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D
C
E
F
B
A
I'm,
just
gonna
throw
out
a
number
just
so
people
can
think
about
it,
because
this
all
came
on
to
us
thousand
dollars.
There's
a
trial
balloon
for
the
council
to
the
sign.
I
just
asked
it.
We
all
think
about
it
until
we
get
to
eight
and
16
and
okay
hang
tight,
don't
anybody
else
from
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak.
John.
H
The
business
has
been
here
for
I
want
to
I,
want
to
I
believe
he
said
somewhere
in
the
range
of
90
years.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
right,
my
memory
is
horrible,
so
it
could
have
been
nine
years.
I'm,
not
sure
the
fact
that
matter
is
is
that's
a
tax
base
that
we're
going
to
be
losing
from
this
town.
That's
going
to
be
quite
substantial
and
I'd
like
to
know
what,
if
or
if
the
council
has
been
able
to
do
to
work
with
John
on
this.
A
H
A
A
A
A
A
A
E
E
A
E
Counselors
we
introduced
this
ordinance
back
in
October
tonight
is
the
required
public
hearing
in
order
to
you
in
order
for
you
to
consider
adopting
it
into
the
personnel
policy.
The
city
charter
requires
any
personnel
policy
changes
to
be
adopted
by
ordinance
and
thus
we're
going
through
this
public
hearing
process
and
notification
process.
The
amendments
has
indicated
in
the
title
are
pertaining
to
the
two
items.
There
are
catastrophic
leave
program.
J
E
Donate
your
time
we're
looking
at
the
value
of
the
time
based
on,
if
you
were
basically
if
you're
at
some,
there
are
some
employees
that
are
able
to
bank
sick
time
and
be
compensated
for
it.
So
if
we're
going
please
in
that
situation,
the
amount
of
sick
leave
that
they
can
donate
to
the
pool
is
also
predicated
upon
the
amount
of
sick
time.
They'd
be
compensated
for.
E
If
an
employee
currently
has
Bank
time,
but
would
not
be
compensated
for
it
in
the
future,
they
could
still
don't
to
that
pool
the
employees
that
want
to
tie
in
or
tap
into
it.
It
would
all
be
anonymous
and
an
employee
would
not
be
able
to
get
their
sick
leave
time
back
out
of
the
pool.
Once
it's
been
donated
the
as
far
as
the
whistleblower
program,
that's
not
an
assay
program.
E
Basically,
the
this
would
outline
that
there's
a
process
that
employees
can
go
through
to
raise
concerns
about
the
potential
violation
of
laws
that
they
a
supervisor
may
ask
them
to
do
or
if
there's
an
issue
of
them
being
put
at
risk
and
raising
concerns
about
it.
This
basically
follows
the
state
law
that
they
have
a
process
they
can
go
through.
E
It
also
outlines
their
rights
as
an
employee
under
the
state
of
Maine,
whistleblower,
Act,
and
so
we're
where
we've
drafted
this
in
accordance
with
all
of
those
laws,
so
we
can
make
it
very
clear
to
the
employees.
The
intent
is
that
once
the
council
adopts
this,
we
will
have
training.
Later
this
month.
The
Maine
Human
Rights
Commission,
has
indicated
must
be
mandatory
training
that
all
employees
come
and
receive
this
information
and
be
made
aware
of
their
rights
under
this
law
and
the
policy.
A
K
Evening,
I'm
Jane
Ferrand
city,
employee
for
12
years
I
was
unable
to
attend
the
Personnel
Committee
meeting
that
was
held
October
9th
as
I
was
attending
election
training
in
Augusta
and
I
believe
that
it
was
discussed
that
night.
This
program,
I,
am
speaking
this
evening
to
voice
my
support
for
the
city.
Having
a
catastrophic
leave
program,
the
catastrophic
leave
program
was
established
as
far
as
I
can
determine
December
8
2008.
When
the
council
adopted
a
personnel
policy
according
to
HR,
the
catastrophic
leave
program
has
never
been
used.
K
No
one
has
donated
any
sick
time,
and
so
there
isn't
any
value
there.
One
of
the
reasons
that
this
hasn't
been
used
might
be
that
54
out
of
the
69
eligible
employees,
have
purchased
on
their
own
income
protection
plan
IPP,
which
is
short-term
disability
insurance.
This
income
protection
plan
can
cover
an
employee
and
an
employee
only
up
to
a
year.
Additionally,
the
city
allows
employees
to
earn
eight
hours
of
sick
leave
a
month
or
12
days
a
year
again,
I'm
here
supporting
the
city
of
caribou
having
a
catastrophic
leave
program.
K
I'm,
not
a
union
employee,
so
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
Union
and
other
non-union
employees
might
be
treated
differently
when
it
comes
to
the
catastrophic
leave
program
according
to
age,
are
the
employees
hired
after
January
1st
2014
earned
sick
leave,
but
that
stiff
leaf
has
no
value
to
the
employee?
Other
has
no
value
other
than
to
the
employee
and
there
isn't
any
thing
to
donate
to
the
catastrophic
leave
program.
K
Then
there
are
the
employees
such
as
myself,
those
hired
before
January
1st
2014
I
earned
sick
time
and
will
be
paid
out
when
I
retire
for
the
number
of
hours.
In
my
sick
day,
sick
bank,
as
of
the
date
of
December
31st,
2014
plus
I,
have
additional
hours
in
my
sick
bank
that
I
will
not
be
paid
for,
and
I
am
told.
I
cannot
donate
them
because
they
have
no
value.
Except
to
me
if
I
was
to
get
sick.
K
One
of
the
reasons,
I'm
speaking
for
the
catastrophic
leave
program,
is
that
it
can
be
used
in
a
time
of
need
for
an
employee
who
has
a
sick
family
member,
such
as
a
spouse
with
cancer
that
needs
treatment
in
Bangor
Portland,
even
Boston.
They
need
their
spouse
present
as
they
go
through
treatment,
and
if
that
employee
does
not
have
enough
sick
time
in
their
bank,
they
could
be
eligible
to
use
sick
leave
donated
to
the
catastrophic
leave
program.
K
Another
example
would
be
a
premature
baby
or
a
sick
child,
and
the
parent
is
a
city
employee
who
needs
to
be
there
and
doesn't
have
enough
sick
time
in
their
bank.
Income
protection
doesn't
work
in
the
case
of
a
sick,
family
member,
but
a
catastrophic
leave
program
that
is
family-friendly,
easy
to
understand
and
use
could
help
employees
with
sick
family
members.
These
are
just
two
examples
that
demonstrate
the
benefits
of
having
a
workable,
catastrophic
leave
program,
rather
than
making
it
more
unlikely
that
anyone
will
donate
or
even
be
able
to
donate.
K
K
K
I
I
think
that
it
thinks
that
it's
making
it
HR
told
me
that
people
who
were
hired
after
that
date
that
I
gave
you
cannot
donate
their
leaf.
It's
different
than
what
mr.
marker
just
said.
So
there's
a
difference.
Interpretation,
but
HR
is
the
first
person
you
go
through
for
the
catastrophic,
catastrophic
believe
program.
The
city
manager
is
who
you
appeal
their
decision
to
his
decision
to
I.
Just
think
I,
don't
see
why.
K
E
E
So,
if
you've
been
here
10
years,
you'd
be
able
to,
in
a
sense
cash
in
a
certain
number
of
sick
hours,
when
you
leave
and
you're
able
to
donate
that
horse,
that
you'd
be
cashing
out,
but
we
recognize
that,
even
though
an
employees
hired
after
January
1st
2014
won't
be
able
to
catch
anything
out,
this
one
sentence
does
allow
them
to
donate
time.
On
that
same
basis
that
we're
saying,
if
you've
got
10
years,
even
though
you
were
hired
after
January
2014,
we
look
at
that
same
table.
C
C
K
K
E
K
K
E
A
I
E
A
C
J
E
A
E
E
When
the
time
comes,
and
so
we
would
recommend
that,
for
these
eight
mobile
homes,
that
the
council
grant
a
waiver
of
foreclosure
and
then
we
will
notify
the
county
of
that
and
not
take
ownership
of
these
Joan
was
correct
or
sorry.
Customer
Theriot
is
correct.
The
the
taxes
would
stay
in
place.
There
still
is
obligation
to
pay
them,
or
just
not
foreclosing
on
that
right
now,.
E
For
the
past
few
years,
we've
utilized
Oakleaf
systems,
inc
and
bob
sours.
It's
a
local
business
here
in
Caribou
they
are
available
basically
every
day
except
holidays
and
have
been
very
responsive
not
only
to
City
Hall
but
to
other
departments
for
Network
issues.
They've
helped
us
more
recently
with
phone
issues.
Internet
providing
equipment
in.
C
E
Just
recently,
we
were
hearing
complaints
about
my
being
able
to
hear
the
speakers
in
this
room,
and
so
they
were
able
to
help
us
get
speakers
and
microphones
set
up
to
be
able
to
pipe
this
seven
better
into
the
back
of
the
room.
Very
reasonable
cost
he's
able
to
bulk
purchase
things
for
us,
which
is
also
very
helpful,
and
this
contract
is
an
annual
contract.
It's
it
does
not
have
any
automatic
renewal
provision
in
it,
and
so
we
brought
this
to
you
last
year.
We
bring
it
to
you
again.
E
Mr.
sours
was
willing
to
reduce
all
of
his
pricing
this
year,
recognizing
the
council's
concern
with
a
budget
and
so
essentially
cut
close
to
$3,000
out
of
his
of
his
contract
and
was
willing
to
take
on
some
of
the
the
cost
of
something
fo
virus
software
that
that
we
were
previously
paying
for
and
so
we'd
recommend
that
the
Council
authorized
me
to
execute
this
contract
for
another
year.
I
know
one
of
the
questions
that
I've
been
asked
is.
E
How
often
do
we
put
this
out
to
bid
we've
not
put
a
formal
bid
out
advertised
bid
out
for
a
couple
of
years,
and
we
try
to
do
these
services
about
every
three
years,
and
so
next
year
will
be
the
time
since
I've
been
here
to
do
that
we
were
contacted
by
another
IT
company
earlier
this
year.
Who
approached
us
and
said:
can
we
give
you
a
bid-
and
we
said-
certainly
we
just
didn't
hear
back
from
them,
so
we're
not
opposed
to
the
competition
and
providing
services
for
for
better
cost.
E
A
A
E
E
That's,
not
counting
the
one-off
phone
calls
here
and
there
in
the
two
minutes
that
he
might
spend
fixing
something
for
us
that
he's
not
keeping
track
of,
but
he
is
available
basically
24/7
for
us,
even
though
the
contract
does
spell
out
specific
hours
that
he's
going
to
be
available,
but
I
know
he's
answered
the
phone
outside
of
those
hours.
For
me
on
multiple
occasions,.
A
E
E
So,
for
instance,
we
know
that
Windows
7
is
not
going
to
be
taken
care
of
anymore
by
Microsoft,
and
so
he
helps
us
get
all
of
our
computers
transitioned
over
to
the
latest.
Microsoft
software.
That's
going
to
be
handled
and
supported
and
monitors
the
the
software
that
we're
loading
on
the
machines,
making
sure
that
we
have
capacity
for
those
and
even
helping
us
find
other
options.
As
far
as
the
equipment
goes,
he
helps
us
find
some
of
the
better
deals
on
equipment
from
what
we
might
say
we
need.
E
E
So
the
council
asked
us
to
put
an
RFQ
out,
that's
a
request
for
qualifications
advertisement
and
we
advertise
that
in
the
papers.
We
also
sent
that
out
to
the
American
Institute
of
Architects,
asking
them
to
send
it
out
to
any
members
that
they
knew
of
that
we're
in
Maine
or
elsewhere,
and
we
asked
them
to
send
us
their
basically
their
resumes.
What
kind
of
familiarity
they
have
with
these
types
of
projects,
and
we
reviewed
those
and
based
on
the
information,
was
provided.
E
We,
a
selection
committee
selected
three
that
they
wanted
to
have
come
in
and
make
more
formal
presentation
and
give
us
a
better
idea
of
what
their
expertise
were
and
and
really
what
they
thought.
The
project
was
going
to
entail
how
they
were
going
to
go
about
it,
how
they
were
going
to
engage
the
public
and
with
there
were
any
things
that
were
just
lessons
learned
that
we
need
to
be
mindful
of
as
we
go
through
this
process.
The
the
selection
committee.
E
Of
the
council
building
committee,
and
so
that
included
councillor
Terry,
ol,
Martin,
Cody
and
crew
Patrick,
were
least
notified
of
this
information.
We
they
were
sent
the
information
we
also
included,
or
our
police
chief
mark
Gahagan,
who
was
a
sergeant,
our
building
official,
our
code
enforcement
officer
myself,
and
we
also
included
Bruce
Hegel
Steen,
who
was
involved
with
the
Citizens
Advisory
Committee
process,
and
he
has
also
been
involved
with
the
RSU
building
project.
E
So
he
has
a
good
understanding
of
kind
of
what
happens
with
all
of
these
big
dollar
projects
and
what
what
kind
of
processes
we
might
be.
Looking
at.
At
the
end
of
the
the
interview
process
with
the
three
firms,
the
selection
committee
that
participated
recommended
that
we
move
forward
or
that
the
council
move
forward.
Looking
at
artifacts
they're,
a
company
based
out
of
Bangor
one
of
their
team
members,
has
built
hundreds
of
police
stations
and
knows
the
ins
and
outs
of
the
current
codes.
E
The
current
regulations
and
the
indication
was
that
they
could
be
on
the
ground,
November
18th.
If
we
wanted
to
move
that
quickly,
I
I
told
them
well
that
we
need
to
bring
it
to
the
council
and
get
their
input
discussions
and
that
it
probably
wouldn't
be
November
18th.
But
I
wanted
to
just
share
this
information
with
the
council.
So
you.
C
E
E
A
A
A
B
B
C
J
Past
councils,
and
recently
also
we've
made
it
a
policy
to
not
donate
to
charitable
organizations,
and
things
like
this
only
because
it
puts
it,
it
puts
it
out
there
as
a
taxpayer,
expense,
whether
how
if
it's
a
little
bit
or
a
lot,
and
because
it
opens
up
the
possibility
that
there
will
be
a
lot
of
others,
and
so
we
made
it
a
policy
and
mostly
I,
think
it
was
an
of
the
older
and
older
council
than
what
we
have
right.
Now
that
made
it
that
policy.
J
It
isn't
that
we
don't
want
to
help
you
it's
just
that.
We
don't
think
that
or
we
didn't
at
the
time,
think
that
the
the
burden
should
be
put
on
the
taxpayers
for
a
charity
or
an
organization
or
an
event
that
they
maybe
wouldn't
support
or
couldn't
afford
or
whatever.
So
we
always
said
you
know,
there's
GoFundMe
pages
that
you
can
set
up.
J
There's
people
that
here
in
town
or
whatever
that
know
about
it
once
you
put
it
out
there
that
they
could
donate
personally
to
you
business,
they
can
do
donate
that,
but
I
still
follow
that
policy.
That
I,
just
don't
think
that
this
is
something
that's
it
that
the
city
should
be
doing,
because
there
will
be
no
end
after
this
I
wish
you
the
best
of
luck
but
personally
and
I
I
would
not
vote.
F
B
A
I
E
A
A
E
C
E
E
As
far
as
the
personnel
related
changes
currently
we're
not
showing
a
cost-of-living
increase
for
the
non-union
employees,
we
do
have
to
look
at
the
state
minimum
wage
increase
from
$11
or
$12,
which
affects
our
budget
by
an
additional
$13,000,
the
we're
still
waiting
for
the
Public
Works
Union
in
the
police
officers
union
to
finish
their
negotiations.
So
we're
not
sure
how
that
is
going
to
fully
play
out
in
the
budget.
E
The
fire
union
did
complete
their
negotiations
and
the
council
agreed
to
a
1%
increase
under
their
agreement,
which
adds
a
little
over
eight
thousand
dollars
to
the
budget.
The
bigger
ticket
items
are
the
the
health
insurance
increase
that
we're
looking
at
for
next
year,
we
were
notified
that
there
would
be
a
six
point:
seven
six
percent
increase
to
all
of
our
health
insurance
and
we've
already
started
looking
at
for
next
year
for
next
budget,
the
2021
budget,
some
options
to
reduce
that
the
without
drastically
impacting
the
employees.
E
So
will
we
need
to
have
some
more
discussions
about
that
in
the
2021
budget
process,
workers
compensation
went
up
by
24%
and
so
that
added
$50,000
to
the
budget.
We
have
one
new
position.
That's
currently
in
the
budget,
which
is
a
part-time
position
in
the
tax
assessing
office,
recall
that
our
tax
assessor
has
been
going
getting
a
lot
of
training
and
expertise
so
that
we
can
do
our
quarterly
reviews
of
the
properties
and
evaluations
in-house.
What
mr.
E
C
E
Structural
supports
I
would
also
say
that
there's
there
is
a
possibility
that,
because
of
the
cost
of
those
improvements,
other
building
codes
may
kick
in
which
may
require
additional
upgrades
to
that
building.
We'll
have
to
look
at
that
as
we
get
closer
to
that
project.
You
have
a
hundred
and
sixty
four
thousand
dollars
with
regards
to
the
design
of
a
new
police
station.
E
That
164,000
pertains
to
the
RFQ,
as
was
mentioned
earlier,
and
is
the
amount
basically
that
we
would
anticipate
being
spent
if
the
council
moves
forward
with
artifacts
to
get
us
to
an
election
point,
any
cost
beyond
that
which
we
know
there
will
be
some
in
building
a
new
police
station.
We've
become
part
of
a
bond
process.
If
the.
E
If
the
citizens
approve
that
bond,
we
also
have
the
reconstruction
of
the
teak
part
going
on,
which
will
include
one
hundred
and
twenty
six
thousand
dollars
toward
a
splash
pad,
which
we've
already
had
donated
to
us.
That
sum
of
money,
so
that,
what's
more
of
the
it's
already
there
we're
just
paying
for
it,
but
there
will
be
some
additional
improvements
needed
at
around
the
splash
pad
and
so
altogether.
E
You're
looking
about
one
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
that
project
next
year
for
the
river
road,
we're
currently
showing
a
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
dollar
negative
balance
in
that
project.
That's
mainly
due
to
us,
anticipating
that
we
would
have
gone
out
for
a
bond
and
have
those
funds
rolled
into
a
general
obligation
bond.
We're
now
looking
at
doing
the
work
in-house
looking
to
save
money
and
utilizing
more
public
works,
time
and
and
resources
to
to
fix
that,
we
have
just
a
quick
note.
E
Also,
we
anticipate
resurfacing
the
parking
lots
in
the
or
some
of
the
parking
lots
in
the
downtown
area,
and
so
the
capital
project
or
the
capital
plan
right
now
proposes
adding
$60,000
toward
the
parking
lot
resurfacing.
That
project
is
probably
going
to
be
done
over
a
3-year
process
and
likely
need
additional
funds
into
their
over
the.
C
E
Three
years
we
still
have
financial
obligations
for
the
fire
engine
and
those
payments
are
roughly
one
hundred
and
seventeen
thousand
dollars,
and
our
last
payment
is
scheduled
for
2021,
which
leads
to
the
next
financial
obligation
we're
dealing
with,
which
is
the
biomass
boiler
system.
We
are
in.
The
payment
in
2019
was
106
thousand
dollars
the
payment
system
escalates
each
year,
and
so
next
year
it's
gonna
be
slightly
higher
and
we,
the
capital
plan
right
now.
What
we're?
E
What
we're
hoping
to
do
is
roll
the
fire
engine
payment
once
that's
done
into
the
cost
of
the
biomass
boiler
system.
So
we
can
pay
down
that
earlier
by
about
two
years,
it'll
save
us
about
a
thousand
dollars
in
interest.
If
we,
if
we
do
that,
so
the
overall
budget
includes
expenses
of
a
little
over
11
million
dollars,
which
is
a
7.3
5
percent
increase
from
the
modified
budget
of
2019
when
I
say
modified.
E
What
I
mean
is
that
when
we
were
starting
to
go
through
the
mill
rate
process
in
June
and
July
this
last
year,
the
council
asked
that
additional
$338,000
be
pulled
out
of
the
budget,
and
so
that
7.35
is
it's
from
that
budget
after
we
took
all
those
other
things
out
halfway
through
the
year.
The
overall,
the
city's
operation
and
capital
expenses
are
three
point:
nine
two
percent
more
than
the
original
expense
budget
of
2019
and,
as
I
said,
seven
point
almost
seven
and
a
half
percent
increase
from
the
2019
budget.
E
E
E
You
can
see
that
2018
we
were
under
$800,000
in
2019,
again
with
the
modified
budget.
We
took
a
bunch
of
those
capital
projects
out
in
order
to
get
the
mill
rate
where
the
council
wanted.
We
came
down
about
750
thousand
dollars
for
capital
projects
and
equipment,
and
the
current
draft
budget,
or
looking
at
over
1
million
dollars
in
capital
projects
and
equipment
needs.
E
This
budget
does
anticipate.
You
can
see,
there's
a
big
blue
portion
of
the
column
in
2020,
that
is,
that
hundred
and
sixty
four
thousand
dollars
for
the
police
study,
and
this
budget
is
proposing
that
where
that
is
a
one-time
project
that
we
do
look
at
potential
use
of
one-time
funds
that
are
coming
to
us
from
the
Aroostook
waste
solutions
will
be
receiving
about
three
hundred
forty
thousand
dollars
this
year.
From
that
I
know
that
the
council.
E
It
helps
to
be
able
to
not
tap
into
any
of
that,
but
if
we
don't
there's
another
100
and
roughly
hundred
and
sixty
four
thousand
dollars
of
expense
and
I,
admittedly
we're
getting
very
close
we've
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
the
department
heads
have
trimmed
and
trimmed
where
they
can.
Unfortunately,
we
have
major
capital
needs
coming
up.
E
We
have
insurance
costs
that
are
going
up
and
we're
definitely
have
to
take
a
hard
look
at
things,
but
by
utilizing
some
of
those
one-time
funds
for
that
one-time
project
that'll
definitely
ease
the
burden
and
going
into
next
year,
we've
looked
at
the
projected
revenues
for
2020.
Currently,
this
budget
is
a
balanced
budget.
If
we
utilize
those
one-time
funds,
we
are
going
to
be
receiving
additional
revenue
from
the
state
from
our
revenue
sharing,
which
was
adopted
by
the
legislature
last
year.
E
E
A
A
A
A
E
But
I
I
should
also
clarify.
This
does
not
anticipate
keeping
the
mill
rate
the
same,
even
with
the
revenue
that
we
have
and
these
expenses.
This
again
we
have
to
wait
till
the
revenues
are
little
bit
closer
into
June
or
July,
but
right
now
this
still
anticipates
that
we'd
be
looking
at
almost
a
1.2
mil
increase.
A
E
The
council
asked
her
in
the
last
meeting
to
have
this
put
on
the
agenda
for
discussion
and
last
year
we
we
also
talked
about
it.
The
process
that
we
have
right
now
as
far
as
the
snow
removal
around
fire
hydrants
is
that
the
Public
Works
Department
they
first
will
focus
on
getting
the
roads
open
and
the
sidewalks
around
the
school
areas
was
a
big
focus
and
they
have
the
equipment
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
when
there's
a
wall
in
the
storms
they
will
come
down
and
and
start
doing,
cleanup
processes
and
fire.
E
Hydrants
are
part
of
that
cleanup
process
essentially
there's
been
concerned.
That
is
it
well,
that's
a
concern,
but
the
question
of
if
the
city
is
not
able
to
do
that
because
we're
out
plowing
the
snow
and
doing
everything
else,
can
the
Cariboo
utilities
district
take
the
responsibility
for
cleaning
out
those
hydrants
is
essentially
because
they
are
their
hydrants.
E
We
are
paying
a
hydrant
rental
fee
to
them
and
what
would
happen
if
we
don't
do
any
of
the
cleaning
of
the
hydrants
out,
and
we
simply
say
to
this
aud
since
we're
paying
you
that
lease
money,
you
need
to
make
sure
that
those
hydrants
are
clean.
Dave.
Is
that,
basically,
where
we're
at
as
far
as
our
how
we
approached
cleaning
the
hydrants
so.
L
L
E
There's
concern
also
from
their
side
about
having
the
staff
that
they
need
and
to
be
able
to
get
things
done
on
their
side
in
the
wintertime
and
the
indication
has
been
that
if,
if
there's
a
real
pickle
and
we
need
some
of
their
help,
they're
willing
to
come
and
do
that,
but
they
it
was
through
a
almost
a
gentlemen's
agreement.
If
you
will
many
many
years
ago
that
the
city
of
caribou
took
on
the
responsibility
of
cleaning
out
the
hydrants,
there's
nothing
in
writing
to
that
effect.
E
F
D
F
D
G
J
Couple
of
things
I
agree:
they
belong
to
the
CD.
They
should
be
maintained
by
the
CEO
d.
There's
one
element
here,
though,
however-
and
this
has
been
a
gentleman's
agreement
for
years
and
years
and
years-
and
it's
worked
because
you've
had
the
person
the
personnel
to
do
it.
What
happens
if
this
gentleman's
agreement
keeps
on
going
and
highway?
J
Says
yeah
when
I
get
a
minute,
I'll
go
plow,
that
out
and
in
the
meantime,
the
hydrant
bills
in,
and
you
can't
get
to
it
and
there's
a
fire
who's
gonna
be
responsible
for
not
being
able
to
get
to
that
hydrant.
You
need
this
still
spelled
out
and
I
think
it
should
be.
Ceo
D
owns
those
hydrants.
We
pay
for
the
the
rental
on
those
hydrants
I
think
they
should
maintain
them
and
it
should
be
spelled
out
very
clearly
so
that
there's
no
assumed
liability
anywhere
else.
If
something
like
that
should
happen,
it's
just.
E
A
A
A
A
A
F
J
I
just
like
to
run
something
by
the
council
back
this
summer,
when
I
went
to
the
ribbon-cutting
ceremony
for
Beauregard
I
met
Lenise
serwe,
who
is
the
executive
director
of
the
central
Lucic
Area
Chamber
of
Commerce,
and
she
asked
me
at
the
time
why
caribou
was
not
participating
in
that
in
the
chamber
and
I
explained
to
her
that
we
have
a
chamber.
The
director
was
very
inefficient,
they
disbanded
and
we
gave
it
a
somewhat
of
a
try
in
Presque
Isle
and
that
didn't
work
out
either.
J
So
we
didn't
join
and
she
said
that
she
would
like
to
come
to
the
council
to
at
least
make
a
presentation
that
a
lot
of
changes
has
have
been
made
and
she
would
like
to
at
least
talk
about
the
changes
that
have
been
made
and
what
they
have
to
offer
to
see.
If
caribou
would
like
to
join,
reconsider
or
whatever
so
I
told
her.
That
I
would
you
know
I
want
I'd
like
to
see
her
minutes
and
stuff,
and
she
said
well,
I'll
email
them
to
you
and
I
said.
No.
A
I
I'd
like
to
recognize
a
member
do
the
results
of
the
election
we
had
here
last
week.
The
council
is
retaining
one
incumbent
and
gaining
a
new
member.
Due
to
these
developments,
the
member
we
are
losing
is
councillor
Martin
back
in
the
fall
of
2012
I,
applied
for
Steve
Bucs
position
as
city
manager
and
was
interviewed
by
the
7
City
Council
members.
I
At
that
time,
during
the
interview,
councillor
Martin
had
some
kind
and
encouraging
words
for
me
regarding
my
effort
to
find
employment,
or
he
established
my
career
here
and
moved
back
to
my
hometown,
although
I
don't
remember
his
exact
words,
I'll
always
be
humbled.
He
took
the
time
in
that
interview
to
thank
me
for
trying
to
come
home
now
by
my
count.
Councillor
Martin
served
for
three-year
terms
on
the
council
for
a
total
of
12
years.
He
was
willing
to
serve
at
least
15
mr.
I
A
A
No
I'm
gonna
read
it
verbatim.
If
I
can
2017
Prescott
Presque
Isle
in
2015,
Presque
Isle
stated
started
a
city
ambulance
service.
The
objective
was
to
make
money
to
subsidize
the
cost
of
a
full-time
Fire
Department,
not
withstanding
the
ethics
of
making
money
from
public
service,
and
now,
with
the
pending
demise
of
northern
light,
Regional
911
ambulance
service,
the
City
Council
should
consider
the
pros
and
cons
of
a
regional
Fire
/
ambulance
service.
Although
the
regionalization
of
municipal
service
may
no
longer
be
a
local
priority,
it
is
time
it
is
not
time
to
be
complacent.
A
As
everyone
knows,
the
federal
deficit
last
year
was
most
one
trillion
dollars.
We
are
spending
our
way
into
a
debt
crisis
preparing
for
the
next
financial
crisis.
The
City
Council
long
term
view
should
include
using
cost-effective
regional
services.
The
City
Council
should
consider
three
actions
promote
a
tri
community
advisory
committee
consisting
of
managers
and
elected
officials
for
considering
the
regionalization
municipal
services
number
two.
It
should
revisit
its
union
contracts
and
remove
any
language
with
which
hinders
regionalization
and
number
three.
It
should
finally
develop
an
in-house
expertise
to
content
conduct
financial
analysis.
A
Stephen
Farnum,
Francesa
III,
yes,
I,
read
that
and
it
just
hit
me
so
close,
because
it's
so
true
to
my
beliefs
as
to
you
could
even
almost
call
this
the
start
of
a
zero
based
budgeting
way
of
looking
at
things
nobody's
saying
it's
regionalization
works,
but
we
got
to
start
looking
and
trying
to
see
what
we
can
do.
I
got
a
call
this
guy
and
she'll,
be
my
new
best
friend.
K
A
A
A
E
Due
to
the
their
nature,
we
are
as
far
as
the
LED
conversion
process
goes.
Real
term
is
finalized
documents
to
submit
to
Ameri
for
their
final
checklist
of
getting
it
under
the
LED
rate
structure,
we've
already
been
seeing
it
as
a
privately
owned
street
light
system
rate
structure,
but
to
have
the
LED
rate
structure
also
in
place
would
give
us
additional
discounts
and
I'd.
Make
note
of
that.
E
Also
in
the
budget
document
that
our
street
light
costs
may
actually
go
down
a
little
bit
in
the
budget,
depending
on
on
how
that
rate
structure
plays
out
the
fire.
A
structural
study
is
complete,
as
I
mentioned,
Sewell
has
provided
us
a
quote
for
the
services
to
design
the
structural
upgrades
that
it
would
be
necessary
for
that.
We've
already
told
them
that
we're
holding
off
on
that
project
until
next
fiscal
year.
What
do
we
know
what's
happening
with
with
the
budget?
The
bird's
eye
cleanup
is.
E
We
I
met
this
last
Tuesday
with
the
representatives
of
the
EPA
in
the
state
Department
of
Environmental
Quality,
to
revisit
the
brownfield
grant
application
and
get
that
turned
in
we've
noticed
for
the
next
city
council
meeting
a
public
hearing
for
the
public
to
come
in
and
review
that
application.
So
I
anticipate
spending
the
next
week
and
a
half
getting
all
that
put
together.
Based
on
the
comments,
the
feedback
we've
received
in
the
direction
from
the
the
feds.
E
M
E
The
cabin
craft
fair
was
successful
again
and
already
making
preparations
for
the
gingerbread
night
in
December
yeah
we'll
make
sure
to
get
you
all
the
updated
dates
and
times
for
for
what's
happening
in
the
or
for
the
rest
of
November
of
December
and
take
Park.
What's
the
latest
on
teeth,
Park
mr.
Markey,
the.
N
Latest
on
the
park
right
now
is
nine
inches
of
snow.
We're
pretty
much
we're
pretty
much
done
on
doing
any
more
work
there.
This
year,
they're
gonna
continue
working
on
the
building
to
get
that
completed,
they're
still
working
on
wiring
it
up
right
now,
so
they're
heating,
the
building
right
now
with
generator
and
silent
clothes
to
keep
it
hot
because
they
have
it
all
cheated.
It's
all
muddied
and
now
they're,
just
working
on
the
interior.
N
The
contractor
was
very
happy
that
we
weren't
using
it
at
all,
but
now
with,
as
you
just
mentioned,
the
gingerbread
night
that
brings
close
to
six
seven
hundred
people
in
the
building
that
extra
parking
lot
it's
gonna
be
is
going
to
be
nice
to
be
able
to
use.
So
we
cleaned
it
out
today
and
we'll
be
able
to
use
it
for
special
events
throughout
the
holiday
season
and
and
beyond.
So
we're
making
plans
for
for
next
year.
N
E
E
E
The
council
asked
her
in
the
last
meeting
for
some
tidbits
about
the
fire
station
roof,
and
so
we've
provided
the
information
over
the
last
few
years.
The
amount
of
money
that
we've
been
starting
to
put
into
the
roof.
You
can
see
that
for
the
last
well
in
2016
we
put
almost
400
dollars
into
patching
it
and
again
in
2018,
almost
$850
of
patching
it
and
then
in
2019
with.
E
If
we
include
the
the
study
that
we
were
mandated
to
do
by
the
insurance
company,
almost
$2,200
plus
I,
don't
know
for
sure
that
if
it,
but
that
it
got
done,
but
they
were
hoping
to
get
another
$300
into
the
patching
of
the
roof
before
the
snow
fell.
You
know
I
have
to
wait
till
next
week,
but
at
this
point
we
are
under
the
mandate
to
make
sure
there's
no
more
than
two
feet
of
snow.
E
On
that
roof,
and
so
we're
I
know
that
the
chief
is
trying
to
coordinate
that
that
happening
either
with
between
his
crews
or
maybe
even
powers,
roofing,
that
has
equipment
to
be
able
to
get
up
there
on
that
membrane
and
and
clear
the
snow
off
without
damaging
it
more.
The
council
also
asked
about
the
percentage
are
the
interest
rate
that
we're
paying
on
the
pellet
boilers.
E
The
average
annual
interest
rate
is
three
point:
five,
nine
one
percent
and
the
total
principal
or
the
original
principle
on
the
project
was
nine
hundred
and
eighty
six
thousand
dollars,
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
Our
payment
system
with
that
continues
to
go
up
every
year
and
we
make
two
payments
each
year
on
the
pellet
boiler
system
and.