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We
have
to
consider
doing
something
more
than
just
a
straight
permit,
because
of
the
way
it
was
owned.
Now,
in
the
official
zoning
map
that
we
were
using
the
one
that's
available
online
due
to
street
names
and
other
lines
that
clouded
the
map,
we
couldn't
tell
what
land
use.
That
was,
we
assumed
it
to
be
commercial,
but
you
couldn't
tell,
and
so
it
might
have
been
residential.
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So
what
we
went
we
went
back
and
we
would
research
that
I
went
into
the
GIS
program
and
I
stripped
away
all
of
all
the
stuff
that
we
didn't
need
to
see,
and
lo
and
behold
that
one
lot
on
the
end
of
Bennett
drive
on
that
side
of
the
road
I
flipped
Posche
a
parcel
is
commercial,
so
it's
a
commercial
use
and
a
commercial
law,
so
his
deem
that
CEO
could
could
sign
off
on
that
permit
which
we
did
mr.
Lang
was
in.
They
would
took
care
of
it.
I
told
him.
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The
other
two
permits
were
building
permits
that
were
pending
for
271
for
Fairfield
Road,
so
the
communication
towers
on
the
hill,
basically
and
I
was
telling
a
story
before
we
started
this
evening.
That,
as
I
was
researching,
that
in
the
code
book
I
found
the
appropriate
section
to
read
down
about
3/4
of
the
page
down,
and
there
was
a
paragraph
I
read:
it
sounded
like
it
needed
to
come
to
planning
board.
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New
communication
says
we:
we
have
an
interest
in
a
possible
very
large
solar
array,
certainly
very
large,
for
this
part
of
the
world.
The
the
permit
has
not
been
delivered
yet.
Oddly
enough,
the
the
fee
for
the
for
the
permit
has
been
delivered
and
sitting
on
my
desk,
but
I
talked
to
one
of
the
principals
today
said,
he's
a
couple
little
details
on
the
permit.
He
wanted
to
fill
in
first
and
I
I.
Just
let
him
know
that
we
didn't
want
to
be
the
holdup.
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It's
it's
gonna
be
about
25
acres,
it
is
big,
spoke
to
him
today
we
did
another
building
permit
for
Troy
Haney
over
to
any
Building
Solutions
and
if
you
go
by
you'll,
see
that
he's
already
started.
Building
a
show
room
for
his
audition
forms
are
in
it
for
his
line
of
feed
and
seed.
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So
we've
been
working
a
lot
on
the
blight
initiative.
We've
met
several
times
now
we're
getting
to
the
point
where
we
have
a
list
of
tools
to
use
in
realizing
when
you
might
catch
up
some
people
that
we
really
didn't
want
to
catch
up.
In
this
whole
thing,
we
actually
have
a
list
of
services
that
would
help
people
if
they
for.
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If
someone's
Aging
in
place,
even
in
their
houses,
a
little
shabby,
it's
not
really
the
person
that
we
want
to
catch.
You
know
they're,
not
the
bad
guys,
really
they've
paid
their
taxes
all
these
years
and
they
just
need
a
little
help.
So
we
did
find
all
the
services
available
and
we
can
direct
them
to
the
proper
service
and
even
make
the
phone
call
for
him
if
that's
what
it
takes.
So
if
they
need
a
front
railing,
fixed
or
so
pain,
or
something
like
that,
we
can
direct
them
to
the
right
resource.
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Basically,
they
hired
a
person.
That's
been
working
in
his
son
apartment.
He
worked
at
Portland,
it's
worked
along
the
coast,
quite
a
bit
he's
the
one.
That's
literally
writing
the
book
about
this
land
banking
technique.
They
hired
him
to
help
set
up
the
land
bank
and
that
in
their
community
they've
since
then,
they've
acquired,
80
properties,
they've
demolished
25.
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So
we
do
all
our
due
diligence.
The
code
enforcement
officer
goes
out
and
does
his
inspections
to
create
a
report,
pictorial,
evidence
and
all
this,
and
then
it
comes
back
to
a
hearing.
There's
a
set,
so
the
City
Council
actually
conducts
the
hearing.
So
there
will
be
some
training
on
the
council
side.
The
council
would
take
training
or
a
counselor
or
take
training
because
it
has
to
be
a
certain
level.
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As
your
concern
George
judicial
prudence,
because
it
carries
the
same
weight
as
a
district
court,
the
issue
as
bad
as
is
all
these
are
civil
matters,
and
when
you
send
these,
the
core
they'll
sit
there
for
months,
because
the
Corp
system
is
just
so
jammed
up
with
cases
that
these
or
mine
are
in
their
mind,
civil
cases
don't
take
precedence
over
a
lot
of
other
cases.
So
it's
very
interested
still
learning
I've
been
given
the
contact
name
for
this
fellow
that
created
their
their
land
bank
and
will
follow
up
with
that
tomorrow.
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Right
in
so
an
old
mill
town,
basic
yeah,
and
what
happened
is
when
the
mills
went
away.
All
these
grand
old
houses
that
were
converted
over
to
apartments
to
house
these
mill
workers
were
empty
and
sold.
A
lot
of
these
buildings
went
to
disrepair
and
they
had
as
we
do
where
we
have
the
onesies
and
twosies
salted
throughout
the
whole
community.
They
had
that,
but
as
well
as
neighborhoods,
so
they've
really
gone
in,
and
he
said
it's
amazing
I
was
speaking
to
Steve
baack
he's
the
city
manager
down
there.
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He
said
it's
amazing
if
you
clean
up
a
couple
buildings
in
a
neighborhood,
the
whole
neighborhood
response,
sir
Isaac
comes
back
to
life
because
other
people
see
the
effort
and
they
put
the
effort
into
their
building.
So
it's
the
community
has
responded
to
this
I
think
there's
been
some
hiccups
because
the
now,
in
order
to
implement
their
land
bank,
they
saw
that
they
seeded
it
with
quarter
million
dollars,
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
start
in
the
fees
they
pay
for,
registering
all
these
apartments
and
rentals.
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So,
basically,
what's
going
on
department
by
department,
I
kind
of
thought,
this
would
be
sort
of
a
pain
to
do
every
week
on
a
Friday
started
out
with
this.
But
it
really
makes
you
sit
down
and
think
about
what
you
accomplished
during
the
week.
So
I've
kind
of
come
to
enjoy
that
you
know
you're
out
there
spinning
plates
and
trying
to
get
everything
done
and
stop.
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The
city
and
the
scope
of
our
work,
we
touch
a
lot
of
different
projects,
so
something
that
was
really
very
high
in
a
priority
scale
is
a
priority,
we'll
be
working
hard
on
that,
but
the
ones
that
didn't
rate
so
high
that
work
still
needs
to
be
done.
So
it's
not
like
it's
not
gonna
get
data,
but
it
just
just
doesn't
carry
the
way
to
some
other.
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Have
a
report
we'll
be
able
to
report
on
you
know
a
percentages
of
the
homes
and
how
we're
going
to
address
the
landowners
it
actually
started
on
that
a
little
bit
more
like
a
fishing
excursion
for
me,
instead
of
when
I'm,
following
up
on
my
notices
of
violation
them
I've
been
sending
out
a
nicer
letter
that
says
write
on
it.
It's
not
a
Notice
of
Violation,
but
you
know
cities,
bite
initiative
for
2020
and
what
it
means,
and
maybe
some
suggestions
on
how
to
take
care
of
the
issues
in
their
property.
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We
have
to
follow
up
with
them.
What
we're
seeing
and
part
of
the
issue
we're
seeing
is
that
we're
getting
our
notices
of
violations
to
where
they
need
to
go,
because
we're
worried
about
the
safety
of
these
buildings
and
the
welfare
of
the
families
that
live
there
and
so
forth,
however
they're
not
being
cured
so
so,
ultimately,
the
issue
should
be
taken.
Care
of
and
I
should
call
us
contact
the
city.
If
we
go
and
inspect
it
and
then
then
we
could
release
him
from
that
notice
of
violation
that.
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For
what
could
possibly
happen
there
on
this
site,
once
it's
cleaned
out
so
initially
they
always
thought
that
oh,
yes,
what
we
need
is
big,
big
box
stores
and
things
like
that,
but
what
we
found
that
people
really
want
is:
yes,
we
need
the
big
box
stores,
but
we
need
specialty
shops.
We
need
affordable
housing
and
maybe
some
common
areas
for
visible
parks,
so
I
tried
to
give
that
flavor
into
the
text
as
well.
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Have
one
zone
where
multi-family
housing
is
not
encouraged
in
another
where
it's
allowed
and
yet
as
I
understand
it,
and
yet
where
it
was
not
encouraged,
it
still
exists
so
well.
We
can
still
keep
the
different
to
two
different
residential
zones.
We
might
maybe
change
the
allowed
uses
in
those
zones
to
some
extent,
so
that
multifamily
won't
be
a
an
existing
bad
mark.
So
to
speak,.
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So
I
guess
that
has
to
do
with
large,
residential
or
residential
development
in
rural
area.
So
we're
not
really
seeing
those
large
developments
because
it
takes
so
much
land
be
able
to
do
utilities
in
a
rural
area.
So
I
don't
know
if
you'd
really
need
to
say
we're.
Gonna
limit
these
things,
I
just
I
just
thought
that
was
harsh
language
for.
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Well,
I
think
somewhere
along
the
line
we
need.
We
need
to
find
a
way
to
incur.
If
there
are
going
to
be
developers
to
come
in
and
develop
a
large
truck,
we
need
to
find
a
way
to
work
with
them
to
make
sure
that
what
they're
putting
in
utility,
wise
and
so
forth
is
is
amenable
to
what
the
city
can
service
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I,
don't
think
we
just
want
to
plop
out
some
less
a
fair
stuff
and
say:
okay,
everybody's
encouraged
to
do
everything,
because,
because
we
still
have
that
issue,
a
great
big
development
shows
up
way
out
there.
How's
it
going
to
be
serviced
somehow
needs
some
language
about
developers
needing
to
work
with
the
board
boards
to
make
sure
that
it's
compatible
with
our
long-range
plan
in
our
existing
abilities.
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Well,
some
of
the
impetus
for
well.
Let's
say
somebody
on
South
Main,
Street,
myself,
Main
Street
doesn't
exist.
Somebody
on
that
section
of
Main
Street
wants
to
feel
like
they're
part
of
the
downtown.
Then
maybe
they
need
to
do
something
about
looking
like
part
of
the
downtown
its
they
could.
I,
don't
know
what
the
what
the
real
answer
is,
but
they
could
do
something
to
make
people
think
of
them
as
part
of
downtown.
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Is
it
we
define
the
land,
use
we've
kind
of
talked
about
this
over
time?
First?
Is
they
sold
dr.
Tanya's
house?
Well,
so
that's
a
that's
a
grand
house
right
here
on
High
Street.
It's
always
been
residential
well
on
either
side
of
it,
it's
commercial
everything.
So
so
now
now
we
have
Mahoney's
real
estate,
they're
selling
their
billing
they're
retiring.
So
another
grand
old
house.
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It
shouldn't
because
really
it's
a
good
thing
that
I
have
have
a
pedestrian
friendly
neighborhood.
For
instance,
you
you
can
walk
from
dr.
dawn
use
house
to
the
grocery
store,
get
groceries
or
down
to
the
library
or
your
local
bank
right
around.
You
know
they
told
him
to
go
to
school
right
around
the
corner.
There's
nothing
wrong
with
that.
That's
matter
of
fact,
that's
nice!
That's
kind
of
a
norman
rockwell-like
village
right.
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Okay,
it's
like
having
a
tree
on
the
corner.
That's
been
going
for
hundred
years.
You
know
it
stopped
now,
but
but
we
have
those
those
same
examples
as
we
move
up
between
Street,
oh
sure,
so
we
get
past
the
courthouse
and
you
have
the
housing
complex,
so
careful
gardens,
and
then
you
have
some
multi-family
housing
and
then
it
moves
back
into
a
commercial
type
application
sometime
after
that,
once.
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Easy
to
find
all
the
pertinent
regulations
and
for
some
mineral
organization,
and
so
as
you
look
at
the
salty
ordinance
if
we
were
to
break
it
down
to
general
requirements,
administrative
things,
general
application
of
authorizations
powers,
dudes,
there's
a
slight
diet,
site
design
requirements.
If
the
new
development
happens,
these
are
specific
requirements
that
have
to
the
site
process.
I
There
are
some
specific
view
standards,
so
home
occupation
is
very
specific.
You
specific
standards
for
those
and
they
applied
to
wherever
or
chemists
telecommunications
facilities
cell
towers.
We
have
nuisance
regulations,
general
zoning
standards
and
definitions
of
what
the
zones
are
intended
for
the
zones
and
we
have
specific
building.
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And
so
what
I've
been
trying
to
do
target
is
yes,
that'll
fall
right,
I'm
gonna,
give
it
being
a
pro
while
I've
already
seen
this
fresh
Oh
prep
this
off,
so
you
can
have
it.
So
you
can
see,
basically,
is
take
existing
cards
and
try
to
these
distinct
categories
and
organized
that
the
document
tried
to
clean
up
inconsistencies.
Try
to
update
based
on
current
laws,
support
actions.
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Gently:
okay,
but
it's
already
in
there
somewhere
and
I,
haven't
changed
I,
anticipate
that
when
this
finding
counters
back
to
you
or
the
Council
for
auction
I'm
not
going
to
be
showing
a
complete
red
line,
strikeout
move
around.
But
that's
what
you're
going
to
be
looking
at
right
now
going
through
this
process.
What
eventually
goes
to
the
cleaned.
I
I
We
don't
have
to
close
in
the
future,
so
the
effective
date
that
they
see
charter
outlines
the
effective
date
performances
and
so
instead
of
creating.
Instead
of
saying
that
negative
is
adoption
they're
just
saying,
because
these
things
kind
of
change
over
time,
every
time
to
continue
to
do,
order
to
develop
them,
and
so
we're
just
going
to
simply
reference
the
city
charter
is
these
things
are
effective
based
on
public
charter
outlines
well
that
accomplished
with
other
walls.
There's
a
lot
of
language
in
here
number:
six
ordinances,
Shelby
interpreter
Facebook
value.
That's
a
good
thing!
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So
if
there's
something
in
there
that
right,
how
does
that
really
apply
in
this
case?
Probably
work?
The
planning
board?
You
can
say
this
was
the
intent
persistent.
We
should
interpret
that
and
apply
it.
In
this
case,
we've
been
made
to
go
through
the
documents,
our
six
remaining
minutes.
As
the
case,
we
need
to
make
some
tax
changes,
change
process.
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to
and
I
think
I
brought
this
up
last
time
we
talked
about
it.
Is
it
really
in
our
best
interest
to
charge
a
fee
for
somebody
for
the
only
other
entity?
That's
going
to
come
forward
other
than
this
council
or
the
Planning
Board
is
an
individual
or
a
company?
Do
we
really
want
to
charge
them
a
fee?
You
think
if
they
bring
forward
a
man
request
to.
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The
clarifying
news
there
is
that
were
wealthy
in
accordance
with
established
a
welcome
through
procedures.
So
somebody
comes
to
you
when
you
have
to
sign
off
on
a
cyclone,
but
we
know
that
they're
so
ability
for
me
to
tell
Stan
Harkavy
something
to
say
and
four
compartments
for
everything,
but
our
review
procedures.
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We
don't
generally
I,
don't
think
if
you
have
time
set
aside
at
the
planning
board
meeting
for
public
forum,
you
don't
have
people
submitting
their
forum
ideas
ahead
of
time,
we're
not
going
to
be
filtering
them.
So
if
something
comes
up,
if
something
comes
up
and
the
chair
or
members
decide
hey,
this
is
really
in
our
purview.
That's
when
we
can
say:
okay,
take
that
to.
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And
I
get
that
you've
gotta
have
that,
but
my
only
issue
is
making
sure
city
staff
is
fully
aware
of
which
area
to
go
for
public
for
because
everybody
City
care.
We
know
if
you
want
to
go,
speak
about
something
that
you
don't
like
and
care.
You
go
to
City
Council.
They
don't
come
here,
but
if
it's
a
Planning
Board
issuing
something
you
guys
can
solve
at
this
level,
then
they're
gonna
have
they're.
Gonna
have
more
of
an
easier
time
to
get
stuff
done.
If
they
come
here.
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You
can
choose
the
format
for
a
public
forum,
for
example,
if
we
showed
up-
and
there
was
20
people
here-
that
I
wanted
to
talk,
then
chairman
could
say:
okay,
everyone
set
two
minutes
right,
I
mean
it's
nothing,
that's
set
in
writing
no
yeah,
that's
right,
whole
streamlined
of
the
deal
right
and
that
that
is
their
only
shot
as
well.
Once
we
are
after
the
public
forum,
that's.
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That's
really
good
and
I
related
I
noticed
that
there
is
not
for
the
agendas,
there's
not
an
opportunity
for
us
as
a
body
to
accept
or
approve
the
agenda
every
week
or
every
month
that
we
do
this
and
I'm
wondering
that
it's
intended
to
happen
and
when
we
get
our
read
ahead
packages
or
whether
we
should
have
something
in
our
process
right
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
to
say,
here's
the
agenda
are
there
any
comments?
Objections
is
the
agenda
approve
I,.
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for
the
codification
process
or
the
panel
says,
that's
really
smart.
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But
it
allows
them
a
foothold,
because
they've
got
the
right
to
be
able
to
occupy
that
footprint
and
add
20
percent
to
the
size
good
house
there-
fish
hatchery
in
there,
so
the
students
are
working
on
that
concept
and
also
a
park
feature
along
the
river,
where
they're,
Patriots
Patriots
patrons
can
fly
fish
along
the
river
kind
of
a
cool
concept
and
it
really
kind
of
gives
us
a
toehold
on
our
concept.
Yes,.