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From YouTube: January 17, 2017 Workshop on Recreational Marijuana
Description
Council agendas, minutes, and packets can be found online here:
www.cariboumaine.org/index.php/government/city-council/council-meetings/
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A
Good
evening,
everybody
where
this
is
the
caribou
planning
board,
having
a
workshop
for
discussion,
discussion
on
possible
ordinance
regarding
the
use
of
recreational
marijuana
in
the
city
of
caribou.
The
purpose
of
this
meeting
is
to
discuss
with
members
of
the
City
Council,
which
are
present
as
well
as
any
members
of
the
public.
A
What
what?
If
anything,
we
should
be
doing
regarding
recreational
marijuana
in
the
city
of
caribou
I
will
say
that
there
is
already
a
an
ordinance
that
was
established
I'm
thinking
five
six
years
ago
regarding
medical
marijuana,
and
this
basically
comes
about
as
a
result
of
the
November
referendum
that
legalized
it
for
the
state
of
Maine,
which
sixty-two
percent
of
the
caribou
citizens
voting
against
that
referendum.
A
Nobody,
okay,
members
of
the
City
Council
mr.
mayor,
does
any
do
any
of
you
have
any
comments,
statements
regarding
in
which
direction
they
would
like
to
see
things
go,
although
I,
whatever
we
do
here,
is
going
back
to
the
city
afterward
back
to
the
council.
After
this
understood
were
the
junior
varsity,
yes,
Phil
I.
B
In
a
second,
if
you
get
one
so
much
done
a
terrible
I'd
like
to
make
a
recommendation
that
we
not
allow
recreational
marijuana
operations
in
the
city
of
careful
I
base
that
on
it's
not
a
it's,
not
an
authorized
use
by
the
federal
government
and
also
approximately
2500
about
citizens
during
the
Nova
November
referendum
rejected
the
referendum.
So.
C
Hi
I'm
David,
Martin,
I
I,
remember
40
years
ago,
growing
up
every
other
town
and
it
was
the
county
was
dry
and
all
you
were
doing
is
having
your
own
people,
your
own
citizens
going
next
door
to
buy,
buy
liquor
or
beer
or
whatever
you
go
to
e
plantation
or
the
little
store
right
on
the
border
between
presque
isle
and
mars
hill.
That
was
a
gold
mine.
But
why
pass
up
on
the
business
I'm
not
talking
about
maybe
having
these.
C
Having
a
bar
like
thing
but
I'm,
saying:
if,
if
it's
legal
to
sell
it,
I
think
we
should
allow
it
to
be
so
well,
I
send
all
the
money
to
Prescott
or
somewhere
else,
and
if
we
only
choose
to
follow
the
laws
that
you
know
it's
a
majority,
it's
not
just
careful.
The
state
voted
for
it.
So
if
it's
a
law,
it's
a
law.
Thank
you.
D
Yeah
one
question
I
have
is
how
much
weight
do
you
think
we
should
give
to
whatever
the
state
people
come
up
with
in
terms
of
guidelines,
implementation
efforts,
I
understand
that
by
january,
thirtieth
I
believe
personal
possession
is
going
to
be
allowed,
but
they're
planning
on
delaying
everything
else
till
they
figure
out
what
to
do
should
we
do
you
think
we
should
follow
that
and
wait
until
they
have
something
to
say:
yeah,
that's
a
little
bit
I
think
we
should
wait.
Okay,
I.
E
Guess
I'd
make
the
comment
that
you're,
you
know
whatever
the
state
guidelines
in
that
are
are
what
should
be
used,
but
the
biggest
question
is
and
you've
just
heard
from
both
sides.
You
know
just
carefully
even
want
to
engage
in
having
retail
marijuana
sales
here
in
caribou
and
again,
as
mr.
Martin
says,
when
you
go
by
the
vote,
you
could
buy
the
vote
of
the
state.
Yes,
but
if
you
go
by
the
vote
and
caribou
no
because
the
majority
of
citizens
here
don't
want
it.
So
that's
the
decision
that
will
have
to
be
made
first.
A
And
I
guess
I'd
like
to
clarify
that
whatever
is
is
put
in
place
initially
for
the
city
of
caribou
can
always
be
altered
down
the
road,
and
so,
if
caribou,
basically,
you
know,
says
no
in
in
accordance
to
what
it's
the
majority
of
its
citizens
have
stated
if
five
years
from
now
or
two
years
from
now
situations
change,
there's
nothing
preventing
the
city
of
caribou
at
that
time
to
reconsider
and
and
to
alter
the
decision.
If,
if
that's
the
feeling
of
the
citizens.
F
Plus
we
can't
always
I
can't
always
go
by
the
majority
vote.
I,
don't
know
about
anyone
out
in
the
audience,
but
how
many
times
has
someone
been
elected
by
the
majority
vote
and
the
next
thing?
You
know
what
everybody's
very
displeased
we
don't
know
what
recreational
marijuana
is
going
to
look
like
in
a
state
mate.
We
only
know
what
it
looks
like
illegally
and
ever
since
this
has
passed,
it's
more
predominant
when
you
go
in
stores,
it's
more
predominant.
When
you
go
out
anywhere,
you
can
smell
it.
It
used
to
be
something
that
was
hidden.
F
So
we
don't
know
what
this
is
going
to
look
like
in
five
years
and
in
five
years
we
don't
know
if
the
federal
government
is
going
to
deny
it
again
and
the
state
of
Maine
denies
it
again.
I
would
rather
have
somebody
else,
be
the
person
who
tries
to
put
it
in
their
community
and
take
lessons
from
there
if
it's
something
we
end
up
having
to
do
but
caribou
base
is
a
lot
of
its
decisions
on
the
community
and
the
community
has
said
no
I.
A
Want
to
point
out
something
that
they
manager,
austin
police,
sent
us
a
variety
of
publications
and
information
stem
from
other
areas,
and
one
of
the
things
that
kind
of
was
interesting
to
me
was
that
the
mayor
as
and
I'm
going
to
quote
this,
that
the
marijuana
of
today
is
not
of
the
same
potency
of
the
marijuana
of
the
Woodstock
era.
Then
it's
at
least
four
times
stronger,
maybe
more
depending
on
which
report
you're
reading.
A
And
so
if
there
are
some
in
caribou
who
have
experienced
marijuana
of
the
Woodstock
era,
I
guess
we're
dealing
with
a
different
drug
today
that
it
is
much
more
potent
and
therefore
the
effects
are
our
longer-lasting.
I
will
say
that
the
chief
of
caribou
police,
who
was
present
tonight,
has
gone
on
record
as
saying
that
he
is
opposed
to
our
selling
and
that
some
of
the
literature
that
was
provided
to
us
has
to
do
with
operating
vehicles
under
the
influence
of
marijuana
and
what
that
does
to
the
to
the
safety
of
the
roads.
A
E
D
Yeah,
it's
been
yup
it's,
but
it's
nothing
new
one
hour
already.
Yet
exactly
but
I
in
a
prior
planning
board
role
in
another
state,
I
was
educated
in
the
phrase
attractive
nuisance
and
I
have
a
person
concern
about.
If
we
have
retail
shops,
even
if
they
are
tightly
regulated,
they
are
an
attractive
nuisance
in
there
will
be
young
people
attempting
to
get
around
the
system
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
really
anxious
to
dangle
more
temptation.
They're.
G
Decrease
that
amount
of
temptation
do
them.
You
know
I
mean
it's
evident
now
within
an
alcohol,
there
means
to
get
it
I
mean
if
we
don't
have
that
particular
visit
that
type
of
business
in
town
here,
then
that
will
lessen
that
potential.
For
some
of
those,
let's
say
people
who
are
able
to
our
mobile
enough
to
get
across
town
and
then
to
other
towns
in
order
to
seek
what
they're
looking
for.
H
Dayven
on
many
of
you
know
me
those
of
you
that
don't
on
LI
otra
del
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
safe
alternatives,
the
only
medical
marijuana
dispensary
here
in
Aroostook
County
District,
eight
I
heard
what
people
have
to
say.
I
I
just
like
to
weigh
in
a
little
bit
in
terms
of
throwing
some
caution
to
the
wind.
H
However,
at
the
same
time,
I'm
listening
to
the
arguments
and
I
would
respectfully
ask
you
to
think
about.
Yes,
I
understand
that
a
small
majority
of
your
residents
into
the
voting
for
it.
However,
at
the
same
time,
not
a
lot
of
people
voted
for
Trump,
and
does
that
mean
that
Hillary
is
our
president?
No
it
doesn't.
The
law
was
passed
in
regards
to
some
of
the
ill
effects
that
are
taking
place
currently
with
alcohol
in
this
in
the
state,
but
also
here
bright
in
town.
He
just
issued
over
the
last
year
to
bar
licenses.
H
I
tried
to
get
get
in
the
other
day
to
the
the
one
behind
down
by
lourdes
no
and
warehouse
you're
trying
to
have
the
warehouse
and
the
parking
was
horrendous.
If
you
want
to
talk
about
potential
dangers,
there's
there's
quite
a
few
potential
dangers
there.
You
have
a
speakeasy
right
now
behind
dodos
that
nobody
seems
to
want
to
address
it's
it's
an
elephant,
that's
in
the
room
that
everybody
seems
to
not
pay
attention
to,
for
whatever
reason
and
I
know
want
and
they've
been
selling
illegally
for
quite
a
while.
H
You
say:
you're
a
business
friendly
community
I've,
yet
to
see
it
from
where
I
sit.
We
have
the
potential
to
bring
some
jobs
to
caribou
and
they're
relatively
decent
paying
jobs,
and
we
are
regulated
in
terms
of
of
what
you
can
do
in
terms
of
knowing
whether
or
not
there's
an
individual.
That's
inebriated
is
my
understanding
that
you
have
a
detection
officer,
which
is:
is
that
correct?
You
do
and
and
they're
few
and
far
between,
but
you
have
them
so
honestly,
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
how
much
water
that
actually
holds.
H
Your
term
attractive
nuisance,
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from.
However,
you
have
the
ability
to
put
a
limitation,
and,
if
you
wanted
to,
you,
could
only
have
one
shop
in
the
town.
The
state
is
going
to
allow
dispensaries
medical
marijuana
dispensaries
to
dispense,
maybe
not
hearing
caryville.
H
H
A
D
H
D
F
F
In
will
even
go
without
any
of
that
if
something
wanted
to
open
up-
and
it
was
a
big
factory
and
it
was
going
to
dump
all
kinds
of
pollutants
in
the
river-
that's
not
what
the
community
wants.
That
has
nothing
to
do
with
any
marijuana
or
any
legislation.
The
community
doesn't
want
that
type
of
stuff.
Does
that
mean
we're
not
business
friendly,
know,
but
we're
community
oriented?
That's
that
that's
what
sets
caribou
apart
from
a
lot
of
other
communities
and
when
we
had
visioning
sessions
and
decided
what
the
goal
was
and
where
caribou
was
headed.
H
F
E
Going
to
ask
question
I
want
to
ask
it
based
on
all
kinds
of
bits
of
information.
I've
heard
I
have
two
sons,
neither
one
that
smokes
marijuana.
Both
of
them
have
tried,
though
I'm
sure,
but
I
respect
their
opinions.
A
lot
and
I've
had
discussions
with
them
about
what
would
happen
if
marijuana
was
legalized
and
and
of
course,
I
was
in
the
position
of
all
the
problems
that
could
cause
and
everything
else,
and
both
of
them
are
the
same
opinion
they
both
have
said.
Do
you
really
think
a
whole
bunch
of
people
that
aren't
smoking?
E
It
now
we're
going
to
start
smoking
it?
You
know,
and
we've
made
the
comment
that
you
know
those
that
are
smoking.
It
now
already
have
access
to
it.
So
I
guess
my
question
is
how
big
a
business
do
you
think
this
will
be
considering
your
green
thumb
comment
as
well
about
this
area?
You
know,
even
if
one
now
that
it
is
legal,
how
many
people
you
think
are
actually
going
to
be
going
out
to
buy
it
as
opposed
to
those
that
now
could
use
it
legally
happen,
maybe
haven't
grown
it
all
along.
E
H
Would
agree-
and
I
would
also
agree
that
that
you're
going
to
find
less
of
it
on
the
black
market
as
a
result,
once
it
becomes
illegal
you're
going
to
find
lunch
ad
deals
taking
place.
I
H
Other
thing
that
I
would
also
say
is
simply
the
fact
that
in
general
there
has
been
there's
an
economist
from
Harvard
that
specifically
states
there's
going
to
be
a
curve.
E
Yeah,
it's
not.
We
are
in
a
position
where
you
know
if
it's
legalized
here
you
have
Canada,
but
Canada
is
going
to
legalize
marijuana.
Probably
this
this
coming
spring,
the
government
up
there
is
like
to
do
it
countrywide,
so
we're
not
going
to
have
much
people
from
Canada
running
over
here
to
get
it
because
it's
now
legal
we're
pretty
far
north
for
anybody
from
Massachusetts
or
anything
to
be
coming
up
here.
To
get
it
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
much
difference
that
really
wouldn't
make
here.
E
You
know
somebody
buys
it
takes
it
home
who's
going
to
get
their
hands
on
it.
What's
going
to
happen
to
it?
Okay,
you
know
you're
not
going
to
have
six
year
old,
kids,
picking
up
and
rolling
up
marijuana
cigarette
smoking
them,
but
they
sure
might
be
eaten
some
brownies
that
are
sitting
on
the
table
or
something
like
that.
So
not
that's
where
my
concern
is
with
la
respect
and
it's.
H
A
valid
concern,
I
would,
I
would
say
that
your
concern
is,
it
would
be
the
same
with
tobacco
products
that
have
been
geared
towards
a
younger
taste
buds.
I
would
say
that
it
would
similar
to
alcohol
products
that
have
been
geared
towards
younger
taste
buds,
and
I
would
also
say
that
it
will
be
dispensed
in
containers
that
are
hard
to
open.
J
K
L
J
K
The
black
market
is
still
just
as
active
people
just
pay
the
dealer
rather
than
paying
the
store
I.
That's
what
I've
heard
from
my
colleagues
in
that
state
over
the
last
year's
the
black
market
still
thrives
right,
so
I
don't
think
you
would
do
anything
to
change
the
black
market
and
our
state
county
or
carry
the.
G
I
also
go
to
black
market,
not
just
just
to
avoid
paying
the
taxes
but
to
be
discreet
about
it
as
well,
so
I'm
just
going
to
see
them
walking
into
a
store.
Oh
look
what
this
guys
doing!
I
know
what
kind
of
store
that
is
I
know
where
he's
going.
What's
he
up
to
regardless,
whether
it's
legal
or
not,
it's
going
to
be
public
interpretation
now
well,.
C
H
F
A
F
A
F
A
Austin
should
we
be
looking
for
I
mean
we
cannot
take
legal
action,
we're
just
looking
for
anything
further
or
because
this
is
going
to
go
to
the
north
shore.
Fish
is
going
to
go
to
the
council
next
or
it's
going
to
come
back
to
the
Planning
Board
for
an
ordinance
or
we're.
Gonna
have
to
come
up
with.
J
K
A
Then,
if
I
were
to
ask
for
a
show
of
hands,
is
that
considered
of
alder?
Is
that
considered
it
just
determining
consensus?
Okay?
Well,
then,
I
guess
I
would
start
with
a
show
of
hands
of
who
is
in
favor
of
marijuana
being
sold
in
the
sieve.
Retail
recreational
marijuana
in
caribou
raise
your
hand.
It.
M
I
had
a
question
and
I
took
a
look
at
the
packet
that
was
included
with
this
meeting
and
I
read
an
interesting
statistic:
I
think
they
were
provided
by
a
organization
called
s
am,
but
the
statistic
I
rich
is
a
one
dollar
profit
made
from
recreational
marijuana
and
cost
the
city
ten
dollars
in
regulatory
and
health
and
other
costs
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
that
applies,
that
that
would
apply
to
caribou.
Specifically,
if
that
statistic
is
a
map-based,
our
national
average
per
se
I,
provided
that
is
okay,.
L
Ken
perrott
I'm
with
a
power
prevention
which
is
supporting
Meharry,
Medical,
Center
and
I
specialize
in
subsidies
prevention
and
do
a
lot
of
education
around
marijuana
and
other
substances
in
here
who
North
is
my
service
area
and
that
that
comes
from
smart
approaches
to
marijuana.
Okay
and
most
of
their
data
comes
out
of
Colorado.
L
L
Without
you
just
marijuana
specific,
they
probably
spite
eight
on
those
forms.
If
you
look
on
the
thing
all
the
research
is
by
shaded
on
those
documents,
hope
you
need
more
information
about
it.
You
could
type
on
that
citation
if
you
went
to
the
online
source
and
it
would
tell
you
more
about
it.
Okay,.
M
L
Because
in
Colorado
it's
not
every
city,
it's
like
me,
not
every
city
voted
to
be
able
to
sell
it
in
their
city.
So
because
Denver
allowed
legalization
in
the
retail
sales
people
move
there
to
get
it.
Then
you
have
all
these
other
issues
that
up
with
using
and
addiction
and
the
like.
So
when
he
has
found
was.
F
C
D
D
C
A
D
M
Anything
yeah.
The
reason
I
asked
about
that
statistic
of
ten
dollars
for
every
one
dollar
is
a
warning
that
would
possible
for
any
of
any
of
you
have
considered
maybe
doing
a
preemptive
study
to
see
if
it
would.
That
would
apply
to
careful
in
the
same
way
and
if
it
does,
if
you
make
a
decision
from
there
or
if
that's
something
that
is
even
possible
to
if
you
can't
predict.
I
All
right
I
mean
that
study
was
done
after
and.