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A
Welcome
to
the
March
12th
here
with
City
Council
meeting,
we
have
two
councilors
absent
I,
don't
know!
Why
could
we
please
rise
for
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance?
Would
you
remain
standing
after
the
pledge
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
United
States
of
America
and
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands?
One
nation.
B
A
C
Doug
Morel
v
Sullivan
Drive.
Thank
you
for
the
time
to
make
this
presentation
I'm
going
to
direct
this
to
the
town
manager.
I
once
served
on
the
City
Council
and
during
my
tenure
there
was
a
capital
improvements
program,
a
program
that
was
designed
to
set-aside
funds
each
year
to
number
one
maintain
our
current
city
assets
in
a
condition
of
B
grade
or
better
number,
two
to
maintain
our
current
city
assets
into
the
future.
C
With
a
set
aside,
funds
to
maintain
a
B
grade
or
better
assets
were
defined
at
that
time
as
such
items
as
vehicles,
fire
trucks,
police,
cars,
plows,
etc,
roads,
office
equipment,
personnel,
equipment,
parking
lots
and
buildings.
Before
my
council
time,
monies
were
accumulated
and
placed
into
different
accounts
within
the
CIP.
C
During
my
time
this
was
a
self-funding
program
that
allowed
for
proper
maintenance
of
our
city
assets
with
very
little
or
no
tax
increase
to
the
Cariboo
taxpayer.
I
can
remember,
then
city
manager,
Steve,
but
often
referencing.
The
fact
how
positively
unique
Carol
was
to
have
this
self
financing
program
based
on
the
documents
that
I've
received
to
date.
C
It
surprises
me
now
to
find
that
our
policy,
our
police
and
fire
buildings
have
have
fault,
fell
to
such
a
disrepair
that
building
an
eight
million
dollar
new
Public
Safety
Building
is
the
only
answer
to
meeting
the
needs
of
Carol
to
help
me
better
understand
not
only
the
city's
financial
situation
but
building
conditions.
I
would
like
to
request
at
your
convenience
a
copy
of
the
actual
capital
improvements
program,
expenditures
for
the
past
three
years,
along
with
2018
projected
expenditures,
also
any
independent
asset
audits
or
leading
to
the
condition
of
our
entire
city
own
buildings.
D
D
D
Well,
you
know
I've
been.
This
is
Benna
bailiwick
of
mine
for
quite
a
long
time.
Tax,
increment,
financing
and
I
didn't
realize
how
bad
it
was
until
I
researched
it
today
a
little
bit
and
didn't
take
me
long
to
know
that
the
taxpayers
taking
it
on
the
chin
with
some
of
this
stuff
according
to
Wikipedia
TIF,
is
a
public
financing
method
used
as
as
a
subsidy
for
redevelopment
infrastructure
and
community
improvement
projects.
D
D
D
Tiff's
are
publicly
funded
by
the
state.
Creating
more
state
taxes
for
residents
of
the
state
state
of
Maine
could,
at
some
point
in
time,
classify
this
as
a
unsustainable
burden
and
create
legislation
to
do
the
same
as
California
and
place
the
burden
of
unintended
consequences
on
the
local
taxpayers
and
for
the
city,
which
already
has
I
quote
unsustainable
high
taxes
could
have
a
critical
and
devastating
effect
on
what
little
economy
we
have
left
in
our
community.
D
E
D
D
D
D
An
open
discussion
on
the
pros
and
cons
of
a
TIF
policy
and
program
would
be
helpful
to
the
community
in
developing
a
growth
plan.
Nothing
is
free
here.
The
costs
are
just
transferred
back
to
the
taxpayers
and
if
the
state
back
side
of
this
creates
legislation
to
back
out
of
this
and
never
pay
again,
the
unintended
consequences
lay
on
the
city's
back
I
would
urge
the
council
to
take
more
time
and
deliberation
in
future.
Policies
such
as
tax,
increment
financing
and
I.
D
Think
that's
something
that
we've
got
to
discuss
before
you
allow
any
other
Tiff's
within
the
city
of
terrible
limits.
Now
I've
got
there's
a
lot
more
discussion
on
this.
That
I
could
come
up
with,
but
I
don't
want
to
take
all
night
here
because
it
would
take
all
night
and
but
before
you
allow
any
more
Tiff's
and
careful
be
very
careful
what
you
do,
how
you
do
it?
Who
you
do
it
for?
D
Because
if
you
read
up
on
it
it'll
scare
you
there
is
there
isn't
a
state
in
the
Union
right
now
that
hasn't
used
it
and
there
isn't
a
state
in
Union
right
now
that
isn't
getting
rid
of
it.
Now.
Okay,
because
California
right
now
is
buried
in
debt
and
they
were
the
first
ones
to
come
out
with
it.
So
we
don't
want
to
have
the
problems
that
they
have.
G
B
E
H
My
bill
flag
from
Caribou
and
last
summer
I
attended
a
conference
on
gerontology
and
there
was
a
a
workshop
on
age,
friendly
communities
and
I
chose
to
attend
that
workshop
and
it
was
fascinating.
What
work
was
being
done
in
many
communities
around
the
country
in
the
state
to
make
more
communities
more
livable
for
people
as
they
age
and
looking
at
care
of
demographics.
That
41%
of
our
population
is
over
age
50
and
more
than
20%
is
over
age.
H
65
I
thought
it
would
be
a
good
opportunity
for
caribou
to
look
at
the
possibility
of
being
recognized
as
an
age
from
the
community,
so
I
met
with
the
manager
and
Ken
and
we
completed
an
application
submitted
it
to
AARP
and
they
approved
the
application
making
Carol
the
first
age
friendly
community
in
Aroostook
County.
There
are
46
other
communities
in
the
county
in
the
state
that
our
considered
age
friendly,
but
there
wasn't
one
in
Aroostook
County
up
until
up
until
we
received
this
recognition
happy
to.
H
H
Our
goal
is
to
set
up
a
volunteer
committee
that
will
work
to
look
at
some
of
the
issues
that
we
think
could
improve,
accessibility
and
other
we're
already
doing
an
awful
lot
and
Kara
before
our
seniors.
We
have
a
great
residential
community
here,
where
seniors
can
age
in
place,
which
is
the
big
goal
that
everybody
talks
about
now
wanting
seniors
to
be
able
to
live
in
their
homes
as
long
as
possible
and
you'll
see
as
you
as
you
look
at
some
of
that
information.
H
H
So
we
will
be
eligible
for
that,
grant
that
we
will
apply
for
it
and
then
begin
a
planning
process,
and
we
certainly
welcome
the
input
of
the
manager
of
the
council
we'd
love
to
have
a
member
of
the
council
who
may
have
interested
in
this
particular
area.
If
you'd
be
interested
in
working
with
that
committee,
I
do
plan
to
work
with
ken
Murchison
and
again
this
will
be
volunteer
activities
that
we
dub
primarily
evenings
monthly
meetings.
Probably
some
subcommittee
work
in
between,
but
I
was
really
pleased
with
the
managers
response
to
this.
H
We
had
a
AARP
came
to
Presque
Isle
and
we
had
the
meeting
in
Presque
Isle,
and
it
was
very
interesting
that
they
were
saying
that
there
wasn't
a
community
with
age-friendly
and
Ken,
had
our
application
all
completed
to
hand
over
to
the
director
of
the
program,
and
they
were
really
excited.
So
you
know
we're
really
pleased
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
If
anybody
has
any
comments
or
questions.
E
E
Haney
Milo
Haney,
to
help
him
restore
his
gas
tanks
up
at
his
property,
and
we
have
requests
this
year
from
two
businesses
to
seek.
After
these
funds.
One
was
for
the
veterans
of
Maine
a
form
of
Hope
facility,
and
the
other
is
mr.
Jordans
childcare
facility,
and
we
received
information
back
from
the
state
that
the
form
of
Hope
did
not
qualify
as
a
project
for
this
particular
type
of
CDBG
funding,
but
mr.
E
Jordans
did,
and
so
in
order
for
her
to
move
forward
with
this
process,
the
city
has
to
have
a
public
hearing
to
present
out
to
the
public
the
proposal
of
the
project
and
get
public
input
for
that
and
at
a
future
meeting,
the
City
Council
will
actually
have
to
adopt
a
formal
resolution
approving
the
submittal
of
the
application,
which
is
still
in
the
process
of
being
finalized.
But
the
gist
of
the
project
is
that
Miss
Jordan
Rossignol.
She
has
an
existing
childcare
facility
here
in
Caribou
because
of
the
the
demand
for
her
services.
She'd
like.
B
E
Space
and
she's
looked
at
the
city's
property
that
we
own
a
sixty
access
highway
and
feels
that
that
is
sufficient
for
them
to
be
able
to
go
in
occupy
12,000
square
feet
of
that
space.
Now
that's
currently
being
used
as
just
cold
storage,
and
they
would
go
in
utilize.
Some
of
these
CDBG
funds
to
renovate
the
space,
of
course
working
with
the
city
since
we
own
the
building
renovate
that
for
their
needs
and
be
able
to
grow
their
their
business.
It's
projected
that
they
would
add
15
staff
members
to
their
business.
E
The
way
it
works,
the
city
would
receive
the
funding
we'd
work
with
the
applicant
to
disperse
that
as
work
gets
them
and
if
it
comes
down
to
where
the
economic
indicators
aren't
met,
that
they've
said
they
would
be
able
to
achieve.
Then
there
would
have
to
be
some
paying
back
of
these
funds,
which
again
we
would
work
with
the
business
owner
to
to
take
care
of
that
as
needed.
But
tonight
it
is
a
opportunity
for
the
public
to
come
in
and
voice
any
concerns
or
support.
E
We
might
have
for
the
project
and,
as
I
understand,
there's
quite
a
few
in
the
audience
tonight
that
would
like
to
share
their
thoughts
and,
if
I
I
might
for
those
that
are
going
to
speak
tonight.
If
you
come
up
to
the
microphone
state,
your
name
and
then
we
also
need
to
have
you
sign
in
as
attending
the
meeting.
You've
Jains
already
got
that
going
around
so.
I
My
name
is
Derek
Michaud
I've
been
an
employee
at
mr.
ins
for
a
little
over
a
year.
Now
the
place
has
been
great.
It's
been
an
awesome
experience.
Jordan
has
a
really
exceptional
program.
Put
together
for
kids
start
them
as
early
as
two
months,
and
then
it
goes
up
to
five,
so
basically
take
them
right
up
into
kindergarten.
The
program
itself,
that's
constantly
developing
Jordan,
puts
a
lot
of
hard
work
and
effort
into
it
as
a
whole.
I've
noticed
a
big
difference
between
kids
that
attend
our
daycare
and
other
daycare
and
I.
I
For
example,
we
do
some
projects
dealing
with
holidays
from
other
cultures
or
we
celebrate
a
lot
of
our
own
national
holidays
and
in
regards
to
social
skills.
We
deal
a
lot
with
teaching
the
kids
to
kind
of
avoid
clicks.
You
know
like
everyone's
like
their
own
friend
and
whatnot.
We
do
a
lot
with
nutritious
meals,
etc,
but
I
mean
yeah.
It's
it's
a
really
good
great
place.
It's
been
a
lot
of
fun
to
work
at
especially
as
a
man.
I
It
was
kind
of
sad,
but
there's
really
seems
to
not
be
too
many
male
influences
in
the
childcare
field.
So
having
the
chance
to
be
a
male
influence
for
for
kids,
two
months
to
five
years
to
spend
great
and
I
think
it's
done
a
lot
for
them
as
well
in
regards
to
them
developing
as
people
and
potentional
potential
community
members,
so
yeah.
F
J
Name
is
Mike
McCartney
and
I
work
at
the
main
school
of
science
of
mathematics
in
limestone
and
I'm,
the
2016
heuristic
County
Teacher
of
the
Year,
and
when
my
my
wife
and
I
made
the
decision
to
move
our
our
kids
from
the
well
move
our
son
from
the
daycare
that
he
was
in
to
Jordans.
It
was
you
know.
Initially,
it
was
a
hard
decision
to
move
our
child
from
one
place
to
another.
J
J
Jordan
is
in
personal
touch
with
the
parents
and
the
students
all
the
time
and
as
someone
who
who
has
has
worked
in
education
for
his
entire
life,
I
can't
if
I
had
to
sit
down
tomorrow
and
design
a
school
to
send
my
own
children
to
I
couldn't
do
as
good
a
job
as
as
what
Jordans
done.
It
really
is
an
absolutely
phenomenal
place.
J
That
I
brought
you
over
that's
right
and
so
I
can't
support
this
enough.
I
really
think
that
the
more
the
more
students
that
Jordan
is
preparing
in
the
northern
Maine
area,
the
better
all
the
schools
in
northern
Maine,
will
be
as
a
result
and
and
the
the
more
welcoming
the
more
diverse,
the
more
wonderful
the
community
will
be
here.
So
I
I
can't
say
enough
good
things
for
Jordan.
K
Good
evening,
everyone
Christi
st.
Peter
I,
live
on
19
Collins
Street
in
caribou,
echoing
their
comments,
I
have
four
kids
that
go
to
Jordans
I
appreciate
all
this
stuff,
because
our
community
really
does
does
need
Jordan
in
our
community
and
to
broaden
what
it
has
I
work
at
DFS.
There's
a
lot
of
people
out
there
that
are
looking
for
child
care
and
unfortunately,
Jordan
has
to
turn
a
lot
of
people
away,
because
her
building
is
just
not
big
enough
to
have
more
people
and
her
wait
list
is
continuing
to
grow.
K
K
So
there's
a
lot
of
good
things
that
not
only
from
just
child
care
and
you
know,
raising
little
Patrick
up
into
caribou,
but
it
also
brings
a
lot
of
you
know
a
lot
of
community
or
a
lot
of
revenue
to
our
community
to
that
I
think
is
important
to
totin
to
know
so.
I
I
echo
all
their
comments.
I
think
you
guys
said
you
know,
could
consider
it
and
I'm
open
to
any
questions
that
you
may
have
I've
been
with
Jordan
since
she
opened,
and
it
was
the
best
decision
that
we
had.
K
D
L
Currently,
a
teacher
at
miss
Jordans
I,
remember
the
day
my
wife
came
home
from
work
having
a
steady
job,
40
hours
working
at
a
bank
having
weekends
off.
She
came
home
and
told
me,
you
know
what
this
isn't
what
I
want.
This
is
my
passion
and
every
other
teacher
in
that
building.
That
is
their
passion,
whether
it's
what
they
went
to
school
for
or
what
they
wanted
to
do.
L
To
begin
with,
that
started
out
as
a
small
school,
and
it's
grown
tremendously,
even
in
the
last
year
year,
to
show
that
Miss
Jordan
says
brought
in
kids
from
pretty
much
near
to
Fort
Kent
and
there's
kids
from
Westfield
the
whole
state
of
Maine
being
on
Presque
Isle
fire
being
in
the
Maine
Army
National
Guard,
and
being
a
technician
for
Goodman
networks,
I'm
all
over
the
place,
I'm
in
people's
houses.
Today,
I
was
in
four
houses
in
Caribou
and
I
saw
mother's
home
from
work
with
their
kids
because
they
couldn't
find
childcare.
L
I
believe,
personally,
that
if
you
give
mr.
Owens
this
opportunity
and
what
she
needs
to
expand,
not
only
will
it
affect
caribou,
it
will
affect
the
state
and
it
will
affect
the
state
20
years
from
now
when
one
of
these
kids
becomes
the
next
mayor
when
the
one
of
them
opens
up,
whatever
Pat
wants
to
do
a
Star
Wars
little
Star
Wars
shop,
what
he
does
and
as
far
as
every
one
of
those
teachers
going
in
to
work
every
day,
it's
not
an
easy
job.
L
I
mean
my
wife
is
pregnant,
not
even
having
the
kid
here.
It's
already
rough.
It's
a
lot
of
work
in
each
one
of
those
teachers
goes
in
there
with
a
smile
on
their
face.
Putting
whatever's
aside
puts
everything
aside,
knowing
that
at
least
once
a
day
in
Miss,
Jordans
they're
gonna
get
miss
Jordan,
I
love,
it
you're.
My
preschool
teacher
mr.
Jordan
I
love
that
I
love
that
you're
my
best
friend
or
even
miss
Maddie.
Your
hair
isn't
so
cute.
Today,
I
love
you
as
my
teacher
for
stuff,
like
that.
L
Not
every
kid
is
going
to
be
honest
and
tell
the
teacher
how
they
feel,
but
the
bond
between
the
teachers
in
that
school
and
the
bond
between
the
families
in
that
school.
It's
more
of
a
group
like
Derek
said
it's
not
about
cliques,
and
it's
not
about
groups,
because
not
one
kid
is
not
loved
any
different
and
the
opportunity
for
more
kids
to
be
loved.
That
way,
it
would
be
great.
A
G
E
Before
before
this
can
gets
made
to
the
state,
they
have
to
get
all
the
the
complete
application,
which
does
include
the
financials
and
and
all
of
those
you
know
the
business
models
and
everything
else
for
you
to
review.
For,
for
you
to
feel
comfortable
as
a
council
submitting
this
to
the
state
and.
G
E
F
K
E
E
F
A
F
A
B
F
F
E
Mayor
and
council
we've
occasionally
as
a
city,
picks
up
properties,
either
through
our
own
acquisition
or
through
tax
process,
some
of
them.
We,
we
have
a
program
that
we've
been
utilizing
over
the
past
couple
of
years
to
clean
up
blighted
properties
and
to
get
rid
of
potentially
hazardous
buildings
there.
E
As
we
look
at
this
coming
year,
there's
three
properties,
two
of
which
are
on
Patton
Street,
29,
Patton,
Street
and
32
Patton
Street,
which
are
old
buildings,
we've
owned
them
for
quite
some
time,
and
it's
been
proposed
that
they
become
part
of
our
blight
cleanup
program.
Also,
we
recently
acquired
66
York
Street
through
a
tax
acquisition
again
another
building
that
is
nearly
falling
in
on
itself
and
really
would
not
be
a
good
candidate
for
resale
to
somebody
else,
without
possibly
having
some
liability
there
and
so
we're.
E
Looking
at
those
three
single-family
homes
being
city-owned,
buildings
were
required
by
the
State
Department
of
Environmental
Protection
to
conduct
asbestos
abatement.
We
don't
believe
that
that's
been
done
for
those
three
single-family
homes,
and
so
we
don't
know
what
kind
what
type
of
remediation
would
be
necessary
in
those
three
buildings,
but
we'd
like
to
utilize
city
funds,
to
move
forward
with
that
through
our
slum
and
blight
removal
program.
E
The
other
two
buildings
that
are
on
the
list
in
the
Senkakus
cool
we
recently
were
deeded
that
property
from
the
RSU
as
part
of
the
the
overall
new
school
land
swap
program.
They
have
completed
an
asbestos
study
for
that
building
and
determined
the
study
came
back
can
indicate
that
it
was
needed
in
the
amount
estimated
at
twelve
thousand
two
hundred
dollars
to
go
in
there's
some
small,
a
small
area
floor
tile
and
some
pipe
wrap
that
would
need
to
be
cleaned
out
of
that
building
before
it
can
be
torn
down.
E
Just
quick
reminder
that,
as
part
of
the
relocation
of
Teague
Park
and
the
National
Park
Service,
we
had
to
find
an
additional
park
area
to
to
build
or
improve,
and
the
same
clock.
School
site
was
one
of
those
designated
acreage
for
this
new
park
and
we
have
to
have
that
school
down
within
two
years
now
from
from
that,
and
so
we
need
to
move
forward
fairly
quickly
with
the
remediation
of
the
asbestos
and
getting
that
torn
down
and
then
also
the
hilltop
elementary
school
that
property
I've
seen
deeds.
E
It
was
my
understanding
that
the
school
district
did
to
sign
that
over
to
the
city
and
it
just
hadn't
been
reported
yet,
but
late
last
week
we
found
out
that
they
have
not
signed
the
deed
over
to
the
city
yet,
but
everything
is
in
order
to
do
that
fairly
quickly,
and
so
they
are
also
looking
at
they've
done.
An
asbestos
study
on
that
building
and
the
estimated
cleanup
from
that
report
is
two
hundred
thirty
three
thousand
dollars
in
talking
with
the
Cariboo
assisted
living
group.
Who
would
be
the
end
owner
of
that
building?
E
They
think
they
can
do
it
for
a
lot
less
than
that,
but
we'd
have
to
put
it
out
to
bid
to
see
the
the
city
right
now
has
a
budget
of
$75,000
for
slum
and
blight
removal,
and
we
can
utilize
those
funds
to
get
as
much
of
this
work
done,
as
as
we
can,
the
hilltop
school
and
even
the
syn-coll
school.
The
RSU
has
budgeted
for
that
cleanup
with
the
the
off
chance
that
the
TIF
doesn't
move
forward
in
that
project
doesn't
move
forward.
E
The
school
district
would
be
responsible
to
make
sure
all
of
that
asbestos
cleaned
up
before
and
so
definitely
the
work
at
the
hilltop
school.
It
was
anticipated
that
the
hilltop
cleanup
would
be
handled
through
the
TIF
process.
All
the
tax
increment
funds
would
go
towards
offsetting
the
cost
for
that
cleanup
and
the
syn-coll
school.
A
B
E
A
E
We
I
guess
it's
a
recognition
that
if
the
city
is
going
through
this
process-
and
we
put
it
out
to
bid
the
contract
is
going
to
be
with
the
city
and
so
the
contract
for
those
whatever
those
amounts.
Ultimately
are.
That
is
the
contract
with
us,
and
then
it
would
be
up
for
us
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
security
in
place
from
the
RSU
and
the
developer
before
we
execute
the
contract
and
let
them
move
forward
with
the
work.
M
E
We
well
as
a
city-owned
building.
We
would
want
to
put
it
out
to
bid
just
to
make
sure
the
prices
that
are
coming
in
as
they
themselves
as
the
developer.
First
thing
we're
going
to
do
it
they're
going
to
contract
out
to
somebody
else
to
come
in
and
do
the
work,
but
you're
right
yeah.
It
doesn't
ultimately
is
their
responsibility
and.
E
B
E
N
M
M
M
E
C
A
M
The
way
the
way
I
would
read
it,
those
guys
would
be
ultimately
our
shoes
names
going
to
be
honored
they
because
they
own
the
building
last,
but
if
somehow
the
city
care
whose
name
is
on
it,
that
means
in
my
interpretation,
we
could
send
somehow
be
on
the
hook
for
the
cost
of
our
going.
Yet,
regardless
of
how
all
of
these
properties
end
up
changing
hands,
so
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
We
all
understand
that
which
one
you're
saying
is
with
sing
cool,
it's
a
little
more
known
what
with
hilltop
it's
unknown.
A
E
A
Can
I,
when
I
pass
through
some
land
many
many
years
ago,
from
one
person
to
another,
we
all
sat
in
the
same
room
and
did
it
at
the
same
time
so
that
we
I
that
the
person
we
were
doing
with
on
the
owner
for
like
about
30
seconds,
but
everything
that
followed
the
next
day
we
physically
have
to
take
ownership
until
we
know
we're
gonna
officially
get
rid
of
it.
We.
E
M
E
Sooner
than
that,
and
part
of
that
is
because
the
TIF
district
that
taxing
current
finance
district,
which
would
be
in
put
in
place
for
the
elementary
school
that
is
not
going
to
be
ready,
probably
until
July,
but
for
tax
purposes.
They
want
to
make
sure
that
they
don't
take
hardship
until
after
April
1st.
That
way
that
come
in,
but
on
the
taxes
stays
as
a
zero
value.
Right
now
and
when
I
get
submitted
to
the
state
for
their
review
on
the
TIF
district,
now
base
value
stays
at
a.
B
D
E
We're
basic
for
the
two
schools
again:
it's
basically
because
we
own
it
or
school
loans
that
were
kind
of
just
being
that
it's
similar
pass
through,
but
we're
taking
the
lead
on
the
contract
for
those
I'm.
Even
the
RSU
asked
that
that
we
take
the
lead,
because
it's
a
project
specifically
benefiting
Caribou,
whereas
RSU
represents
more
than
just
caribou
events,
that
we
we
take
the
lead
for
that.
One.
M
F
F
E
G
M
E
Honestly,
the
City
Council
you've
determined
the
passing
councillors
remand
that
you
wanted
to
get
that
project
up
and
operating
as
quickly
as
possible.
Well,
they
want
to
be
open.
This
fall
late
fall
in
order
to
make
that
work
in
order
to
do
that,
they
need
to
have
the
asbestos
find
out
as
soon
as
possible,
and
that's
probably
not
going
to
happen
until
even
if
we
put
this
out
to
bid
next
week
and
all
the
stars
online
and
the
contractor
is
available
and
ready
to
go
within
two
weeks
of
an
award.
O
E
G
F
E
I
guess
it's
just
a
question
of
the
the
process
of
who's
that
who's
hiring
the
contractor
to
do
the
work
and
what
is
the
value
that's
being
established
with
that
again?
Where
we
are
we
own
the
building
now
and
it's
worked
for
us,
we
could
say
basically
sit,
have
a
separate
agreement
with
the
Sauber
construction,
who
was
agreed
to
do
that.
Work
and
just
say
contracts
with
you
and
you
go.
E
E
B
B
A
F
G
E
So
the
the
implications
of
that
are
implications,
but
some
of
the
the
nuances
of
that
would
be
the
again.
The
TIF
district
was
anticipated
to
pay
for
the
cost
of
the
abatement
of
the
asbestos.
In
that
they
would
take
ownership.
They
would
do
all
their
construction,
they
debate,
they
would
open
up
for
business
and
those
new
tax
dollars
would
in
a
sense,
be
utilized
to
reimburse
the
cost
of
all
the
abatement
if
Karl
or
not,
if
the
Cariboo.
E
This
is
a
living
group,
if
they
bear
that
cost
and
those
TIF
dollars
would
go
back
to
them
to
help
that
out.
If
the
school
district
utilizes
its
funds,
then
we
would
need
to
come
back
and
revisit
the
credit
enhancement
agreement
and
make
it
so
that
the
assisted
living
group
would
get
less
reimbursement
from
TIF
dollars,
and
those
portion
of
those
dollars
would
go
back
to
reimbursing
the
school
district
for
that
expense.
So
it's
it's
just
a
matter
of
who's,
going
to
do
the
work
and
making
sure
that
we
have
the
enhancement
agreement
drafted.
J
A
A
C
M
A
M
A
E
P
A
E
Of
my
discussions
with
table
that
our
public
works
director
was
that
a
road
may
make
it
on
this
list
for
two
reasons,
one
is
that
we
personally
don't
think
it's
able
to
handle
that
weight.
The
other
is
that
other
townships
have
restrictions
in
their
City
on
that
weight,
and
if
we
don't
put
those
same
restrictions
on
our
roads,
then
trucks
travel
down
our
roads,
and
then
they
don't
have
a
way
of
turning
around,
except
by
driving
on
the
adjacent
townships.
Roads
really
have
a
weight
limit,
so
part
of
it
is
being
neighborly
with.
E
Mayor
and
council
we've
per
your
direction.
We
went
and
looked
at
our
ordinances
that
those
types
of
businesses
which
occasionally
come
to
you
in
which,
for
the
most
part,
there's
never
been
any
issue
with
you
approving
and
looking
at
it
could
we
handle
those
administratively
and
try
to
speed
up
that
process
for
certain
businesses
and
looking
at
the
city's
ordinances,
a
not
charter
but
the
city's
ordinances.
There
is
a
list
that
Jayne
our
city
clerk
has
put
together,
and
perhaps
she
can
walk
you
through
those
within
the
staff
memo.
E
We
require
by
ordinance
that
the
municipal
officers
quote
municipal
officers
are
the
ones
that
approve
these
licenses
and
by
our
own
ordinances,
that
is
defined
as
the
City
Council
and
also.
Similarly,
in
state
law.
Municipal
officers
is
defined
as
the
legislative
body
of
the
city,
and
so
things
like
taxicab
licenses,
dealers
in
junk
and
second
articles,
pawn
brokers
and
hawkers
itinerant
photographers
lunch
wagons,
special
amusement
permits
licenses
for
the
sale
of
liquor
and
hauling
of
garbage,
refuse
and
waste.
E
All
of
those
different
businesses
currently
have
to
come
to
you
for
your
approval,
even
rush
and
say
that
the
licenses
for
sale
of
liquor,
we
also
have
in
the
ordinance
that
were
required
to
have
a
public
hearing
before
you
before
action
can
be
taken
on
those
licenses
under
state
law.
We're
not
required
to
have
a
public
hearing.
We
may,
if
we,
but
we're
not
required
to
have
one
for
new
liquor
licenses
and
so
we've
at
this
point
in
their
ordinances.
E
We've
we've
taken
a
stricter
policy
than
what
the
state
requires
as
far
as
those
are
concerned,
and
so
we
we
have
this
on
your
agenda
tonight
for
more
discussion.
We
can't
just
we
can't
just
have
you
say:
staff
go
ahead
and
start
taking
care
of
that,
because
it's
in
the
ordinances
we'd
have
to
bring
back
a
code
amendment
to
to
make
sure
that
all
of
that
gets
cleaned
up
appropriately.
But
if
you
want
to
add
anything
to
that.
E
There's
any
question
on
those
from
the
council:
I
personally
had
to
look
up
by
tenant
photographers.
Basically,
that
was,
people
would
set
up
on
the
sidewalk
and
they
would
have
their
cameras
and
they
would
say,
hey,
come
I'll.
Take
your
picture
for
a
dollar.
It's
it's
those
types
of
businesses
that
we
really
don't
see
anymore.
With
the
the
day
of
selfies
selfies.
G
E
O
O
I
I
think
it
should
come
to
the
council
for
first
time,
liquor
license
and
special,
amusement
and
I
think
there
should
be
a
public
hearing
on
the
first
time.
But
after
that
it's
I
would
see
staff
make
those
decisions.
Okay,
but
you
don't
even
have
to
happen
the
first
time
it's
a
it
is
men
and
about
50%
of
the
communities
in
the
state
and
I
got
this
from
the
state
liquor
licensing
delegate
it.
The
municipal
officers
delegated
to
other
staff
members
could
be,
the
town
manager
could
be
the
city
clerk.
O
E
If
you,
if
you
want
to
have
a
public
hearing,
and
we
would,
we
could
set
up
a
venue
for
public
hearings-
I'm,
not
people
come
in
and
do
that
or
as
Jana
suggested
we
could.
You
could
still
have
the
public
hearing
on
the
liquor
licenses,
at
least
for
an
initial
review,
and
then,
after
that,
it
gets
the
the
struggle
that
we
have
with
with
each
of
these
licenses
is
the
most
part,
they're
regulated
by
state
code,
what
they
can
and
can't
do
or
buy
our
own
ordinances
and.
B
E
It's
a
pretty
defined
line.
Are
they
doing
this
or
not
yes
or
no,
and
with
regards
to
public
hearings,
the
concern
is
the
public
may
come
in
and
you
know
like
it
or
they
want
to
stop.
But
if
you,
if
the
boxes
are
all
checked
legally,
we
can
stop
it,
and
so
the
the
public
process
really
is
in
the
establishment
of
the
standards
for
review
and
if
the
public's
involved
with
yes
we're
okay
with
those
requirements
and
the
ordinances,
the
way
they
are
snap
can
administer
those
very
easily.
E
A
A
A
O
These
are
things
that
are
in
the
code.
These
are,
these
are
licenses
in
the
code,
but
back
in
I
believe
it's
1989
you've
delegated
to
the
City
Clerk's
office
for
off
catering
Paris's.
So
you
have
a
business
in
town.
Take
the
brew
pub
brew
pubs
going
to
do
Thursdays
on
Sweden
Street
this
summer.
They
need
to
get
an
off
catering
premise
permit
from
the
clerk's
office,
because
I
was
delegated
that
authority
back
in
1989,
so
I
sign
off
on
those.
So
you've
you
don't
even
see
those
anymore.
O
Sometimes
they
would
a
few
years
ago,
I
believe
when
buck
was
here
you
delegated
BYOB
to
the
police
chief.
Those
don't
come
to
the
council
anymore.
They
go
to
the
chief
I
would
hope
outside
of
these
code
ones,
the
ones
in
the
code
book
that
you
will
delegate
to
myself
or
to
the
chief
expansion
of
liquor
licenses
the
expansion
of
the
premises.
O
You
just
ratified
one
tonight,
because
that
is
sometimes
something
that's
a
time
factor
and
either
delegate
it
to
me
or
delegate
it
to
the
police
chief,
but
I'm
not
going
to
issue
it
if
I.
If
I
get
that
delegated.
To
me,
I'm
not
gonna
issue
it
without
running
it
by
the
police,
chief,
Koval,
forcement
officer
and
in
the
fire.
She.
F
A
F
It
should
this
is
just
a
final
step:
I
mean
we're
gonna,
take
the
recommendation
of
the
police
chief
or
whatever
anyway
and
say
yes,
so
this
just
eliminates
this
step
because
you've
already,
we
don't
go
out
and
physically
inspect
the
taxicabs
or
things
like
that.
So
we
would
just
take
your
recommendation.
Anyways
and.
B
F
O
First
time
you
come
in
front
of
the
council
I'm
much
more
comfortable
with
that
than
making
the
first
time
decision
with
them,
but
the
liquor
license
or
have
it
delegated
to
that
decision.
But
it's
all
it's
it's
three,
three
people
that
are
making
a
recommendation
code,
fire
chief
for
the
health
officer
and
police
officer,
our
taxicabs,
every
every
vehicle
and
rubbish
truck
rubbish,
hauler
is
inspected
by
the
police
department.
They're
signed
off
on
it.
He
and
I
sign
off
on
their
wage
of
their
make
charts.
O
E
B
A
Just
sometimes
we
don't
sometimes
people
don't
ask
questions,
because
the
system's
working,
great
and
everything's
the
formality
of
doing
something
just
to
get
that
stamp
of
approval,
just
kind
of
keeps
everything
in
check
and
not
that
anyone's
checking
on
anybody.
But
it
just
kind
of
we,
as
a
council
Mobile
in
our
business
community's
doing
it's
their
chance
to
come.
Tell
us
what
they're
doing
because
their
licenses
and
it's
a
very
smooth
running
operation
and
I've,
never
known
it.
A
O
E
We
get
just
the
bad
ones
controversially
or
for
the
best
ones
are
the
best.
The
concern
I'm
sure
is
not
so
much
the
time
that
it
takes
on
the
council's
of
debt.
It's
more
the
the
process
and
the
timing
from
the
applicants.
Side
of
you
mean
I
have
to
go
through
one
more
stand
up,
one
more
delay
and
it's
part
of
that
being
a
little
more
business
friendly
from
the
city
side
of.
B
A
O
A
G
M
G
E
G
G
The
other
question
I
have
is
I,
think
we're
supposed
to
get
a
second
payment
from
the
Department
of
Education.
For
just
like
we
got
this
year's
all
mixed
up.
Just
like
we
got
this
year.
Okay,
you
think
we're
supposed
to
get
that
to
do
instalments.
Yes,
isn't
one!
We
just
got
this
the
first
one,
okay,
I,
don't
think
that's
included
in
here.
Yeah.
E
E
No,
the
first
one
was
only
half
the
first
one
was
only
half
of
the
total
correct.
E
G
E
Mayor
and
council,
this
document,
the
2018
tax,
increment
financing
districts
policy,
is
the
final
document
based
on
the
comments
that
I
received
from
the
work
session
that
was
held,
and
it
includes
with
it
statement
about
tics
would
no
longer
be
or
the
credit
enhancement
agreements
would
not
be
a
tool
that
the
city
would
utilize
with
retail
establishments
unless
they
would
be
creating
a
minimum
of
ten
new
full-time
equivalent
jobs
which
pay
a
hundred
percent
of
the
area.
Median
income.
E
That,
if
you
want
to
debate
that
or
discuss
that
more,
we
we
can,
if
you
want
to
make
those
have-nots
discussion.
We've
also
put
in
here
that
the
development
would
have
to
be
bringing
taxable
the
tax
value
equal
to
or
greater
than
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
order
to
be
considered
for
a
TIF
district
that
was
discussed.
G
G
Currently,
we
have
in
the
in
the
ordinance
I
think
in
which
chapter
off
the
top
we
have
four
or
five
or
something
like
that
reference
to
what
we
do
as
far
as
tax
incremental
financing
and
it's
minimal
and
in
fact
that
this
is
going
to
supplement
that
and
or
support
that,
then
probably
it
ought
to
be
part
of
the
ordinance
and
not
a
policy
in
the
separate
locations.
You
know,
maybe
it's
check
count.
E
Some
of
it
is
already
always
incorporated
into
the
policy,
but
we
can
certainly
go
through
this
and
make
sure
that
both
are
coincident,
and
you
know
I'm
not
opposed
to
creating
it
back
ordinance
and
and
formally
out,
isn't
he
lovely?
So
we
would
we
drafted
in
a
Norman's
forum.
It
be
read
in
that's
your
next
meeting
and
then
we'd
scheduled
a
public
hearing
and
so
you'd
be
may
before
the
changes
or
are
made
effective
if
it.
If
it
goes
that
way,
what
you
have
your
public
hearing
and
me
and
then
take
action.
A
A
A
I'm,
all
for
going
after
the
big
fish,
so
to
speak,
that's
really
nice,
but
a
lot
of
our
development
could
also
come
from
small
businessmen
and
women
who
are
already
here.
We
want
to
expand
a
little
something
might
employee
one
person
or
add
to
the
tax
base
by
50
or
$60,000.
That
project
won't
equal
1.5
million
dollars,
so
they
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
are
taking
this
tool
were
allowing
the
big
fish
to
use
and
I
thought.
A
I
would
think
that
we
would
want
to
try
to
keep
this
tool
as
open
to
everybody,
as
we
can
I'm
trying
to
think.
When
was
the
last
time
we
had
a
1.5
million
dollar
development
and
terrible
and
it's
you
can
mention
one
or
two,
but
it's
not
as
common
as
someone
who
might
want
to
start
a
small
little
business.
I'd
like
to
see
my
personal.
A
You
know
when
farmer
mark
little
just
two
hundred
thousand
dollar
campground
site
and
I
come
in
and
say
you
know
it
takes
four
or
five
years
for
me
to
get
this
thing
up
and
running,
I'd
like
to
have
a
tip
on
based
on
occupancy
rate
for
the
first
I'm
occupy
for
40%
of
the
time.
I'll
pay
40%
of
my
taxes.
At
the
end
of
five
years,
I
paid
100%
on
every
site,
whether
it's
bullying
on
but
the
cost
of
that
product
I
got
it
penciled
in
under
both
$200,000.
A
N
A
E
A
Not
common
correctly
from
wrong,
it's
not
common
to
use
Tim,
but
retail,
and
that
was
that's
part
of
the
policy.
So
we'd
have
to
go
back
and
change.
We
agreed
in
workshop
that
we
would
not
do
shifts
for
retail
unless
there
was
the
ten
million
to
ten
jobs
or
you're
redeveloping
like
like,
like
hilltop,
you
know
from
something
that.
A
Something
that
becomes
taxable
those
are
the
guidelines,
but
there's
a
lot
of
things
out
there
that
could
be
developed
that
aren't
that
would
exclude
them.
Well,
that's
fine!
We
can
lower
that.
If
you
want,
you
know,
I,
don't
have
a
problem
with
that
and
we
can
I
mean
we
can
look
at
the
number
of
jobs
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
but
I
mean
I'm
luck.
I,
don't
want
to
confuse
what's
up
here
under
retail
yeah,
I
know
and
what
I'm
trying
to
say
down
here
under
this.
What
up?
A
E
P
E
E
M
E
E
If
they
add
value
to
their
property
in
some
way,
the
city
is
already
going
to
be
receiving
those
funds
back
to
benefit
the
TIF
district.
It's
just
a
matter
of.
Do
we
want
to
if
we're
going
to
be
getting
those
revenues
anyway?
How
do
we
want
to
use
those
funds?
Do
we
want
to
use
it
for
the
benefit
of
the
entire
district,
or
do
we
want
to
create
individual
credit
enhancement,
improvements
for
every
new
store
or
expansion
that
that
gets
traded
in
those
areas?
And
that
again,
is
probably
council?
E
E
They've
done
their
projections
and
that's
going
to
work,
there's
not
really
a
hurdle
there.
It
would
just
be
a
additional
benefit.
Then
are
those
the
projects
that
you
want
to
consider
using
TIF
dollars
for
or
do
you
want
to
reserve
that
for
the
bigger
fish,
as
you
said,
it's
is
it
the
the
manufacturer
that
can
bring
in
twenty
jobs,
as
opposed
to
manufacturer
retail,
it's
going
to
bring
you
in
50
jobs.
Well,
if
I
think
in
either
case
you
would
say,
hey
it's
jobs
to
the
area.
E
We
want
to
do
what
we
can
and
then
it's
again
it's
just
a
matter
of.
Are
we
reserving
this
for
the
big
fish
for
the
the
industrial
or
do
we
want
to
support
all
businesses
that
can
help
the
area?
There's
been
a
push
in
the
legislature
this
year
to
take
away
the
abilities
for
cities
to
even
consider
retail,
that
cities
could
only
utilize
TIF
dollars
for
pine
trees,
our
findings
on
eligibility
or
major
industrial
businesses,
mixed-use
projects
and
basically
saying
cities,
you're
you're,
not
quite
using
this
right.
E
We
want
it
to
only
incentivize
major
development,
major
influx
of
cash
into
the
into
the
economy.
So
it's
again
it's
just
a
matter
of
how
do
we
want
to
use
the
tool
and
how
much
do
we
anticipate
the
states
going
to
strip
us
everybody
to
use
it
in
the
future?
And
that's
what
comes
down
to
these?
These
triggers
they're
setting
and.
E
Summer,
for
instance,
only
the
last
part
if
they
want
to
create
a
service
industry
and
rent
it
out
and
create
a
you
know,
a
recreation
hostel
or
hotel
type
of
environment
or
RV
park.
You
know,
maybe
he
has
to
run
a
major
sewer
line
or
build
some
major
infrastructure
that
he's
just
talking
about
to
make
this
work.
E
Unless
there's
a
tax
increment
district
to
help
cooperate
some
of
those
major
infrastructure
costs,
that's
certainly
something
that
under
a
TIF
district,
we
can
look
it
up
and,
of
course,
we
could
coordinate
with
the
district
and
we'd
find
out
how
much
that's
gonna
cost
and
who's
it
going
to
serve
us
and
who's
having
the
impact
but
utilizing
the
TIF.
You
could
reimburse
those
a
portion
of
those
expenses
or
all
the
expenses
and
through
credit
enhancement
agreements.
If
the
TIF
district
is
created.
A
M
A
Number
for
that,
if
I
understand
it
correctly,
that
the
project
in
retail
would
have
to
create
1.5
million
dollars
and
else
that
tax
value
and
then
all
other
categories
would
be
zero
and
just
there's
a
little.
There
could
be
some
development
on
the
smaller
end
of
the
scale,
and
this
is
abuse.
Do
it
attach
those
outside
of
recap
and.
B
A
A
A
B
G
E
Point
it's
informational
under
the
city
charter,
the
one-year
evaluation
is
supposed
to
be
made
public
and
final
action
taken
by
the
City
Council.
So
this
is
a
six-month,
but
it's
made
public
as
well.
So
the
information
that's
in
the
response.
It
was
done
wrong
this
way,
and
so
it's
just
for
information,
the
council
and
it.