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Description
In this latest webinar, Mandy Williams, Interim Director of integration, inequalities and improvement and Mary Cridge, Director of Adult Social Care will take you through the latest developments in our approach to oversight of Local Authorities and integrated care systems.
They're also joined by colleagues in the Engagement, Policy & Strategy teams during the Q&A panel.
A
Good
afternoon,
everybody
and
welcome
to
cqc's
webinar
on
local
authority
assurance
and
integrated
care
system
oversight
really
nice
to
have
you
all
joining
us
so
welcome
my
name's
mandy
williams,
I'm
the
interim
director
for
integration,
inequalities
and
improvement
and
I'll
be
running
this
session
with
my
colleague,
mary
kridge,
who's,
the
director
for
adult
social
care
and
we'll
be
co-presenting.
A
We've
been
joined
by
some
colleagues
from
engagement
and
from
policy
and
strategy
today
to
help
to
support
so
thanks
for
them
to
them
for
coming
along
as
well
just
a
couple
of
a
little
ground
rules.
I
hope
you'll
find
this
really
useful
and
productive.
A
Please
bear
with
us
if
there
is
a
technical
glitch.
These
things
happen,
especially
on
very
hot
afternoons,
we'll
do
our
absolute
best
to
stick
to
time.
The
way
the
webinar
is
set
up
means
that
only
the
webinar
team
are
able
to
speak.
So
you'll
see
down
the
side.
There
is
a
chat
function.
Please
use
this
chat
function
on
the
side
of
the
screen
to
ask
any
questions.
It'd
be
really
good
to
know
who
you
are
so
you
know
if
you,
if
you
can
put
your
name
and
where
you,
where
you
work
down
the
side.
A
So
we
know
who's
asking
that
asking
the
question
when
you
post
it,
we
will
only
be
answering
questions
that
are
related
to
the
webinar
topic
today,
but
don't
worry
all
your
feedback
is
recorded
and
taken
into
consideration
and
we're
building
a
a
frequently
asked
questions:
q,
a
sheet
that
will
be
accessible
as
well,
the
the
webinar
is
recorded
and
that
will
be
uploaded
onto
our
youtube
channel.
A
So
with
with
all
that
said,
let's
just
move
on
please
step
to
the
content,
and
the
next
slide
so
just
a
little
bit
of
a
context
that
this
webinar
is
to
update
you
on
the
actions
that
we're
taking.
As
I
say
in
relation
to
local
authority
assurance
and
integrated
care
system,
oversight,
assessment
and
they've
come
about
as
a
result
of
the
changes
to
the
health
and
care
act
and
they've,
given
the
three
central
aims
of
greater
integration,
accountability
and
a
reduction
in
bureaucracy.
A
Well,
these
additional
powers
mean
that
for
the
first
time,
we'll
have
a
role
in
reviewing
and
assessing
systems,
and
not
just
providers,
so
we'll
be
looking
at
how
systems
are
working
in
their
entirety
and
their
totality
and
looking
at
how
local
authorities
are
meeting
their
social
care
duties
under
part.
One
of
the
care
act
next
slide,
please.
A
So
it's
a
really
big
change
for
us
to
have
gone
from
pure
provider
regulation
to
having
the
authority
to
have
oversee
the
systems
and
the
local
authorities.
A
That's
enabling
us
to
change
how
we
deliver
regulations
so
that
we
can
become
a
more
effective
regulator.
So
our
regulation
can
be
put
more
effective
and
timely
to
support
that
we've
developed.
What's
called
the
single
assessment
framework
and
I'll
just
talk
to
that
in
a
little
moment,
and
that's
going
to
enable
us
to
really
focus
on
how
systems
are
improving
outcomes
for
people
reduce
and
reducing
inequalities
in
their
care
next
slide.
Please.
A
It
all
starts
with
the
five
key
questions
and
they'll
remain
central
to
our
approach,
so
that's
safe,
effective
caring,
responsive
and
well-led.
However,
they
aren't
applied
to
our
assessments
of
integrated
care
systems
and
local
authorities,
but
they
will
remain
there
in
the
single
assessment
framework.
A
We've
beneath
the
key
questions
sit
what
we're
calling
quality
statements
we've
drawn
on
work,
that's
been
done
by
other
agencies
and
by
people
such
as
think,
local
act,
personal
national
voices
and
the
coalition
for
collaborative
care
to
really
bring
to
life.
A
What
those
five
key
questions
mean
to
people
who
work
in
services
and
who
receive
health
and
social
care.
Importantly,
they
set
out
what
good
and
outstanding
person-centered
care
looks
like
and
what
people
should
expect
from
their
providers
and
their
commissioners
and
from
the
system,
leaders
and
they're
very
much
framed
in
the
eye
and
the
we.
So
we
wanted
to
use.
A
That'll
help
us
make
those
judgments
about
qualities
of
care.
We've
reduced
our
current
key
lines
of
inquiry
and
replace
them
with
the
quality
statements.
Currently,
there
are
several
hundred
key
lines
of
inquiry.
They'll
be
replaced
with
far
fewer
quality
statements,
and
there
will
be
prompts
that
sit
underneath
those
and
they're
expressed
as
we
statements
so
they'll,
be
helping
to
make
things
clearer
for
providers
to
understand
what
our
expectation
on
them
is,
whilst
reducing
the
duplication
that
currently
exists
around
our
key
lines
of
inquiry.
A
We'll
use
these
sets
of
statements
in
our
assessments
of
all
sectors,
so
our
common,
our
key
lines
of
inquiry-
apologies
are
key
questions.
We'll
will
sit
through
running
through
all
of
our
providers.
A
Quality
statements
remain
will
be
consistent
across
all
areas
from
our
providers
to
our
systems
and
beneath
those
will
sit,
the
evidence
that
we
gather
and
we've
looked
at
our
evidence
to
identify
that
actually
they
fall
into
really
six
sort
of
key
themes.
We
wanted
to
be
more
consistent
and
transparent
in
our
approach
around
what
evidence,
we're
gathering
and
how
we
make
those
judgments
to
quality.
A
So
if
we
delete
we've
developed
a
way
to
categorize
and
score
that
evidence
as
part
of
our
assessment
and
the
initial,
the
evidence
categories
will
bring
far
more
structure
to
our
process
of
assessing
quality.
A
So
there
are
six
categories
for
our
evidence:
there's
people's
experiences.
We
want
to
hear
what
it's
really
like
to
receive
care,
treatment,
health
or
social
care
from
providers,
we're
wanting
to
hear
feedback
from
staff
and
leaders
to
find
out
what
it's
like
to
work
in
the
organizations
we'll
observe
care,
we'll
receive
feedback
from
partners
talking
and
sharing
information
and
intelligence
with
others.
We'll
look
at
the
processes
that
we'll
use
and,
very
importantly,
we'll
look
at
the
outcomes
of
care
received.
A
Next
slide,
please
so
have
we
developed
our
approach?
We've
done
a
huge
amount
of
collaborative
working.
We've
talked
to
hundreds
of
people
up
and
down
the
country
to
really
understand
what
our
questions
should
be.
What
our
quality
statements
should
be,
how
we
should
frame
it.
So
we've
done
a
lot
of
collaborative
work,
there's
been
a
large
amount
of
co-production
and
engagement
and
all
with
a
consistent
aim
that
we
add
value
and
don't
duplicate
next
slide.
A
Please
one
of
the
things
that
we've
heard
through
co-production
is
that
sometimes
there's
a
bit
of
confusion
about
the
language
that
we've
used,
and
so
there
was
an
ask
that
actually
we
are
more
consistent
in
the
language
and
that's
really
really
important.
A
B
So
the
local
authority
assessment
is
distinctive,
in
that
it
is
focused
on
the
care
act
from
2014
and
the
responsibilities
that
local
authorities
have
to
the
people
who
live
in
their
areas.
B
So
this
it
has
got
a
social
care
focus
and
it
is
all
around
prevention,
information
and
advice
and
the
right
services
being
available,
so
the
the
sorts
of
services
around
prevention.
This
is
like
looking
at
how
a
local
authority
knows
its
population
can
look
ahead
and
see
what
services
are
needed
that
are
focused
on
either
keeping
people
well
and
active.
B
So
either
you
know
preventing
the
need
for
care
at
all,
or
certainly
delaying
it
for
as
long
as
possible,
really
important
duties
around
the
provision
of
information
and
advice
again
both
about
how
to
keep
ourselves
as
citizens
fit
and
well
and
information
about
services
that
are
available
at
that
stage
and
then,
as
we
come
into
later
life
or
circumstances
for
working
age.
B
Adults
that
mean
help
and
support
is
needed,
that
there
is
information
and
advice
for
people
and
their
families
to
inform
their
decisions,
not
just
about
how
they're
leading
their
life,
but
about
the
services
that
are
available
to
them
and
then,
when
it
gets
to
the
stage
of
actually
needing
a
service.
B
Whether
that
is
support
in
the
home
in
our
homes,
in
our
communities
or
some
form
of
residential
service.
Then
local
authorities
have
a
duty
to
make
sure
that
there
are
an
appropriate
range
of
services
for
people
to
choose
from
and
that
those
services
should
be
of
good
at
high
quality.
B
So
they
local
authorities
have
a
role
and
a
responsibility
for
the
market,
the
social
care
market,
in
their
neck
of
the
woods
and
in
delivering
all
this
local
authorities
need
to
be
working
with
their
communities
and
other
partners
such
as
nhs
partners
to
make
sure
that
the
services
are
fit
for
what
local
people
need
now
and
for
the
future,
so
really
important
care
act
duties.
So
if
we
could
have
the
next
slide,
please.
B
So
this
list
here
shows
the
initial
focus
that
our
assessments
will
have
building
on
and
using
the
quality
statements
the
I
and
the
we
statements
that
mandy
has
spoken
to
us
about,
but
we've
we've
grouped
them
into
four
themes
that
sort
of
reflect
both
our
our
framework
and
the
duties
that
local
authorities
have
under
the
act,
and
here
they
are
working
with
people
providing
support,
ensuring
safety
and
leadership
and
workforce,
and
our
next
slide.
B
So
there'll
be
detail,
detail
for
all
of
these
sitting
underneath,
but
starting
with
working
with
people
in
assessing
needs
of
people.
B
We're
talking
about
the
individual
person
requiring
assessment
and
also
the
the
the
role
of
the
local
authority
to
consider
the
whole
sort
of
population
citizen
resident
needs
in
their
patch
and
that
whole,
as
I've
touched
on
so
supporting
people
to
live
healthier
lives
when
it
comes
to
providing
support,
we're
looking
at
the
provision
of
that
care
and
also
how
well
that
is
integrated
and
and
the
continuity
aspects,
because,
obviously
you
need
care,
that's
going
to
be
resilient
and
be
around
so
looking
at
partnerships
and
communities
under
this
whole
theme
of
providing
support
as
well.
B
B
So
this
is
the
leadership
of
the
local
authority
itself,
looking
at
how
they
are
governed
and
managing
themselves,
how
they
are
managing
so
that
they're
sustainable
in
their
offer
and
also
looking
at
learning
and
improvement
and
innovation,
and
this
theme
really
builds,
as
does
the
single
assessment
framework
on
all
that
we've
learned
in
in
our
business
as
regulators
thus
far,
which
is
that
leadership
is
absolutely
key
to
safety
and
to
the
quality
of
services
and
that
if
there
isn't
learning
and
improvement
and
innovation
going
on,
then
that's
also
not
the
sort
of
place
where
we
see
really
safe
and
really
good
services.
B
A
So
this
slide
just
sets
out
the
core
purpose
of
the
integrated
care
systems,
so
they're
very
much
to
improve
outcomes.
A
huge
goal
improve
the
outcomes
of
people
who
are
resident
within
the
footprint
of
the
icf
to
tackle
unequal
access,
experience
and
outcomes
to
make
sure
that
there's
a
good
productivity
and
value
for
money
being
delivered
and
to
support
broader
social
and
economic
development.
A
The
the
face
of
the
act
sets
out
three
key
areas:
that
of
leadership,
integration
and
quality
and
safety,
and
those
will
be
our
initial
focus
for
us
ics
assessments.
A
So
the
the
legislation
requires
the
secretary
of
state
for
health
and
social
care
to
set
objectives
and
priorities
when
it
comes
to
assessment
of
integrated
care
systems.
A
Quality
and
safety
will
be
central
to
our
approach
to
integrated
care
systems
as
to
as
they
are
to
how
we
regulate
providers
to
how
they're
meeting
the
health
and
care
needs
of
people
who
use
their
services,
but
so
too
will
be
how
those
services
are
integrated
together
and
how
inequalities
are
being
tackled.
A
So
when
we
looked
at
those
three
key
themes,
we
looked
at
our
quality
statements
that
would
map
across.
If
we
go
on
to
the
next
slide,
please
this
slide
sets
out
the
the
key
quality
statements
that
sit
within
each
of
the
three
themes,
so
within
leadership
that
shared
direction
and
culture.
A
As
mary
said,
we
really
know
that
good,
strong,
effective
leadership
is
really
key
to
creating
a
really
good
learning
culture.
We
want
to
be
looking
to
how
leaders
are
are
delivering
their
function
in
a
compassionate
and
inclusive
way.
Of
course,
we'll
be
looking
at
governance
and
assurance
processes,
but
we
also
want
to
be
really
clear
about
how
they're
working
as
leaders
with
their
in
partnership
with
their
local
communities,
how
they're
learning
and
improving
how
they're,
considering
environmental
sustainability
going
forward
and
really
importantly,
looking
at
the
workforce,
equality
and
diversity
amongst
all
of
their
workforce.
A
That's
that's
delivered
and
how
continuity
carries
on
and
how
staff
teams
and
services
work
together
to
the
benefit
of
the
of
the
residents
of
the
ics
and
when
we
look
at
quality
and
safety,
we'll
be
wanting
to
see
that
there's
a
really
learning
culture-
and
this
link
is
very
much
back
into
that
leadership,
compassionate
capable
inclusive
leaders
and
they're
the
ones
who
are
going
to
be
really
promoting
a
good
learning
culture
we'll
be
looking
at
how
they're
supporting
people
to
live
healthier
lives.
A
One
of
the
things
that
we've
heard
is
the
language
that
we
use,
that
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
that
language,
that
we
don't
refer
to
people
as
patients
or
service
users.
When
we're
talking
about
those
people
who
live
within
the
integrated
care
system.
The
whole
aim
of
that
is
about
keeping
people
well.
Helping
them
to
live
healthier
lives,
helping
to
prevent
them
needing
to
access
services
needed
stopping
them
needing
to
become
patients
or
service
users
in
the
first
place.
A
B
Thanks
mandy,
it's
me
again,
so
we've
been
talking
to
you
about
our
single
assessment
framework
on
which
we're
building
everything
we
do
from
our
registration,
our
provider
regulation
and
these.
This
work
that
we're
talking
to
you
about
this
afternoon
and
we've
looked
at
what
those
areas
and
the
specific
focus
on
those
on
those
boat
on
them.
Both
I'm
now
going
to
take
us
through
the
areas
that
are
actually
common
to
both
areas
of
work.
C
B
So
the
first
element
that,
where
we've
got
a
lot
in
common,
is
around
evidence
and
here's
a
list
I
think,
will
be
familiar
to
many
of
you
on
the
call
absolutely
central
to
both
the
systems
and
the
local
authority.
Work
will
be
evidence
of
people's
experience
directly
from
them
their
families,
their
carers.
B
Also
what
the
different
organizations
that
make
up
that
system
and
local
authority
what
they
know
about
people's
experience,
but
that
will
be
absolutely
at
the
heart
of
it.
B
We
shall
want
feedback
from
partners,
so
we'll
have
in
this
sort
of
folk
feeding
back
on
each
other,
but
that's
really
important
that
we
understand
what
it's
like
to
be
delivering
in
that
system
as
a
commissioner
or
a
provider
and
how
how
that's
all
working,
how
people
are
working
together
because
doing
that
well,
is
going
to
be
so
important.
B
We
shall
want
feedback
from
people
working
in
these
organizations
and
their
leaders.
Of
course
we
will-
and
we
will
be
undertaking
observation
so
looking
at
what
what's
going
on,
observing
observing
things
happening
that
will
give
us
insight
into
into
how
how
people,
what
what's
being
provided,
what
the
impact
of
it
is
and
how
it's
all
fitting
together,
we'll
also
want
to
look
at
processes,
understand
how
things
are
intended
to
work.
B
B
We
could
look
at
what
quality
is
like
in
that
area
in
terms
of
the
providers,
if
there
are
a
lot
of
services
in
that
area
that
are
inadequate
or
requires
improvement,
what
what
is
the
system?
What
are
the
local
authorities,
the
local
authority
doing
to
address
and
support
providers
to
improve
and,
of
course,
we'll
have
the
generally
available
information
public
health
data
on
the
population
on
the
equalities
in
that
patch
and
the
inequalities?
B
What
what
difference
have
we
got
in
terms
of
experience
based
on
people's
protected
characteristics,
and
all
of
that
will
be
hoovering
up
and
using
both
for
local
authority
assessment
and
the
system
work
next
slide?
Please
so
another
thing
the
work
has
got
in
common
is
our
proposed
approach,
so,
unlike
provider
regulation,
which
we've
been
doing
for
some
years
now,
we
don't
have
an
established
baseline
of
understanding
of
quality
and
safety.
B
B
For
this
work,
we're
going
to
make
use
of
all
the
available
data
sources,
we
won't
be
asking
for
anything
new
if
that
data
already
exists
and
we
can
get
our
hands
on
it
and
we'll
only
use
physical
visits
where
that
is
the
best
means
of
gathering
the
evidence,
there's
so
much
that
we
can
do
online
now
or
that
already
exists,
but
we
will
come
out
and
vis
visit
to
gather
that
the
elements
that
are
unique
to
that
as
being
the
best
way
to
do
things,
and
we
definitely
want
to
encourage
improvement.
B
We
should
always
be
asking
we,
wherever
we
are,
what
people
are
proud
of,
what
they're
working
on
in
terms
of
improvement,
so
that
we
can
capture
that
for
the
important
reason
of
we're
not
just
celebrating
it
where
we
find
it,
but
sharing
it.
So
this
whole
way
of
working
we'll
have
a
much
smarter
way
of
sharing
the
outcomes.
B
If
I
could
have
the
next
slide,
please,
so
I
want
to
touch
on
what
we've
heard,
because
we've
been
developing
this
work
through
engagement
and
co-production
with
people
and
partners,
and
there
are
a
number
of
themes
from
that
coming
through
so
partnership
working
we're
getting
the
very
strong
message:
cqc,
you
need
to
work
with
other
regulatory
bodies
so
that
we
avoid
duplication,
and
we
absolutely
are
committed
to
doing
that.
B
We
can
use
other
people's
information,
so
we
don't
have
to
come
and
ask
for
it
again.
B
B
We
need
to
understand
systems,
so
the
feedback
we've
had
is
that
we
should
look
at
a
system
in
its
widest
sense
and
that
it'll
be
important
for
cqc
to
recognize
the
context
in
which
systems
and
providers
are
operating.
So
that
might
be
everything
from
geography
to
history,
to
the
population
landscape.
B
You
know
long-running
deep-seated
challenges
that
a
system
might
have.
I
mean
every
system
and
place
has
its
challenges,
but
they
are
different
in
different
places
and
we
need
to
really
make
sure
we
understand
a
place
as
part
of
this
work
and
other
feedback
is
that
our
assessment
should
focus
on
addressing
inequalities
and
how
a
system
is
looking
at
delivering
enabling
good
outcomes
at
a
population
level.
So
we
really
need
to
think
and
be
aware
of
both
the
issues
and,
what's
being
done
to
address
them
and
really
understand
that
properly
ratings.
B
So
the
consensus
is
that
it's
too
early
for
ratings.
The
intention
is
that
there
will
be
ratings
both
for
a
system
and
for
a
local
authority
that
that
is
contentious
in
some
places
and
that
is
being
debated,
but
we
feel
some
people
feel,
and
I
think
it's
a
view,
certainly
that
I
have
having
been
inv
seen
the
positive
impact
of
ratings
in
in
the
provider
regulation
is
that
some
you
know
there
is
a
sense
that
ratings
could
be
a
driver
for
improvement.
B
As
part
of
that
to
inform
that
so
next
slide,
please
I've
got
another
list
of
things
that
we've
heard
so
data
where
it
exists
and
where
it's
robust,
we
should
use
it.
Absolutely
that's
what
we
want
to
do
to
make
sure
we're
only
asking
for
data
where
it
really
doesn't
exist.
B
Co-Production
so
there's
a
sense
that
we
can
play
a
key
role
in
assessing
how
well
local
authorities
and
ics's
are
doing
in
engaging
their
populations
and
developing
services
in
partnership.
You
know
the
best
people
to
understand
the
service.
Nobody
understands
a
service
like
the
people
who
are
receiving
it.
Of
course
the
people
providing
it
understand
it,
but
in
terms
of
the
insight
into
how
it
feels
to
get
that
service
and
whether
it
could
be
better
or
not,
you
know
it's
just
so
brilliant
to
talk
to
people
and
their
families.
B
B
Leadership
has
been
well
led,
has
been
a
key
question
for
years
now,
and
we
have
made
that
judgment
in
some
very
large
organizations
in
the
nhs,
but
we
want
to
really
make
sure
we
can
do
this
well
and
in
this
new
context
that
we're
being
asked
to
work,
there
have
been
some
suggestions
to
consider
peer
review.
B
Now
that's
a
system
that
is
already
well
established
in
local
authority
work
and
may
well
become
established
for
systems,
but
they're
they're
only
just
very
new
systems,
but
we
could
build
on
the
peer
review
arrangements
that
exist.
That
means
bringing
leaders
from
one
part
of
the
country
to
another
to
help
us
understand
what
we're
looking
at
that
sense
of
being
judged
by
peers
is,
is
important,
proportionate
regulation
there's
concerns
about
how,
on
both
the
system
and
the
local
authority
that
this
work
could
the
impact
that
we
could
have.
B
The
strong
feedback
is
that
these
should
be
separate
and
only
considered
when
we're
looking
at
how
well
a
system
has
responded
to
the
ratings
in
its
patch,
as
I've
mentioned
before,
about
we're
interested
in
how
a
system
supports
providers
in
its
patch
in
terms
of
improving
their
service.
What
it
will
not
be
is
a
simple
sum
of
looking
at
all
the
providers
across
health
and
social
care
in
a
patch,
adding
up
the
ratings
and
coming
up
with
some
amalgam.
B
B
So
we're
testing
elements
because
there's
some
things
with
our
the
work
we
already
do
so,
for
example,
we're
not
testing
case
tracking,
because
we
already
do
that.
We
we
can
do
it
well,
we
know
what
it
costs.
So
it's
the
newer
areas
that
we
are.
We
are
testing
we're
using
the
learning
from
this
activity
to
further
refine
and
develop
our
approach
and
to
help
us
understand
what
we'll
need
in
in
terms
of
our
team
sizes
and
skill
mix,
to
undertake
this
work.
B
We're
continuing
to
engage
throughout
this,
both
with
providers
and
system
level
leaders
and
through
attendance
at
sort
of
key
forums
and
events.
We've
also
got
a
special
expert
advisory
group
to
inform
and
influence
us
in
our
ongoing
iteration
of
this
work.
If
I
could
have
the
next
slide,
please
this
touch
is
on
the
timeline.
B
So
for
the
rest
of
the
year,
we
will
continue
to
develop,
make
sure
that
we've
got
everything
we
need
in
place
to
deliver
our
new
responsibilities,
including
recruiting
and
training
staff,
and
everything
at
every
stage
will
be
underpinned
by
co-production
and
engagement.
So
please
do
look
out
for
ways
to
get
involved
and
share
your
views.
B
We're
currently
focused
on
the
methodology,
development,
testing
and
co-producing
our
approach,
the
second
half
of
this
year.
We
expect
to
be
focused
on
what
we
need
to
deliver
the
work
and
recruitment
and
so
on,
but
it
all
needs
to
be
done,
and
then
we
start
the
reviews
proper
for
both
local
authorities
and
systems
from
april
next
year,
which
is
now
nine
short
months
away.
B
If
I
could
have
the
next
slide,
please,
this
is
the
slide
with
all
the
information
about
how
to
stay
up
to
date.
Many
of
you,
I
think,
will
all
be
ready,
be
engaged
in
our
citizen
lab.
B
But
if
not,
please
do
join
up
for
that
when
you
get
the
slides,
you'll
have
all
the
links
there
for
the
various
connections,
we'll
continue
to
put
information
out
in
our
sector
bulletins
and
our
blogs,
and
we
keep
all
our
sort
of
up-to-date
news
comes
through
twitter
as
well
and
through
the
episodes
on
our
connect
channel
okay.
B
So
I
think
we
have
got
to
the
stage
now
where
I'm
going
to
say
next
slide.
Please
and
any
questions.
Thank
you.
D
Thanks
both
so
the
first
question
and
we've
had
a
couple
of
questions
around
this
and
whether
on
the
local
authority
assurance
side,
this
is
a
reintroduction
or
will
the
new
process
resemble
the
process
that
was
previously
run
by
the
commission
commission
for
social
care,
inspection.
B
It
is
okay,
it
is.
It
is
a
brand
new
piece
of
work
based
on
the
care
act
which
came
along
in
2014,
so
it's
got
a
statutory
sort
of
basis
and
focus
in
a
different
way
to
what
went
on
in
the
past.
I
actually
was
involved
in
that
many
years
ago.
B
So
there
are,
there
will
be
some
similarities,
a
very
high
strategic
level
in
terms
of
we're
interested
in
how
the
local
authority
understands
its
population,
using
its
own
data
conversations
with
leadership
to
understand
priorities
and
how
they're
doing
so
at
that
level,
yes,
but
but
that
they're
all
resemblance
ends.
It's
got
a
new
statutory
framework,
a
new
focus.
B
We've
transformed
out
of
all
recognition
since
those
days
and
we're
building
on
our
brand
new
single
assessment
framework.
So
there'll
be
elements
of
the
familiar,
but
really
it's
it's
it's
best
to
think
of
it
as
brand
new.
That's
certainly
how
it
feels
to
us
at
cqc,
but
good
question.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
D
And
then
on
the
ics
side,
so
there's
a
question
related
to
the
to
the
slide.
When
we
talked
about
the
single
assessment
framework
about
whether
when
we're
talking
about
integrated
care
systems,
do
we
mean
integrated
care
boards
and
integrated
care
partnerships?
D
A
Yes,
when
we
talk
about
ics's,
we
talk
about
the
system
in
its
entirety,
so
we
talk
about
that
the
integrated
care
board
and
how
the
they're
partnering,
with
the
integrated
care
partnership,
how
the
the
icp,
the
integrated
care
partnership,
is
informing,
the
and
and
driving
the
agenda
of
the
integrated
care
board.
So
we
will,
when
we
talk
ics,
we
talk
about
those
two
elements
absolutely
being
hand
in
glove.
D
Great,
thank
you
and
then
a
couple
of
questions
around
the
the
kind
of
the
process
as
well
that
were
asked
from
the
local
authority
perspective,
but
I
think,
could
probably
apply
across
both,
and
so
that
was
around
how
the
local
authorities
or
ics's
will
be
selected.
A
So
I'm
still
live
so
I'll
I'll
kick
off.
How
so,
how
will
they
be
selected
at
the
moment?
A
We're
not
we're
we're
still
working
through
that
level
of
detail
as
to
you
know
which
ics
we
visit
first
in
april,
obviously,
from
april
1st,
we're
not
going
to
be
suddenly
charging
out
and
assessing
each
and
every
one
of
the
42
simultaneously,
so
we're
we're
still
working
through
how
will
how
we'll
sequence,
the
the
assessments,
but
we
will
go
to
all
and
we
will
we
will
assess
each
and
every
one
will
they
be
unannounced?
A
No
is
the
is
the
the
short
answer
to
that
and
and
the
rationale
behind
that
is
that
actually,
what
we're
wanting
to
do
is
to
to
really
use
the
data
to
interview
key
staff
to
spend
time
with
key
members
of
both
the
integrated
care
partnership
and
the
integrated
care
board
to
see
how
they're
meeting
the
needs
of
their
of
their
local
populations.
A
All
of
that
takes
a
lot
of
diary,
diary
coordination,
and
so
it's
primarily
it's
the
logistics
of
it
that
mean
that
they
wouldn't
be.
They
wouldn't
be
unannounced.
A
We
will
still
continue
to
do
unannounced
inspections
of
providers
in
the
same
way
as
we
would
responding
to
risk
and
concerns
as
they're
coming
as
they
come
up.
You
know
crossing
the
threshold,
both
in
and
out
of
hours
and
in
that
unannounced
manner.
I
don't
know
mary
if
you
want
to
add
anything
on
to
that.
B
Thanks
mandy,
I
think
you've
covered
it
really
well
so,
two
years
to
get
this
baselining
done
to
get
around
everybody
in
both
the
system
and
the
local
authority,
and
as
mandy
has
said,
you
know,
we
learnt
from
our
inspections
of
large
nhs
organizations
that,
when
we're
focusing
on
the
leadership
part,
it
really
is
best
to
agree
to
to
announce
when
we're
going.
B
If
us,
if
a
local
authority,
as
some
do
are
actually
have
some
directly
delivered
services,
those
are
registered
with
us
separately
as
locations
in
their
own
right
and
our
approach
to
them
will
not
change
as
mandy's
described.
The
range
of
types
of
inspection
and
observation
visits
that
we
do
in
places
where
care
is
being
delivered
and
received
that
that
won't
change.
B
But
that
would
be
the
only
instance
in
which
we
would
rock
up
unannounced
at
something
run
by
a
local
authority,
and
we
also
want
to
know
about
things
that
we
might
join
in
on.
So
if
there's,
for
example,
a
carers
forum
or
a
particular
patient
group
that
meets
or
a
particular
sort
of
community
effort
or
group
of
staff,
we
would
want
to
know
about
that,
and
you
know
avoid
duplication
of
effort
where
we
can.
That's
probably
all
I
would
say
on
that.
Thank
you.
D
Great
thank
you
and
we'll
stick
with
a
local
authority
question,
although
another
one,
I
think
that
will
apply
across
both,
and
this
is
whether
local
authorities
will
receive
a
rating
after
assessment.
B
So
the
the
the
thinking
is
yes,
but
the
decision
on
that
will
be
for
the
secretary
of
state,
but
the
way
it
will
work
in
our
new
single
assessment
framework
is
that
we
will
be
scoring
the
evidence,
and
this
will
be
the
same
in
when
we
introduce
this
across
provider
land
as
well,
that
we'll
look
at
evidence
and
score
that
and
we
will
score
quality
statements
and
then
the
quality
statement
scores
will
build
to
an
overall
rating.
B
B
So
it's
really
exciting
the
potential
that
gets,
but
so
when
we,
so,
let's
assume
for
the
argument's
sake,
the
secretary
of
state
agrees
that,
yes,
we
will
rate
and
then
agrees
when
we'll
start
that
from
and
it
might
be.
We
start
the
work
and
don't
start
rating
for
a
little
while
these
decisions
haven't
been
made
yet.
B
But
once
it's
all
announced
I'll
be
very
clear,
we
would
be
communicating
very
loudly
when
this
is
all
going
to
start
from
and
how
it
will
work.
But
that
is
the
intention
in
the
new
powers
that
we've
been
given,
that
for
both
systems
and
local
authorities,
we
will
be
working
towards
a
rating
and
it
would
be
like
like
it
is
at
the
moment
you
get
the
work
done.
B
You
write
your
reports,
you
they
go
through
quality
assurance
systems
that
those
who
the
report
is
about
get
a
chance
to
read
a
draft
and
we
clear
up
any
matters
of
fact,
and
then
we
publish
yeah
so
it'd
be
the
same.
The
same
format.
Thank
you.
D
Great
thank
you,
and
I
think
last
question
conscious
of
time
and
that's
around
what
capacity
does
cqc
have
to
undertake
these
assessments?
Slash
inspections,
in
addition
to
current
provider,
inspections,
okay,.
B
So
this
is
new
work
for
which
we
have
new
resources,
so
this
is
work
that
we've
been
asked
to
undertake
by
by
the
governments,
so
this
will
be
directly
paid,
for
we
will
get
funds
from
the
department
of
health
and
social
care,
so
this
will
not
come
out
of
provider
fees.
This
is
separate
new
work
for
which
we
have
separate
new
resources.
D
Thank
you,
and
I
think
charles
wanted
to
come
in
and
add
on
this
question
as
well.
C
No,
it
was
on
the
previous
question.
Actually
it
was
around
the
ratings
that
we
are
also
exploring
that
when
we
do
a
rating
for
the
ics
there'll
be
a
directional
travel
statement
with
that
rating.
So
we'll
say
where
that
organization
is
at
that
point
and
and
where,
where
we
see
them
going
in
the
future,.
C
And-
and
the
second
point
was
just
to
say,
I
think
the
funding
system
is
going
to
be
slightly
different
between
the
ics's
and
the
la
assessments,
because
the
ics's
won't
be
funded
directly
through
granting
aid.
D
Thanks,
charles,
so
I
think
we
can
hand
to
mandy
yeah.
A
And
I'll
just
sort
of
finish
on
on
that
question
around
capacity
and
then
and
then
just
thank
everybody,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
spending
a
lot
of
time
doing
is
is
changing
our
internal
processes,
our
it
systems.
A
How
providers
are
going
to
be
able
to
engage
with
us,
how
they're
going
to
be
a
submitting
notifications
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
So
a
big
driver
over
the
last
year,
or
so
has
been
updating
our
internal
processes
to
enable
us
to
be
a
really
effective
and
efficient
regulator,
and
part
of
that
will
also
free
up
that
additional
capacity
to
enable
us
to
undertake
undertake
this
work
as
well.
A
A
We
will
be
going
and
encouraging
people
to
become
subject
matter,
experts
providing
us
with
that
additional
support
and
expertise
that
that
critique
and
to
be
critical
friends
and
peer
reviewers
when
we
are
undertaking
the
assessments.
A
So
all
of
that's
going
to
build
into
our
capacity
to
enable
us
to
carry
on
functioning
and
to
continue
our
work
to
be
an
effective
regulator
of
providers,
but
also
now
of
local
authorities
and
integrated
care
systems,
which
is
a
really
monumental
shift.
A
So
that
brings
us
to
the
end
of
the
session
and
thank
you
very
much
everybody
for
for
joining
us
this
afternoon
and
for
sticking
with
us
on
a
very,
very
hot
sticky
afternoon.
A
I
hope
you
found
that
helpful.
The
slides
will
be
coming
around
to
you
all
and,
as
mary
said,
they've
all
got
means
of
connecting
with
us.
Do
look
out
for
ways
of
connecting
do
check
out.
Our
website
do
sign
up
to
citizens
lab
and
do
keep
an
eye
out
for
frequently
asked
questions
that
we'll
be
publishing
around
all
these
sorts
of
questions
that
you
you're
all
asked
asking.
A
So,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
input
and
it's
been
really
great
presenting
to
you
this
afternoon
and
thank
you
all
thank
you
to
mary
and
to
charles
and
to
to
the
team,
the
back
the
back
room
team
that
have
done
a
great
job
in
in
keeping
this
going
so
wish
you
all
a
good
afternoon.
Thank
you
very
much.