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A
Thanks
to
everybody
for
coming
today,
we
are
going
to
be
talking
about
walking
and
cycling,
and
connectivity
and
transport
generally
today,
I'm
just
firstly
going
to
just
introduce
all
the
fantastic
team
members
that
we've
got
here
today
from
from
various
parts
of
our
service
and
in
fact
not
just
our
service
today,
who
are
going
to
be
here
to
answer
all
of
your
questions
and
then
I'll
do
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping,
but
first
just
to
introduce
everybody.
B
D
Claire
hello,
everyone,
I'm
claire
spencer
senior
planning
policy
officer
in
the
great
cambridge
chair
planning
team,
also
been
part
of
preparing
the
area
action
plan.
Thanks
claire.
F
Good
afternoon,
everyone
I'm
sarah
hatcher,
I'm
one
of
the
office
officers
from
the
transport
strategy
team
at
cambridge,
county
council
and
I've
been
helping
the
shared
planning
service
and
colleagues
on
the
call
today,
with
the
development
of
the
transport
side
of
the
plan.
A
A
A
Just
so
you
know
it
is
being
recorded
today
and
we
do
put
these
up
on
youtube
afterwards,
so
that
anyone
who
couldn't
attend
today,
for
whatever
reason,
can
watch
them
back.
You
are
all
invisible
and
anonymous
for
that
reason
to
protect
privacy
and
your
names
won't
be
read
out
on
screen
either.
When
we
read
out
the
questions
so
do
feel
free
to
please
start
answering
asking
any
questions
you
want,
and
you
know
we
we
will
answer
them
due
course.
A
Just
so
you
know
it
is
just
an
hour
if
we
have
questions
left
at
the
end,
please
we
don't
worry,
we
will
answer
them
online
as
well.
We
will
put
in
what
we
do
is
we
put
them
into
the
faq
page
on
our
website?
So
again
we
can
let
you
know
where
that
is
at
the
end
of
the
at
the
end
of
the
presentation.
A
So
without
further
ado
I
can
see
actually
just
one
question.
Someone
has
asked
if
their
their
speakers
are
okay.
I
hope
everyone
can
hear.
Okay,
I
see
that
one
of
the
other
attendees
has
said
they
can
I'm
sorry
if
you're
having
any
audio
difficulties.
We
do
know,
of
course,
sometimes
internet
isn't
brilliant,
but
we
will.
We
do
record
them
and
usually
the
quality
is
quite
good.
So
if
you
do
have
any
problems,
you
can
come
back
and
watch
them
back
as
well
on
youtube.
A
So
terry
is
going
to
oh
no,
oh
hold
on
a
minute.
No,
I
am
going
to
give
the
presentation
on
my
terry
apologies.
I
am
going
to
give
a
presentation
today
and
then
terry,
I
think,
he's
going
to
moderate
all
the
questions.
I've
got
all
of
our
roles
back
from
today,
I'm
going
to
just
share
my.
A
A
A
Just
for
those
of
you
who
aren't
already
quite
familiar
with
the
site,
it
is
a
really
significant
area
of
brownfield
land
in
the
northern
part
of
the
city,
and
one
of
the
things
which
we
will
obviously
be
talking
about
more
today
is
about
its
good
transport
and
accessibility
and
how
that's
going
to
improve.
That's
really
one
of
the
key
reasons
why
we
are
developing
an
area
action
plan
for
this
site,
because
it
is
such
a
fantastic
opportunity
to
create
genuinely
sustainable
development
in
a
very
accessible
part
of
the
city.
A
It
has
a
range
of
landowners.
Hence
we
do
need
this
coordinated
planning
framework,
which
is,
is
what
the
area
action
plan
will
provide,
because
it
is
this
strategically
important
site,
as
well
as
a
very
locally
important
site,
and
it
is
very
important
that
some
of
the
communities
around
northeast
cambridge,
which
are
some
of
the
more
deprived
ones
in
greater
cambridge,
are
genuinely
at
the
heart
of
this
and
do
benefit
from
the
jobs,
the
services
and
the
housing.
That's
going
to
be
created.
A
A
A
few
headline
figures
are
currently
inside
the
aap
site
boundary.
There
are
15
000
jobs
on
the
science
parks
in
the
business
parks
and
the
industrial
areas,
but
only
three
homes.
So
a
key
aim
here
is
to
rebalance
that
and
provide
more
homes
within
that
walking
and
cycling
distance
of
jobs
in
the
area.
A
There
will
also
be
more
jobs
in
the
area
as
well
we're
looking
at
intensifying
employment
in
the
site,
but
then
it
isn't
just
about
jobs
and
homes.
It
is
very
much
about
what
the
green
spaces
and
the
services
are
that
come
with
them.
There
are
over
10
hectares,
planned
large-scale
public
parks
and
squares,
and
that's
not
including
the
smaller
neighborhood
spaces
as
well.
That
will
be
creating
like
playgrounds
and
street
spaces
as
well.
A
So,
just
a
bit
about
walking,
cycling
and
reducing
car
use
in
the
plan,
it
is
really
central
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
is
so
important
and
why
this
we're
glad
to
have
you
all
here
today,
is
that
actually,
this
vision
for
sustainable
transport
is
central
to
the
plan.
We
have
put
this
at
the
heart
of
how
we've
developed
the
plan
from
day
one,
and
that
is
not
just
about
meeting
our
climate
change
commitments,
but
of
course
that
is
really
important.
That
is
also
about
the
impact
on
local
communities.
A
Milton
road
is
at
capacity
anyway,
so
we
really
can't
be
planning
for
anything
that
increases
road
traffic
along
that
as
a
key
artery.
But
really
you
know
it
is
the
right
thing
to
do.
For
so
many
reasons,
climate.
We
can't
meet
our
zero
carbon
targets
without
this
fundamental
shift
away
from
car
use
air
quality.
You
know
we
know
how
important
that
is,
and,
of
course,
covert.
A
19
has
highlighted
that
again
for
us
about
walking
and
cycling,
and
people's
health
and
well-being
in
their
own
neighborhoods,
being
so
critical
and,
of
course,
creating
a
community
that
really
feels
like
a
genuine
neighborhood.
Here,
it's
got
to
be
somewhere
that
doesn't
feel
carved
up
and
segregated
by
massive
highways
anymore.
That
actually
feels
really
well
integrated
with
its
surroundings.
A
So
you
can
see
some
of
the
sort
of
headline
measures
that
are
in
the
area
action
plan
here,
including
really
reorientating,
the
streetscape
towards
pedestrians
and
cyclists
first
and
cars
very
much
down
the
pecking
order,
improving
connections
into
surrounding
areas,
more
public
transport
as
well,
and
then
how
do
we,
control
parking
and
vehicle
movements.
A
One
of
the
key
drivers
here
is
about
everything
being
on
within
a
short,
walk
or
maybe
a
very
short
cycle,
ride
of
your
front
door
and
that's
a
very
key
measure,
because
it
means
it
reduces
the
need
to
travel
out
of
the
area
to
meet
daily
needs.
So,
if
you're
going
to
school,
if
you're
popping
to
the
shops,
if
you're
going
to
the
library,
if
you're
going
out
for
a
meal
in
the
evening,
you
shouldn't
be
needing
to
get
in
your
car
at
all.
To
do
that.
A
The
converse
of
that
is
that
we
also
don't
want
northeast
cambridge
to
be,
if
you
like,
a
destination
for
people
from
a
much
wider
area
around
the
site
which
would
create
car
trips
into
the
area.
So
this
is
about
meeting
local
needs
in
the
local
area,
not
creating
somewhere.
That
is
going
to
have
lots
of
people
wanting
to
drive
in
from
outside
of
northeast,
cambridge
or
the
surrounding
communities
and
bringing
their
cars
with
them.
A
One
of
the
key
things
is,
of
course,
that
commuting
in
and
out
of
the
area
can
be
done
by
bike,
bus
and
train
because
of
the
really
good
public
transport
that
exists
and
they're
being
improved
as
part
of
the
plan,
as
we've
mentioned
that
the
location
is
key
here.
So
you
know
it
is
15
minutes
cycle
ride
from
the
city
centre
and,
of
course,
for
things
like
the
chisholm
trail.
A
It
means
that
cycling,
north
and
south
down
down
to
the
south
of
cambridge
and
so
forth,
will
become
much
easier
as
well,
and
it
is
a
15-minute
walk
from
north
to
south
across
the
site
and
the
30-minute
walk
east
west.
So
one
of
the
things
is
at
the
moment
you
would
feel
milton
county
park
is
absolutely
miles
away
from
you
know
from
the
bus
way
and
so
forth,
because
you
have
to
cross
quite
a
lot
of
barriers
and
so
forth
to
get
there.
A
This
just
shows
some
of
those
potential
connections
that
we're
consulting
on,
and
this
is
where
it's
really
important
that
we
hear
from
you
as
well.
If
you
think
these
are
in
the
right
place,
we
need
to
hear
that
if
you
also
think
we've
got
some
of
these
things
wrong.
We
really
want
to
hear
about
that
too.
But,
as
you
can
see,
there
are
several
really
significant
connections
that
are
being
made
either
new
ones
or
improving
some
of
some
of
the
existing
ones
like
the
jane
coston
bridge.
A
So
the
jane
cotton
bridge,
for
instance,
we're
looking
at
improving
the
links
either
side
of
that,
so
that
it
becomes
as
well
used
as
it
possibly
can,
but
we're
also
looking
at
a
new
underpass
between
milton
county
park
and
the
site
itself
as
well,
so
that
the
greenway
cycle
route
down
from
water
beach
can
actually
come
into
the
site
very
seamlessly.
Under
the
a14.
A
You
can
see
that
there's
a
pedestrian
and
the
cycle
bridge
over
the
railway
line
being
proposed
to
chesterton
fence,
so
that
would
meet
up
with
the
towpath
cycle
routes.
There
better
connections
across
milton
road
and
also
a
lot
of
better
connections
across
the
divided
by
the
way
as
well
to
really
break
down
those
as
barriers
to
movement.
A
This
just
shows
again
a
little
bit
more,
simplifying
the
primary
sustainable
travel
routes
that
are
being
proposed,
and
again
these
are
consultation
at
the
moment
and
draft.
So
we
really
want
to
hear
what
you
all
think
about
them.
The
yellow
are
the
primary
strategic
routes
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists,
so
those
are
the
routes
that
allow
you
to
get
across
the
site
through
the
site
and
connect
up
with
the
other,
off-road
and
protected
cycle
routes
around
the
area.
A
Then
we
have
the
proposed
bus
route
through
the
site
as
well,
so
that
will
meet
up
with
milton
road
and
then
what
we're
looking
at
are
really
integrated
mobility
hubs,
so
not
just
a
bus
stop
where
you
can
get
on
and
off
your
bus,
but
also
actually
cycle
higher
and
all
of
those
other
really
important
things
that
allow
you
to
continue
your
journey
from
when
you
get
off
your
bus
or
your
guided
bus
and
we're
looking
at
a
new
guided,
busway
stop
as
well.
Just
here.
A
The
street
hierarchy
is
really
important,
so
we're
saying
that
whilst
the
thicker
white
lines
on
this
map
are
what
we're
calling
the
primary
streets
and
they
will
allow
motorised
traffic
through
traffic,
if
you
like
to
come
through
the
area
and
service
businesses
and
so
forth,
or
the
thinner
white
lines
which
are
calling
the
secondary
streets
are
basically
no
through
routes.
So
we
are
really
discouraging
people
to
use
them
unless
they
absolutely
need
to
take
a
delivery
and
so
forth.
A
You
can
also
see
that
we're
proposing
a
rather
different
approach
to
parking
in
this
in
this
image
here
so
rather
than
parking
at
your
doorstep,
which
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
obviously
used
to
we're.
Looking
at
consolidating
parking
for
residents
in
what
we're
calling
car
barns.
So
those
are
essentially
more
consolidated,
multi-story
car
parks
that
will
probably
be
wrapped
with
homes
or
offices
or
other
development,
and
they
will
be
a
short
walk
away
from
your
house,
but
it
is
about
saying
they
are
somewhere.
A
A
That
is
obviously
going
to
be
really
important
to
making
this
a
wonderful
place
to
live.
You
can
see
here
again
the
idea
about
the
mobility
hub,
which
is
that,
if
you
get
off
your
bus,
you
could
then
hire
a
bike.
You
could
then
cycle
you'll
kind
of
last
five
minutes
or
ten
minutes
or,
however,
wherever
you're
going
in
the
area
so
again,
you're
not
having
to
rely
on
a
car
or
any
other
sort
of
form
of
motorized
transport
for
those
short
kind
of
trips.
A
This
is
showing
those
secondary
streets.
So
this
is
a
higher
density
version,
and
here
we're
really
taking
many
cues
from
our
from
our
colleagues
over
on
the
other
side
of
the
channel
in
holland
and
belgium,
where
they
have
mastered
the
art
of
making
streets
where
you're
not
banning
cars.
This
is
absolutely
not
about
banning
cars
from
the
area.
A
Just
a
couple
of
sort
of
examples.
From
other
places
about
how
that
can
look
and
feel
when
it's
a
mature
and
finished
place,
so
you
can
see
that
cars
are
allowed,
but
they
are
very
much
second
fiddle
to
the
cycling
and
the
walking
and
the
kind
of
green
space
creating
a
much
more
attractive
and
much
more
family-friendly,
pedestrian-friendly
environment,
and
this
is
showing
how
a
slightly
but
different
version
of
this
might
work
in
a
residential
area
with
medium
density
street.
A
So
we
have
a
few
questions
that
have
been
coming
up
regularly
on
social
media
and
things
like
that,
which
we
thought
we
would
answer
first,
and
I
know
I
need
to
consult
my
notes
because
I
actually
can't
remember
who's
answering
the
first
question
here.
I
think
it
says
matt,
isn't
it
lots
of
people
have
been
hearing.
This
word
the
trip
budget,
which
we
haven't
really
mentioned
yet
so
far.
So
I
think
matt
was
going
to
unpack
this
question
about
what
is
a
trip
budget
and
how
will
this
work
in
practice.
C
Thanks
hannah
yeah,
so
a
truck
budget's
quite
unique.
Really
it's
about
ensuring
that
you
can
enable
development
to
come
forward
without
having
an
impact
on
the
surrounding
road
networks.
Well,
we
know
the
local
road
network
on
milton
road
in
the
surrounding
areas.
At
capacity,
therefore,
to
enable
development
come
forward
on
at
northeast
cambridge,
we
need
to
ensure
that
it
does
not
have
an
increase
in
that
in
those
trip
movements
and
how
we
do
this
is
by
allocating
the
existing
trips,
if
you
like,
that,
already
happen
within
nec
to
each
of
the
development
areas.
C
We
have
ways
and
means
of
doing
that.
Obviously,
first
and
foremost
is
ensuring
the
places
is
designed
such
that
it
facilitates
a
trip
budget
approach.
We
limit
can
limit
the
number
of
car
parking
spaces
on
individual
sites
as
well
to
ensure
that
that
happens,
but
primarily
it's
about
driving
up
the
level
of
sustainable
transport.
That's
made,
so
it's
a
huge
shift
away
from
vehicle
movement
through
to
about
a
70
share
of
all
movements
being
made
by
sustainable
modes
across
the
area
as
a
whole.
C
So
at
the
moment
we
did,
the
county
did
lots
of
modeling
for
us
originally,
and
our
consultants
did
to
determine
exactly
how
many
vehicle
movements
there
are
at
the
am
and
pm
peak
on
milton
road.
So
we
know
exactly
how
many
vehicles
coming
into
the
area
at
those
times
and
that's
what
the
peak
capacity
is
and
that's
what
the
trip
budget
set
upon.
C
If
you
like,
and
then
that's
allocated
out
to
each
of
the
development
areas
for
existing
sites,
it
means
they
have
to
significantly
reduce
the
amount
of
vehicle
movements
into
their
area
and
for
those
new
developments
that
are
coming
on
board.
They
need
to
stick
within
their
budget
and
ensure
that
there
is
significant
sustainable
transport
measures
put
in
place
to
facilitate
that
mode
share
that
needs
to
happen.
C
All
of
this
means
that
we
don't
have
to
do
huge
amounts
of
new
highways.
Engineering
works
around
milton
road
around
the
a14
as
well
to
to
get
more
traffic
and
vehicles
into
the
area
which
just
makes
it
unsustainable
that
northeast
cambridge
already
benefits
significantly
from
sustainable
transport,
whether
it's
cycling
train
the
bus.
We've
got
cambridge
metro
coming
as
well,
and
we
can
build
on
that
and
ensure
that
it
is
a
sustainable
place.
B
Thanks,
matt,
okay,
so
the
second
of
the
three
questions
that
we're
going
to
just
cover
now
are
is
won't
everybody
park
on
streets
outside
of
the
northeast
cambridge
area.
So
I
think
that's
sarah.
I
believe
that's
going
to
be
picking
up
on
that.
One.
F
Thank
you,
terry.
That's
that's
a
really
good
question
and
it's
important
because
clearly
by
restricting
parking
at
northeast
cambridge,
we
don't
want
to
simply
displace
that
problem
into
neighboring
areas.
F
So
we
know
that
the
availability
of
parking
is
a
big
driver
in
people's
decision
on
whether
to
drive
or
not
to
predominantly
work
at
the
moment,
obviously,
at
northeast
cambridge,
even
if
there
are
alternatives.
So
we
know
that
the
science
park
and
the
other
business
parks
in
the
areas
have
pretty
much
unconstrained,
prolific
parking
on
their
site,
so
there's
no
real
incentive
for
people
not
to
drive
to
work.
F
If
that's
what
they
want
to
do
so
that
then
feeds
through
into
the
clearly
into
the
sort
of
issues
with
traffic
and
congestion
on
milton
road
and
around
the
area.
So
just
in
in
answering
the
question
there,
I
think
the
first
point
is
that
the
development
won't
happen
all
together
overnight.
It's
the
site
is
going
to
be
developed
out
over
a
number
of
years,
so
we're
not
suddenly
going
to
be
faced
with
hundreds
of
vehicles
that
can't
park
on
the
site
and
are
then
looking
to
to
park
in
neighboring
areas.
F
It
will
be
done
in
a
phased
manner
and
as
the
plan
progresses,
a
parking
strategy
will
be
developed
for
the
whole
site,
which
is
phased
in
such
a
way
to
to
make
that
parking
more
equitable
about
across
the
site,
but
it
will
be
faced
in
such
a
way
that
it
matches
when
the
new
transfer
offer
comes
on
board.
So
you
know
it
would
be
unreasonable
to
to
take
parking
away
if
there's,
if
there
aren't
alternatives
in
place
for
people
to
use.
F
F
There
isn't
any
residential
development
there
at
the
moment,
so
people
moving
to
the
site
are
going
to
be
moving
there
in
the
knowledge
of
the
type
of
area
it's
going
to
be
and
the
vision
for
it
and
the
type
of
place
that
we
want
to
make
it.
F
So
I
think,
probably
if
you're
a
a
house,
four
car
household,
you
might
look
at
the
at
this
site
and
think
it's
not
for
you,
whereas
if
you're
a
household
that
perhaps
doesn't
need
a
car
for
so
many
of
your
journeys,
then
then
you
might
consider
it,
and
so
I
think
there
will
be
an
element
of
moving
into
the
site
in
the
knowledge
that
there
are
other
options
and
I
think
that's
the
key
to
it.
F
It's
as
hannah
said
earlier:
it's
not
about
no
cars
allowed,
because
clearly
people
do
need
their
their
cars
and
there
will
be
blue
badge
provision
and
there
will
be
carbon.
So
it's
not
it's
not
a
question
of
not
having
a
car
at
all,
but
there
are
other
options
and.
F
And
there
will
be
car
clubs
as
well,
so
it's
not
anti-car.
It's
just
trying
to
make
the
other
options
the
easier
choice
when
you
walk
outside
your
front
door,
so
it's
not
trying
to
put
off
people
and
who
need
a
car,
but
it
is
trying
to
make
the
other
options
kind
of
more
equitable
to
the
car
space
in
terms
of
the
employment
side
of
it.
F
That
will
be
more
of
a
challenge,
I
suppose,
because
you
do
have
people
who
are
obviously
already
coming
to
the
science
park
and
the
other
business
parks
who
are
driving
at
the
moment
and
over
time.
A
good
proportion
of
those
people
will
need
to
change
their
habits,
and
so
that
will
be
a
more
more
of
a
challenge
in
terms
of
changing
that
behavior
over
time,
and
I
do
acknowledge.
F
Obviously
there
is
the
concern
that
those
kind
of
trips
could
spill
over
and
into
neighboring
areas,
but
what
we
will
be
doing
is
we
will
be
monitoring,
doing
parking
monitoring
in
surrounding
areas
so
areas,
for
example
like
like
milton
like
the
areas
to
the
south
of
the
sites
and
as
those
developments
come
forward.
F
B
Thank
you.
Sarah
that's
really
helpful,
and
I
think
you
also
picked
up
on
some
of
the
questions
that
people
have
already
been
leaving
in
the
in
the
chat,
which
is
great
but
we'll
come
I'll,
come
back
to
those.
So
just
the
last
question
before
we
come
on
to
the
ones
that
have
been
asked,
and
there
are
quite
a
few
actually
so
thank
you.
Everybody
ask
questions.
So
far
is
what
about
the
weekly
shop?
People
will
still
need
cars
to
do
to
do
things
like
this.
E
That
one
terry
thanks,
I
mean,
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
point.
You
know
people
need
to
be
able
to
live
and
enjoy
living
in
this
area,
we're
not
trying
to
create
some
sort
of
police
state.
So
I
think
you
know.
We
need
to
make
sure,
though,
that
we
think
about
what
is
the
character
and
quality
of
the
place
that
we're
creating,
and
it
comes
back
to
the
vision
for
the
nec,
which
is
about
kind
of
everything
you
need
is
kind
of
very
local
to
you.
E
It's
on
your
doorstep,
so
that's
whether
you're,
hopefully
working
and
living
in
the
area
or
whether
you
need
to
go
to
the
shop
or
to
the
school,
and
I
think
you
know
the
basis
of
this
of
the
framework
and
the
vision
is
around
a
kind
of
really
good
series
of
kind
of
connected
streets
which
are
kind
of
great
for
walking
and
cycling
and
really
put
those
two
modes
right
at
the
top,
and
that's
then
supported
by
a
really
good
public
transport
offer.
E
The
guided
bus
stop
and
the
extent
that
you
know
the
increased
provision
of
the
guided
bus
stops
to
serve
the
district
center
again,
a
really
really
important
component.
E
So
all
of
these
kind
of
key
moves
are
supported
by
the
draft
policies
and
by
the
spatial
framework,
and
I
think
the
other,
the
other
side
of
it
is
about
you
know.
Car
ownership
patterns
are
changing
both
nationally
and
it's
sort
of
reflected
in
a
cambridge
context,
and
it
is
increasingly
about
having
access
to
a
vehicle.
Should
you
need
it
rather
than
you
know,
owning
a
vehicle
and
leaving
it
in
a
kind
of
car
parking
space
or
in
a
garage
for
the
majority
of
the
week.
E
So
you
know,
as
has
been
mentioned
earlier
in
the
presentation,
some
access
to
a
car
club
or
to
a
pool
car
is
really
important.
So
if
you
need
to
go
and
do
your
ikea
run
or
if
you
need
to
go
into
your
weekly
shop,
these
things
are
available
to
you
and
but
you
may
choose
to
use
that
rather
than
owning
your
own
private
vehicle
and
the
other
key
component
is-
and
it's
again
reflected
in
in
the
draft
policies.
It's
about
this
idea
of
a
last
mile
delivery
or
a
delivery
hub.
E
So
if
you
buy
something,
it
can
be
delivered
and
dropped
somewhere
locally,
which
you
can
pick
up
either
on
your
way
back
from
work
or,
if
you're
out
making
another
a
trip
somewhere.
E
That
can
really
help
to
reduce
the
number
of
vehicle
trips
in
and
around
the
area,
but
also
mean
that
you
don't
need
a
car
to
go
and
pick
something
up.
So
I
think-
and
obviously
you
know
your
your
local
kind
of
waitrose
tescos
other
supermarkets
are
available
deliveries
which
may
be
part
of
how
you
can
deal
with
the
kind
of
weekly
or
the
bulk
buy
shop.
E
So
I
guess
in
summary,
you
know
it
is
a
more
radical
approach,
but
it's
borne
out
to
this
need
to
really
think
carefully
about
the
trip
budget
also
reflected
in
the
kind
of
ambition
to
make
this
a
different
kind
of
a
place,
and
I
think
you
know
what
is
radical.
We
believe
that,
through
the
draft
policies
and
and
sort
of
evidence
that
we're
finding
it's
one
that
can
really
work
in
northeast
cambridge.
B
Thank
you,
john.
That's
really
helpful.
I
just
wanted
to
start
picking
up
now
on
some
of
the
questions
that
are
in
the
q,
a
feed
so
the
first
one
somebody
who's
he's,
got
health
implications
and
and
unable
to
kind
of
walk,
long
distances
and
essentially
they're
asking
the
question:
how
would
I
get
to
other
towns
and
villages
locally
without
my
car
and
would
I
be
unwelcome
in
this
development?
I
think
hopefully,
john
and
sarah's
kind
of
answers.
I've
hopefully
picked
that
up
and
essentially
no.
B
B
So
no,
we
don't
want
to
feel
to
feel
unwelcome,
but
really
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
people
that
people
feel
like
they
can
use
other
modes
of
transport
and
not
just
have
to
to
rely
on
the
car
for
every
journey,
whether
that's
you
know
the
school
run
or
whether
it's
you
know,
like
john
said,
you
know
doing
your
ikea
run.
So
so,
hopefully,
that's
helped
to
address
that
question.
B
There
was
also
a
point
about
parking,
sorry
about
management
of
displacing
parking
in
neighbouring
villages
such
as
milton
and
adjacent
roads.
So
hopefully
that's
already
been
covered
as
well
by
sarah.
I
think
one,
that's
a
really
topical
question
which
was
asked
earlier
as
well
was
about
covid
and
whether
cobid
related
sort
of
transport
issues
are
being
explicitly
factored
into
these
plans.
Eg
a
shift
to
work
from
home
so
is
high
density
development,
less
favorable
moving
forward
matt.
Is
that
something
that
you
might
be
able
to
pick
up
on?
Please.
C
Yes
sure,
I
think
what
it's
highlighted,
in
particular
the
the
latest
covert
lockdown
is,
is
how
important
our
cycle
and
our
walking
networks
are,
and
so
essentially
we're
trying
to
build
on
that
at
this
point
in
time
and
ensure
that
that's,
you
know,
part
and
parcel
of
what
we're
seeking
to
do
here.
Certainly
the
those
kind
of
transport
options
where
we
see
northeast
cambridge
taking
the
lead.
C
We
understand,
obviously,
the
implications
currently
of
use
using
public
transport
and
people
are
put
off
by
getting
on
the
buses
and
things
like
that
at
the
moment,
within
northeast
cambridge,
you
will
still
have
sustainable
transport
modes,
the
guided
busway
and
others,
but
it's
more
about
those
strategic
cycle
walking
connections
too.
C
So
we've
got
a
kind
of
watching
brief
at
the
moment
to
understand
where
we're
going
to
go
with
this,
certainly
around
the
development
form
where
we're
working
with
landowners
and
others
to
understand
more
what
it
means
for
new
office
buildings
in
the
area.
Do
we
need
as
much
we're?
C
Certainly
working
with
our
colleagues
around
what
is
required
for
people's
mental
health
and
well-being
in
terms
of
the
access
to
open
spaces,
and
also
we
all
appreciate
most
of
us
are
still
working
from
home
and
and
we're
looking
at
whether
actually
we
need
to
make
provision
within
new
housing
to
accommodate
that
going
forward
and
ensure
that
there
are
spaces
set
aside
specifically
for
needing
to
work,
whether
that's
us
or
the
kids
or
whoever
it
might
need
to
be.
It
just
can't
be
at
the
kitchen
table
anymore.
C
So,
like
I
said,
we've
got
a
watching
brief
at
the
moment
and
we
are
looking
at
all
the
implications
and,
and
they
cross
every
spectrum
really
from
the
transport
right
through
to
dwellings,
but
also
to
the
types
of
community
facilities
we
may
put
in
and
we'll
look
at
government
guidance
and
we'll
look
at
best
practice
as
well.
B
Thank
you.
Matt.
We've
got
a
couple
of
questions
here
about
about
fenn
road,
and
this
was
something
that
has
come
up
several
times
over
the
last
round
of
consultation
and
since
so
there's
a
lot
of
support
for
a
road
bridge
rather
than
just
a
pedestrian
or
cycle
link
across
the
railway
connecting
into
chesterton
fenn.
B
This
would
make
the
route
into
the
city
centre
and
the
chisholm
trail
much
safer
for
the
high
numbers
traveling
from
northeast
cambridge
and
free
up
the
towpath
for
pedestrians
as
fenrow
would
be
more
attractive
for
cycling.
It
would
also
help
solve
the
current
issues
with
delays
at
the
level
crossing
which
network
rail
highlighted
to
us
is
an
issue
in
the
north
area
committee
a
few
months
ago
and
anti-social
driving
in
east
chesterton
has
a
road
crossing
being
looked
at
and,
if
so
kind
of
where,
where
might
that
be
possible?
C
I'm
happy
too
yeah,
I
mean
it
is
an
issue
that
we're
aware
of
obviously-
and
we
obviously
want
to
address
as
local
authorities
the
potential
severance
of
a
community
due
to
the
increased
train
use
on
the
line
and
therefore
the
closing
or
potential
closing
of
that
level
crossing.
C
However,
the
areas
outside
of
the
aap
and
that's
specifically
because
air
reaction
plans
are
meant
to
focus
on
areas
of
development
solely
so
we
put
a
redline
boundary,
you
you're,
expecting
development
to
come
forward.
The
chest
defend
area
is,
is
flood
plain,
but
it's
also
green
belt
and
it's
a
traveler
community
as
well.
C
C
However,
we
realized
that-
and
some
work
has
been
done
and
looking
at
options,
if
you
like
for
providing
road
access,
alternative
road
access
should
should
the
legal
crossing
close,
there's
further
work.
That
needs
to
be
done
and
in
particular
with
network
rail
and
others
who
the
combined
authority,
who
are
the
transport
authorities
for
here
and
have
a
significant
role
to
play
in
in
determining
which
of
those
options,
is
the
preferred.
C
What
we
have,
however,
done
is
looked
at
whether
one
of
those
options
could
be
coming
through
into
northeast
cambridge.
If
that's
one
of
the
options
that
is
taken
forward,
we
are
looking
at
setting
aside
a
route
to
facilitate
that
that
would
be
just
north
of
the
aggregates
depot
at
the
moment
so
north
of
the
station
and
would
need
to
obviously
come
in
and
connect
through.
C
It
would
add
to
our
trip
budget,
obviously,
but
the
cycling
pedestrian
bridge
proposal
into
that
community
is
to
help
facilitate
both
people
living
at
northeast,
cambridge,
to
access
the
the
river
and
the
towpath
and
and
the
finn,
but
also
for
those
traveler
communities
and
others
to
access
the
amenities
and
services
that
will
be
provided
in
northeast
cambridge.
C
B
B
D
Sorry,
yes
right
so
mobility
hubs
are
designed
to
assist
people
with
their
their
whole
journey,
so
whether
you
arrive
or
leave
by
public
transport
and
then
wants
to
pick
up
another
form
of
transport
for
the
first
and
last
mile
of
your
journey,
so
the
at
the
hubs
themselves,
we
anticipate
there
will
be
some
cycle
parking
so
and
people
will
be
able
to
leave
a
cycle
of
whatever
form
they
need,
whether
that's
a
conventional
cycle
or
a
less
conventional
cycle
like
a
tricycle
or
some
of
the
other
other
cargo
cycles
and
other
styles
of
bikes
that
we
get
these
days.
D
B
Great,
thank
you
very
much,
claire
there's,
a
question
here
about
what
is
planned
for
me
away.
Is
that
something
that
sarah
you
might
be
able
to
help
with,
and
I
know,
there's
some
plans
for
me
away
at
the
moment
that
are
coming
through
as
part
of
another
scheme.
Is
that
right.
F
That's
right,
terry
yeah.
There
were
some
improvements
to
the
may
secured
through
the
water
beach
development,
possibly
not
the
place,
to
go
into
huge
amount
of
detail
here,
but
I'm
sure
that
we
could
pick
it
pick
it
up
outside
in
the
faqs
or
perhaps
provide
some
some
further
links.
Yeah.
I
don't.
I
don't
have
too
much
detail
to
hand
at
the
moment,
but
happy
to
to
follow
that
up.
B
I
think
effectively,
I
think
what
the
plan
is
saying
is
that
all
of
the
kind
of
planned
and
and
sort
of
under
construction
routes
that
are
happening
within
the
area,
whether
it's
the
chisholm
trail
or
the
milton
road
cycle
improvements
or
the
mere
weight
works
that
they
would.
You
know,
northeast
cambridge
would
effectively
kind
of
be
that
that
place
in
the
middle
of
a
lot
of
those
schemes
so
where
some
of
those
schemes
would
come
to
an
end.
You
know
we
think
that
is
you
know.
B
It's
really
important
that
northeast
cambridge,
you
know
actually
facilitates
connecting
all
of
those
routes
up
together
and
we've
tried
to
show
that
in
the
spatial
framework
and
a
lot
of
the
kind
of
connectivity
plans
within
the
aap.
B
But
I
suppose
what
would
be
a
really
good
opportunity
about
this
consultation
is
if
people
think
that
actually
we
haven't
got
all
of
those
connections
right.
So
I
don't
know
if
the
me
away
scheme
and
the
milton
road
improvements
are
happening
for
the
gcp,
whether
you
know
we
could
do
something
better
to
connect
those
two
schemes.
Actually,
maybe
that's
something
that
people
could
tell
us
as
part
of
that
as
part
of
the
consultation
process,
so
we
can
look
at
that
in
a
bit
more
detail
to
understand.
B
You
know
the
journeys
that
are
really
important
to
local
people
and
and
how
we
can
actually
try
and
try
and
join
those
thoughts
together.
Really
hannah
did
you
want
to
ask
the
next
question.
A
A
A
Many
people
come
from
far
and
wide,
often
with
quick
client
meetings
etc.
Not
everybody
wants
or
can
work
from
home
and
live
life
on
soon
and
I'm
just
trying
to
pick
up
the
ones
that
all
sort
of
slightly
related
I
haven't
seen
there
might
have
been
one.
No,
I
think
those
were
the
two
that
were
about
that.
I
think
they
are
really
interesting
questions
about
how
we
we
work
and
what
we
want
from
our
workplaces
and
one
of
the
things
that
we're
aware
of
is
that
you
know.
A
Cambridge
and
the
science
parks
have
an
amazing
reputation
for
attracting
talent
and
retaining
talent
in
the
area.
But
what
those
talented
people
want
is
really
changing.
And
if
you
look
at
the
tech
industries-
and
you
know
you
look
at
what
life
is
like
in
shoreditch
or
in
san
francisco-
those
are
the
places
that
cambridge
is
competing
with
for
talent.
So
we
need
to
make
a
place
that
is
feels
as
accessible
and
as
wonderful
to
live
in
as
those
places,
and
they
actually
don't
depend
on
people
driving.
A
They
don't
depend
on
people
having
to
get
in
the
car
to
come
to
work
and
lots
of
the
new
generations
of
people
who
are
coming
into
those
jobs.
We
are
hearing
from
those
employers
and
we
are
hearing
from
those
employees
as
well
that
they
would
like
the
lifestyle
in
cambridge
that
they
can
enjoy
in
some
of
these
other
really
important
cities.
B
Thank
you
hannah
there's
a
question.
I'm
going
to
pick
up
on
about
bike
theft,
which
I
know
is
a
big
issue
not
just
in
cambridge,
but
also
in
north
northeast
cambridge
as
well.
So
what
consideration
will
be
given
to
the
security
of
park
bikes
as
the
current
levels
of
theft,
discouraging
many
people
from
cycling.
North
cambridge
has
particularly
high
levels
of
theft.
John,
could
you
could
you
pick
that
one
up
please.
E
Yes,
okay,
thanks
terry,
I
mean
cycle
theft
is
a
is
a
big
issue
across
the
whole
city
clearly,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
kind
of
minimize
that
so
there
are
a
certain
number
of
approaches
we
can
take.
I
think
about
having
kind
of
activity
and
good
surveillance
on
streets,
so
actually
you've
got
people
walking
and
moving
around.
E
It
is
a
key
deterrent
to
making
sure
that
things
aren't
kind
of
done
out
of
sight
out
of
mind,
but
I
think
you
know
the
policy
as
well
in
the
in
the
draft
day.
Ap
is
very
specific
about
the
requirement
for
safe
and
secure
cycle
parking,
that's
well
related
to
the
either
homes
it
serves
or
to
the
businesses,
and
that's
really
really
important,
and
we've
mentioned
or
talked
very
briefly
earlier,
about
kind
of
off
gauge
cycles.
E
Those
non-standard
ones
which
are
increasingly
part
of
that
kind
of
cambridge
offer
making
sure
that
cycle
storage
accommodates
these
things,
making
sure
that
cycle
stores
have
space
where
you
can
put
maintenance
standing,
you
can
have
a
a
bicycle
pump.
All
of
these
things
come
down
to
some
more
technical
requirements
through
the
actual
kind
of
design
of
buildings,
but
they're
as
important,
really
as
making
sure
that
the
streets
are
active
and
well
surveilled.
The
other
point
is
around
the
mobility
hubs.
B
Thank
you,
john,
and
then
there's
two
questions
here
which
I'm
going
to
roll
into
one
matt.
This
is
going
to
be
coming
your
way,
so
will
properties
be
actively
marketed
as
suitable
for
low
or
low
car
ownership,
and
will
the
spaces
within
the
car
barns
be
free
or
be
paid
for
in
places
where
this
has
happened?
Eg
broadband
in
freiburg
germany,
it
successfully
reduced
car
ownership
levels
to
164
vehicles
per
thousand
people
compared
with
600
vehicles
per
1
000
people
in
the
wider
area.
C
Okay,
so
on
the
marketing,
yes,
we
will
be
working
hard
with
all
of
the
developers
around
actively
marketing
the
culture
of
the
place
that
we
want
to
see
embedded
through
the
aap
itself.
The
expectation
is
that
this
is
a
walkable
cyclable
neighborhood
people
coming
to
live
here
will
want
to
and
should
be
fully
engaged
in,
that
enterprise
really
and
shouldn't
come
with
an
expectation
that
that
it's
it's
business
as
normal
or
as
usual,
and
we
want
certainly
where
we
can
promote
low-car
development.
C
That's
what
we're
aiming
for,
in
particular
around
office
buildings,
and
things
like
that.
We
certainly
see
you
don't
have
to
have
the
huge
amounts
of
car
parking
associated
with
every
office
development
to
make
them
attractive
to
the
marketplace
to
make
their
attractive
to
tenants.
In
fact,
the
tenants
want
something
completely
different:
they
want
all
their
local
amenities
and
other
things
like
that,
and
if
you've
got
good
sustainable
transport,
there's
no
reason
to
have
those
in
terms
of
the
car
barns
themselves.
C
Like
you
said,
a
lot
of
it
will
be
just
car
storage,
more
than
car
parking
for
the
barns
I
envisaged
they'd
be
operated
on
a
lease
basis
and
that
lease
basis
would
be
would
require
payment
really,
and
it
would
all
depend
on
the
specific
circumstances
that
each
individual
has
in
terms
of
how
much
you
you
could
afford
to
pay
or
are
required
to
pay.
C
And
it's
not
so
much
about
putting
people
off
like
we
said
it's,
it's
not
so
much
putting
people
off
owning
a
car,
but
there
are
better
alternatives
to
everyone
to
owning
a
car,
whether
that's
having
a
pool
vehicle
and
or
or
access
to
a
car
via
other
means.
So
we're
still
to
work
out
the
details.
I
think,
on
the
exact
nature
of
the
the
how
the
barns
would
work
in
reality,
but
essentially
that's
where
we
see
it
going.
B
B
The
underpass
near
the
roundabout,
which
I
think
is
the
a4
team,
one
being
referred
to,
will
be
very
long
and
unpleasant.
So
two
parts
of
that
question,
john.
E
Yes,
I
mean,
I
think,
it's
fair,
to
say
we're
not
at
the
design
stage
for
these
key
connections
yet
so
I
don't
think
we
can
kind
of
categorically
say
it's
going
to
be
like
mile
end,
although
that
is
a
fantastic
example,
I
think
what
we've
found
through
the
typology's
work,
which
is
part
of
the
evidence
space
that
supports
the
aap,
is
that
there
are
a
number
of
really
good
ways
of
providing
high
quality
connections,
whether
they
are
through
kind
of
underpasses
or
over
bridges.
E
I
think
the
key
thing
is
about
the
quality
of
the
connection,
and
so
we
need
these
things
to
be
convenient
and
easy
to
use.
They
need
to
be
kind
of
seamless,
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
key
reasons
why
we've
changed
the
kind
of
emphasis
of
what
cowley
road
does
as
it
kind
of
bridges
over
milton
road
and
towards
the
science
park.
So
we
don't
want
to
create
very
securities
routes.
E
B
Thanks
john
I've
noticed
that
we've
got
around
10
minutes
left
of
the
of
the
session.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
if
you
do
have
any
questions,
please
do
put
them
in
the
q
a
at
the
bottom
and
any
that
we
don't
manage
to
answer
within
the
time
we
will
put
a
written
response
online.
So
when
the
video
of
this
recording
goes
online
there'll
be
a
written
response
to
all
of
the
questions
that
we
weren't
able
to
get
to.
B
So
if
you've
got
any
burning
questions
and
we
can't
answer
them,
then
don't
worry,
they
will
be
answered.
They'll
just
be
done
in
words,
rather
than
visually
and
orderly
audio
right
now,
okay,
hannah
there's
a
question
which
I'm
going
to
send
your
way.
Hopefully
you
might
be
able
to
help
so
at
what
point
in
the
future.
Does
the
council
expect
its
carbon
reduction
plan
to
produce
notable
effect
on
the
global
climate?
B
A
So
I
think
this
is
a
really
brilliant
question
about
how
small
things
add
up
to
big
changes
in
the
world,
because
of
course,
cambridge
and
south
carolina
councils
on
their
own
aren't
going
to
stop
climate
change
in
their
tracks.
But
we
are
working
towards
this
kind
of
wider
government
target
of
net
zero
by
2050
and
that
will
be
monitored
and
and
the
government
is
put
starting
to
put
in
place.
A
I
mean
this
is
obviously
a
very
new
target
for
us
all
to
be
working
to,
but
they
are
going
to
start
putting
in
place
ways
for
that
to
be
monitored.
I'm
sure
that
we
are
going
to
keep
arguing
about
the
science
here
to
some
degrees
and
how
much
impact
that
genuinely
has-
and
I
think
there
are
some
unknowns
here,
but
we
know
that
is
the
right
thing
to
do,
and
it's
just
so
important
that
we
embrace
this
challenge
and
we
do
the
most
that
we
possibly
can.
A
We
have
a
lot
of
discussions
in
the
team
about
what
netzero
really
means
and
we're
constantly
reviewing
some
of
the
science
around
that,
and
we
actually
have
some
really
great
studies
going
on
on
exactly
this
to
support
not
only
the
aap
but
also
the
local
plan.
So
I'll
probably
try
and
dig
out
a
link
for
you,
but
there
are.
There
is
a
wide
and
net
zero
and
low
carbon
strategy
and
study
being
done,
which
will
actually
start
to
quantify
some
of
this
stuff.
A
It's
not
all
kind
of
ready
yet
for
publication,
but
I'll
dig
out
a
link
and
put
it
in
with
the
faqs
that
we
put
online
as
terry
mentioned,
so
that
the
person
who
asked
that
question
you
can
definitely
have
a
look
at
that
evidence
base
and
see
what
you
think
about
the
way
we're
measuring
it
and
see
whether
you
think.
Maybe
we
could
do
better
on
that
as
well.
B
Thanks
anna,
it
turns
out,
I
can't
say
the
number
2
100.
it's
so
far
into
the
future.
I
can't
even
say
it:
okay,
I've
got
I've
got
another
question
here.
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
question
or
whether
it's
actually
it's
a
suggestion
actually
to
go
in
someone's
consultation
response.
Has
the
council
ever
considered
building
a
monorail
system
that
could
literally
go
over
the
top
of
existing
roads?
B
It
seems
the
whole
development
is
about
slowing
people
down
making
things
local,
which
could
be
great
for
some,
as
you
say,
but
transportation
should
still
be
fast
and
efficient.
The
concentration
on
bikes
and
walking
seems
disappointingly.
I
really
realize
it's
very
cambridge.
I'm
surprised
the
future
is
looking
so
slow.
Even
the
park
and
rides
are
tediously
slow.
B
I
think
that's
I
mean
that's
a
fair
comment.
I
think
yeah,
like
I
said
you
know
that
we
have
looked
at
a
range
of
sort
of
different
different
approaches
for
northeast
cambridge
and
if
you
look
at
the
the
transport
evidence
that
kind
of
sits
behind
the
draft
plan
at
the
moment
it
talks
about
how
you
could
improve
connectivity
not
only
to
the
wider
area
and
the
kind
of
you
know
the
city
center
and
adam
brooks
and
places
like
that,
but
also
about
how
you
can
improve
internalization.
B
So
that's
about
how
people
move
around
and
stay
within
the
site
as
well.
So
how
do
you
get
across
from
the
east
side
of
milton
road
to
the
west
side
of
milton
road?
And
things
like
that?
So
I
think
that's,
that's
a
you
know
a
good
point,
but
I
think
a
monorail
is
something
that
we
haven't
really
looked
at
in
too
much
detail
at
the
moment.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
does
feed
into
that
is
also
the
cam
which
has
been
looked
at
at
the
moment
by
the
combined
authority.
B
That
would
then
feed
across
the
site
along
the
existing
guided
bus
way,
most
likely
and
then
go
north
one
towards
water,
beach
and
also
towards
st
ives,
as
it
does
at
the
moment
on
the
guided
bus
way.
So
yes,
there
are.
There
are
a
few
ideas
in
you
know
that
are
possible
in
northeast
cambridge.
But
if
you've
got
any
other
suggestions,
then
please
do
respond
to
the
consultation.
B
I
should
just
say
that
all
of
the
all
the
questions
on
that
that
we've
had
on
here
were
great
and
all
of
the
other
sessions,
but
we
do
really
need
your
comments
in
writing
through
the
proper
consultation
channel.
Oh,
and
just
like
that
joe's
going
to
share
the
screen,
that's
a
really
good
plug
so
yeah.
So
if
you've
got
any
suggestions,
any
ideas,
if
you
support
elements
of
the
plan,
your
objective
elements
of
the
plan
or
or
you're
neutral,
you
just
want
to
make
comments.
B
Then
please
please,
please
do
submit
your
comments
to
us
before
the
5
pm
deadline
on
the
5th
of
october.
We
also
have
another
q,
a
session
which
will
be
the
last
one,
the
eighth
one
and
final
one
coming
up
and
that's
just
a
general
one.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
themed
like
this.
One
is
and
there's
more
information
on
that
slide
there,
but
we've
got
about
five
more
minutes
left,
so
I'm
going
to
try
and
get
through
some
more
questions.
B
C
I'm
happy
to
I
mean
I've
spent
time
in
the
netherlands
and
it's
pretty
prolific.
Unfortunately,
it's
prolific
everywhere.
It's
just
that
everyone
goes
for
it
for
the
cheaper
sort
of
bikes
because
of
the
understanding
that
it's
still
the
easiest
way
to
get
around,
but
obviously
they're
less
desirable
to
be
stolen.
C
But
it's
just
the
nature
of
it.
It's
really
unfortunate,
and
there
are
lots
of
things
you
can
do
in
particular
about
the
types
of
locks
and
things
you
put
on,
but
most
of
it
comes
down
to
to
surveillance
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
people
being
more
vigilant,
really
yeah.
B
Thank
you
and
then
there's
a
question
here,
and
this
is
actually
from
a
recent
article
saying
that
the
development
at
northeast
cambridge
would
be
amongst
the
most
dense
in
terms
of
population
in
europe
higher
than
london.
Is
this
true,
and
it
does
suggest
that
there's
too
much
being
too
much
housing
being
planned
here.
I
think
hannah
wanted
to
pick
up
on
some
of
that,
and
I
don't
know
john
wanted
to
as
well,
but
I
know.
B
A
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think
that
this
I
had
did
see.
This
comment
come
in
in
an
article
recently,
and
I
think,
if
I'm
really
honest,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
misunderstanding
here
between
some
of
the
figures.
We
did
have
a
webinar
on
housing
and
density
actually
last
week,
so
there's
some
more
detail
on
some
of
this
stuff,
then,
but
just
in
really
broad
terms,
we're
looking
at
around
sort
of
200
250
up
to
300
homes,
a
hectare
across
most
of
the
residential
development
areas
in
northeast
cambridge.
A
What
that
means,
because
I
know
that
people
say
well
what
on
earth
does
that
mean?
Well,
it's
quite
difficult
to
understand,
but
I
think
a
good
comparison
would
actually
be
somewhere
like
notting
hill
in
london.
If
people
have
watched
the
movie
or
been
there
themselves,
those
sorts
of
mansion
block
kind
of
taller,
you
know
mid
19th
century
buildings
are
about
250
homes,
a
hectare
and
they
have
a
really
great
amenity
space.
They
have
wonderful,
shared
gardens
in
the
back
and
in
a
way,
whilst
obviously
we're
not
building
19th
century
style
blocks.
A
Here
we
are
looking
at
many
similar
themes,
so
in
terms
of
the
density,
if
that
helps
you
visualize
it
that's.
What
we're
looking
at
london
is
quite
low
density.
So
if
you
took
the
entirety
of
london
inside
the
m25-
and
you
averaged
it
out,
you
would
get
quite
a
low
density
and
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at
a
higher
density
than
that.
But
what
we
really
are
looking
at
is
something
much
more
comparable
to
some
of
those
more
central
areas:
islington
notting
hill.
A
You
know
some
parts
of
slavic
and
places
like
that,
and
it
is
definitely
not
going
to
be
one
of
the
most
dense
in
terms
of
population
in
the
whole
of
europe.
If
you
look
at
you
know
central
paris
and
places
like
that,
much
much
denser
in
terms
of
population.
B
Thank
you
hannah.
I
know
we've
reached
our
parts,
but
I'm
going
to
do
one
more
question.
So
it
says
here:
you've
mentioned
weekly
waitrose
deliveries
here,
have
deliveries
coming
into
the
site
been
included
in
the
trip
budget
calculations
or
all
delivery
is
expected
to
go
through
the
logistics
hub.
Sarah
is
that
something
you
might
be
able
to
help
with.
C
I
don't
mind
I'll,
take
it
yeah
they
have
been
in
terms
of
what
the
trip
budget
requires
is
that
all
trips
are
taken
into
account
really.
So
that's
all
the
servicing
arrangements,
so
that's
people
coming
to
you
know,
put
in
your
new
washer
freezer
dryer,
whatever
it
is
all
of
those
things
to
deliveries
at
the
local
shops.
C
To
you
know,
people
coming
in
to
to
do
other
things
within
the
area.
All
of
those
trips
have
to
be
accounted
for
in
the
trip
budget,
so
that
includes
you
know,
deliveries
by
your
local
supermarkets
too.
Ideally
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
intercept
those
at
the
fringe
cut
off
as
many
as
possible
through
the
use
of
logistics
hubs
on
the
fringes
of
the
area
and
ensuring
that
that
last
mile,
as
a
last
green
mile
last
three
green
miles
really
by
cargo
bike
or
others
yeah.
B
Great,
thank
you
matt,
okay,
and
on
that
one
I'd
just
like
to
say
thank
you
very
much
for
joining
us.
Yeah
apologies.
We
haven't
got
around
to
every
question.
There
were
a
number,
so
it's
great
to
see
everybody
really
involved
and
engaged
with
this
topic
in
particular,
like
I
said
we
will
be
responding
to
all
of
those
online
within
within
the
next
few
days,
hopefully
by
the
end
of
this
week.
So
if
your
question
hasn't
been
answered,
then
then
you'll
you'll
see
a
written
response
shortly.
B
I'd
just
like
to
thank
all
my
panelists
and
technical
support,
joe
as
well
for
for
helping
with
this
session,
and
yes
thank
you
very
much,
and
please
don't
forget
to
make
your
comments
on
the
on
the
draft
plan
by
the
fifth
of
october
and
yeah.
Hopefully
we'll
see
you
all
at
the
next
q
a
session
in
about
a
week's
time.
Thank
you.