightly,
so
we
number
one
is
that
linear
park,
and
then
we've
got
the
area
at
number
two,
which
is
the
what
we're
calling
cowley
triangle.
So
that's
opposite
st
john's
innovation
park.
B
We
then
have
the
the
kind
of
what
we're
calling
the
green
high
street,
which
is
trying
to
integrate
the
first
public
drain,
which
runs
through
the
site
at
the
moment,
and
is,
I
think,
it's
a
slightly
unloved
feature
of
this
part
of
the
part
of
cambridge
and
how
we
can
really
integrate
that
into
into
this
into
this
new
high
street
for
the
district,
and
actually
it
becomes
a
real
key
key
feature,
not
only
in
terms
of
public
realm,
but
also
in
terms
of
biodiversity
as
well.
B
We
are
then,
looking
to
we've
obviously
got
the
science
park
open
spaces
at
the
moment,
which
is
number
four
and
how
we
can
try
and
improve
some
of
those
open
spaces
as
well
on
the
edges
of
the
site,
so
really
trying
to
draw
people
into
the
science
park
and
into
northeast
cambridge.
More
generally
so,
you've
got
cambridge
park
brook
which,
which
is
just
over
there,
and
then
you've
got
science
park
place,
which
is
where
we're
proposing
to
put
a
small
local
centre
in
at
the
science
park.
B
So
in
terms
of
scale
and
amount
there,
like,
I
said,
there's
a
number
of
new
parks
which
we're
proposing.
So
if
you
took
the
linear
park
and
cowley
triangle,
so
just
those
two
not
including
the
science
park
brook
and
all
the
others
that
gives
you
10.6
hectares
of
major
strategic
open
space.
B
So,
to
give
you
an
example,
it's
slightly
bigger
than
what
parker's
pieces
at
the
moment,
if
you
combine
those
together,
we've
got
about
8.8
hectares
of
existing
public
space,
so
thinking
about,
what's
in
the
science
park
at
the
moment,
for
example,
and
then
I
think,
and
then
those
neighborhood
spaces
which
aren't
shown
on
our
diagrams,
which
are
just
under
seven
hectares
of
space
in
total.
So
all
together,
these
equate
to
around
about
25
26
hectares
of
open
space,
which
is
the
equivalent
of
jesus,
green
and
mid-summer
common
combined.
B
So
we've
got
some
really
important
principles
for
open
space.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
not
just
create
large
areas
of
lawn
effectively,
whilst
those
are
really
important
and
obviously
people
need
space
to
kick
a
ball
around.
B
They
open
spaces
need
to
be
multifunctional
as
well,
so
they're
actually
well
used
throughout
the
year
by
a
whole
range
of
people
from
the
young
to
the
old
and
just
making
sure
that
we
create
open
spaces
that
are
really
climate
resilient
as
well,
so
you're,
not
creating
football
pitches
that
effectively,
you
can't
use
for
half
the
year,
because
because
they're,
underwater
or
they're
waterlogged,
and
also
making
sure
that
our
landscaping,
you
know,
really
thinks
about
the
effects
of
climate
change
and
making
sure
that
we
create
open
spaces
that
are
sort
of
drought
or
climate
change
resilient
and
also
integrating
sustainable
drainage
systems
as
well.
B
So
these
are
some
of
our
examples
of
open
space
just
taken
from
elsewhere.
So
one
of
the
documents
you
can
read
online
is
the
is
called
our
typology
study
and
it's
basically
examples
of
developments
from
elsewhere.
So
we
haven't
just
looked
at
buildings.
We've
also
looked
at
open
spaces
as
well,
so
starting
from
the
top
left.
This
is
an
example
of
a
linear
park.
As
you
can
see,
a
whole
range
of
different
functions
there
from
seating
to
play
to
water
water
features
shading.
B
It's
actually
hard
to
believe
that
that's
actually
sitting
on
top
of
a
a
shopping
center.
You
wouldn't
know
it,
but
you
know
it
gives
you
an
example
of
how
of
how
you
can
create.
You
know
really
good
quality
open
spaces
in
quite
innovative
ways.
The
center
top
picture
is
an
example
of
you
know
how
you
could
maybe
try
and
imagine
what
cowley
road
could
look
like
in
terms
of
the
high
street
and
how
you
could
create
a
linear
sort
of
central
park
along
that
along
that
high
street.
B
The
top
right
picture
gives
you
an
example
of
those
neighborhood
spaces
so
that
one's
taken
from
copenhagen,
as
you
can
see
the
scale
of
the
buildings
you're
looking
at
sort
of
seven
stories
buildings
within
this
area,
but
how
that
green
space
can
be
used
to
help.
You
know
help
offset
offset
that
provide,
provide
those
sort
of
doorstep
areas
really
of
open
space
which
are
so
important
to
a
whole
range
of
people
and
then
thinking
about
the
more
private
open
spaces.
B
So
the
bottom
left
picture
is
from
ocean
estate
in
stepney
in
london.
That's
an
example
of
an
internal
courtyard.
So
that
is
a
space
that's
open
to
the
residents
that
live
within
that
block.
Obviously
none
of
those
none
of
those
open
spaces
are
shown
on
any
of
our
diagrams
in
the
plan,
but
those
those
are
the
types
of
things
that
we
would
be
expecting
development
to
have
to
include
as
it
comes
forward.
B
The
bottom
middle
picture
is
an
example
of
a
podium
garden,
so
that's
actually
above
street
level.
I
think
it's
actually
got
a
sainsburys
underneath
it
and
it
just
shows
how
you
again,
you
can
create
those
kind
of
communal
spaces
for
the
residents
in
in
a
in
a
quite
innovative
way
really
and
in
the
top
one
is
it's
taken
from
the
states
where
it
shows
how
you
can
use
the
roof
spaces
as
well.
B
Now,
obviously,
they
might
not
be
appropriate
for
all
uses,
but
you
know
things
like
food
growing,
which
was
a
really
a
really
good
discussion
that
we
had
at
the
last
q
a
webinar,
so
it
just
sort
of
shows
examples
of
open
space,
and
then
it
gets
to
think
about
streets
as
well.
As
I
said,
you
know,
people
won't
be
parking
outside
their
outside
their
front
doors,
and
so
it
really
allows
us
to
reimagine
what
the
street
could
be
like.
So
you
know,
imagine
imagine
your
street
with
no
cars
on
it.
B
You
know
what
could
you
do
with
that
space
between
the
buildings
there's
so
much?
We
can
do
this
just
gives
you
a
flavor,
I'm
not
saying
that
this
is
all
going
to
happen
at
northeast
cambridge,
but
it
just
gives
you
a
flavor
of
actually
there
are
so
much
there
are
so
much
possibilities
of
what
we
can
do
in
between
buildings
in
these
spaces.
B
And
then
biodiversity,
so
the
plan
seeks
to
achieve
a
10
biodiversity
net
gain,
which
is
what
the
government
is
requiring
new
development
to
do
as
part
of
the
forthcoming
environment
bill.
And
so
that's
really
about
embedding
biodiversity
and
design
of
all
buildings
and
streets
from
the
very
very
beginning
and
improvements
in
size,
quality
diversity,
as
well
as
the
relationship
of
the
site's
habitats
as
well,
with
each
other's
and
those
around
it,
and
we're
seeking
to
protect
and
enhance
as
much
of
the
biodiversity
in
the
site
as
possible.
B
And
that
includes
things
like
the
cowley
roach
hedgerow,
which
most
people
don't
know
about.
But
is
a
you
know,
a
real
possible
contender
as
a
city
wildlife
site
and
securing
appropriate
mitigation
and
habitat
management
monitoring
through
legal
agreements
as
well.
A
So
we're
just
going
to
go
through
a
few
of
the
questions
that
people
have
been
asking
on
social
media
and
so
forth
recently
about
open
spaces
and
biodiversity.
Before
we
come
on
to
all
of
your
q
and
a's,
which
I
can't
remember
who's,
taking
this
first
question,
actually,
what
open
spaces
will
the
public
be
able
to
access
is
obviously
really
important?
One
that
terry
has
platform.
C
I
think
it's
me
actually
thanks.
Hannah
yeah,
so
terry's
run
through
pretty
much
the
sort
of
strategic
open
spaces
that
will
be
available,
so
the
linear
park,
the
triangle
site
around
cowley
road,
the
civic
spaces
around
the
the
station
and
also
in
the
district
center
that
we're
proposing,
as
well
as
the
green
spaces
that
are
already
in
the
science
park.
So
those
are
big
strategic,
open
spaces
that
are
available
to
the
public,
but
at
a
at
the
next
level.
Down.
C
Things
like
that
which
will
sit
at
that
next
layer
down
that'll
all
be
publicly
available
as
well
before
you
get
down
to
sort
of
the
site
level
where
you
expect
to
have
private
amenity
space
and
and
gardens
like
that,
but
even
within
that
it
may
be
that
some
of
those
open
spaces,
the
private
ones,
could
be
open
during
the
day
for
most
people
to
walk
through
to
connect
up
to
different
places,
and
it
may
be
that
they
just
closed
at
night.
For
security
purposes,.
A
Another
question
that
actually,
we
were
doing
an
in-person
consultation
in
sway,
and
some
people
were
asking
about
this
as
well.
How
things
connect
outside
of
the
area
action
plan
area.
G
I
think
terry's
touched
on
this
already,
there's
going
to
be
a
green
infrastructure
strategy
that
a
strategic
level
that's
going
to
be
developed,
which
this
site
will
link
into
so
as
as
part
of
as
part
of
that,
the
site's
already
going
to
be,
as
terry's
already
alluded
to
it's,
going
to
link
to
milton
county
park,
we're
gonna
and
obviously
chest
and
fend
as
well,
and
then
the
the
wider
river
corridor
and
the
chisholm
trail
going
going
further
further
up.
G
So
there's
already
identified
connections
in
place,
we're
looking
at
other
potential
connections,
sort
of
histone
side
of
the
site
as
well,
and
you
know,
and
then
obviously
connecting
the
site
into
to
existing.
G
G
The
strategic
open
spaces
anyway,
are
going
to
form
a
strategic
function
within
nec
area,
as
well
as
as
a
wider
as
a
wider
network.
You
know,
through
the
green
infrastructure
strategy.
A
E
Yeah,
so
we
were
very
lucky
that
mk
air
ecology
produced
a
biodiversity
assessment
of
the
entire
area
which
they
published
in
february
of
this
year,
so
they've
actually
gone
through
everywhere
and
had
a
look
to
see
what
we've
got,
and
I
think
the
answer
is
surprisingly
more
than
you
would
think
in
an
area
that's
actually
as
built
up
as
it
is.
So
there
are
areas
of
woodland,
the
largest
being
sort
of
between
the
water
treatment
plant
and
the
a14
and
the
northeast
of
the
site.
E
E
We
also
have
places
like
brutal
reservation
vegetation,
so
things
like
brambles
and
nettles,
and
things
like
that,
where
you
get
lots
of
different
butterflies,
there's
also
areas
of
of
ponds,
and
I
think
probably
the
more
important
one.
One
of
the
more
important
ones
is
the
public
first
drain.
So
that
is
a
wet
drain
that
has
been
running.
You
know
through
that
area
for
a
very
long
time,
it's
got
a
lot
of
associated
species
to
it,
especially
things
like
waterfall
that
are
in
the
area.
So
again,
it's
very
important
for
biodiversity.
E
The
the
hedgerows
that
have
been
mentioned
are
actually
really
important,
because
they've
been
around
for
a
long
time.
They
are
from
what
I
understand.
They're
remnants
of
the
original
field
system,
hedgerows
that
were
left
in
places
as
cambridge
sort
of
was
expanded
and
built
up
around
them,
so
they
are
very
important
and
then
even
things
like
the
the
buildings
themselves
can
become
habitats.
We
have
lots
of
birds
and
bats
that
will
live
inside
of
those
buildings,
so
there
is
actually
sort
of
more
habitats
that
you
would
think
would
be
there.
E
You
know
on
first
glance
around
the
outside
we've
got.
Probably
my
most
important
area
would
be
things
like.
The
river
camp,
which
runs
quite
close
by
the
river
camp
itself,
is
a
protected
area.
It's
a
local,
a
county
wildlife
site
and
obviously
chesterton
fenn,
which
is
next
door,
which
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
use
as
a
as
almost
like,
a
receptor
site
to
help
really
boost
biodiversity
in
the
area.
G
Hannah
sorry,
I
was
also
going
to
add
the
area.
That's
going
to
form
part
of
the
bund
that
for
the
the
a14
noise
barrier,
we're
looking
at
possibilities
of
how
that
can
be
multi-functional,
as
well
as
not
not
just
for
noise
attenuation,
but
also
for
habitat
creation,
for
green
infrastructure
wildlife,
corridor
link
links
as
well.
So
I'll
just
mention
that
fantastic.
A
Thanks,
I'm
just
gonna
stop
my
share
now
and
I
can
see
some
questions
connecting
in
here.
So
first
question
air
is
connecting
to
you
did
not
mention
the
mere
way.
That's
true
actually,
and
that
is
a
really
important
connection
that
we're
going
to
be
using
for
northeast
cambridge.
I
wonder
if
anyone
wants
to.
Maybe
would
terry
like
to
talk
to
that,
because
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
around
that.
B
Yeah,
no
absolutely
yeah
so
mira
way
is
a
really
important
route
going
north,
particularly
with
the
cycle
improvements
that
begin
to
be
coming
through
there
as
part
of
the
water,
beach
development,
so
yeah,
so
that
will
also
act
as
a
really
important
route
for
people
to
access
the
wider
countryside
so
yeah.
No,
absolutely
so!
Apologies!
I
didn't
mention
in
the
presentation
but
yeah
that
is,
that
is
part
of
the
plan
as
well.
A
I
think
one
of
the
other
things
with
the
connectivity
is
that
it's
not
just
the
sort
of,
if
you
like
the
green
network
connectivity,
there
is
also
the
street
level
connectivity
and
things
like
the
guided
bus
way,
though
at
the
moment,
a
real
barrier
to
movement.
A
F
Okay,
thank
you.
Well,
I
don't
think
we've
necessarily
looked
in
sort
of
detail
of
how
actual
individual
sites
might
interact,
but
I
think
we
would
look
to
make
sure
that
the
current
site
any
of
the
the
new
development
integrates
with
local
communities.
F
So
I
think,
where
there's
opportunities
to
work
with
what
it
already
exists
on
the
periphery
will
take
full
advantage
of,
but
clearly
that
will
be
nearer
that
time
when
perhaps
more
detailed
proposals
are
put
forward.
F
But
clearly
the
intention
is
to
integrate
the
new
development
northeast
cambridge
with
the
existing
communities
all
around
and
working
with
allotment
holders,
perhaps,
and
who
managed
them
will
be
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
Does
anybody
else
want
to
yeah.
G
Yeah,
just
sorry,
how
are
you
going
greg?
I
was
just
going
to
quickly
say:
there's
going
to
be
there's
going
to
be
some
legibility
with
the
the
aap
work
as
well,
so
where,
where
you
know
we're
not
necessarily
potentially
creating
physical
connection,
new
physical
connections
to,
for
example,
the
allotments
there
will
certainly
be
you
know:
whole
scale,
legibility,
signage
improvements
throughout
the
site,
so
you
can
understand
and
understand
the
scale
as
well
of
where,
where
facilities
like
the
allotments
are
from
from
various
places
in
the
site.
C
Yeah-
and
I
was
just
going
to
add
that
we
obviously
included
the
allotment
site
when
we
went
out
to
issues
and
options-
consultation
in
terms
of
the
boundary
of
the
aap
area,
but
we
recognized
that
actually
all
we
were
seeking
to
do
through
the
aap
was
to
protect
that,
so
it
was
actually
better
to
take
it
out.
We
don't
want
that
site
developed
at
all.
We
want
to
maintain
and
protected
as
allotments
it's
really
important
to
that
local
community
and
it
will
be
important
to
to
new
residents
as
well
within
north
camp.
A
Thanks
matt,
I
was
wondering
if
one
thing
we
actually
didn't
touch
on
too
much
was
we
touched
on
the
connectivity
to
milton
county
park,
but
we
didn't
touch
on
some
of
the
discussions
with
milton
county
park,
and
I
know
that
has
been
raised
by
some
people
as
well
in
terms
of
the
capacity
of
milton
county
park,
wonder
if
we
might
be
able
to
just
clarify
a
bit
on
that
for
the
audience
here
today.
C
Yeah,
that's
fine
I'll
deal
with
this
one
yeah,
so
we
have
we've
been
engaging
with
the
milton
country
park
for
a
long
time
on
the
aap.
Obviously
we
are
all
sensitive
to
the
existing
pressures
that
it
parks
under
in
terms
of
meeting
needs
and
demands
at
time,
and
we've
talked
obviously
with
the
surrounding
local
communities
and
who
utilize
that
park
significantly
and
that's
one
of
their
concerns
too.
C
But
they
also
see
the
benefits
of
having
better
access,
more
sustainable
access
to
that
park
to
be
able
to
access
it
more
frequently
as
well
and
not
just
by
driving
but
walking.
Cycling
will
be
a
huge
benefit
and
then
we're
talking
to
the
park
mainly
about
how
we
we're
obviously
seeking
to
provide
sufficient
open
space
on
site.
C
But
it
is
a
regional
park
and
therefore
is
available
to
all
residents
within
the
greater
cambridge
area
to
come
and
utilize
that
area
so
we're
talking
to
them
about
how
we
could
potentially
look
at
ways
and
means
of
increasing
capacity
within
that
through
the
facilities
provided
through
different
management
regimes,
as
well
for
the
park
to
enable
that
to
take
place.
C
But
I
think
again,
it's
it's
open
at
the
moment
to
look
at
and
work
with
them
to
determine
and
the
wider
community
to
determine
what
is
the
best
outcome
for
the
regional
park
and
ensure
it
is
maximized
in
terms
of
its
use.
But
we
also
protect
it
in
terms
of
its
its
value
as
a
as
a
wildlife
site,
and
here
an
open
space.
A
Thanks
to
some
questions-
and
I
hope
everyone
knows
how
to
do
that-
but
I've
just
had
a
question
about
how
can
people
feed
in
their
ideas
for
creative
uses
of
open
space?
Well.
This
is
a
really
good
question
because
of
course,
this
is
what
we're
doing
at
the
moment.
With
the
consultation
itself.
A
We
really
want
to
hear
as
many
views
as
possible
on
what
we
should
be,
including
these
are
draft
policies,
and
these
are
draft
ideas
at
this
stage,
so
they're
very
much
things
that
we're
going
to
be
evaluating
in
light
of
the
comments
that
we
receive,
you
can
comment
online,
so
we
have
an
online
comment
system
at
greatercambridgeplanning.org
nec
and
you
can
go
there
and
have
a
look,
and
you
can
also
email
us
and
we'll
be
posting
the
details
of
the
email
address
and
so
forth
at
the
end
of
this.
C
Yeah
and
just
to
add
to
it
I
mean
we
are
looking
at
really
innovative
approaches
for
nec
erie
took
us
through
some
of
the
examples
of
things
we're
looking
at
that
other
schemes
have
provided,
and
we
are
looking
for
ideas
from
anyone
and
we're
very
open
to
those
ideas.
C
We're
still
a
draft
plan
stage,
so
it's
people's
chance
to
influence
the
the
plan
significantly,
and
certainly
we
understand
even
with
covert
19,
that
how
we
utilize
and
how
we
appreciate
and
value
open
spaces
is
really
key,
and
we
have
to
look
at
innovative
ways
of
how
a
how
we
provide
it,
but
also
how
we
utilize
it
and
make
efficient
use
of
that
asset
and
resource
for
the
city.
F
Can
I
just
add
that
we're
really
keen
to
also
up
the
health
and
well-being
agenda
for
nec?
So
again,
we
feel
like
the
open
space
is
a
key
opportunity
to
help
encourage
people
to
lead
healthier
lifestyles,
and
it's
basically-
and
it's
not
just
like
a
seasonal
option
where
open
spaces
which
perhaps
only
encourage
their
use
during
the
good
bit
the
better
weather.
But
we
want
really
open
spaces
to
be
those
which
can
be
used
all
year
round.
So,
for
example,
there
the
tracks
don't
are
susceptible
to
being
muddy
when
there's
been
heavy
rains.
F
So
we
are
keen
to
get
people's
ideas
on
how
we
can
encourage
people
to
lead
healthier
lifestyles,
open
spaces
which
encourage
people
to
use
them.
People
leave
lead
very
sort
of
how
should
I
say,
people's
nine
to
five
routine
is
often
not
not
not
not
not
kind
of
something
we
do
these
days,
people
work
hard
hours
want
to
do
open
space
or
activities
first
in
the
morning
late
at
night.
A
E
Yeah,
absolutely
so
I
mean
the
the
10
net
gain
is:
is
a
bare
minimum,
so
I
mean
it's
absolutely
possible
to
go
beyond
that.
If
we
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
city
deal
projects,
some
of
the
transport
hubs
that
are
being
looked
at
at
the
moment
proposed.
What
they
are
saying
is
they
will
have
a
minimum
10
percent,
but
they're
actually
targeting
20.
E
Now
this
is
what
we
would
call
measurable
net
gain,
so
this
is
net
gain
in
terms
of
provision
of
habitats.
Now
there
are
other
types
of
ecological
and
biodiversity
enhancements
that
we
can
actually
include.
That
would
not
be
included
within
that
10
percent
category,
so
things
like
having
habitat
boxes,
having
roosting
boxes,
having
nesting
boxes
having
log
piles
or
hedgehog
holes
in
in
in
fences
or
things
like
that
will
all
add
to
the
biodiversity
area,
although
it
may
not
necessarily
be
measured
in
the
same
way.
E
A
E
Absolutely
sure
so
it
is
a
little
bit
complicated.
I
I'll
try
not
to
be
too
specific,
so
we
have
what
we
would
call
matrices
or
calculations
that
we
can
undertake
and
it
gives
a
value
to
certain
habitats,
so
those
habitats
are
valued
on
their
diversity,
on
their
contribution
to
species
and
so
on.
So,
for
example,
an
amenity
graston.
So
just
a
grass
in
the
field
with
grassnet
has
a
lower
value
than
a
wildflower
meadow,
so
they
are
measured
differently.
E
Defra
have
been
going
through
several
iterations
of
these
calculations.
The
latest
calculation
is
in
beta
mode.
It's
called
the
defrometric
2.0,
it's
very
cool.
If
you're,
if
you're
a
bit
of
a
nerd
like
me,
then
you'll
really
love
it.
There
are
other
matrices
available
as
well
just
in
case
so
warwickshire
county
council
have
their
own
matrix
and
also
there's
an
organization
called
the
environment
bank
was
used
in
other
matrix
as
well,
so
they
are
they're
very
similar,
but
they
have
slightly
different
underlying
assumptions,
but
all
are
valid
in
certain
ways.
A
That
was
a
really
good
answer.
Thank
you
very
much.
Another
question
that
has
been
asked
recently
is
a
very
simple
one.
Will
there
be
space
to
kick
a
ball
about
terry?
I
wonder
if
you
you
might
answer
that
one.
B
Yeah
sure
yeah,
yes,
like
I
said
so,
some
of
these
strategic
open
spaces
that
we're
proposing
you
know
they
are.
They
are
large
and
when
you,
when
you
sort
of
combine
all
of
those
spaces
together,
then
you
know,
like
I
said,
there's
25
26
hectares
of
open
space
in
total
that
we're
proposing
just
at
that
higher
level,
not
included
in
those
sort
of
neighborhood
spaces.
So
absolutely
plus,
like
I
was
saying
you
know,
we
need
to
rethink
the
street
as
well
and
think
about
how
you
know
how
people
use
those
spaces.
B
You
know,
I
remember,
being
a
child
with
you
know
quite
normal
to
kick
up
all
about
in
the
street,
but
you
know
these
days.
You
can't
because
you
know
you've
got
so
much
on
street
car
parking
and
you
know,
and
all
that
kind
of
thing,
so
yeah,
absolutely
there's
and
also
obviously
you
know,
all
of
the
schools
will
come
with
their
own
play
facilities
as
well,
and
you
know
it's
really
standard
practice
these
days
to
make
sure
that
schools
have
community
use
agreements
tied
into
them.
B
C
Yeah
and
just
just
to
add
to
that
I
mean
we
are
like,
I
said,
we're
looking
at
innovative
ways
so,
instead
of
providing
you
know,
four
say
four
soccer
pitches
grass
soccer
pitches,
we
might
look
at
putting
in
3g
pitches,
which
you
can
you
can
use
more
often
don't
require
the
same
amount
of
maintenance
can
put
flood
lighting
on,
can
split
up
as
well.
So
it
just
ensures
that
actually,
you
can
utilize
a
smaller
amount
of
space
and
get
twice
as
much
use
out
of
it
for
the
local
community.
A
Thanks
matt,
that's
really
interesting.
Just
in
terms
of
chesterton
we've
sort
of
talked
about
this
area
quite
a
bit
in
terms
of
access.
What
do
we
think
it's
actually
going
to
be
useful,
because
I
know
that
we've
also
talked
about
it
in
terms
of
flood
resilience
and
and
water
storage
as
well-
and
I
know
that's
something
that
people
are
quite
interested
in.
B
Yeah,
I
can
take
that
one
yeah,
so
justin
vent
it.
Obviously
it's
it's
by
the
river
it's
within
the
flood
plain,
so
it's
really
important
that
you
know
we
aren't
putting
football
pitches
and
such
like
on
that
area,
because
that
wouldn't
really
be
appropriate.
So
what
we're
saying
is
that
you
can
create
informal
emergency
space
on
that
area.
B
So
you
know
the
sort
of
place
where
you
know
people
can
go
and
walk
their
dog
and
you
know
have
a
picnic
that
kind
of
thing,
but
it's
also
a
place
where
we
think
that
we
can
create
some
real
private
biodiversity
improvements
as
well
really
trying
to
draw
in
the
river
the
river
corridor
and
it
really
being
that
kind
of
link
between
the
river
and
the
site
and
northeast
cambridge,
and
so
you
know,
there's
real
real
chance
for
biodiversity
improvements
in
that
area,
so
yeah.
B
So
there's
a
bit
of
a
mixture.
Really,
the
ecologists
are
saying
that
you
know
because
of
the
flooding
issues
that
there
are
in
parts
of
that
area.
You
know
you
could
you
could
really
create
like
almost
a
wetland
in
places
with
you
know,
sort
of
wetland
habitats
and
that
kind
of
thing,
so
there
is
so
much
scope
to
do
to
do
some
real,
real
good
immunity
and
biodiversity
and
improvements
in
that
area.
D
A
Question
that
has
been
asked
quite
a
bit
about
the
thing:
that's
technically
known,
as
so
sustainable
drainage
systems
and
how
that
counts,
with
the
open
space
areas
that
we
are
giving
in
the
plans
terry.
I
know
that
you've
been
quite
good
on
this
in
the
past.
Maybe
you
want
to
just
explain
how
that
works.
B
We
do
yeah,
so
the
the
sustainable
urban
drainage
systems
or
suds.
They
don't
count
as
your
open
space
because
essentially
they're
you
know
their
waterways
and
ill.
You
know
they
they
use
for
water
storage,
so
they
don't
count,
but
the
it's
really
important
that
they
are
part
of
that
landscaping,
so
they're
fully
integrated
within
those
open
spaces.
So
it's
not
just
a
case
of
creating
channels
under
the
ground
and
storage
tanks
under
the
ground,
actually
they've
become
a
feature,
so
they
link
into
the
first
public
drain.
B
You
know
you
could
have
swales,
you
could
have
attenuation
ponds.
That
kind
of
thing,
so
you
know,
there's
real
scope
to
make
sure
that
you
know
these
drainage
systems
are
part
of
the
landscape,
but
not
part
of
the
open
space
numbers
so
yeah.
So
there's
a
lot.
There's
a
lot
of
scope
there
to
bring
it
together
and
what
the
plan
is
seeking
to
do
is
trying
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
coordinated
approach
to
suds
as
well.
B
So
it's
not
just
that
piecemeal,
but
you
know
where
one
developer
does
one
thing
and
one
developer
does
another
thing.
You
know
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
have
a
suds
network
for
northeast
cambridge
overall
as
well,
which
is
really
important.
G
And,
and
also
biodiversity
in
that
game
as
a
standard
for
the
natural
I've
just.
A
Had
a
question
about
more
about
the
sports
provision:
kicking
a
board
about
is
fine
on
informal
space,
but
many
sports
need
formal
space
that
cannot
go
on
a
3g
pitch
like
tennis,
croquet
cricket
and
hockey.
I
think
matt.
Maybe
you
can
answer
that
because
you
were
talking
about
the
3d
3g
pitch
question.
C
Yeah,
I
think
the
3g
was
just
the
kickball
around
one,
but
certainly
you'll
have
tennis
courts
within
the
areas,
in
particular
we're
looking
at
even
innovation
for
tennis
courts
having
them
on
top
of
say
you
could
have
them
on
top
of
a
car
park
and
things
like
that
so
innovative
ways
of
providing
them,
but
you'll
have
traditional
tennis,
courts
and
the
like,
in
terms
of
bigger
spaces,
for
like
cricket
and
and
even
hockey,
facilities
and
things
like
that.
C
We're
doing
the
open
spaces
strategy
as
part
of
the
local
plan,
and
we
need
to
understand,
what's
required
for
nec,
but
what's
required
for
northeast
cambridge.
More
generally,
so
we're
looking
at,
obviously,
if
you're
going
to
provide
a
hockey
purchase
a
better
hair
or
is
it
somewhere
else
that
meets
a
wider
need
of
a
much
wider
community.
A
C
Yeah
definitely
so
they've
got
multi-use
games,
areas
out
the
back
and
things
like
that,
and
certainly
there's
scope
within
the
science
park
as
well
to
provide
further
community
facilities.
C
That
would
be
available
for
leisure
needs
of
the
workers
during
the
day
and
potentially
residents
and
others
during
the
day
evening,
and
that
would
serve
both
new
houses
on
the
other
side
of
milwaukee,
but
also
with
the
connections
and
links
that
we're
looking
to
make
with
king's
hedges
and
milton
and
others
would
bring
actually
community
onto
the
science
park
to
make
use
of
those
facilities
as
well.
A
I
know
that
the
cambridge
tree
strategy
is
really
the
one
that
we
are
adopting
in
terms
of
the
standards
and
approach
to
canopy
cover
and
increasing
tree
coverage
across
the
area
for
climate
reasons,
as
well
as
other
things,
but
maybe
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
bruce
or
greg
maybe
would
speak
to
him
or
dan.
Maybe
who
would
say
why
don't
dan
talk
to
that?
I
think
you
know
about
trees,
though.
E
I
I
luckily
I
I
have
been
sitting
next
to
the
tree
officer
for
some
time
in
the
office
a
little
bit.
I
think
it's
it's
it's
it's
along
the
lines
of
getting
the
right
trees
in
the
right
places
and
making
sure
that
they
are
going
to
survive
where
they
are.
So
it's
it's.
You
do
quite
often
come
across
some
developments,
the
pro
that
plant,
inappropriate
trees
and
inappropriate
places.
E
So
I
think,
given
the
space
that
we
have,
especially
in
the
open
spaces
and
in
those
large
green
streets
being
able
to
plant
larger
trees
in
those
areas,
you
know
will
be
really
really
beneficial.
Obviously
they
can
help
with
things
like
pollution
and
might
be
taking
microbes
out
of
the
air.
It
can
help
with
urban
cooling.
They
can
help
with
shading
as
well.
So
I
think
the
more
we
can
sort
of
introduce
trees
into
the
into
the
area,
the
the
healthier
it's
going
to
be
for
everybody.
A
Thanks
very
much
there's
some
some
people
have
been
asking
online
about
whether
open
spaces
will
be
while
letting
it
safe
years
at
night
and
there's
obviously
always
a
crossover
here.
Isn't
there
between
the
wildlife
and
dark
skies
issues
and
making
sure
that
they
are
safe
and
well
used
in
terms
of
being
good
roots
matt,
maybe
you
would
speak
to
that.
C
Yeah
yeah
happy
too
yeah.
I
mean
primarily
we're
looking
at
a
network
of
green
spaces
that
provide
your
connections,
really
your
walking
and
strategic
cycling
connections
to
get
to
your
places.
So
they
all
need
to
be
available
throughout
the
day
in
the
evening
and
into
the
night,
and
they
need
to
be
well
lit
and
overlooked
and
well
managed,
and
so
certainly
on
those
areas.
Yes,
beyond
those
you'll
have
private
amenity
spaces
as
well.
C
Where,
obviously
again
you
know
you'll,
you
expect
to
have
a
level
of
security
on
those
two
and
a
level
of
overlooking,
and
and
but
certainly
where
we
have
areas
of
biodiversity.
We.
We
would
hope
that
those
are
not
lit
if
you
like,
the
darker
areas
for
the
bats
and
the
others
and
they're
just
natural
habitats
and
and
during
the
day,
they'll
provide
fantastic
amenity
and,
during
the
evening,
obviously
screening
and
things
like
that
from
from
other
light
pollution.
C
But
you
know
you'll
get
a
combination,
but
for
the
vast
majority
of
areas
that
are
the
main
thoroughfares
that
are
the
key
cycle
and
walking
connections,
they
should
be
very
safe
and
secure,
and
everyone
should
feel-
and
hopefully
very
active
and
live
as
well
in
terms
of
what
we're
providing
within
the
area-
and
you
know
you
should
have
kids
playing
in
the
streets
and
people
walking
around
so
it
should
be
should
be,
should
feel
very
safe
for
all
of
those
in
the
community.
A
Thanks,
I
was
wondering
sometimes,
management
of
open
spaces
is
something
that
comes
up
as
a
real
issue
in
developments
like
this,
you
know
who's
actually
going
to
run
them
in
the
long
term
and
what
those
agreements
might
look
like.
Obviously
this
is
really
early
days
and
this
is
a
20-year
plan,
so
we
definitely
know
that
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
on
this,
but
have
there
been
any
initial
discussions
about
some
of
that
stuff
across
with
the
landowners
and
so
forth?.
C
Yeah
we
have
we've
been
in
discussions.
Obviously,
ideally
I
mean,
as
as
we've
said
it
it's
going
to
take
a
long
time
to
build
out
nec
and
it'll
be
very
much
a
phase
development
across
different
land
parcels
and
therefore
the
responsibility
will
fall
to
the
developers
in
the
first
instance
or
the
landowners
to
manage
that
those
open
spaces
get
them
well
established,
really
well
utilized,
get
all
the
facilities
and
and
and
then
we're
looking
at,
obviously
them
contributing
towards
the
long-term
maintenance
of
those
parks.
C
If
astan
says,
we
need
the
right
species
in
the
right
places
in
terms
of
the
trees
to
make
sure
that
actually,
the
the
levels
of
maintenance
aren't
huge
in
terms
of
being
drought,
resistant
and
all
the
other
things
so,
but
we
they
still
will
need
ongoing
management
maintenance
to
ensure
that
they're
fit
for
purpose,
and
so
we're
looking
at
how
the
developments
within
there
and
the
users
may
contribute
towards
that.
C
And
it
may
be
that,
once
the
development's
complete,
the
councils
will
look
at
either
taking
that
over
or
it
could
be
that
a
management
company,
a
body
corporation
of
the
whole
area,
takes
takes
on
that
because
it
may
be
associated
with
things
like
the
management
of
the
sustainable
drainage
system
as
well.
How
that's
kept
because
we
need
to
keep
that
up
to
date
as
well,
in
terms
of
its
management
to
ensure
that
it
does
what
it's
meant
to
do.
C
Obviously,
we're
looking
at
doing
transport
hubs
around
the
area,
so
they
need
management
ongoing
as
well
about
how
you
ensure
that
different
sites
contribute
towards
those
and
people
have
a
good
access
to
those
facilities,
and
so
there's
a
raft
of
management
across
the
piece,
and
it
may
be
that
it
might
not
just
seem
to
fall
to
the
councils
to
do.
But
it
could
be
under
a
body
court
and
it
could
be
actually
community
managed.
So
you
know
a
residence
association-led
kind
of
body
that
that
take
take
the
lead
on
that.
A
C
Yeah
yeah
often
it
can
be
the
case,
but
we're
kind
of
in
a
really
lucky
position
in
northeast
cambridge
and
the
vast
majority
of
landowners
aren't
in
it
just
to
do
a
development
and
then
leave
you've
got
the
likes
of
the
council
and
trinity,
and
crown
and
the
science
parking
john's
all
have
a
vested
interest,
a
long,
long
term
vested
interest
in
these
sites
and
then
the
area
as
a
whole
and
therefore
they
want
and
need
to
see
ongoing
management
to
realize
the
for
their
own
selfish
means.
C
I
mean
the
the
strategic
financial
benefits
at
the
end
of
the
day
of
leasing
properties
and
and
getting
new
tenants
into
some
of
these
science
buildings
and
other
things
and
making
the
area
nice
so
that
workers
want
to
come
and
work
here
and
people
want
to
live
here.
So
I
think,
we're
very
confident
and
that
we
also
understand
it's
going
to
take
a
long
time
to
build
out.
C
A
Suppose
more
broadly,
this
is
really
why
we're
doing
the
area
action
plan
in
the
first
place.
Isn't
it
because
we
do
need
these
specific
policies,
so
we
can
hold
developers
to
a
vision
without
a
coordinated
policy.
It
might
be
that
we
wouldn't
have
enough
teeth,
as
it
were,
to
to
control
that
development.
Would
you
say
that
was
the
case
matt.
C
Yeah
yeah
sure
I
was
taking
it
more
from
the
the
management
maintenance
side
of
the
open
spaces,
but
yeah.
No,
certainly
the
the
overarching
purpose
of
why
we're
doing
an
aap
is
to
set
out
what
the
council
and
community's
expectations
are
for
development
here,
and
certainly
we
again
that
long
build
out
process
enables
us
to
ensure
that
actually
we
get
significant
compliance,
because
if
they
don't
comply,
the
first
time
around
we're
unlikely
to
give
them
planning
permission
again
for
the
next
part
of
their
phase
development.
C
A
Thing,
I
would
say
just
from
the
consultation
perspective,
is
that
if
you
gave
me
some
of
these
ideas
seem
excellent.
Please
tell
us
that
in
the
consultation,
because
the
more
we
hear
from
you
support
for
some
of
these
ideas,
the
more
evidence
we
have
to
put
into
the
area
action
plan
going
forward
and
to
put
to
those
developers
to
say
these
ideas
really
are
well
supported
by
the
community.
A
So
please,
please
a
little
bit
of
a
plug
for
our
consultation,
but
please,
please
do
write
to
us
online
or
in
paper
form
and
tell
us
which
of
the
ideas
you
think
are
excellent,
as
well
as
the
ones
that
she
could
do
better
on.
I
think
joe
is
actually
just
gonna
on
that
point
and
start
to
share
some
of
the
details
of
that
consultation.
So
you
can
have
a
look
so.
A
A
We've
got
four
more
webinars
coming
up
on
different
aspects
of
north
east
cambridge
area
action
plan,
and
you
can
see
the
website
address
at
the
bottom
there,
where
you
can
find
those
details
and
then
these
other
details
for
the
website,
the
email
address
and
all
the
other
details
for
you
to
be
able
to
get
in
touch
with
us,
and
if
you
want
any
paper
copies
of
things
as
well.
Please
just
drop
us
a
line
or
give
us
a
ring
and
we'll
get
them
through
to
you.
A
I've
got
a
a
a
question.
That's
actually
just
come
up
on
the
back
of
your
management
points
matt
around,
oh
well
with.
If,
if
I
suppose
I
should
say
a
little
cheap
with
the
coming
unitary
well,
it's
obviously
not
a
unitary
on
the
table
yet,
but
there
are
so
we
don't
know
that.
Would
a
parish
council
for
the
area
be
the
right
place
to
focus
the
management?
I
think
it's
a
really
interesting
question
about.
A
We
have
a
community
forum
that
has
been
informing
development
in
the
area
and
that
comprises
representatives
from
the
residents
associations
in
the
area
and
so
forth,
and
we
are
actually
talking
about
what
the
legacy
for
that
community
forum
might
be
going
forward.
As
matt
says,
does
it
have
a
role
in
management
and
maintenance
of
the
spaces?
A
How
do
they
get
involved
and
we
will
we
will
see
where
that
comes
in?
I
don't
know
if
matt
you
want
to
add
anything
more
to
some
of
those
sort
of
structural
questions.
C
Yeah,
I
think
initially,
I
don't
know
that
a
parish
council
would
be
the
right
approach,
mainly
because
it
it
will
be
a
long
time
before
we
get
to
a
state
where
actually
we
want
to
take
it
out
of
the
developers
hands
if
you
like,
and
in
that
context,
I
think
it
would
be
useful
more
so
to
have
sort
of
the
new
community
coming
into
the
area
to
influence
how
they
wish
the
area
to
be
managed
and
maintained,
and
having
that
dialogue
with
the
developers
up
front
and
and
with
the
surrounding
communities
as
well
kings,
hedges,
which
are
well
established
and
have
good
networks
in
terms
of
their
residence
associations
and
others
being
involved
in
a
sort
of
a
committee
sort
of
process,
really
that
that
has
oversight
over
the
management
arrangements
and
works
with
the
councils
and
with
the
developers
to
get
it
all
right
really
and
and
see
how
far
we
can
get.
A
A
comment
that
orchard
park
shows
that
parish,
council
could
be
a
good
approach.
C
Yeah
yeah:
well
we
we're
taking
the
lessons
learned
from
all
of
the
schemes
around,
so
we
are
learning
from
the
what?
What
are
the
issues
that
orchard
park
and
that
tends
to
be
around
parking
mainly
and
things
like
that
and
and
but
certainly
management
of
some
of
the
spaces.
So
we
need
to
look
and
have
at
it
holistically
as
well
and
just
see
what
what
is
the
best
approach,
whether
that's
a
council,
their
community
led
or
whether
it's
it's
parish.
A
Well,
the
thing
is:
it's
certainly
going
to
be
one
that
you
know
again.
We
would
welcome
your
views
on
through
the
consultation,
because
it
is
a
long
term
scheme
and
we
do
need
to
try
and
work
with
the
community
to
find
something
that
works
for
everybody
in
the
area
and
not
just
what
we
think
will
be
best.
So
please,
please
do
respond
to
us
on
the
consultation
and
do
check
out
our
website
as
well,
where
there
are
a
lot
more
faqs
and
some
videos
and
so
forth
as
well.
A
So
thanks
very
much
to
everybody,
I
hope
that's
been
interesting
and
you've
got
some
of
the
answers
to
some
some
of
the
things
that
you're
interested
in
we
will.
We
will
obviously
be
reading
up
on
all
of
the
responses
we
get
through.
The
consultation
please
respond
between
now
and
the
5th
of
october.
That
is
the
deadline
for
responses.
A
We've
got
to
get
on
with
the
plan
and
we've
got
feedback
on
that
to
to
yourselves
as
a
community
and
also
to
the
elective
members
and
so
forth,
and
we
really
really
value
everything
that
comes
in.
So.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Also
to
all
the
panel
members
and
we'll
be
putting
this
up
on
our
youtube
channel.
A
So
if
you
have
been
watching
and
you
think
any
of
your
friends
or
neighbors
or
communities
may
be
interested
in
watching
it
back,
you
can
check
it
out
on
our
youtube
channel,
along
with
lots
of
other
great
content.
I
do
feel
a
little
bit
like
a
tv
presenter,
but
there
you
go
and
we'll
see
you
at
the
next
one
soon.