Carroll County, MD Board of County Commissioners Open Sessions, 16 Jun 2022

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Okay june 16th thursday june 16th open session.

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For this morning, as we always do, let's uh take a moment for the pledge and a moment of.

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United states of silence and to the republic for which it stands.

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One nation, under god, indivisible with free and justice for all.

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Okay, let's uh jump right into uh priority carol, commissioner boucher on time.

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One moment please good morning, thank you, president rostein, uh mr swann. What do we.

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Have we have anything up here to produce? Oh there you go, we had the 50th anniversary celebration.

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Celebration for the career and technology center a couple weeks back, I thought I got photos up.

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It was a wonderful event. I want to take note and mention individual there tim blizzard, who is the.

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Instructor for the mechanical engineering program was a graduate of that program 50 years ago. The.

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First, graduating class: all here is commissioner fraser, and I are some of the volunteers.

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It was interesting to see all those people throughout their lives still recognize the.

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Importance of the career and technology center and it's important that we perpetuate that into the.

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Future it was nice seeing all that alumni come together and realize how important the career.

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And technology center is to the county and I'm very proud to be involved in the expansion that.

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Facility during my term, I think, is one of the most important things we have done in this board.

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To invest in our our youth and into the economic development of our county.

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What else do we have? Mr sween? We have anything. Oh here we go. Let me read this off.

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This is from director jeff daggetts of recreation parks. This is a very heartwarming story. Give me.

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A minute to read this off for this young lady program coordinator, tina, schupp and ellie maxwell.

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Are making a difference? Tina coaches, ellie maxwell on archery through the department of recreation.

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And parks and ellie was selected at a recent national tournament to receive an award called.

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On target for life, this is a national recognition selected from applicants from all over the world.

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Not just the usa ellie's award is for courage. She was born with spina, bifida and walks with arm.

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Crutches and uses a wheelchair when necessary. She is an amazing not only for her courage but in life.

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But for continued support of being a good archer, teammate and example to others, the courage award.

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Is an individual award for students who have overcome a major life event or disability.

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That continues to inspire others through their participation and includes a 500 scholarship.

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Congratulations to ellie maxwell for receiving this prestigious award and special recognition.

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To tina shupe in recreation parks for instruction in the department, archery program.

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This is very heartwarming and I'm so grateful for director daggetts to bring this to our attention.

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To share with the public, so thank you very much and I believe that's it for me. Thank you very much.

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That's pretty powerful thanks, um commissioner frazier.

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All right, I thought you were the weaver next, but okay, okay, first, I want to talk about. Is the torch run? I think there's a picture for that. Coming up.

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Not a picture but okay, all right there we go torch, run.

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It's a law enforcement torch run for the special olympics it was uh yesterday. I was.

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Fortunate enough to be down there, uh the guy on the red shirt looks really good. Anyway, I'm forced.

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Out to be down here and read the proclamation commissioner wentz was there as well. I understand.

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He took his car, but he didn't, but that's okay, steve, it's okay, everyone else either ran or biked.

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In or something like that, but steve drove in, but it was worth it just to have you there was. It was.

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Worth it exactly, however, I got there: oh there you see there. I am right there proof you were there.

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Anyway, it's for special olympics, it's for the development developmentally disabled students.

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So to compete in olympic uh sports olympic types of sports, and uh it's not just a one.

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Day thing they have year-round sports going on so that these uh young men and women can compete in.

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So it's well worth it our our as our as you see our law enforcement uh participates in. It is.

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Worldwide, now it's just worldwide, it's everywhere, which is really good.

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All right is that fountain turned off. It was turned off for the ceremony.

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And it's off now too, I thought they were turning it back on. Well, they did, but apparently it's.

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It's down again, I don't know. What's going on out of water, the fountains.

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I'm very concerned about the fountains phone call why sidetrack them? Thank you. So much.

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Absolutely no reason. Thank you, mr burke, nothing from the peanut gallery. I thought it was just.

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Offered for the ceremony, because they wouldn't distract from me speaking mr frazier, please all.

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Right, we also have the retiring at the flag ceremony. It was at the farm museum.

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Commissioner uh weaver and commissioner rostein intended that it with me as well.

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I guess there's no pictures for that one anyway, you take the the flags.

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uh That were worn and torn and so forth and uh boy scout trooper. I think it was 393. Was there.

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um There we go it's a great picture and anyway we they take the and they they retire. The flags.

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As they should be retired, so that's always a great event. I always enjoy going there.

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The auction had nothing to do with it. That's jack. All right jack is the oxen okay, the big horns.

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All right, um I was also at the therapeutic recreation and flag day event at the farm museum.

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Earlier in that day, uh where they have the um people from the arc and and other agencies around.

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Go in there's a lot of uh information for them and and some activities as well. They had corn.

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Hole and stuff like that going on, so it was it's a good good day. It was a good morning and it was.

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Cool in the morning, so it wasn't one of those really oppressive kind of heat hot day. So it's.

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A little easier for everyone to get around and do things so that was really good. Also was that.

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There's christian weavers all right action photo that is yeah that fire was hot. It was.

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They usually are yeah. I was going to say it's one of the benefits of fire.

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Okay, us also at the ellsworth cemetery um this past weekend, where they put nine uh tombstones.

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Or gravestones in for veterans uh of of past wars, one of them, I think, seven were from the civil war.

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And two were from the first world war and it was a really nice ceremony. They had uh uh peop a small.

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Band near playing some music, they played taps, they did some other things. They had a little booklet.

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Put out with the names of everyone that got the new tombstones and what they had no word: what war.

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They participated in and something about them, so it was really a good thing and the organization.

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That did this provides tombstone tombstones for veterans that don't have them, so this was provided.

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Free of cost to this to the to the cemetery and they and actually provide tombstones for any.

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Veteran from this country all over the world, so it will- and I don't remember, naming an organization.

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And we also had the virtual meeting with senator cardin, which I thought went.

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Really well, commissioner, um weaver and ross team were both in on that meeting. If I recall- and we.

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Got some good back and forth about you know carroll county, and you know how the federal.

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Government and so forth, and some updates from uh from from from the senator and that's all I have.

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Yeah we were able to provide him priorities and see where we can go with funding.

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You know right so yeah, uh commissioner weaver. Okay, I want, I guess, go back to the parks and recreation.

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Therapeutic opportunities that was a nice morning, I think chris, has a couple pictures here to put up.

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uh If he comes up yeah, uh you know all the agencies.

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Come in and find out what's available to them as far as parks and rec did a great job here,.

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And I think we have a one good picture here. If I have it: yes, jeff daggett's working.

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Yes was the uh food they were providing for all the people who came and really.

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Jeff had a good job here, handing plates out and.

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Helping uh with the rolls they didn't name near the real food, so.

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Anyway, as his gloves on doing it right, but he really really good job and jeff to your staff.

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Thank him. They did a fantastic job of providing all kind of information to people there and.

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Commissioner fraser and I had a chance to walk around look at those and then, as said.

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In the afternoon evening we did have the flag retirement and, while jim and jack were on, there.

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I took my grandchildren along so they could see how to properly retire flag and they were kind.

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Enough to at least let them look at the oxen and goats out there and uh and see what's going on so.

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Yeah uh scott going out of his way to catch uh jack and bring him up, and you know, commissioner,.

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Osteen needs to be uh educated in this too so uh enjoyment of being a pop-pop right, yep yep.

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That's exactly it so: uh the the retirement uh flags, the boy scout troop, has really grown.

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Yeah, I couldn't believe the size of that troop compared to where it was they. I think, 40. Some.

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uh Young people in this so uh they've really done a great job of uh uh getting the troop.

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Together on this, so that was good and one other thing: uh senator cardin's office, the virtual.

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uh Meeting was was good, but um you know the veterans uh celebration, senator cardin van.

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Hollen both sent their aides out to that event, both have been attending and will be attending.

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The veterans advisory council meetings, they were impressed with carroll county and what we're.

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Doing, apparently, we're getting some recognition at that level on what's happening out here so.

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More good stuff to come from those offices, I do believe- and it's also they're allocating about.

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120 million dollars to the veterans home in county, but which is a good thing, um uh commissioner, lance.

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Okay, good morning, a couple things uh last week, I was with the mako board of directors.

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uh For their annual retreat- and uh it was uh it's always good- to interact with.

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Your colleagues from across the state, especially after budget season, it was.

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Interesting to hear some of the stories etc, but uh the retreat was really good.

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uh And it was kind of timely because I understand y'all passed a.

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Traffic study here or traffic safety plan last week and we had a presentation at the retreat from.

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The vision, zero folks, uh which is in layman's terms the attempt to try to get to a point in the.

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State where there are no traffic fatalities at all, so many of the counties are participating in that.

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And I know carol with their traffic safety plan uh is, is right in line with that, we.

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Also discussed, affordable housing challenges and opportunities had a presentation on that.

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Which is also timely because, as we get through the ag uh rezoning uh we're going to be talking about.

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Adus and we talked about those a lot at the state level, so dick I know you were involved.

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In that so more to come on, that was good to hear about what's happening at the state level. There.

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We also took a tour of the st michael's wastewater treatment plant and, while that.

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Might not sound exciting it's interesting to learn how at sea level they deal with this. We.

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Deal with it in one way, but when you're at sea level, dealing with wastewater and and waste is.

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Really challenging doesn't the title like that or something and it's it's amazing, because they.

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Have to be really really careful of where they put the pipes in etc. uh Pipes have a tendency to.

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Float to the top- and uh it was all followed, very interesting presentation and tour, and um we we.

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Learned a lot there and then, most importantly, since I saw uh mr o'neal just walked in.

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We had a really good presentation on the blueprint, accountability, implementation board.

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Which, again in layman's terms, is the group that they put together under governor hogan? That's.

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Going to hold accountable the blueprint for education funding, that's coming to all of the.

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The counties- and we actually were up close and personal with with the chair of that group and.

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Another young lady who's representing uh that group as well and had some really good one-on-one.

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Time with them and uh that that's going to be very important uh moving forward and I'm going to try.

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To pass as much of that on, as I can uh in the next six months, so that whoever he is seated here next.

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uh Will be able to watch that, but that's going to be very important coming down the road so kudos.

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Again to mako you've all heard me say this before uh the the the working relationship that we have.

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And the things that they accomplish there are second to none and I certainly hope uh the next.

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Group that comes in here uh realizes that the next mako event will be the summer conference.

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August 17th through the 20th, and I think most of us are planning to attend that and the.

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The uh agenda for that is incredibly impressive, so we look forward to that.

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Attended the carroll community college board meeting, uh they adopted their budget last night.

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And uh we were thanked uh many many times because the majority of us.

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Did realize some good additions over there for the college and uh they're very thankful.

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And they're very aware of who the majority was, and um they were able to realize a really good.

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Pay raise for their staff, which has been sorely needed and they're very grateful for.

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Everything that this uh the majority of this board did for the college and again uh the college.

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When I was down at the baltimore metropolitan council annual meeting.

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Received an award uh carroll community college, so they continued to impress over there.

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So they did, they also uh passed their diversity, equity and inclusion action improvement plan. Last.

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Night, uh what a breath of fresh air and I'm just going to leave it at that without getting into a.

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Political debate about what has been going on in this county, uh but uh I've applaud the college.

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For their uh for for them, working on that uh that's good stuff going on, uh we had our joint.

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Meeting with esac last night, that was really good. It's good to keep that communication open, because.

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As many of you know, and I've been saying this for seven and a half years now we're finally.

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To a point where we're seeing the realization of surgically infusing career people into our.

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Volunteer stations and it's not going to be easy and we're already seeing some of those bumps in.

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The road I applaud, everyone kim's in the room hr's been working incredibly hard on that and.

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I know it's been a challenge for her and her group. It's a challenge for everybody, because this is new.

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It's a challenge from the budget because again we had to pass a budget realizing. We.

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Were creating a brand new department which kind of got lost in the in the political.

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Stuff that we were hearing from some people, uh so we made we made a lot of great.

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Progress here in this county by realizing that new department so more to come on that, and I very much.

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Look forward to that and I thank everybody on esac. They gave us our strategic, their strategic plan.

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Last night, very impressive that was put together by over 70 volunteers. Let's not forget that word.

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uh Father's day, happy father's day to everybody, that's sunday and summer officially begins this.

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Weekend, uh which brings many challenges when it comes to safety and here's my public safety.

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Message for the day make sure you have your head on a swivel from swimming pools to highway safety.

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Etc, you've got to make sure that we get through this this season uh without any major incidents.

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And I hope that that's the case and I will leave it at that. Thank you and sunscreen on the head.

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Just saying we'll wear a hat.

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Yeah, I thought the exact meeting was very productive and uh you know giving a person.

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And a group, a purpose is kind of what I felt and it was good dialogue um the flag day. Another.

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uh Name for flag day, while not another name for flag day but another occurrence during flag day.

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Is the birthday of the senior service which is the united states army? It was the 247th birthday.

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Of the united states army so happy belated birthday to my brothers and sisters in green.

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Do you have a a picture for me uh chris? I was humbled and honored there. It is uh eagle scout.

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Ben bergamashi um did some work over at piney uh to receive his eagle scout he's only 16 years old.

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And typically, we see 17 18 year olds he's coming out of a winfield troupe and we did it over at st.

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Joe's in um in eldersburg and the place was packed, and it just it was. It was really an honor to.

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To read a proclamation and just uh hear his story and share, you know some stories amongst all those.

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In attendance, um so congratulations again to uh benton or or goes by ben.

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Like I think dick you've said it before, it'd be really cool to get these type of pictures in the.

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Paper, you know and get these type of honors uh of eagle scouts. We just we do it right. You know with.

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The amount of eagle scouts that this county produces and this community has.

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And then on a a somber note sunday note sunday night. Excuse me uh a.

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Sheriff's deputy was shot and killed down in wacomaco.

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Glenn, hillman and uh or excuse me, hillyard, glenn, hilliard and just.

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Hoping that his memories are a blessing to his family and the community that he served.

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So gallantly- and you know doing his job in uniform, so you know just keep him and those.

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That put themselves in harm's way willingly uh wake up go to work thanks. I know you had that and.

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Don't know what's going to happen throughout that day. So um again our hearts are out to.

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Wakomaco community for losing uh this fine gentleman, who was, I believe, a 10-year veteran.

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On the force he was, I happened to be down there uh when that occurred. Sadly- and uh I did reach.

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Out to icomico as a commissioner in carroll, since I was kind of around the corner when you're on.

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The shore you're kind of around the corner from everything and gave our condolences from carol.

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Thanks, yeah, frustrating okay without any further ado, let's move right into item number one.

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With the renewal of the mou between carroll county commissioners and maryland, classified employees.

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Association, corporate chapter 550 miss frock. What do you have to say to us.

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Hope all is well today, um okay, so every two years we bring this contract to the board for signature.

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um We're renewing our memorandum of understanding with maryland classified employees, association.

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We have been with them since april of 1973.

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They provide representation for all eligible employees of carroll county commissioners.

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Who are members? Currently we have one member. So it's just one person at this point.

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But it is, we certainly tell the new employees that it's available to them. If they're interested.

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And it's their choice if they want to to join, we provide payroll deduction for the.

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Dues and other member benefits and chapter officers obviously would have time off. I.

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Don't believe we have any chapter officers here, because we only have one person in.

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So that's it one member one used to have two, as I recall, right, yep yeah, now we're down to one okay.

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I mean is her reason not to do this and we knew this. um I mean you never know if new employees.

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Will sign on benefit for it? It's never been something that county employees have a lot of.

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County employees have done so, but they have the option if they want to correct right so I'll make.

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The motion of the board of commissions approve and sign an mou between county commissioners.

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Of carroll county and maryland classified employees, association incorporated chapter 550.

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Second, okay: I have a motion second, and is there any discussion on this in here? None all in favor.

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All right, okay, I'll get to the contractor for signature. Okay, let's talk about the fy 22.

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Operation operating budget transfer, 22 tax 01 for the carroll county, public schools, mr o'neill good.

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Morning, good morning, good morning, gentlemen and lady and happy summer, our summer began on tuesday.

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At least until summer school starts on july 11., um so you have, I think, two action items before.

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You for consideration from the last board of ed meeting. One is kind of the the standard year-end.

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Transfer among the major budget categories that we bring about this time every year. So when we.

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Finish out the fiscal year, we have a little bit of savings in one of the major categories and some.

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Needs in others we have to have those categories aligned to to round out the fiscal year. So that's.

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What the budget transfer is about? There's there's not really anything too unique on this year's.

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Versus prior years, at least not in my estimation and then secondly- and this is this- one is a little.

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Bit unique: we have a budget adjustment for the food service operating budget and food services is.

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For us is a bit like an enterprise fund, it's a self-funded program in our school system and you.

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Know they rely on sales, but also on federal reimbursement for um meals, historically or.

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Typically, under the free and reduced meals program. But as you're aware in the last couple of years.

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During the pandemic, the federal government had relaxed the restrictions on meals being served.

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To allow all children of school age in the communities to receive free meals, and so we.

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Served a lot of free meals through the help of not only our hard-working food service. Folks.

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But a lot of people who volunteered to be part of that meal service process during those times.

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And and we get reimbursed from the federal government for every meal served, so we have a.

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Significant but unique budget adjustment into the food services program.

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Those regulations expired a few days ago really, and I I don't have anticipation that.

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It doesn't appear to me that the feds are going to look at reinstituting, that that relaxation.

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Going forward so it seems like going forward, will be back to normal, but this adjustment reflects.

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That period of time, when those regulations were relaxed, that's probably enough so I'll pause. Okay.

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Mr o'neill, for the public to understand why it's the boe budget and you're coming here: can you give.

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A brief description of why you have to do this for the public to understand sure under under maryland.

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Education law, the county commissioners, have to approve every county, not just carroll. Every.

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County's commissioners or council has to approve the board of education's operating budget by the.

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Major categories that are defined for for every school system in maryland or every border that in.

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Maryland under state law, there's about a dozen or so major categories and then anytime during a year.

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That the board of ed needs to make a transfer among those major categories or an adjustment.

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Which would be an increase or decrease to one of those categories? You have one of each of those.

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Things in front of you today, those transfers or adjustments between categories or adjustments to.

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A category have to be approved by the board of ed and then within 30 days, submitted to the county.

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Authority for you to consider and approve, as well all under the state education article. There you go.

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Okay, I'll move the board of commissioners approve operating budget adjustment 22-01 for the board.

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Of education, fy, 22 operating fund budget; second, a motion. Second, for the first action, any questions.

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In here, none all in favor, aye, aye and I'll make the motion board of commissioners approve.

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Food services, budget adjustment, 22-01 for the board of education, fy 22 food services.

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Fund budget. Second, okay: I got a motion. I got a second regarding food services, fun budget, any.

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Questions comments all in favor all right: okay, just one quick question: sure fuel prices.

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They are probably wreaking havoc on your budget. I would think if, if you were to dissect the.

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Categorical changes, one of the one of the major categories that came in under was transportation.

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um That's partly due to the increase in diesel fuel for most of the year, and partly because the.

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Board of ed made some retroactive pay changes knowingly made some retroactive pay changes for.

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Bus drivers and assistance back to january 5th, but good good question good point. Commissioner.

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We are budgeted for fiscal 23 at 350 per gallon for diesel and, as you know, diesel is significantly.

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Higher than that now the the good news there other than hope that inflation become under control.

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Is that in the board of ed's um fund balance policy, there's a provision written in the board.

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Of ed's policy that we set aside or we sort of pre-allocate a percentage of of the fund balance.

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To cover overages in health care like if we had a call fuel, which is mainly for transportation, so.

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In a given year that doesn't cause me a tremendous amount of heartburn, because the.

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Fund balance is there to to to be able to cover whatever that overage would be. We we do reimburse.

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Our bus contractors, we pay our bus contractors on an annual formula and most of those numbers.

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Are set for the year fuel, however, we we reimburse them almost in real time. We take a fuel survey.

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Every two weeks and pay them the going rate. So if we need to cover that next year, we can.

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And then we can look at budgeting differently for the for any help from the state on this or.

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A little bit there's a portion of state funding for transportation. There was a time historically.

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A long time ago, where the state paid for all transportation for what we would call regular.

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Ed transportation, there's a small amount for special ed transportation, a bit more.

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But this is mostly a locally born cost. Okay, thank you sure thanks, thank you. Guys have a.

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Have a great summer absolutely thanks! John okay, we're going to uh skip item 4 for a second or for.

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A few minutes, the civil war heritage, um because we're expecting a couple of outsiders: let's go to.

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Fy 2023 program, open space allocation and two municipalities and as jeff's coming up to the.

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Table I have a very important time, sensitive um announcement that I have to make the fountain.

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Is on I'm gonna, go, look, you cannot. Should we all like take a pause and read, I think.

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I think we need a moment of silence or something a fountain. Thank you very much a moment of gratitude.

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I feel differently now I think we should stand up and applaud our facilities. The sunscreen.

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I feel like I should come back another day now. I can't possibly match that shadow. No.

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You can't it's going to be tough, but go ahead, go ahead and try municipalities open space. Yes,.

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Every year we take 25 of our program open space funds that we receive as carroll county.

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And we dedicate them for municipal projects and then also each year of the eight municipalities.

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They take turns four typically are funded one year. The other four would receive funds the next year.

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This year, the twenty five percent figure of the pos funding is five hundred and fifty four.

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Thousand seven hundred and fifty dollars and for the people at home. I know you have this in front.

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Of you I'll go through the projects very quickly. Hampstead is requesting funding for sugar maple.

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Park upgrades- and this will include an obstacle course playground and a family picnic area.

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And all of the dollar amounts for each of the towns will be the same. 138 687.

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The town of manchester has requested funding for some athletic field. Lighting upgrades at.

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Christmas tree park: that's a park, that's used very extensively by our north carol, rec council.

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The town of mount airy has requested funding for replacement playground equipment at summit ridge.

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Park and the town of sykesville got the same amount of money. However, they elected to split.

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It for two projects: one is rehabilitation of a pedestrian bridge at millard cooper park, that'll.

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Be ninety thousand dollars and then sykesville linear trail rehabilitation would be forty. Eight.

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Thousand six hundred and eighty seven dollars, so what we are requesting from the board is.

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These projects have been recommended by the local chapter of the maryland municipal league.

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We would like to include them, along with our county projects in our program, open space.

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Annual report, however, we need your approval in order to include those in there. I'd be happy to.

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Answer any questions that you may have about the projects I was: where is linear trail at.

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That runs from obrecht road and it goes all the way down to the patapsco river.

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Well, I move that the board of county commissioners approved a recommendation of the local chapter.

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Of the mayoral municipal league for fy23 municipal program, open space projects; second,.

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Okay, I have a motion in a second I'm yeah. I was gonna. Also ask the linear trail. It's off of spout.

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Hill, it's on one side or the other going down from obrecht. I'm trying to picture where spout hill is.

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uh It's about how the the church yeah up on the hill. It goes and then goes straight down.

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I believe it's near there, but yeah it would have to be if it goes from obrecht to tabsco.

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Okay, I'll take a look at it. It's cool because it'd be good for a running trail. Okay, I do.

C

Have a question the obstacle course do you know what what kind of what that is for adults, kids,.

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Anybody here I am assuming it is primarily for youth with the town projects, we're not.

K

Directly involved with the selection of them yeah, I know I just said I I don't have more detailed.

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Information then I have to go check it out, you're not going to like push people out of the way.

K

Obstacle courses, we do not what I was kidding. I think that might.

B

Need to be rectified in the future. We may have missed an opportunity, because.

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I'm sensing that we would have had a very strong advocate for it.

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Okay: okay, do we hear a motion in a second okay, any more discussion on this scene here.

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None all in favor all right. Okay, thank you very much uh jenny. When you come on.

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Up we're going to talk about the execution of supplemental bond resolution item number six.

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Good morning, commissioners, good morning, I'm here I don't have any obstacle courses or anything to.

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Talk about exciting so um we're before you this morning with a resolution to reallocate prior.

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Issued bonds on october 17 2019 the county issued bonds to acquire funding necessary.

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To pay for various capital projects as part of that process, the board adopted a resolution number.

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1048-219-2019 excuse me, which formally authorized the issuance of bonds and declared categories.

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Of projects for the application of bond proceeds, the county has 18 months from that date to spend.

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The remaining amount of bond money bomb money is required to remain in those categories.

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Category examples: education, public safety, public works- are the examples.

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At the time of issuance and that's what's adopted in the original resolution,.

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If the county would like to move the money between those categories, then we have to come back before.

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You and create another resolution, that's what this is doing um from those bonds. We are.

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And basically, those bonds were issued prior to the pandemic, so some of the projects had to.

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Halt, so what we're requesting you to do is to adopt this resolution, which would allow.

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Us to move money from certain projects and categories general government, public safety.

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Onto some education projects that had spent or has already spent during that 18-month window,.

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So, subsequent to the issuance of the bonds prior to 18 months from the date of the expenditure, so.

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We had our bond council, mr bill hen and david gregory review. They from shelton mckennan hen and.

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They prepared the resolution, we had tim review it for legal sufficiency, so I am requesting that the.

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Board move to adopt the resolution to reallocate prior bond proceeds as presented in the resolution.

B

Well, I think that was a wonderful explanation. Thank you, and I want to congratulate you on your.

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Appointment as controller, if I'm not mistaken, you might be the first female comptroller in.

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The history of carroll county. Thank you very much. I think that brings us up to four female.

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Administrators in our administration, I think that's a wonderful thing, so thank you very much.

L

Well, thank you, and I'm also thoroughly impressed with being informed that you're doing some.

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Reform or revision of how to help people with pain or delinquent taxes, creating a form.

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I, like the initiative and how progressive you are in thinking that and helping people out.

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Your breath of fresh air, and thank you very much thank you and I'd like to thank the whole board.

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For appointing me to this position, I'm looking forward to working with you guys more with and.

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With that, I moved the board of commissioners to adopt the revolut the resolution to reality. We.

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Prior bond proceeds as presented by the bond council. Second, I have a motion. I have a second.

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Any further conversation other than it would be, it would have been nice to see the details of.

E

What's getting moved to where I can tell you that so it's two projects, it's moving from union mills.

L

The water wheel or the shaft wheel, I don't have all the details and the public safety.

L

Training center is moving from those two which general government and public safety.

L

Are the two categories and it's being moved to education to the career and tech, okay project? So.

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That's where we're moving it from okay, good question: okay, any further questions or discussion.

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Just let you know any conversations about forms and stuff is still unclear and further.

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Information will be provided to the public when it's available, all in favor aye, aye.

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Thank you. Thank you. We're still waiting aren't we. We are um that's. Okay,.

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Let's see what we can achieve, is there anybody out in the hall by chance.

C

uh Guys not to be so efficient this morning. Well, you told me.

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um Mike's not here so yeah, there's the stuff.

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Anybody else you might be on hold, so the visa people aren't here for the next item and.

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Michael's, not here here comes jim, get inclusive. We just deny them if they're not here and go on.

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We'll wait on one more okay.

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What's that the main presenter, yeah, okay, um jim, looks good, but that's not liz.

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Well, I can, but I'm just.

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Relief pitcher.

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uh Roberta, can you let folks know right, we yep, they are.

E

um In the meantime, I would suggest we take a minute to go over and look at the fountain.

E

It's just an eye out or something it's just an idea. I don't know.

E

You you're more than welcome I'd like to join me at the window to look at the fountains.

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You're more than welcome is it that impressive that looks really good. Thank you.

E

um Cheers to the fountain, we can go to agendas, so what we can do is. uh Is there anything.

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Going to be happening right now for open admin. Does anybody have anything we could.

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Go we could, I do have uh close minutes, I need approval of from. uh I was going to go out june.

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uh If we take a look, there's uh three of us uh in attendance on the june 9th uh minutes for.

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Land acquisition.

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That's right I'll make a motion to approve the minutes from the closed meeting.

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Of uh june 9th for made for lan acquisition, second.

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Okay, I got a motion. I got a second just as a point of order. I don't think you said that second one.

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You were attending okay. Thank you just want to make that clear. You guys. I appreciate thanks.

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For catching that I was a bit confused. Okay, I got a motion. I got a second all in favor, aye.

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Yes, yeah. Okay, you can go look at the fountain if you want okay.

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Is there one here, okay, so who do we have here? We have something we can.

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Run with maureen, what are you doing? Are you doing something with marine chris.

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Open admin uh I'll be absent again next week be attending the maryland state fire association.

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That's right uh convention, which is going to be interesting this year because there's a.

E

There's there's a what could be a very challenging vote on the floor uh down there, which I guess is.

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A sign of the times where they are attempting to change the name of the carroll county farm carroll.

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County maryland state firemen's association, maryland state firefighters, association.

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It's been identified that there are three female fire chiefs.

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In jurisdictions around the state- and they look upon it as being.

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Just a an upgrade, if you will to the to the years of tradition, so it's.

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It's it's it's. uh It's gonna, be a challenging debate, because the the folks that are entrenched.

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There are not in agreement with that, so it's going to be interesting to be a part of.

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That conversation, part of that debate, the the heritage and call I'll be in the back row, not.

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Responding to the debate but I'll be watching the debate. It'll yeah it's and it's tough.

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Because they're, when you're steeped, with years of tradition uh it you know, there's a lot to be said.

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For that, but there's also a lot to be said for moving forward moving forward. So we'll see where.

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That goes, but that um that starts uh on sunday with a memorial service, which is always very.

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Moving to pay tribute to those first responders who are passed away in the last year and then.

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It goes through thursday culminates with a with a rather large parade down there, which is led by.

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The westminster municipal band every year it is right, yeah, so mml is this week. Yeah! That's next.

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Week and I think mml's done right, yeah mml wrapped up yesterday yeah because uh governor hogan gave.

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The keynote on tuesday yeah, so, okay, I think we have enough, we don't have. I can keep going on.

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About if you want to open that, that's okay, I mean I got other stuff. If you want I'm going to start.

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With I can ramble if you'd like, let's start with mr ripper, okay, okay uh item number one: you come on.

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Up here, item 10 annual maintenance and support renewal for the carroll county public network.

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Morning, commissioners, um I am here today to get approval for the annual maintenance and.

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Support to skyline technology services, um this maintenance covers all what we call all the.

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Edge devices they are the devices at each of the locations that connects them out to the internet.

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um The money is in the fiber budget, um the original cost of the equipment was.

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One million seventy three thousand five hundred and fifty dollars on the maintenance this year.

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uh Still fairly reasonable at eighty three thousand three hundred and forty.

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Six dollars and ninety eight cents have any questions. Maureen did you have anything to say.

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Always always the one at the end.

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Not really, it was just that we did, um it is the renewal and that it is with skyline who.

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um Actually is a term contractor of ours, so, um as mark said, um this is for the annual maintenance.

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And support right right, okay, so and that's 24 7.. So if any of the devices go down at any point in.

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Time, they're on it to get them back up and running against the connection. This is for maintenance of.

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The edge devices or replacement it cover, if, if there is an issue with the device that covers.

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The cost of the okay, it's just another example of the cost of technology. The maintenance of it is.

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Really eats into our budget there's no way around it. I make the most of the board of commissions to.

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Prove to annual maintenance and support to skyline technology solutions in the amount of 83 346.98.

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For the carroll county public network equipment, second, I have a motion of a second. This is within.

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Our budget, this is not additional funds coming from it's it's, it was approved.

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In the budget? Yes, yes, yes, so we have already approved okay, okay, all in favor.

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Thank you, and now, let's uh I can do the next one too, commissioner, if you're like.

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Oh I'm slow down a second, let's talk about uh and you will okay courtsmart support services, maureen.

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Would you like to say thank you, we are requesting your approval for the purchase of the digital.

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Recording system support services for the existing system at the court to court. Smart digital systems.

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In the amount of forty five thousand eight hundred eighty nine dollars and seventy six cents, this.

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Expenditure is fy, twenty three budget approval and no additional monies should be needed and.

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Mark can answer your questions and basically it is the entire system that both the circuit.

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That circuit court that we support uses, but also most circuit courts and district courts.

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In the state of maryland, use this it records all of the cases that come before the courts.

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Is there a shared cost here because of the fact that it is state court or is it all on.

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Us for the circuit court of maryland, it's all on us for the district court. We don't.

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Have anything to do with him here in carroll county christine, don't know why state law.

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It's state law yeah that we're responsible for supporting, providing a lot of stated indexes. The.

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Board of elections, the circuit court, cooperative extension, it's just it's! It's interesting to note.

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When we, you know, we just came out of the budget, and we we talked a lot about what the state does.

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And what the state doesn't do- and this is one of those things that kind of goes under the radar.

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We do it all for circuit court when it comes to this and we get no assistance.

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At all in the state of maryland, none that I'm aware of commissioner okay, interesting. I made the.

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Board of commissioners, I apologize go ahead, no, no! No I'm sure it is with all jurisdictions, but it's.

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It it's it's a very important point to be noted. Thank you for making it yeah.

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Go ahead, I started once I moved. The board of commissioners approved the purchase of digital.

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Recording system support services for the existing system to court. Smart digital systems, the amount.

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Forty five thousand eighty nine dollars and seventy six cents. Second, I have a motion. I have.

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A second any discussion on this all in favor all right, honest, okay, reluctantly, I no I got you thank.

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You thank you mark. Thank you. Thank you thanks and thanks maureen. I know you're not going very far.

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Let's go back to uh item four in the carroll county, heart of the civil war heritage.

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Area boundary adjustment all right, ladies good morning, commissioners, uh thank you for your.

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Patience this morning- and here with me today, I have liz chateau, who is the executive director.

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Of the heart of the civil war heritage area, as well as a governing board member kristen mcmasters.

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And also advisory council member james shriver are here today in support of this boundary amendment.

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And then jeff degetts, the director of recreation and parks, is here today as.

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Well, because part of this boundary amendment is dealing with a future project for the county.

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So with that, I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to liz to go ahead and also introduce who.

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Are not here today, but the other advisory council members as part of carroll county.

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Yes, so um thank you all so much. I appreciate this opportunity to give a bit of an.

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Update about the heritage area- and I noticed that jack lyburn, who actually is one of our.

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Founding board members also joined us and, and you see on the screen on that jack.

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Christian mcmasters and richard turner from carroll county all are part of the leadership.

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Of our board and then we also have our advisory committee, which offers technical expertise and.

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That includes kathy beatty from the historical society linda eisenberg, andrea, gerhardt, who's with.

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Planning for the city of westminster, I'm jim schreiber, from union mills who's with us today.

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And then bonnie staub, our tourism director, your tourism director, so we're delighted to have them.

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um So I'm going to quickly give you an overview of our activity in carroll county and then.

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Linda and jeff will describe the amendment to the heritage area boundary. That's now sought.

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In late 2020, an impact study was released by the maryland heritage areas authority and using.

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2019 data: this is the annual economic contribution associated with the heart.

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Of the civil war heritage area, and not only is this result impressive, but it's pre-pandemic.

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So it gives us a good baseline as we resume something closer to normal heritage. Tourism.

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If you want to give us a new slide, grants may be the most high profile benefit of being included.

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In the boundaries of a certified maryland heritage area being included in our boundaries,.

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Is the only way that nonprofits and government entities may apply for.

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Maryland heritage area grants and this slide shows the average number of grants applied for.

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And granted uh the the one on the that you see here um to each of maryland's certified.

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Heritage areas between the fiscal years of 2018 and 2022, so you you see that our heritage area.

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Appears there at the far left, with the greatest number of grants applied for and received out.

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Of the 13 certified heritage areas, if you continue thanks- and we are proud to say that.

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Over 500 thousand dollars in in grants, including many grants that we administer locally, have been.

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Invested in carroll county and keep in mind that these grants require matching dollar for dollar.

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Non-State investment, the work undertaken by these grants, contributes to that impressive impact of.

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Jobs created and sustained tax revenue and visitor spending in our communities.

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Now, in addition to grants, another benefit of being in the heritage area is a wide range of technical.

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Assistance, and sometimes that is also grant related, we're often able to connect our partners.

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To other sources of funds grants that we don't necessarily control, but we can help to facilitate.

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And that's the case with the covid relief sources. You see here as a heritage area. We recognized.

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That some of our partners were having trouble identifying the relief dollars to which they were.

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Entitled to apply and some of the carroll county organizations who found their way to successful.

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Operating grants from maryland humanities and the non-profit recovery initiative.

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Did so with our help, and we see that on the screen, the technical assistance can.

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Also relate to public programs. Here's one example from a few years ago, but it's one of my favorites.

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You see on the screen, folks enjoying the smithsonian traveling exhibition. The way we worked.

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And venues for this exhibition in maryland were selected by a competitive process.

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Wherein potential hosts describe their facility and the ways that the theme could also be.

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Illustrated with local examples, I got a heads up from the organize organizers who said we really.

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Want to get this into carroll county, we we hope to have a carroll county applicant, so I thought.

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Immediately of the farm museum, knowing that it had the capacity to host the smithsonian, exhibit.

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And to share many stories of local industry and agriculture, the farm museum was a fantastic venue.

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And not only that, but satellite programs existed in exhibits all throughout the county at places.

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Like the historical society and union mills and more- and you may not know it, but I'm a big fan.

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Of the little-known story of the warm seat industry in carroll county and that got.

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A big feature in this program, the um another just one more example, of technical assistance.

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We do offer a number of opportunities for training and professional development to help equip.

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Our partners to advance their missions- and this is one example from last year- it was aimed at.

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Encouraging virtual engagement during the pandemic and the three non-profits that we featured.

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Had experienced actual growth when they embraced digital programming, so one found their gift shop.

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Sales sword, another experience, tightened audience engagement, the national museum of.

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Civil war, medicine leveraged online programming to grow their membership to unprecedented numbers.

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That's an example and we're going to be hosting an upcoming virtual program. Soon john marks from the.

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Association of state and local history is going to be sharing a new communications toolbox, especially.

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But not exclusively for history organizations, so that's another opportunity for our partners.

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There isn't any charge and we hope that lots of our carroll county folks will participate.

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It's happening on july 20th and thank you. So marketing is another high impact benefit of being.

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In the heritage area, we implement destination marketing each year with the help of our dmos in.

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Each of the counties that we serve the dmos also help us with um with our ongoing management, and we.

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Thank carroll county uh very much for your part in that branded content campaigns sometimes referred.

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To as native advertising have been proven to be very effective- and here you see some excerpts.

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From our spring 2022 campaign uh this year, where we played on the choose, your own adventure theme.

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And in outlets like philly magazine, baltimore, magazine wtop and also the popular maryland,.

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Road trips, we encouraged folks to explore old main streets by way get out in nature, explore.

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Our agriculture and farm markets play outdoor games and puzzles like the civil war geo trail.

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And explore our lesser-known state battlefield at south mountain this year. We also added a spanish.

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Language radio campaign as we're starting to reach out to one of the fastest growing segments of the.

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Lucrative travel market- and we could not do this without the support of carroll county tourism,.

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And economic development keep going our our online learning portal features adaptable lesson plans.

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Including this one that was designed with union mills in mind, this learning portal is linked to.

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National and state learning standards. The union mills lesson plan stresses critical thinking.

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And encouraging meaningful engagement with concepts like continuity, sequencing.

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Of events, change the ability to interpret and communicate complex ideas clearly and coherently.

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Of course, our online education portal was very popular when virtual learning was rained, but we.

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Do hope that more groups are going to be able to use these lessons as a pre-visit or post-visit.

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Activities when they actually come to the area and the next slide, there is just a planner that.

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Exists online as well to help with student travel planning, and one more so. We recently adopted a new.

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Strategic plan that we'll activate this summer goals in the area of tourism, product development.

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Building partnership and regional identity provide lots of ways for our carroll county partners to.

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Find a role in moving the plan forward and, in fact, local listening sessions, interviews and.

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Focus groups with carroll county partners were instrumental in pulling this together and you'll.

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Be able to find it on our website next week, but you see here the cover and an excerpt. I pulled.

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Showing bloggers market image that illustrates the power of place right here in carroll county.

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And the next one, so here you see a volunteer at the newcomer house where we operate a visitor.

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Center, this is near antietam, battlefield and volunteers, like the one you see here, tell.

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Visitors how to extend their travels throughout the heritage area? We keep carroll county visitor.

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Guides and brochures for the attractions here in stock and since many people who stop there.

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Are visiting a bucket list of battlefields, we make sure they know where to stay, and what to do here.

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In carroll county as essential to learning the whole story of gettysburg invasion and retreat and.

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In light in the light and the dark pink areas you see here, these are our current boundaries. Most of.

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Maryland's 12 heritage areas have boundaries that appear much like the corridors you see in carroll.

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And the northern parts of frederick and washington I'll note that all the municipalities in carroll.

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County are included. The larger swaths that you see to the south include our three battlefields.

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Monocacy antietam and south mountain we would like to expand one of the corridors here in carroll.

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County to maximize potential benefit to the county, and to do that we need a letter and I am going to.

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Turn this over now to linda and to jeff, to tell you a little bit more about what we're seeking.

R

Thank you so much liz. I appreciate that um so yes, so I've been working with jeff liz and our.

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Carroll county advisory members over the last few months talking about a boundary amendment.

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um The administrative boundary amendment would be to expand the heritage area in carroll county.

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Slightly along the east side of route, 194 from tawny, town municipal limit to the pennsylvania.

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Line so that's about a four mile stretch relatively this change involves widening.

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The corridor to accommodate two resources that are partially within the boundary now.

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One is the abandoned rail line and the other is the historic rain dollar marine farm.

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And I will show you maps coming up, so this amendment would support the creation of the.

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Northwest area trail and that's something that jeff has been working on for quite some time and.

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That's a really important linkage for tourism, not only for tawny, town and carroll county, but also.

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Links us to the greater gettysburg area to attract some of that tourism dollars from pennsylvania.

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And into maryland, it supports, as I said, the historic rain dollar marion farm as a park and.

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These attractions will facilitate connections, as I said, to downtown chinesetown it to littlestown.

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Pennsylvania and greater gettysburg- and this will facilitate a one-of-a-kind destination for.

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Not only our heritage area, but also the region as a whole, we don't have anything like that. Currently,.

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Introduces visitors to the transition from the city of tawny, town to the county's pristine.

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Countryside, where we have, as you know, more than 75 000 acres of preserved land, especially in this.

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Northwestern region of carroll county, I mean it really creates an evocative landscape of what.

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The area must have looked like during the civil war, troop movement and that's the main corridors.

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Along our roads in carroll county and why carroll county was pulled into the heritage area.

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So some justification for the boundary amendment is the county purchased 145 acre parcel for a.

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Future regional park in 2019 the land acquire was acquired due to no county parks in the upper.

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Northwest area of the county, the county has been planning a future rail trail to connect.

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As I said, tawny, town to littlestown and the rail corridor as it currently stands, obviously bisects.

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That 145 acre parcel, so we wanted to be able to capture the entire portion of the parcel as well.

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Both projects have, as I said, potential to provide recreational opportunities to both county and.

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Non-County residents and non-state residents as well and this adjustment creates potential.

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For additional grant funding through the heart of the civil war heritage area, as liz showed in.

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The earlier slides carol county has participated with grants for many years and the heart of the.

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Civil war heritage area is one of the highest grant recipients of all the heritage areas in.

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The state of maryland, so here's the boundary amendment adjustment, our current boundary for.

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Tawny town carroll, county 194, is that turquoise boundary. That's the existing boundary line.

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As you can see, the northwest trail is very straight through here and it kind of meet.

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The actual heart of the civil war heritage area, boundary meanders in and out of this trail.

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Itself, so, in order to incorporate the entirety of the northwest trail, we are suggesting an increase.

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To the boundary of 1500 feet to the southeast of the existing heart of the civil war heritage.

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Area boundary along 194 and then a little notch out to incorporate the the park as well.

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um And this map just shows the entirety of this.

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Section with the rest of the carroll county, part of the civil heritage area, boundaries.

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So the next steps planning has already prepared.

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A letter outlining the administrative boundary amendment we've prepared the maps and what we're.

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Asking for you all today to do is to have a letter of support either from the carroll county board of.

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Commissioners, if you want to have all of you sign on it or just the president of the board, whichever.

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You choose, but I've also prepared a letter for your review and signature to forward on.

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With the other letter for the request for the boundary amendment, as well as the maps.

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So the timing would be to submit this to the maryland heritage area authority by june 23rd.

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And they have a meeting july 14th for the acceptance of the amendment and we'd like.

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To do this administratively and sort of programmatically programmatically is much.

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Bigger hurdle for all of us and would be better if we could just do this because, as you can tell it's.

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A very slight adjustment to the current boundary. um So if you have any other questions, please.

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Feel free to contact me and then jeff daggets is here also to answer any questions as well.

K

Hello again uh really they've said most of it, but I'm going to say one of the most important things.

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I really want to thank liz and linda for their support and recognition of this opportunity. We've.

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Got two very exciting projects that potentially could benefit from support from this grant.

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We have the rail trail project and those efforts have been ongoing and we also have the rhine.

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Dollar, maring farm, which was purchased back in 2019. We have funding in this year's approved.

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Capital budget to do a master plan for that property. So, as far as what's going to be on.

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There we're not sure yet we need to go through that public meeting process and there'll be.

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A number of ideas that are entertained and discussed there, but because of the proximity to.

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Pennsylvania there is definitely an opportunity to have some tourism impact here and bring people in.

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And use this property, so we're excited about that. We're excited about the possibility of.

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Another pot of money that we may be able to tap into in addition to county funds and state funds.

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So I think a lot of goals can be accomplished by this and again, thanks to uh both of these.

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Ladies for their assistance, and would appreciate the support of the board with the administrative.

K

Agencies, I love using other people's money, so that's always a good thing. um You know.

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You said evocative landscape. I think you got a quarter for using a big word today. I don't know.

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But uh um the smithsonian displays are awesome. You know I went up to your emails to see now. One.

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um My cousin is a curator in the center for uh folklife at the smithsonian and um yeah, so.

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It's just really cool stuff. I I love it. um I mean. I think this is just a win-win.

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Situation we're being proactive in expanding. You know our historical footprint so yeah so.

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It's it's near and dear to me, of course, because it's it's up there, where it is why 1500 feet.

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Because the intent of carroll county's boundaries is to be where the troop movements were from the.

R

Civil war- and so we didn't want to go beyond um the 1500 feet, was just enough to capture without.

R

Compromising the integrity of the corridor itself to capture that rail trail and the rain dollar.

R

How do you pronounce it ryan, dollar? Marine? That's a that's! A that's! An entrenched name in tawny, town.

R

To be able to capture that without having such a big amendment, that it would really.

R

Be considered, then um more than administrative adjustment, a programmatic adjustment, we didn't.

R

Want to venture into that territory, it's a whole new can of worms, and this really.

R

Is very justifiable, as you can tell from the map yep yeah, that that makes sense, and I think.

E

That that trail project- I look forward to that. I won't see it as a sitting, commissioner of.

E

Course, but I look forward to what that brings, because I think that's going to be amazing.

E

It's going to be excellent, so I would like to see the letter come from the entire board. Sure I think.

E

It's got a little bit more teeth to it, especially since it's my district, so I'd like to see 100 yeah.

E

Just so that we get that overall support, I will send that up to you today, having done.

B

The tour of that property when we first acquired it I was thoroughly impressed. I think it's going.

B

To be one of the biggest assets to the county for walking and the addition of this for grant.

B

Farming is a tremendous help. I want to thank all the members of our staff who are involved in this.

B

I think carol. Kane has a tremendous footprint in this organization, I'm a member of it. I received. I.

B

Believe it's called the roll call publication nerdy publication by love, that's an extras.

B

And I was so impressed with the fact that you guys took the time to develop a new strategic plan.

B

And I think, in light of a couple years ago, your facility was assaulted, with vandalism.

B

That the monument up the hill- and I think that was part of some ignorance of people not truly.

B

Understanding what your organization is, I think you all taking this initiative will clarify that.

B

And realize this is educational helpful for everyone. I just cannot say enough good things.

B

About you and your organization, all the volunteers involved, and how big of a financial impact this.

B

Means for our county there's lots of other nerdy people out there, love history and guess what they.

B

Like to travel and do site destinations, whether it's a couple day trip or just a day trip, they.

B

Spend money on memorial day weekend. I visit both the gettysburg and teetum cemeteries. I ran into.

B

Two gentlemen, who flew here from oregon just to visit those battlefields and that's just a small.

B

Touch of what's actually going on out there there's a very devoted crowd of people out.

B

There who love this stuff as well as I do, and I just want to praise you all and on one last.

B

Note when I was in the antietam battlefield, I noticed how weathered the tombstones are and if.

B

There's any way we could try to lobby the federal government try to get some rehabilitation of those.

B

Tombstones and new ones I'd be more than happy to jump on board with you guys and help memorialize.

B

Those soldiers, I think some of the grave sites have just not been cared for enough and.

B

Erosion is deteriorating them, so please put down your radar message to the superintendent.

B

And I would love to help you all out that, thank you, praise to all of you.

R

Thank you. Thank you that I'd like to make the motion that the board of commissioners send a.

C

Letter of support for this request motion. Second, any other discussion. It's in here, none all in.

A

Favor all right, okay, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Okay, let's move on to.

A

Mike robinson, director of department of fire ems, increased fuel costs, supplemental budget request.

A

You ready or now.

J

Do you want to do the next one, then yeah I'll do? uh Can you do the mid volt I'll do that? Okay.

J

Come on down again maureen! Thank you! So maureen. What do you have to say to start this? One off.

N

So we're doing number eight we're doing number eight. Yes, that's the fuel costs.

S

Yes, um thank you. No, the next one, the next one item number purchase of the med fault: storage. Yes, yep.

P

Okay, the carroll county department of buyer ems solicited a quotation from knox company.

P

As a single source vendor to provide 22 large med, vault, narcotics storage boxes,.

P

For the county's ambulances, we request.

P

Your approval to purchase these boxes from mox company in the amount of 44 728.96.

P

This was has budget approval and no additional funds should be needed.

P

And I'll turn it over to michael for your questions. um Yes, and I'd like to recognize.

N

Our ems officer, michael stoner, who's, also here one of our initiatives, has been to standardize.

N

The storage of narcotics we're obviously under federal law through the dea and with our.

N

13 different volunteer departments that are running ems. We wanted to standardize.

N

Technology, they already have that's obsolete. What we're going to do with this funding we're going.

N

To purchase 22 new storage cabinets which will accommodate our first line in reserve, ambulances.

N

And essentially this will be online. So every time someone opens a med vault who will have to.

N

Be a licensed paramedic we'll be able to track that, so this will put us consistent with all.

N

Federal regulations and allow us that tracking mechanism, and should, uh in the remote case we.

N

Have something that turns up missing, or we have to account for the system will allow us to do.

N

That we're also going to repurpose the older units that we have we'll be sending them back.

N

To be retrofitted and we'll be able to use them in our new vehicles when they arrive.

E

Which we hope is next thursday or something.

E

Soon I make the motion: we approve the purchase of 22 medval narcotics storage boxes from knox.

E

Company, forty four thousand seven, twenty eight and ninety six cents.

E

Second, I have a motion have a second any discussion on this.

A

All in favor all right, hi, okay, let's uh you can move back. I think we're ready to.

A

Talk about the increased fuel cost supplemental budget request. You could do that can't you.

N

This is a request that was made through the carroll county volunteer.

N

Emergency services, association and uh richard coons, their liaison, is here.

N

They've done a very good job of accounting for the excess fuel costs, as everyone's obviously aware.

N

We've seen a significant spike in the costs, and this will offset from the current fiscal year.

N

The additional monies that have been expended already by the member companies of cc visa, so the.

N

Total amount in the supplemental request is seventy six thousand.

N

Five hundred and forty dollars, which would be used to cover the shortage, this also.

N

Will lessen the impact of the limited fund raising over the last two years as a direct.

N

Result of the kovit 19 pandemic, and I don't know if richard has anything you want to add to that.

T

No, that pretty much covers it. It's just mostly the fuel cost that has been increased from.

T

The gas price that we're all paying so and that's where they're filling the crunch, based on.

T

Budgets that were made long before this crunch started, I mean the biggest challenge for me. Is.

A

This is going to be an ongoing issue if the fuel prices continue to go up the way. The trends look.

A

Like they're going to be going up, are you going to be coming back to us for an additional 76, 000 and.

A

Is analysis kind of being done on how much had been used where.

A

You got to a zero point to where we are now.

A

So when should we expect the next toronto money to be requested? One of the things I'm going to be.

N

Doing is meeting with the chiefs and presidents to see if we can't initiate some conservation.

N

Efforts of the biggest issue right now with diesel over six dollars, a gallon. The question will be are.

N

There some emergency responses that we could take a smaller utility vehicle to versus a fire engine.

N

Or a ladder truck, obviously for legitimate fires. We can't do that, so we're going to be evaluating.

N

That also those that are using vehicles for certain other things for travel purposes and even.

N

More personalized use we're going to be looking at. How can we reel in on that from a conservation.

N

Perspective which just makes sense, given the cost and everybody's doing that across the board.

N

However, without taking any shortcuts on safety, absolutely we're not going to compromise that.

N

So so my only reservation here is well. I got a couple things, but I want to be. I want to be.

E

Mindful here too, because I've been on that side of the table and know that this is this is huge.

E

But I also know that that purchasing is interesting, because companies have.

E

uh Long-Term contracts with different vendors etc. So I am hopeful that somebody is trying to.

E

Get to a point where four five six companies can get one vendor and you know I get the fact.

E

And I've richard with all due respect, I've been there. You know this, but you know before when this.

E

Was talked about well, you know. They've they've bought raffle tickets from us for 15 years, so.

E

We got to honor that well, I hate to say it, but I think that ship is either sailing or.

E

Has sailed so I'm hopeful that we're making every attempt that we can, because this isn't going away.

E

To try to get uh a a better per, I mean, are we? Are we purchasing.

E

Are we getting fuel from the county because the county does a good job of of getting fuel man.

E

Or whatever, so that's my that's one of the things that I have now we we looked at doing that in this.

N

Fy23 uh but we met a lot of resistance with that, we're absolutely going to revisit that.

N

And our goal would be to have one single fuel vendor same as the county at the counties.

N

Using their purchasing uh capabilities- and that would definitely reel in on that- so that's one of.

N

Our top initiatives for fy24 that we can hopefully work out all of the dynamics between male and men.

N

And it becomes a simple matter of economics yeah and it's it's going to get worse. That's.

E

The problem yeah- this is a temporary thing and this appears to be a temporary fix, which.

E

Is not in the cards right now, so a hard look and perhaps some sacrifices are going to have.

E

To be made here, so that's I'm not. I don't want to not give the extra, because I know.

E

It's needed, but something's got to give here. You know last night I brought it up. I guess the.

F

You know in the past we give money to ccvs that we have no accountability where it.

F

Goes is this going to be accounted for, we're going to see where this money goes.

F

To which fire departments and or is it unif 5 000 across the board, how's it going to be allocated.

T

Each department submitted their their budget amount versus what they've actually spent during.

T

The fiscal year, so those departments the money will go directly to them, based on that amount.

C

So they submitted that to the county submitted that into yes to the county, not cc visa. Yes, okay,.

A

You know the discussion we had last night with east hack and was pointed out a few times.

A

Just because the resources aren't there doesn't mean the requirements, don't exist.

A

And these requirements exist again not to take safety and compromise in any.

A

Fashion, but it's it is difficult to manage these resources. I mean there's a reluctance in that, but.

A

I think, like commissioner wan said it doesn't mean we're not going to support, because.

A

We cannot compromise, you know this, but there's a lot of work that still needs to be done.

E

So I would assume this comes out of reserve for contingencies, or what are we doing here?.

E

There's no detail here, I know, um did you there? She is just in time delivery. Esp! Yes,.

U

Wow, so there is no transfer required when we put together the 22 budget.

V

We put together a full match for a grant for the sdba for westminster. They ended up not.

V

Utilizing the full amount of that grant, so there was money sitting there. We were hoping.

V

To follow the fund balance, but you can utilize it for this purpose, so no transfer is required.

A

So hope is a course of action actually worked. Wow I've said that a couple times wow whatever.

J

I will never move the budget department farther away from this room, no kidding all right. That.

E

That makes some sense and that's good, then. Okay, just curious, though how much money is in that so.

V

um It's right around a hundred thousand dollars we had budgeted, I believe it was 303 000. They ended.

V

Up needing 204 for their because they got more grant money than we thought they would. Okay, okay,.

A

Well, it makes it more palatable, you know, so I have to say, like commissioner, lance.

C

Has already brought up, the companies have to come together and get a single source.

C

For this fuel, so just to save money and since we're the one paying the bill, I don't understand.

C

The pushback- I don't one one of the things over the years as bishop rants would know- is that.

T

They they've gone with local vendors because at 3am, when they're sitting in a barn fire for 12.

T

Hours that local vendor picks up the phone and shows up with a truck and pumps right into the.

T

To the back of the fire truck, so that's one of the one of the driving factors, other driving factors.

T

Towards the vendors that they have selected all right, but I would I mean if you write the contract.

C

It says that that's what happens and that's what happens, no matter what vendor you have.

C

And I understand that the loyalty and so forth, but it comes down to we're paying the bills.

C

I'd like to go there now, it's a it's a it's a valid point and as we continue to see these bumps.

E

In the roads of the of the transformation here, if you will, these are things that we're going to.

E

Have to to try to get together on and I think we we will there's no question about it, but this is.

E

One of those things that sort of got overlooked and probably would have been overlooked even to.

E

This point, except that now fuel was getting to the absurd level and it's not going to stop so.

E

I know we're already doing that with electricity with propane with water sewer, right pest control.

N

So we've started an initiative. It's just. We want to be sure we can manage that so next year.

N

One of the goals will be taking over the gasoline and diesel and centralizing that okay, all right.

E

Well, they need fuel, so I'm going to make them the motion that we approve the supplemental funding.

E

Now that we've got the explanation from budget of 76 540 to cc visa for fy22.

E

Second, I have a motion. I have a second. Is there any further discussion on this.

A

Scene here, none all in favor, aye, aye, aye. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Good discussion.

E

Hey hey mike, are you in the building today? Yes, sir stoner stoner, um I can't be. If you need me too,.

E

uh I'll text, you all right thanks.

A

Are we ready for uh detention center cameras? Does not look like you want to do it? Okay, good, okay,.

A

Item number- nine, yes, um vicki mcdonald, couldn't be here today. So sixth and I can.

P

Handle it, um we are requesting your approval to award the replacement and installation of security.

P

Cameras to marathon technology solutions in the amount of fifty two thousand eight hundred fifty.

P

Seven dollars and two cents, this award is being made by way of of a competitively bid county term.

P

Contract the purchase amount is within the adopted budget. No additional funds should be necessary and.

P

If you have any questions about the installation, I'm sure then sixten can answer your questions.

Q

Yeah, so these are the cameras that were identified through the fy 22 budget year as being end of life.

Q

So this is just the regular replacement cycle that we have these devices on.

Q

And they're throughout the facility so we're getting state-of-the-art cameras that.

C

You can actually see stuff with you know. You see, I mean not here, but you see some security.

C

Cameras, it's so grainy and all you couldn't tell who was standing there, but you know I'm just.

C

Excited okay, the one in arkansas or wherever it was. What is that I don't know? Well, these aren't at.

B

A convenience store a gas file associated software et cetera, so it's using the existing software, the.

Q

Existing genetec system that we have so it's just replacing the device in genetech with the new one.

E

Cool okay, so there's no additional licensing or anything like that. That has to go along with that.

F

I'll move the board of commissioners approve the purchase, a replacement installation of.

F

Security cameras to marathon technology solutions incorporated in amount of fifty two thousand eight.

F

Hundred fifty seven dollars and two cents. Second, I have a motion. I have a second any discussion.

A

Seen here, none all in favor, okay, thank you. Thank you. Two cents gets me, but.

F

Maureen, I think you get to stay up here because we're going to go into uh letter.

A

Of intent, approval to order roof supplies against the fy23 budget for planned replacement of skytex.

A

Fbo roof. Yes, um we are here um to request your approval to issue garland dbs.

P

A letter of intent to order the supplies and materials needed to rehabilitate the roof at.

P

The fbo building at the airport, at an estimated cost of 142 983 omni partners, awarded garland dbs.

P

A contract which was competitively bid, this letter of intent, will allow garland to order the needed.

P

Supplies before another price increase grows into effect, which will save the county approximately.

P

Six thousand dollars this amount was requested in the fy 23 budget from airport from the airport.

P

Enterprise fund and no additional funds should be necessary and if you have any questions.

P

About the roof, I'm sure that mark could answer your questions. What's the fbo building, it's.

U

Called it's it's short for fixed based operators in the airport business. We, like our acronyms.

U

But it's basically the main building at the airport, where the fix they do their.

U

Maintenance and they they shepherd the aircraft around and so on and so forth.

U

It's our main public building at the airport.

I

All right gotta have a roof, absolutely sir money's allocated. So let's execute it.

E

So I'll make the motion, uh the officer procurement issue, a letter of intent to garland.

E

Especially if they're going to save six grand for the purchase of roofing materials, the.

E

Estimated cost of 142 983. Second, I got motion in a couple of seconds all in favor.

A

Okay, thank you, commissioners, hey pretty easy, hey mark just for uh point of reference. uh We.

E

Got I had a chance to tour the easton airport last week yesterday with mako.

E

uh Incredible facility and um I'm hopeful that you guys regionally look at one another and see what.

E

Everybody else is doing I've been there before. Yes, it is nice, yes, sir, even got to go up in the tower.

E

Oh nice, which is, I couldn't believe in today's security, but uh they they thought. I looked.

E

Honest so I went up into town, you didn't cause any planes to crash. Did you so yeah? So I went.

E

Up in the tower we'll leave it at that. Thank you again. Thanks thanks, maureen you're welcome.

A

Okay, purchase of replacement, uv light channel for south carol waste water treatment plants.

B

This is really important stuff.

W

The office of procurement and cooperation with bureau of utilities request.

W

Your approval to award a contract for the purchase of a replacement, uv light channel.

W

For the south carolina wastewater treatment plant to hayward inc in the amount of 25 800.

W

This award will be made via a single source vendor, and the amount is within the adopted.

W

Budget and no additional funds will be necessary. Gentlemen. The south carol wastewater treatment.

O

Plan is one of three small small treatment plants that we currently operate throughout the county.

O

It processes waste flow from south carol, high school winfield elementary school and the winfield.

O

Fire station the plan has provided good service life over the years. It was brought online in 1991.

O

And obviously many of the parts are at the end of their service life at this point in time,.

O

The existing uv light channel is one of these. The unit is now obsolete and the manufacturer no.

O

Longer provides spare parts or support for these for the the the device uv light exposure is the.

O

Final step in the wastewater treatment process at the south carolina facility exposure to to uv.

O

Light renders any any remaining microorganisms in the wastewater flow sterile prior to their.

O

To their release into the natural environment for this plant, it is the run stream channel.

O

The new the new light channel will be provided by the same manufacturer as the original unit, and it.

O

Should fit seamlessly into into the existing footprint at the south carol facility so so.

O

Installation should should work very nicely for us. Our wastewater treatment staff will we'll do the.

O

Installation work and support the startup support will be provided by hayward inc. So if we have any.

O

Issues with the startup itself, there is a support uh for that built into this contract. Is that why.

A

It was single sourced because that was okay um are there, others that are out there? That could.

A

Fit in the same you know, or would things have to be not that not that we were aware of it, because.

O

It's very the south carol plant is a very it's a very small plant, very tight space, so so the the.

O

Selling point for us was the same same footprint, yeah yep, mr walker. I want to thank you for giving.

B

Me the tour of that facility when I first became commissioner, I must admit my ignorance. I had no.

B

Idea that uv light was used in the process, it seemed so simplistic and environmentally safe.

B

I was just amazed, so this is a worthwhile investment, so thank you for the education on.

B

That and informing the public as well. I move that the board of commissioners award a contract for.

B

The purchase of a replacement uv light channel for the south carol wastewater treatment plant.

B

The hayward inc and the amount of 25 800 seconds. Excuse me: okay, I have a motion. I have a second.

A

I have a question first and I have a question over here: how long is the uv light channel? How long.

C

You know say it again how many feet yeah, how many feet yeah this one, I believe, is four to six feet.

O

Long is that all it takes to kill, I'm just just curious how long it takes for the water to run.

C

Under to kill all the stuff, it's a pretty quick process. It's pretty amazing! You ought to do a tour.

B

Don't drink the water, though no all right. Thank you.

A

Okay, I have a motion. Second, any other discussion questions seen hearing none all in favor. Thank.

A

You okay, thank you. Thank you. Okay. Now, let's talk about replacing bridge number. Oh boy,.

A

Cl cltec 245 shepherds mill road over little pipe creek. The office of procurement in.

W

Conjunction with the bureau of engineering requests, your approval to award a contract.

W

To kinsley construction incorporated in the amount of two million one hundred thirteen thousand six.

W

Hundred sixty-five dollars, the bid was advertised. The bureau of office procurement received two bids.

W

One from kinsley construction and one from kibbler construction, kinsley construction was the lowest.

W

Responsive and responsible bidder, the project is for the replacement of bridge cl 245, which.

W

Carries shepard's mill road over little pipe creek, just located south of the intersection of maryland.

W

75 and shepherds mill road. The amount is with within the adopted budget, no additional funds.

W

Are necessary good morning, shepherd's mill structure was built in 1965 for the state.

M

Highway administration carroll county acquired that structure in the early 2000s as part of.

M

The shepherds mill road project, the structure is currently rated as poor and is on an annual.

M

Inspection cycle due to that poor rating, this project is part of the federal aid bridge program.

M

And is eligible for the 80 reimbursement for the construction of the cost of the construction.

M

uh The project has 180 working days and it's expected to take approximately one year.

M

uh To complete, we've got to remove the old structure, put in all new structure and put.

M

A new deck on there we have already met with the town of union bridge and lehigh prior to bidding.

M

And we'll be meeting with them, have additional partnering meetings with them and the contractor.

M

Once we get finished all the contractual paperwork and everything like that with the state so.

M

We also are going to meet with the contractor to determine material availability so that we can.

M

Make sure we don't start and then have to wait for something that is on a slow boat from somewhere or.

M

You know wherever it's coming from so kinsley has uh I'm sorry, I might add mr linochen thanks.

B

For the tortoise- and I appreciate you working very closely with lehigh- this is in my district.

B

And the citizens in downtown are very much concerned about the diversion of traffic.

B

Because there's so much heavy traffic in an area from the equipment they run.

B

So keep them posted and work out a good plan and also please as much as possible. Keep the citizens.

B

Out there informed because the less they know the more phone calls I'll get on this yeah we've.

M

Already worked with lehigh they're already working with their contractors developed an alternate.

M

Travel route for their trucks, so that all that should be coordinated and we, as I said, we met.

M

With the town and we'll be meeting with the town and the citizens again, thank you very much. You.

A

Said 85 percent reimbursed 80 80 80 20., so it's 80 of that 2.1 million we're going to get reimbursed.

A

Yes about 1.69, okay, I, like that better. Yes, um how long is this bridge in feet, because anything under.

C

20 feet is our responsibility. I think over is somebody else's? Isn't it we're about 105 foot.

C

So this is our responsibility. No, no! That's why they're paying the 80.

C

Oh okay, okay, we have a picture on the screen there. You go all right and um you said this.

A

Is rated poor? How many other bridges do we have in the county that are rated poor.

M

We have nine, including this okay, the money, I'm sorry money. The federal government is putting.

C

Out now for bridge reconstruction is that where part of this money is coming from or.

C

Are we applying for that as much as possible? We will be looking into that. We've talked with the.

M

State and the last thing we heard from the state was they didn't know what they were doing with.

M

That, whether they're going to allow the locals to participate with them, so we are looking at that.

M

We don't know what the minimum project sizes sizes are. We do have.

M

Most of these nine already programmed within the current funding stream and we're pushing the two.

M

Our most recent two with the state right now to try they're having some contractual.

M

Issues with consultants and design so we're working with them to try and move that along. So.

E

There's a there's a little bridge down on the shore called the chesapeake bay.

E

Bridge which is probably going to get a lot of attention, that's a little bridge until it gets.

E

Filtered down to our level, who knows there is, there is a pot of money that only the locals.

M

Are eligible for not the states, uh but we have not seen uh the details on that yet yeah. It.

A

Seemed like it's a front page of paper every day that okay anymore or I'm good, all right.

B

Well then, I moved the board of commissioners award of contract for shepherd's mill, road.

B

Over little pipe creek to kinsley construction inc in the amount of 2 million one hundred.

B

Thirteen thousand six hundred sixty-five dollars second motion in a second: is there.

A

Any more discussion or questions on this it's in here and then all in favor, aye, aye, aye, okay,.

A

Now, let's talk about bridge program manager, the office of procurement, in cooperation with bureau.

W

Of engineering request your approval to award a contract to wilson t ballard in the amount.

W

Not to exceed 134 thousand dollars for the bridge program manager, the award will be.

W

Made from a previously competitively mid-term contract that was awarded to wilson t ballard.

W

The funds are within the adopted, 2023 fiscal year budget and no additional funds will be necessary.

M

So this contractual maryland professional license engineer will continue to assist the bureau.

M

Of engineering with management of our bridge program and shepherding these deficient program.

M

Bridges, excuse me through the bridge program, we estimate, based on the current, a lot of funding.

M

This contractual engineer will work two days a week for us they will continue to review design.

M

Plans for structural replacement manage projects through these federal state and federal systems.

M

Manage the required documentation for federal funding, which is very cumbersome review our annual.

M

And bi-annual structural inspection reports so that when we get a letter of concern, we can move.

M

Quickly on addressing those and develop structural maintenance rehabilitation plans, so we can.

M

Continue to maintain our structures, we have a good, a good bit of experience, as this deaf person has.

M

Been on site for the last two years for us and as was mentioned, we will adjust the work hours.

M

Based on the workload and not to exceed the 134 thousand dollars, which is in the fy 23 budget,.

C

Someone we could have an internal position if we.

C

Paid enough or whatever, to put someone in here or just someone that we just need two days a week and.

C

That's why we're doing it this way, there's plenty of work for a full-time position, so we could, if.

C

Are we looking for a full-time position? We we have not. um We were lucky to get the two days.

M

In the operating budget for um two days a week, so we're not looking for a full-time position.

C

Because currently do not have one advertised, no because of funding. Yes, okay, the competitive.

A

Salaries for something like this would probably be three hundred to four hundred thousand dollars. I.

A

Mean is that um we're seeing swag? I just saw this morning um some of the project managers on our.

M

Contractual inspections, um the state used to capitalize cap them at 80 an hour they're now like.

M

83 an hour that they're paying actual rates okay, so then you have to add the everything else. On top.

M

Of that so yeah they're expensive, it is expensive. Okay, we're seeing all our consultant rates right.

M

You know they're paying a lot more to keep folks. Well I mean outsourcing, you know is the way to go.

A

When you can't afford you know yeah, it's never work, so this process has worked well for us.

M

Definitely getting you know a lot of work in two days that looks like the monocacy okay. Is this.

C

The actual bridge- that's on this, oh yeah, that's my favorite! I'm a foreigner! Okay! I'm thinking! Why are.

C

We showing a different bridge. I have no control nice kayak in there swami's playing with us.

E

It's a good video, but I just I was going to say it didn't look like the picture from above. Okay.

E

All right I'll make the motion. We authorized the dpw to utilize utilize, the term contract with.

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Wilson t ballard for the contractual grid bridge program manager and the amount not to exceed 140.

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134 000 for 2023. give them a six thousand dollar raise. Second,.

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I got a motion. I got a second all in favor all right. Okay,.

A

Let's talk about fy 23, pavement testing and rehab recommendations.

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The office of procurement cooperation with the bureau of engineering request.

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Your approval to use the existing midterm contract with wood environment.

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And infrastructure solutions incorporated to evaluate and provide pavement testing and.

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Rehabilitation recommendations for approximately 38 miles of roadways in the amount of 110.

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594.91, this amount is within the adopted fy23 budget and no additional funds will be necessary.

M

So we'll be performing testing on the roadways that are part of our fy23, paving roadways.

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The consultant will be doing a visual condition survey, non-destructive testing, pavement.

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Coring material sampling and subgrade soil classification, they will do laboratory testing.

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And subgrade soils when needed and providing a final report for our recommendations for.

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Fy23 pavement rehabilitation program. We received two proposals from our term contractors and wood.

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Environment infrastructure solutions was the lowest proposal. We've used them for several.

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Years for the same service, and we hope to have the report sometime in november.

E

So, are these 38 miles of roadway, you know which ones they are? Do you just randomly based on.

E

The amount of time that they've been paved or aging or whatever what goes into that so.

M

We have an asset management system that every two years we we go out and review the roadways.

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And within that system, they're rated based on their pavement condition index and their.

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Structural index and they're programmed so that we repair the ones that haven't gotten too far.

M

And that we do some mill and patch we'll do some reclamation, so we do a portion of the.

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Worst ones, we do some that we want to catch before we do some that we'll may just get a smooth seal.

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Some that may just get patching so that that asset management program identifies where these roadways.

M

In which year now we do adjust them if we have a need somewhere, but that is our our pla planning.

M

And it also tells us how far behind we are also okay. That was the next question whether you drop.

E

Back and punt, if you've identified something else that needs a little bit more priority based on.

E

Citizen outreach or what have you because I got one of those up there right now with? Yes, that's.

E

A gravel, though so, whatever we we're we're aware of that one. So the one thing the software does.

M

Not do is um we have. We find some some benefit and cost effectiveness, as we group a bunch of.

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Roadways so we'll look in an area in the next five years where we are and if we can get a group of.

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Roadways in that one area done then we'll do that, so that we can, you know, get some cost effective.

A

So to speak, yes did you want to share uh yes good morning, commissioner? So just wanted to add in and.

X

We work closely with chris when we get uh customer concerns in any one area on particular roads.

X

uh We forward those over to the bureau of engineering and then, as they get the analysis in.

X

uh We certainly look at that. We do share with them we're all we're all faced with the challenge.

X

Obviously, we were hoping for more of our revenue funds to come back this year to.

X

Bolster our roads programs that did not occur in the fashion. We were all hoping for.

X

But we're going to continue to maintain them with that same goal that you all have to keep them safe and operational throughout the county best. We can do.

J

You want to ask your concrete road question.

X

Okay, you know one of the things again like commissioner: lance shared getting.

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Community outreach to us about roads, we get it, I think, probably in all of our communities and.

A

um You know I usually push it over to duggar to you and you answer. Well, here's the priority.

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Here's where it's at, um I think, maybe getting a tutorial on that could at least I know, helped me.

A

Say hey, this is where we're at, and this is the you know the priority um and whether you put it.

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Right there on your, you know on your page, saying hey, this is where we are so I know where to reach.

A

You know what I mean yeah, I know what you mean. I apologize just not to inconvenience you where.

A

I can then respond easier, so yeah and currently, as we talk as you talked earlier, about fuel costs.

M

We're looking at next year, this year's projects in next years.

I

And that's a moving target as we're seeing these asphalt prices increase.

C

Well, since you brought that up, I have to ask the question then: have we looked at other things.

C

Besides asphalt to pay with, in other words, concrete because as asphalt, prices increase,.

C

I mean one of the reasons we don't use concrete. My guess is because there's expensive, concrete.

C

But as asphalt prices increase, are they getting close to the price of concrete and and if it.

C

Would be feasible to use concrete instead of asphalt on those roadways, because I'm sure a.

C

Lot of additional work would have to be done. We actually talked about that last week in.

M

The staff meeting about where, where that that tipping point is um you know the state used to.

M

Use a lot of concrete, and if you you know when those of you know 140 before it was rehabbed.

M

uh You drive over that that asphalt and thump over all the joints, um so I don't think we're there yet.

M

um You know asphalt works well in the high volume high. You know. Traffic areas such as.

M

The interstates, because of you know some of those I'm concrete. Yes, I'm sorry, um so we are looking at.

M

That I don't know where that number is at this point. I don't think we are there yet, especially.

M

For our our lower volume roadways, um you can put down a lot of asphalt in a day and then at the end.

M

Of the day we can it cools down, and traffic can go back on it. Concrete takes a longer time to dry, so.

I

We've got a lot of concrete in in union bridge, so.

C

As fuel prices go up, it's something to keep an eye on. Yes, it is we we are looking at that.

M

Staff was looked at me kind of funny the other day when I said well, we need to start thinking.

M

Where that tipping point is yeah, I know uh you all have talked a lot about fuel this morning.

X

That's something within dpw, obviously having fleet management um reed oliver, our bureau chief.

X

There keeps a tight ear to it and just briefed me yesterday that some of the forecasts that.

X

He's hearing could put us up another dollar and 20 cents over where we are right now.

X

You know by the end by end of july or early august, so it's very alarming to us because in the.

X

Projects that chris is talking about, if we look at asphalt escalators, you could be talking a million.

X

Dollars when you include all the projects just by escalating one dollar and 20 cents in that in that.

X

Premium, it's not to shock anyone or scare you, but you know it's our job to keep you all informed and.

X

We are looking at that each and every day yeah the pricing of the uh the ag center parking lot.

A

Basically doubled, you know from the time we started talking about it earlier this year. To now.

A

And we're just I'm sorry guys, no and we're just two weeks away from starting the implementation.

B

Of our next budget and I'm so concerned about the inflation blowing everything out of the water. But.

B

Before we wrap up on this, I just want to publicly thank you bureau, chief linochen, since I've been.

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In office you have been an absolutely tremendous asset to myself. Along with my colleagues, you gave.

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Me a tour of all the bridges that need to repair in my district you've taken me out to the culverts.

B

You've shown me how they're numbering them all, and I just hope that the next individuals that sit in.

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These seats utilize the resource and knowledge that all of you guys have and, ladies and the.

B

Staff to help us execute our jobs, so I'm I just can't say enough good things about you. Thank you.

B

Very much, thank you. The bad part is when you took him out, you brought him back and I was kidding.

C

I just had to throw that in sorry that was perfect.

A

Okay: okay, I'll move, the board of commissioners approved the department.

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Of public works to use the term contract with wood, environment and infrastructure solutions.

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Incorporated an amount of 110, 594 dollars and 91 cents. Second got a motion. I got a.

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Second, any further discussion on this scene here, none all in favor, aye. Okay, thank you.

U

Went through absolutely close minutes, um chris, is your anybody on the line.

E

Speak up can't hear you is that a no yes, okay got it. Thank you.

A

Okay, there's nobody on the line. Is there anything else more for open admin? Do you want to bring.

C

One thing up, I should have mentioned the priority: carol is the fireman's carnivals that are open and.

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Around uh right now, um police try attend them, they help support the fire departments and so forth and.

C

One thing I have to bring up at the sykesville carnival: there is a, I guess, you call it a booth.

C

Where a guy has a bar, if you hang for the you pay five dollars, you can hang from the bar for two.

C

Minutes you get fifty dollars. This is a challenge to all the wrestlers that are in carroll county.

C

Because wrestlers work on the grip, all the time go out and give that a try, there's nothing. I did it.

C

At home all right, but I was actually thinking about going out there. I wanted to try at home.

C

First, before I did it in front of everybody else, but I was thinking about trying to go out there.

C

And doing it again, but anyway, challenge go out. There give it a try, especially the wrestlers.

C

That I'm coaching now gerstel get out there, give it a try. It's and you think. Oh you only.

C

Have to hang there for two minutes, it's a little more difficult than you think it is like torture.

C

It's diff, it is, and yeah two minutes is a long time when you're hanging there- and I I was.

C

Watching it for a while, because I'm trying to you know gauge it out to see if I'm gonna do it or not,.

C

One person actually did it out all the people to try. While I was standing there- and I was there for.

C

A while or if you don't want to do that, they got awesome, funnel cakes being sold and hoffman's ice.

A

Cream at scissor, but don't eat that stuff before you try that challenge? Okay, don't the lions sell.

J

French fries and the lions club has the world's best french fries, so where'd you spend your time.

F

Nevermind never mind the potatoes doing the french, fries and okay. All right is that anything else, but.

C

Not that I appreciate, because there are uh and tawny towns is going on right now, because it is.

A

Tony towns is sykesville's got a few more days. Mount airy, I think, is still going. Where did they.

A

Stop, I think they wrapped up here, and I think the system toy town simultaneously was different.

B

But they're on opposite ends of the county, so I don't think it'd affect their participation.

A

Okay, let's talk agendas. You already did the closed minutes right, yep earlier.

J

When we had our little break just making sure I thought it's open so monday june.

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20Th, we are county offices, are closed in observance of juneteenth commemoration.

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Commissioner, wants will be attending the maryland state fireman's association convention throughout.

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That week, starting on monday, the 20th tuesday june 21st, I will be presenting at eight in the morning.

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A chamber of commerce uh breakfast discussion at eldersbrook library, uh planning, commission.

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Commissioner, weaver will be sitting in on uh that in the reagan room at nine o'clock.

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uh Walk in the park at 2 p.m, at creme gold park, commissioner boucher and frasier will be attending.

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And then, commissioner weaver and I will be attending the veterans advisory.

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Meeting over the american legion post 31 at two o'clock, wednesday.

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There's nothing thursday. We have open session, uh we'll be doing a proclamation of hurricane agnes.

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Remembrance uh chris hein uh we'll be presenting that okay and then, let's see.

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Approval of transfer of fy 22 annual housing bond allocation.

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Proposal for medical respite and sober center update and request for letter of commitment.

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Must steckle be presenting merger of services provided by carroll, county and recovery.

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Support services facility being presented by the health department assistant services.

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Proposed use for knot and carroll funding again our health department and citizen services.

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Incredible program we have there approval for meadow branch, road construction.

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Prior to faa, grant application for fy22 fiscal recovery fund update and there should be a handful.

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Of folks I'll be presenting on that water and sewer master plan spring amendment, ms.

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Eisenberg from planning will be presenting approval for fy23 town county agreements.

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The three will be sitefield, hampstead and tonytown, and then motorola solutions agreements.

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Mr campbell from public safety will be presenting nothing on friday.

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Saturday, at 1 pm over at the flood zone appropriately named they'll, be 50th.

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Anniversary of hurricane agnes commemoration and commissioners boucher lance weaver and I.

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At this time will be attending on sunday, commissioner frazier has the podcast.

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June 27th and 28th, we have nothing scheduled.

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June 29th uh mako interim legislative committee meeting, which will be virtual.

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With uh commissioner frazier and wants attending and then 6 p.m, a virtual planning.

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Commission meeting with commissioner wants attending thursday. We go into open session.

A

And right now we have nothing on the agenda, but we'll see where that goes. Friday is the first.

A

Nothing scheduled there is a parade on saturday uh july, 2nd that I will be attending down in.

A

Sykesville, let freedom ring and then commercial failure. You can't have both weeks. Well, you can.

C

Well, I'm not what's weak is mine too. You know that's okay, so, commissioner, I know people are.

C

Wanting them for me to go week after week, afterwards, probably connection.

A

Scheduled for july 3rd, I would expect that's correct. Okay, any further discussion comments.

A

um Wait a second well, I said, I'm glad uh three of yous will be attending the flood.

B

Zone agnes thing: that's a wonderful venue and I like, where people go out there and.

B

And patronize union bridge they need the help and the love. Okay. I need a motion to adjourn.

A

So moved second, I got a motion. I got a second all in favor, aye aye against yeah, four one.

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