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From YouTube: November 9, 2015 Council Meeting
Description
The November 9, 2015 meeting of the Caribou City Council.
The Agenda can be found here: http://www.cariboumaine.org/index.php/government/city-council/council-agendas/
The Council Packet can be found here:
http://www.cariboumaine.org/index.php/government/city-council/council-packets/
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I'll
call
the
caribou
city
council,
meeting
November
9th
to
order
and
worst
item
tonight
on
the
agenda
is
public
input.
Anyone
that
would
like
to
speak
on
any
items
on
the
agenda
or
not
on
the
agenda.
Please
come
forward
to
the
podium
budget
is
public
input
tonight,
as
is
the
general
assistance
ordinance
sofas.
Anything
to
do
with
that.
That
would
you
be
during
about
agenda
item
anything
else
from
anyone.
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On
the
following
pages
is
a
list
of
the
city-owned
property,
as
was
discussed,
are
in
the
budget
public
forums.
The
property
highlighted
in
yellow
is
what
I've
identified
as
possibly
could
be
sold.
Some
of
these
Lots
would
likely
have
little
or
no
value
to
people
as
they
are
not
buildable
or
likely.
Not
buildable.
Due
to
city
zoning
patrolman's,
owning
property,
highlighted
in
green,
is
text
copy
that
people
have
payment.
Arrangements
on
some
of
these
will
be
paid
off,
but
there
are
some
that
will
likely
never
get
caught
up
as
it
stands
today.
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The
council
could
put
some
are
all
these
properties
up
for
bid.
The
council
could
also
give
the
own
the
owners
a
set
amount
of
time
say
three
months
or
six
months
for
them
to
pay
it
off
before
putting
it
out
for
bid
for
some
of
these.
That
may
require
them
to
get
a
loan
through
a
bank
if
they
were
to
pay
off.
The
full
amount
council
could
also
choose
to
waive
interest
if
they
wanted
to
as
well.
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There's
eighty-four
thousand
four
hundred
and
eighty
dollars
on
11
properties
that
are
in
this
old
system
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it,
but
some
of
them
have
been
put
in
there
in
24
in
2014.
Now
there
are
several
here
that
I
think
in
maybe
three
years
time
can
pay
off
the
old
debt
and
maybe
be
working
on
the
new
one.
But
this
is
just
I,
don't
know
how
we
got
here.
How
did
we
get
here
with
this?
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How
did
this
even
who,
who
made
the
payment
plan
it's
at
something
like
this
at
a
hundred
dollars
a
month
for
a
tax
bill,
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
taxes,
I
mean
we
got
to
do
something.
This
is
not
right,
especially
to
the
text
payers,
who
actually
pay
their
bills
on
time
and
are
struggling
to
do
it.
This
doesn't
even
make
sense
to
me
at
all.
I,
don't
know
where
this
came
from,
but
I
don't
know.
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And
whether
they
even
have
the
credit
but
I
can't
I
can't
see
giving
them
three
months
or
whatever
to
pay,
because
some
of
these
is
not
going
to
happen,
they're
going
to
lose
their
house
I,
don't
know
what
the
hundred
percent
solution
would
be,
but
we've
got
to
do
something
with
this,
because
this
is
just
I
mean
I
can't
this
is
ridiculous.
I
can't
imagine
that
this
is
even
was
allowed
to
happen
and
I
know
it
was
another
administration.
But
did
somebody
come
along
and
say,
hey
look
at
this?
Are
they
paying
their
bills?
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I
would
suggest
that
we
make
a
list
of
the
ones
that
aren't
going
to
come
out
of
the
hole
here
at
all
and
deal
with
those
and
decide
a
time
frame,
and
you
know
you
say
three
months,
but
today
get
mortgages.
I,
don't
know
how
long
that
takes
takes
a
while.
So
you
know
we
don't
want
to
put
anybody
out
of
their
house
if
that
well.
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There
there
are
a
few
changes
in
the
budget
presented
here
tonight
compared
to
the
budget
that
was
originally
presented.
The
largest
changes
that
health
insurance
premiums
have
come
in
at
only
five
percent
higher,
rather
than
the
seven
percent
we
had
budgeted.
Other
changes
based
upon
discussions
at
the
forms
were
public
works,
capital
improvement
amount.
Now,
janitorial
services
for
municipal
emmys,
put
back
in
the
assistant
city
manager
position
has
been
put
back
in
council,
discussed.
Reducing
the
fire
department
reserve
account.
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I
do
not
recommend
that
change
I'm
talking
with
chief
CC
about
the
projected
capital
improvement
plan.
There
were
a
few
things
missing
from
the
original
plan,
while
the
trucks
were
there.
Other
equipment,
such
as
replacing
the
hydraulic
aerial
pump
for
the
lighter
truck
scba
replacements
and
jaws
replacements
were
not
so
those
would
all
need
to
be
factored
into
the
five-year
plan.
In
order
to
meet
the
updated
plan,
we
should
be
putting
75,000
into
the
account
in
2016.
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Accordingly,
over
reduced
capital
funding,
the
budget
presents
its
night.
We
have
seventy
four
and
a
half
ftes.
This
is
up
one
from
the
October
report,
because
the
council
cousin
says
this
was
to
reinstate
these
city
manager.
Position
in
the
general
fund
cost
for
full-time
staff.
Paying
benefits
is
about
fifty
two
percent
of
the
operating
budget.
Citywide,
including
the
enterprise
budgets,
full-time
staff,
is
about
fifty
seven
percent
of
all
city
funds.
D
Well,
the
city
has
great
employees
that
pitch
in
and
go
the
extra
mile
I
am
worried
if
two
more
positions
are
eliminated,
there
will
be
severe
negative
impacts
on
the
rest
of
the
staff.
Majority
of
the
staff
already
are
already
doing
so
many
jobs,
there's
not
much
if
any
extra
capacity
left
I
would
hate
for
the
city
to
lose
any
more
good
staff
due
to
burn
out
from
being
understaffed,
overworked
and
underappreciated
we're
to
reduce
staff
to
have
no
tax
increase.
D
I
believe
this
will
become
a
bigger
problem
for
the
city,
we're
also
continuing
to
fall
further
behind
compensation,
not
just
to
a
40-ton
comparison
that
was
used
for
the
wage
and
classification,
but
we're
also
falling
behind
in
what
other
communities
in
Aroostook
County
pay
their
employees.
This
is
part
of
the
problem.
The
city
is
facing
and
recruiting
people
to
fill
the
open
positions
that
we
have.
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Additional
and
public
works
for
asphalt,
swirling
putting
2,200
thousand
for
chip
sealing
in
2016
with
just
these
things
along
the
2017
budget
would
need
to
be
up
144
thousand
dollars,
that's
before
we
know
any
of
the
other
fixed
increases,
such
as
health
insurance,
property
insurance
workers,
comp
etc,
with
the
state
continuing
to
break
its
promise
to
the
citizens
of
Maine
and
not
funding
revenue
sharing.
The
city
continues
to
face
tough
choices
to
which
there
is
no
easy
answer,
providing
a
fair
amount
of
information
that
the
council
requested
during
the
budget
forums
on
staffing.
D
Also
ambulance
runs
from
2010
and
some
estimated
cost
of
what
some
of
the
unfunded
mandates
are
on
the
city
of
Kevin.
With
that
cost.
Most
of
those
numbers
are
based
upon
staff,
I'm
using
a
fully
burdened
labor
rate
and
an
estimated
number
of
hours
spent
on
each
task,
including
trainings.
We
do
need
to
have
a
public
hearing
tonight
and
we
can
discuss
the
budget
further.
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The
amount
captured
in
the
TIF
district
is
all
based
upon
the
mill
rate.
If
we're
going
to
capture
a
hundred
percent
of
what
we
can.
It's
the
most
cost
effective
way
to
the
city,
because
it
offsets
what
we
would
have
to
pay
in
county
taxes
and
school
taxes,
and
also
you
get
more
from
revenue
share.
So.
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So
there
was
a
lot
of
comments
that
were
being
talked
about
as
to
how
municipalities,
fun
Chamber
of
Commerce
or
so
I
was
trying
to
see
if
there
was
some
easy
numbers
that
can
be
accessed
so
called
the
state
of
Maine
chamber
commerce
and
asked
them
how,
throughout
the
other
communities
they
handle
this
and
didn't
really
have
a
ready
answer.
So
they
were
gracious
enough
to
send
me
a
directory.
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A
lot
of
them
provide
a
great
service
to
their
communities,
such
as
providing
relocation
packages
for
people
coming
into
the
market.
It's
a
great
first
stop
off
for
a
lot
of
people
new
to
our
community.
Lot
of
concerns
about
relocating
here
call
the
chamber
of
commerce.
It's
a
pretty
common
practice
of
the
three
that
didn't
fund
from
their
municipality
to
the
chamber.
Commerce,
one
had
recently
disbanded
the
other
one
I,
don't
know
if
they
truly
understand
what
I
was
asking
for.
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This
pounds
going
to
do
with
the
cat
down
support
this
I
know
it's
been
a
difficult
transition
over
the
past
few
years,
where
being
a
department
of
the
city
and
now
on
their
own,
but
I,
think
more
so
than
just
that.
The
money
itself
is
that
what
that
message
is
sending
we
presumed
to
be
certified
business
friendly,
and
so
my
only
question
to
you
through
this
process,
citizens
as
you
go
about
spending
our
dollars
here
in
the
city.
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So
you
know
our
resources
from
that
standpoint
of
attracting
businesses
are
through
the
city.
We
do
support
the
chamber
to
the
tune
of,
I
don't
know
nine
thousand
dollars,
you
know
paying
phone
bills
and
pay
and
eat
and
everything
else
in
power
and
so
on.
So
you
know
this
is
the
support.
Is
there
from
that
standpoint
and
I
think
we
made
the
comment
at
the
last
meeting
that
I
think
city
council
will
continue
to
give
that
support.
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One
of
the
things
that
struck
me
is
in
research
in
that
as
the
city
of
angular,
and
they
do
an
area
chamber
of
commerce
and
a
lot
of
the
municipalities
around
them.
You
know
is
involved
so
I,
wonder
and
I
I
talked
to
the
manager
about
this
earlier
today,
and
you
know,
is
there?
Is
there
a
avenue
to
you
know,
connect
with
central
Aroostook
and
has
there
any
savings
there?
I
don't
know,
but
I
did
get
similar
results
and
I
do
think
that
you
know
the
chamber
I'm
support
of
the
chamber.
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It
probably
maybe
we
talked
about
that
too,
and
it
probably
would
be
winterized
and
not.
You
know.
That
was
a
conversation
we
had
to
that.
If
the
chamber
wasn't
there
because
there's
not
there's
not
activity
that
goes
through
there,
you
know
like
it
used
to.
As
far
as
looking
at
the
you
know,
the
collections
and
stuff
like
that
and
I
know
we
had
mentioned
about
if
they
weren't
here,
that
would
probably
would
be
winterized
or
some.
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Almost
fifty
two
hundred,
which
comes
to
a
grand
total
of
almost
forty
four
thousand,
this
is
funny
that's
not
showing
up
in
the
budget
for
the
city
of
care.
It
is
not
coming
out
of
the
pockets
of
the
taxpayers.
This
learning
that's
actually
cooking
it
because
your
staff,
your
professional
staff,
do
this
and
what
might
also
say
at
almost
forty
four
thousand
dollars.
You
know,
I,
don't
cover
second
position.
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Any
counselors
I
think
it's
a
I,
think
we've
actually
my
opinion
moved
backwards
from
the
last
one.
We
had
a
budget
that
was
65,000
sixty-two
thousand
dollars
less
than
the
previous
year.
Now
we're
a
budget,
that's
86,000
boobs
over
and
we
moved
25
thousand
of
them
compensate
funds,
balance
taking
15
away
from
the
chamber.
Oh
I,
don't
think
this
is
a
step
forward.
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Think
one
thing
that
people
probably
don't
realize
because
it
surprised
me,
but
there
are
unfunded
mandates
that
the
city
has
to
pay
for
and
they
cost
the
city
one
hundred
and
sixty-six
thousand
two
hundred
forty
dollars
a
year.
This
is
stuff
that
the
city
has
to
pay
for
that
they
don't
get
back
state
says
or
the
federal
government.
Probably
the
st.
mostly
says
that
they
have
to
do
all
these
and
you
can.
J
Should
we
like
Austin
said
that
we
would
have
to
perhaps
let
go
to
more
people
to
meet
the
budget.
So
do
we
take
somebody
out
of
one
place
to
put
them
in
the
library?
I,
don't
know
what
the
answer
is,
but
yeah
we're
I
think
we're
going
to
end
up
looking
at
a
little
bit
of
a
tax
rate
increase,
whether
we
like
it
or
not,
because
I
just
don't
know
where
I
don't
see.
I,
don't
think
that
we
can
cut
anybody
else
and
operate
this
city
effectively.
I
just
don't
see
it.
Mike
can
I.