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B
Thank
you
for
hearing
this
public
input
I.
We
thought
this
was
a
meeting
that
we
were
going
to
had
to
come
to
to
just
kind
of
go
over
that
changes
that
have
happened.
We
were
shown
that
or
made
to
think
that
you've
wanted
to
hear
about
the
new
school
and
the
changes
that
we
had
so
I
can
make
it
a
short
version,
as
best
I
can
in
the
process
the
state
Awards
bidders
on
a
competitive
basis,
and
that
means
more
than
one
bitter
normally
for
a
competitive
base.
We
didn't
receive
that
in
this
school
bid.
B
We
only
received
one
bidder,
of
course,
if
you've
been
following
along
on
the
news
and
newspaper,
and
it
was
a
slightly
over
12
million
dollars
on
the
bid.
So
what
we
had
to
go
into
was
called
value
engineering.
We
kind
of
worked
with
the
architect,
pvt
and
Linden's
here
tonight,
the
state
of
Maine
and
the
contractor
Bowman
constructors,
and
we
worked
together
to
try
to
get
that
number
down
as
best
we
can.
B
What
we
had
to
do
as
a
school
is
we
had
to
take
some
of
our
furnishings
student
classroom,
furniture,
kitchen
appliances,
the
teak
Park
School,
Bateman
and
demolition
and
the
biomass
boiler,
and
also
having
keeping
teak
Park
up
for
a
short
time.
We
would
have
no
playing
field,
so
we
had
to
put
those
in
the
construction
budget
from
our
administrative
budget
just
to
get
that
number
close.
And
then
we
went
back
to
the
State
Department
I
met
with
the
Commissioner
a
couple
of
times.
B
I
met
with
a
State
Board
twice
to
get
approval
for
them
to
fund
this.
For
an
additional
for
this
project.
They
have
come
out
and
said:
they'd
fund
his
four
point:
eight
million
additional
dollars
that
was
voted
on
now
we
had
to
have
a
public
hearing
referendum,
which
will
be
this
Thursday
in
the
16th
and
a
vote
which
I
sees
on
your
agenda
on
September
6
for
RSU
community.
So
you're
basically
have
two
school
projects.
Now,
not
one.
B
You
have
what's
called
the
shell
project,
which
is
what
we've
gone
ahead
and
done
we're
going
to
be
putting
in
the
foundation
and
then
kind
of
stopping
for
the
winner
will
be
no
construction
over
the
winter
to
save
cost.
That
kind
of
helped
us
pare
that
money
down
the
12
million
that
we
had
to
come
down
to
then
you'll
see
we'll
get
back
going
in
the
spring.
The
4.8
million
is
the
second
phase
of
this,
so
it's
almost
like
a
second
project
to
get
that
money
back.
That
means
we
get
back
our
biomass
boiler.
B
It
means
we
get
back
our
classroom,
furniture.
It
means
we
get
back
our
kitchen
appliances,
it
gets
back
the
abatement
and
demolition
of
Teague
Park
and,
of
course,
the
playing
fields
for
kids
and
there's
a
list
of
few
other
things
that
we
get
back.
But
those
are
the
majority
bigger
items
that
we'll
get
back
over
that
four
point:
eight
million,
so
the
state
has
authorized
us
to
have
that
four
point:
eight
million.
B
A
B
Now,
there's
no
additional
cost
of
the
taxpayers.
The
only
local
additional
cost
that
could
have
been
to
the
taxpayers
was
for
$25,000.
We
were
able
to
get
two
wood
courts
for
our
two
gyms
at
a
price
of
50,000
for
both
courts.
When
we
paired
the
project
down
to
try
to
meet
the
cost,
we
did
took
out
one
of
the
wood
floors
or
the
second
gym,
which
was
the
local
gym.
We
would
end
up
with
just
a
towel
floor,
most
schools
that
I've
either
worked
with
or
heard
from
they
don't
like
the
tile
floor.
B
They
end
up
putting
wood
anyway,
we
did
have
a
private
donor,
come
forward
and
hopefully
for
that
$25,000.
So
there
will
be
no
additional
local
costs
of
that
25,
but
the
local
still
have
to
voted
in
the
25
for
us
to
have
the
authority
to
spend
it,
even
if
it's
a
donated
money
for
that.
So
let's
click
but
questions
would
be
great.
B
Well,
mark
marks
here
and
he's
the
God
that
kind
of
oversees
the
bond
were
in
the
second
bond
already
working
through
that
with
the
State
Department
were
always
with
them.
On
that
whole
bond
piece,
we
tried
it
before
the
first
bonus
is
paid
off.
We
try
to
make
sure
there's
a
second
bond
in
place
to
help
pay,
so
is
always
revolving
forward
with
the
payment
of
that
of
those
bonds.
B
C
B
B
D
E
Sure
my
name
is
Linda
and
kakum
senior
principal
with
PDT
architects.
This
project
is
similar
to
all
the
other
state
funded
school
projects.
A
contractor
presents
a
requisition
to
us
one
week
before
the
pay
requisition
meeting
our
firm
reviews
it
a
copy
has
given
to
the
state
of
Maine.
They
have
architects
that
come
up
and
look
at
the
work
and
they
review
it
and
we
have
a
clerk.
An
excellent
clerk
of
the
works.
He's
asked
to
review
the
pay
requisition
as
well.
So
we
mark
up
the
pay
requisition.
E
There
are
certain
rules
that
the
state
of
Maine
has
in
terms
of
what
the
contractors
allowed
to
pay
for
and
what
he's
not
allowed
to
pay
for.
Essentially
the
we
pay
for
work,
that's
been
put
in
place
or
work
or
materials
that
are
stored
on
the
jobsite.
If
the
contractor
requisitions
for
materials
stored
off-site
we're
allowed
to
do
that,
but
we
would
ensure
we
would
demand
insurance
and
the
right
to
go
and
view
the
materials
that
are
stored
off-site
so
there's
a
whole
series
of
checks
and
balances.
E
At
least
three
different
organizations
review
the
pay
requisition,
we
generally
mark
it
up
and
say
what
we
will
not
be
willing
to
pay
for,
and
then
we
send
it
back
to
the
contractor
and
he
sends
us
a
revision.
So
on
pay
requisition
day,
it's
really
pro
forma,
because
the
state's
reviewed
it,
the
architects
reviewed
it
and
the
clerk
has
reviewed
it.
E
So
change
order
yep
so
that
there's
a
the
contractors
using
a
piece
of
software
that
notifies
us
immediately
if
they
have
a
question
or
if
they
think
they
have
a
potential
change
order.
If
they
discover
unsuitable
soils
on
the
site,
they
would
notify
us.
The
clerk
of
the
works
looks
at
the
condition
we
look
at
the
condition
on
the
drawings
and
specifications.
E
The
state
also
comes
up
and
looks
as
well,
so
changers
are
treated
the
same
way
where
the
state's
architects,
the
our
firm,
as
well
as
the
clerk
of
the
works,
all
have
to
review
the
request
for
the
change
order,
and
then
we
make
a
determination.
It's
our
responsibility
to
the
school
district,
to
tell
them
whether
or
not
we
think
it's
a
legitimate
change
order,
and
whether
or
not
it's
a
fair
price.
If
the
state
agrees
with
us,
then
that
becomes
a
legitimate
change
order
and
gets
paid
in
terms
of
the
bonding
I
heard.
C
E
E
Yeah
so
I'm
gonna,
let
mark
answer
that,
but
the
I'll
just
do
a
little
upfront.
I
think
right
now,
you're
using
bond
anticipation,
notes
and
marking
and
explain
how
that
works
and
your
bonds
will
actually
be
sold.
I
think
through
the
state
of
Maine
bond
bank
and
that'll,
be
next
November
of
2019
2018
in
November
of
2018
that'll
be
the
permanent
bonds
but
marks
the
guy
that
money
flows
through.
But
he
can
explain
your
bond
anticipation,
notes
and
where
that
money
comes
from.
C
E
So
there's
a
pay.
There
is
a
web
page.
If
you
go
to
the
RSU
web
page,
there's
a
link
for
the
construction,
there's
also
building
committee
meetings
that
are
held
once
a
month
and
the
public
is
always
invited
to
come
to
the
building
committee
meetings
and
there's
always
an
item
on
the
agenda.
Where
the
public's
allowed
to
speak
and
ask
questions.
D
We
had
to
procure
what
we
call
bands
bond,
anticipation,
notes
and
that's
so
we
could
have
some
operating
money
to
get
started
on
the
project
like
we
are
now
before
we
actually
bond,
which
again
would
be
November
of
twenty
of
this
year
2018.
So
if
we
go
out
to
bid
and
the
first
band
that
we
went
out,
we
we
borrowed
4.2
million
dollars
and
it
was
Katahdin
trust
that
that
one
won
the
bid
gave
us
the
lowest
interest
rate
and
then
that
band
expired.
D
So
we
we
had
to
use
bond
being
number
two
which
again
we
went
out
to
bid,
and
this
time
it
was
Key
Bank
that
won
the
bid
and
we
borrowed
16.1
million
dollars
and
we
use
the
proceeds
to
pay
off
band
number
one
and
then
again
were
operating.
You
know
keeping
the
project
going.
Is
it
an
ongoing
when
we,
when
we
get
the
bond
in
November?
D
That
will
be
the
entire?
That
will
be
the
entire
amount
for
the
rest
of
the
project
and
then
we'll
use
proceeds
from
that
to
pay
off
pay
Key
Bank
off
for
band.
We
call
band
number
2,
plus
interest
and
then
we'll
you
know
in
our
account,
which
we
currently
we
bank
with
Katahdin
trust.
They
would
hold
those
funds
and
we
would
pay
the
you
know
the
contractor
accordingly
contractor
and
our
architects
attorneys
that
sort
of
thing
accordingly.
D
D
No
I
say
awesome
boy,
yeah.
Fifty
three
million.
B
When
we
had
the
one
bid
and
we
were
way
over
it
really,
we
had
to
really
dig
deep
and
to
find
out
where
what
we
want
to
do
and
how
we
wanted
to
proceed.
I
didn't
feel
was
very
smart
for
us
to
wait
another
year
to
go
through
this,
because
I
don't
think
we
would
have
had
any
bidders
at
that
point
in
time.
We
stayed
with
it,
and
I
got
to
give
credit
to
Bowman
too.
They
stayed
with
us
and
they're
the
only
bidders
they
built
the
Ashland
school
they're
very
retro.
B
We
have
great
subs
on
this
project.
Local
subs
have
a
lot
of
local
subs
are
on
this
project,
so
I'm
glad
we
stayed
with
it
and
didn't
kind
of
give
up
and
think
another
year
would
be
better
for
us
because
it
would
have
been
better
for
us.
We'd
have
been
in
the
same
situation.
We
are
now
going
back
and
asking
for
additional
money
to
the
Camden
project
came
in
over
30%,
more
also,
which
is
about
the
same
ballpark
as
ours.
B
There's
eight
schools
being
bid
this
being
built
this
year
and
they've
gone
through
bits
for
four
or
five
of
them
and
I'm
think
at
some
point
the
remaining
schools
may
not
have
contractors
to
build
their
schools.
We
have
a
booming
construction
business
in
southern
Maine
right
now
and
we
are
isolated
up
here
in
Aroostook
County
and
nobody
really
wants
to
come
up
here
to
build
if
they
don't
have
to
especially
large
projects
like
this
we'd
like
to
have
contractors
in
the
county
to
be
able
to
do
this,
but
we
just
don't
have
any.
B
There
were
sections
of
the
of
the
whole
project
that
were
overpriced
way,
overpriced
of
really
we
couldn't
control,
but
the
markets
but
controlled
it
for
us.
So
unfortunately,
there
was
a
tough
time
to
get
through
this,
but
I
think
we're
gonna.
Have
it's
not
a
Taj
Mahal
from
what
you've
read
on
Facebook?
That
has
nothing
to
do
with
that.
It's
a
fairly
basic
school
that
state
put
together
and
they
really
really
want
cable
to
have
a
new
school
department
of
that.
B
B
This
Thursday,
the
16th
we
have
to
have
the
vote
on
the
6:00.
The
bid
and
prices
were
good
until
the
end
of
September.
That's
why
we
had
to
hurry
this
up
a
little
bit
and
mark
traced
a
good
point,
because
this
C
really
isn't
a
local
project.
It's
a
state
project.
They
run
the
purse
strings,
they
kind
of
dictate
everything
like
Lyndon
said
by
the
time
it
gets
to
me
and
mark
the
works
already
been
done,
we're
just
signing
off
on
things,
but
you
know
we
still
go
through
it.
B
We
have
the
recs
meeting
that
we
sit
down
and
we
sign
off
and
just
like
all
our
other
school
projects,
but
there's
really
not
a
lot
that
we
can.
You
know
we
change
orders.
We
try
to
limit
those,
that's
where
the
money
comes
out
so,
but
we
also
have
a
contingency
in
there
if
they
don't
finish
it
on
time.
There's
there's
there's
penalties
for
that
too.
So,
but
that
kind
of
goes
back
most
of
that
to
the
states.
So
it's
not
just
the
Irish,
it
was
so.
G
H
H
The
aristocracy,
logical
Society
has
a
relationship
with
the
public
library
during
day
and
rewboss
tenure
at
the
library
where
they
would
have
meetings
there
and
then
have
meetings
other
places
and
as
their
organization
grew,
this
is
in
2003
they
had
collections,
each
member
would
have
books
or
papers,
and
things
of
this
nature
and
Dan
Dubois
gave
them
a
filing
cabinet
and
the
collections
grew
and
when
Lisa
Shaw
came
and
think
in
2013
and
14,
she
loved
what
the
ACS
was
doing
in
the
archives.
They
were
helping
our
patrons.
H
They
had
people
coming
all
the
time
doing
research,
and
so
she
provided
them
a
space
to
house
their
collections,
not
the
rented
space,
just
the
house
of
books
and
items.
These
are
all
materials
that
belong
to
different
members
and
now
that
they've
been
with
us
since
I've
been
here,
they
actually
work
in
the
archives
with
us,
and
so
everything
we
do
with
a
CGS
and
the
archives
is
a
collaboratory
thing.
So
programs
open
house.
H
If
we
do
grants
or
look
at
grants,
we
try
to
do
a
collaboratively,
could
have
a
better
chance
of
getting
grant
money.
So
we
say
we're
repository
for
a
CGS,
but
it
isn't
official.
So
this
is
a
chance
to
ask
the
council
if
they
would
be
willing
to
allow
a
CGS
to
the
library
house
of
materials
in
the
archives,
and
so
we
can
become
a
repository
for
them,
and
that
is
what
this
is
about.
A
H
F
Mayor
and
council,
it's
your
direction:
I've
met
with
the
property,
art,
153
and
163
River
Road,
and
we
we
met,
we
discussed
on
their
property.
Of
course,
these
are
properties
that
are
affected
by
the
the
road
failure.
That's
been
occurring
out
there,
we've
we've
come
to
terms,
and
that
needs
to
be
brought
back
to
you
as
a
council
for
final
approval.
If
the
council
approves
the
purchase
agreements
tonight,
then
we'll
move
forward
with
getting
closing
documents
and
due
diligence
taken
care
of.
F
I
F
It
was
$1,000
or
$2,000.
That's
a
much
higher
percentage
relative
to
their
assessed
value
than
the
other
properties
that
are
at
sixty
thousand
or
something
more.
We
looked
at
their
willingness
to
to
accept
asset
value
rather
than
go
through
an
appraisal
process.
The
appraisal
process
would
have
cost
us
additional
thousand
dollars,
or
so
so
we
said
what
we
could
probably
roll
that
into
this
offer
as
well.
They
they're
looking
at
the
time
requirements
and
also
having
to
continue
to
pay
for
their.
F
C
F
A
G
D
A
D
J
F
F
I
J
F
F
A
A
A
F
The
request
has
already
been
to
the
board
of
Assessors
for
a
partial
abatement
and
the
the
applicant
is
requesting
that
the
council
provide
additional
abatement
to
the
trailer
park,
basically
they're,
looking
at
all
past
due
taxes
on
the
derelict
trailers,
so
it's
basically
a
personal
property
tax
abatement
and
the
cost
right
now
to
the
city.
If
you
look
at
the
2017
16
taxes
and
what
remains
of
the
the
18,
it
would
be
a
total
of
three
thousand
three
hundred
and
fifteen
dollars.
F
The
applicant
is
proposing
that
she'll
basically
scrape
these
old
trailers
off
of
her
Park
and
dispose
of
them
at
her
cost.
The
issue
from
the
city
side
is:
if,
if
he's
don't
get
abated,
then
they
become
the
city's
problem
and
then
we
have
to
go
in
and
scrape
these
each
at
the
cost
of
five
hundred
to
a
$1,500
apiece,
which
is
going
to
be
more
than
the
cost
of
the
actual
abatement.
G
G
F
G
J
Right,
the
taxes
were
sixty
seven
thousand
two
hundred
that
were
all
right
and
they
abated
all
about
three
thousand,
which
includes
administration
costs
and
things
like
that.
So
they
have
made
it
all,
but
thirty,
three
hundred
and
fifteen
dollars.
We
don't
have
to
take
those
those
trailers
down
there
and
I'm
still
asking
and
I
have
for
years.
J
J
Here
tonight:
okay,
all
right
as
far
as
I
know
from
what
I've
read
they
bought
these
voluntarily.
They
took
these
mobile
homes
either
for
a
nominal
fee
or
for
the
back
rent
that
the
people
owed
and
they
walked
away
from
them,
so
they
volunteer
mobile
homes
and
they
owned
them.
So
I
feel
that
that
the
parts
responsibility
and
for
the
amount
that
they've
had
abated
already
I
think
I.
J
Don't
think
that
we
should
have
eight,
the
thirty
three
hundred
and
fifteen
dollars
on
this
I
drove
down
there
yesterday
and
most
of
them
I
think
there's
only
two
occupy
that
I
could
see.
I
think
the
rest
of
them
are
boarded
up
and
things
like
that,
but
they
did
I
feel
that
they
took
them
willingly.
J
I,
don't
know
how,
unless
they
took
these
after
the
property
was
purchased
in
2014,
but
I,
don't
know
how
they
even
were
able
to
do
the
real
estate
deal
without
the
taxes
being
paid,
but
maybe
they
were
no.
There
may
be
because
they
are
personal
property,
but
I
I.
Don't
think
that
we
should
be
a
baby
at
a
moment.
F
So
the
concern
like
as
I
understand
it
from
our
building
official,
the
Assessor
or
penny
Thompson,
is
that
they
can't
get
a
demolition
permit
or
the
trailers
unless
the
liens
are
off
of
the
trailers.
So
maybe
that
speaks
to
councilor
donis
point
was:
do
we
release
the
liens
and
that
they
continue
to
be
there,
but
we
still
hold
the.
I
F
J
A
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
The
expenses
are
presented
first
by
Department,
we
have
total
departmental
expenses
of
fifteen
point:
five
million
with
program
revenues,
a
4.3
million,
resulting
in
a
net
cost
of
eleven
point.
Three
million
those
net
costs
were
supported
by
general
revenues
of
eleven
and
a
half
million,
resulting
in
an
increase
of
the
net
position
of
just
under
two
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
remaining
fairly
stable,
exhibit
C
is
another
balance
sheet.
This
is
presented
on
another
basis
of
accounting.
M
This
is
what
we
call
fund
accounting,
it's
breaking
up
the
funds
of
the
city
between
the
different
purposes,
there's
the
general
fund,
the
section
8
housing
program
and
then
the
other
non
major
funds.
This
is
a
more
current
resource
focus,
so
we
don't
include
the
fixed
assets
or
the
long-term
debt
on
the
balance
sheet.
The
total
assets
in
this
case
are
9.3
million.
The
total
liabilities
are
1
million,
resulting
in
a
fund
balance
or
net
equity
of
8.3
million.
M
Exhibit
D
is
a
statement
of
revenues,
expenditures
and
changes
in
fund
balance
again
we're
using
fund
accounting
here,
purchases
of
fixed
assets,
payments
on
long-term
debt
are
treated
as
expenditures
versus
assets
broken
down
among
the
same
funds
as
as
the
balance
sheet
was
so
we
have
total
revenues
of
sixteen
point.
Seven
million
and
you'll
see
I
see
you
have
it
on
the
screen
there.
It
says
sixteen
point,
two
I'm
combining
the
revenues
and
the
other
sources,
so
I'm
adding
some
things
together.
M
We
have
the
fiduciary
statements
that
the
city
has
various
fiduciary
funds,
trust
funds
that
it
it
handles
totaling
about
a
hundred
and
seventy-five
thousand
dollars,
there's
cemetery
and
library
and
other
memorial
funds
there
and
that's
the
accounting
for
that
money
pages.
Eighteen
through
thirty
thirty-two
are
notes
to
the
financial
statements.
There's
a
lot
more
detail
in
their
disclosures
about
the
amounts.
I
won't
go
over
those
in
detail.
Unless
anybody
has
any
questions.
M
M
There
are
two
additional
reports
I'd
like
to
mention
as
well.
On
page
forty,
four
through
forty
seven
as
part
of
the
compliance
audit
that
we
performed
we
report
as
to
whether
or
not
we
have
any
compliance
findings
and
I'm
pleased
to
say
that
we
didn't
have
any.
There
are
no
material
weaknesses,
internal
control
or
or
non
compliance
findings
that
we
had
to
report
in
our
and.
A
M
I
C
C
C
C
M
In
that
light,
or
in
this
light
know
it
like
I
said
it
depends
on
the
presentation
that
you're
talking
about
when
I
mentioned,
that
I
was
talking
about,
exhibit
a
which
is
the
full
accrual
balance
sheet.
There
are
three
categories
of
net
position:
there's
the
net
investment
in
capital
assets,
the
biggest
part;
okay,
eighteen
point:
seven
million:
that's
essentially
what
is
already
invested
in
capital
assets
related
debt.
So
it's
not
spendable.
Okay,
then
there's
restricted
for
special
revenue
funds.
M
That's
an
outside
restriction,
it's
a
grant
or
the
state
the
feds,
whoever
that
grantor
might
be
is
restricting
that
money.
The
unrestricted
category
includes
what
the
council
has
control
over
changing,
okay
and
and
the
money
that
you
were
just
talking
about.
I
think
we
used
to
call
them
reserves.
Maybe
we
still
do
those
reserves
are
in
the
unrestricted
category.
On
this
particular
statement,.
C
M
F
The
the
program
itself
still
needs
to
be
approved
by
the
state
and
we're
still
waiting
for
the
the
state's
final
stamp
of
approval
to
create
the
district.
But
even
with
that,
you
need
this
instrument
to
finalize
the
little
details
of
when
the
dollars
get
paid.
This
is
how
the
city
is
going
to
treat
those
dollars
where
we're
going
to
put
them
in
which
funds
how
funds
will
be
distributed
back
to
the
caribou
house,
caribou
senior
housing
LLC.
How
we'll
use
the
funds?
How
often
they'll
be
distributed,
and
so
on?
F
The
the
agreement
right
now
is
is
drafted
with
the
contemplation
of
the
95
percent,
going
to
them,
as
aggrieved
or
as
in
approved
by
the
council
and
the
the
program.
The
five
percent
come
into
the
city
and
the
state
requires
that
there
has
to
be
a
demonstration
that
funds
are
being
utilized
per
the
development
program,
and
so
in
this
agreement
there
is
a
requirement
that
they
have
to
show
costs
associated
with
the
project,
so
that
we
can
then
demonstrate
to
the
state
that
the
funds
are
being
used
in
accordance
with
the
program.
F
There
was
some
discussion
of
tying
a
specific
employment
requirement
into
the
agreement
itself
very
early
on
in
the
discussions
there
was.
There
was
thought
that
there
might
be
ten
employees
on
the
site.
They
were
still
working
through
their
business
model
and
how
that
was
going
to
work.
They
as
I
understand
it,
and
they
can
probably
speak
to
this
better
they'll
be
using
a
lot
more
contract
employees.
F
So,
there's
not
going
to
be
necessarily
employees
on
the
site
on
the
payroll
of
the
company
directly
but
utilizing
those
outside
services,
and
so
there
was
the
language
tying
them
to
having
a
certain
number
of
employees.
On-Site
at
this
point
has
been
stricken
from
the
agreement
just
because
the
business
model
is
not
going
to
be
that
way.
They're
probably
still
going
to
be
some
employees
on-site,
but
they're,
probably
the
best
ones
to
address
that.
F
A
C
Ten
years
down
the
road
we've
given
some
abatements
on
taxes
and
they
sell
and
investors
sell
the
property
and
I
would
just
think
that
our
investment
would
allow
us
to
have
some
input
at
that
point
as
to
whether
or
not
we
allow
that
credit
enhancement
to
go
within
the
owners
depending
on
who
knows
and
waters
are
so
I
haven't.
I
have
a
problem
with
that
section:
I
have
a
problem
with
a
section.
11.11
and
I
am
to
interpret
it
this
long
and
I.
There
is
no
obligation
to
build
this.
C
This
could
sit
idle
for
thirty
years.
I
guess
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
I
mean
most
things.
My
limited
knowledge
is
is
that
well,
okay,
we
will
agree
to
agreement.
You
got
to
two
years
to
get
started
and
five
years
to
complete
fool
with
the
numbers,
so
I
have
a
problem
with
this
issue.
I
also
have
a
problem
with
the
original
value
of
zero.
L
F
L
I
F
L
F
L
F
I
F
I
F
E
J
J
J
J
L
F
N
I
N
N
N
J
And
again,
I,
don't
know
why
we
we
have
bantered
this
back
and
forth.
This
is
so
much
so
sorely
needed
in
this
town.
This
is
a
good
thing
and
I
know
that
they
probably
will
never
see
a
dime
of
a
profit
in
their
lifetime.
Their
kids
may
but
I,
don't
think
that
they
will
they're
putting
their
money
up
for
something
else,
so
badly
needed.
J
I
have
people
come
up
to
me
all
the
time
that
say
when
is
this
gonna
be
open
and
who
do
I
see
to
put
my
mother's
application
in,
and
things
like
this
and
I
think
that
they
need
to
be
applauded
for
what
they're
doing
you're
not
argument,
arguing
I
think
we
need
to
go
forward
as
soon
as
possible.
There
are
people
out
there
waiting
to
come.
G
J
C
Have
a
car
I'd
like
to
speak
in
opposition
of
this
credit
enhancement
agreement
I
will
how
it
title
the
subject.
A
hill
talk
to
I
will
first
state
that
I
found
this
subject.
The
hilltop
tip
to
be
one
of
the
most
elusive
subjects
to
get
accurate
information
on
in
my
seven
years
as
a
counselor
I
will
state.
As
a
fact,
over
the
last
eight
months,
s,
counselor
I
have
received
a
zero
historical
information
on
this
project.
Even
after
requesting
for
such
documents
at
the
March
20
18th
meeting.
C
This
was
the
meeting
I
first
learned
that
the
previous
council
had
already
made
some
type
of
an
agreement.
I
asked
for
the
details
of
this
agreement
from
the
council
from
manager
and
the
former
mayor
and
have
received
nothing
during
the
public
comment
period
on
the
hilltop
in
June,
2018,
Wilfred
Martin
got
up
and
spoke,
and
one
of
his
points
of
objection
was
that
the
subject
was
handled
in
a
very
secretive
way
as
a
current
city,
Carol
city
councillor,
that
can
only
state
that
I
agree
with
mr.
Martin's
objection.
C
I
have
not
been
given,
nor
can
I
find
where
the
hilltop
investors
even
publicly
asked
for
the
tip,
given
no
official
historic
data
on
this
subject.
I
can
only
state
what
I
was
told
verbally
from
several
sources,
so
in
reality
I
suppose
you
could
say
I'm
going
on
rumors,
but
under
the
circumstance,
what
else
can
I
base?
C
My
vote
on
I
was
told
that
the
RSU
in
the
city
had
come
up
with
an
agreement
to
give
give
the
city
to
get
the
city
five
RSU
buildings
in
exchange,
a
local
contractor
was
going
to
tear
them,
tear
four
of
them
down
and
the
hilltop
would
be
turned
over
to
the
investors.
I
have
absolutely
no
problem
with
that
concept.
It's
a
great
deal
for
all
anything
to
help
build
a
new
school.
Once
again,
I
was
given
no
official
historical
data
on
this
subject.
I
can
only
go
on
what
I
was
told
from
several
sources.
C
C
This
assisted
living
center
was
going
to
provide
care
whose
elderly
and
their
families
were
with
very
valuable
community
service
for
that
service,
the
citizens
of
care,
but
would
return
ninety
five
percent
for
20
years
I'll,
let
everyone
make
their
opinion,
form
their
own
opinion,
but
off
the
record
for
a
thirty
five
bed
assisted
living
center,
employing
forty
people
located
right
here
in
Kerrville
I
vote
for
this
deal
and
a
minute
the
20-year
tax
forgiveness,
so
I
guess
I
can
understand.
If
the
council
voted
for
the
deal.
C
The
20
year,
tax
forgiveness
period
in
hilltop
agreement
was
a
state
of
Maine,
like
the
requirement
during
their
certain
research
of
the
agreement,
was
discovered
that
state
had
changed
20
year,
lengths
term
to
30
years.
Several
years
earlier
by
caribou
policy
said
we
could
only
go
out
20.
Thus
the
city
needed
to
change
the
policy
to
meet
this
new
request
from
that
investors.
C
Now
this
is
when
I
started
to
get
suspicious
that
this
agreement
was
more
rubbery
than
I
first
thought
and
that
the
policy
was
being
driven
by
the
project
policy
changed
and
now
the
agreement
is
for
an
assisted-living
Center
complying
40
people
in
exchange
for
95
percent
tax
forgiveness
for
30
years
I'll.
Let
everyone
have
their
opinions.
C
C
C
This
is
where
my
story
matches
what
we're
getting
ready
to
vote
on
tonight.
There
are
many
reasons
for
caribou
taxpayers
to
chip
in
and
help
the
community
become
more
vibrant
and
welcoming
leading
to
good
quality
growth.
Tax
credit
enhancement
agreements-
you
are
correct,
are
a
tool
and,
like
any
tool,
need
to
be
used
properly.
D
E
C
Mention
the
public
hearing
meeting
on
the
subject
several
meetings
ago
and
agree
with
Maynard
st.
Peter's
comment
that
credit
enhancement
agreements
start
off
strong
and
gradually
diminish
to
zero
during
the
term
of
the
agreement
to
accomplish
helping
investors
over
that
five
to
ten
year
hurdle.
This
is
a
specially
true
with
business
opportunities
that
do
not
already
exist
in
our
community.
This
proposed
agreement
we
have
in
front
of
us
tonight,
starts
off
strong
and
end
strong
for
the
entire
thirty
years.
A
proper
question.
We
should
all
ask
what
happens
on
year,
thirty
one.
C
O
C
To
my
liberal
friends,
I
want
to
tell
you
the
care
was
not
going
to
spend
its
way
to
prosperity.
The
zero-based
budget
philosophy
tells
us
that
there's
something
in
the
middle
of
there's
a
sweet
spot
there,
but
regardless
of
philosophy,
success
can
only
be
accomplished
if
everyone
pays
their
fair
share.
In
my
opinion,
all
of
these
changes
to
this
project
is
not.
C
C
A
A
J
J
A
F
F
And
in
2017
spring
of
2017,
there
was
an
amendment
to
the
agreements
that
was
signed
by
then
acting
city
manager,
chief
Mike
Hagen,
which
indicated
that
the
the
city
would
maintain
its
weekly
payroll
system
and
I.
Would
let
you
know
that
already
we've
had
threat
of
litigation
for
trying
to
pursue
the
bi-weekly
payroll
against
the
free
agreement
that
was
signed
in
2017
was.
A
F
So
there,
at
this
point,
we
I've
talked
with
the
finance
director.
He's
indicated
that
from
their
processing
standpoint,
it's
just
a
matter
of
determining
the
timeframe
to
definitely
let
the
employees
know.
This
is
coming
down
the
pipe
and
give
them
a
kind
of
a
grace
period
to
get
ready
for
it,
get
their
finances
in
order.
In
order
to
do
it,
which
could
be
you.
F
F
That
we
don't
know
how
much
we
recognize
that
there
would
be
some
time
savings
with
only
half
the
process
payroll
once
every
other
week.
How
much
time
that's
going
to
save?
We
can't
really
say
because
they're
also
going
to
be
instead
of
doing
accounts
payable
every
week,
they
would
set
those
off
to
handle
those
every
other
week
as
well,
and
there's
they're
just
looking
at
trying
to
not
double
up
on
both
activities
at
the
same
time,
so
they
would
just
offset
them.
So
they're
basically
doing
things
this
every
week.
G
A
G
All
this
discussion,
prior
to
this
back
in
2016
15,
whenever
we
decided
we
wanted
to
do
this.
One
of
the
things
that
upsets
me
more
than
anything
else
is
that
it
wasn't
implemented
and
we
were
never
informed
that
it
wasn't
implemented.
I
was
under
the
assumption
that
we
were
doing
to
repay
okay
and
it's
nobody
has
fault
really
other
than
we
never
get.
The
information
back
and
I
feel
that
if
the
council
directs
the
administration
to
do
something,
it's
not
all
will
just
do
it
when
we
want.
Oh
you
do
it.
G
If
you
have
problems,
you
bring
it
before
her,
so
we
can
discuss
them
and
change
our
minds.
If
that's
the
case,
but
to
find
out
something
doesn't
happen,
and
it's
popping
up
here
an
awful
lot
lately
then
that's
that's,
what's
upsetting
to
me,
okay
and
two-week
payroll
can
be
done.
It
can
be
done
simply
it's
just
a
change
that
people
have
to
adjust
themselves
to
and
adjust
in
their
accounts,
payable
payroll
or
accounts
payable,
scheduled
to
be
done
every
two
weeks
or
is
it
not
necessary?
G
G
J
F
I
J
G
G
L
F
F
A
A
C
A
F
F
F
I
F
Building
but
for
services
rendered
or
to
be
rendered,
there's
a
slight
deduction
and
the
actual
rent
that
he
came
to
the
city,
and
so
it
would
come
out
to
those
about
lease
paying
now
$1,200
for
the
year
he's
providing
those
services,
such
as
taking
care
of
the
wounds
in
front
of
the
building.
The
parking.
F
C
L
F
So
they
this
has
two
parts.
The
the
rates
is
probably
the
more
significant
element
of
this.
This
item
we've
been
looking
at
the
hangar
rates
from
other
airports
in
the
region.
The
in
the
area
that
are
general
aviation,
some
of
the
information
that's
come
back-
indicates
that
new
hangars
are
going
for
close
to
$200
a
month,
older,
hangars,
closer
to
the
one
150
as
well
as
a
hundred
dollars
a
month
and
the
citizens
Airport
committee
has
looked
at
these
rates.
F
F
F
They
have
a
higher
rental
rate.
It's
proposed
that
we
have
a
six-month
one-year
or
two-year
lease
term.
You
know
rates
vary
depending
on
which
term
they're
willing
to
enter
into.
We
could
simplify
that
and
just
go
with
one
month
or
one
year
out.
However,
you
want
to
do
that.
Hangar
B.
This
would
be
the
main
hangar
and
it's
anticipated
that
this
one
would
primarily
be
managed
by
the
FBL
services
in
the
future.
F
As
hopefully,
we
get
somebody
on
board
to
do
that
and
they
would
manage
the
space
in
there
based
on
maintenance
operations
and
what
space
they
have
available,
but
really
not
entering
into
a
long
term
lease
with
any
particular
pilot
for
the
main
hangar,
but
using
that
for
more
of
the
transient
pilots
that
that
might
need
it
for
a
night
here
or
maybe
a
month
at
a
time
and
for
a
week
at
a
time.
So
that's
as
far
as
the
fees
go.
G
F
G
G
J
F
That
you
can
certainly
do
that.
The
only
concern
I
have
is,
if
you
can
get
them
to
enter
into
the
longer
term
leases,
then
you
know
you
have
a
more
solid
revenue
stream
that
you
can
be
budgeting
for
with
based
on
your
lease
agreements
that
you
have,
if
you're,
if
you're
doing
it
just
an
ad-hoc
one
month
at
a
time.
G
I'll
make
a
suggestion
in
respect
to
that.
Maybe
once
you
start
getting
the
interest
that
would
warrant
the
extend,
at
least
as
you
do
that,
then
it
can
be
an
incentive
all
right,
I
mean
we've
got
six
airplanes
assigned
okay
and
basically
now
we're
probably
an
undesignated
Airport
as
far
as
complications
of
concern
all
right.
So
that
lessens
the
availability
of
funds
that
you're
eligible
for
to
do
projects.
So
you
know
I
I,
think
basically,
I
would
think
what
we
probably
need
to
look
at.
G
Is
you
not
need
to
start
seeing
some
performance
at
the
airport
before
you
start
doing
all
these
other
things?
If
things
change
them
by
all
means
bring
it
forward
this.
You
know
it's
a
living
document,
I
think
initially,
you
should
have
a
set
fee
and
then
just
divide
your
contracts
by
12
or
6
or
whatever
it
takes
to
establish
a
monthly
or
bimonthly
or
a
six-month
beep.
I
G
G
Mechanisms,
so
they
can
be
the
attention
prop.
Attention
can
be
put
on
the
door
and
lasts
so
it's
not
about
walking
in
the
breeze,
and
then
you
got
a
service
a
little
bill
than
them,
and
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
come
down.
It's
just
my
thought
process
was
no
long,
it's
not
an
obstruction
or
anything.
That's
outside
of
all
that
stuff.
It's
just
a
recommendation
right.
F
A
A
A
The
cost
of
this
would
be
approximately
one
half
mil
nineteen.
Fifty
thousand
he
figures,
half
a
mil
raises
175,000,
and
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
bring
this
up
to
a
vote
of
the
citizens.
This
November
with
an
explanation
of
what
it
does
and
what
the
cost
was
and
the
cost
would
be
half
a
mil,
and
if
the
citizens
are
supportive
and
then
this
would
be
non-binding,
but
if
the
citizens
are
supportive,
believe
it
put
it
into
next
year's
budget.
So
the
bottom
line
is
some
of
us
have
a
little
more.
I
G
F
Wasn't
an
electronic
one,
if
that's
where
you
were
looking,
but
I've
passed
out
a
hard
copy
here,
what
I,
what
I
found
and
are
you
going
to
that
article?
There's
an
article
in
the
most
recent,
a
municipal
publication
that
outlines
the
different
programs
that
are
available
for
tax
relief
and
what
you're
proposing
mayor
Martin
is
one
of
those
options
and
the
the
city
of
Monmouth
is
I've,
got
three
other
ordinances
from
other
cities
as
well.
F
It
it
tends
to
come
down
to
the
council
would
need
to
decide
what
is
the
age
that
you
want
to
begin?
Providing
the
benefit
for
state
law
says
that
it
has
to
be
62
and
older,
but
some
cities
have
set.
The
limit
at
65
also
would
be
appropriate
to
determine
how
you're
going
to
review
applications.
What
information
you're
going
to
have
on
the
applications
to
determine
the
level
of
assistance
necessary
a
lot
of
cities.
F
They
have
a
criteria
of
reviewing
federal
IRS
forms,
basically
or
other
financial
statements,
but
they
also
set
a
cap
on
the
maximum
amount
of
benefit
that
somebody
can
receive
the
largest
one
that
I've
seen
was
about
five
hundred
dollars.
The
maximum
five
hundred
dollars
per
applicant
and
some
cities
have
a
tier
system
that
if
they
are
a
certain
threshold,
they'd
get
five
hundred
others.
Three
hundred
two
hundred
and.
I
A
G
One
as
a
legislative
body
following
the
state
guidance
we
don't
need
to
put
it
up
to
the
citizen,
aren't
understood.
Secondly,
is
that
we
have
to
choose
one
of
the
policies
in
here
and
go
by
that
we
can't
make
our
own
and
establish
our
own
unless
we
go
by
what
it
says
in
the
state
law
as
to
which
one
gonna
use
mystery.
G
I
A
G
A
G
A
F
F
I'm
out
you're
going
to
say
that's
the
that
is
really
what
you
can
take
the
divorce
and
say
in
order
to
create
this
fun,
this
Assistance
Fund.
We
need
to
raise
the
mail
for
this
a
much
amount
of
money
and-
and
that
really
becomes
your
question,
but
I
can
already
see
counselor
Dawn's
question.
Well,
what's
going
to
be
the
procedure
for
an
administration
of
those
files
and
that's
what
we'd
have
to
definitely
work
through
ahead
of
the
vote
and
make
sure
what
what
program
you're
going
to
be
adopting.
J
A
I
C
F
G
G
Yet
I
would
recommend
that
you
read
all
of
the
four
options
that
are
available
that
and
see
which
one
you
want,
because
there's
162
one
over
there's
a
tax
credit
that
where
senior,
would
do
labor
or
service
for
the
community
up
to
seven
hundred
and
fifty
dollars,
then
there's
the
senior
tax
deferral
which
defers
you
taxes
until
after
you
and
deceased,
and
then
it
becomes
an
estate
issue
and
also
other
than
that.
It
said.
State
law
does
not
authorize
any
other
form
of
local
property.
I
G
A
G
F
But
here
again
they
they
have
to
under
the
homestead
program.
They
have
to
show
that
they've
that
they
qualify
for
the
homestead
credit
and
many
cities
are
saying
that
they
have
to
have
lived
in
their
community
for
at
least
ten
years
and
have
the
homestead
credit
in
place.
So
it's
it's
not
like
you're
just
saying
any
renter
can
come
in
off
the
street
every
month
or
every
year
and
apply
for
it
they
have
to.
J
J
F
J
J
A
C
L
L
L
A
A
A
G
A
A
A
A
G
J
A
J
J
G
A
G
G
A
F
G
C
A
A
I
A
C
That's
not
the
point,
the
point
is
I,
don't
know
what
we're
going
to
tell
them
yet
I,
don't
know
what
the
question
is:
I,
don't
want
to
bring
in
confusion,
I
mean
someone
reads
something
they're
down
here.
The
next
day
you
want.
No
other
money
is
is
just
this
is
the
first
money
tips
come
back
you've.
C
Enjoy
Phil's
knowledge
on
the
subject:
I
personally
enjoy
Dennis
this
theory
on
it.
Like
everybody
else,
I'd
like
to
hear
everybody
else's,
including
I,
mean
I
got
stuck
on
a
half-hour
credit.
I
didn't
know
what
it
meant.
Dave
brought
together
to
the
table,
something
because
I
said
five
hundred
thousand
there's
no
way.
No,
that's
no
I,
don't
know
how
that
well,
but
but
he
brought
to
the
table
and
it's
sort
of
the
fact
that
we
were
here
talking
I,
don't
like
the
idea
of
getting
something.
A
L
L
K
I
suggest
something
what
if
what?
If
the
council
there
seems
to
be
consensus
here
that
you
want
is
someone
who
might
be
administrating
this
program.
Okay,
you've
got
consensus
that
you
want
to
you'd
like
to
do
something
then
you've
got.
K
J
I
J
A
We
think
this
is
worthwhile,
don't
forget
most
likely
the
reason
I
didn't
bring
it
up.
Sooner
is
I
thought
we
were
going
to
be
voting
on
public
safety
in
the
way
that
is
I
figured
you
put
two
items:
either
gonna
cost
money
yeah,
it's
not
good.
So
now,
if
we
go
to
June
we're
probably
to
have
two
items:
they're
looking
the
cost,
but
on
the
ballot
in
June.
That's
that's
my
reason.
A
O
O
O
A
O
A
F
We
are
down
to
the
very
end
of
the
project,
and
the
very
last
thing
that
needs
to
be
done
is
connecting
the
power
to
the
building
and
we've
were
trying
to
work
out
for
several
months,
an
easement
agreement
with
Ameri
to
where
they
would
have
an
easement
across
the
airport
property
from
their
main
supply
to
the
power
drop
on
the
airport
property
and
the
easement
being
across
FAA.
Controlled
property
had
to
have
certain
provisions
in
it.
F
That
talked
about
advanced
notices
and
other
things
and
Ameri
was
just
not
very
willing
to
work
with
us
on
that
language
and
accept
it
and
came
rather
rather
late
that
well,
we
could
just
put
a
private
pull
up
and
they
would
just
connect
to
the
private
pole.
Rather
than
have
it
be
a
and
a
miracle
on
the
airport
property.
But
in
order
to
to
do
a
private
pole,
we
had
to
incur
cost
additional
cost
into
the
project
which
the
state
has
already
approved
as
far
as
the
total
project
cost.
G
G
G
A
A
A
J
A
I
G
C
A
C
G
A
A
Two
openings
on
the
City
Council
and
one
on
the
nervously,
thirty-nine
board
for
this
November
and
if
you're
interested
and
the
last
time
we
interviewed
people
for
an
open
seat,
there
were
eight
or
nine
people.
So
if
you
were
one
of
those
people,
there's
your
chance
to
run
and
papers
have
to
be
in
by.
A
K
A
couple
other
announcements:
if
I
could
do
under
I,
am
agenda
item
nine
reports
of
officer
staff
and
board
committees.
Okay,
on
Wednesday
of
this
week,
I
the
clerk's
office
will
be
unable
to
process
any
certified
copies
for
births
from
1995
to
present
for
deaths
from
2011
to
present
or
issue
marriage
licenses
or
certified
copies
from
January
of
2017.
K
The
program
that
we
use
to
get
those
records
is
being
upgraded,
so
it's
Wednesday
morning,
so
no
certified
copies
don't
get
married.
Okay,
the
mayor
is
correct
that
we
have
two
openings
on
the
council
and
one
on
the
RSU
plus
the
Jefferson.
Carry
board.
I
have
only
had
one
individual,
take
out
nomination
papers
for
the
council
and
has
not
been
returned
and
one
has
taken
out
papers
for
the
RSU
board
and
they
have
not
been
returned
and
I
have
had
none
on
Jefferson
Carrie.
K
A
K
Had
some
people
in
June
vote
couple
I
do
my
ballot
clerk
training
at
the
same
time,
I
have
to
be
here
the
deputy
and
I
and
I.
Do
my
training
but
I'm
not
planning
to
have
training
for
this
election
in
June,
because
we
just
had
not
June
September,
because
we
just
had
the
election
in
in
June
and
it's
a
small
election,
so
I
have
to
be
open
under
state
statute.
It's
not
my
choice.
A
C
L
I
A
A
Groundbreaking
about
this
and
he
checked
into
it,
and
he
sent
me
an
email
on
Friday
or
Saturday
and
they're,
giving
him
pretty
much
the
same.
Runaround
I
didn't
respond
because
I'm
not
a
hundred
percent
sure
of
the
facts,
but
were
we
offered
this
skim
coat
or
is
this
something
we
were
dreaming?
Well,
we
offered
that
the.
F
L
A
I
D
A
L
A
C
D
K
F
An
email
update
this
afternoon
that
they've
conducted
the
sampling,
the
core
sampling
they've,
also
done
the
topographic
survey.
They
did
it
with
a
drone
and
I
guess:
there's
some
hang-ups
with
getting
the
data
conversion
that
they
need
in
order
to
to
get
the
topography
laid
out
concept
design.
So
that's
the
latest
I
do
I
can
also
say
that
the
the
last
property
owner
we've
been
trying
to
reach
for
a
long
time.
The.