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From YouTube: October 24, 2016 Council Meeting
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Presenter
I
have
a
great
cast
with
me
time:
bill
King,
Austin
and
I
have,
along
with
a
few
other
folks
in
the
community
of
come
together
with
a
broad
coalition,
with
the
hopes
of
uncovering
the
opportunities
that
may
exist
with
trying
to
expand
rural
broadband.
I
don't
go
into
too
much
of
the
history
of
it,
but
essentially
from
all
points
in
Caribou
we're
looking
to
try
to
deploy
broadband
internet
when
are
only
two
sure.
B
By
what
method
just
yet
and
that's
a
lot
of
what
this
study
has
meant
to
help
us
procure
as
well
as
it's,
it's
meant
to
take
a
look
at
the
current
infrastructure
to
give
us
an
opportunity
to
say
well,
this
is
what's
currently
being
deployed.
Is
this
enough?
What's
the
cost
of
doing
nothing
as
well
as
going
all
the
way
to
fiber
to
every
single
go
and
household
here
and
careful?
B
Now
we
feel
as
though
that,
based
on
the
internet
question
here
that
we
put
up
the
community
that
there
are
certainly
enough
interested
in
us
exploring
this
opportunity.
So
this
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
be
able
to
potentially
uncover
a
service
that
what
we
feel
as
those
is
a
utility
in
its
birth
and
more
than
likely,
you
know,
none
of
us
have
seen
utility
for
into
an
existence
like
deer
in
the
house.
B
I
theorize
that
at
some
point
time
in
the
future,
whether
it's
50
years
or
250
years,
that
there
will
be
an
Amir
again
that
will
be
making
our
payments
too,
and
wouldn't
it
be
nice
to
have
had
the
forethought
think
about
making
those
payments
to
something
that
potentially
you
know
the
city
could
improve
and
keep
in
204
736
those
profits
being
made.
I
think
there's
very
few
opportunities
for
us
in
the
future
to
look
for
additional
revenue
streams
to
help.
B
You
all
do
the
things
that
you
need
to
do
in
maintaining
the
increase
in
the
services
to
the
citizens
and
to
continue
to
help
Karen
grow.
It's
an
interesting
time,
because
if
you
look
at
the
weigh-in
and
it
was
current
currently
being
deployed
in
the
for-profit
sector,
it
really
could
be
argued
that
it's
really
being
not
deployed
in
the
most
efficiently
possible.
Quite
frankly,
I'm
not
sure
how
long
you
would
ever
take
for
us
to
be
able
to
see
some
of
the
broadband
speeds
here
and
caribou
I
mean
I'm
receiving
my
lifetime.
B
If
we
wait
for
the
current
situation
to
unfold
at
some
point
in
time,
it's
going
to
be
deployed,
you
know
non
monopolistic,
unnatural
monopoly
wet
where
there's
going
to
be
one
player,
who's
going
to
be
able
to
make
a
certain
amount
of
profit,
which
is
the
way
the
PUC
matches.
The
ledger.
Companies
that's
more
than
likely
going
to
come
out
of
this.
So
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
explore.
B
C
There
are
a
number
of
areas
in
the
community
that
currently
do
not
have
access
to
high-speed
internet
&,
cable
and
only
small
handful
of
people
have
access
to
speeds
over
50
megabits
down
and
no
one
has
speeds
of
50
megabits
up
the
minimum
proposed
to
be
that
the
caribou
broadband
coalition
and
it's
looking
is
100
megabits
per
second
up
and
down
as
availability
of
faster
broadband
speeds
has
shown
significant
positive
impact
on
local
economies.
This
project
is
something
the
sarahbooth.
The
city
caribou
should
certainly
be
proud
of.
C
The
CGC
and
the
council
discussed
this
point
in
their
past
few
meetings
as
well.
The
Coalition
is
requested
proposals
for
companies
to
help
in
the
planning
of
the
broadband
business
plan.
Specifically,
we've
looked
for
proposals
that
will
provide
the
city
with
a
ten
year
financial
pro-forma,
including
a
profit
and
loss
statement,
balance
sheet
and
income
statements.
One
will
also
provide
the
city
with
a
highly
detailed
projection
of
revenue,
expense,
net
cost,
subscription
rate
projections,
capital
expenses
and
build
out
plans.
C
It
would
also
look
at
governance
and
ownership
ownership
strategies
looking
at
whether
or
not
it
should
be
municipally-owned
an
operator.
A
public-private
partnership.
Part
of
the
proposal
will
also
be
financing
options,
including
grants,
partnerships
etc
and
also
the
infrastructure
proposals.
So
the
committee
received
seven
proposals
from
different
firms
that
it
interviews
with
three
of
the
companies
based
upon
the
proposals
in
the
interviews.
Tilson
is
best
suited
out
of
all
the
companies
to
lead
us
through
the
study
work
with
us
to
gather
the
information
and
provide
the
best
broadband
business
plan.
C
G
The
only
comment
I'll
provide
is
now
we're
in
a
lot
of
communities.
Almost
all
communities
I
work
with
almost
all
of
them-
are
studying
this
very
thing,
I'm
glad
to
be
on
the
broadband
committee.
It's
opened
my
eyes
to
a
lot
of
different
things,
a
lot
of
potential
economic
development
scenarios
and
I'm
in
favor
of
this.
This
move
forward.
A
Well,
I
guess
I'm
probably
one
of
the
dumbest
ones
up
here
about
the
internet,
so
I'll
probably
have
to
ask
a
lot
of
stupid
questions.
I
mean
to
me
I
understand.
We
have
high
speed
internet
here
now,
I
mean
I've
talked
to
probably
40
or
50
people
here,
since
I've
heard
about
this
study
and
ask
all
of
them.
If
what
they
have
today
is
meeting
their
needs
and
from
out
of
that
50
people
I
say
there
was
two
that
probably
said
it
wasn't,
but
they
didn't
have
the
high
speed
internet
that
was
available
to
him.
A
Today
they
had
a
fair
point
and
if
they
would
have
gone
to
time
warner
to
the
50
megabyte
service,
I
would
think
they
would
have
all
the
speed
they
want
so
I
mean.
My
obvious
question
is
how
many
companies
are
there
in
Caribou
that
are
left
here,
because
we
don't
think
we
couldn't
meet
their
needs
with
the
internet
service
that
they
required?
How
many
have
left
and
ya
know
how
many
companies
have
looked
at
coming
here
and
changed
their
mind
because
I
speed
internet
that
they
required
wasn't
here?
It's.
C
So,
if
you
talk
with
the
local
Realtors-
and
this
was
one
of
the
comments
provided
on
the
survey
responses-
that
they've
had
tough
time
selling
some
houses
because
there's
the
lack
of
internet
available
in
those
locations,
so
this
would
provide
Internet
to
every
household
and
caribou
at
a
high
speed.
There.
G
On
the
business
side
of
things,
a
good
example
is
my
business
I.
We
have
several
offices
around
North,
America
and
I
have
to
access
other
servers
in
all
those
multiple
offices
for
different
files
and
very
large
files
that
work
with
CAD
files
are
several
Meg's
in
size
and
that's
very
difficult
to
do
with
the
speeds
that
we
work
with
right
now.
What's.
G
A
G
G
B
A
B
So,
let's
take
a
look
at
what
that
deployment
of
that
service
in
that
industry.
It
is
doing
right
now,
Ross,
the
US.
The
state
of
Oregon
is
in
a
nasty
two
million
two
hundred
million
dollar
lawsuit
against
comcast
because
of
their
inability
to
provide
this
level
of
service
that
they
need.
The
internet
industry
right
now
is
actually
vilified.
B
This
industry,
and
so
therefore
they
need
to
squeeze
out
as
much
profit
as
they
can
for
as
long
as
they
can.
It
only
makes
sense.
I
would
either
one
making
that
decision.
If
I
was
sitting
in
that
CFOs
chair,
I
haven't,
did
the
exact
same
thing:
that's
what
they're
meant
to
do
is
develop
profitez,
for-profit
companies,
and
so
what
happens
in
the
thick
of
them
is.
B
It
may
not
be
in
their
best
interest
to
build
out
an
infrastructure
here
in
care,
because
the
return
on
investment
may
not
be
the
best
highest
and
best
use
of
their
investment
dollars.
That
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
our
interests
along
with
theirs.
So
we
try
to
think
about
where
we
want
be
20,
30,
40
years
down
the
road.
We
want
to
understand
that
we
have
the
infrastructure
setup
to
attract
the
people,
that
we
want
to
have
a
community
to
help
us
out
to
the
tax
base,
and
you
know
this.
B
This
is
definitely
an
opportunity
for
us
to
see
if
we
can
make
this
work
right
now.
It's
I'm
theorizing
that
the
internet
industry
is
operating
at
this
profit
margin
and
as
they
go
up
for
five
megabytes,
10
15
20
25
30
there
along
gating
their
revenue
stream
for
as
long
as
possible,
while
not
investing
in
their
current
infrastructure,
so
they
can
take
out
as
much
profit.
It
makes
sense.
B
What
we
want
to
do
is
go
into
the
future
where
we
know
it's
going
to
have
to
operate
at
a
certain
profit
margin
and
bring
that
into
existence
now,
so
we
can
start
to
put
together
a
product
that
could
be
as
good
as
twice
the
bandwidth
at
half
the
cost.
It
wouldn't
that
be
nice
to
know
that
we
were
on
the
forefront
of
that.
The
study
will
help
us
allow
to
understand
it
as
a
possibility.
B
A
C
A
C
D
A
A
C
A
B
B
D
D
A
A
A
B
No
I
mean
if
you
shop
and
you
really
and
you
have
opportunities
going
past
your
door
more
than
one.
Then
you
may
have
the
opportunity
to
purchase
something.
But
the
truth
is
it's
not
a
consistent
experience?
Not
everybody
has
the
same
opportunities
as
everyone
in
the
average
cost
of
that
monthly
fee
is
I.
A
B
A
Mean
I,
you
know,
I
can
revel,
I
mean
I,
guess,
first
of
all
of
it,
my
first
reaction
to
this
stuff.
All
the
time
is:
why
are
we
trying
to
compete
with
private
companies
that
are
in
this
business?
I
mean
I,
don't
see
that
the
municipal
government
should
be
in
that
position
of
competing
with
private
companies.
I
can
see
us
trying
to
go
and
work
with
the
private
company
and
do
something
but
to
compete
with
them
all.
C
H
Bottom
line,
I
think,
is
if
we
do
nothing,
then
10
years
from
now,
thirty
percent
of
us
will
be
over
65.
If
we
can
spend
eighty
thousand
this
year
to
tear
down
birds
eye
or
part
of
it,
I
think
we
can
spend
forty
thousand
on
a
chance
to
bring
people
into
this
town
that
will
be
less
than
65
years
old.
D
A
D
A
C
B
I'll
just
give
you
this
to
think
about.
We
are
using
our
state
funded
with
the
revenue
sharing,
which
revenue
sharing
is
a
form
of
consumption
tax.
Coming
back
to
us,
pro
rata
share,
so
for
the
first
time
in
almost
a
half
a
century,
you
know
all
the
towns
and
municipalities
across
the
state
having
to
deal
with
a
missing
portion
of
their
revenue.
Consumption,
tax
and
I
believe
that
there
are
only
a
few
safe
avenues
to
help
build
back
that
consumption,
tax
and
I
think
that
utilities
is
a
safe
place
for
municipal
governments
to
offer.
D
A
Well,
I
will
tell
you
that
I
mean
you
say:
the
revenue
sharing
has
gone
down
and,
yes,
it
has,
but
the
last
two
years
we've
seen
a
change
in
homestead
exemption,
which
some
ways
returns.
Revenue
to
us
and
I
know
that
the
state
is
currently
looking
at
what
other
possibilities
there
are
they
want
to
get
it
right
directly
back
to
the
taxpayers,
mind
you
not
through
the
municipality
but
either
way
if
it
benefits
Tasha,
Meares
I,
think
it's
great
I'll.
A
A
That's
those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
concern
me
do
I.
Think
a
bunch
of
people
are
going
to
move
here
and
everything
because
a
high-speed
Internet,
I'm,
sorry
I,
don't
there's
all
kinds
of
places
that
have
I
speed,
internet
I
love
to
see
the
population
grew
up,
but
you
know
most
people
need
jobs
when
they
come
somewhere.
If.
C
D
B
E
11
of
the
twenty
percent:
that's
over
65
and
I
test
up
17
on
my
computer
and
I've
worked
at
home
for
years,
and
I
really
got
along
just
fine
with
what
I
have,
and
I
personally
think
that
forty
6500
is
too
much
money
to
pay
for
a
study
for
something
that
may
down
the
road
be
profitable
or
not.
But
I
just
I
think
that
there
are
other
places
that
we
can
put
the
money
into
the
infrastructure
in
in
our
city
right
now.
E
A
Thing,
of
course,
mike
is
the
fact
that
you
know
if
this
is
such
a
great
deal
and
you're
talking
about
twice
the
speed
and
half
the
price
and
all
this
money
that
the
taxpayers
are
going
to
be
able
to
save
in
the
future
and
so
on.
Why
don't
you
run
this
business?
Why
don't
you
started
as
a
private?
Individual
I
mean
you'll,
be
a
multi-millionaire
here
before.
B
B
A
A
B
A
A
F
D
F
Ask
that
question
a
couple
of
times:
yeah,
some
of
the
things
I
took
took
away
from
it
are
and
I
think
I've
brought
it
up
is
that
we
got
to
look
at
a
volume
before
we
do
this.
Okay
and
the
survey
I,
don't
think
what
qualifies
to
satisfy
the
requirement
of
the
buy-in
so
because
you've
got
people
that
are
already
probably
dealing
with
three
different
private
entities
at
the
time
we
speak
we're
going
off
of
broadband
broadband
alone.
F
You
know
it
may
be
some
time
in
that
millennial
in
the
future
that
TV
and
the
for
may
come
across
that
particular
broadband
system
in
Dave,
right,
James,
right,
Gary's,
right
everybody
sit
here.
That
has
an
opinion
about
it
is
correct,
but
some
of
the
other
things
that
I
took
from
some
of
the
interviewees
was
that
nobody
has
taken
this
on
in
the
state
of
Maine
100%
municipal
there's
a
partnership.
F
It
is
a
costly
endeavor,
even
initially,
because
you're
talking
about
eighteen
to
twenty-two
thousand
dollars
per
mile,
that's
just
be
a
vibrant.
What's
it
going
to
cost
for
the
infrastructure
who's
going
to
maintain
it?
You
know
we're
going
to
build
another
department
within
within
the
municipality
and
then,
when
the
private
sector
does
see
what
we're
doing,
then
the
competition
is
going
to
start
and
I
think
that
one
of
the
companies
that
we
discussed
brought
that
up
and
discussed
it
in
a
wee
bit
of
in-depth
and.
C
A
B
When
you
talk
about
return
on
investment,
the
only
answer
I
give
is
is
the
lesson
we
all
learned
in
the
game
of
Monopoly.
Would
you
rather
own
boardwalk,
which
are
at
their
own
on
the
railroads,
there's
a
reason
why
it's
only
going
to
pay
so
much
rent,
so
people
want
Boardwalk
has
been
okay
along
all
right.
A
B
B
B
B
Questions
that
would
look
how
to
answer
it's
a
great
conversation
I
enjoyed
it,
but
if
you
can
bet,
but
that's
the
reality
is,
is
that
this
is
going
to
be
an
industry.
That's
not
going
to
be
as
sexy
and
as
the
for-profit
is
right.
Now
it
is,
is
it's
in
the
hated,
but
as
we
see
him
we're
at
the
end
of
the
line
here,
non-sunni
investment
in
power
now.
E
A
G
G
G
A
A
You
know
where
we're
located
here.
There's
communities
that
aren't
that
far
away
from
us
that
are
doing
quite
well
and
I,
don't
know
why
we're
not
going
to
talk
to
them
and
find
it
out.
Why?
What's
the
difference
and
I'll
tell
you
surprisingly,
they're
just
across
the
border
I
look
at
Grand,
Falls
New
Brunswick,
whose
population
has
arisen
in
the
last
ten
years
who
have
stores
up
there.
A
That
would
even
make
Presque
Isle
jealous
with
the
stores
they've
got
and
they
remind
us
I
mean
they've
got
a
huge
Canadian
Tire
up
there,
they've
got
a
Kent
building
supply,
which
is
likely
lows.
They've
got
a
superstore
that
you
could
put
all
the
groceries
and
care
of
the
weed
and
still
have
room
left
over
and
then
look
at
Woodstock
New
Brunswick
down
a
little
something
same
thing:
I
mean
the
population
has
grown
in
these
cities,
they're
getting
more
and
more
retail
business
at
stores.
A
H
B
B
B
C
Next
item
on
the
agenda
recently,
the
city
went
out
for
RFP
for
our
auto
proposals
required
by
the
city
charter.
We
request
a
quote
for
auditing
services,
thought
fiscal
years
2016
through
2018.
We
received
four
proposals
back
over.
Only
three
of
them
must
met
the
entire
scope
of
the
request:
alright
charge
smithing
company
Buxton
Maine
15,000
for
each
of
the
three
years.
C
They
meet
the
scope
of
the
work
but
did
not
include
preparation
of
MDMA,
also
consulting
and
accounting
services
outside
the
autodoc
charge,
an
hourly
rate,
125
250
dollars,
felching
company
right
here
in
town,
2016,
16
thousand
dollars
going
up
to
sixteen
thousand
five
hundred
twenty
eighteen.
They
meet
the
scope.
The
RFP
additional
consultation
and
accounting
services
have
not
been
invoiced
to
the
city
in
the
past
running
first
in
turn,
will
let
South
Portland
Maine
17,000
250
raising
to
17,000
750
in
near
2018.
The
cost
is
based
on
the
expected
scope
of
work.
C
If
additional
time
is
expend
dillon
current
hourly,
we
did
incur
an
hourly
charge
of
80
to
200
ten
dollars
per
hour,
depending
upon
who
was
providing
the
service.
The
company
that
did
not
meet
the
scope
of
work
that
came
in
at
ten
thousand
dollars
their
timeline
for
doing
the
federal
audits
was
after
the
june
thirtieth
deadline.
They
also
want
to
start
that
until
July
they
didn't
include
anything
about
mdna
or
outside
consultations
in
their
proposals.
C
So
those
are
the
three
reasons
why
we
did
not
say
that
or
we
said
that
they
did
not
meet
the
scopes.
Staff
also
has
concerns
about
their
ability
to
complete
the
audit
within
the
prices
that
they
stated
there.
So
if
a
new
auditor
is
utilize,
it
is
more
likely
to
incur
additional
costs
with
possible
of
New
Gatsby
standard
implementations
in
the
next
few
years.
This
could
get
costly,
felching
company
has
provided
us.
Auditing
services
in
the
past
is
not
charge
anything
extra
when
we
call
them
with
questions.
C
E
E
C
A
E
A
E
C
E
G
G
Data
I
think
so
and
when
I
talked
to
the
manager
about
this
to
you
know,
I
think
there
are
some
things
that
we
can
try
to
cut
back
on
the
capital,
budgets,
I.
Think
there's
we
need
to
also,
I
think
it's
a
you
know,
I
think,
there's
a
middle
ground.
We
can
come
too
I,
don't
see
us
being
at
a
net
zero
as
far
as
Texas
going
up,
I'm
still
at
the
belief
that
we
should
incrementally
every
year
increase
the
taxes
as
we
as
we
need
to.
G
D
A
H
A
Okay
in
the
evening
on
november,
the
third
will
be
open
till
seven
o'clock,
but
only
for
voter
registration
and
absentee
ballots
anything
else.
Any
other
business
make
a
motion
to
adjourn
upcoming
meeting
good
sorry,
monday
november,
fourteenth
regular
council
and
muddy
november
28,
Ranger
Council
and
next
tuesday,
or
I
guess
a
budget
workshop.
Is
it
we're
going
to
talk
about
capital
improvements?
It
was
it's
a
budget
workshop.