Carroll County, MD Board of County Commissioners Open Sessions, 23 Jun 2022

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Okay, it is june 23rd all day zero. Nine hundred- and we have a few things happening- should be a.

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Relatively short, open session, let's keep it that way. Motion to adjourn prior to.

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Priority carol, as we always do, let's stand for the pledge of allegiance and moment.

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Silence of america and to the republic for which it stands.

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Indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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Let's go right into priority carol, commissioner frazier. What's on your mind,.

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Okay, we have my commissioner boucher and I did a walk in the park at crim gold park. I think.

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There's some pictures of shop now they'll be up later they'll be up later, but anyway walk in the.

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Park at creme gold park- I have to say, of course the weather was really very nice that that day, so.

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It was the largest turnout. I can remember for a walk in the park and I missed the.

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First, one because I actually had something else to do. It was very cold that day as well.

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But anyway, so I've been, I think, there's a third third one. Fourth, whatever it's been been to a few.

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Of them- and commissioner uh boucher's been here as well, so it was, and it was a nice mile- walk.

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I think that trail is a mile, so that was nice and they have another trail that goes outside.

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Around the perimeter park, it's 1.9 miles. It's more of a nature walk. I haven't done that one yet, but.

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I brought the brochure home showed to my wife. She says we got to get down there and do that, so we probably will be down here on a date. That's.

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Make sure you put off one or something when you go out into the woods? Oh yeah, because I was told.

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That goes up through the trees and everything else. Oh yeah up there. Oh there we go, there's pictures.

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I'm so far in front. You can't see me no, I'm just kidding there's some drone action. There was.

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Actually, the I was impressed with the drone had to say that the drone was went in front of us behind.

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Us it did a really good job. I know who that guy is, but I thought it was a giant wasp flying over when.

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You hear it coming, it's like what is that yeah, it's coming, yep, it's good! Okay! I also went to the.

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June teen celebration in city westminster, um it was the first one that they've had pretty well.

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Attended for the first one, you know, people don't know about it and so forth. So it wasn't. It wasn't.

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Packed but it was, it was a good good attendance there. They had a band when I was you had one band.

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I think they might have others, they had speakers, they talked about with juneteenth man and and it.

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Was uh it was well done, it was well done. I think it will grow in popularity as as it continues.

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Because it was the first one and like a block away with the barbecue barbecue and beer stroll for the.

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City of westminster, I have to say I was amazed at how big that was. I can't remember how many.

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Blocks, it went, but it went longer than I thought it would be. I mean lengthwise and it was packed. It.

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Was packed, I guess people like beer and barbecue, I don't know so and they had. I think three different.

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Areas where music was being played and so forth it was. It was really a great time. A lot of people.

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There, a lot of you know camaraderie people talking and walking. It was very, very well done and you.

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Know people want to get out now and I think that's why it was packed. Say that and I have to say when.

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I was here I did some axe throwing first time I threw an axe, but let's just say I hit the target.

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Almost every time the sticker bounce off. No, I only one time did it not stick every other time.

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Was hitting that target right on? Of course the axe aren't like the ones you have at your house.

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These are weighted and they're made to throw and it's always a little easier. But you know.

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You could have said it was your excellent skill and talent that didn't it was a combination all.

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Right and that's all I have thank you sure well, there was at the tip commissioner weaver.

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um I just want to say I had a chance to attend planning zoning for the first time.

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In several years, the other day very, very nice meeting, they have a full board now.

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I think that's working very well. I was impressed with that and we had the joint uh uh meeting with.

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The fire and ems advisory committee the other day um here again, uh communication is a key to.

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Everything going on and and now and in the future and uh it's nice to be able to hear.

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Everybody's views and where we're going and putting this uh fire and ems service together and.

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Commissioner rusty and I were together yesterday yesterday or tuesday what the veterans advisory.

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Committee, yes, tuesday, tuesday veterans, advisory committee and uh here again uh another committee.

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That meets once a month only for one hour, they are on a strict time limit, don't go over an hour and.

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Get the job done, I'm really impressed the way they handle it and uh what they do and congratulations.

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To bill nash and steve whistler for taking over the helm, and thank you so much to mark fisher for.

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All he's done in running that as the leader of the veterans council, commissioner boucher. Thank you.

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Good morning, everyone I want to read off some of the new hires for the county.

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It's always a pleasure to do this and welcome the new people on anthony nodule construction.

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Inspector engineering amanda, poor emergency communications assistant manager, public safety.

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Ivy story, office associate department of public works, lauren sydnor office associate.

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Personnel services and human resources, nicole gibson program, specialist citizen services,.

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Ashley kane resource management, intern land and resource management, deborah lester museum farm.

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Museum rachel, petticool kesky or I'm sorry, if I'm slaughtering a name. Please forgive me paralegal.

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State's attorney's office welcome aboard, as commissioner frazier mentioned, we did the.

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Walk in the park at crim gold- that's right up the street from my house. They gave me a list of people.

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Attended, I want to give them some credit and read all their names. Michelle melton, susan adder,.

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Paul barkley audrey novak cathy lowe, lauren harrison john hubbs, maggie roser.

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Michelle farino rick meehan bar meehan luanne beck day, who is with lifebridge partnership.

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She is such a special player in making this happen. I want to give a special thanks to her.

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Karen davis and I want to give a real big special thanks to my colleague commissioner frazier. He has.

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Been very active on this, he is my fellow partner in walking and I like that. He recognized how.

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Important, it is for public health to get out and utilize the resources we have with parks and rec.

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Also did well that's neat, the video is pretty cool. Also, did a memorial park story stroll, and that is.

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Through tawny, town parks and rec, along with the boy scouts in the library toy town, recreation.

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Parks, along with the library, have partnered to create a story stroll and memorial park.

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Construction of the story stroll stations was done by william schmock as an eagle scout project with.

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The guidance from community member tim beavers, the memorial park is located off maryland 140 at park.

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Drive in tawny town and I also went out to fleet management and talked to some of the mechanics.

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Out there, here's brian stefan he's working on brakes and it looks like a work truck for the.

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County- and this is mark kennedy- he was out there- cutting some live action photo doing some cutting.

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And welding maintaining a mower for the county. I really want to give these guys recognition. These.

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Individuals out there and these facilities are behind the scenes, keeping everything running for.

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Us and they deserve a big special. Thank you from all of us, so thank you very much. Okay,.

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This week it was my turn to do a chamber breakfast talk and.

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Appreciate those that were in attendance and the dialogue we had over in eldersburg library.

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um And again, credit to the chamber of commerce keeping things moving, and you know the activities.

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That they do, I think tonight, is the kickoff for their. um uh What do you call it? Not shark tank.

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Event, um this challenge yeah their biz challenge uh and that'll, be over in the westminster.

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Mall this evening.

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We did again attend the veterans council. I'm always appreciative of.

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Listening learning to those in attendance and participating, the value of us participating.

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And commissioner weaver shared this with all of the committees and commissions and activities.

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Is really where the rubber meets the road, and you know we, we cannot do what we do unless we.

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Have if we take if we don't take the opportunity to be with our community- and you know, there's the.

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Eyes and ears: it ain't this ivory ivory tower that we live in here. It is the eyes and ears that are.

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In our community that will prioritize the work we do so. The veterans council, the planning and zoning.

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The board of aging disabilities and it goes on and on so I really again appreciate all of that.

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We finished up the sykesville carnival last week and uh I think that went off really well.

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Fireworks were on friday, I'm a proud freedom lion and uh we did very well in the uh french fry stand.

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So um really proud of the work. If people don't know what to join or what to participate in there.

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Are a lot of community organizations like the lions clubs that uh you know enjoy giving back so.

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A little little promo for them this morning. Okay, with that, let me walk into uh a proclamation.

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Commissioner boucher, thank you very much. I appreciate the honor delivering this proclamation.

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I was born in 1967, so I was five years old when agnes flood hit- and I very much remembered even.

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Though it was a child, it was such a tremendous, tragic event to take place and with that.

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Proclamation hurricane agnes remembrance week june 19th 2022 through the 24th carroll county.

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Was impacted by hurricane agnes, which devastated the east coast from july 19th to 25th 1972.

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And 2022 marks the 50-year anniversary of hurricane agnes. This storm remains one of the most.

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One of the worst disasters ever to impact carroll, county or maryland and during the.

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Historic weather event, carroll county experienced widespread flooding in ravine and urban areas.

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This flooding caused damage and flood losses to homes and buildings.

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In the aftermath of agnes nationwide losses estimate estimates exceed at one point, 3.1.

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Billion maryland sustained over 110 million with carroll county's damages estimated at 10 million.

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Including an estimated 5 million in road damage, power, water, sewer and telephone services were.

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Disrupted for days as the water receded, flooding and erosion cost an estimated 1 million in damage.

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To local farms, floods are the most common natural disaster in the united states and can happen.

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Anytime, threatening property life and the economy, a storm of similar strength and devastation will.

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Likely strike maryland again, the reduction of the reduction of loss of life and property damage can.

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Be achieved when appropriate, flooding, preparedness, control and mitigation measures are taken before.

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A flood and public education, awareness of potential weather hazards and other methods.

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Of protecting are critical to health safety and welfare residents, as carroll county reflects on.

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Hurricane agnes and our resiliency during the disaster, we aim to increase knowledge.

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Of flood risks, the availability of flood insurance, flood protection methods and how.

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To prepare for emergencies now, therefore, we, the board of carroll county commissioners in.

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Coordination with the maryland association of flood plain and stormwater managers do hereby.

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Proclaim july 19th to the 24th 2022 as hurricane agnes remembrance week in carroll county and for.

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And further encourages citizens of carroll county to increase their knowledge of how to protect.

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Themselves and their property from flooding the carroll county board of commissioners. Thank you.

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Very much um chris pat did you want to come on up and have a seat? um I think I know the three of us.

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Are old enough to remember hurricane agnes? I was in new jersey and uh driving back from the beach.

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I was not driving, my parents were, and um I just remember signs flying all over the place.

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As we were coming back into the town and uh unbelievable, you know, I think I was 10 or.

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11, whatever it was, but uh just an unbelievable sight so horse of that water was unbelievable.

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I remember seeing where, where buildings were just gone and uh one thing you learned.

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Don't build in a low area right from stormwater management, we're on stilts next to.

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The beach for that matter, I was envisioning commissioner ralstein driving back at 10.

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He's older than he looks anything actually. I was in maryland at that time, so I wasn't impacted by.

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Agnes, as everyone else was, that's right, so, okay, um what are your thoughts, sure yeah.

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uh Just say a few things, commissioner: boucher. Thank you for that. As you mentioned, uh it's in.

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Coordination with the maryland association of floodplain and stomata managers, carroll county.

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About 20 years ago was one of the founding members and we're still active in the association today.

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As as you may not be aware, but carroll county received the most rainfall from agnes in the state.

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Just east of westminster, carroll county is obviously considered mostly a headwater county.

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But when you receive almost 15 inches of rain in 24 hours, you're going to have significant.

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Flooding and part of the idea behind this is a storm like this could happen again at any time.

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And uh we need to uh further educate folks. We need to be ready for something something like that. So.

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um I'd like to touch on, we have a couple websites that we've worked on.

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One is for carroll county and one is a kind of a multi-jurisdictional project with.

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Other federal and state jurisdictions in the mid-atlantic you can find both of those.

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Websites on our website, if you just go to the carolina government site and search for agnes.

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There are about 70 pictures of of flooding around carroll county. It's a really neat project.

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And obviously, I'd like to invite you personally, as well as anyone watching out to.

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The flood zone brewery on saturday we're having an event there from one to four to commemorate.

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Agnes, as you may or may not know, the the flood zone brewery was a grocery store during agnes and.

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They have a high water mark in the brewery. There are a number of photos around the brewery.

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uh And ones that I'll also be displaying at that time, where uh groceries were auctioned.

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Off uh and the building was being cleaned out so like to invite everyone out to that should be a.

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Good time and lastly, I'd like to thank you all for your continued support of our program and people.

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Get to hear me read the proclamation again, that's right, mr varga. I want to let the people know that.

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When I first came on boards county commissioner, I was very much concerned about the flooding and.

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Union bridge and you stepped up to the plate. You took me out there and you showed me the flood zone.

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Area, not the facility, but the actual flood plain itself. You've educated me on stormwater management.

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And you were instrumental in ensuring that that floodplain was analyzed by army corps engineers.

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To recommend what we need to do long term to solve their problem, I just want to sincerely express my.

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Gratitude to you for doing that. Thank you. Thank you guys, chris, you want to do a photo, op sure.

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Don't sound too enthusiastic see if I have to twist my arm get in there.

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I didn't get swept about the blood who wants this.

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I get this thing next to the big guy all right here. Please.

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Hopefully, he's watching.

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That's right, I got to read it again. Second,.

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If I could, before we move on, I just wanted to express my thanks both to pat and to janet for.

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Supporting what pat's been doing he's been doing a phenomenal job over the past couple months.

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Compiling all this information, as pat indicated.

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Public education is a key component of everything that we're doing and what pat has been doing.

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For the past couple months has been absolutely fantastic if you get a chance to take a look at.

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The website that he put together some really great information and and very professional looking.

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And chris, it's becoming more difficult with newspaper not being available and how to reach out.

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To the media to share these type of things, so um I think we just need to be continue to be innovative.

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And get the message out, so I appreciate that absolutely. Thank you all. Thank you.

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Okay, miss steckel maureen. Why don't you come on up and talk.

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About outdoor led sign, purchase of one each, maybe.

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Good morning, commissioners, ladies.

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Carroll county bureau of aging and disability solicit solicited three quotations to purchase one.

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Full color outdoor led sign with a fox brick structure for the bureau of aging and disabilities.

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We request your approval to purchase this sign from fast signs in the amount of thirty nine.

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Thousand eight hundred and seventy eight dollars and eighty cents, this cost includes the material.

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The labor and the installation, this perch, this amount has been approved through budget and no.

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Additional funds should be needed and I'll turn it over to celine and becky. If you have any questions.

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I just wanted to say that we are we're pretty excited about this signage. It's similar to the.

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Sign at workforce development, um so it will allow us to utilize web-based technology.

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To do real-time updates to the messaging on the sign.

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It will be in color, it can provide pictures and really draw the attention to folks that.

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Are driving by and we have a very active road because we're close to the hospital another.

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Senior living agencies where we can market our events, what we're offering at the bureau at the.

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Time and any upcoming awareness days that people should be um thinking about and engaging with.

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Us for so we are, we are excited to have this type of technology installed, so we are hoping.

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For your approval today to move forward with this purchase, how fast will fast signs put the sign up.

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I don't know I'm going to have to go on their website and track how fast they can do it.

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Modern technology, the intent to uh put them at each senior center or just.

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This one at this time, just th. This is going to be our first installation and if, if it works out.

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And we can look at the other locations to make sure.

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How the cost of where the infrastructure would go as far as the electric needed? We certainly want to.

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Make sure that we can look at that option in the future, so it would be great for all the centers.

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This is going to go on stoner avenue or okay, sorry, okay, it's replacing the old county sign.

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The brown signage that all the different county buildings have so we'll be installing it right.

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There so you said the value of the sign. What what would you consider the sign being of value.

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You said um will determine whether to go to other locations by seeing. If this is you know, valued or.

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To determine the value would be: are we drawing on additional people that wouldn't have known about.

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Our programming, if we didn't have that signage out there, are we having a good response from the.

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Senior living community next door, because people are now seeing the sign. The information advertised.

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There- and we have that similar situation in some other communities with our senior centers.

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Like it, um the mount airy senior center, that's close to other senior living facilities and.

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And, and that would allow them the access when they're driving by or going somewhere to see.

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What programming we're offering it's great, it's a different opportunity to get the word out to folks.

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Okay, I'll move the board of commissioners approved the purchase of one full color outdoor led sign.

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From fastsigns, in the amount of nine thousand eight hundred, seventy eight dollars and eighty.

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Cents, second, I got a motion. Second, any discussion on this scene here, none all in favor, aye, aye,.

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Okay, happy advertising celine, you get to stay and you get to talk about approving.

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The transfer of the fy 2022 annual housing bond allocation, so I'm joined by danielle.

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Yates, our bureau chief for housing and community connections and, as you said, we are seeking your.

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Approval to authorize six million six hundred and thirty six thousand nine hundred and thirty.

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Eight dollars in bond allocation to the state's department of housing and community development.

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The maryland mortgage program on behalf of carroll county, this initiative is an annual.

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State bond issue used to promote home ownership. The program offers local governments the.

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Opportunity to partner with the state to provide mortgage funding for first-time home buyers.

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In the last three years, we've seen uh the following growth: in 2019 we had 25 participants.

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With receiving almost five or six million dollars in 2020, we had 49 participants uh receiving.

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Almost 12 million dollars worth of funding assistance and in 2021 we had 37 participants.

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With just over 9 million dollars awarded for their support of purchasing a home, and we are looking to.

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To again, on behalf of carroll county, allow dhcd to continue to administer this for us director.

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Steckel, how successful is this long term? Are these people successfully maintaining our houses.

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Or so that we're aware of yes, so what happens is when they do the maryland mortgage program.

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They're actually offered lower fixed rates and 30-year mortgage terms that you can't typically.

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Get on your own, they also provide lending assistance. As far as for their down payments.

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And they structure things a little bit easier for individuals being the first time home buyer sh.

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Thanks for explaining that, because I was wondering why the private sector wouldn't provide this type.

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Of thing, but we're filling a gap to bring these people up basically and they're successfully.

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Meeting the requirements yes and with the state, of course they already there are over 60 lenders.

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That the state works with in carroll county alone, so they have a very robust program already intact.

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So it's easier for us to let them administer the program and then we of course just um make the.

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Referrals and provide the information to carroll county residents when they come in and ask home.

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Sell fast, how fast are these administered so the kicker is they have to do an actual home buyer's.

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Education class, so they can do that at any time. They're offered in howard and frederick county.

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Very close to us once they get that certificate, they can immediately work with any lender um and.

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Get that qualification and be up and going in no time just curious. I noticed last, I think you said.

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Last year, there's not a million dollars in loans that were put out, and this year it's only 6.6.

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So if you look for this year, 2022 as of the end of february so far, we've had 24 participants or.

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Households and about 6.7 million dollars, but we're not through the fiscal year, so we could get more.

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Money and more people are applying for it: okay, okay, so what happens is while it's a designated.

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Six million: um what happens is the pot there's a big pot that the state has and if we go over.

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That six million individuals just take from that pot as well. Thank you for explaining that. Yes,.

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Well, with that, I moved that the board of commissioners approved the authorization of.

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Six million six hundred thirty six thousand nine hundred thirty eight dollars in bond allocation.

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To the state dhc d's maryland mortgage program on behalf of carroll county and signed a statement.

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Of conditions for participation. Second, okay: I got a motion. I got a second.

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Just comment, and it's not.

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To be callous because I'm typically not.

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You know subsidizing folks um and using our taxpayers, taxpayers money and our community's.

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Money to subsidize folks in buying homes, you know, is challenging sometimes, um and should we be using.

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You know money for this to subsidize. You know 50 homeowners, potential homeowners, you know that's a.

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Lot of money that could be used for other services. So, uh although I think this is a very good idea.

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And necessity, you know to a healthy family and a healthier community. The risk associated with it.

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Is that we're subsidizing? You know at the end of the day, that's what this is. This is.

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A subsidized approach, uh whether it comes from the state or comes from the county or wherever.

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um So doing this, I just want to make sure we're doing this with our eyes wide open, because I I.

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Agree with this, and you know that, um but it it gets to me when I look at things that are.

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Subsidized I'm like okay, how are we subsidizing? This is this. You know a very targeted audience and.

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You know, uh there's got to be a balance, so I don't know if anybody has thoughts on that. Well,.

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I I look at something like this, like an investment in in the community you're allowing people home to.

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Become homeowners that couldn't normally do that because they don't qualify because of the amount.

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Of money they're making or whatever the conditions are so this is an and and as everyone knows, if you.

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Own, the house, it's just it's kind of put more into it. You take care of a little bit better.

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I mean not that runners are bad people or anything, but you know it's just you just it's.

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Just another step up, and I just you're looking at the long-term investment in the community.

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And you know, I just think it is a very good program to have people that can't quite make.

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It, but this will help them, make that step to home ownership that I think that's what we want to do.

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Okay, this is bonding. They pay a loan back correct, correct. It's not like we're just giving their.

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Money we're structuring the loan, so they pay. So what it is is that yes, they're structuring.

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The loan to make it a little bit easier for those first-time home buyers to achieve success thanks.

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For the clarification, but I mean it's still subs, I mean you're still giving an advantage so right.

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That's true yeah I mean I just think it is worthwhile. We know that and we understand we.

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Want everyone to be successful, that's why we've incorporated our housing stability team to work.

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With individuals and we're also looking at getting someone um certified to be a housing counselor.

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As well so you know, we see those needs um we're trying to meet those needs within the community.

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And we hope very soon to have that counselor in place, so we can provide additional supports.

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As well for success, which I understand, resource management is timed people and money. So now we are.

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Spending more money on hiring counselors and others representing our county to support.

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The community's efforts again, I'm not I'm not so much against it. I just want to make sure we all.

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Understand that you know this is another way to subsidize a community to strengthen the community.

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But we're doing it very deliberately um because I want to say being a.

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True conservative, whatever I am, I mean I just believe that we should lessen the subsidies.

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And allow the community to grow on its own merits, but you're right. Sometimes we need.

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A leg up or something to strengthen um but yeah that that's what this is. So that's true and I.

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Have to say about the counselors: if you're going to land people, this money to get their first home.

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We want to make them successful, therefore, the counselors help them manage things and.

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I guess put out a plan, so they repayment and all that stuff. So they know what they're going into.

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And have a little bit more information, the more information you have, the better off you are when.

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You're executing a plan, so I like the idea of the counselors. I like the idea that they have to take.

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Some type of short course before they're eligible for this, because now I'm ready for that loan. I.

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Understand what it takes to repay that loan and I just think it's it's a you know, good program.

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And I have to mention this when I bought my first house interest rates in maryland were around 13.

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Back then, was a while ago it was a different world. There was a program that I applied for, and I got.

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Like, instead of 13.5, I got like 12.0 or whatever it was a little bit lower interest rate didn't.

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Make a big deal difference, but it was enabled me to buy that first house I'd have to go through any.

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Counseling or anything of that sort, but because of that program- and I don't remember the program back.

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Then, but because interest rates were so high, I think they were just offering things like that to.

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People to try to get some home ownership, and it, like, I said, enabled me to have my first house and.

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Now I had a second now I'm on my third house, and it wasn't for that program. What I've got in the.

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First house- I don't know, I might have it anyway, but it did help me to do that. I think this is a.

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Very similar program yeah- and I I agree- I mean, as a veteran I've used the va, which is another.

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Tool to use to purchasing homes that does allow a subsidy that lowers risks or lowers interest or.

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You know no down payments, but I mean again it's just knowing that we're doing this is important.

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So, okay, and in the long term, we have to look at the children that are raising these homes because.

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I think, statistically speaking, children are much more successful in home ownership than transition.

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Around in rental properties, so this is ultimately an investment in our children and their stability.

K

Promoting success with hud and with department of housing and community development is every.

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Chance that we get, we remind them that the funding that they provide and the way that they.

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Create those funding streams really ties to the need for funding for services for housing.

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Also so the support in housing that we have with our housing stability coordinators, because that.

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Is not always funding that comes down through their grants and the different opportunities so.

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That is one thing that we continue to go back, not just our agency, but all the jurisdictions.

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um Are reporting the same that there's a need for funding for these services to help support people.

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Because it's not just the housing, it's the support once they're in there to maintain that housing.

A

Yeah, definitely not the quench. I want this to succeed so and- and I will put this plug.

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Out there it's all about return on investment, so we're more subsidizing folks to keep them housed.

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And to maintain that housing is so much more important and so much more cost effective to.

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Have them housed and do services and keep them you know within you, know, get them and help them.

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To become employed help them to become successful, then we don't have other um things that come up.

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On the back end, where we need to support them in other ways, which is another cost associated, that.

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We'd have to that. The county sometimes takes on, but sitting here making these decisions. We are.

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Making decisions on what to subsidize and what not to subsidize correct, that's the reality so.

A

Okay, I have a motion and a second is any further discussion on this. All in favor all right, good job.

E

Thank you. Thank you. This is very satisfying of a career for both of you.

E

So, thank you for hey approval. No did that water and sewer master plan spring amendment.

D

I think we do this every spring or something seriously.

L

All right good morning, commissioners, good morning good morning, we are here today to present.

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To you the spring amendment to the water and sewer master plan, as you know, we do this about twice a.

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Year, depending on the request, um so we have two requests: one from hampstead and one from union.

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Bridge today and price will present you what he showed to planning commission the other night and.

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um Their favorable recommendation to move forward with this request so with that I'll turn it over.

L

To price good morning, commissioners, as linda said: yes, this is our spring amendment, which we do our.

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Amendments twice a year typically spring and fall. There's a good possibility. You'll see me again.

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Late fall early winter for our fall amendment cycle, but this is for the spring amendment.

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And, as you probably already know, why do we amend this plan? Well.

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The amend the water server master plan occurs every three years. The trillium.

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Update and in the interim time we have what we call biannual amendments, which.

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Allow municipalities providers to update as needed instead of having to wait every three years to.

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To do something, especially if somebody is needed to get in the plan to for.

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Purposes of development that type of thing so they're, biannual individuals can actually.

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Homeowners can actually request an appointment or the town or system operators request amendments.

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Those are the two big ones that actually that actually happen, and every so often staff can.

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Can look at it and do amendments, but typically it is the first two.

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Individual homeowners and then the town sits administrators are the ones that actually.

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Bring the amendments forward to us so, as linda said, we have two amendments: one for union bridge.

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Water and sewer service area and then one for the hampstead sewer service area and for the.

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Hampstead sewer service area. Commissioner weaver already heard this presentation uh this early.

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This week, but that is for the the idea, the ida property, which is industrial development authority.

C

uh Two of their parcels uh track two and tract one of partial, seven, six two, they are uh parcel. Two is.

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Totally within is partially within the uh service, the service area, as is so it's 18 acres, which are.

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In future, with the balance, 21 acres already being in priority, the park, the tract one is totally.

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Within the future aspect, so the town has requested for that portion to come totally in the priority.

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And for the 18 acres in future that are in track 2 to come into priority as well. This will come from.

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The trenton mills farm partnership, they've, reached out to the partnership, have not heard back.

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However, they just with working with them and knowing the trenton mills farm partnership.

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They believe moving them to future and creating the ability to utilize that and from that demand.

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That's in priority right now for the ida isn't the best best for the the town itself.

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And then finally, union bridge uh you'll as you'll see they move forward.

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526 green valley, road and 536 green valley, as you'll see, this is actually part of the.

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Union bridge community soil- that's going in those two.

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The these these two homes that are on those that parcel are in the process of being subdivided out.

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So, as you see the ida properties, this property up here is totally within the future, which we.

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Want to bring into the priority, and then this property, which is the second tract.

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Is split, partial and future partial in in priority, so they want both of these to be.

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Totally in priority to better allow ida to market these properties for development and.

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So anybody that comes in will be able to tie into the sewer service area at this point in time and.

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These properties are currently in the existing or priority for water. This is the trenton mills.

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Property, which is within the city, limits town limits of hampstead.

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So this property will pretty much provide about 75 percent of the demand needed for.

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One for the properties- and there will be some movement of from future into priority. That is.

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Already demand calculated so sort of we're, flip-flopping and bringing in.

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Priority which is needed and put it in a future which, right at this point in time, there is no.

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Possibility or not possibility, but there is no um notion of development going on in the trent.

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Mills, farm property, this portion right here- this is a union bridge and the reason it looks.

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Kind of kind of crazy looking is, I thought, with mde the two houses that are on this property or.

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Down here, underneath this, this rectangle and the the developer of the property again is looking.

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To subdivide those parts, those two homes out that farm out, which is roughly 35 acres,.

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And the balance of it will be the solar facility, the in the meantime, what they're going to do is.

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The developer will actually put in a private it'll, be a private line from those two houses up in in.

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Connecting to the public sewer for for union bridge and also vice versa, the same thing for.

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Water talking with the state, they are okay, with a private easement going up and private sewer.

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And water lines, and with this being mostly in the flood plains you'll see in a map in a little bit.

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There is no further potential force development of that portion. That's going to be so divided out.

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Right now it's currently farmed, and that is what is the the plan is to be for the foreseeable.

C

Future so again, you'll see this is the how the map will look for hampstead. Should these go forward.

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This the ida properties now will be completely in within priority. This will move to future, which.

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Is again seven to ten years, so it still gives them the ability to one day tie into the sewer.

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Service area, but again the town felt that the ida properties are better suited for priority right.

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Now for development, as there may be property potential suitors coming down down the pike.

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Here is the overall union bridge. This portion here is the whole property and then, as you'll, see in a.

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Slide, I believe, for the water aspect. You'll see, there's the potential for subdivision, which has.

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Already been that aspect has been brought forward to to the town is to sort of cut.

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Across this aspect and so divide out the bottom third of the property or quarter of the property.

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Again, the capacity there's a little bit of change.

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As we are moving, some capacity from future into the priority aspect is cumulative, so those future.

C

Numbers, don't don't move, but the priority numbers do go up as we're bringing those.

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Those forward to utilize the demand that may be needed, bringing in those those two parcels.

C

And for the union bridge water service area, it's the exact same look.

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Again, it's the same two houses sort of the same aspect of how they're gonna do, which is a private.

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Easement with private water utilities going up and tied into the union bridge system itself, so.

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Here's the map that I created and sent to mde to sort of give an idea outlined in blue is the.

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Community, solar in union bridge ub, community, solar and the white line is a approximate area of where.

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The subdivision will occur so everything to the north of this line will still be the community.

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Solar and mostly will all be solar panels down. Here is the farm which is approximately 35 acres.

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And if you're able to see the light blue underneath that is all flood plain. So that shows a.

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Majority of the property is within a floodplain and development for further residential.

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Will be tough, so farming wise? It's they've been doing this for I believe centuries, because the.

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Original farm house, I believe, was built in the 1800s and there's a tenant house on site.

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um So that is sort of what we're looking at doing is just bringing those two houses in.

C

Maybe a total of 500 gallons and the reason you may you may notice that the tables have not had.

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Been adjusted for water and sewer for union bridge is being 500 gallons and the different in all of.

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The potential demand that is on the industrial portion of the land, where the solar is going.

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500 gallons would not eliminate anything that could go forward down the road, so that is.

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Is the reason we did not change the tables because, even if we did add the 500 gallons.

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It'd be so miniscule, the numbers wouldn't move at all.

C

Overall, here is the overall of way union bridge would look like so yes, you'd have this the spur.

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Coming down but again is to cover those two properties. The sewer uh the septic system is.

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In the process, so they've looked at it and is in the process of failing the reserve area in.

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Actuality is on the portion of the property that will now become solar, so this is one reason there.

C

They realize okay, we need to do something and as we're as they're doing it.

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I believe their well is doing okay, but might as well since we're going through the process.

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Bring them in so they can tie into to the water surface area, so they may go ahead and tie into the.

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Surface area, so it's all done at once. Instead of having to come back and open up the ground.

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Again, it's going to do everything all at once, put both lines in and then tie in as needed.

C

So what we've done so far as you saw, we've updated the maps.

C

The demand tables both union bridge and hampstead have certified the consistency.

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With their comprehensive plans and master plans, and this past tuesday.

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Carroll county, our planning commission did certify consistency with our comp and master plans.

C

So what we're here today is asking for the board to.

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uh Proceed to a public hearing for the 2022 spring amendment to the 2019 water and sewer master plan.

D

Will this public hearing be one in hampstead and one in union bridge? Are we having one public.

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Hearing be one public hearing county office, yes and we'll be, and should this go forward.

C

With the recommendation of public hearing, I will run into carrick county toms on the 14th.

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The yeah and 7th for the public hearing to be on the 14th. Well, mr wagner, that was a very.

E

Detailed briefing, I appreciate it especially the maps to give us an idea where it's at.

E

Director eisenberg did you have anything to add to this? um No, I do not thank you all right. Well,.

E

Then I move that to bordeaux county commissioners to proceed with the public hearing for the 2022.

E

Spring amendment to the 2019 water and sewer master plan. Second, okay: I got a motion second.

A

The only um comment I'd make is again. Like I referenced earlier, the carroll county times is.

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Getting less and less, uh I don't say valued but subscription, um that's anecdotal! On my part, I.

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Don't know the numbers, but I believe it is less uh so getting the word out for public hearing. I think.

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That is what we do by our rules, um but we do want to make it as available as possible.

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For those that want to participate in public hearing, um so I asked us to look at other ways.

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To get to the communities that are of interest like reaching out to hampton university, hey this.

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Is happening we're putting it in the paper, but please during your next meetings. You know you're.

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uh Council meetings, let people know- and uh you know so it's it's continuing, because we've we've.

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Got to be a little bit more innovative in getting uh the word out, and that's just right at the time.

L

We actually do all of that. The reason we say the carroll county times is maryland. Law requires.

L

To put it in there, so that's why we said, because that is checking the boxes, that we've met. The law.

L

But we do do all of those other things good press releases, we post it on our website. The.

L

Towns are very well aware: they've pushed it out good. The reason we do the hearing here is because.

L

We process this plan on behalf of the towns to maryland department of the environment right.

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So none of this is approved until it goes to md and they send sign back their approval yep when.

F

Was your proposed date again? The public hearing proposed date is july. The 14th.

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Just in case somebody asked yeah, okay cool. I got a motion. I got a second any further.

A

Discussion seen here, none all in favor aye. Thank you good job, very much. Okay. Let's talk about.

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Fy 23 town, county agreements, sykesville hampstead and tonytown mr zalewski.

B

Okay, so we're starting our next round. You have three of the towns have uh sent back.

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Their agreements uh we have sykesville and uh roberta just handed you a spreadsheet that.

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Would probably make this little easier handle? You know we tell you that there's a a gross amount.

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And a net amount, the gross amount is what's determined to be. The revenue sharing number.

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But we have a couple cooperative efforts with the towns. One is the towns pay, the salaries.

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Of two county employees who work with them on water resources and the other is the towns are.

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Putting money into stormwater projects that we are working on collaboratively the two columns.

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With the red numbers, that's the amounts that each of the towns are putting in for those efforts.

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So we calculate the revenue sharing, we take out the amounts that they would have to pay us if we.

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Just sent them a check and then build them for the other things, leaving the the net amount. So.

B

B

Tawny, town or sykesville they'll be receiving a check for 214 thousand seven hundred and forty.

B

Dollars, uh tawnytown would get four hundred and forty eight thousand and ten dollars and.

H

B

Hampstead at hundred and 315 nine dollars, thanks for explaining that when I first.

E

Seen that it was like when you get your paycheck, you see a gross amount in a net.

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Amount, so I wasn't sure what was missing so I appreciate your explanation of that.

B

So we just need uh the commissioner's approval for these agreements and we will send the towns their.

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Money I'll move, the county board of commissioners approved the fy 23 town county agreements.

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With the towns of sykesville, hampstead and tony town second, okay motion. Second, any discussion.

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Can hear none all in favor all right? Okay, thank you! Ted, okay, scott bring us home.

A

Let's first talk about the annual maintenance support and upkeep agreement.

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With motorola solutions good morning, commissioners, good morning, we have four.

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Separate agreements to share with you today, I'm going to explain why they are separate.

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um It is nothing new as far as the uh what's being covered covered, but there is some additional.

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Assets included in the proposed agreement so we're covering all the same assets. The county.

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Has but we're increasing we're proposing to increase things such as cyber security measures.

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Proactive measure that motorola now offers the first item and I do apologize. I believe I have.

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Them, commissioner, correct order of the of the agenda is the as I have it listed as the county's.

H

Maintenance support and upkeep agreement, uh with the exception of the logging recorder.

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Specifically, we're asking to renew the annual maintenance support and upkeep.

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Agreement with motorola solutions to cover a multiple, multiple components of the county's.

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Emergency communication system or network, with one exception this year and I'll obviously clearly try.

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To explain as to why we've changed something we have pulled out. The nice logging recorder.

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Support out of the overall comprehensive agreement, because we anticipate changing that solution. This.

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Year and by pulling it out, it would make that far easier to accomplish than trying to prorate.

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A piece of a complicated agreement: now it's a standalone, didn't cost the county, a dime.

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More to do it that way, the motorola graciously agreed to do it. So the proposed agreement for.

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Basically, what we normally would do, every year, everything from the microwave system or network to.

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uh Our communications equipment at the respective towers uh consoles uh immediate response by a by.

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Hankies radio, et cetera out of frederick all of those different levels of support, are part of the.

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What's proposed at this point, uh the total cost is one million four hundred fifty thousand one.

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Hundred seventy six dollars and sixty two cents, which is uh included in the county's fy23 budget,.

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Not a dime would be spent for this agreement until that budget is in place. This is so that we have a.

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Seamless transition to next year- that's why we're here today and not in in july uh the one thing I.

H

Again, I want to note, is we did add, and I see now that I don't have the the individualized cost any.

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Delineated cost for that, but we did include a new offering by motorola, which is a very proactive.

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Cyber security type um resource they have a knock, I believe, is the right term out in.

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Schomburg and they remotely monitor our system, they do that now, but what they do in response.

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When they have an issue, is they basically post like a bulletin and tell us via email or notify.

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Us hey, something is going on. You need to act which still relies on us to do something. If we don't act.

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Problem goes unresolved, what's proposed, is they will now proactively? Do things so, no matter what.

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They notice, what's going on, they will act to mitigate that immediately, as well as notify us.

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So, instead of hey something's going on, I hope you do something about it. Something's going on.

H

Here's what we've done and as well as notifying us, so that is included in this 1.45 million dollar.

H

Proposal, so at this time, commissioners, I have respectful requests that you authorize us to.

H

Execute the annual agreement for fy23 for our communications system, I'm just not.

A

Used to seeing fy 23 agreement will be borne by the fy 23 budget. No, so.

A

We're boarding something so okay, it must be lawyer words, I don't know I'll make the motion the board.

D

Of county commissioners authorized the director of public safety to execute the fy 2023 agreement.

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With motorola solutions and approve the payment of the resulting bill is proposed. Second, I got a.

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Motion- and I got a second any discussion on this- it's in here- none all in favor, all right, okay, one.

A

Down three to go. Thank you. The next item, as I just explained, we had pulled or removed the logging, the.

H

Data logging recorder out of the agreement we just act- you just acted on again because the intent is.

H

To change that application to a different vendor, a different solution, which is something that most of.

H

Our colleagues throughout the state are doing. They found a solution. They find much more favorable.

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Than our current vendor- and I think that's the probably the nicest way I can explain our desire.

H

To make a change, is we found a much more favorable, much more user friendly solution, the cost? Ninety.

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Thousand nine hundred eighty two dollars and eighty cents is exactly what this agreement.

H

This coverage would have cost, it was included in the agreement. You just acted on. We simply pulled.

H

It out to make it a standalone agreement so that when the anticipated transition occurs, just this.

H

Item is affected and the overall comprehensive agreement is unaffected. So I respectfully ask.

H

The commissioners authorizers executing that agreement, as well as paying the resultant bill.

D

I make the motion board of county commissioners authorize the director of public safety to execute.

D

The proposed agreement with motorola solutions and approve the payment of the resulting bill as.

D

Proposed second, I got a motion. I got a second all in favor aye, two for two. Thank you. I believe the.

H

Third item is the c mark which stands for central maryland area: regional communications, radio system.

H

The county has a an obligation, a legal obligation to contribute a jurisdictional share.

H

Towards the overall cost to support the cmark regional radio system that the cost is 65 000.

H

That is paid in one lump sum that is not paid monthly. It is a budgeted expense. The fy 23.

H

Budget includes 100 of the necessary funding, so no additional money is needed and respectful request.

H

Commissioner's authorization to execute that agreement and make the required payment what.

D

Other counties are included in central maryland area, regional communications. It's the same.

H

Jurisdictions, I believe, commissioners of baltimore yuasi and I should have brushed up baltimore city.

H

Baltimore county carroll, howard, anne arundel, I don't think harford's in it and possibly the.

H

City of annapolis might be a standalone member, but it is, it is the the by default. It is the the.

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Baltimore uasi communications committee, so this is so every all the jurisdictions can communicate.

D

With with each other during an emergency, there are other solutions, commissioner, for that.

H

Inter-Jurisdictional communications, but we have a legal obligation. We've reviewed this agreement.

H

To uphold this this contribution- and there are several sites in carroll, county.

H

That are part of this, so the county does in fact have benefits from this agreement.

D

And everybody pays the same amount that is correct. The jurisdictional.

H

Payment is an equal share, each jurisdiction. Okay, thank you. I move that board of county.

E

Commissioners authorized the director of public safety to execute the reference fy.

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2023 agreement with motorola solutions and approve the payment of the resulting invoice as proposed.

E

Second, okay got a motion. Second, in discussion seen here, none all in favor, all right, okay,.

A

Okay, you got good batting average here. Well, let's I'd love to go four for four last agreement: that's.

H

Going to be totally good wish him on a star or something he might try to strike you out this time.

H

This actually has no cost to the county, makes it easier.

H

This last agreement is actually an agreement. The county enters to.

H

Enters into but the city of westminster funds, and that is to cover their portion, they have an.

H

Enhanced the westminster police department and has an enhanced radio capability that.

H

Other municipalities do not that's why they contribute to the cost, because other other.

H

Municipalities just say, for example, hampstead police department, mount airy police department.

H

They are simply using the system they're. They talk on our radio system. Westminster actually has a.

H

A a very a small but has a a dispatch. If you will consulate kind of capability, they have the.

H

The uh an enhanced utilization capability of the radio system.

H

Than anyone else, that's why westminster and only westminster, contributes this.

H

Agreement is something that the the westminster police department and the city of westminster.

H

Was graciously enough graciously agreed to from the time we transitioned to our current digital.

H

Radio system and the reason is if we were to maintain our system at the level that we propose.

H

And westminster did not maintain theirs at the same level, we'd have a technological disparity.

H

There and eventually could find herself find they could find themselves incapable of using.

H

Our system by them doing this this this piece, this twenty eight thousand dollar piece they maintain.

H

Their piece of the radio system to the very same level we do, which maintains interoperability same.

H

Platform serving no issues whatsoever, so they have agreed to do this uh again since the transition.

H

I we went live, may of 2015, so what's this, the seventh or eighth year that they have done this.

H

Chief ledwell, I spoke with him. He was kind enough to share that. He did not feel.

H

Necessary to be here, I believe, he's monitoring what's going on today, but I interact with the.

H

Chief, each year, when it comes out soon to get a price share with him, I'm not sure.

H

He consults with whoever he's required to about the expense. He gives me the approval to proceed.

H

I simply need the commissioner's authorization to do so on their behalf. We we take their money.

H

We receive their money up front and then we use it to make the monthly installments.

H

On their behalf and combined with ours, have you increased the amount they yes and and that's a.

H

Great uh point, commissioner, this is the first time I've had to ask for concurrence on their.

H

Piece, it's the first time it's over my delegated authority. Again, that's I'll, say the annual.

H

Escalator, but they also have enhanced their level of coverage the same way we have, so it was for.

H

Lack of a better way to describe it, there was two causes of the increase, the annual they maintained.

H

Status quo, plus the additional protection they've agreed to go to so I believe last year was 24 000.

H

24 000 and something was below the 25 000 a delegated authority. To me, as your director of.

H

Public safety, that's a great explanation. I wasn't. I asked you to explain in layman's terms why this.

E

Is necessary, but I think you nailed it. Thank you. Thank you and I know, uh as with other things, that.

H

We've come before the board when you're talking about protection of public safety or welfare and.

H

Security measures, the board has been extremely supportive, which is why we've come forward with.

H

These opportunities to enhance that and ask you to continue that support. Okay I'll make the motion.

D

The board of commissioners authorized the director of public safety to execute the proposed agreement.

D

With motorola motorola solutions as presented second, okay motion; second, all in favor, aye, aye.

H

Thank you very much director campbell, take care of these.

A

Okay, let's go into agendas. Actually excuse me uh any buddy on the phone for public comment.

E

Nobody for public comment today. Thank you. Do we have anything for open admin? Let's be discussed.

A

Nope: let's go into agendas so you're right her at first public leftish public left us.

E

I like the holiday season, okay, monday june 27th. We have nothing scheduled. Neither do we.

A

Have on the 28th on the 29th um mako legislative initiative subcommittee meeting at the farm museum.

A

Okay I'll be attending, I'm not sure.

J

That seems very strange, that's all right, doesn't it, it doesn't seem like it should be something.

J

Commissioner is attending and it doesn't sound like it's something it should be well. The.

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Legislative initiative subcommittee, I will be participating in the farm museum, I'm a bit I'll.

A

Check on confused, but if we can just check on that that'd be great and then uh mako has an interim.

A

Legislative committee meeting where commissioner frazier and wants will be attending then planning.

A

Commission can you check the date on that because I thought it was the 28th yeah. I think it's been.

J

Changed changed the 29th I don't know, but I know I remember seeing the 28th, but whatever I.

D

I just needed to know for sure and then there's a planning commission on the wednesday, the 29th at 6.

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P.M: virtual commissioner wentz will be attending or participating in on thursday june 30th.

A

We have scheduled open session.

A

First on the agenda will be our fiscal recovery fund. Update uh should be very interesting.

A

And miss windham will be facilitating. I think that conversation along with debbie we have.

A

Saturday, transit pilot department of public works see what that's all about a bid. Approval.

A

For meadow branch, road construction prior to the faa grant application.

A

hmm These are some new to me: uh storm drain, repair, laptop purchase and that'll, be it for.

A

That thursday, friday, we have nothing scheduled july 2nd. There is a parade down in sykesville.

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That I'll be participating in love freedom. Thank you. Okay, let freedom ring parade.

A

And then sunday, commissioner frazier you have the podcast.

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The following week, we the office, will be closed. Government office will be closed. An observance.

A

Of independence day, nothing scheduled on the fifth on the sixth is planning commission with.

A

Commissioner, lance uh at six p.m. I something strange: that's not that's not happening. Yeah.

A

Okay, that one's cancelled okay, so wednesday, is open thursday july 7th.

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Fy 21 concurrency management report.

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Merger of services provided by carroll, county and recovery support services facility.

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Led by the health department and then proposal use proposed use for not in carroll funding.

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And that will be again led by dcs, and our health department could be very interesting.

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Friday, we have nothing scheduled. Ninth, we have nothing scheduled, and commissioner boucher has the.

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Podcast on the 10th is there anything that I'm missing at this point, we'll look at the.

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Agendas and if appropriate, we'll can we'll maintain them and if not, there are more things.

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Coming we'll be looking at how, especially on that second week, there are always more that come.

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Right one announcement before you adjourn that's hurtful tonight: that's.

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Back finksburg area planning council is having a meeting and I think it's the.

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Commissioner forum down there, so anybody wanting to attend that's right: cocaine, library, which is.

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The candidates, um the district, oh district, two, so we got, um I was planning to attend. What are.

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Their names- uh that's um dave, reese and um kyler. I believe yeah, kenny, kyler and dave reese, okay,.

F

Yep the meeting, having a form, I think in combination with cmc here so commissioner frazier.

E

Since you're a big advocate of the transportation system, would you like, what's that sorry go ahead.

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Would you like to get an advanced briefing on the saturday transit pilot so before they come before.

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Us get some more information on it, so someone on this side of the bench has a deeper understanding.

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What's coming, I mean I'll call it. Finally, I'm just I'm sure I know, what's going on all right.

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You are a brief joint because I don't know what it's about all right thanks. I appreciate that.

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Appreciate it: okay, anything else, I'm going for your journey second motion. Second, all in favor.

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