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From YouTube: January 26, 2015 Council Meeting
Description
The January 12, 2015 meeting of the Caribou City Council.
The Agenda can be found here: http://www.cariboumaine.org/index.php/government/city-council/council-agendas/
The Council Packet can be found here:
http://www.cariboumaine.org/index.php/government/city-council/council-packets/
A
B
B
I
talked
to
jody
today
and
he
showed
me
a
bunch
of
paper
saying
you
guys
discontinued
that
road,
no
five
did
not
know
anything
about
that
vote
did
not
get
any
certified
mail
or
nothing
about
that,
and
I
don't
understand
how
you
folks
can
vote
to
not
plow
a
city
road
denying
me
access
to
my
two
properties.
B
I
need
to
get
into
both
my
properties
and
I
can't
do
it
if
that
road's,
not
plowed.
If
I
plow
just
my
driveways,
I
can't
get
into
them
the
road's
not
plowed,
and
I
paid
my
taxes
right
until
these
last
three
years.
I've
had
some
trouble
and
I've
been
maintaining,
like
I
said,
plowing,
that
road.
If
there
was
an
emergency
and
I
couldn't
get
out
who
would
be
responsible
if
I
didn't
plow
that
how
could
the
fire
trucks
get
in?
B
If
I
had
a
fire,
you
know
I
have
the
right
to
have
my
road
plowed,
just
like
everybody
else,
the
other
end
of
patton
street
towards
linden
street
one
house.
There
has
access
from
linden
street
the
other
house.
Why
can't
they
use
that
as
a
driveway
and
pilot
themselves?
No,
you
guys
still
plowed,
so
I
want
to
know.
What's
any
difference
between
them
and
my
street.
D
Right
everything
in
the
file
for
the
street
discontinuance
for
patent
street
there
shows
notification
was
sent
to
the
property
owner
at
that
point
in
time,
february
of
2005.
was.
B
B
B
I
pay
my
taxes.
Have
my
road
cloud,
this
storm
I'll
plow,
my
two
driveways
and
I'll
leave
the
road,
and
then,
if
there's
an
issue,
you
guys
are
going
to
be
held
responsible
for
it,
because
that's
a
city
street-
and
I
can't
mean
I
cannot
go
to
either
one
of
my
properties
without
that
city
street
plow.
A
B
B
Exactly
that's
what
I'm
saying
it's
still
your
guys's
road.
I
can't
do
nothing
with
it.
There's
not
a
thing
I
can
do
with
it
and
what
happens
if
I
sell
the
garage
across
the
road.
When
I
get
this
all
straightened
out,
then
it
becomes
two
separate
properties.
You're
gonna
have
to
plow
again
right
because
there's
no
access
to
either
property
other
than
off
that
road.
B
E
B
I
don't
know
what
the
original
addresses
were
before
the
post
office
changed
them
and
everything
yeah.
I
think
I
think
that
they're
both
I
believe
they
were
both
on
patton
street
yeah.
E
B
B
F
Can
I
ask
you
why
if
this
you've
been
plowing
this,
obviously
this.
F
F
B
B
B
B
F
D
A
little
bit
of
history,
the
council
did
discuss
discontinuing
that
section
of
road
back
in
2005
as
well
the
damages
that
the
assessment
that
was
done
at
that
point
in
time
by
the
independent
assessor
led
the
council
to
not
not
discontinue
the
road.
At
that
point
in
time,.
B
B
A
B
A
All
those
in
favor
fast
consent
agenda.
We
have
the
2014
annual
fire
and
ambulance
department
report,
2015,
financials
and
department
overages
license
approval,
baiting
back
taxes,
approval
of
the
quick
claim
deeds
for
lori,
mccarthy
and
nathan;
haye
approval
of
purchase
of
years
of
service
for
msrs,
john
thornton,
2015,
financials
and
department
origins.
That's
the
december
financials
correct,
correct
you're
in
yep.
A
Any
questions
or
comments
on
any
of
the
any
of
these
items.
D
A
continuation
of
discussion
from
last
time,
we've
received
interest
from
a
few
people
looking
to
harvest
some
trees
from
the
old
landfill
owned
by
the
city
of
caribou.
It
should
be
stressed
that
all
these
are
projected
revenues
which
will
increase
or
decrease
depending
upon
the
actual
amount
that
is
there
and
that
can
be
harvested.
Neither
amounts
are
guaranteed.
D
The
last
one
in
the
council
asked
how
the
prices
worked.
All
the
prices
are
on
a
per
time
basis,
prices
for
the
trees
are
set
by
the
mill.
The
company,
that
does
the
harvesting,
decides
what
they
need
to
keep
to
make
a
profit
and
the
excess
goes
to
the
landowner.
So
that's
why
the
prices
can
vary
from
different
harvesters
due
to
what
they
need
to
bring
in.
D
He
called
today
and
said
that
the
per
ton
price
did
go
up
about
a
dollar
per
ton
for
most
of
the
species,
so
the
projected
revenue
now
stands
about
thirty,
four
thousand
nine
hundred
give
or
take
a
little
bit
there.
They
provided
copies
of
the
license
and
insurance.
D
D
D
So
the
city
did
not
go
to
bids
we're
not
required
to.
However,
we
certainly
can.
If
the
council
wants
to
the
harvesters
simply
approached
us,
as
both
of
them
are
working
in
the
area.
If
the
council
would
rather
go
out
to
forbid,
it
might
be
prudent
to
hire
a
forester
on
our
own
to
go
through
the
property
and
get
an
independent
estimate
of
what's
there
and
put
that
estimate
out
to
bid.
D
D
D
Not
anymore,
they
were
previously,
but
the
tonnages
have
changed
for
each
of
them.
Now
the
acres
are
79.4
and
78,
but
the
actual
total
estimated
revenue
is
simply
based
on
what
one
person
feels
as
a
conservative
number
and
could
likely
be
higher
and
another
one
feels,
but.
A
D
I
don't
have
the
acreage
on
that
one.
Gary
marquis
was
looking
at
that
previously.
Actually,
kathy
mezzakelli
was
looking
at
that
working
with
the
forester.
Previously
I
don't
have
the
acreage
right
now
for
that
one,
but
it
would
be
60
60
acres.
I
would
guess.
I
F
D
Irving
forest
products
or
wood
products
contact
us,
but
potentially
an
internship
that
didn't
get
us
any
numbers.
I.
F
A
I
I
I
think
council
should
understand
that
if
we
hired
a
forest
ranger
or
a
forced
person
for
this
product,
they
are
not
going
to
give
us
a
dollar
value
on
what
is
there?
No,
I
mean
that
is
kind
of
like
this,
and
are
you
going
to
get
one
five
or
ten
pieces?
You
know
what
I
mean.
It's
really
hard.
The
biggest
role
of
that
forced
management
system
is
selective,
cutting
make.
I
With
with
the
today's
technology
and
the
gps,
if,
if
any
of
these
foresters
are
using
gps
as
their
boundaries
stay
within
what
they're
supposed
to,
I
don't
know
that
we
would
especially
where
that
piece
of
land
has
no
future
use.
It's
been
there
for
x
amount
of
years.
There's
never
been
nothing
done
with
it.
I
If
it
was
a
piece
of
property
that
the
the
city
was
looking
to
harvest
every
15
years
or
if
there
was
some
plans
for
it,
it
might
be
worse
having
a
forest
management
program
for
it,
but
because
of
where
it's
sitting
and
attached
to
the
landfill
there's
really
no
access
to
it.
I
think
we
should
just
cut
it.
F
I
I
have
talked
to
it's
a
little
bit,
unfair,
probably
on
my
portion
to
say
anything.
I
do
not
know.
I
do
not
know
the
second
outfit
out
of
the
frenchville
sanigate
area.
I
do
know.
I
Martin
industries
and
I
have
talked
to
a
few
of
the
farm
people
that
have
actually
had
cuttings
on
and
they
would
welcome
him
back
at
any
time
they
like
his
as
management
control
programs.
His
honesty
is
fairness
within
the
load
counts,
and
so
I
can
speak
highly
of
him
only
because
I
know
him
and
I've
talked
to
two
or
three
of
the
different
farmers,
but
I
do
not
in
same
fairness.
I
do
not
know
the
other
contractor
at
all.
A
I
I
I
think,
and
and
that's
just
for
information
but
because
two
people
have
already
given
us
price.
I
In
all
fairness,
I
don't
think
it
would
be
proper
to
put
it
out
to
bid
knowing
the
other
contractors
have
know
what
the
price
are.
I
mean,
and
it's
and
it's
almost
too
bad
for
that
price
to
be
out
there,
and
my
fear
is
that
all
I
gotta
do
is
say
two
thousand
dollars
more
and
then,
if
I
can't
deliver,
I
can't
deliver
the
wood,
wasn't
there
so
that
that's
that'd
be
my
concern.
H
Good
point:
I
think
too,
that
something
like
this.
You
can't
just
base
on
price
either.
I
think
you,
I
think,
there's
all
kinds
of
other
factors.
There's
you
know
they
say:
they're
gonna
take
five
inches
and
greater.
Are
they
gonna
clean
up
after
themselves?
You
know
some
outfit
may
do
it
one
way.
Someone
often
may
do
it
the
other,
and
I
think
that
you
know
as
part
of
the
our
selection
process,
and
I
do
agree
with
dave's.
H
You
know
not
putting
it
out
to
bid.
I
think
you
have
to
take
into
account
their
practices.
What
their
plan
is.
I
I
think
a
lot
is
to
be
said
with
I
mean
most
of
these
farmlands
and
I'm
talking
about
a
couple
of
big
farmers
that
have
a
lot
of
land
and
if,
if
they'll
look
you
right
in
the
eye
and
say
I
would
have
him
back
that
speaks
volumes,
I
think
they
felt
as
though
he
was
fair
and
the
others
may
be
as
well.
So
believe
me,
I
am
not
trying
to
down
one
or
the
other.
We
have
a
local
guy
that
I
don't
know
anyone
that
has
anything
bad
to
say
about
him.
I
You
know
I.
I
know
that
his
estimate
was
low,
but
I
know
in
conversations
with
him
that
he
expects
it
could
be
more,
and
I
honestly
believe
if
there
is
more,
we
will
get
more.
I
heard
no
one
say
that
he
tries
to
hide
a
few
tickets,
so
we
don't
get
count
for
loads
or
any
of
that
it
just
seems
like
a
good,
honest
person.
So.
G
I'll
move
that
we
cut
at
the
old
dump
site,
we
cut
it
west
of
wherever
on
north
cariboo
park
and
any
place
else.
We
got
and
give
it
to
the
local
person
unrelated
to
me.
I
don't
know
who
is
it.
H
A
Motion
by
councilor
martin
seconded
by
councillor,
stewart
to
move
forward
with
cutting
the
trees
on
the
the
old
dump
site
and
on
west
of
the
snowmobile
trail
there
in
north
cariboo
park
and
that
be
awarded
to
martin
forest
products
of
caribou
that
cover
it
all
any
other
comments.
All
in
favor
passed
unanimous.
A
D
A
portion
to
that
street
still
existed
still
exists
today
on
the
south
side
of
the
bridge,
the
portion
on
the
north
side
was
35
feet
in
width
having
100
feet
of
frontage
on
tax
map,
27
lot
8
and
80
feet
of
frontage
on
tax
map,
27
lot,
5a
of
the
2004
tax
maps.
The
portion
of
this
street
was
discussed
by
the
council
on
january
24th
and
february
28
of
2005..
D
The
minutes
as
it
relates
to
the
discussion
from
february
28
2005,
are
as
follows:
motion
by
siebel
seconded
by
k,
merchantson
to
discontinue
a
portion
of
patton's
street
being
35
feet
in
width
and
having
100
feet
of
frontage
on
tax
map,
27
lot,
8
and
80
feet
of
frontage
on
tax
map,
tax
map,
27
lot
5a
and
that
no
damages
be
paid
to
joseph
and
michelle
mcdougall
owners
of
record
on
both
lots.
Seven,
yes,
so
voted
so
in
2005.
D
The
council
voted
to
discontinue
the
street
and
give
it
to
mcdougals
that
effectively
ended
the
responsibility
of
the
city
to
maintain
that
portion
of
the
street.
However,
there
was
never
a
certificate
of
discontinuance,
created
or
filed,
I
should
say,
filed
with
the
registry
of
deeds,
as
is
typical
in
a
situation,
we
did
find
the
original
order
and
the
original
certificate,
which
is
now
at
the
registry
for
recording,
along
with
that,
we
did
find
copies
and
notices
sent
to
the
mcdougalls.
Everything
appears
that
it
was
followed
correctly
for
the
process
at
that
point
in
time.
D
D
One
other
note:
I
will
note
that
in
2004
it
was
two
separate
tax
taxable
lots
today.
It
is
just
one
lot
for
taxation
purpose,
so
so
would
be
the
whole
property
in
question,
including
the
street
that
was
foreclosed
on
due
to
nonpayment
of
taxes.
D
B
But
I
wonder,
is
how
come
after
all
these
years
now
you
can
give
that
street,
indeed
it
over
and
all
this
other
time
you
could.
D
The
council
discontinued
the
street
at
that
point
in
2005..
It
should
have
been
recorded
at
the
registry
as
such.
Then
it
was
not
in
talking
with
mma
legal.
There
is
strong
case
law
that
says
that,
even
though
it
was
not
recorded
having
it
recorded
now,
especially
with
the
owner
of
records,
still
being
the
same,
there's
no
no
difference.
It's
still
a
discontinued
street
okay.
B
A
C
B
D
D
A
B
B
F
A
A
A
Anyway,
we
have,
you
said
there
are
copies
of
the
notices
sent,
but
you
don't
know
if
they
were
registered
or.
I
D
F
B
A
Motion
by
counselor
terrio
seconded
by
counselor
mcdonough,
to
give
the
owner
previous
owner
up
until
friday,
the
30th
did
you
say
to
pay
all
taxes
due
in
full,
correct.
D
As
the
council's
aware,
we
need
to
update
the
parking
lot
ordinance.
The
new
proposed
ordinance
is
on
the
following
pages:
language
to
be
removed
is
in
strike
through,
and
language
to
be,
added
is
underlined.
There
are
two
main
changes.
The
first
change
is
eliminating
references
to
the
parking
lot
at
65
herschel
street.
The
second
change
is
to
clarify
and
modify
the
name
of
seven
hatch
drive
to
hatch
drive
north
parking
lot.
This
would
help
to
clarify
which
city
on
parking
lot
and
hash
drive.
D
E
American
I'll
introduce
ordinance
number
one:
2015
series,
city,
caribou,
county
rustic,
state
of
maine,
an
ordinance
amending
chapter,
12
traffic
short
title
and
ordinance
amending
downtown
parking
lot.
Restrictions.
D
The
2015
income
budget
is
presented
tonight
for
council
considerations.
Budgets
provided
under
separate
cover
also
available
online
for
anybody
at
home
or
any
residents
that'd
be
interested
in
that,
as
approved
by
the
council.
Earlier
tonight,
the
city
collected
71
829,
39
cents
above
the
budget
revenue
amount.
D
D
So
this
income
budget
message
has
originally
presented
to
the
council
on
the
citizens
of
caribou
on
january
8
2015
pursuant
to
the
city
charter.
Section
5.04
is
being
presented
again
here
tonight,
as
the
goal
was
set
by
the
council
to
not
see
a
property
tax
increase
on
the
municipal
side.
That
is
still
being
achieved
in
the
budget
presented
here
today.
Overall,
revenue
is
up
by
nearly
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
with
the
two
biggest
drivers
of
that
being
excise
tax
collection,
collection
and
ambulance
revenues.
D
Under
general
government
tax
liens
collected
line
zero,
one
is
decreased
by
eight
hundred
dollars
from
2014,
but
is
up
from
2013
the
state
raised
the
fees
charged
which
increased
the
fees
we
received
for
the
tax
lien
costs.
The
increase
is
ex.
The
increase
in
expense,
for
this
is
shown
in
department.
80.
payments
in
lieu
of
taxes
line
four
are
increased
for
2015
by
6500.
D
This
reflects
the
new
pilot
agreements
that
we
have
in
place.
Now
we
are
budgeting,
an
increase
of
seven
thousand
dollars
for
city
owned
property
line,
zero.
Five.
These
are
the
funds
we
taken
after
we
sell
tax
acquired
properties.
The
number
could
change,
based
on
the
sale
prices
of
the
properties
that
we
had
out
for
bid.
The
amount
budget
is
still
below
the
average
of
the
past
three
years:
collection,
excise,
tax
line,
six,
we're
budgeting,
a
75.
C
D
Increase
for
the
last
several
years
this
line
has
been
increasing.
However,
governor
lepage
has
proposed
to
force
cities
to
turn
over
100
of
excise
tax
collections
to
the
state.
If
he's
successful
in
getting
that
legislation
passed
and
is
able
to
steal
the
money
collected
by
the
city,
we'd
be
looking
at
100
or
1.25
million
loss
annually.
D
D
The
travel
reimbursement
line
12
has
increased
as
mma
pays
for
mileage
and
hotels
for
attending
the
lpc
legislative
legislative
policy
committee.
The
money
received
from
that
will
go
to
the
line.
The
expenses
were
increased
accordingly,
as
well.
Revenue
sharing
line
18
we're
budgeting
flat
for
2015.
That
amount
could
change
based
upon
what
the
legislature
does.
There
are
many
things
that
could
happen
with
the
line,
including
seeing
an
increase
or
complete
elimination.
D
D
There
will
not
be
a
tax
rate
increase
due
to
the
city,
as
the
budget
is
presented.
Overlay
line,
34
is
our
buffer
and
helps
to
add
to
the
reserves.
If
we
anticipate
any
changes
in
revenue
before
final
adoption
and
setting
the
mill
rate,
the
overlay
should
be
increased
accordingly,
as
council
is
well
aware,
each
year
we
have
a
tax
anticipation,
note
or
tan
on
standby.
We
have
not
had
to
use
one
yet,
but
our
cash
flow
runs
extremely
tight
in
the
summer
months.
D
A
larger
overlay
will
help
build
our
reserves
and
give
us
some
breathing
room
during
this
time
period.
The
final
amount
in
this
line
will
be
set
when
the
mill
rate
is
set
investment
income
line.
52
is
the
amount
of
money
we'll
receive
from
an
interest
from
the
main
pers
funds
when
we
bring
them
back.
That
amount
was
based
on
the
full
12
months
of
interest.
As
the
expenses
were
also
based
on
12
months
of
expenses,
so
that
will
not
be
the
case
in
this
line
as
well.
D
The
expenses
will
be
adjusted
accordingly
as
soon
as
the
transfer
of
funds
is
finalized.
Health
and
sanitation
revenues
there's
no
changes
from
14
municipal
building
revenues,
no
changes
from
14..
This
is
the
rent
money
received
from
renting
out
the
lions
building
general
assistance
revenues.
We
receive
50
reimbursement
from
the
state
for
our
general
assistance
money
we
give
out.
The
decrease
in
revenues
is
directly
attributable
tributal
for
a
decrease
in
the
expense
side,
tax
assessment
revenues.
D
We
don't
anticipate
any
major
changes
from
2014,
however
homestead
reimbursement
and
betty
reimbursement
will
not
be
known
until
we
set
the
mill
rate,
there's
also
legislative
proposals
that
could
change
both
of
those
programs
pretty
drastically
code
enforcement.
So
no
city
is
no
longer
issuing
electrical
permits
and
no
longer
carries
the
cost
for
that.
We've
eliminated
the
revenue
from
that
which
is
line,
zero,
zero
one.
Sorry
we
are
budgeting
slightly
higher
for
building
permits.
D
2014
was
a
good
year
for
building
permits
and
the
trend
looks
to
hold
for
2015.
our
services
for
woodland
code
enforcement
are
set
at
two
thousand
and
forty
dollars.
It's
based
on
the
number
of
hours
and
permits
we
expect
to
handle
for
them
library
revenues,
as
our
new
library
director
has
brought
in
passport
services
to
our
library,
we're
watching,
300
or
3
000
in
revenue
for
this
line.
D
This
is
based
upon
what
we
believe
is
conservative
number
of
passports
we
will
assist
with,
as
this
is
the
first
full
year
of
the
service,
it's
difficult
to
project
with
any
level
of
great
confidence.
What
we'll
see
for
revenue
on
that
line,
fire
and
ambulance
as
we're
combining
the
departments
beginning
in
2015
for
budgeting
purposes,
we're
renumbering
all
the
lines
to
group
them
in
a
more
logical
order.
D
We
have
the
prisoner
meals
line,
eight,
which
is
increased
by
fifteen
hundred
dollars,
based
upon
the
historical
increase
we've
seen
the
last
several
years,
there's
a
salary
reimbursement
line,
fourteen
that
we
anticipate
being
fifteen
thousand
dollars
this
year.
This
is
the
grant
funds
we
receive
for
the
various
details
that
our
police
officers
and
reserve
officers
work.
The
reserve
officer,
salary
line
on
the
expense
side
was
increased
accordingly
as
well.
Emergency
management,
the
state
reimbursement
line.
D
Five-
is
a
thousand
dollars
higher
this
year,
as
we
anticipate
being
eligible
for
a
few
more
dollars
from
the
state
for
our
services.
We're
also
renting
out
the
space
on
the
communications
towers,
which
has
not
been
done
in
the
past,
but
the
revenue
is
being
accounted
for
this
year
in
line
six
in
the
amount
of
one
thousand
eight
hundred
dollars
public
work,
the
amount
of
money
we
re
we
anticipate
to
receive
from
the
state
dot
is
going
down
by
twenty
thousand
one.
D
Sixty
eight
in
line
one
the
amount
we
receive
is
directly
proportional
to
the
level
of
funding
dot
receives
at
the
state
level.
It's
possible
that
this
funding
number
could
decrease
even
further.
We're
also
losing
the
one-time
funds
of
the
contract,
with
press
file
line
eight
that
was
anticipated
as
only
a
six
month
deal
last
year.
We
are
anticipating
some
revenues
from
clearing
the
school
department
parking
lot,
lots
which
is
accounted
for
on
line
nine
at
three
thousand
for
the
rec
department.
D
There
is
very
little
change:
we're
increasing
the
rental
income
line
won
by
a
thousand
dollars
based
upon
the
historical
numbers,
decreasing
special
events,
land
three
by
one
thousand
seven
hundred.
Once
again,
all
these
are
based
on
the
historical
numbers.
With
the
new
events
and
marketing
coordinator
coming
on
board
this
year,
we
may
be
able
to
see
some
of
the
numbers
increase
in
future
years
parks
department.
The
miscellaneous
income
line,
one
for
parks,
is
down
by
2000,
based
solely
on
the
2013
and
14
numbers
airport,
the
funds
that
we
receive
based
upon
the
contract.
D
We
have
the
opportunity
to
increase
the
rental
amount
by
a
small
amount
this
year,
we'll
be
looking
at
that
as
we
go
forward.
However,
the
amount
won't
be
small
enough
where
it
won't
be
a
large
impact
on
this
revenue
line
the
trailer
park
the
department
brings
in
enough
revenue
to
cover
their
expenses.
Anything
left
over
at
the
end
of
the
year
is
put
into
the
reserve
account
to
fund
infrastructure
needs
there.
Insurance
and
retirements.
There's
no
changes
to
the
department
from
previous
years
that
we're
expecting
for
2015..
D
So
that
concludes
the
revenue
summary
for
the
general
funds.
The
enterprise
funds
all
have
revenue
counts
as
well.
Economic
development
is
paid
for
by
the
downtown
tif
district,
the
rev
and
the
revenues
that
are
captured
there.
Revenues
there
are
captured
on
the
incremental
value
of
the
property
in
the
tift
district,
compared
with
the
value
of
the
property
when
the
district
was
created,
which
was
2006..
D
So
as
these
funds
are
from
the
downtown
tip
district,
only
properties
located
within
district
pay
into
these
funds.
The
executive
amount
of
the
tif
capture
will
be
based
upon
the
mill
rate
when
that's
set.
We're
currently
projecting
that
to
stay
the
same
for
fort
as
it
was
in
14..
Housing
is
fully
funded
by
the
u.s
department
of
housing
and
urban
development.
All
expenses
in
this
department
are
covered
by
the
revenues
from
hud.
Fss
is
a
fully
funded
grant
from
hud
as
well.
D
All
expenses
are
covered
by
the
users
there,
the
snowmobile
trail
maintenance
revenue
in
this
department
comes
mainly
from
the
two
sources
we
receive
a
portion
of
the
funds
for
snowmobiles
registered
in
caribou.
We
also
receive
a
grant
from
the
state
for
maintenance
of
our
trails.
We
do
receive
some
miscellaneous
income
as
well,
and
we
are
anticipating
a
slight
increase
in
the
funds
in
that
category
for
2015.
D
A
D
The
council
can
set
the
mail
rate
wherever
they
would
like
to
could
be
down
from
where
it
was
based
upon
valuation.
Yeah.
D
A
A
One
of
the
police
department
revenues
which
that
salary
reimbursement
line
I
mean
last
year
we
never,
we
never
budgeted
anything
in
there
and
we
ended
up
with
31
237
dollars
and
the
end
of
october.
We
were
19
000
and
we
projected
to
the
year
end.
We
were
going
to
end
up
at
19,
but
we
ended
up
at
31..
D
Last
year,
most
of
those
funds
were
still
receded
into
the
expense
line
we've
separated
that
out
in
14,
so
that
the
revenues
come
into
the
revenue
line.
A
A
But
I
don't.
I
think
we
should
be
able
to
cure
that.
In
all
honesty,
it's
a
matter
of
somebody
looking
at
these
numbers
and
knowing
that
we
have
to
make
payments
for
six
months
of
social
security
or
whatever
else
in
that
last
month
of
the
year,
and
we
shouldn't
be
projecting
that
we're
going
to
end
up
being.
You
know
over
half
a
million
dollars
ahead
of
budget
or
something
here.
A
I
just
think
that's
ridiculous
and
I
know
we
have
a.
I
know
we
have
a
computer
program
that
we're
doing
this
on,
but
things
can
be
done
manually
as
well,
especially
when
we're
looking
at
projections-
and
you
know
our
whole
financial
system-
I
just
I
think
it
leaves
an
awful
lot
to
be
desired,
and
I
know
it's
not
a
business,
because
if
it
was
a
business
and
on
december
the
8th,
you
were
projecting
that
you
were
going
to
be
ahead.
A
A
D
A
I
I
don't
expect
them
to
be
right,
but
you
know
you
got
to
be
talking
about
being
within
five
percent
or
something
austin.
You
can't
talk
about
being.
You
know,
25
percent,
of
what
you
were
you
know
a
month
earlier.
I
I
don't
think
that's
acceptable.
I
mean,
if
you're
within
95
percent
of
it
fine
or
even
90
percent
of
it,
but
to
only
be
25
percent
of
it.
It's
just
to
me
just
doesn't
seem
right
and
again.
A
I
know
it's
municipal
government,
but
my
feelings
is:
it
should
be
run
more
like
a
business
and
like
a
municipal
government
and
maybe
we'd
be
a
lot
further
ahead
anyway,
and
just
to
clarify
everything
for
the
rest
of
this
council
tonight
on
the
consent
agenda,
which
I
did
not
approve.
The
only
reason
I
didn't
approve
it
is
the
financials.
A
And
again
manager,
police
and
I've
had
a
conversation,
and
I
requested
that
I
get
the
complete
set
of
financials
rather
than
just
that
little
one-page
summary-
and
you
know
I
didn't
get
that
until
tonight,
so
I
haven't
gone
through
it,
so
I
personally
just
don't
feel
comfortable
approving
it
until
I
looked
at
it.
So
that's
the
reason
I
did
not
agree
with
the
motion
and
I
think
it
you
know.
A
C
A
C
A
A
E
E
E
E
D
A
That's
under
meetings.
I
was
asking
for
other
business
yet
first,
but
I
do
have
that
written
under
upcoming
meeting
dates.
I
was
going
to
to
say
that
I
have
a
meeting
planned
for
next
monday,
which
is
what
february
the
second
second
second
six
o'clock
for
the
finance
committee,
and
that
is
open
to
any
counselors
that
want
to
come.
There
is
a
committee,
but
all
concerts,
you
understand
you
can
come
to
any
committee
meeting
you'd
like
to
sit
in
so.
A
A
G
I
requested
a
workshop
to
discuss
items
from
the
budget
that
we
bring
up
in
october
november,
but
we
don't
have
time
to
research
and
do
anything
about
it.
Even
if
it's
a
good
idea
and
I'd
like
to
do
that,
I
don't
know
if
you
start
february
start
march,
I
don't
care
but-
and
I'm
talking
specifically
about.