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C
It
would
be
managed
by
three
people
elected
by
the
citizens,
and
they
would
make
sure
that
that
fund
was
there
to
help
take
care
of
the
hospital
and
every
year
there's
even
today,
there's
still
one
person
elected
by
the
citizens
to
be
on
that
board
and
to
manage
those
funds.
Okay,
this
point:
it's
basically
an
investment
fund
that
gets
managed.
Okay
in
1916,
the
town
voted
to
accept
the
legacy.
So
this
is
four
years
after
dr.
C
Actually,
they
would
contribute
it
to
the
carry
managers
and
the
city
would
have
to
raise
$40,000
to
also
help
in
the
building
of
the
hospital,
and
so
in
1922.
All
of
the
funding
that
they
needed
was
pulled
together.
They
had
the
20,000
from
the
town.
24
little
over
24,000
was
contributed
by
individuals.
The
state
contributed
their
10,000
and
the
carry
managers
of
that
carry
fund.
They
contributed
almost
24,000
toward
the
hospital
in
1923
the
vote.
C
The
city
voted
to
begin
building
the
hospital
okay
and
as
we
as
we
started,
getting
into
this
it's
important
to
Ruth.
Yes,
start
to
compartmentalize,
you
have
the
city,
and
now
you
have
this
group
that
manages
the
fund,
and
now
you
have
the
hospital.
You
have
three
kind
of
distinct
entities
that
are
being
created
and
then
later
on
and
we'll
see
a
fourth
that.
D
C
C
C
Okay,
it
was
also
made
very
clear
that
the
town
manager
is
not
responsible
for
buildings
purchasing
and
materials
and
supplies
coming
under
the
school
department,
the
Carey
Hospital
Public
Library
and
the
Jefferson
Carey
Hospital
fund,
so
the
town
manager
does
these
things
and
the
hospital
does
its
own
thing
over
here.
Okay,.
B
B
C
In
45
the
you
see
a
little
bit
more
empowerment
to
the
the
fund
group
that
initial
Hospital
fund
in
1945.
They
were
empowered
to
accept
and
receive,
in
behalf
of
the
town
of
caribou,
any
gift
or
legacy
by
any
person
or
persons
or
a
body
corporate
to
the
Kerry
Memorial
Hospital,
or
to
the
town
of
caribou
for
the
benefit
of
said
hospital.
So
if
somebody
came
to
town-
and
they
came
in
the
doors
into
a
city
council
meeting,
he
said-
hey
I
want
to
I
want
to
donate
half
a
million
dollars
to
the
hospital.
C
B
C
Of
starts
to
kind
of
evolve
that
way:
yeah
okay
in
1953.
This
is
when
we
have
this
fourth
body
that
gets
created
that
carry
Hospital
district,
which
is
a
body
politic
and
corporate.
It's
basically
a
completely
separate
political
entity.
Almost
as
you
would
consider,
Presque
Isle
is
from
Caribou
city.
It's
completely
separate.
They
are
their
own
thing.
Okay,
the
difference,
though,
with
the
district
is
that
the
governing
board
of
trustees
are
appointed
by
the
City
Council,
so
that
that's
the
leverage
in
a
sense
that
the
city
would
have
over
the
board
or
the
hospital
district.
C
Is
the
council
appoints
to
the
trustees,
but
beyond
that
they
are
their
own
own
entity,
okay,
and
and
so
they
can
acquire
property
for
the
hospital
and
related
medical
or
surgical
purposes.
They
were
tasked
with
erecting
enlarging,
repairing
equipping
and
maintaining
a
hospital
building
or
buildings
related
to
the
hospital
medical,
surgical
equipment,
completing
grading,
furnishing,
rebuilding,
adding
on
to
renovating
and
otherwise
bettering
the
conditions
of
any
in
all
buildings.
B
C
C
C
So
it's
not
legal
obligations
with
the
backing
of
the
city.
It's
they
are
the
legal
obligations
of
the
district
themselves.
In
fact,
it's
it's
also
we'll
get
into
this
I.
Think
yeah
on
this
next
slide
that
the
district
itself
cannot
be
dissolved
as
long
as
it
has
dead.
So
in
that
sense
the
city
would
never
incur
any
of
its
debt
because
it
it.
E
C
Be
dissolved
as
long
as
it
has
debt,
but
in
the
53
it
was,
the
law
was
was
interesting.
The
way
it
was
worded,
I've
highlighted
that
there,
in
the
yellow
that
when
the
district
is
free
and
clear
of
all
indebtedness,
all
property
and
assets
are
to
be
turned
over
to
the
city
for
continued
operation
and
hospital
benefit.
It
was
an
automatic
trigger
under
the
1953
law
that,
as
soon
as
they
were
out
of
debt,
the
hospital
in
every
aspect
of
it
became
the
city's
responsibility.
C
C
Okay
in
54,
so
up
until
this
time,
the
hospital
was
owned
by
the
city.
That
I
should
say
the
buildings
that
the
hospital
was
in
were
owned
by
the
city,
the
city
deeded,
those
to
the
district.
Okay
and
in
1955
the
hospital
district.
Their
debt
ceiling
was
raised
from
three
hundred
thousand
to
three
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand,
and
then
you
have
the
next
year
1957
the
state
authorized
the
hospital
district
to
convey
portions
of
property
to
other
people.
C
You
then
have
you
know
yes
in
73.
This
is
where
the
law
was
changed
ever
so
slightly
to
say
that
the
district
may
be
dissolved
by
a
legally
constituted
vote
of
the
Cariboo
City
Council.
So
it's
no
longer
an
automatic
trigger
when
they're
out
of
debt
they
become
the
city's
responsibility.
The
City
Council
has
to
actually
vote
to
dissolve
them,
but
they
can't
be
dissolved
as
long
as
they
have
debt.
C
C
In
75,
the
district
was
authorized
to
assess
taxes
so
again,
they've
been
given
this
8
million
dollar
potential
bonding
capacity,
and
if
they
need
to
generate
revenues
to
pay
off
those
bonds
or
those
debts
under
the
1975
law,
they
can
now
assess
taxes.
Just
like
the
school
district
does
today,
okay,
they
would
go
through,
have
a
budget
meeting
and
say
we
need
to
raise
taxes
and
they
send
a
note
to
the
city.
That
says,
please
add
this
to
your
mill
rate.
They
haven't
done
that,
but
they
have
that
power.
C
C
In
78,
they
entered
into
a
lease
agreement
with
the
city,
and
here
again
when
we,
when
we
talk
about
the
hospital,
the
hospital
is
its
organization
right,
the
the
doctors,
the
patients,
the
administrators,
that's
the
hospital,
and
the
district
now
has
built
the
brick
and
mortar
buildings.
They've
bought
the
land
and
in
1978
they
leased
all
of
those
facilities
to
the
city,
so
that
the
hospital
could
now
occupy
that
property
and
the
the
rent.
C
The
agreement
specifies
that
the
rent
is
as
required
to
pay
the
debt
obligations
of
a
district
right
now,
we're
not
paying
anything
on
an
annual
basis
to
the
district
they're
in
a
sense
covering
where
their
costs
related
to
those
facilities.
So
the
city's
hospital
is
able
to
occupy
those
buildings
for
free,
okay,
I.
C
C
In
93
this
was
this
was
a
big
step
in,
for
both
the
district
and
the
city
there
was
starting
to
there
were
discussions
taking
place
about
combining
the
Kerry
medical
center
and
Tanic
and
ways
of
doing
that,
because
the
hospital
is
a
city
hospital
and
we
accepted
the
obligation
to
have
a
city
hospital
clear
back
in
1916
when
we
accepted
the
gift.
We
also
needed
to
be
authorized
to
divest
ourselves
of
that
obligation,
and
so
the
1993
law
authorized
the
City
and
the
hospital
district.
C
If,
if
a
separate
entity
was
somehow
created,
a
nonprofit
entity
that
was
willing
to
take
on
all
of
those
obligations,
the
City
Council
could
basically
divest
itself
of
the
hospital
obligation
into
this
other
nonprofit
entity.
If,
if
it
was
so
voted
and
the
Kari
Medical
Center
and
the
board,
they
could
do
the
same
thing.
They
could
say
we're
going
to
turn
over
all
obligations
related
to
this
hospital
to
this
separate
nonprofit
entity
that
gets
created
in
order
to
combine
the
two
hospitals
together.
C
Okay,
there
are
conditions
in
order
to
do
that,
though,
any
indebtedness
is
clear
or
a
repayment
of
such
is
provided
for.
So
if
the
city's
or
if
the
hospital
district
still
has
debt,
they
can't
just
say
we're
no
longer
going
to
have
to
pay
that
it's
either
has
to
be
paid
off
or
the
new
nonprofit
entity
has
to
have
a
way
of
continuing
the
payments
to
make
sure
everything's
taken
care
of.
C
E
C
You
have
the
influx
of
money
from
the
city,
as
well
as
from
the
jesuits
and
hospital
fund
managers
to
build
the
hostler
by
land
built
buildings
and
those
eventually
getting
turned
over
to
the
hospital
district,
and
you
still
have
the
hospital
board
of
directors
that
is
in
place
again.
They
managed
the
hospital,
but
you
have
now
the
hospital
district
that
takes
care
of
land
buildings,
improvements
and,
and
so
on.
C
It's
interesting
that
in
the
city
charter,
it
talks
about
that.
The
hospital
is
required
to
submit
capital
improvement
plans
to
the
City
Council
for
inclusion
in
our
in
our
budget,
but
with
the
creation
of
the
hospital
district.
The
district
now
does
all
of
its
capital
improvements
and
being
a
separate
government
entity.
It
has
its
own
capital,
improvement,
budget
and
handling
of
those
things,
and
so
we
don't
get
capital
improvement,
requests
from
the
hospital
anymore.
That's
all
handled
on
the
district
side.
E
C
C
E
C
Right,
okay,
so
you
know,
is
this:
this
just
kind
of
illustrates
the
timeline
in
the
creation
of
the
four
different
entities.
The
next
slide
that
I've
got
here
just
another
way
of
looking
at
it.
You've
got
caribou
city
and
its
jurisdiction
on
one
side
of
the
Gulf,
a
caribou,
a
hospital
district.
On
its
side,
the
trustees
are
appointed
by
the
caribou
City
Council,
but
they
are
their
own.
C
C
Right
right,
so
that's
I'm
still
trying
to
figure
out
why
I
know
that
they're
audited
separately
and
they
have
their
own
thing.
I
just
don't
know
why
we're
not!
Why
why
our
budget
and
our
financials
aren't
also
reflecting
that
as
being
our
gift,
Claire
back
from
1916,
so
I
I'm
still
looking
at
that
one.
C
Right,
the
last
slide
I've
got
I
know
there
was
a
question
as
far
as
flowcharting
management,
of
the
different
things
and
the
this
is
the
organizational
aspect.
So
you
you
have
the
citizens
of
the
city
and
they
elect
the
seven
city
councillors
and
you
appoint
a
city
manager
and
you
also
appoint
the
board
of
directors
for
the
hospital,
the
board
of
directors,
they're
responsible
for
the
hospital
administration,
the
hospital
staff
and
any
outside
contracts
that
they
might
seek
to
have,
for
instance,
quorum.
C
C
Okay,
you
have
the
the
citizens
that
elect
the
Jefferson
Kari
fund
trustees
and
their
sole
responsibility
is
to
manage
the
funds
and
provide
them
to
the
hospital
as
as
necessary,
and
you
have
the
hospital
district
and
the
reason
why
these
lines
are
dashed
is
because,
because
they
are
their
own
separate
government
entity,
they
are
in
some
way
directly
responsible
to
the
citizens,
but
because
the
City
Council
appoints
them
they're,
also
indirectly
responsible
to
the
City
Council.
So
there's
no
solid
line
there
between
the
city
and
the
district
or
from
the
citizens
of
the
district.
C
B
C
Right
there
was
a
question
of
how
does
there
is
a
separate
Jefferson,
Carey
Foundation,
which
is
a
separate
501
c3
that
has
been
created.
It
was
created
in
a
sense
out
of
the
hospital
that
it
sits.
It
goes
out
and
right,
it's
a
fundraising
entity
basically,
and
its
sole
purpose
is
for
the
benefit
of
the
hospital
and
the
citizens
of
the
city,
and
so.
B
D
C
B
C
B
C
No
okay,
so
I
know
that
some
of
the
questions
that
that
are
I've
been
coming
to
me
are:
if,
if
the
hospital
is
still
a
city
hospital,
should
they
be
functioning
as
a
public
body
water
having
advertised
meetings
and
open
to
the
public
in
the
short
answer?
From
from
my
point
of
view,
is
yes,
they
should
be
advertising
appropriately
according
to
state
law
and
should.
D
C
Open
to
the
public,
and
in
talking
with
what
Galen
and
Chris
they
would
tell
you.
Yes,
anybody
from
the
public's
welcome
to
come
or
meetings
and
listen
to
what's
going
on
if
they
want
to,
and
so
it's
a
matter
of,
are
they
advertising
it
properly
and
doing
what
they
need
to
that
way,
but
where
the
district
is
its
own
separate
thing?
Yes,
they
should
be
handling
themselves
in
the
same
manner.
But
it's
again
it's
it's
almost
like
we
can,
as
a
city,
go
to
press
file
and
say
hey,
you
guys
should
be
doing
this.
F
B
C
Yet
it
really
would
follow
to
the
citizens.
At
that
point,
I
mean
you
as
a
city
councilor,
you
don't
have
jurisdiction
over
the
district,
okay
other
than
as
an
appointing
board.
It
would
fall
on
the
citizens.
The
concerned
citizens
or
the
state
could
step
in
and
say
from
the
state
attorney
general's
office.
Hey
we're
gonna
slap
your
hand
because
you're
not
following
the
protocols.
They
could
do
that
if
they,
if
they
chose
to.
B
C
G
G
B
Can't
mean
this
okay,
just
because
we
appointed
that
we
appoint
your
place.
That's
right!
So
does
that
give
me
as
a
counselor
or
this
council
as
a
group
to
go
to
your
meetings
and
saying
you
should
be
doing
business
in
that
I.
Don't
think
so?
No
so
is
it
is
it
our?
Can
we
call
the
directors
in
and
say,
can
we
say
you
should
be
doing
this
this
or
that
can
we
do
that?
I
mean
I.
Think
we're
asking
questions
that
we
don't.
We
can't
enforce
it
unless
we
change
the.
H
C
Right
and
I
was
thinking
about
that
as
well
I
as
an
ex-official
member
of
the
hospital
board
of
directors
and
I
get
a
packet
of
information
every
month,
and
some
of
that
information
is
not
sensitive.
That
I
could
certainly
also
be
including
that
and
your
monthly
packets
as
well
so
you'd
have
even
more
information
about.
What's
going
off
the
hospital
and
that's
you
know
that
doesn't
require
a
lot
of
extra
work
on
my
part
to
make
sure
that
you
have
that
in
your
hand,
so
I
I
can
start
doing
that.
D
B
C
B
G
G
Way
as
they
could
be
asked
in
the
song
get
along
good.
Look
there
they're
doing
the
only
thing
that
perked
my
ears
when
this
whole
thing
started
was
when
I
found
out
somebody
had
a
right
to
send
the
Cariboo
taxpayers
and
it
just
might
ursus
picked
up.
I
never
knew
such
a
thing
existed,
I
mean
I,
knew
about
the
company
and
I
knew
about
the
school,
and
here
comes
this
ability
descendant,
even
though
everything
Trent
I
just
did
just
perked
my
curiosity
that
I
should
know
and
how
the
system.
B
E
E
B
B
H
B
E
E
B
D
D
G
Just
wanted
to
understand
operation,
but
you
said
some
things
tonight
that
all
of
a
sudden
I
thought
they
were
subject
to
their
net,
like
maybe
we're
not
as
subject
to
it
as
much
as
I
thought,
and
that's
why
I
say
I
just
have
to
keep
asking
diplomatic
questions.
Yeah
we
have
a
meeting
coming
up
in
a
couple
of
months,
like
you
said
Nicole
that
they
meet.
We
meet
every
quarter
except
my
questions
then
so
so.
C
They
as
far
as
their
their
debt
is
concerned.
They,
the
auditors,
gave
a
report
of
the
last
Board
of
Directors
meeting
for
the
hospital
and
in
that
report
auditors
indicated
if
the
hospital
doesn't
increase
or
incur
any
additional
debt.
They
could
be
out
of
debt
in
two
years,
but
the
hospital
right
now
is
in
the
works
of
adding
additional
space
to
the
building
and
maybe
expanding
the
VA
part
of
the
hospital
which
is
going
to
add
more
debt.
And
so
it's
it's
going
to
be
in
debt
or
for.
C
F
C
Trustees
and
if
you're
okay
has
the
council
I'm
going
to
just
set
this
aside
on
the
shelf
and
start
working
on
other
things
and
if
any
other
questions
need
to
come
up
specific
to
them
or
to
those
groups.
Okay,
I
can
address
things
with
the
hospital
board
of
directors
because
I'm
on
that
board.
But
if
there's
something
with
the
the
district
and
that's
maybe
something
that
you
need
to
take
up
individually
with
them.
Unless
you
want
to
take
formal
action
as
a
council
to
direct
me
to
do
otherwise,.
B
Which
brings
up
I
mean
this
is
a
lot
of
work
and
I
would
request
from
the
council
that
if
you
have
a
project
or
task
or
something
you'd
like
to
manage
you
to
work
on,
if
it's
going
to
take
more
in
a
couple
hours,
it
should
be
brought
to
the
coast,
and
then
the
council
will
decide
if
the
manager
wants
to
spend
his
time.
I
mean
this
is
all
great
stuff,
and-
and
it's
good
to
know
this-
you
were
but
three
hours.
B
You
have
this:
you
have
a
city
to
write
so
anyway,
just
because,
if
we
all
had
our
own
pet
projects,
we
have
to
hire
no
advantage
behind
the
city.
So
I
would
ask
that
if
we
have
projects
were
in
there
all
worthwhile,
but
so
that
the
managers
not
working
on
five
or
six
of
them
at
a
time
that
we
decide
amongst
the
whole
council.
B
C
C
C
F
C
B
B
We're
going
to
go
five
steps.
Take
the
average
of
these
communities
there.
You
go
we're
going
to
put
that
average
as
step
three
step
four
step
after
year:
three,
okay,
so
right
there,
the
average
goes
their
first
year.
People
get
six
percent
less
than
that,
and
then
they
get
2%
2%
all
right.
And
then
beyond
that
you
had
another
2%
twice
the
longevity
yeah.
You
know
you
talked
about
longevity
in
a
chart
like
that,
and
then
you
talked
about
longevity
after
5,
10
and
15
years.
Well,
I.
B
B
E
E
C
The
first
draft
I
said:
oh
it
had
it
at
5,
10
15.
The
concern
was
this
from
the
department
heads
was
you're
saying.
Then
somebody
has
to
wait
15
years
to
be
considered
that
they've
got
their
job
and
they're
proficient
at
it
and
they
can
be
a
contributor
amongst
their
peers,
and
you
also
want
to
keep
them
there
longer
I
thought
was
it.
C
Theoretically,
if
if
an
employee
is
with
you
and
and
you
haven't,
created
a
an
upward
mobility
position
for
them
after
10
years,
then
they
probably
they're
either
in
the
position
of
they
don't
want
anything
different
and
they're,
fine,
whether
that
or
they
are
looking
somewhere
else
and
they're
going
to
go
somewhere
else.
But
if
you
have
a
mo,
if
you
have
an
upper
mobility
position,
we
we
use
the
the
term
you're
going
from
broom
pusher
to
janitorial.
You
know
a
supervisor
to
public
works.
Director
or
not
saying
they've
went
from.
B
C
You
know,
but
in
your
organization
you
should
be
able
to
move
people
up,
and
so,
if
somebody
gets
to
ten
years
and
they've
got
their
longevity
and
they're
not
willing
to
move
up
into
management
or
supervisor
responsibilities,
they
just
want
to
continue
doing
what
they're
doing
then
they'll
just
continue
getting
paid
what
they're
paid,
but
if
it
comes
a
time
when
they
are
willing
to
be
now
a
supervisor
than
that
step
up
that
becomes
their
next
pay
increase
and
so
you're
in
a
sense
trying
to
get
people
to
think
long
term.
Career.
C
Then
they
have
that
same
choice.
To
make
do
I
am
I
willing
to
continue
to
be
here
after
my
longevity
and
continue
to
get
paid
when
I
paid
working
with
who
I'm
working
with
or
working
elsewhere,
and
that
also
I
guess
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
that
wages
is
only
one
element
of
a
complete
benefit
package.
B
E
They
have
yet
they
have
the
opportunity
to
overhead
if
they
want
to,
and
when
you
get
two
percent
of
a
particular
salary.
You
get
it
that
year,
then,
the
next
year
your
salaries
increase
or
you're
going
to
get
two
percent
of
that
increase
anyway.
So
we're
still
going
to
be
going
up.
I,
don't
think
that
we
need
the
longevity
I
think
I
think
we
should
give
them
a
Cola
every
year.
They
know
they'll
get
something
every
year,
but.
E
B
C
C
There
could
be
a
way
of
saying
yeah
we're
going
to
take
six
to
ten
thousand,
but
maybe
we
don't
want
to
include
cities
from
this
area
in
that
category,
but
maybe
we
also
want
to
include
Arnall
that
has
more
than
ten
thousand
people,
because
it
it's
just
barely
over
ten
thousand
people.
It's
valuation
is
similar
to
ours,
and
it's
not
that
far
away.
Others.
E
E
Sorry,
not
population
valuation,
but,
and
so
if
you,
if
you
take
a
look
at
those
well
other
than
a
couple
of
trees,
they're
all
way
over
in
when
you've
got
a
much
higher
valuation
in
property,
you've
got
a
better
tax
rate.
To
begin
with,
so
I
think
we
should
be
looking
at
towns
with
the
evaluations
right
around
powers.
E
B
E
Text
over
and
when
you
start
looking
at
these
and
I
started
looking
at
those
and
I'm
going.
Oh,
my
gosh
look
at
the
difference
in
that
you
know,
and
even
the
ones
that
are
down
there
in
population
their
population
you
source
in
the
summertime
mm-hmm,
you
know,
so
we
should
be
going
with
evaluation
and.
C
B
B
D
E
E
B
B
B
C
B
C
What
I
just
brought
up
for
you?
This
is
the
list,
according
to
the
Maine
Municipal
Association
of
the
cities
that
are
contributing
to
the
survey
okay,
so,
for
instance,
as
far
as
the
manager
or
the
administrator
okay,
you
have
out
of
all
of
these
cities
and
I'll
just
show
you
by
my
population.
As
you
go
down
through
this,
you
can
see
that
many
of
these
cities
aren't
contributing
any
information
to
the
survey.
C
If
if
you
said
that,
rather
than
looking
at
population
or
valuation,
you
just
said
we
want,
every
position
is
to
have
20
samples
to
be
looked
at
and
we
find
the
20
closest
numbers
to
for
that
position,
and
we
just
take
the
average
for
the
20
positions
that
we
find
and
that's
the
average
we
could
do
that
I
mean
if
it
give
you
an
example.
I
looked
Wanda,
Raymond
or
finance
director
is
leaving
for
her
position
of
cities
between
six
to
ten
thousand
population.
C
There's
only
16
cities
that
responded
to
the
survey,
but
that's
at
six
to
ten
thousand.
If
we
went
below
that
and
we
picked
up
another
four
cities,
we
read
be
able
to
get
our
20
and
and
I
actually
went
through
that
process
today
and
it
really
didn't
adjust
for
her
average
down
very
much.
But
some
positions-
we're
really
trying
to
just
do-
is
come
up
with
the
tool.
What
is
the
tool
that
we're
gonna
use,
and
is
it
simple
enough
to
replicate.
B
A
A
A
C
Holton
they
contributed
for
the
city
manager.
You
know
we
have
to
go
through
each
each
line
and
cuz
under
administration.
They
might
have
ten
positions
under
planning.
They've
got
ten
positions
and
not
every
city
categorizes
in
those
positions.
The
same
way
or
gives
the
same
titles
even
achieve
Susi
pointed
this
out
to
me
that
even
the
list
of
six
to
ten
thousand
population.
B
B
You
pick
a
range
and
there's
only
two
or
three
well
then
you're
going
to
have
to
invest
again
if
you've
got
twenty
twenty-five
pounds
and
ten
or
twelve
all
you
know
have
something
but
I
mean.
Is
there
any
difference?
I
mean
what
am
I
late
dave
says
this
forty
job
but
positions,
but
there's
no
difference
in
using
valuation
for
population
in
terms
of
the
use
of
the
tool.
Is
there?
Yes,.
C
C
Instance,
Bar
Harbor
has
a
population
of
only
fifty
five
hundred
people,
but
its
valuation
more
so
you've,
just
because
of
where
they're
at
you
know,
in
that
County
close
to
the
beach
the
type
of
homes
that
are
getting
built
there.
Their
valuation
is
significantly
different
than
the
population
that
they
have
in
there
as
permanent
resident
population.
No.
H
B
A
C
C
Factor
you
could
start
at
I
mean
you
could
say
we're
going
to
look
at
a
percentage
off
of
caribou
for
the
smallest
population
evaluation
to
try
to
find
our
initial
results.
Good
I'm,
gonna,
clear,
Prescott!
Well,
now
we're
gonna
use
this
criteria
to
try
to
narrow
down.
If
we
can't
get
our
survey
results.
The
number
that
we
want,
then,
will
will
branch
out
to
the
next
one.
Oh
hi,
next
one
to
the
wall.
C
It's
it's
all
over
the
place
just
another
example
using
the
same
criteria,
you
know
again,
Wanda's
position
had
sixteen
results.
Looking
at
the
same
thing,
the
deputy
treasurer,
there
was
only
five
cities
that
responded
to
the
survey,
and
so
in
order
to
get
ten
results,
we'd
have
to
really
expand
that
out.
Even
the
treasurer
position.
There
was
only
two
cities
that
responded
to
the
survey
between
six
to
ten
thousand
population:
I'm.
Okay,
widening
that
as
far
as
the
park,
condition
or
evaluation,
whatever
it
is,
I
guess
the
question
of
how
many?
B
D
B
C
They
I've
asked
the
same
question:
the
concern
with
tying
adjustments
to
evaluations
as
you're
now
getting
into
a
merit-based
system,
and
the
concern
of
is
that:
do
we
have
the
tool
in
place
to
administrative
leave,
handle
that
type
of
increased
system
in
a
totally
non
biased
way
and
in
a
way
such
that
it
is
uniformly
fair
based
on
every
position,
that's
out
there,
or
is
it
easier
just
to
have
a
step
in
grade
system,
which
is
what
this
is?
The
draft
that
I
have
basically.
D
C
C
D
G
C
B
B
The
central
government
mandated
that
you
are
now
uncommon,
eight
to
five
towns,
you're,
one
town,
you
five
or
ten,
then
they
just
did
it
I
mean
because,
like
Jeff
wars,
we've
talked
about
earlier.
It's
not
gonna
happen
with.
Unless
there's
a
lot
of
money
incentive
or
worry,
your
mains
will
go
mate.
It's
just
just
life.
Just
the
way
people.
G
C
Sounds
typically
like
you,
I've
only
come
through
a
merit
system
whenever
I've
worked.
Of
course,
you
know
what
part
of
the
country
I'm
coming
from,
but
it
was
typically
the
the
City
Council
would
put
in
the
budget.
If
there
was
enough
room
in
the
budget,
they
would
say.
Okay,
this
is
how
much
we're
allocating
to
work
merit
increases
and
through
the
annual
evaluation
process
and
the
cities
would
have
software
that
they
could
go
through
every
position
and.
F
C
Would
know
every
year
similar
to
what
we've
what
we
adopted
back
in
2000
whenever
it
was
fifteen
criteria
for
every
patient
position,
that
was
may
be
different
for
each
position
as
well
and
the
supervisors
would
go
through
okay.
How
are
they
on
their
work
ethic?
How
are
they
on
their
loyalty?
How
are
they
on
their
their?
D
B
H
B
E
B
C
C
F
C
C
J
C
The
14th
I
can
just
tell
you
their
things
right
now
that
we've
we
tentatively
have
on
the
agenda
for
the
14th
event,
your
typical
consent
items
with
finances
dave.
Has
he
sent
out
a
bid
request
for
chip
seal
sand
chip,
seal
stone,
Shimon
patch
culverts
paint,
paving
one
painting
to
basically
a
lot
of
public
works
bids
that
need
to
be
approved.
F
C
Hagen
wants
to
talk
about
a
statewide
jurisdiction
for
the
officers.
We
have
a
request
for
extension,
of
a
liquor
license
on
premises
for
an
or
main
Brewing
Company
rubbish,
hauler,
permit
renewal
tentatively
discussion
regarding
an
opioid
lawsuit
that
we
could
become
party
to.
We
have
the
CDBG
application
approval
for
the
rossignol
daycare
facility.
I
know
she's
still
working
to
pull
information
together
on
that
and
we
have
the
ordinance
pertaining
to
Tiff's.
D
B
C
C
These
are,
and
this
criteria
all
came
from
the
Citizens
Advisory
Committee.
They
wanted
to
look
at
these
different
things
is
for
one.
Is
this
going
to
be
a
landmark
element
of
the
city?
Is
it
going
to
stand
out,
be
something
which
we're
proud
of
you
know
can
can
draw
attention
to
the
city
and,
of
course,
different
factors
associated
with
that?
Is
it
on
a
high
traffic
area.
The
architectural
quality
of
it
is
total
significance
of
the
site.
C
We
are
looking
at
number
of
homes,
religious
facilities,
schools,
businesses
and
parks
in
proximity
to
the
different
sites
that
we're
looking
at
as
far
as
the
existing
facilities,
meaning
if
we,
the
existing
facilities
on
the
existing
current
police
station
current
fire
station,
but
some
of
the
properties
that
we're
looking
at
also
have
existing
facilities,
and
so
are
they
do
they
meet
a.da
requirements?
Are
there
short-term
maintenance
needs
that
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
such
as
the
mean
cotton
building.
C
We're
gonna
have
to
replace
the
heating
system,
gonna
have
to
replace
the
roof
and
making
sure
we
have
some
of
those
costs
incorporated
into
the
study.
As
far
as
the
the
sites
themselves,
how
is
the
access,
the
utilities,
the
topography
of
the
property,
the
ownership
proximity
to
current
fueling?
Stops
environmental
cleanup
issues
response
times
to
surrounding
jurisdictions?
C
Access
from
you
know,
proximity
to
the
CBD,
not
necessarily
response
time,
but
because
of
its
position
in
the
community.
Does
it
also
help,
just
because
of
its
placement,
maybe
stave
off
certain
elements
being
in
the
area
so
approximately
to
the
CBD,
the
central
business
district,
the
high
school
middle
school
elementary
school?
C
Are
there
some
indirect
impacts,
such
as
potential
uses
that
would
be
lost
if
we
built
on
those
properties
or
utilized
different
facilities?
Are
there
some
uses
that
might
be
facilitated
that
could
come
into
a
property,
because
we
also
were
on
that
same
property?
Would
it
help
clean
up
a
blighted
area?
If
we
went
on
to
a
particular
property,
are
there
strings
attached
to
those
other
properties
or
buildings?
We
know
that
the
meek
on
building
having
looked
into
that
we
we
have
to
pay
the
federal
government
20
percent
value
of
that
building.
D
C
And
they
would
have
to
be
compensated
for
that,
so
those
are
some
of
the
strings
that
we
need
to
look
at
with
different
buildings.
Is
there
going
to
be
tax
loss
depending
on
where
we
build
this
financial
estimates
project
costs
over?
You
know
for
a
five-year
period
of
time
that
might
be
involved
with
it.
Are
we
going
to
have
to
pay
the
federal
dollars
back
or
State
dollars
back?
C
Is
there
going
to
be
land
acquired
with
it
and,
of
course,
useful
life
of
the
facilities
themselves,
so
with
these
different
options
that
we're
looking
at
we're
trying
to
go
through
each
of
these
criteria
and
come
up
with
these
different
factors
and
looking
at
as
you
as
we
start
to
fill
this
in
green
means,
it's
better
red
means
it's
worse
and
we're
not
trying
to
delve
too
much
into
a
lot
of
dollar
figures.
Yet
just
we're
just
not
at
that
point
we're
still
very
high
level
but
option
zero
is
just
maintaining
existing
facilities
option.
C
One
would
be
that
we
just
renovate
the
police
station
where
it
is
downstairs
and
maintain
the
fire
station
and
again
we'll
fill
all
of
these
in
option.
Two
is
building
a
brand
new
police
station
somewhere,
but
leave
the
fire
station
where
it's
at
and
just
maintain
it
so
I'd
like
to
call
that
one
true
blue.
It's
all
about
the
police.
C
At
this
point,
the
properties
that
they've
asked
us
to
look
at
include,
of
course,
the
existing
site,
and
you
know
for
option
five.
The
existing
site
wouldn't
pertain
to
option
five
because
we're
talking
about
a
brand
new
somewhere
else,
but
other
properties
we're
looking
at,
would
be
the
Birdseye
property.
The
meek
on
building
at
sixty
access
highway
discussions
with
the
hospital
about
is
there
property
of
the
hospital
loans
that
we
could
be
up
close
to
the
roundabout,
maybe
building
something
there.
C
The
National
Guard
building
on
York
Street,
the
pines
health
building,
they're
part
of
the
hospital's
new
wing
that
they're
going
to
be
building
would
accommodate
Pines
up
there.
So
you
have
all
pines
and
carry
in
the
same
facility
which
would
open
up
the
pines
health
building
as
a
possible
spot.
So
we've
we
have
that
property
we're
looking
at.
There
was
some
question
of.
Is
there
property
available
in
their
public
works
somewhere
between
the
Public
Works
building
the
rec
building
or
the
airport
somewhere
on
there?
Is
there
grown
groan,
ground
or
a
building?
C
And
with
recent
things
happening
around
the
RSU
and
not
knowing,
what's
for
sure,
going
to
happen
with
the
new
school
that
brought
the
Learning
Center
back
onto
the
table,
was
a
potential
location
to
build
or
if
we
were
to
add
on
to
the
Learning
Center.
And
the
way
is
that
a
piece
of
ground
to
look
out
you're
shaking.
C
Maybe
gets
back
somewhere
else,
I
know
the
indication
from
the
arc.
Ar
s
you,
the
architects,
is
that
the
Learning
Center
is
not
an
option
with
all
the
safety
facility
because
of
how
far
they
are
down
the
road.
With
the
new
school
lot
of
the
new
schools
that
get
built,
we
retain
t
Park
and
can
build
any
public
facilities
facility.
There
are
the
Burrow
Center.
Does
that
make
sense?
So
again
it's
because
the
new
school
it's
just
been
brought
back
over
the
table
for
consideration.
C
There's
a
lot
of
work
and
it's
I'm
not
just
doing
I,
know
that
Gary
and
Mike
and
chief
CeCe
Penny's
been
involved
in
Kim's,
been
involved
and
we're
gathering
information
where
we
can
we're
trying
not
to
utilize
the
consultant
very
much
yet
once
we
drill
down
and
get
the
you
know,
the
top
three
properties
and
maybe
the
top
two
options.
The
first
of
our
facilities,
then
we'll
get
the
consultant
more
onboard
with
looking
that
dollar
and
figures.
C
We're
hoping
as
we
go
through
this
some
of
these
options.
There
were
subsets
of
options,
which
is
kind
of
naturally
thing
off
the
table,
as
is
these
aren't
going
to
work,
but
May
9th
we'll
have
our
next
meeting
with
the
Citizens
Advisory
Committee
to
go
through
what
we've
put
together
again
at
a
high
level
to
hopefully
start
to
we'll
all
this
down.
B
The
thing
with
remodeling
I
was
talking
to
my
brother,
he's
in
construction
and
says:
what's
your
remodel
when
you're
under
those
new
cones,
since
we
had
a
$60,000
job
to
do
something
plus
two
hundred
thousand
to
to
fix
everything
to
like
to
put
a
new
roof
on
something.
But
now
we
got
to
put
new
steel
and
do
this
so
that
you
can
insulate
you
have
to
wait
and
that
remodeling
stuff
gets
expensive.
You.
G
G
G
Was
done
prior
when
you
look
at
the
meat
con
buildin,
you
just
look
at
the
wiring
and
the
equipment
that
they
used
to
have
in
there
that
used
to
run
all
the
different.
What
a
great
manufacturing
building,
because
the
wiring
is
right
there.
These
are
all
like
which
I
don't
know
how
much
of
a
waste
apart
needs.
Wiring.
G
Right
so
I
look
at
weeks
and
strengthen
its
strengths
and
it's
just
too
bad.
You
get
a
private
sector
person
up
there
on
the
Birdseye
facility
and
use
the
gas
over
the
water
too
bad.
You
couldn't
get
a
private
manufacturer,
the
mekong
building
because
of
the
wiring.
These
are
things
we
can
give
people
I'll
caution
it
in
yet
crossing
us
any
money.
C
B
D
B
C
C
E
B
B
C
B
C
B
G
E
C
B
E
C
D
C
Nice,
the
nice
thing
about
the
dollars
is
that
usually,
when
you
get
federal
dollars,
you
can't
you
can't
go
to
this
federal
agency
and
get
money
there
and
then
go
to
this
agency
and
get
money
there
and
go
over
this
agency,
get
money
there
and
say
well
we're
gonna!
Well,
if
the
city
has
to
match
20%
of
the
total
project.
Well,
hey
that's
about
20%
that
we
got
from
that
federal
agency.
So
we're
gonna
say
that's
the
city's
20
percent!
You
can't
do
that.
C
C
G
G
E
G
G
C
D
F
F
I
At
this
moment
they
asked
them
to
negotiate
with
other,
so
any
different
changes
that
come
about
this
now
has
to
be
approved
by
the
Board
of
Education,
and
we
all
know
how
quickly
they
move
along
and
any
changes
that
we
know
any
other
changes
to
the
park.
Potentially
a
Learning
Center,
don't
forget:
National
Park
Service's
go
there
hands
of
that,
so
they
would
have
to
reconvey
reconvey
property
they're
liking,
yellowbook
appraisal
it
all
that
stuff.
So
that's
you
know.
I
We
all
know
that
that's
an
8
to
12
month
process
to
begin
with
right
there,
so,
hopefully
Wednesday
we
will
have
some
more
information
and
the
minute
and
I
get
the
entry
Genisys.
The
information
will
make
sure
that
you
guys
you
know,
but
at
this
moment
right
now
it
looks
like
it's
on
the
back
burner.
I
E
I
D
C
It
I
guess
at
this
point,
so
the
council's,
where
we
we've
barricaded
the
road
and
it's
it's
anywhere
from
1,800
feet
to
a
half-mile
along
the
River
Road,
depending
on
which
unit
of
measurement
we
want
to
use
yeah
using
using
the
computer.
It's
about
a
half
mile
using
wrong
foot,
it's
about
800
feet,
but,
as
you
travel
north
along
the
River
Road,
you
get
out
of
this
initial
cluster
of
houses
and
it
starts
to
make
a
bend
and
that's
about
where
the
barricade
sits
and
from
there.
C
B
C
From
when
we
were
out
Sunday
afternoon,
looking
at
it
and
off
of
the
shoulder
there's
places
now
where
the
cracks
have
opened
up
on
the
hill
itself
and
there's
several
places
along
the
road
along
that
whole
stretch
where
you
can
see
new
cracks
forming
in
the
asphalt
as
it's
it's
pulling
away
right
now,
it
appears
most
of
most
of
the
length
of
the
road.
It's
it's
primarily
on
the
west
side,
the
west
half
of
the
road
as
we
as
we
go
along
there.
C
C
We're
not
sure
why
it
chose
this
year
of
any
to
start
doing
this,
but
it
just
appears
that
the
ground
is
overly
saturated
and
the
the
flooding
itself
doesn't
appear
to
be
eroding
into
the
banks,
but
because
of
how
the
thaws
occurred
or
the
frost
came
out
and
the
storm.
The
rains
that
have
been
here,
the
ground
is
is
just
sock
full
of
moisture
and
the
road
is
starting
to
fail.
C
E
C
So
we
try
I
know
that
Officer
Kevin,
st.
Peter
I
was
gonna,
say
Pelletier,
but
officer
st.
Peter's
been
in
those
homes
talking
with
those
individuals
quite
a
bit.
It
may
come
that
we
may
have
to
bring
some,
maybe
some
material
in
to
help
them
get
to
their
driveways
depending
on
how
much
occurs
there
and
we'll
just
watch
it
we'll
monitor
it,
but
with
the
next
five
days,
showing
rain
in
the
forecast
and
low
temperatures,
it's
just
going
to
continue
to
get
in
there,
especially
with
the
cracks
widening.
C
B
A
Did
so
not
only
at
the
barricades,
do
we
have
it,
but
that
gets
you
in
a
long
ways.
So
we've
made
up
some
signs
this
morning.
We
install
them
this
afternoon.
It
says
road
closed
through
traffic
and
we
have
them
at
both
intersections
in
the
fort
room
24
by
by
30,
and
they
are
a
permanent,
install
and
told
because
this
is
gonna
be
a
long
time
case.
This
isn't
this
won't
be
fixed
this
over
years.
A
A
No
area
that
was
affected
was
probably
1/5
or
less
than
this,
and
not
that
it
has
anything
to
do
with
it,
but
there
they
had
plenty
of
room
to
move
the
road
over.
They
had
to
purchase
a
little
bit
of
land
from
to
the
owners.
They
moved
one
utility
pole
and
they
what
call
they
called
it
armored
the
lower
portion
of
the
embankment-
and
that
was
a
$750,000
job
and
that's
just
a
small
area
compared
to
what
this
is.
So
this
will
be
a
very
large
fix
if
the
road
goes
bad.
A
A
I
pass
with
my
pickup
and
I
hold
my
breath,
because
you
just
don't
know
what
it's
gonna
slip.
It
didn't
look
bad
when
there
was
only
a
four
inch
5
inch
gap
in
one
that
we
were
out
there.
That
might
have
been
at
the
highest
point.
It
was
eight
inches
of
separation,
but
the
gap
was
only
five
inches.
Now
I
can
tell
you
even
this
afternoon
when
you
were
out
there
mark,
there's
places
that
are
over
two
feet
where
it's
lit,
and
that
was
that.
A
A
But
just
because
you
look
at
it
if
you're
looking
to
the
north,
it
looks
like
only
one
half
throw
let
go
that
doesn't
mean
that
once
that
moves
the
other
half
doesn't
slide
with
it,
and
when
that
happens,
there
will
be
no
access
to
them
and
people
will
have
to
relocate
I'm
afraid.
We
can't
follow
the
road.
The
mail
can't
get
up
through
there.
A
Trucks,
and
once
this
can
get
through
there,
the
bus
picks
up
I,
think
it's
Scott's
house
yeah.
So
the
bus
can't
get
through
the
barricades
that
I
have
there.
If
I
move
the
barricades
further
up
all
the
traffic
and
we
turn
it
in
there,
they
are.
How
would
you
like
to
have
headlights
turning
all
night
long
and
you're
going
are
trying
to
eat?
You
know
so.
A
I
know
we
cannot
take
a
loader
truck
in
there,
go
for
some
gravel,
take
that
guy's
lawn
and
make
it
into
a
row
for
him
to
get
out.
So
we're
gonna
have
to
watch
that
real
close
and
if
it
would
happen
to
dry
out
and
the
easterly
side
doesn't
move
I
still
wouldn't
let
traffic
through
there
but
I'd
be
a
public
wall
button
that
gentleman
that
lives
right
there.
This
there's
at
least
tool
that
I
have
real
big
leaf
artwork
as
long
as
it
that
doesn't
slide,
you
might
be
okay,.
J
B
A
D
A
C
D
E
A
A
D
B
D
G
J
J
G
C
A
D
A
G
C
Again,
it's
it's
not
necessarily
there
an
erosion
problem
with
it's,
not
that
the
ground
is
being
carved
out
by
the
river.
It's
whatever
has
happened
to
the
east.
The
moisture
has
come
in
to
the
ground,
and
it's
permeated
that
such
that
just
the
unstable
line
slope
on
the
other
side
is
just
giving
away.