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A
We
pray
for
our
country
at
all
times
that
all
citizens
are
safe,
healthy
and
happy.
We
pray
for
the
wisdom
for
all
of
those
who
guide
and
govern
help
this
government
body
in
every
situation
to
know
and
to
do
things
that
are
right
and
just
with
soundness
of
judgment
in
making
vital
decisions.
We
pray
for
the
peacemakers
that
the
holy
life-giving
spirit
may
never
dwell
in
their
hearts
and
the
barriers
of
fear,
suspicion
and
hatred
may
fall.
This
we
pray
to
the
Holy
Father
amen.
A
B
B
C
Good
evening
my
name's
Roger
Felix
to
live
in
Fenderson
Street
Caribou
mine's,
more
of
a
open
general
comment
directed
to
the
council
man,
there's
a
lot
of
negativity
floating
out
there
in
this
community
right
now,
and
we've
got
to
look
at
the
reasons.
Why
really
up
close
and
personal
reasons
why
this
beatin
up
on
different
departments
within
our
own
community
that
service
our
community,
because
we're
looking
at
bottom-line
budgeting
and
we're
not
looking
at
the
reasons
why
it's
got
to
stop?
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
that's
got
to
stop.
C
Okay,
I
almost
brought
my
copy
of
Armageddon
in
here,
because
I've
been
watching
these
council
meetings
over
the
last
month's
and
I
hear
everything
from
our
population
is
crumbling
to
nothing,
we're
not
business
friendly.
We
can't
do
this.
We
can't
do
that.
We
got
to
do
everything
in
executive
session.
Why.
C
C
But
if
you
want
to
point
fingers,
one
of
your
line
item
budgets
went
from
two
hundred
and
forty
four
thousand
or
correction
excuse
me
two
hundred
seventy
thousand
to
three
hundred
forty
four
thousand
now,
if
my
numbers
are
correct
and
the
number
of
people
eliminated
from
caribou,
as
some
people
have
come
here
and
said,
even
though
the
population
negara
boo
in
2014
was
seventy
eight
hundred,
and
now
it's
a
little
over
seventy
nine
hundred,
so
I
gotta,
ask
you
guys.
Was
it
three
hundred
millionaires
that
left
caribou
in
the
last
ten
years?
C
C
The
citizens
of
caribou
will
tell
you
that
budget
is
not
the
issue
when
it
comes
to
that.
It's
the
service.
Okay,
so
I
ask
you
that
you
know
because
I
always
hear
of
sitting
on
these
things
and
I
hear
that
I've
even
heard
that
we're
not
business
friendly
a
couple
weeks
ago.
That
really
drove
me
crazy,
but
then
I
got
thinking.
I'm,
like
you
know,
caribou
really
hasn't
been
this
huge
business,
attracting
city
forever.
C
Well
sure
we
had
processing
plants,
we've
had
mom-and-pop
stores
who
have
had
things
of
that
nature,
but
caribou
is
always
ruled
upon
its
values
as
a
community.
We
have
always
been
the
place
where
homeowners
come
and
raise
their
family.
This
notion
that,
if
we
just
put
it
all
our
eggs
in
a
basket
to
bring
in
businesses,
let's
look
at
the
true
problems
with
our
population
base.
Yes,
we
lost
300
people.
What
type
of
population
have
we
lost?
We
are
losing
homeowners
right,
we're
losing
taxpayers
into
that
system.
C
Okay,
those
taxpayers
on
average
have
two
cars
which
we've
lost
excise
tax
increments
as
well.
Okay,
there's
all
these
that
who's,
replacing
them
I
guarantee
if
you
go
down
through
it
and
I'm
not
being
cruel,
but
the
people
that
were
replacing
that
population
base
that
we
lost
are
non
taxpaying
citizens
that
are
using
and
abusing
the
services
that
all
the
taxpaying
citizens
who
are
paying
for
it.
C
Okay,
if
you
don't
believe
that
buy
a
scanner
okay,
because
I
have
heard
the
same
ambulance,
crews
that
we're
trying
to
beat
down
and
blame
the
actual
workers
go
out
and
pick
up
people
with
a
broken
toe,
constipation,
okay,
and
who
do
you
think's
paying
for
that?
They
don't
have
any
insurance
we're
paying
for
that
hey.
So
we
need
to
focus
on
how
do
we
bring
in
more
homeowners?
Okay,
we
got
a
her
any
day
fund.
I
heard
there
was
like
$800,000
in
it
now.
Why
don't
we
try
to
invest
in
to
our
people?
C
It
could
be
as
simple
as
you
know,
what
we
try
to
give
tax
breaks
to
all
the
businesses
coming
in.
Let's
give
a
tax
break
to
a
homeowner,
you
come
in,
you
buy
a
home
and
care
about
you're,
a
single-family
home
owner.
We
take
care
of
your
taxes
the
first
year
we'll
invest
$200,000
into
our
community
to
get
you
in
here
and
then
once
that
happens
over
two
to
three
years.
Those
people
bring
it
in
those
automobiles
and
buying
at
our
local
stores
that
pay
off
we'll
be
paid
for.
C
So
all
I'm
saying
is,
you
know
we
got
to
come
together
as
a
unit
as
a
cohesive
unit
and
stop
playing
the
blame
game
within
our
own
departments,
but
hold
them
responsible.
Okay,
instead
of
the
council
coming
up
with
all
the
budgetary
figures,
make
the
managers
brief
you
not
in
the
executive
session
brief
the
citizens
of
caribou
and
then,
if
leadership
changes
are
needed
great
make
that
adjustment,
but
we
can't
go.
C
We
can't
fight
a
war
with
the
reserves,
and
people
have
tried
that
for
many
years
you
might
save
some
money,
but
you'll
lose
some
lives
and
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that,
because
I
know
every
one
of
you
came
into
this
position
to
do
good
for
our
community
and
I
really
hate,
seeing
all
this
negative
stuff
floating
all
over
the
place
against
people.
I
have
no
doubt
that
in
your
heart
you
want
the
best
things
for
caribou.
Okay.
C
Let's
look
at
the
reasons
why,
before
we
start
pulling
triggers
on
budgets
and
all
these
other
things,
because
we
can't
blame
a
school
teacher
when
43
percent
of
our
budget
goes
to
the
school
department,
can
we
hey?
You
know
we
look
at
overtime,
we'll
ask
yourself
if
you
would
run
into
a
burning
building
for
$30,000?
Would
you
because
that's
what
we're
paying
our
fire
department
and
without
overtime,
they're
gonna
go
somewhere
else,
Hey.
C
A
Hearing
none
close
the
public
forum
portion
of
the
council
item
number
five
City
Council
minutes,
February
10th,
2020,
regular
council
meeting
chair
will
entertain
a
motion
so
moved
Sargent
moved
by
Dodger
seconded
by
Jody
to
move
to
accept
the
February
10th
2020
regular
minute
any
additions,
Corrections
or
subtractions
hearing
none.
All
those
in
favor
motion
carries
item
number
5b,
February,
29th,
regular
council
meeting
minutes.
Chair
will
entertain
a
motion
so
moved.
D
A
E
Mayor
and
councillors,
the
Housing
Board
is
made
up
of
individuals
from
the
community
and
includes
those
that
are
appointed
by
the
council.
It
also
is
made
up
of
citizens
and
even
tenants
that
utilize,
the
housing
program
within
the
community
and
it's
the
board
has
asked
that
one
of
the
members
be
removed
due
to
non
participation
and
non
attendance
in
meetings
and
that
this
individual,
that's
in
your
packet
tonight,
and
let
me
just
drop
down
to
that
real
quick
yeah,
be
appointed
in
their
stead.
E
A
Personally,
don't
yes,
I
am
on
that
committee.
I
attended
it
I
personally,
do
not
know
this
lady,
but
the
committee
members
who
are
familiar
ken
was
there
are
very
positive
and
upbeat
on
this
person's
appointment.
It's
how
do
I
say
this.
It's
one
of
the
better
success
stories
that
this
program
gives
people
the
opportunity
to
succeed,
and
this
is
one
of
the
better
success
stories.
So
it
was
with
a
unanimous
decision
that
this
little
lady
be
asked
to
join
the
committee.
A
A
Good
point:
item
6b
appointment
of
citizens
to
the
new
police
station
stakeholders
group-
okay:
this
is
one
of
these
deals
that
got
misinterpreted
on
here.
Every
Tuesday
I
sit
down
with
Dennis
and
we
go
over
the
agenda
generally.
He
tells
us
what
items
are
on
the
agenda.
I
very
I
have
never
to
mind.
All
has
taken
anything
off
every
once
in
a
while.
I
put
something
on
and
I
put
this
on,
because
I'm,
a
little
confused
and
and
I
wanted
to
just
back
up
for
just
a
second
on
this
particular
subject.
A
A
When
that
report
gets
done,
that
will
come
in
front
of
the
full
board,
yes
in
front
of
the
council.
Yes,
excuse
me
in
front
of
the
council,
during
a
council
meeting
to
go
over
what
the
report
says
right:
okay,
because
I
was
confused
because
I
saw
that
there
we
have
a
stakeholders
group,
that's
looking
at
this,
and
we
have
what
we
call
a
council
building
committee.
E
The
architect
is
preparing
things
and
we
have
the
stakeholder
group
and,
by
extension,
the
council
municipal
buildings
committee
is
associated
associated
with
that,
as
well.
Basically
working
with
the
architects
through
the
process
to
finalize
that
what
is
going
to
go
into
this
report-
and
it
comes
back
to
the
council.
A
And
I
and
I
apologize
for
the
ski
team
because
should
have
had
them
first,
but
I,
don't
know,
as
I
as
a
councillor
have
ever
had
an
opportunity
to
give
my
feelings
on
this
particular
subject
yet
and
I'm.
Neither
a
member
of
the
stakeholders
nor
a
member
of
the
building
committee-
and
there
are
other
councillors
that
might
have
opinions.
I
was
just
wondering
when
we
would
have
our
opportunity
to
give
our
opinions
on
this
subject.
E
Know
at
the
time
what
we're
dealing
with
tonight
and
I
know
the
intent
right
now
is
that
the
architects
were
finalizing
their
their
findings
on
a
couple
of
existing
buildings
in
town
cracks,
I
tell
building
the
VMS
building
in
cratis
city
hall
and
I
have
a
draft
of
that
report
that
came
across
my
desk
this
morning.
That
can
now
be
pushed
out.
It's
still
in
draft
form,
but
everybody
can
see
what
information
they've
been
able
to
find
so
far.
E
A
So
and
I
have
no
ender,
and
this
isn't
anything
against
the
stakeholder
group
or
the
council
building
committees
group.
It's
just
that
some
of
us
aren't
on
either
one
of
those
and
we
and
and
I
and
I'd
like
to
see
if
there's
some
input
that
we
would
be
allowed
to
to
pass
at
some
point
during
the
process.
That
was
a
confusion.
Kevin,
okay,
thanks.
D
A
A
D
March
5th
I
saw
an
email,
no
I'm,
sorry
March
3rd
I
saw
an
email
that
went
from
councilor
morale
to
the
city
manager
and
it
said
good
evening
Dennis,
please
add
Milo
haney
and
Freeman
Cody
to
the
committee
member
lists.
Thank
you,
I'm
going
what
committee
member
list,
what
committee
the
committee's
had
already
been
made
they'd
already
been
sanctioned
and
I
thought.
Is
this
the
building
committee?
That's
all
that
was
said
and
I
thought
well.
D
I
got
to
check
that
out
and
then
on
March
5th
I
saw
the
mayor's
notice
and
said
sorry
for
the
last-minute
item
agendas,
one
of
the
items
that
are
going
to
go
on
there's
an
appointment
of
two
caribou
citizens
to
the
building
committee
and
I'm
from
building
committee.
We
already
have
a
building
committee.
So
then
I
saw
another
email.
That
said,
a
stakeholders
group
for
the
new
police
station
met
on
Thursday
March
5th
to
discuss
information
provided
by
artifacts
architects
estate
hope.
D
Stakeholders
group
currently
consists
of
the
following:
it
was
councillor:
Morell
air,
core,
patrick
city
manager,
marker
chief
of
police,
mike
Gahagan,
sergeant,
mark
Gahagan,
the
chief
building
official
penny
thompson,
bruce
haggles,
Dean,
Milo
Haney
informant
Freeman
Cody
was
this:
was
this
group
even
publicized
when
we,
when
we
set
up
in
the
airport
advisory
board,
we
publicized
it?
We
took
applications
for
the
people
who
wanted
to
serve
on
that
board.
D
Where
did
this
come
from?
I
didn't
see
any
publication,
I'm
not
done
yet.
You
wait.
I
didn't
see
any
publications
about
this
I
didn't
see
any
application.
All
of
a
sudden.
We've
got
this
group
that
has
not
been
voted
on
by
the
council
yet,
but
has
already
met
added
some
members
to
it.
What
if
somebody
else
wants
to
serve
on
this
shouldn't
this
be
established?
D
This
right
here
looks
like
has
the
perception
of
backroom
politics
and
with
all
the
rhetoric,
that's
going
on
and
everything
that
you
see
on
Facebook
and
all
the
comments
that
are
made
in
town
in
the
negativity.
I
would
think
that
this
would
be
the
last
thing
that
should
happen
right
now
that
this
should
have
been
publicized
and
should
have
been
brought
forth
and
had
other
people
asked
if
they
could
be
on
that
and
taken
some
applications.
I,
don't
think
this
should
be
voted
on
tonight.
D
F
A
E
D
G
G
G
E
In
this
meeting
that
was
held,
this
was
a
meeting
of
the
council
municipal
building
committee
and
as
a
staff
member
for
that
I
invited
other
staff
members
who
have
an
interest
in
the
particular
subject
to
attend
and
Bruce
Hagel
Steen
was
involved
with
the
selection
of
the
architect
and
was
involved
with
that
whole
process,
and
so
he
was
there
in
my
lala
Haney
and
Freeman
Cody.
They
were
informed
that
there
was
going
to
be
a
meeting
of
the
Municipal
Building
Committee,
which
would
be
a
public
meeting.
They
attended
so
with
no
future.
G
E
E
D
G
A
We'll
just
put
this
in
the
category
of
confusion
and
I
have
no
idea
how
the
stakeholders
got
formed.
I
have
no
idea,
I
didn't
even
know.
This
meeting
was
taking
place
as
the
mayor
I
had
no
idea,
so
you
know
all's
I
can
do
was.
Can
we
just
back
up
and
start
over
again
and
when
the
report
comes
in
from
the
engine
from
the
architect
we'll
have
it
presented
to
the
full
council,
an
open
view
and
then
we'll
decide
what
what
committee
it
goes
under
and.
F
A
H
Good
evening
my
name
is
Jorge
Berlin
I'm,
the
assistant
Nordic
ski
coach.
At
the
caribou
high
school
this
year
we
had
an
exceptional
season
and
I
appreciate
the
council,
inviting
these
exceptional
young
men
and
women
here
tonight
to
be
recognized
for
their
accomplishment.
Both
the
girls
and
the
boys.
Nordic
teams
were
state
runners-up
at
in
Class
B.
H
Tonight
we
have
representing
on
the
girls
team
I
would
get
Wimmer
who
was
ninth
overall
in
the
competition
and
we
have
Emma
Hickson,
who
is
our
third
skirt
scorer
on
the
girls
team,
and
we
also
have
sage.
Dube
was
another
one
of
our
scores
on
the
girls
team.
The
girls
put
up
a
tough
fight
against
a
very
tough
Yarmouth
program,
but
they
excelled
all
all
season
and
in
fact,
in
the
county
they
were
undefeated
in
Nordic
skiing.
It's
made
up
of
two
formats.
H
They
don't
always
get
the
accolades
but
I'm
glad
that
they're
being
recognized
tonight
on
the
boys
side,
oh
I
forgot
to
mention,
wasn't
able
to
attend
tonight,
Kaylie
Bell,
who
was
a
freshman,
and
she
was
second
overall
in
the
state
in
Class
B
this
past
weekend.
She
competed
in
the
u
16,
which
is
they
used
to
call
it
Jay
Jay
twos,
which
is
kind
of
a
Junior
Olympic
event,
and
she
recommended
the
state
of
Maine
at
that
event
in
Vermont,
where
she
did
very
well.
H
It
was
four
events
over
three
days
for
a
total
of
fifteen
kilometers.
On
the
boys
side
we
have
Malachi.
Willie
was
second
overall
at
the
Class
B
state
championship.
We
have
George
Ferland,
who
was
third
overall
at
the
state
championship
and
also
competed
in
that
you
16,
representing
the
state
of
Maine
this
past
weekend,
Brady
Miller,
who
was
ninth
overall
at
the
state
championship,
and
this
week
goes
to
Eastern
High
School
championship
to
represent
the
state
of
Maine,
which
is
going
to
be
held
over
in
New
York.
H
We
also
have
Carter
Bollinger,
who
was
one
of
our
scores,
and
we
also
have
Jordan
duplicity
or
one
of
our
varsity
ski
members,
who
are
also
all
on
that
second-place
state
state,
second-place
team.
So
again,
thank
you
very
much
for
having
us
and
if
nothing
else,
my
being
held
up
a
little
bit,
they
learned
a
lot
about.
A
Sports
is
a
very
important
part
of
the
educational
system.
It's
a
great
Avenue
to
teach
hardwork,
sportsmanship
perseverance,
and
sometimes
you
don't
win
but
ya,
plug
along
in
your
work
and
it's
a
great
life
lesson
in
participating
in
sports.
Some
sports
get
great
recognition,
some
not
so
much,
but
it's
all
important.
It's
all
right
there
and
it
was
going
to
serve
you
all
very
well
in
the
future
when
you
get
to
be
a
graduate
from
college
and
do
all
that
stuff
and
you
get
out
in
the
world
there.
So
what
congratulations?
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
representing
carabao
and
the
way
that
you
do
not
only
do
make
your
parents
proud.
You
also
make
our
community
proud
and
we're
honored
to
thank
you
very
much
for
your
hard
work
and
the
way
that
you
represent
the
city
of
caribou
to
the
rest
of
the
state
of
Maine.
So
thank
you
very
much
where
this
is
farmer
marks
best
part.
We
get
to
have
a
picture
with
all
of
you.
So
would
you
mind
come
on
down
and
we'll
stand
behind?
You
come
on
guys.
F
F
A
A
E
G
E
Councilors,
you
may
recall:
we've
been
discussing
the
some
of
the
hurdles
that
we
were
trying
to
get
over
with
regards
to
putting
the
revenue
budget
together
and
of
those
primarily
being
the
ambulance
service
contracts
with
outside
communities
and
we're
starting
to
see
those
trickle.
In
this
morning,
I
received
hard
copy
of
the
limestone
EMS
contract
and
the
fire
Nima's
contract
for
woodland.
Those
are
the
two
largest
contracts
that
we
were
anticipating.
E
We
understand
from
many
of
the
other
outside
communities
that
they
are
also
going
to
be
signing
the
contracts,
though
we're
waiting
to
see
those
come
back
to
us,
and
so
with
those
with
the
the
two
major
contracts
being
brought
in
and
having
some
assurances
from
other
communities
that
they
will
be.
Also
signing
we've
been
able
to
finalize
the
revenue
budget
for
you
and
and.
B
E
That
with
you
tonight,
this
is
on
just
for
discussion
of
the
first
read
and
we're
hoping
that
we
can
bring
it
back
to
the
next
meeting
for
a
final
adoption
by
the
council.
So
we
can
get
it
into
our
our
system,
but
definitely,
if
there's,
if
there's
questions
that
you
have,
we
can
take
whatever
time
you'd
like
to
go
through
things,
the
we
have
within
each
department
a
revenue
lines.
General
government
is
the
largest
revenue
source
that
we
have,
and
that
is
primarily
coming
from
the
property
tax
and
let
me
close
somebody's
down.
E
Well,
you
do
have
a
report
from
the
county
that
there's
their
appropriation
is
going
to
be
4.7
percent
more
than
last
year,
we're
still
waiting
for
the
school
districts
numbers
right
now,
we've
assumed
a
three
percent
increase
from
the
school
district.
As
far
as
the
property
tax
and
the
middle
rate
is
concerned,
everything
else
is
generally
created
by
fees
that
the
council
has
established
or
that
the
state
is
established.
We
have
some
fees
that
that
come
in
due
to
delinquencies
in
the
taxes
or
anticipated.
E
Looking
at
the
trends
that
we
are
seeing
right
now
within
the
community,
the
as
we
go
down
through,
we
have
some
funds
that
we
anticipate
will
be
going
up
a
little
bit
and
and
others
that,
for
instance,
the
very
first
line
tax
lien
cost
collected.
We
we
see
that
one
probably
dropping
down
just
a
little
bit,
but
it's
just
because
of
the
trends
and
the
the
amount
of
taxes
that
are
being
paid
in
advance,
we're
not
seeing
quite
as
much
noise
the
tax
liens
and
we're
also
seeing
less
tax
lien
on
the
books.
E
We
had
that
a
fifty
eight
thousand
two
thousand
nineteen
we
received
about
three
thousand
more
in
2019
than
budgeted,
but
for
conservative
efforts.
We've
left
that
at
fifty
eight
thousand,
that's
about
where
our
trend
has
been
over
the
last
few
years:
city-owned
property.
This
is
the
sale
of
properties
of
the
city
owns,
and
so
in
2019
we
sold
forty
nine
thousand
dollars
worth
of
property.
We
budgeted
thirty
thousand.
There
are
a
couple
of
large
large,
but
there
are
a
couple
of
properties
of
the
city
owns
that
we
hope
to
sell
this
year.
E
They
could
come
in
significantly
more
than
thirty
thousand
dollars,
but
for
now
we've
left
that
at
$30,000
the
excise
tax
has
been
growing
steadily
over
the
last
few
years.
In
2019
we
budgeted
at
one
point
four:
seven
million.
We
received
one
point:
five,
four
million
and
based
on
the
trends,
we're
not
shooting
for
what
we
actually
received
in
2019,
but
we
do
have
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
increase
projected
for
to
2020
funds.
E
We
had
six
hundred
and
twenty
five
dollars
budget
of
2019
received
six
hundred
dollars
budgeting
six
hundred
dollars
because
the
trend
is
actually
slightly
down
over
the
past
few
years
for
some
mobile
registrations.
Atv
registrations
is
very
similar,
we're
not
seeing
as
many
local
registrations
and
so
we're
showing
a
slight
decrease
in
ATV
registrations.
E
Travel
reimbursements:
this
is,
as
a
staff
go
down
state
or
we
might
be
associated
with
Maine
Municipal
Association
committee,
and
we
go
down
state
to
attend
some
of
their
meetings.
They
will
reimburse
us
some
of
those
travel
expenses
for
mileage
or
over
a
nice
day.
If
they,
if
need
be,
we
don't
have
as
many
of
those
overnight
meetings
happening
or
being
necessary,
and
so
we
are
showing
a
slight
seventy
percent
decrease
in
travel,
reimbursement
funds.
E
State
revenue
sharing.
This
is
a
significant
increase
to
the
revenue
budget.
This
year,
going
from
what
was
budgeted
7:40
last
year,
we
received
782
and
we're
projecting
nine
hundred
twenty
five
thousand
in
2020.
The
projections
were
published
over
the
weekend
by
the
state.
It
may
be
even
more
than
nine
hundred
and
twenty-five
thousand
dollars,
but
it's
all
predicated
upon
the
sales
and.
F
E
F
I
We're
pretty
constant,
it
doesn't
like
me
over
here
with
the
feedback
I.
What
I
would
prefer
to
point
out
is
when
it
comes
to
snowmobile
boats,
motor
vehicle
and
ATVs
that
they
can
all
be
done
online.
So
it's
not
that
there
are
less
snowmobiles,
less
ATVs
in
town,
it's
just
less
of
people
coming
in
the
office
to
do
them.
They
have
to
do
new
ones,
but
often
people
will
do
the
renewals
online
the
same
with
hunting
and
fishing.
They
will
buy
online.
So
that's
where
we've
lost
it.
E
Jumping
down
to
the
cable
TV
franchise
fee,
you
see
you
budgeted
a
hundred
and
three
thousand
and
two
thousand
nineteen
we
received
over
a
hundred
and
seven
thousand
dollars.
The
decisions
that
have
been
handed
down
by
the
FCC
in
the
past
couple
of
years
are
indicating
that
the
cable
companies
may
be
able
to
deduct
from
the
franchise
fees
certain
costs
that
they
incur.
E
For
instance,
the
franchise
fee
that
we've
been
working
under
provides
that
they
would
give
City
Hall
the
fire
station,
the
rec
center
free
cable
service
and
those
types
of
services.
The
FCC
is
now
saying
that
the
cable
companies
can
deduct
those
costs
from
any
franchise
fees
that
we're
charging
we're
still
dealing
with
renegotiation
of
the
franchise
agreement
and
there's
all
sorts
of
national
legislation
that
is
being
proposed
right
now.
E
E
Miscellaneous
interest,
this
would
be
on
the
some
of
the
savings
accounts
that
we
have
and
we
print
budgeted.
Thirty
thousand
and
two
thousand
nineteen
received
forty
four
thousand
dollars
budgeting.
Forty
two
thousand
in
2020
again
conservative,
based
on
on
what's
happening
there,
the
property
taxes,
as
I
mentioned
we
right
now
are
showing
or
anticipating
that
the
city's
portion
of
the
mill
rate
will
stay
the
same
and
that
there
will
be
a
slight
increase
to
cover
the
county
in
the
school
district.
E
Right
now,
we're
showing
a
point:
six
percent
increase
to
the
property
tax
rate
based
on
what
we
believe
is
going
to
be
happening
with
the
school
district
in
the
county,
and
so
the
property
tax
revenues
would
go
from.
We
receiving
four
point:
zero
to
seven
last
year
million
last
year
to
four
point:
zero:
five
million
in
2020
the
property
tax
overlay.
E
This
is
a
portion
of
funds
that
the
city
collects
in
the
sense
to
cover
the
anticipation
or
the
possibility
of
additional
cost
that
were
not
anticipated
right
now
we
don't
have
an
overlay
in
the
formula
we
don't
set
the
overlay
until
the
mill
rate
is
established
by
the
council
in
June,
and
so
that
that
would
be
inserted
in
the
future.
When
the
when
the
eighth
council
sets
the
mill
rate,
the
housing
department,
as
they
look
at
their
budgets
and
they
do
an
annual
audit
on
average,
they
are
able
to
provide
the
city.
E
E
F
E
E
E
E
As
far
as
that,
CD
that
matures
this
year
in
in
August
the
Highlander
Museum
in
2019,
they
they
turned
over
to
the
city,
nine
hundred
and
eighteen
dollars
of
funds
that
they
had
collected.
They
were
handling
in
a
separate
account
and
they
turn
that
over
to
the
city.
So
no
confusion
as
to
the
use
of
that
money
and
his
money.
It
was
for
what
purposes
we
we
do
have
a.
E
E
F
E
E
Under
health
and
sanitation,
this
is
the
Tri
community
dividends.
We
don't
anticipate
any
dividends
coming
this
year
from
trike
or
Aroostook
waste
solutions.
What
was
previously
Tri
community
dividends,
and
so
we
have
a
zero,
therefore,
that
we
will
be
receiving
over
$300,000
this
year
in
merger
concessions
from
Presque
Isle,
but
those
funds
are
yet
to
be
determined
where
those
will
go.
We're
not
planning
to
use
those
this
year
and
so
we're
not
showing
them
here
in
the
revenue
line,
and
we
will
not
get
that
payment.
Actually
it'll
be
December
31st.
E
The
EOC
rentals-
this
is
the
the
rental
that
we
have
over
at
the
Lyons
building
and
that's
currently
we're
generating
four
thousand
dollars
a
year.
For
that
I
there's
been
a
question
that
was
posed
of
the.
What
is
the
contract
that
we
have
in
place
and
I
know
that
our
clerk
did
some
research
to
try
to
find
the
current
contract
it's
a
couple
years
old
and
we're
not
sure
how
we
got
to
the
four
thousand
level,
because
the
contract
is
less
than
that,
so
we're
still
digging
and
need
to
renew
that
contract
with
with
them.
E
Under
general
assistance,
the
we
provide
administrative
assistance
to
corner
for
their
general
assistance
and
they
pay
us
forty,
eight
hundred
dollars
a
year
to
administer
their
program.
The
state
reimburses
us
a
portion
of
the
funds
that
we
provide
under
general
assistance.
It's
roughly
sixty
percent
of
what
we
put
out.
They
reimburse
us
and
so
we're
showing
in
2019,
we
budgeted
twenty
thousand
dollars
a
little
over
twenty
thousand
dollars
of
expense
or
revenue
slightly
less,
as
anticipated
in
2020.
E
This
line
this
particular
line,
if
that
goes
up,
there's
a
corresponding
increase
in
expenses
on
the
expense
side,
and
so
we
are
anticipating
less
general
assistance
going
out,
so
we're
getting
less
reimbursement
coming
in
under
tax
assessing
our
tree
growth
reimbursement.
We
anticipate
that
would
be
the
same
as
last
year:
veterans
exemption
reimbursement.
The
state
has
been
looking
at
additional
tax
credits
or
exemptions
for
veterans,
and
so
we're
showing
a
slight
increase
in
the
veterans
exemption
reimbursement
from
the
state.
The
homestead
exemption
reimbursement
will
also
go
up.
E
E
So
you'll
see
that
there's
an
increase
from
631
thousand
dollars
in
2019
to
651
thousand
dollars
in
2020,
really
that
when
you
look
at
the
homestead
exemption
reimbursement,
we're
seeing
an
increase
here
in
in
theory,
you
would
see
a
slight
decrease
in
the
property
tax,
but
the
state's
making
sure
that
we're
whole.
So,
ultimately,
those
numbers
would
be
coming
out
close
to
the
same,
if
not
for
the
mill
rate
changes
that
we
would
be
seeing
many
reimbursement.
E
This
is
the
program
that
the
state
authorizes
businesses
to
declare
personal
property
and,
depending
on
when
it
was
purchased
and
the
value
of
that
property,
they
can
be
exempted
from
paying
personal
property
tax
on
that
the
state,
then,
if,
if
those,
if
businesses
declare
those
properties,
the
state
that
reimburses
the
city
in
a
sense
for
taxes
that
we're
not
collecting
we're,
not
charging
the
businesses
but
the
state's
still
going
to
provide
the
city
funds
as
if
those
business
had
paid
those
taxes
or
percent.
It's
not
a
hundred
percent.
It's
53
percent.
E
G
F
E
The
under
the
code
enforcement
department,
we
we
don't
charge
electrical
permits
anymore
and
so
you'll
see
those
lines
or
zeros
building
permits.
We
conservatively
have
that
at
$2,000,
which
is
the
same
as
what
we
had
last
year.
We
did
receive
3,300
dollars
in
revenue
last
year
from
building
permits
plumbing
permits.
We
received
sixty
seven
hundred
dollars
in
plumbing
permits.
That
was
primarily
the
plumbing
permit
that
was
paid
for
from
the
school
district
project,
and
so
not
anticipating
another
major
plumbing
permit.
E
We
had
six
hundred
dollars,
budgeted
in
2019,
slight
reduction
to
five
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
in,
and
twenty
twenty
and
really,
if
we
get
one
application
that
comes
in
you've,
almost
get
the
six
hundred
dollars
with
one
application
that
comes
in,
but
because
of
the
right
now
the
limited
development
that
we're
seeing.
We
only
have
about
five
hundred
fifty
dollars
in
there
the
demo
permit
fees.
E
E
In
a
sense,
it
became
a
penalty
fee
if
they
just
started
demolishing
something
and-
and
we
noticed
it-
syan
prometaphase
again-
a
slight
reduction
anticipated
from
that
and
right
now
we
don't
have
any
subdivision
miscellaneous
income
or
or
heating
permits
that
are
are
budgeted
in
the
in
the
revenues
for
the
library
department.
The
the
miscellaneous
income
is
really
donations
that
they
get
every
year,
and
so
in
2019
we
were
targeting
$4,600.
E
They
were
able
to
get
four
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
dollars
in
donations,
and
we've
set
the
same
bar
in
2020
and
forty
six
hundred
dollars
our
non-resident
fees.
We
budgeted
two
thousand
dollars
last
year
received
just
under
seventeen
hundred
dollars.
The
trend
is
that
that
is
going
down
overall,
and
so
we
have
a
fifteen
hundred
dollars
budgeted
in
twenty
twenty
passport
services
was
a
service
that
was
provided
prior
to
my
being
here.
The
I
think
it
was
to
librarians
ago
they
were
providing
passport
services
at
the
library
and
generating
some
revenue.
E
Under
the
fire
and
ambulance
department,
there
were
significant
changes
this
year,
legislatively
with
the
reimbursement
rates
and
also
with
the
outside
community
contracts
that
we
have
under
maine
care.
The
state
is
increased,
their
reimbursement
rate,
and
so
that's
what
makes
up
the
majority
of
the
increase
of
revenue
that's
proposed
for
there,
we've
anticipate
drawing
from
three
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars
of
state
reimbursement
to
four
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
of
state
reimbursement.
E
The
contractual
allowance
right
now,
we've
left
it
the
same
as
last
year.
Theoretically,
if
they're
reimbursing
us
more,
the
contractual
allowance
should
go
down
a
little
bit,
but
we're
also
picking
up
limestone,
which
means
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
few
more
runs,
which
means
we
may
incur
more
contractions
that
way.
So,
even
though
the
contraction
allowance
should
be
less
the
additional
runs,
they
put
us
back
to
where
we've
been
in
our
contraction
allowances.
So
that's
why
we
have
one
hundred
and
seventy
four
thousand
and
twenty
twenty
negative,
which.
F
E
Same
as
what
we
had
last
year
in
that
line
at
the
federal
level
we
budgeted
six
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars.
Last
year
we
received
seven
hundred
and
sixty
two
thousand
dollars.
The
additional
runs
that
we
anticipate
with
with
limestone
this
year.
You
see
the
budgeted
amount
going
to
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
above
the
seven
hundred
sixty
two,
but
the
contractual
allowance
is
staying,
a
slight
increase
over
actual
from
last
year.
Again,
it's
even
though
we're
doing
more
runs
the
contraction
allow
sustain
the
same
with
with
a
federal
rate,
private
insurance.
E
The
contractual
allowances
for
self
pay
and
the
VA
and
others
we've
held
those
very
similar
to
what
we
had
last
year.
The
biggest
changes
in
the
revenues
for
the
fire
and
EMS
department
are
the
fees
to
outside
communities
instead
of
the
$11.50
per
capita
fee
for
EMS
services.
The
outside
communities
are
aware
that
was,
would
we
need
$100
per
person,
and
so
the
revenue
lines
are
indicative
of
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
person.
Contract
amounts.
E
And
so,
as
I
reported
earlier,
we
received
the
woodland
contract
on
my
desk,
and
so
that
hundred
and
three
thousand
dollars
is
there.
In
the
budget
we've
heard
from
New
Sweden
West
Berlin
Stockholm
Connor
that
they
will
be
signing
the
contracts,
and
so
those
numbers
are
there,
we've
not
heard
from
param
what
their
anticipation
is.
E
I
know
that
they
have
reached
out
to
Presque
Isle
and
asking
for
them
to
give
them
a
quote
for
service
as
well
as
North
Lakes,
and
so
at
this
point
we're
just
waiting
to
hear
back
from
param
by
the
end
of
the
month
as
as
we've
given
them
till
March
31st
Madawaska
Lake.
The
indication
from
the
county
is
that
that
contract
will
be
signed
for
EMS
services.
Wade
will
not
be
renewing
their
contract
with
us,
and
so
we
have
a
zero
revenue
from
them
and
Washburn's
not
renewing
their
contract
with
us.
E
So
that's
a
zero
from
them.
Two
new
lines
for
revenue
this
year
or
the
Caswell
and
the
limestone
per
capita
fees
and
those
two
by
themselves
come
out
to
over
two
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollars.
Additional
revenue
went
to
the
department,
these
fees
that
I've
talked
about
so
far,
just
the
EMS
fees.
There
are
some
communities
that
have
the
fire
service
and
those
we'll
get
into
in
just
a
minute,
so
we
have
recovery
of
bad
debt.
Staying
the
same
as
last
year,
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
a
slight
increased
ambulance
insurance
reports.
E
F
E
Revenue
from
Holton
that
we
had
last
year,
just
anticipating,
we
still
will
get
some
revenue
from
them
Calais
and
a
slight
increase
in
revenue
for
their
services.
Island
Falls
right
now,
it's
a
very
minimal
amount
of
revenue
that
we
receive
from
them.
The
revenue
budget
right
now
anticipates
not
not
providing
them
service
going
forward,
but
their
their
call
volume.
As
we're
looking
about
and
I
know
that
the
council's
asked
for
an
ambulance
billing
service
work
session,
we
can
talk
about
that.
During
that
work
session.
E
We
feel
we
can
keep
Island
Falls
on
the
on
the
ambulance
billing
talking
for
the
minimal
amount
of
calls
that
they
make
they
bring
to
us,
but
it's
it's
very
minimal
amount.
Anyone's
billing
from
Pattin
would
continue
still
increasing,
of
almost
$1,000
from
their
service.
That's
just
based
on
the
trends
that
we're
seeing
coming
from
them.
E
As
far
as
the
fire
protection
goes,
we
have
Connor
new
sweden,
woodland
and
west
midland
who
are
indicating
that
they
were
like
fire
services.
Connor
is
a
contract
that
we've
had
through
the
county
and
they've
Sweden,
and
in
will
in
the
West
Midlands
they
previously
were
with
North
Lakes.
They
have
very
few
runs
and.
D
D
E
Was
their
$25
per
population
fee
for
that
the
final
codes
under
the
fire
and
EMS
department
insurance
reports?
Again
very
small
150
dollars
budgeted
last
year,
$125
budgeted
this
year,
fire
permit
fee
staying
the
same,
a
$5,000
and
anticipating
thousand
dollars
of
miscellaneous
to
come
the
police
department
with
their
revenues
this
year.
E
E
Because
if
they,
if
we
have
an
officer
that
leaves
goes
to
another
department,
then
that
other
department
reimburses
us
a
portion
of
the
training
cost
that
we
incurred
with
that
officer?
And
so,
if
it's
a,
if
it's
a
an
officer,
that's
barely
out
of
the
Academy
and
they
leave
us
to
go
somewhere
else.
E
We
want
to
be
able
to
funnel
these
funds
directly
across
rather
than
haven't
hit
the
operational
budgets.
So
that's
the
estimating
difference
in
the
police
budget.
This
year,
the
question
you
asked
earlier
councilor
Smith
about
the
RSU
officer,
that's
line
16
in
the
police
department
and
we
receive
$75,000
a
year
in
a
payment
from
the
school
to
offset
the
cost
with
the
school
resource
officer.
E
K
K
E
E
E
A
E
The
Public
Works
revenues
from
Public
Works
are
primarily
from
the
state
143
thousand
dollars
that
is
to
be
utilized
in
taking
care
of
rural
roads
and
deferring
some
of
the
cost
we
have
with
that,
and
then
we
have
our
corner
contract
for
helping
plow
their
roads
out
there,
and
so
those
two
are
showing
the
same.
As
last
year.
E
In
the
Recreation
Department
we
have
rental
incomes
at
the
Rec
Center.
We
have
program
fees,
the
special
event,
fees
and
those
we're
showing
a
slight
reduction
in
rental
income
at
the
Rec
Center,
but
overall
so
overall
from
last
year,
what
they
had
$24,000
we're
estimating
$22,000.
This
year
we
have
talked
about
implementing
a
small
increase
to
the
program
fees
to
to
help
offset
some
of
those
costs
under
the
parks
department.
E
We
again
have
rental
incomes
from
the
parks
and
we
don't
have
very
many
people
that
rent
those
parks
they're
obviously
open
to
anybody
that
wants
to
use
them,
and
the
use
is
not
such
that
people
have
to
reserve
them
to
try
to
beat
people
away.
We
anticipate
that
with
the
completion
of
the
Teague
Park
and
the
splash
pad
will
probably
see
additional
requests
for
the
renting
of
the
facilities,
and
so
there
is
a
slight
amount
of
rental
income
in
there
for
them.
E
At
the
airport,
the
two
main
sources
of
revenue
at
the
airport
are
hangar,
rentals
and
fuel
revenue.
The
sixteen
thousand
dollars
in
rental
revenue
is
these
are
based
on
current
contracts
that
we
have
in
place
for
the
year.
We
do
occasionally
see
rents
coming
in
for
the
main
hangar
for
short
term
rentals
and
those
are
cents
additional
gravy
revenue
for
the
airport
that
comes
in
you
see,
and
in
2019
we
estimated
$11,000
of
rent
and
brought
in
$28,000
of
rent
at
the
airport.
E
Some
of
that
was
from
the
short-term
rental
hangars,
but
also
we
found,
as
we
were,
completing
the
T
hangar
project.
We
were
any
rents
that
we
were
receiving
prior
to
closing
out
that
project
we
had
to
set
aside
and
reserve
for
giving
those
funds
back
to
the
FAA
through
the
club,
the
project
closeout
process.
E
Those
funds
were
incorporated
into
the
closeout
and
we
were
able
to
capture
all
the
funds
that
we
had
set
aside
to
send
to
them,
and
so
that's
one
reason
why
we
had
28,000
dollars
in
in
rental
revenue
was
essentially
being
able
to
capture
all
of
the
money
we
had
set
aside.
That
was
taken
out
through
a
different
process
fuel
revenues.
E
Last
year
we
did
not
budget
revenue
for
the
full
year,
and
so
we
only
budgeted
$8,000
of
fuel
revenue
and
in
2019,
but
managing
the
fuel
island
for
the
full
year
we
brought
in
$27,000
of
fuel
revenue.
We
anticipate
a
similar,
25
thousand
dollars
of
revenue
in
2020.
We
did
increase
our
fuel
prices
slightly
and
so
again,
that's
a
conservative
number
of
the
25,000.
We
anticipate
it
might.
F
E
D
E
E
D
D
E
With
the
closure
process,
we
we
can
give
them
12
months
to
get
themselves
in
their
trailers
off
the
property.
If
they
don't
move
their
trailers
off
the
property,
they
don't
become
ours
automatically.
We
have
to
go
through
another
process
through
the
state
to
take
ownership
of
those,
and
so
even
though
we
say
we
could
want
to
try
to
get
it
closed
in
12
months,
we
could
get
all
of
the
residents
out
within
a
12-month
period,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
able
to
clean
up
all
the
trailers,
probably
in
12.
J
J
A
D
F
G
F
G
E
E
E
That
they're
able
to
generate
and
so
really
for
the
sled
or
snowmobile
trails
fund
or
staying
very
close
to
what
we
had
budgeted
last
year
with
revenue
and
the
point
eight
percent
increase
the
FSS
revenues.
This
again
is
a
federal
grant
program
in
2019
they
budget
at
fifty
thousand
seven
hundred
and
eighty
seven
dollars,
because
that
was
the
grant
award.
E
We've
already
received
the
notice
of
award
for
2020,
and
it
is
a
13
percent
increase
at
fifty-seven
thousand
four
hundred
and
forty
six
dollars
so
overall
revenues,
the
budgeted
last
year
was
10.1
or
about
ten
point,
two
million
dollars
budgeted.
Last
year
we
were
able
to
generate
ten
point
three
million
last
year
and
this
year
it's
projected
to
be
generating
ten
point:
seven
million
in
revenue.
E
E
A
E
A
A
I'm
trying
to
tell
everyone
that
we're
not
cutting
these
budgets,
like
everyone
is
saying
we
are
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
say
and
that
the
additional
revenue
that's
coming
in
goes
toward
the
budgets
nobody's
cutting
anything
here.
The
only
thing
we've
tried
to
do
is
not
have
the
increase
be
so
large
in
expenses.
G
G
G
E
E
E
E
You've
got
only
a
difference
of
three
hundred
seventy-one
thousand,
but
when
you
look
at
the
total
cost
of
that
department
with
the
capital
included,
our
our
deficit
is
roughly
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
cost
that
need
to
be
covered
for
the
fire
and
ambulance
department
and
when
you
divide
that
out
amongst
the
citizens
of
caribou,
that
makes
us
so
that
our
citizens
are
paying
roughly
a
hundred
thousand
or
a
hundred
thousand
hundred
dollars
per
person.
The
same
as
what
we're
now
charging
the
other
communities
for
the
same
service.
So.
G
G
Yes,
because
that's
part
of
commenting
on
the
mayor's
comment
about
misinformation,
that
I
find
it
to
be
a
certain
group
of
noise
makers
that
won't
pay
attention
to
the
numbers
nobody's
trying
to
put
anybody
out
of
business,
we're
trying
to
run
it
like
a
business,
big
difference
and
there's
no
reason
that
it
can't
I
II
for
all
the
people
that
are
saying
against
it.
If
we
wouldn't
have
taken
a
good
look
at
that,
we'd
still
be
at
$11.50,
hemorrhaging
money
and
the
people
of
Kerbal
would
have
been
paying
it
with
no
knowledge
of
it.
G
So
those
that
say,
micromanage,
I,
guess,
have
never
been
in
business.
That's
part
of
the
job
and
part
of
that
job
is
what
we've
realized
as
a
council.
That
was
wrong.
There
should
have
been
identified
years
ago,
so
I
would
tell
the
people
that
that
are
negative.
So
all
the
rocks.
You
want
we're
big
boys
and
girls.
We
can
handle
it
I.
Do
your
homework,
get
your
numbers
straight.
Thank,
You,.
A
Waited
for
you
to
finish
no
I
want
to
because
I
the
fire
and
ambulance
issue.
It's
been
a
very
contentious
issue
and
what
you,
basically
the
the
majority
known.
It
was
a
unanimous
decision
that
the
goal
of
this
council
was
to
align
the
service
fees
that
our
fire
ambulance
service
gave
to
the
outside
communities.
We
wanted
to
align
those
fees
with
what
the
fire
named
balanced
apartment
was
costing
the
city
of
caribou.
Also
we
wanted
it.
Even
we
wanted
to
start
with
the
foundation
that
everybody
was
going
to
pay
the
same.
A
We
started
with
councillor
Hughes
presentation
on
November
18th
and
he
was
using
1918
2018.
Excuse
me
actual
audited
numbers
from
which
we
derived
this
number
of,
and
we
asked
you
to
do
the
best
job.
You
could
under
all
this
controversy,
because
there's
so
many
variables
that
even
take
place
within
one
year
in
this
department
due
to
state
laws,
state
reimbursements,
they
promise
your
stuff
and
you
never
know
you
get
it
until
you.
A
The
check
comes
in
what
towns
were
gonna
do
what
and
the
numbers
you
showed
me
that
we
were
like
ten
cents
off
and
I
think
it
was
a
hell
of
a
good
job
trying
to
navigate
what
can
only
be
described
as
a
very
confusing
situation
with
numbers.
You
almost
need
in
today's
world
to
have
a
financial
analysis,
specialist
work
with
these
payer
mixes
and
runs
and
stuff,
like
that,
it's
all
this
health
insurance
thing
is
developed
into
that
kind
of
a
system
and
you've
done
a
great
job.
A
A
Let's
grab
them
sometime
in
September
when
we
have
the
audited
numbers
and
let's
invite
those
people
in
and
let's
show
them
what
is
costing
us
all
to
have
this
department
for
the
citizens
of
caribou
and
the
services
to
the
surrounding
community,
and
then
maybe
we
can
give
them
an
extra
month
or
two
to
make
their
decision
on
what
they
want
to
do,
but
once
again
Dennis.
Thank
you
very
much.
Yes
appreciate
it.
A
A
E
So
this
is
a
draft
for
the
council
to
consider.
I
should
preface
this
discussion
with
under
the
city
charter.
One
of
my
responsibilities
is
to
be
the
purchasing
agent
for
the
city.
Basically,
as
a
council,
you
set
the
budget
and
it's
my
obligation
to
make
sure
that
things
are
purchased
appropriately
and
every
year
the
council
established
as
a
process
of
reviewing
the
warrants.
E
Basically,
we
gather
together
all
the
payments
that
all
the
cost
that
are
out
there
and
we
put
together
a
warrant
statement
of
these
are
all
the
checks
that
need
to
go
out
and
the
council,
the
first
of
the
year
authorized
me
to
be
the
signer
on
all
the
warrants,
regardless
of
the
cost.
That's
what
the
implication
is
when
the
council
made
that
motion
at
the
first
of
the
year.
E
E
F
G
E
E
F
E
E
And
I've
included
in
your
packet
a
matrix
that
outlines
the
the
state
code
provisions
when
you
would
have
to
have
a
Charter
Commission
or
not.
Basically,
if,
if
it's
going
to
be
a
major-
and
this
was
part
of
the
state
statute,
that
was
a
little
confusing-
they
use
four
different
terms
when
they
talk
about
charter
provisions.
They
talk
about
charter
adoption,
so
that
would
be
a
brand
new
one.
E
They
talk
about
a
charter
amendment
and
they
talk
about
a
modification
and
a
revision,
so
they
give
four
different
terms,
but
they
only
spell
out
the
processes
for
charter
adoption
and
charter
amendment,
and
the
indication
is
that,
if
you're
doing
a
revision,
you
treat
that
the
same
as
an
adoption.
There's
really
no
indication
if
you're
doing
a
modification.
E
What
what
it
means
to
do
a
modification
and
so
just
to
be
safe,
is
best
to
treat
that
as
if
you're
doing
a
revision,
which
is
the
same
as
an
adoption.
But
the
council
can
do
an
amendment
and
essentially
you
would
go
through
if
you
want
to
initiate
it.
You
outline
the
changes
that
you,
as
a
council
think
would
be
appropriate.
You'd
adopt
an
ordinance,
which
means
you
have
to
have
a
public
hearing
on
the
ordinance.
A
A
I
I
It
was
petitioned
to
make
it
zero
based
budgeting
and
that
went
to
the
attorney
and
the
attorney
said
that
that
changes,
the
Charter
so
much
that
it
would
need
to
have
a
Charter
Commission,
and
so
they
had
a
Charter
Commission,
which
they
looked
at
all
and
they
voted
on
the
members
and
they
looked
at
the
whole
Charter
and
then
it
was
adopted
up
or
down
since
we've
had
the
new
Charter.
We've
also
had
amendments
done.
They
were
I
believe
when
Blees
was
here.
I
We
did
some
tweaking
because
there
were
some
things
that
were
not
in
line.
You
know
when
the
one
of
them
I
believe
it
was
when
we
have
our
organizational
meeting
in
January.
There
was
a
confusion,
and
so
we
had
an
amendment.
We
had
a
few
of
these
little
tiny
amendments,
maybe
two
years
after
the
Charter
or
one
year
after
the
new
Charter
was
adopted,
and
we
voted
on
individually
in
a
November
election.
A
G
You
recall
I
seem
to
recall
that
being
part
of
that
petition
that
it
was
due
to
Charter,
Charter
Commission
was
formed
due
to
the
petition
and
what
we
were
asking.
It
wasn't
just
zero
based
budgeting.
It
was
then
having
the
people
vote
on
their
money
and
budget
that
took
power
away
from
the
council.
It.
I
May
have
been
that
to
be
on
so
Judy
and
Cora
was
the
clerk
when
that
petition
was
submitted,
but
I
remembered
the
legal
opinion
having
something
to
do
that.
It
was
changing.
It's
so
much
concerning
the
budgetary
part
of
it.
That's
why
it
needed
to
go
to
a
Charter
Commission.
It
was
seen
as
a
revision.
It
was
under
a
legal
opinion,
I
oversaw
the
election
of
the
charter
members
and
the
adoption
of
the
Charter,
but.
G
I
A
D
Because
we
set
in
the
in
the
audience
and
for
every
every
meeting
that
they
had
and
there
was
things
added
as
well-
there
was
the
public
input.
There
was
the
paying
your
taxes.
There
was
several
different
things
that
were
put
into
the
Charter
that
weren't
there
before.
Besides
the
zero
base,
budgeting
and
things
like
that
and
I,
remember
that
we
they
taught
the
Charter
Commission
talked
about.
D
Do
we
put
these
out
individually
or
do
we
have
the
charter
voted
on
as
a
whole
and
I
think
it
didn't
matter,
I
think
you
could
do
it
either
way
and
they
felt
that
it
was
better
to
do
it.
It
was
going
to
be
less
confusing
to
do
it
as
a
total
package,
yes
or
no
on
the
entire
new
charter,
rather
than
take
each
individual
one
end
and
vote
on
them.
A
I
guess
I
would
ask
for
legal
opinion.
Then
Dennis
I
would
like
to
know
if
we
as
a
what
it
would
be
for
the
council
to
go
back
to
the
way
we
used
to
go
through
the
and
that
was
look
at
the
expense
and
the
income
together
to
alleviate
the
confusion
that
I
think
we're
under
right
now
to
start
the
budget.
Currently
we
start
the
budget
process,
November
get
done
by
November
and
we
have
six
to
seven
weeks
to
decide
and
where
it
can't
even
look
at
the
revenue
budget.
A
F
A
And
could
we
ask
a
undetermined
and
if
there's
any
other
issues
that
the
council
would
like
to
have
on
it,
because
another
issue
would
be
once
the
budget
is
made,
the
expense
budget
made
the
sitting
Council
ought
to
have
the
ability
to
either
increase
it
or
decrease
it
as
they
see
fit
right
now.
It
says
we
can't
increase
it.
A
I
I,
don't
understand
that
if
we
want
to
increase
the
budget
line,
I,
don't
know
why
we
can
so
there's
two
separate
questions:
they're
two
separate
things
that
I'd
like
to
have
figured
out
revision
or
whatever
those
things
are,
and
if
any
of
the
other
counselors
have
anything
over
the
next
couple.
Council
meetings
bring
them
up
and
we'll
run
it
through.
The
everything
we're
gonna
do
here
is
going
to
require
an
attorney's
opinion.
Isn't
that
right
I
mean
if
I'm
understanding
what
we're
saying
ultimately.
E
A
A
E
E
E
F
A
A
J
Yes
and
I
just
want
to
point
out,
because
there
was
some
you
want
to
get
in
what
we're
talking
about
earlier.
But
the
purpose
of
this
meeting
would
be
an
open
meeting
and
it
would
be
recommend,
as
any
of
the
committee's
would
be
a
recommendation
to
come
to
the
council
for
final
decision
just
to
clarify
for
the
people
out
there
that
we're
not
gonna
make
a
decision
and
that
meeting.
That's.
E
J
A
E
A
A
A
G
Ahead,
Doug
I'm
just
wondering
mayor
if
we
could
have
something
attached
to
this,
that
would
also
have
going
in
a
business
friendly
direction.
What
else
are
we
going
to
do
joining
the
Chamber's
just
one,
little
tiny
part
I'd
like
to
see
some
commitments
from
the
council's.
What
are
we
gonna?
Do
we're
gonna?
Let
the
ship
stay
adrift.
The
way
it
is.
Are
we
gonna
tackle
it
and
and
do
something
to
enhance
the
business
climate?
It's
not
gonna
come
on
its
own.
We
all
know
that
that's
kind
of
what
I'm
thinking
if
something
could
be
attached.
G
E
G
I
agree,
but
I
also
for
one
I,
look
around
to
see
who's,
opening
up
a
business
and
I
appreciate
all
our
businesses
and
we
need
them.
We
need
to
grow
that
base
and,
as
the
gentleman
stood
here
and
chastised,
the
council
we've
been
doing
the
we'll
be
a
bedroom
community
philosophy
for
20
years
and
we've
failed
miserable.
We
need
some
business
base.
We
need
them,
folks
that
that,
hopefully
could
come
here
and
have
a
home
have
an
option
to
work
within
the
city.
A
A
F
A
E
A
J
E
E
We
did
have
an
inquiry
after
the
bid
closed
to
from
a
a
local
entity,
that's
interested
in
the
property.
We
told
them
well,
if
you're
interested
give
us
something
in
writing.
So
we
we
see
what
at
least
what
your
bid
would
be.
At
this
point,
we've
proposed
that
we
follow
our
typical
practice,
which
is
for
any
tax
acquired
property.
E
We
advertise
it
for
roughly
35%
of
the
assessed
value
in
this
case
with
lower
Linden
Street,
that's
ninety
five
thousand
dollars,
and
that
would
cover
the
city's
taxes
that
are
owed
plus
the
expenses
that
we've
had
in
the
property.
It
would
give
us
a
little
bit
more
that
would
go
into
that
City
property
revenue
line
that
we
talked
about,
but
also
any
obligations
that
are
with
si
UD.
We
can
use
those
additional
funds
to
help
offset
cause
of
the
si
UD.
E
As
that
also
related
to
this
property,
I've
received
an
email
over
the
weekend
councillor
to
Patrick,
for
it
to
me
three
businesses
that
are
not
local
there.
Some
of
them
were
not
I,
guess
two
of
the
three
were
not
even
in
the
state,
but
they
do
specialize
in
basically
selling
of
power
plants
and
large
manufacturing
businesses
that
are
I've
gone
under
they
they
can
come
in
and
they
look
at
what
is
the
potential
of
just
moving
the
whole
thing
to
another
place
or
looking
at
the
individual
components
and
selling
those
off
individually.
E
The
indication
that
I've
received
one
of
them
was
pretty
harsh,
and
that
is
that
this
equipment
in
the
steam
plant
particularly
was
put
in
the
1920s.
It's
museum
worthy
was
his
words
and,
and
really
this
is
probably
in
his
words
again.
This
is
probably
more
of
a
scrap
project
than
trying
to
surplus
any
of
these
specific
engines
or
generators,
and
a
second
company
I
spoke
with
again
the
same
thought.
What
they'd
be
willing
to
come
up
and
look
at
it,
but
it
could
be
just
simply
a
scrap
job
because
of
the
dated
the
equipment.
E
Essentially,
and
so
right
now,
I'm
waiting
to
hear
back
from
them
I
would
also
recommend
we
we
put
it
out
to
bid
and
see
if
anybody
else
is
willing
to
take
it
at
the
$95,000
and
then
maybe
they
can
work
with
these
other
companies,
or
maybe
they
have
the
means
to
liquidate
it
themselves.
And
then
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
staying
involved
with
this
property
any
longer
than
we
have
to.
A
J
A
E
A
The
ambulance
and
Fire
ambulance
department
has
many
components
to
it:
I'm
gonna
call
it
just
for
I,
don't
mean
to
be
harsh
or
anything,
but
it's
a
four
legged
stool,
the
fees
that
we
charge
for
our
service
to
surrounding
communities
and
department
costs
to
the
caribou
citizens.
That
was
one
of
the
legs.
A
A
A
If
you'll
excuse
me,
but
I
can't
figure
out
how
anybody
could
be
recruited
and
when
you're
sitting
there
saying
come
work
for
us
and
that
recruit
says
well,
what
are
you
paying
and
we
have
to
say
$12
an
hour.
I
mean
I'm
gonna
go
off
the
rails
here,
I'll
go
pick
strawberries
at
Dawn's,
Berry,
Farm,
so
I
don't
understand
the
base,
pay,
shutting
up
an
employee
of
the
city
put
in
a
4550
because
of
their
schedule
4550
hour
we
can
make
a
living
wage.
I
would
think.
A
Efficiency
will
come
with
numbers,
but
when
we
sit
down
in
November
or
early
September-
and
we
start
to
talk
to
our
surrounding
communities
that
we've
just
gone
through
all
this
with
and
we
start
telling
them
what
it's
costing
I
don't
know
how
I
can
tell
these
surrounding
communities
that
were
only
giving
them
12
bucks
an
hour.
No
wonder
they
got
to
work
overtime.
A
I
would
like
to
see
us
give
them
a
good
wage.
Give
him
the
proper
wage
for
45
to
50
hour
week.
I,
don't
know
how
we
got
all
these
years
and
this
kind
of
snuff
lands
on
the
desk
when
I'm
mayor
I,
don't
get
it.
It
should
have
been
dealt
with
years
ago,
but
it
is
what
it
is
I'm
at
a
poker
game
and
I'm
gonna
play
the
cards
that
were
dealt,
and
here
we
go
with
round
two.
Could
you
call
the
union
call
their
rep?
How
do
we
start
a
discussion
on
this
issue?
A
A
A
Mean
I,
don't
know,
look
I
just
got
into
myself
in
trouble
because
I
put
an
a
number
on
it,
but
it
ought
to
be
something
up.
There.
A
I
would
like
this
to
be
out
in
the
open,
because
we've
been
accused
of
going
into
executive
session
and
talking
about
stuff
like
this
we're
not
talking
about
any
one
person
we're
talking
about
our
general
contract
and
that's
good
for
the
public
to
hear
so.
No
that's
another
thing.
I've
learned
about
going
through
this
deal
here,
I
go
into
executive
session
because
that's
been
past
precedence
of
how
you
do
this
stuff.
A
For
25
years
we
went
into
executive
session
to
talk
about
these
stuff
and
all
of
a
sudden
this
year,
it's
wrong
or
no
last
year,
it's
wrong.
So
I
learned
my
lesson:
I'm
going
to
take
what
we've
done
in
the
past
and
forget
it
and
I
want
to
know
why
we're
at
12
bucks
an
hour
someone's
got
to
explain
that
to
me.
A
Thank
you.
Well,
I
did
compliment
you.
You
went
got
through
the
first
leg,
pretty
good
tonight,
I
didn't
say:
I
wasn't
gonna
drag
you
in
again.
You
know,
go
ahead.
G
So
in
my
world,
just
for
an
instance
and
I'm
not
suggesting
any
wage,
I'm,
just
gonna
give
you
a
roundabout
number
walk,
talk,
chew
gum,
read
a
tape,
measure,
good
learning,
16
and
change
up
through
25
to
30.
Now
I'm,
not
suggesting
I'm,
just
trying
to
give
you
something
in
the
council,
something
to
think
about
I'm,
just
a
little
tiny
in
the
snowbank
of
a
business.
But
that's
what
we
do
and
and
I
was
I
gotta
admit.
I
was
a
little
shocked
when
I,
when
I
heard
that
I
wouldn't
get
out
of
bed
for
that.
G
E
So,
just
briefly
and
I,
don't
have
all
those
numbers
and
historical
information
in
front
of
me,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
the
union
contract
is
set
up.
They
have
tiered
wages,
so
your
first
here
is
a
basic
EMT
with
a
firefighter
one
level.
That's
that
twelve
dollar
rate-
and
it
goes
up
from
there
to
a
full
paramedic
with
firefighter
two
and
and
so
on.
So
the
the
low
will
be
wrong.
E
G
Well,
when
I
give
that
scenario,
I
put
no
more
weight
on
that
paramedic
and
what
he
or
she
can
do,
then
I
do
my
top
guys
in
the
field
that
could
poison
millions
of
people.
If
they
don't
pay
attention
to
what
they're
doing
there
is
no
weight
difference
when
I
look
at
it,
I'm
not
trying
to
say
my
guys
are
heroes
and
I'm,
not
trying
to
say
that
the
fire
department
ambulance
is
here,
I'm,
just
making
the
statement
that
general
across
the
board,
both
jobs
in
my
eyes
are
equally,
you
know
what
I'm
saying
I.
A
View
it
from
if
we're
gonna
recruit
more
people,
so
we
can
get
a
take
on
some
more
communities.
I
mean
I'm
gonna,
be
on
it.
The
way
this
ambulance
thing
it
works
in
my
world,
there
ought
to
be
a
regional
ambulance.
Service
and
I
got
no
problems
with
curable
running
it,
but
that's
gonna
cost
recruits.
We
got
to
go,
find
people
that
are
willing
to
do
this
job
and.
A
D
That's
okay,
but
I've
said
in
a
lot
of
executive
sessions
where
we've
discussed
the
wages,
not
just
the
fire,
but
the
police
and
others.
Much
and
I've.
I've
looked
at
that
for
years
and
I
said
why.
Why
do
we
even
have
paramedics
that
are
willing
to
work
here?
They
have
to
work
50,
60
70
hours
a
week
to
make
maybe
upwards
of
75
thousand
dollars
a
year
and
they've
got
good
benefits
and
I've
had
people
the
some
of
the
employees
right
there
at
the
fire
station.
F
A
A
D
Not
doing
that
and
during
the
negotiations,
of
course,
we
didn't
negotiate
with
the
unions.
The
unions
negotiated
with
whomever
was
on
the
counsel
of
the
manager
at
the
time
or
whatever,
but
it
always
came
down
to
holding
the
budget,
especially
I've.
Always
thought
and
I
didn't
make
that
a
secret
Doug.
G
I
just
want
to
add
one
more
thing:
we
all
need
to
keep
in
mind.
We
chose
our
careers.
I
chose
to
be
a
welder
I,
can't
now
cry
and
think
that
I'm
worth
brain
surgery
salary,
if
that's
a
fact
that
I
should
have
went
to
school
to
be
a
brain
surgeon.
My
opinion
is
that
$12
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
trying
to
say
30
I,
just
think
that
that
is
out
of
line
and
for
me
to
further
that
in
further
discussions,
I
got
to
see
what
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
trade-off.
G
I,
don't
mind
pay
Matt's
gotta
make
Manor
woman's
got
to
make
a
living
I
understand
that.
But
we
also
got
to
see
how
that
affects
the
overtime
line.
That
was
the
first
thing.
I
picked
out
when
I
first
got
on
a
council
in
2006,
was
both
police
and
fire
overtime
lines
being
in
business
and
I
know
what
it
costs
to
work
overtime,
there's
a
fine
line
right.
G
F
A
A
A
E
E
The
the
police
department
typically
would
put
out
speed
trailers
in
the
summer
season
to
collect
data
and
get
a
better
idea
of
what
kind
of
speeds
are
happening
there,
but
because
of
the
snow
on
the
roads
they
didn't
do
that.
I
would
point
out
that
the
manual
on
uniform
traffic
control
devices
or
you
might
hear
the
acronym
mu
T
CD-
is
a
national
standard
put
out
by
the
feds.
F
A
D
A
K
B
K
B
K
K
K
A
B
A
B
A
B
A
Just
really
isn't
we're
not
designed
that
way.
We
you
do
it
in
incremental
steps,
I
mean
and
you've
you've
seen
what
you've
witnessed
other
issues
that
everybody
wishes.
They
could
get
solved
right
off
the
bat
and
it's
just
not
the
way
the
system
is
designed.
We're
gonna,
try
the
signs
and
we're
gonna,
try
the
presence
and
we're
going
to
just
see
how
that
goes.
But
please,
but
please
keep
us
informed.
Yeah
I
just
know
we're
not
saying
don't
come
back
and
give
us
it
give
it
give
us
give
us
the
report.
Okay,.
G
G
Just
want
to
know
if
the
team
could
give
us
an
idea,
look
tonight
a
little
plan
for
how
we
can
address
that
to
ease
the
concern.
I
know
he's
only
one,
but
he's
still
a
citizen,
and
he
has
rights
and
I.
Don't
blame
him.
I
know
what
he's
saying
about
the
kids
I
agree
with
mayor,
but
I
just
like
to
have
a
little.
K
E
What
you
actually
find
is
the
with
your
intersections
that
there's
an
obstruction.
It
actually
creates
more
concern
and
more
uneasiness
approaching
the
intersection,
so
people
slow
down
when
they
can't
see
around
the
corners.
If
you
open
it
up
and
people
can
see
everything,
that's
coming,
they're
less
likely
to
be
cautious
heading
into
the
intersection.
K
F
K
A
E
Coming
back
to
the
front
of
the
report
just
again,
while
I'm
not
going
to
go
through,
all
of
these
just
want
to
highlight
a
couple
of
them.
The
events
and
a
marketing
under
economic
development
Christina
has
been
working
on
some
videos
where
she's
going
out
and
interviewed
several
business
owners,
I
think
she's,
trying
to
put
together
seven
videos
and
in
the
weekly
good
to
know
she
sent
out
two
links
to
those.
So
you
could
review
those
very
professionally
done.
F
E
Bolster
that
look,
this
is
a
great
environment
for
entrepreneurs.
People
want
to
start
up
their
businesses,
and
these
are
people
that
are
doing
it
and
they're
being
successful
here
in
Caribou,
and
so
it's
a
great
marketing
plug
that
she's
working
on
for
us,
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
go
out
and
look
at
those
videos.
E
Also.
We
started
the
community
photo
contest
where,
through
Facebook,
people
are
submitting
their
photos.
It's
so
far
been
very
popular
and
another
great
way
to
drive
traffic
to
the
Facebook
page
and
we're
getting
a
lot
of
traffic
from
out
of
the
state,
even
people
that
have
lived
here
or
toured
here
that
they
love
seeing
the
photography
that
people
are
providing.
A
E
Already
talked
about
the
fire
and
EMS
contracts
tonight,
light
Commission
is
continuing
to
meet
and
we're
getting
ready
to
start
putting
together
a
draft
on
the
report
for
the
council
we're
still
waiting
for
some
of
the
snow
to
melt
off
before
we
finish
the
blight
survey,
that
was
started,
the
union
negotiations
and
we
have
a
mediation
meeting
set
with
the
Public
Works
Union
for
the
middle
of
April.
We'll
keep
you
informed
on
any
details
that
come
up
with
that.
E
E
Another
big
project
we've
been
watching
is
the
structural
study
of
the
ironing.
This
building
received
an
email
from
Sewell
that
they've
finished
their
preliminary
designs.
They're
just
getting
those
drafted
up
now
and
indications
are
that
they're
not
going
to
have
to
use
any
beans
or
columns
they'll
just
be
able
to
do
the
reinforcing
of
the
existing
structure.
That's
there
and
their
estimates
are
coming
in
fairly
close
with
what
they
had
done.
E
G
E
E
Some
of
more
most
of
these
are
just
slowly
as
you're
saying
they're
working
slowly.
Trying
to
accomplish
some
of
these
I'll
be
focusing
a
little
bit
more
on
the
title.
13
work
now
that
we're
getting
some
of
the
angle
and
stuff
out
of
the
way
and
the
Planning
Board
is
going
to
be
looking
at
that
this
Thursday
night.
So
well,
we'll
start
diving
into
that
more
and,
as
you
read
through
the
rest
of
those,
if
there's
anything,
you
have
questions
so
feel
free
to
approach
me
offline,
we'll
publish
that
out
for
people
to
see.
J
E
But
previously
we
can't
go
more
than
a
three-year
contract
by
state
law
and
historically,
we've
had
three-year
contracts,
but
last
year
the
the
unions
and
the
council
agreed
to
just
one-year
contracts.
We
were
trying
to
still
figure
out
some
of
the
budget
issues
and
when
your
contract
is
what
we
have
this.
G
A
G
A
J
J
E
A
A
Okay
report
number
eleven
reports
by
staff
and
appointed
officials
staff
and
appointed
officials
hearing
none
chair
will
entertain
a
motion.
Item
number
twelve
chair
will
entertain
a
motion
to
go
into
executive
session
dealing
with
a
real
estate
and
economic
development.
405
point
six
point:
C
sold
moved
by
you
seconded
by
Doug
any
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
motion
carries.
Thank
you
very
much
everyone
and
have
a
great
evening.