Carroll County, MD Board of County Commissioners Open Sessions, 3 Feb 2022

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Okay, good morning, it's february 3rd wow february, and welcome to open session before we get started.

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Please, let's rise for the pledge of allegiance and also for taking a moment of silence.

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And then we'll get started thanks united states.

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I'll tell you I love that pledge every word of it: um okay, let's start with uh priority carol.

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uh District four good morning, thank you very much. Well, this month is black history month, and I want.

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To take this opportunity to mention that the carroll county, historical society, will have a.

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Box lunch talk in honor of black history month on february 15th from at noon until.

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One o'clock it'll be virtual, the topic is creating memorials and it will feature.

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African-American carvers sebastian hammond and caleb mcpeak. So if you get a chance, please go.

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To the historical society's website and take the opportunity to join in and see what we.

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Have in store for you for black history month as the month goes on I'll mention other things.

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Mr swam, do we have anything else here to share with the public this morning.

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There is the trail over the rail trail out in mount area is presently under construction. We've.

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Offered money to help on this through our parks and rec, it's a very beautiful trail. It's a cut.

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Out through the ridge over a mountain area, I took some photos. It's absolutely gorgeous this time of.

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Year with all the water freezing and I'm trying to encourage as many people as possible this time of.

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Year, please get out and hike bundle up and go for a walk. So often this comedian, where we get quite.

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Lethargic and bundle up in our cozy homes, but there's a lot of tremendous beauty out there in.

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Our parks, so please get out there and see those and I'll do a follow up on the reconstruction of.

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The rail trailer mount area- I'm very excited about this. We also have here five marylanders will be.

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In the super bowl this year, this is incredible three with the bengals, as you see here, two with.

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The rams one is from mount airy and I think most of them are down in montgomery county, but it's a.

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Tremendous honor to have all these great athletes from the state of maryland competing in the super.

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Bowl this year, so we'll be rooting for them and enjoy the game. Do we have anything else.

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And that'll, be it all right? Thank you very much. You have a lovely day, okay, district. uh Three, oh.

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Thank you just want to comment the frozen water. They have a new name for that. It's called iceland.

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I'm going to say um at the mako legislative uh committee meeting we had virtually.

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Yes was it yesterday: yesterday we are again had another um rundown of the governor's budget.

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Just I mean we did, I mentioned it last time there were no bills that this time that I.

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Thought were so outlandish that I need to mention them, and actually it's about all that.

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That I did this week, except my other, you know stuff, but it's all I did for the county here.

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um That's about it for me thanks, okay, commissioner! Lance do I get his extra time go for it.

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No, so for those that are the thousands of viewers that are watching this morning, I'm.

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In a different spot, we're trying to distance ourselves, uh I did not demote to the attorney.

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So I want to make that clear, even though I feel like I'm sitting in a hole.

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So, anyway, uh good morning, everybody first off the groundhog is stupid.

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uh Just want to point that out, apparently there's some more weather coming, I think, is that on it's.

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Own is it yeah? Thank you test test. Am I good? Okay, didn't the groundhog die or something well.

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uh Yeah, the groundhog in uh new jersey died, but phil saw his shadow. So you know six more weeks, but.

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Whatever I don't, it was cloudy up there, so I don't know how that happened. So anyway,.

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Yeah so he's only right, like 39 percent of the time.

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uh Which is interesting so he's a weather man, yeah, okay, there you go.

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I would be remiss if I didn't start out by thanking everybody uh that.

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Was involved this weekend with um firefighter paramedic uh bobby jones's.

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Funeral uh it was uh a great day, and uh you know appreciate everybody that.

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Had a part in that, I want to thank director mike robinson for taking the lead.

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We are so blessed to have someone with his level of experience, because, uh just like myself, mike's.

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Been there and done that uh with with the funerals and uh it's it's not easy, it's a huge logistical.

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uh Challenge and uh he he took it and along with a lot of other folks and.

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So it just it went off very well, and I want to thank the folks at reese uh for for providing.

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All the support that they did so uh a a very, very somber day, but a great send-off for for bobby and.

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I want to thank everybody that attended there uh and of course, then yesterday I don't know if, if.

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You had a chance to see um I was going to attend, but then I didn't. uh I watched the whole thing.

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uh They streamed it, the funeral for the three baltimore city fire department, folks, and uh that.

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Was uh unbelievable, uh I know ed, you went, I don't know if that's your first time at delaney valley,.

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With a fire department funeral or not, but I've been there for many times and you know usually the.

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uh The processionals are just if they're, all they're, always very long well yesterday, when.

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The the three fire engines carrying the bodies of the three city, fire departments, individuals,.

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Turned into the laney valley, the back part of it had not left the convention center. Yet.

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So it took a long time and it was a long day and uh you know they. I I followed it all. The.

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Way up until they went to the wake uh at the fairgrounds, but uh just another honorable day.

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And I don't know if anybody's seen or saw uh the police department funerals in new york city.

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They had to they had to shut down fifth avenue. uh There were thousands of police officers there.

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uh But it's just it's remarkable. uh You know the the amount of respect that's being shown.

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To those of us in public safety- and I got to give a shout out- because I think the figure was there.

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Have been 37 police officers shot uh in the month of january and five of them have died, so we're.

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This this this country's in an interesting place right now, is that across the country. Yes, so.

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It's it's important to to remember all of those that are serving on the front lines.

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uh Wherever it is whether it's an armed forces, ed that you respectfully or a part of or those.

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Of us in in fire and police uh it you know, keep keep everybody in your thoughts, not just on the.

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Days that you have to, but every day governor gave his last state of the state address last night.

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If you haven't had a chance to, uh if you didn't get a chance to hear it,.

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uh The the text is out there. I thought uh I typically don't try to get too political here.

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uh But over the eight years that I've served here or almost eight now.

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I've had a tremendous amount of respect for governor hogan and what he's brought to this state.

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And if you read his state of the state address uh it's it's remarkable where we started in 2014.

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And where we are now, I have never had an unkind word for that gentleman and I appreciate what.

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He's brought to the state, and most of that has trickled down to us, which made our jobs easier.

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Here at the local government general assembly aside so anyway get a chance, read his text.

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Also attended uh mako with commissioner frazier yesterday we s well, I started at 9 30 with the.

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Tax subcommittee and about two minutes of one we got out of there. The bills are flying.

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In there and some of them make everybody shake your head, so it's another one of those years.

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Which is always like that in annapolis, so uh commissioner fraser and I are keeping a close.

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Eye on all of those uh with mako and uh we'll have more to come and we're gonna hear from mike fowler.

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Our legislative liaison, who does an awesome job of keeping us informed down there as well so he'll, be.

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Up next and finally, a planning and zoning meeting last night, and that was a good good meeting and.

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We didn't do a whole lot. There we did. We did something that was unusual with a property down.

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In sykesville, apparently, there was some sort of a tag on the property when it came to getting into.

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It that had been there for years, some sort of an easement issue and the gentleman wants to build a.

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Home and wants to be near his son, so we planning and zoning took care of that, but it was an.

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Interesting story and I'm not going to go into it today, but it's one. I've never heard before in the.

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Seven years and however many months, I've been here so very interesting other than that. That's about.

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As busy a week as uh I can report, so um everybody stay safe supposed to be another storm coming in.

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Maybe tomorrow night a little bit of ice, maybe or something, but you know.

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Be mindful uh watch out for one another. Hopefully it will stay.

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Warm above you too, so all right, that's it ed! Back to you. I appreciate it.

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The uh ceremony on sunday was uh pretty impressive. um Stevie did a great job. uh It was very.

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Thank you, professional and very personal um and unfortunately, we're putting those positions and.

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It's it's really sad when those that never worn in uniform believe they know what it's like.

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And uh they don't and sometimes sometimes you just want to hear from the phone.

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Thank you, and sometimes you just want to hear I'm sorry, but those that think they understand.

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And they don't, rather than just keep their mouth shut and those men and women in fire.

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And red and blue, very powerful and the president just moved 3000 more soldiers over to europe.

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And as they raised their right hand, putting themselves.

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Willingly in harm's way, let's keep them in mind, um regardless of the decisions of.

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Our commander-in-chief and others, it's those that are on the ground- that we got to continue.

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To recognize so I appreciate steve you're bringing that up and you did a phenomenal job uh thanks.

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The state of the county is on february 22nd over at the arts center. I look forward.

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To the opportunity to share our insight and thoughts on what we believe is happening in.

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The state of the county or happening in the county and participating in that having it.

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Televised and and pushed for everybody we'll make sure we get it out there.

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The next day we have a joint meeting with the board of education on the 23rd in the afternoon.

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Looking forward to that as they're getting their budget.

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Situated I know commissioner weaver attended the board of education meeting yesterday. uh A lot of.

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Extracurricular activities, I think that we all participate in in making sure that the county is.

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Represented in our county, governments represented in all these boards, and uh you know, commissions.

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And councils, speaking of which commissioner weaver.

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I really appreciated uh his forward thinking in recognizing our veterans and.

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It's starting to shape uh where we're going to have a veterans event on may 15th. Now that.

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Seems still a far ways away, but it really is right around the corner, with all the logistics necessary.

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I'm working with the us army field band uh to get them on board and it looks very uh promising.

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That that's going to happen. We will invite our governor, along with the staff and the delegation.

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Both state and federal to attend, along with the most importantly veterans within our community.

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The target is those veterans that are 30 to 60 years old, but it's welcome to.

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All veterans in 30-60 what I'm sharing is the post-vietnam believe it or not, veteran community.

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Is now 60 to 70 years old, so we're looking at that and their families.

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There'll be activities for children, there'll be activities for adults, food beer.

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Music, lots of things so just more to follow on all of that. um We are gonna, go into uh our legislative.

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Update and then we're gonna have a covet update from, I believe, uh miss sue doyle or dr wack.

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Again, like you shared steve, I really appreciate uh mike's work down in annapolis, keeping.

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Us aware, legislatively of all the activities happening as well as sue and dr wack.

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On the activities happening regarding coveted 19, as it's still, unfortunately with us, I believe.

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There were 10 deaths in the last week here in carroll, county numbers may be going down, but it's.

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Again, embarrassing when people put their head in the sand, thinking that it's just going to go away.

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We've all got to work together. I believe and again I want to preach about it, but I'm looking forward.

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To not having to wear masks, I'm looking forward to not having mandates uh that are appropriately.

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Put in place, um I'm looking forward to a lot of this and I think, working together, um we'll get.

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There- and uh you know uh sooner than later, if we all put the oars in the water rolling in the same.

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Direction so, okay, no more preaching! I apologize mike. Why don't you get on you're on and uh share.

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With us, it'll shut me up and uh share with us what's going on in that booth, yeah hurry up mike.

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Good morning morning, commissioners, it's good to see you all in the same room, we're making progress.

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That's great, um so I'm gonna, I'm gonna, try to move through this quickly. uh There's you mentioned.

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Mr frazier mentioned the marathon we had yesterday. We could do that every day, but I'll try to.

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Move through this pretty quickly, a lot of this will be just quick updates on things that I've.

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Presented to you before and perhaps there's been a a development or a hearing schedule or.

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Something along those lines um and and I'll know one one error. um I've I've made a mistake on the.

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Bill introduction date, so the senate bill introduction date is february, 7th. The house.

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Bill introduction date is february 11th. It follows senate and that's the date at which.

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Bills that are submitted after that date have to go to the world committee. It's a.

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Formality, but it I guess it gives leadership the opportunity to either move something along or not.

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Redistricting there have been some changes there. Of course, the bill and the maps have passed both.

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Chambers, so they are law. uh The challenge is, uh there are going to be or are legal challenges to.

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It uh the sort of thing you're bumping up against is the candidate filing date of february 22nd.

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So uh judge getty has set forward the timing of this legal process, so all challenges have.

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To be made by february 10th, the state is required to respond to those challenges by.

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The 15th and then there will be a conference to schedule the balance of the legal process.

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And, of course, they've got to have some something firm by the 22nd. So candidates know what district.

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They are, they are going to be allowed to run in. Excuse me, mr fowler, if I may, is it possible.

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If the court of appeals overturns and revises the districts would the candidate filing date be moved.

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And potentially or primary didn't be moved, is that is there talk about that? Is that legally possible.

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I I don't know, I'm not a lawyer and don't play one on tvas, probably.

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I thought maybe there might be some buzz about that, because I'm wondering what happened years ago.

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When, actually, uh mr getty, at the time, had filed the challenge, I think they moved in.

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Late that time so potentially might happen again yeah. I think the the primary date is another.

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You know spanner in the works, if you will, if we had a typical primary date in september,.

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It might be different yeah, so I don't know the answer that I can certainly look at. Thank you.

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But but no I haven't heard any indications. I would be surprised if the.

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If if the challenges stand- and that's just my opinion, so let's see how it goes um so.

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Regarding some bill, so, as I said, some of these will just run through very quickly because the.

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You've already heard the substance of the bill and perhaps maybe there's been some minor changes, so I.

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Did want to speak about highway user revenue bill? This is an administration bill, so the governor is.

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Putting it forward it right now, there's uh the sunset date of 2025 for highway user revenue.

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This would extend that beyond and going forward. It also has a requirement there in there that.

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The counties have to produce reports that that try to catalog what funds have been diverted from the.

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County general funds that would otherwise be used for projects funded by highway user revenue and.

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Then a list of projects that have been delayed due to that lack of funding, so that may be a bit of.

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A challenge, but certainly we like the first part of the bill which restores highway user revenues.

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Senate bill 298 and house bill 267 is the the bill to criminalize threats against public.

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Officials and hospital staff members they have their hearings are scheduled in the senate to.

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On february, 8th and in the house committee on the 25th.

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The state board of elections the contract bill, so this is the mako initiative.

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To codify the 50-50 split on expenses between the state board of elections and local boards,.

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Those hearings, one has been they've, actually both been held. uh The senate committee on the.

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26Th and the house committee on just the other day on the on the first.

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The last initiative was the uh reimbursement for ems transport and that committee uh hearing was.

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Held in the house on the 19th, I think apparently went pretty well, but I think there were some.

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Technical issues, I think, commissioner lance you were scheduled to testify, but.

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For some reason, some of that didn't come together. The senate hearings held will be held on the 8th.

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Another one here I wanted to explain. um Commissioner frazier pointed out that.

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My description is bill was not quite what he understood and, as always, he was right.

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So this is uh senate bill 66. So this this deals with the ability of the county as an employer.

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To inquire about education credentials, so it would prevent an employer from inquiring about.

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A prospective employee's level of education until an offer is made once the offer is made.

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Then the the question can be asked. I think the one exception is if this, if the credential is.

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Required for uh licensing so, for instance, if you had an engineer that had to be licensed, they would.

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Actually, obviously have to have that degree, so I appreciate that that question last week.

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Commissioner, frazier uh the family and medical leave bills, there was one introduced, we talked.

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About last week, which establishes the leave insurance program, where I'd say, funding shared.

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Funding between the employer and the employee that that bill is is likely to go away and be replaced.

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By house, bill 496, which is which includes the insurance but also creates the program.

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That's been, the sponsor is the chair of the economic matters committee.

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This is a bill. That's going to pass a little bit difference in how they describe.

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The contributions the insurance program will be funded by up to one percent of employees, wages.

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And then the employer will match that amount by 50, so this will be a pretty significant hit.

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That may goes all over this one. As you heard senate bill 419 is the opioid restitution.

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Fund bill, this uh appropriates the settlement. Funds based on the settlement so codifies.

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The settlement that was uh reached by all the parties, including carol on the 21st of january.

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Workers, compensation and occupational disease presumptions there's two bills right now,.

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The first, I think we spoke about which is uh uh relating to first responders, public safety and.

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Healthcare employees, no uh no hearing- has been yet scheduled. There's a second bill that is directed.

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Specifically to 9-1-1 specialists, that's come out of the 9-1-1 commission, but not part of the.

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Omnibus bill, no hearings have been scheduled in either committee for that bill, but it is being.

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Opposed by imago, basically on fiscal, on a fiscal standpoint, I spoke to you last week about the.

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Local state and local procurement, where it would require it, would reduce the times that.

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The state must pay invoices and changes the date at which interest would accrue on that outstanding.

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Invoice, it also requires the counties to adopt that position. So the house committee hearing.

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Has been scheduled for the 15th again, counties are opposed to that, and the other procurement bill was.

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On prevailing wage, we talked about that last week, applying to hvac systems and going forward for the.

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Life of the system uh that hearing is scheduled for the 10th of february in the senate committee.

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Senator hester's introduced the bill senate bill 113. This has to do with basically septic systems.

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The hearing was yesterday, senator hester has been working with mako and a number of of.

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Stakeholders and she has agreed to amend the bill. It includes additional staffing for mde the.

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The issue is really about inspections um and and mde is coming under a lot.

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Of pressure, I think we talked about this- has come under a lot of pressure in this session.

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For it's perceived inability or stated inability to uh to inspect necessarily and to basically.

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Enforce so there are a couple of bills that that deal with that her bill would uh would again.

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Increase the funding for additional staffing and the big change that the bill initially.

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Would move this oversight from the department of health to maryland, department of the environment.

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That has changed, it will remain in the department of health, so that was a really good development.

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Another bill regarding wastewater services.

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This establishes a training and credentialing regime we've seen this bill before establishes.

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An oversight board for installers designers and installers. It will not uh affect uh local.

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Government employees so there's been a carb out there. That was a that was a good uh good result.

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uh The task force home recycling policy, we talked about that. uh The hearing was in in the senate.

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Excuse me in the house committee yesterday uh house bill 22 senate bill 221 is the enforcement.

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Authority bill uh again, that's what I spoke of where, where the ag is is pressuring mde to step.

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Up its enforcement increase fines, adding administrative penalties, one one big issue that we.

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Take is that it removes the word willful in there, and it it also would would would threaten uh with.

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Some type of enforcement, an employee who's just doing their job. So that's that's very problematic.

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And and mego is working hard to address those issues. uh The pfas bill was heard in the senate.

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Yesterday, mako's position has been basically either allow fire companies to use their existing.

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Stock or to develop some type of buyback program uh could it could be very expensive for companies.

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That still have a stock on hand and can't use it and would be required to go out. And not only.

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Dispose of what they have but go out and purchase purchase new mold bill was heard yesterday in the.

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Senate and it's scheduled for a hearing in the house committee on the 9th and then senate bill.

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492 and house bill 649 that's discharge permits. It would limit the administrative continuation.

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Of discharge permits and set compliance terms, and the enforcement regime, including fines.

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And again, this is another one that goes to that issue of enforcement. There there have been.

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Apparently, some permits that have been extended for very long periods of time uh without being.

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Revisited that that that's an issue uh for for the ag and some of the advocates, uh so the the.

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The senate committee hearing has been scheduled for the 16th nothing yet in uh in the house.

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The use of video recording devices in special ed classes as a hearing tomorrow, one bill that that.

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We discussed to mako yesterday is increase funding for libraries and regional resource centers.

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This would increase the state share of funding to these entities. It's interesting that almost.

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All of the counties, if not all of the counties, are funding well beyond what they're mandated to fund.

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And so this push is to try to get the state to step up their their side of the equation.

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House bill 365- I might have mentioned this one to you last week. This is a a bill that would.

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Prohibit a county, why wouldn't prohibited county would allow the county.

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To either construct or replace an hvac system that was fired by.

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Fossil fuels, but if that happens, the state would not consider it a capital expenditure.

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And thus would not fund it. uh That's going to be heard in the house committee on the 15th.

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Excuse me heard it on the 8th.

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In regarding local government, uh the referendum request bill that was heard in the house side on.

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The 18th nothing yet in the senate, uh the open meetings act. The issue we have with that is a.

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Turnaround of two days is basically impossible to meet, so that was heard on the 25th. Nothing yet.

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Hasn't gone to the floor yet and the new bill we heard yesterday was.

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Minimum compensation for election judges it would set the minimum compensation.

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At 200 per day, uh I think he said that right now, prince george's is, I believe, the only county that.

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That is at that level or above and the the request is to ask for state funding for that. It's again.

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A fiscal issue for the counties: uh the bill that you asked, the the delegation for senate bill 371.

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Is the authorization to conduct a criminal history background.

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Check that is going to be heard on the ninth. This is one that we would obviously need to.

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Submit a letter of support, so I would ask that you would take a vote and give us the authorization to.

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Do that and prepared some language we can get in front of you and get that into the committee.

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You let me know if you want to do that now or you want to wait until later in the.

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Session well moving forward with a letter we can craft and then it would be stacked through.

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Us for approval, so I think uh you know we should be okay. At least you know at this point drafting.

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That letter and using your support and getting the right verbiage in um and then once it's drafted.

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It'll, be you know, roberta will staff it through us and we'll make the vote at that point. Would that.

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Suffice absolutely yes: actually it is drafted. So, okay, good, we're happy. Okay,.

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Good makes it yeah so we'll we'll move forward upon the uh bond scene. The draft yep very good.

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uh Senate bill 352 uh in house bill 329. This is a uh one of the one of the several bills that adds.

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Additional delays. Excuse me additional days for the processing of ballots. The the election boards.

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Have sought some relief here because uh they're concerned that the time it takes the amount of.

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uh Earl of absentee ballots that they will have to compile and tabulate address discrepancies.

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Is very compressed and in order to be able to get the the process started and and be able to.

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Publish results in a reasonable amount of time following closing the polls, they need some help.

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There so that's what senate bill 352 intends to do, and then there is a another bill. The voter rights.

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Protection act house, bill 538 that adds three additional days to early voting. So right now.

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Early voting ends on the thursday before the election. This bill would extend it through.

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Sunday, it is cost prohibitive, so the counties have agreed to oppose that bill.

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Moving into public safety senate bill, 57 and house bill 437 communications and hope, state.

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The answering points this would pre criminalize malicious attacks, primarily swatting, which is.

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Someone calling in an emergency to try to get a police response that was heard on the 19th in.

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The senate and will be heard on the ninth in the house committee and then a second bill similar.

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To that would criminalize false statements and basically interfering with the 9-1-1 system and.

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That one is primarily addressing targeted hacking, cyber threats. I apologize what what is swatting.

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Spawning is when you you, you call and uh and report a false.

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Claim about some issue and in order to to try to get a police response so like a swat team.

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Out there, okay wasn't this on the national news once where someone actually got killed when the.

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Police showed up their house or something I think, that's what precipitated this nationally.

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More than once, it has been a couple times, basically, a diversion of.

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Law enforcement resources; okay and can't yes and can be very dangerous. Yes,.

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uh Senate bill 31, that's another one. We talked about last week that was heard on the 19th.

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This basically just tries to prohibit release of certain sensitive aspects of footage.

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Same with house bill 162., we talked about that.

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Still no hearing scheduled on that. That's the one there where the the state would assume the cost to.

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Purchase maintain the equipment and also create state depository for the video footage.

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9-1-1 registry program talked about that the autism and special needs. The hearing was.

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Canceled and the house has not been rescheduled to date, so not sure. What's going on with that, one.

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This one, the senate bill, 12 and house bill 129, behavioral health crisis response, talk.

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About this a little last week where this, the existing behavioral health crisis response grants.

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Program will be tied to limiting police involvement in mental health response.

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It was a little rigid, and so so mako is trying to work with the sponsor to get an amendment.

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And apparently they're making progress to allow a little more flexibility in there.

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You know the counties, the county law enforcement.

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Organizations do want to work toward this, but they don't want to be restricted in how they.

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Do it, it needs to be done done properly, so sort of a one-size-fits-all is a challenge for them.

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Senate bill 330., we talked about this one senator reedy's bill that would require.

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You to establish uh guidance and direction for citations and enforcement by the health.

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Department and then require you as the board of health to be sort of the.

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The the referee on any appeals that would come in that's got a hearing in finance on the eighth.

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And uh mako is going to oppose that, so we don't necessarily have to take a specific.

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Position on that and then uh another bill we heard yesterday senate bill 394 in house bill 408. This.

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Is a statewide targeted overdose prevention act, so this would require public and private health care.

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Providers to dispense knox alone free of charge under certain conditions, establishes those.

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Those criteria there's a hearing scheduled in.

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The senate committee in finance on the 17th no no hearing yet scheduled in the house committee.

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And let's see house bill 427, uh this is one that.

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You agreed uh with your fellow counties to support with an amendment. uh It would.

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uh Criminalize, obstructing or otherwise, impeding official proceedings of the legislative for.

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Executive branches, so as the bill is written, it covers the state, executive and legislative.

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Branches, the amendment is to request to include counties in that, and I know commissioner, wants.

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You had some questions yesterday. I don't know if you wanted to weigh in on that one.

E

No, I was just mainly, I was concerned that you know what I mean. Maybe this is what's good for.

E

The goose is good for the gander type issue. If we're going to do a state law to protect.

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The legislative uh folks and at the state level, then certainly it should be uh shared with.

E

The with the local level- uh I was a little bit concerned uh about who indeed would enforce that.

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uh I you know, I brought up that if, if it got to that part of where we were, we had a issue.

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With that, you know, is: does a police officer run in the door and take the individual out or whatever.

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But I was assured that this mainly applies to if the state's attorney decided after he saw it,.

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He or she saw it that then they would bring charges against the individual. So it's more.

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It's it's more to that, and not necessarily someone creating a ruckus, uh which is where.

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I thought it was going, so that's the question I had mike so yeah and they answered that and I.

E

Appreciate that I think it's a good bill, but it it needs to definitely have that amendment that.

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It comes down to our our level as well at the county levels.

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uh And lastly, uh the legionnaires disease prevention act. I brought that.

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Up to you last week, that's the one that would require some type of.

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Establishing and implementing a water treatment program uh through the the pandemic. Many.

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Buildings have been either underutilized or closed that creates conditions that could.

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Lead to the bacteria developing that that causes legionnaires disease. The hearing was yesterday.

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Mako again is in opposition because of the the very high cost of this as it's written.

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uh Perhaps there's a a better way to go about it. That's uh not just one-sided through the entire.

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So the only thing I'll mention in closing is next week, we'll probably be talking a lot about.

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The climate solutions now act of 2022.. This is uh basically a reprisal of last.

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Year's climate bill omnibus climate bill uh that didn't actually get to the floor.

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uh It just ran out of time. I think there were. There were some disagreements between.

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The house version and the senate version that just couldn't get uh couldn't get cleaned up before.

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Signee died so obviously they've been working on that over the interim. There was discussion.

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Early that the house may take a different approach in breaking the bill up in into pieces.

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They have issued a climate bill as well. I haven't had the opportunity to dig into that one, but.

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This is going to be a big deal because it, as we talked about it last year, extensively, it gets into.

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Energy efficiency and building standards, employment, it's a very wide, ranging bill. So.

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We'll have a probably we'll take up most of the discussion next week. I would think.

A

Okay, thanks mike any uh comments yeah mike, I have a question for you uh house bill 162.

C

Do you think it'd be worthwhile for it's about the body cameras um for us to have a letter of.

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Support go in with that just because, if the state is going to pay for the.

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Cameras and maintenance and all supporting systems would certainly help out the counties to have this.

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Bill move forward, I don't know what you feel about that or what the other commissioners feel.

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You're, certainly free to do that. Mako is is weighing in on our behalf, but we're certainly.

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Free uh there there obviously wouldn't be any conflict. We would just be continuing.

A

Okay, I know what you other commissioners feel. Should we put letter support in or.

E

Got to turn my mic on, I don't have it yeah, that's fine. I mean if there's value to it,.

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Then yeah, why not I mean if they're going to this bill, they're going to pay for the.

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Purchase and maintenance and right cameras and the uh the systems the storm not stuff.

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That's a tremendous amount of money, absolutely we're still going to have to pay for the personnel.

C

But that's fine, but this is more of like a 50 50 split. You know. Maybe not, but you know what I mean.

C

Yeah sure I don't have a problem with it. The only uh the only thing that I would say is a little bit.

E

Deeper dive, perhaps because I do think that we all have seen that the the majority of the cost here.

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Is with personnel that is true, that's true! Now we're going to be able to save some pennies.

E

Obviously, with equipment- I I get that, but if there was a little bit more help on that side,.

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Of it and then there was some question about well: if the state sets it up, how do we get the.

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Right, how do we get it back to us us being our state's attorney when they need.

E

To to look at it, and wouldn't it be better for our local folks to be able to look at.

E

This instead of it going somewhere and then coming back and then so, there's there's some details. Yeah.

E

The devil's in the details with this, but all of that hasn't been worked out from my.

C

Understanding right clearly yet, but I just think it's something we. We could write a.

C

Letter to support and maybe have that put in there, but I think all those things are already.

C

Gonna be mentioned by mako, because yeah I'm fine with that. Let's just make sure that that.

E

That the language is not in there, that would create challenges, and maybe mike you could.

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Do a little deeper dive into that to ensure that that's not in there and and doing a letter.

A

Of support, also, you know, gets us on the table. You know right um and gets kind of our nose under the.

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uh Proverbial tent to start having more discussion so yeah, I think it's a a good idea. Yeah I mean.

C

There's there's no hearing schedule for that yet, but I think that that bill is going to be.

C

An uphill battle because of the state will have to put the money up for it yeah. So I think if we.

C

Could support that maybe move it along and I guess we'll leave that in mike's hands and things always.

B

Wind up costing more than you anticipate too I'm looking at potentially what the state's attorney's.

B

Office ought to deal with all the I.t and the compliance with evidence and storing and all.

B

Yeah it'll get quite expensive as this unfolds and it's required for us to have body worn cameras by.

C

I can't remember it next year: no 25 whatever it is, but yeah yeah, you know, but so it's going to be.

D

Required so it'd be nice if the state picked up part of it anyway. I definitely would okay.

A

Anything else for uh mike chris do we have any public comment for uh our legislative update.

A

Yes, sir, okay, thank you so much mike. Thank you, mr fowler. So uh let's move on.

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And is it sue or is it dr wack or.

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Maggie um sue, okay, again, thank you so much uh taking the time um sharing with us. uh You know.

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Your thoughts and ideas on what's happening moving forward so good morning, miss doyle.

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Good morning and things are moving in the right direction, so I'm really happy to be here. This.

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Morning um next slide so just the same general messaging that we're continuing to send out.

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Is even though cases are decreasing, we're still recommending that everybody wear a well-fitting.

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Mask in public and around people at high risk um avoid crowds and practice social distancing.

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Make sure you're gathering outdoors when you can or increasing ventilation indoors.

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Postponing travel or gatherings, if possible and testing when you're symptomatic um and that's.

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Been our biggest issue right now, as people are think it's a cold or think it's the flu.

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And they're not really testing for covet, so you can go on so our daily cases are decreasing and.

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Our statewide positivity rates down to 7.7 percent, which is in the moderate rate, hospitalizations.

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Are lower than last week significantly, but our transmission rate still remains high.

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Next slide, so here's the carol view our data is through the 1st of february.

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So we've had 389 new positives since last week's report, positivity rate in carol remains in the.

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High transmission rate at 12.9, we want to see that below eight percent. If we get below eight percent.

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For two weeks in a row, then um we can start removing some of the masking.

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Requirements: we've had seven deaths since last week's report next slide.

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And this is the carroll county data of confirmed cases by week, we'd like to see that downward.

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Trend, it has come down just as fast as it went up, so that was what the prediction was.

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And that these do not include a lot of the um over-the-counter test kits that.

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Have been sent out are not being reported, um there is a report. It's on our website.

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It's on the state's website to report those. If you do test positive on a home test kit.

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You should definitely go to the portal enter your information, especially if you need to.

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Be off of work because that portal is going to give you the opportunity to get the covet link.

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Covered link will send you a let a letter when you're finished your isolation. So a return to.

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Work letter so that you don't need to get that somewhere else or go to a doctor next slide.

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Okay, here's carol's hospitalization coveted data, as you can see, I can't see, but you all can see. I.

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Think um we're trending in the right direction. We had a little bump last week um in our new.

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Curvative nets, but this week we're going down again. Renewables that are fully vaccinated um can.

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Continue to go down and the new it mets that are not fully.

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Vaccinated kind of a little level off they've increased a little bit this week next slide.

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I think we added some new new slides this week, for you, um the icu and uh cubase are being.

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Used for cova 19 cases at carroll hospital are trending down, which is where we want to see them.

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And so our icu bed usage for kova 19 is looking wonderful right now and uh oh go ahead.

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Next slide: okay, so our code does we? You know this information does lag. So you know these. This data.

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Is the week of january 23rd through the 29th, and these will change over time, but we're still we're.

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Coming down, we peaked out at 17 deaths in a week, but we're down to six. As of the 23rd next slide,.

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All right, um so our coveted 19 deaths by age. This is a new slide this week, um the unvaccinated.

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Since the 26th of december were 36, we broke out. The age ranges we're able to get to some of our.

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Data now, which is lovely so there were 13 people between the ages of 40 and 59.

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23 of the individuals that were unvaccinated were 60 plus um and the age range was 41 to 92.

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And the average age equaling 67. um are vaccinated, but not boosted were seven deaths.

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Zero were in the age range of 40 to 59, seven of them were 60 plus and they ranged from 62 to 94.

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With an average age of 80. or vaccinated and boosted were nine people admit.

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Deceased, um all of them were 60 plus and the age range there was 61 to 98, with at.

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The average age of about 80. um of the 13 coven 19 deaths that occurred in restaurant.

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Residents under the age of 60, since the week of 12 26, all 13 were unvaccinated.

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Next slide, I think this is just a bar graph that kind of shows up there. It is so it shows 54.4 as.

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Not fully vaccinated of the deaths um in january 2022 and 11.1 as fully vaccinated um the death.

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Rate for the county residents who are covered, 19 positive and died, was nearly five times higher. So.

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Now that we're able to get to some data we're able to give you some new information, total vaccines.

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Administered you can see our numbers are going up for fully vaccinated we're at 71.2 percent.

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I believe our go ahead next slide. um I don't know if we put it in here or not. Oh yeah, we did.

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um The population vaccinated for five to nine- these are not the exact um age ranges. This is the.

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Data we can get to. Is it almost at forty percent, which is a great number um to have, and all of our.

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Other numbers have increased slightly in uh fully vaccinate. At least one dose excuse me next slide.

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And our service updates um for the month of february, all of our clinics are going to be.

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Afternoon and evening they're all continuing at carroll community college. They will be wednesdays.

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From 3 30 to 7 30. fridays from two to five and I believe, they're working on a couple of.

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Maybe weekend, clinics for um the five to eleven testing remains at the ag center monday through.

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Thursdays from nine to one we continue to have uh the national guard out there, assisting us.

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Test kits uh were sent out this week through the libraries um they're still very limited.

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You can still go on in order from the federal government, although I will share that. I ordered.

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Mine 15 days ago, and I have not seen it or seen, an alert that it was on its way. um You can.

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Mask were just were distributed through the libraries. I believe there were 7 000.

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Masks pushed out last week and also area pharmacy chains should have them uh wall.

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Mart walgreens and cvs, but it does vary by location. So we're asking people to call.

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First, before they try to go out and get those, we will continue to order a mask and push them out.

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Through the libraries and through some other sites, as we go, that's the last slide. I think.

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So we have any questions: okay, thanks uh chris, if you can take down the slides.

A

Bear with me, okay, a couple things first and foremost sue and your entire team. Thank you.

A

The vaccine van or whatever the off-site um effort done at the maintenance center. I believe.

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Went extremely well and uh very positive results of those uh wanting to get vaccinated and given.

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The opportunity so again, sometimes you know getting the horse to the water they will drink.

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And that's kind of what happened on this one and I really appreciate.

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um The county and the county government recognizing the importance of vaccinations.

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And doing what's right, um you mentioned the masked mandate as far as percentages.

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What you were, I believe, referring to was the state. You know understanding about mass mandates.

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Currently, carroll county does not have mask mandates to the public we never have and to.

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This date, we don't, uh unlike howard, county and anne arundel and all the others that surround.

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Us baltimore county. uh They do so those that say that they are different than we are and they're.

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More conservative, that's not! We have a mandate in place for government facilities at this time.

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um What I'd like to do is open this up. We could do it open admin, but I think it's appropriate.

A

Because you're on and you can be a part of the conversation, the state of emergency was lifted.

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By maryland- and we have ours still in place um with the understanding, what.

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Right, I I apologize. The state of emergency was left in maryland.

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um The question is the only mandate that we have in place right now is masks in government.

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Buildings and with the numbers the way they are, you know uh understanding the risk associated with.

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Taking that off the table, I know harford county recently did um but they're the only ones.

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um But it's my recommendation to my colleagues and to you sue is that we lift that off the table and.

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Do away with mass mandates in government buildings um I'll open it I mean steve.

E

So the positive benefit- I know I know the the positivity rate is still sue. What what did you.

E

Say the positivity rate was again: there could remind us of that so carroll, county's positivity.

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Rate, I believe, is 12.99 and you and you had said that you you wanted to get it below what so the.

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Recommendations from the cdc are that we could drop mass masking in public places for social.

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Distancing is no more under eight percent okay for two weeks transmission right, but we don't.

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Have them in public places right right, so I I do think that we're getting closer here to where we.

E

Should make uh some sort of a decision here? uh I also think it's it's very important that.

E

That we continue, I don't want to. I don't like mandate, I never really did, but.

E

Strongly recommend uh visitors to this building, especially uh those that are coming. I I.

E

Was in the lobby for a while yesterday, I've been known to hang in the lobby here.

B

Well, I don't know yeah, maybe, and I was watching people in and out and all of them were very.

E

Respectful and because there's a lot of folks that are paying their tax bills is why I was standing.

E

There I was standing down there. For other reasons. It was a little bit of a ruckus, but anyway.

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Wasn't anything major uh anyway, it was. It was good.

E

To see the folks that are doing that, so I still think we should strongly recommend.

E

Those that are coming into our building and if our employees are comfortable when they're.

E

Interacting with the folks like permits, and what have you, the collection is a little bit different.

E

Because they're sort of behind you can't even they're behind and there's only a little place to.

E

I hate to use scoop because you're going to look at me, it's all good to put their thing, so I think.

E

They're, you know they're, probably in fine shape, so I think, if you're comfortable in your work area.

E

I think it's, I think, we're we're good, but I also think we should continue to strongly recommend.

E

Visitors to this building to to have them on and perhaps if they're in a meeting with.

E

Our staff, our staff, can say: hey, you know, I'm good. If you want to take that off, uh you know.

E

And it's the same, it's sort of a hybrid yeah. It's it's not, but it's sort of a hybrid method. Here I.

E

Don't want to go all in right and think: okay, we're done. Let's go! No. I want to continue to.

E

Be mindful here because I agree, I think it's important to do that- we're not there yet.

E

We're this close, so I don't want to take our foot off the gas yet so that's I that's what.

A

I would like I agree, and I think, in addition strongly recommend to our employees and our.

A

Workforce right, if they feel comfortable wearing a mask, you know I I'm noticing more.

A

In shopping centers and those that are out there, they're wearing masks yeah um because they feel.

A

More comfortable because they want to get rid of this crap yeah and they I agree with them. The the.

E

Only thing when it comes to our buildings, where I have a little bit of a issue, is in our libraries.

E

I I gotta be clear that they make their own decisions. Do they? Okay, all right! That's fine!.

J

They make their own because it's always been under the assumption that there are buildings so.

E

They are our buildings, but early on okay. As long because people go in there, yeah they've followed.

D

Yeah, that's what they did, that you know people go in there and they linger for long periods of.

E

Time you know here in this building unless you're in an hour meeting or something you're internet.

E

You're paying your tax bill you're in you're out, so you you're, really not even under that 15 minute.

E

Exposure area, if you will but in the libraries that's a little bit different. So I don't know.

E

If we could, if we could carve some sort of a you, know, best practices, common sense, usage.

E

Sure thing here sure I I think I think that's a good idea and I think uh if we lift this directive.

A

About masks in government buildings with that put in place, we are taking risk.

A

Because the county is not below the eight percent, although the state is- and it's still, we still need.

A

To encourage vaccines, I mean we're getting there we're doing really well, but- and I don't want to.

A

Slow that down- but you know I think, uh right now- it's the right thing doing that the risk.

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uh Is out, you know, is there um the the other thing and I hate to keep tapping here.

E

But I think we should still continue to put an emphasis on limiting people in our meeting rooms.

E

And being very mindful of what the correct.

E

Number of folks are allowed in our rooms specifically here and in the reagan room.

E

I think we should continue that and still provide the ability to be hybrid for those.

E

That wish to do that. Absolutely so. All of that I mean, I know that's a lot, but I'm just I'm trying.

A

To to get a happy medium here, I think that's fair to hear you know I think uh a hybrid is.

A

Is important because there are folks- and I want to respect those, but um I do know we have a caller.

A

On but I want to get through us before, I have to say I agree with everything you're saying.

C

Except I think we should wait till next week, just because it's 12.9 right now, that's just.

C

My opinion- I I realize I'm in the minority right now, but I just have to give it out there well, I.

E

Do agree what I think you're saying yeah, I'm not too sure you're in the minority dennis. I would I.

E

Mean I would go so far as to say, beginning monday, or something or tuesday I don't know yeah. I just.

C

The numbers are going down and they're going down consistently. I just think one more week.

C

They'll be down exactly where you're thinking next thursday. Yes, if I may, if you don't, I mean.

C

We all can discuss it if you want to wait till monday I'll be happier with monday than I am today.

C

The the key is to me: we went from 1356 to 474 in the last two to three weeks right. That is.

A

An incredible steep um and but it doesn't show any indication that there should be a.

A

But yeah we don't want to mess with that. Oh I know I know, but but I mean I I think it's it's such a.

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Steep that I don't think we would, because all we're doing is controlling this.

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Right facility we're controlling a thousand folks give or take, um and that's not going to change.

A

This um we we do not you're right, and you know what I mean. We do not mandate the public and.

A

That's what right so we're talking about intention, but I'm just thinking for our.

C

Buildings for our employees for our people, I'd feel better doing it next week. I understand.

C

That's just my opinion. Okay and you guys can yeah. Can I add something for you all. Last week's last.

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Week's transmission rate in carroll county was fifteen point nine. What was that? One? Okay.

E

Fifteen point nine okay right so went from so I just thought that might add some value.

A

No, I appreciate that so that that's important it went from fifteen nine to twelve nine in one week.

A

Again, we're talking general population of the 170 000, not this, although it's a microcosm, but I think.

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We are doing much better being vaccinated here here, early right, so we're safer.

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And we're really proud of that that we are setting an example. You know and again sue you're, leading.

A

That charge with your team, so if you had the same change numerically, not percentage-wise would be.

J

Closer to that eight percent right exactly well, it would be, but let's remember now: that's the county.

B

Okay, I think we might have a little bit of a lag in numbers. I think it was alluded to earlier so.

B

Actually, right now our numbers might be a little bit lower, but haven't shown themselves so in their.

B

Data and I like the points that commissioner williams made, I think for a long time- we will.

B

See senior citizens coming in they're building mess and rightfully so they have a lot of state.

B

And I think it's best for us to respect those wishes of those people who want to maintain their.

B

Mess and will come in the building if they're senior citizens, because we see the numbers.

B

You know the the fatality rates are up in that most vulnerable sector and anything we can to.

B

Accommodate their needs and respect their desires, I think it's a wonderful idea. So if the motion was.

B

Made I'll second, the motion, or I believe, or did I didn't, make a motion, I'm still, I'm still thinking.

E

um But I do think strongly recommend to your point. It needs to be, and I don't care what age you are.

E

Right exactly you know strongly recommend still provides the opportunity for those.

E

Not to feel pressured if you will and that's sort of where I am, but I'm.

E

I don't know if I want to wait all the way till thursday right, but if you want to reach.

E

A happy medium and let's finish this week and say beginning monday, at 0 800 hours whatever that date.

E

Is uh this? Is the policy moving forward? I could go for that. Dennis I'd be happy with that as well.

C

Okay, so before so, I absolutely agree and we can make that motion.

A

I do know there is a caller so before we get into that chris, do we have a caller on the phone.

A

Regarding this topic, I do not know what topic they are calling it on, but let's find out. Okay, let's.

K

Yeah hold on new system here, trying to figure this out. This is like phone, a friend on that game, ship.

B

With all new systems comes glitches, I thought chris was an expert.

A

Chris, I take it you're still with us, I'm here I'm trying to unmute the caller.

K

That we muted and it does not allow unmute.

A

Okay, they don't they don't have to I'm no expert here. They don't have.

E

To star six or anything, do they chris? Because that's what I've been trying now.

E

I was in a meeting the other day and I had to star six dude. Do you have a question you have to.

K

Do that no there's? No, I can't there's no way I can okay. So I I appreciate uh colleagues, my colleagues.

A

Along with sue sharing the information- and I would like to make that motion, can I ask.

J

We lift, can I ask for a couple clarification things before you do my math mandate.

L

Monday morning, um wait a minute for discussion. Is that it? No I'm okay,.

A

I'm getting the devil eyes over here. Okay, I'm gonna amend that.

A

When you I haven't, finished it: okay, okay, fine, go finish it! Okay finish! You have my permission.

A

Are you sure about that? Okay, I want to lift the mask mandate yesterday now I want to uh lift.

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The mask mandate in all our government facilities for those working and entering the facilities.

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Strongly recommending, as commissioner wants shared and we and we publicize that and put it out there.

A

Publicly effective monday morning, beginning workday or we could go cob, it doesn't matter, but.

A

Go ahead monday morning, effective monday morning, okay, so two things you mentioned, the.

J

Libraries, okay, hold on a second. You want to make an amendment well I'll! Second, it that's the motion.

A

Okay, well I'll; second, it for discussion; okay, keeping me in the right order here. So therefore,.

A

I have a motion. I have a second okay. This is now open for discussion. Okay, now, thank you all right.

E

I do feel like an attorney, think you're getting smarter just sitting there. Please don't go there.

E

Is burke on because, if that's the case we're all in big trouble windham? Thank you so.

J

The much so just two points of clarification. Generally, we don't make rules for the library.

J

I can strong, you know strongly recommend I can talk to andrea and suggest that.

J

The board feels they should still remain masked because people stay there longer.

J

Is that okay, yes, okay and secondly, we've had um rule for a while that, when there are two people.

J

Because they can't physically distance when they're more than one person in a vehicle that.

J

They have to remain masked. um Do you want to leave that in place, or do you want to eliminate that.

E

As you as you cough, that's a great way to it's a great great way to present that I, I think honestly.

A

uh I I would like to lift it. I I I mean I want common sense to start prevailing and honestly.

A

Those being honest, saying: here's the situation, I'm getting a vehicle with you.

A

I am vaccinated, I am not vaccinated um and here's the concern, but I'm I don't want to.

A

Nickel and dime our workforce uh in these issues- if I may, I have to agree with that approach.

B

And I also like to encourage people if you are feeling symptoms, you know be aware of that, and.

B

Refrain from coming into work or getting in a vehicle, because at this point in time none.

B

Of us know, I had a head cold over a month ago and nowadays, everyone's so full anxiety. You get.

B

The sniffles you're worried you have coved, but if you do have any symptoms, be very acutely aware of.

B

Your symptoms, even though it might not be coveted, know that before you get in the vehicle or express.

B

Out of people or wear them, the answer don't come in there's a lot of individual responsibility.

B

Here that's going to be placed on us and I want everyone to be aware of that and I think that's.

B

What commissioner ross dean was alluding to? We all have an individual responsibility here.

B

Any other discussion on this go ahead. Steve can I amend your motion. I second.

A

Okay, well, if, if, if you would add to it to continue to limit the amount of people in our meeting rooms,.

E

Based on the the uh ability to separate yes, because I yeah- I don't want any of this.

E

Stuff to slip through the cracks, I don't want 45 people sitting in the reagan room.

E

At a planning and zoning meeting, just we can't do that, whatever the whatever the limitations.

E

Is in these rooms, it's got to be enforced, that's particularly difficult one. I understand that, but.

E

Then they wait in the hall until they until their part of the hearing is, is there but not.

E

To sit in there and linger and if that's the case, then everybody's masked, because what's.

E

The difference between that in the library, what exactly is the parameters that are the.

B

Limitations, six foot six feet: six feet six feet: all the all the rooms are posted right. So, okay,.

A

Yeah and the fact is, you know, I agree with you and and the reality is that there are only a couple of.

A

Times and opportunities where you're going to get those crowds yeah yeah. So I agree, but so yes, but.

E

When we did this before, there was like 25 people sitting in a planning and zoning meeting and 20 of.

E

Them didn't have to be there until you know it was. It was a spectator sport right. They didn't have.

E

To be there until their particular case right, so if it's not exceeding the amount of people.

E

Based on the six feet, fine yeah, but if it is somebody's, got to wait in the hall.

J

We can also try to analyze what is on the agenda and possibly spread it out. That's fine, too,.

E

But you know either another day or another, the next time next meeting to try to instead of having.

J

You know back-to-back meetings that we think might have. You can't always tell.

J

But if you can, if you have a sense that this meeting is going to have 100 people, and this.

J

Meeting is going to have five right. Well, you know, maybe you do it. I want to make sure we're sticking.

A

To uh robert's rule or richard rule or somebody's rules, and so I agree with that amendment.

A

And I will uh include that into the motion. Okay, so just bear with me before I open for discussion.

A

um We have a caller also on um chris. Is that caller a median? Is it a topic? Is it this topic.

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They want to discuss, let's find out caller you're unmuted. Can you please tell us your name and what.

K

Topic you're here to call on uh james miller and yes, it's on the topic of mass mandate.

K

Okay, you'll have three minutes. Thank you thanks. um I appreciate all the comments that and I know.

M

This board has heard from me many times in this topic. Again, I I apologize say your name and where.

A

You're from uh one more time, yep james miller in manchester, okay, thank you go ahead. James yep.

M

So um you know, like I said: I've spoke to the commissioners. Many times come to many meetings.

M

And I just want to call in and first thank you for um you know. I know the motion is to lift the mass.

M

Mandate in the county buildings- and I thank you that um one topic I wanted to kind of bring up and.

M

And I would I'd be curious um if the the health department is willing to speak on it. You know.

M

What's going on now, and you hear many of the experts, including dianna nguyen and.

M

Dr gottlieb and other folks who are very pro-mats, are talking about one-way, masking and providing.

M

The government has provided and continued providing the kn-95 and n95s for folks. You.

M

Know one of the things that is coming up now is allowing people to make that individual choice by.

M

Providing them a mass that will actually protect themselves. um So the reason why I'm calling today.

M

Because I I figured you guys were going down this path and um I just want to make sure that you know.

M

There's options out there that will allow people to safely protect themselves by allowing for.

M

That individual choice for those who you know especially like us who are fully vaccinated, have.

M

Done the right thing are ready to move on um the governor spoke last night and said time to learn.

M

To live with virus and learn to move on, so um you know that was kind of what I was going today and.

M

um Also wanted to to bring up again- and I know brought it up in the past. I would absolutely love.

M

If this, commissioner, this board, would support the local board of education in um working with.

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The state to allow that same choice to be made for our students in schools. I know you guys incentive.

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Pass: it's not your jurisdiction, it's not your decision, but I think it means a whole lot for.

M

The county to be united in this front. So, while we're talking about this lifting of mass mandates.

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um It would be wonderful if this this board would would openly support the board of.

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Education working with the state to allow carroll county to make that decision for their students.

M

And uh allow our kids to also have the same benefit of having that option to whether to.

M

To wear a mess or not, and the same thing goes one way masking provide this can 95 allow people.

M

To protect themselves, while others have the freedom to make that choice, um that's all I.

M

Had today, so, thank you, okay! Thank you. um What I'd like to do is stick to this decision um and.

A

The motion and now seconded to move forward on that. If we want to then have a discussion on.

A

You know the schools and other things, and he mentioned great got lib and whoever else.

A

We can do that in open admin, um but I don't think it's as necessary to talk about that now. What I.

J

Want one more question before you vote, I just need to clarify yes, they're all little pieces and parts.

J

To the organization, so when we get it right, senior centers currently seniors are required.

J

To mask in the senior centers, because they're government buildings, previously, we required them.

J

To mask when they couldn't be socially distanced, that was the same rule we had for the vehicles.

J

So you eliminated the one for the vehicles for staff, so I don't know what you want to.

J

Do with the senior centers, I believe, as long as they can socially distance.

A

You know yeah the the the challenge comes in here and I know in in the tawny town senior center with.

E

The card playing and stuff- that's the yeah, so I think it's common sense here to say that if.

E

The same that we're talking about with limiting folks in this room or whatever room here, if you're.

E

In a setting where you're not six feet apart, which you alluded to ed, then you got to have a mask on.

E

But to come in the door to get a meal or right or to whatever it is that they do.

E

You know, but if you're in being bingo sitting side by side or whatever playing cards at a card table.

E

Should continue to be masked until such time that we decide that they can, and uh you know.

A

The the card playing is the I have to it's the big one it is, I mean you know what I know I I.

A

I know and I hear it, um but I agree unless you're able to socially distance right, then you should.

A

Be and you will be in mask, if I may, I I think you made a really good point until we see further data.

B

Could we have this this? uh This restriction be for 30 days to be reviewed in 30 days.

B

In light of the numbers dropping the way they are, would we do it say for 30 days, so it forces.

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Us to come back and look at these numbers again now, with all respect, I don't want to.

E

Put a time period on it, uh I think we should continue to hear from the health department.

E

And we'll make that decision accordingly, exactly because honestly, look at it on the other side of.

E

The coin: if the numbers are down in two weeks and we've put it for 30 days, then we need to go back.

E

And rescind that so, let's just do it as we see fit. I absolutely agree and yeah and like I shared.

A

We all want to get out of this. You know and knocking on wood we're going to so if it's a.

A

One week or two weeks, that's great sounds good. No, so, okay is there any further discussion. Ms windham.

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No, I'm are you, I think I have all my questions answered, thank you and you did say as of monday,.

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February the 7th correct yes, monday february: the 7th okay, beginning business, you good start: okay,.

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I have a motion. I have a second all discussion I think has been had all in favor aye aye against.

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Okay, what are you doing? I said all right: okay, okay, 4-0! Thank you! Miss doyle,.

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Very much that included the amendment as well: right, yeah yeah, oh yeah, that was amended yep, okay,.

A

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you and again. The key also is to me we talk about mandates.

A

We never put mandates in place in the public and somehow again, your favorite topic about.

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Social media. It gets spun out of control that we are. You know the most liberal republican county.

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In the world because we have- and we don't have mandates well so to to you know, you guys hear.

E

Me talk about social media all the time, uh the late great betty white, I think, put it really well.

E

In case you didn't hear what she said uh a month or two ago before she died. She.

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Said I never knew what facebook was and when I did, what a waste of time she died.

D

And I'd like to address that special, I watch some of it. I take the rest of that. Okay, I.

A

Apologize, we have a hot mic somewhere got a hot mic, ed I'd like to go ahead and do it now.

E

With um to talk about the board of ed okay, there are parameters that have been set by ms.

E

By the by maryland, state education that allows for jurisdictions to be able to do uh to to be.

E

Able to make a decision on their mass based on the parameters, leave it at that. We are not here to get.

E

Into that debate- and I will not get into that debate because that's what the state has set up.

E

And I don't want to, I think, from what I've seen of those parameters they've allowed the.

E

Opportunity when the numbers say that they can to be able to make that decision and I'm not.

E

In favor of doing anything based on what they have in place, okay, thank you so collectively.

A

Your recommendation is collectively, we do not engage in making recommendations or decisions.

A

That is the responsibility authority of the board of education. If there weren't parameters in place.

E

Then we could perhaps talk about it, but there are clear parameters that have been set by the state.

E

Yep leave it at that. Okay, and we do have a liaison on the board of education that.

A

Does share and have the opportunity to share what the decisions being made.

A

By the board of county commissioners, so okay, any further discussion on that. Let's move on.

A

Good discussion, good actions: let's talk about burke burke, what's burke.

A

Burke, there's no burke, we have a live burn. No, we don't have a perk. We have a workforce development.

A

That's right, but we don't have a perk, go ahead, jack. What do you want to talk about.

N

Commissioners, it's heather. I think I'm going to start this morning, but my camera so heather.

A

Yeah, well, I'm not sure what work is, but I thought you were in charge of the workforce. Development.

N

I am, I am so just a little background. I want to go back. Over um and last july we were established as.

N

An independent workforce area of the state and now we're governed under a new board of directors, so.

N

As the local workforce development agency, we're seeking to re-establish ourselves with a new.

N

Brand as carol workforce development, formerly the business employment resource center burke.

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With the launch of a new logo and marketing campaign,.

D

Okay, our logo is up and we have chosen the tagline leveraging success. We think it speaks to.

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The importance of partnership in workforce development, we have several core partners.

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That we work with, but also community partners, are key in making this all work. Cohesively carroll.

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County has a strong reputation of partnership in all that we do so. This just continues that.

A

Okay uh heather: is there a uh a purpose to the design with the green triangle.

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And the uh the blue, it's a fulcrum, it's a fulcrum for leveraging success.

D

And we think that it also looks like a pathway, a career pathway, perhaps.

N

This is why I'm not in design graphic design. We liked the the green interspersed in the color of.

N

The logo we feel like it speaks to growth. It speaks to green industry money. Perhaps.

A

Okay sounds good, so uh jack. Is there something you want to add to this? Well, uh no, it's it! We've.

O

Been talking about this for years, and it it distinguishes us from we're, not an unemployment.

O

Office, we are a workforce, development and I'll go into some of the charts, so I'm excited about.

O

It you know, and heather's done, a tremendous job. You know, along with denise beaver on this.

A

Yeah, no, I absolutely agree uh heather you have and I like.

A

My understanding is that the board uh the workforce has they've had at least one meeting.

N

Yes, our next meeting is coming up um february. 16Th.

N

And so we're moving right along. We have an excellent representation on our board.

N

We do have a lot of work to do, establishing this new board, so yep, it's challenging as long as you.

N

Leverage um the state department of labor and uh their workforce development. You know team because.

A

You know I'm on that board and uh absolutely the giacomo um and his folks.

A

You know uh are there for you, so let's make sure we leverage them but you're doing fantastic.

D

As well as that board, so I appreciate all the work um good and mike will be making a presentation.

N

To one of the future board meetings as well: okay, that's awesome. Miss powell, you have an.

B

Extremely satisfying job and you have a tremendous impact upon people's lives in the future. It would.

B

Be possible to bring any people before us could testify and give examples about the.

B

Impact of your service to show people the services provide and how meaningful it impacts their life.

N

I would love to do that if they are willing to. Yes, we do we're putting together as part of our.

N

Outreach program- some of this is success stories that we've had recently so yes,.

N

I very much appreciate this because I know that both citizen services and your department.

B

Probably has the most meaningful direct impact upon our citizens lives, uplifting them to a.

B

Higher standard of living- and I look forward to it, thank you one thing I would like to mention, while.

N

I have the mic is um we are continuing our rapid welding program? We have our third cohort starting.

N

February 14th and then we've also we're going to bring we've contracted with.

N

Carroll community college we'll be doing um a cdl training right here in the county.

N

Typically, training occurs either in hagerstown or baltimore county so to have it in our county.

N

I think will make a difference for people to be able to attend that training. That is wonderful.

B

We all know that the cdl is very important right now, so that's addressing our community's needs.

C

Yeah, you don't have to drive to get the cdl, I'm just kidding.

E

Hey heather, I had brought this up a week or so ago. uh If you could make sure, maybe you already have.

E

uh The the fire departments uh are are required as well to to get their drivers.

E

That course now it used to be that they didn't have to do that, but now they do.

E

If you could reach out to cc visa, if, unless you already have to develop that ability to have our.

E

Folks, here in the county that want that course to provide that to them as well. That would be great.

N

I will definitely follow up on that. Thank you. Okay, with that I'll make the motion the board of county.

C

Commissioners accepts the recommend recommended rebranding, including the logo and tag line of the.

C

Carroll workforce development center as presented second, I got a motion in a second and never to be.

A

Called burke again uh any other discussion all in favor aye, aye. Okay, thank you! So much heather.

A

Now, let's talk about the aarp age friendly community initiative.

A

Jack, you can go away, uh we wanted. We wanted to talk to you about um our job, fair.

O

um That we had um give you some, I think you have a slide. Chris was gonna, put a slide up.

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For you, okay, if you have a minute um noob time's up um chris, do you have a slide? You want to share.

O

Can you see it, we can I'm gonna, get it better in a second.

O

It's a blur to me, but I I have a printed color as well, so let's just go over it with you here we go.

O

Okay, um yeah you're, talking about commissioners um lives when you, when you talk about you know our.

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Marketing program has been manufacturers and we we have. We, we have about four prospects right now,.

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Manufacturers that want to come here- and the number one reason is- is our labor force a very.

O

Well, qualified high productivity and low turnover and we change lives people you know out commuted.

O

From the community- and they um they now can work here they can go to soccer games and.

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Go to the program, so economic development and one of the big engines of the engine.

O

Is of course you know our employment center. We had a job fair on the 25th, a virtual job, fair.

O

We had 30 employers that were on the line with us. We had about 145 jobs that were.

O

That were outstanding. We had 60 people attend the job fair, including 10 veterans, commissioner, and we.

O

Had 20 new potential customers, we never saw before 50 resumes were submitted scott's following up on.

O

The um on how many people were placed on that, but we can tell you on the welding program we have.

O

Been placing the people, commissioner, that went through the welding program, we have been placing.

O

Them on that, we're going to have another job fair on the 24th, from 10 to 11, 30. and hr is going to.

O

Be on their our hr department, because I I looked and we had about 30 30 job openings, so we're gonna.

O

We're excited about you know this, this venue, how we do it on february 24th and on a sidebar too.

O

Our unemployment numbers came out uh yesterday for december and we're still number one um in the.

O

Whole state of maryland, however, this is the first time I've been tracking it that we're under 3 000.

O

People that are unemployed in carroll, county um 2751 um people and a lot of us, because they.

O

Go to the center and we do these virtual job fairs, so we've been really aggressive.

O

With this, and of course you know every company you see signs, but um you know heather has done.

O

A tremendous job, her own denise and her staff to get people registered and and have you know, get.

O

Them out there so we're we're really excited about the work that she's doing plus we we can control.

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It now you know that's all I have didn't want to take. I wanted to take a minute and tell you.

O

That I think our success is heather's successes on this absolutely appreciate it um good stuff.

O

Yeah and I'll sign off now. Okay, thank you. I think gina could take you or at least celine. So I see.

A

Celine is gina coming on and I saw um jim mccarron was on. I don't know if he's going to pop on or not.

A

But we want to talk about the aarp age-friendly community initiative and there's carol popping in.

A

Okay, good morning, commissioners, I'm joined this morning uh by gina valentine.

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Our bureau chief of aging disabilities and jim mccarron who's, the chair of our carroll county.

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Commission on aging disabilities and then also carol wheatley, who is our co-chair.

P

Of the commission on aging and disabilities, we are here this morning to request approval to submit a.

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Letter of commitment and an application to pursue implementation of aarp's age-friendly initiative.

P

Through the support of you, the board of county commissioners, carroll county remains committed.

P

To providing a safe community where people of all ages and abilities are able to thrive.

P

And also can achieve optimal living as the number of carroll countians.

P

Continues to increase placing our older adults at the forefront of our planning and even our focus.

P

Could not be timelier before I turn it over to gina to talk a little bit more about the specifics.

P

Of the age friendly initiative, I did want to talk about some highlights of the work over the.

P

Years that has been done to move us to this place through the collaborative work with the bureau of.

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Aging, disabilities and their advisory board. The commission on aging disabilities over eight plus.

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Years has been devoted to really exploring information on aging and place initiatives.

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As well as age friendly community practices that could be implemented here in carroll, county.

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Through the work of the commission on aging and disabilities, the designation.

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Of an aging in place subcommittee was employed later to be named carol together.

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The initial role of the focus and focus of this committee was to enhance lives of older adults.

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And help them remain in their homes as long as possible. An aging place community needs.

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Assessment was later created in partnership with the commission, the bureau of aging and mcdaniel.

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College's center for the study on aging, this was done to identify priority areas and aging in place.

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That key stakeholders and community members had provided input for the results of that survey.

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Just confirmed what we already knew from similar national trends in aging, and that is that people.

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Want to remain in their homes for as long as possible, and they want to do this through a.

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Plethora of um services that exist within the community and and resources, including health.

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Care and wellness opportunities, outdoor spaces, meaningful civic engagement, social connections and.

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The transportation to make it all happen as carol together further developed their mission, a broader.

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Age-Friendly community focus began to unfold in march of 2020, as the coded pandemic erupted.

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Carroll county's, the carroll together subcommittee, was preparing to make a formal recommendation to.

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You the board of county commissioners, to engage in this ar ph friendly community initiative.

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But obviously that had to be placed on hold, so we are back before you now ready to move this forward.

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So as a result of our ongoing work and continued commitment to older adults in carroll, county.

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We truly believe that partnering with the aarp network to pursue this age friendly.

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Community designation is our nation, our next natural step, so gina will now go through.

P

And provide us with the detail on how this age friendly initiative will work in carroll, county.

G

Thank you celine um chris. Could you move to the next slide for me, please.

G

Thank you um just to provide with some background. First, um of course, um the goal uh is to.

G

Make communities more supportive of older adults and people of all age ages? There are.

G

Multiple places throughout the state of maryland that are currently participating, which is.

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Which are baltimore howard and montgomery counties and college park as well. The initiative.

G

Is a catalyst for educating and encouraging and recognizing the improvements that make cities.

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Towns and counties more supportive of older adults and again people of all ages um next slide. Please.

G

According to census data, the 60-plus population in carroll county was 46 424 in 2020.

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And it's expected to increase to 55 469 by 2025, committing to the aarp age friendly.

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Community initiative initiative excuse me will ensure that carroll county is.

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Planning for the future of aging, and it will also strengthen our mission of assisting.

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People with remaining in the community for as long as possible this slide the current.

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Slide, that is up, provides information about the eight domains of livability, and this slide is.

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Actually, directly from aarp um communities in the age-friendly network are encouraged to work.

G

Within a framework, um that's referred to the eight domains of livability. um The theory behind this is.

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That what happens in the age of mains has a direct impact on the quality of life for older adults.

G

And again, people of all ages, so the eight domains are outdoor spaces and buildings, transportation.

G

Housing, social participation, respect and social inclusion, civic participation and.

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Employment communication and information and finally, community support and health services.

G

I'm going to explain more in the next slide the steps of moving forward with the initiative.

G

um However, we plan to focus on three to four of the eight domains of livability.

G

So there are multiple steps um for the age friendly community um initiative. Excuse me.

G

um So that the first step is entering the network- and that is where um a letter of.

G

Support is provided, of course, by you, the board of carroll county commissioners in support.

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Of us moving forward, we will then complete and submit an application to join the network.

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And we will gather our core team, which we actually already have our core team through.

G

Our commission on aging and disabilities. um In addition, we plan to um in order to move forward.

G

With this first step is to hire um a consultant, um and we have funding to do so and which has.

G

Been approved by maryland department of aging um again to be able to move the initiative forward.

G

um The second step is years, one through two and we'll focus on planning. We will conduct a.

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Community needs assessments, um conduct town hall meetings, obtain input from community.

G

And key key stakeholders identify the domains that will be the driving force of this initiative.

G

And create an action plan that will outline the activities, indicator and indicators that will be.

G

Used to measure the implementation and set goals on step, three, which is years three to five, um will.

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Be implementation and evaluation and we will implement the action plan and again continue.

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To evaluate it, step four is at five plus years, um which is to continue continuous.

G

Cycle of improvements um throughout this entire process, um we will have them receive.

G

Direct support um from aarp and guidance from them as well um so before I move on to the final.

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Slide I'd like to invite um jim mccarron and carol wheatley um to say a few words.

B

I say once a mayor always a mayor. Well, that's true! This! This effort um is pretty well universally.

Q

uh Accepted by our commission now everybody seems to be on board with this.

Q

We've heard several presentations we've gone to several presentations. We we went to the kickoff.

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Presentation down in howard county a couple years ago and was, I was very impressed with the.

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With the interest that that was was exhibited by the general population, this this.

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First step, this writing this letter, saying that we want to pursue this.

Q

uh Starts a procedure that you can say to stretch over a number of years and it it's.

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Very well thought out by aurp, and they they promise a lot of guidance uh in their.

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In our efforts to to develop this for particularly for carroll county, uh you know the counties that.

Q

Are participating or are urban counties, we've got college park and uh individual municipalities are.

Q

Welcome to to pursue this endeavor on their own, but it makes sense for us because of our.

Q

Diversity in in carroll county to uh to try to develop this as a county, rather than have the.

Q

Municipalities go out individually and try to you know, reinvent the wheel. I think that we.

Q

All can work together to this. I think, with a partnership with the municipalities that.

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Do do much in helping us establish uh this uh age uh network in carroll and it's you know it.

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Once this is established, it's all about engagement, it's all about engagement of the of the senior.

Q

Community with the rest of the community- and um I think we do a lot to do that- that.

Q

Already, with with our fine network of senior centers and support that we get from from the.

Q

But um I I think that this is this is something that will really focus our direction and give.

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Us some some, um um I I guess uh well, it will give us give us it'll focus our direction. Give us some.

Q

Some deadlines to meet in order to make this thing happen, rather than just talk about it.

L

Yeah, this is carol wheatley. I'd like to add to that that um you know when we.

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Were participating in the carol together sub group, we heard, as you've already been stated,.

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um We heard from a number of the local counties as to what their programs have been and what worked.

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For them and and what didn't, what challenges they faced, the other thing I should say too, is that.

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Aarp has a tremendous number of resources, they publish a number of books and toolkits and we.

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Have the option to reach out to other communities all around the united states to you know to get.

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Ideas from them to find out what worked and that way be able to uh be able to use that whenever.

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We're developing our um our initiative here, so I really think that it has the potential.

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To um to engage the community and to be able to in in very direct and also subtle, ways to be able to.

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Make our community much more age friendly and more receptive to community community participation.

G

All right, thank you so much jim. Thank you. So much carol.

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um And then, if we could just move on to the last slide, the final slide, um the bureau of aging.

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Disabilities will celebrate 50 years of service to the carroll county community on april 27th of 2022.

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And at this event, we plan to announce and celebrate the launch of the aarp age friendly.

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Community initiative, our partners, the commission on aging and disabilities and the carroll county.

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Community, you know they're so supportive of our agency, the services and programs that we offer.

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And we believe, with their continued support, that we will be successful in advancing.

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The carroll county community forward and planning for the future of aging.

A

Gina, thank you so much and jim carroll celine for sharing this with us.

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A lot happening for all the right reasons and the numbers are moving up. As we see.

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In the senior population so getting in front of it and being proactive like you.

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Are especially with the aging disabilities team committee council, whatever we call it.

A

uh I just appreciate the forward thinking uh that you provide, so if I may, I want to reiterate.

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The compliments of commissioner ross dean to you. I remember when I first came on board former.

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Director k and now director steckel made me very much aware of this age bomb. I caught that's coming.

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At us and just trying to break down the numbers, what we're looking at now, you know we showed a.

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Percentage of twenty two and a half percent of plus sixty eight statewide, but right now.

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In carroll county we're at twenty seven percent projecting within three years, thirty, two percent.

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These numbers are exploding faster than I was told three years ago because I didn't think we'd reach.

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That 32 percent until 2030, so this is exacerbating the situation even more and there's a potential.

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With kovid that birth rates are dropping and that will make things grow even more so I I like.

B

As commissioner rossine said, the forward thinking we've seen parks and rec do something similar.

B

Surveying the people to see what their elder community needs for health and our parks and recs.

B

So I think this is a prime opportunity and I applaud you all especially chairman mayor mccarran,.

B

And vice chairman wheatley for being on this board and making this happen, we appreciate your time.

A

Okay, so what you're looking for is a letter so I'll make the motion that the board of.

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Commissioners approved the submission of a letter of commitment and submission of.

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The application to pursue the implementation of aarp's age friendly community initiative, second.

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I have a motion second anything to discuss seen here: none all in favor, aye, okay,.

A

Thank you, ladies and thank you jim for all that you're doing. Let's move on. Thank you, commissioners.

A

Much more exciting topic, not uh mr zaleski, want you come on in and talk to us about the budget.

A

For second quarter of fy22.

R

I think I'm kind of offended don't be offended, but I could barely hear you.

R

uh That's because you might be looking at me and saying why aren't I in my uniform.

R

I'm not feeling well and I'm doing this from home, and my voice is part of that. So.

R

I'll try to be as strong voiced as I can so ted you don't wear tie at home.

C

R

Yeah, I do take it off. Sometimes.

R

Okay, so on the revenue side,.

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uh Right now keep in mind, we still have a lot of the year to go.

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But on property tax we think we'll come in about a half a million dollars more than we budgeted.

R

Income tax is a big story right now. We're projecting 5.2 million above budget.

R

That's if all the other distributions come in, where we have them planned, there's still a lot.

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Of uncertainty here, but becoming clear, we we are, we have seen an increase in our base. Our next big.

R

Distribution is at the end of february, as always, we'll be interested to see what happens there. It's.

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Not time for us to talk about our six-year revenue projections, yet um we have been working on that.

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And the the last assessment that came in higher than expected and income tax coming in higher than.

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It's continuing becoming higher than expected uh will lead us to increase our revenue projections.

R

It's too early to say exactly what that picture looks like, because um the total picture, because.

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We're still working on the expenditure side, but it will be better looking than.

R

What you've been seeing in recent years.

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Recreation we're looking at six million in excessive budget. You know the story here.

R

Continues to be the the housing market and I think we need to be very careful how we think about this.

R

You know it's, I'm not gonna tell you that I can predict when the housing market's going to change.

R

Right, but I think we can stay with confidence. It can't continue to go on as it is, and uh there's.

R

Some other small changes, but that what I just said is is the bulk of the story.

R

But um as things stand, we're looking for um year-end come in about 13 million dollars.

R

Above what we budgeted? Look at the expenditure side.

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Public works looking about 1.2 million dollars unspent. Almost all of that is about salary savings.

R

So this is good on the expenditure side, but the problem is: we have open positions that aren't.

R

Out doing the work when we've been done.

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uh Couple other relatively small.

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Changes in general government, which covers a lot of territory, of course,.

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We're looking at about three million a minute and a half of that or half and half because of the.

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Timeline on ems, we have money, budgeted that we're not yet spending the rest of. It is split up among.

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A dozen different things reserved for contingency has 4.2 million dollars remaining.

R

We have spent about 600 000 this year. That service is about three quarters of a million. um That's.

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Primarily, due to lower than planned bond sales, we have to project into the future. How much we think.

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We will sell in bonds when the time comes, and in this case we didn't need as much as we had planned.

R

So again, as things stand, expenditures are about what to be about 10 million lower than.

R

So a good picture for where, where we are right now.

R

But again long way to go, things can change.

R

Any questions about or no uh relatively good news uh I'll, be it short term, but uh definitely.

A

And, most importantly, I want to make sure you're you're feeling better so uh appreciate you taking.

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The time and sharing this with us any uh any discussion on this director zaleski thanks.

B

For report, you know you're not the most bubbly extroverted person, but we all very much care about.

B

Your health and well-being and wish you a speedy recovery so go rest. We've held you up too long.

B

Thank you, okay! Well we're not done yet, though oh yeah, I was gonna, say, there's, there's, there's more.

D

But wait there's more any uh there's anything else on what's been shared so far,.

A

No, I think that's like, as you say, it's a it's. It's positive right now. It's good news and.

D

That's something we need, as we uh anticipate the beginning of what I always call the annual circus.

E

Because it it all starts soon so.

A

Yeah, okay, so let's use the uh term guarded optimism at this point. Okay, go ahead, ted.

A

Okay, we have two res two budget resolutions. You need to approve the first one resolution, 0-22.10.

R

This is an administrative thing. We budget money for health and fringe benefits at the beginning.

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Of the year in the hr budget, because we don't know how to allocate it yet uh that allocation.

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Has been done so what we're doing here is moving the approximately 11.7 million dollars.

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From the human resources budget to all the individual budgets.

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This is not about additional spending or any change in anything, we're doing just getting.

R

The expenditures slotted in right places- and I I just want to mention that this is um our.

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Other post-employment benefits it's opeb, it's not all of our medical, um so you will be seeing.

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Medical come um at the end of the end of the fiscal year for a year-end adjustment thanks.

A

Ed is this a standard um that we've been doing for years, that we put it into the hr coffers and then.

A

We figure out okay, what is the number at this point, or is it just too difficult to do early on.

R

Exactly maybe we we could get it approximately right right, but what.

R

We would end up having to doing would be to adjust 100 different budgets right. Okay,.

A

Okay, so uh let's do these one at a time I'll move the board.

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Of county commissioners approved the operating budget resolution.

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Is it is that a zero or an o, oscar okay, oscar tech, 22.10 to transfer.

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11 million 667 208 dollars, 26 cents of funding from hr benefits zero. Two five one to individual.

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Budgets for opeb a second, I got a motion. I got a second. Is there any discussion on this.

A

All in favor right, okay, let's go to the second one; okay, this is a capital budget resolution, sd.

R

2211. uh you've discussed the purchase of the myanmar building a number of times recently.

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The money that we used to purchase that was in a capital project called land bank.

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We've now established a project for this building and the buying of it and the work that we will do.

R

We just need to move uh two million dollars from the land bank project.

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Into this project that is specifically tied to the building.

A

Is land bank I'm lost on that a little bit.

R

It's a place where we keep some money appropriated. So um if an opportunity to buy property.

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Comes up during the year that had not been planned for that. You have a place to go to.

A

Sounds like a rainy day, capital budget.

E

We've had that for quite some time. It allows us to allows us to.

E

We we've dipped into it a couple times for the green for the.

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Our proposed government site here right, so you know it's just acknowledgment that.

R

There are things we might want to act on that, come up in an inconvenient timing for us that.

R

Didn't allow discussion during the budget process and, of course, when this happens, it's usually not.

R

Fifty dollars and we're talking about hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars.

R

So this gives you the flexibility to be able to to act on it when the opportunity arises.

A

Well, what does um what does it leave us in that land bank, uh nine, zero, zero, two.

A

Is it significant, uh do you know deb, I think we have approximately five million dollars. Okay,.

D

C

Here I'll make the motion board. Commissioners approve capital budget resolution, c-22.11.

C

To establish a new capital project for the panmar building and transfer two million dollars in funds.

C

From the land bank, nine zero zero two depend more building number.

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To be determined second, okay, I have a motion of a second.

A

Any discussion on this all in favor, aye, okay, thank you! So much uh ted and deb.

A

A

Okay, let's move on to proposal renewal of contractual position of the emergency management.

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Readiness technician and we got scott and valerie uh good morning- go ahead. Scott.

T

Thank you, commissioners. um First, I apologize for asking, but I had some trouble signing in.

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To make sure that you can see and hear me fine.

E

Yes, you're good yeah. Yes, I don't know if that's a good thing, but I guess we see.

D

That's debatable: okay, go ahead, scott, okay! I walk right into that. Thank you very much.

T

um As the brief shares commissioners, this is we're here to ask today uh for a proposed renewal of the.

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Position that you created agreed to in may of 2021 titled emergency management, readiness, technician.

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When the initial approval was provided or when you granted it, there was uh included the the option.

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To renew, but because there is a proposed change to the terms of the uh the contractual position.

T

For full transparency, we're here today to share that with you. That change is simply instead of the.

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Six months of initially we're asking that we renew it for 12 months, same finances, same everything,.

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Simply to do it for one year and um it can clearly speak to the benefits that have been.

T

Realized from this position, if you have those questions.

A

Well, I was the difference between six months and 12 months. Is there a difference also in.

A

Benefits provided to the individual or no, it's an unbenefited position. Commissioners, it's a.

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It's a contractual position with limited hours.

T

It really that is that the position has been so beneficial, as ms hawkins can attest to.

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That both the incumbent is receptive to a longer commitment, and this also gives.

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uh Valerie the opportunity to to rely on having those resources for a greater period of time.

T

The single most important thing is it's 100, funded by uh grants, not to say it's a grant.

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Contingent position, but that we have identified grant funds that will pay for it. So there is no.

T

Cost to the county to do this, there's the request. This proposes to renew it, but it is over 12 months.

T

Compared to the initial six months that you approved back in may 41. all right, that is the.

A

Is it a uh position, that's uh vacant that we're trying to fill? No, there is an incumbent there.

T

Is an incumbent commissioner and uh an individual has indicated very good that more than willing to.

T

uh Renew in for the proposed 12 months and that's why we're asking you for that: yep, okay,.

C

I'll make the motion board and commissioners approved the renewal of the emergency management.

C

Readiness technician contractual position as presented. I got motioned uh seconding.

A

Discussion on this all in favor all right: okay, you're one for one now, let's talk about protocol.

A

System maintenance for calendar year, 2022 emergency, medical fire and police dispatch.

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uh Scott or jack, who wants to take a lead on this one I'll gladly start commissioners and.

T

If you have the specific questions, jack's more than uh prepared to answer those here to ask for.

T

Permission to pay the thirty six thousand dollar and I'm looking at my previously two hundred.

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Dollar amount in there, the thirty six thousand dollars for the protocol support agreement for.

T

And my term calendar year 2022, I use that term because it runs literally from early january.

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To early january, so that's why I referenced it as the calendar calendar year agreement.

T

um It is the protocols used in the dispatch center for the pre-arrival uh and the vetting of calls.

T

Emergency medical fire, police dispatch: uh this is an annual renewal and uh mr brown, I'm sure.

T

Can share with you the benefits of the reasons why uh we have these protocols.

A

Okay uh jack did you want to add anything to it or.

A

We could sure, as director campbell indicated, these are the protocols that the 911 specialists.

U

Use on a daily basis to process the 9-1-1 call, so this is where we get our pre-arrival instructions.

U

And those types of activities during the processing of 9-1-1 calls okay and the.

U

Support maintenance agreements provides the annual updates and those types of things to the software.

U

Okay and commissioner, if I may something that is in the brief, it should be noted. um This is.

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An expense that is eligible for and we fully expect to be reimbursed by the maryland 911 board.

T

um It's one of the new expenses, uh one of the additional expenses or expanded eligible expenses.

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That the numbers board can use the trust fund for reimbursement and mr brown uh regularly submits.

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For reimbursements for these types of expenses, that would be the intent, and we fully expect the.

T

County to be reimbursed in the in this full amount, it's good news, always good news yep. I love using.

A

Other people's money, there's there's there are good things that come out of the general assembly.

E

Imagine that I moved the commissioners authorized. The director of public safety.

E

To pay the annual fee for the referenced protocol system, maintenance agreement.

E

Second, I got a motion. Second, any discussion.

A

None all in favor aye all right. Okay! Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you, commissioners. Okay, now, let's.

A

Talk about paving repair at the farm museum and uh I got justin. I expect to see eli, uh possibly.

A

No I'm here, can you hear me who's that eli? Okay, yeah? Sorry, my computer.

V

Is running a little slow here, but I'm here it's all good. Did you want to start this.

B

Very quickly, president ross, I have to recuse myself right up front because I'm friends.

B

With the owners of gem contract, and so I have to sit this out, thank you. Go ahead, eli sure.

V

The office of procurement, in cooperation with the bureau of facilities, request your approval.

V

To award a contract for the paving and repair of various areas at the farm museum to gems.

V

Contracting inc and the amount of sixty six thousand six hundred and twenty eight dollars.

V

The bureau facility is listed for, quotes and received three responses listed below.

V

And the amount is within the adopted budget and no additional funds will be needed.

W

Morning, commissioners, facilities will be paving the interior roads and walking paths at the carroll county farm museum.

W

um That highlander facilities project manager took the lead on this project, so I'm going to pass the.

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uh The torch onto him to give you guys complete the scope of work, what we will be performing.

H

Good morning, commissioner, uh the farm you see on interior roads and walking paths.

H

That lead to the exhibits and other attractions have started to degrade.

H

And they're in need of repairs about 75 percent of the past will be overlaid with two inch.

H

New asphalt, the edges will be backfilled with topsoil, seeded and straw. There's a.

H

Culvert area off the main parking lot, that's also made of asphalt that is undermining.

H

Along with the pipe that runs under the foot, bridge, that'll also be replaced.

H

The rear of the administration building and the gift shop has a degraded ground level.

H

Wood deck we're going to propose to take that out and put and replace it with asphalt and.

H

Also, there's a deteriorating concrete on the walk path away from that gift shop. We're going.

H

To replace that with asphalt as well, the work is expected to be completed by the end of april.

H

2022, that sounds great uh as long as it stays on schedule. We have, uh as I shared earlier.

A

The intent of having a very large event may 15th two weeks later, so it's gonna be.

A

Pretty exciting for a beautiful walks and trail, you know that's redone for may 15th event.

A

um Okay, any questions on this one. I do have a question. I was wondering why you're.

C

Replacing the concrete walk with the asphalt.

H

Well, the concrete walk in um that that comes out of that gift shop is an old, concrete wall and it.

H

Butts right up to that deteriorated wooden deck, um I think it'll be a cleaner presentation. Number.

H

One, but also avoid any trip hazards that we have when they exit, because they go through that gift.

H

Shop to actually enter the park right, so the main scope really was to address any trip hazards on.

H

These paths or walkways and there's a couple as you leave that gift shop that we could address.

H

While we're doing the past and make everything nice and nice and smooth and no trip patches, all.

C

Right, I just wondering because my experience concrete holds up much better than asphalt.

C

But because of the trip hazards in this in the smooth transition, that does make sense, then okay.

C

I'll meet you go ahead, I'll make the motion of boarding commissioners awarded contract for the.

C

Painting paving and repair various areas at the farm museum to jem's contract in the amount of.

C

Six thousand six hundred twenty eight dollars and zero cents I'll. Second, any.

A

Further discussion scene here, none all in favor, okay, three, zero one! That's one abstention! Okay,.

A

Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you now, let's talk about the 2023 consolidated transportation plan, priority.

A

Letter, I expect to see ms linda and ms mary popping in, or at least linda, is mary joining us.

X

Yes, she is have some issues. um I know she's having some trouble earlier, but she will be presenting.

X

um So good morning, commissioners, we are here for our annual update on the consolidated.

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Transportation plans priority letter: this is the letter that we send annually to mdot, stating.

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The county's priorities for road projects that are state roads within carroll, county.

X

um There's no action needed today. We want to present to you the presentation that we have.

X

um And let you know some of the changes that have happened over the last year so with that.

X

I'm going to go ahead and share my screen, so if you can give me a presenter ability, control room.

K

You're now presenter, and can you all see the presentation.

X

Yes, okay, all right great! um So amelie are you able to give the presentation.

X

Or do you need me to um to do this for you today? um I can do it if you can move the slides. Yes,.

Y

All right there you go perfect. Thank you. I'm going to turn it over to mary to give you the.

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Purpose of the presentation and review the proposal that we have in front of you today.

X

um So with that mary, thank you um we're here today, as we are this time every year.

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um To talk to you about the state consolidated transportation program, county priority letter.

Y

The ctp priority letter- and this is pretty much the same presentation we make to you.

Y

At this time, every year to get started on this, the purpose of this presentation.

Y

Is to review the process with you to go over the highlights of last year's letter.

Y

To go over any preliminary proposed changes, timing and next steps and if you have any questions, so we.

Y

Will need direction from you on a few things that have happened over the course of when we.

Y

Were here last year, so as a reminder, the list of the top state train transportation priorities in.

Y

The county includes state highways and roads, the streetscape improvements, county trails and transit.

Y

Again as a reminder, this is our process. Planning staff meets with the town staff late in 2021. We.

Y

Met with all the towns in november and december to talk about this, then we begin working with.

Y

The county agencies in january, public works, economic development, recreation and parks. Then.

Y

The stage we're at now is the board will review and approve the letter in over the next two months.

Y

Probably three meetings: this usually takes three meetings for us to make sure that the.

Y

Letter reflects what you want to say, um then the county submits the letter to the state in.

Y

April and in between there, mike fowler takes it to our delegation to get their support on it as well.

Y

And that's followed by the secretary's county tour in the fall where the draft ctp is distributed.

Y

And then the legislature approves the ctp from the prior year in april, so it's a year-long process.

Y

These have been well. The first three have been our highway capacity, enhancement projects.

Y

For a number of years we have not adjusted the order. Number four was added. I believe.

Y

Two years ago again, we have been consistent, purposely consistent in this, um because that.

Y

Is what has always been suggested to us by the state? So the first one is maryland 32 from 26.

Y

That should be um yes, south to the carroll county line, maryland 97 from bachmann's.

Y

Valley, road to maryland, 140 in westminster, maryland 26 from 32 east to the reservoir.

Y

And maryland 140 corridor improvements from the county line to case mill.

Y

I will run through this is reflective of what is in last year's letter, which you should have.

Y

In front of you again, you only have last year's letter. We have not drafted the new letter, but.

Y

We use the prior year's letter as a template and we adjust based on what's happened over.

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The past year and any new priorities you may want to add so again maryland 32 remains the.

Y

County's top priority for new project planning. The project's scope is to ultimately widen the.

Y

Roadway from two to four lanes, including pedestrian facilities and other amenities,.

Y

At appropriate locations within the corridor but as you'll recall several years ago, mdot.

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Embarked on a planning and environmental linkages study which we participated in.

Y

And basically found that that type of improvement was not needed over the next 20 years, so they.

Y

Identified potential improvement concepts to address identified needs at specific locations.

Y

And we have had two breakout projects in for the last couple years. The first one is.

Y

For engineering design of piney ridge, parkway macbeth way to north of springfield avenue and.

Y

The second one is a breakout project for design funding for second street to main street and.

Y

These were identified in the pell study as the improvements that would need attention. First,.

Y

And this is probably very hard to see, but this this is the scope of this improvement.

Y

The second priority is maryland 97 from bachmann valley, road to maryland, 140 in westminster. It's.

Y

To widen the roadway from three to five lanes with the full interchange at meadow branch, road.

Y

And pedestrian facilities um last year, what we've requested- and this is very important to.

Y

Even get into the cip is a breakout project. I'm sorry ctp a breakout project for the corridor.

Y

Feasibility study- we don't currently have that and we are not able to submit for chapter 30 scoring.

Y

Without that feasibility study, so it is crucial that we get that feasibility to get working on.

Y

That feasibility study and also dpw, has pointed out that we need to begin to reserve the necessary.

Y

Right-Of-Way those were both in last year's letter. Again, that's the scope of that work.

Y

The third priority is maryland 26 from 32 east to the liberty reservoir.

Y

In prior years, the project scope was to widen from four to six lanes. Several years ago, sha completed.

Y

The maryland 26 quarter study, which basically found ways to revise the design to a more.

Y

Practical design approach, rather than complete, widening to six lanes improvements will consist.

Y

Of more limited breakout projects that focus primarily on enhancing the safety of the quarter.

Y

And that was brought to you last year and I don't want to say you signed off on it. But.

Y

Basically, you directed us to use that in our development review um comments going forward.

Y

So the first question: I'm sorry to that mary really quickly- is that they also provided an.

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Access management proposal to us 426 as well, so we've been working with state highway and.

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Continuing to improve this corridor and put into practice what's been given in front of us.

Y

So the first breakout project this was in last year's letter- is to convert the eastbound.

Y

Maryland 26 right turn only lane at georgetown boulevard.

Y

Again, there's the scope of that proposed project.

Y

The fourth priority is maryland 140 corridor improvements from the county line to case mel.

Y

Improvements include, ultimately, a four-lane divided roadway, a full.

Y

Interchange at maryland, 91 with an addition with additional auxiliary lane, east of maryland 91.

Y

And access management improvements we identified last year, an initial breakout project for design.

Y

Funding for this intersection of maryland 140 at 91 following the recent completion.

Y

Of a concept study to evaluate a jug handle type design for westbound traffic.

Y

And we are pleased that this project is now funded for full design. Thank goodness.

Y

So again, okay, um one new request has been made and you should have that in your package. Also, it was a.

Y

Letter sent from the town of mount airy on august 20th, requesting your consideration of include.

Y

Inclusion of maryland 27 ridge, road improvements in this year's priority letter, um the request.

Y

It's a one-page letter cited the town's 2016 route, 27 quarter, study recommendations for a number of.

Y

Improvements which include boulevard separation of lanes controlled intersection to allow for.

Y

Pedestrian crossings and other improvements, and they noted that future development of properties.

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In this vicinity are on the cusp of fruition, so this is something we would like direction from.

Y

The board on whether or not you would like this included in the priority letter going forward and.

Y

If so, what um what type of priority you would like us to give it we will have to if you would like to.

Y

We have to refer back to that study, to provide you the scope of work that might be included in.

Y

The project description, but we could bring that to you next time. um I guess I'll continue with.

Y

The presentation and then I'll just say thank you, miss lane. Thank thank you for including the mount.

B

Airy letter, I think a lot of this is contingent upon what happens with the harrison laser property.

B

Well, I think it's important we get out in front of this ahead of time.

B

So if we can include this, I'd really like to have this involved in the studies worth coming.

Y

Okay, I'll just move through the presentation, and then you can.

Y

Provide us direction as a group, I guess at the end of this presentation.

Y

um The two streetscape projects maryland 851 sykesville main street.

Y

Springfield avenue and maryland 31 new windsor main street. You can see in front of you the.

Y

Project scope, so the first streetscape is in sykesville and concept has been completed for.

Y

Many years for this project, but it's not currently funded for design several years ago, the road was.

Y

Upgraded from local to major collectors, so it makes it more competitive for federal money.

Y

The update, as you all know, from dpw, is that the water sewer project is slated to start early.

Y

In the summer of 2022, and in conjunction with the stormwater project being completed by sha,.

Y

Upon completion of stormwater, the water and sewer projects can move forward.

Y

So this was really the first step of moving this streetscape project, which has been in the letter.

Y

For years, this was the first step in moving it forward. Mary does this include the bridge.

Y

I do not believe this includes the bridge. Okay,.

Y

Again, the map showing how the work would be um the second streetscape project and.

Y

It's been in for many years is new windsor main street. This includes improvements to.

Y

Sidewalks enhancement to bicycle and pedestrian accessibility, as well as roadway improvements.

Y

This project would be coordinated with the replacement of water lines within the limits.

Y

Of the streetscape by the town and again that's been holding up this project for many years.

Y

We did receive an update from the town that an application for mde funding of the water.

Y

Main project has been submitted and they're now preparing an application for funding through usda.

Y

The maryland 31 water main project is moving and they have been in contact with sha. There.

Y

Will be a meeting scheduled in the near future to discuss and coordinate the streetscape project.

Y

And the water main project, so this project also appears to be moving forward with sha good.

Y

um Regarding transit, we always include transit in this, but it's always completely reflective.

Y

Of what you have in your atp request for fy 23, which was before you several.

Y

Weeks ago and I believe a public hearing is scheduled in february.

Y

But what I've been told by dpw is that carroll county is requesting.

Y

Operating funding for replacement buses and preventative maintenance funding and outside of.

Y

The atp, also in the early plan, planning stages of preparing for alternate fueled vehicles, along with.

Y

The supporting infrastructure, including the use of solar panels for power, as well as plus coverage,.

Y

We've had for many years these two trail projects. There is no change from reckon parks to either of.

Y

These, the governor, frank brown trail, as you know, has been held up for many years, based on.

Y

Security concerns with the readiness center at springfield hospital property and westminster.

Y

Community trail has been moving forward in recent years. However, we did receive an update from dpw.

Y

They would like us to note that this project needs to be evaluated due to the large level of risk due.

Y

To the path being over a sewer force, main two water main lines and a high pressure gas line.

Y

So additional concerns that we always include in the letter beyond those priorities, those four.

Y

Major capacity enhancing priorities is the fy 22 request included future discussion of maryland 140.

Y

Sullivan road to market street, to widen it from six to eight lanes with a full.

Y

Interchange at maryland, 97 and continuous flow intersections at center street and angler road.

Y

And also to include pedestrian facilities. Dpw has noted that there should be a partnership.

Y

With the county to construct necessary roundabouts in the area of these crossings,.

Y

To allow for continuous flow intersection development, so we could add that to the letter.

Y

Other concerns you noted last year is maryland 31 and medford. Road safety concerns.

Y

A request for a study, maryland 26 johnsville road study of safety concerns and maryland 140.

Y

Mayberry road support for finalizing design and construction: this is another good news.

Y

The project is now funded for construction, and I believe notice to proceed is in march.

Y

This isn't another additional concern given to us from dpw.

Y

I can read it if you want, but it is regarding a turnaround for the northern landfill. I guess I.

Y

Will read it um the northern landfill located at 140 in westminster, utilized by residents.

Y

In commercial entities, current turnarounds on maryland 140 are not adequate for safe movements.

Y

Of multi-axial vehicles in a heavily trafficked corridor, northern landfill is currently in a.

Y

Feasibility study that will include looking into a change to the entrance location, but the crossover.

Y

Traffic will need to be addressed to provide safe crossings of multi-axle vehicles, safety.

Y

Enhancements should include widening of 140 at the turnarounds immediately east and west of the.

Y

Northern landfill development of jug handles for the addition and or the additional of signaling.

Y

So that is what they are requesting. We add to the portion of the letter of additional concerns.

Y

This is something new. This year, um the baltimore metropolitan council bmc has a congestion.

Y

Management process committee and we I am on it- we have been meeting over the past- probably nine.

Y

Months to talk about inter-jurisdictional cooperation with our priority letters.

Y

And they have prepared this text following text for inclusion in the various counties. Priority.

Y

Letters it shows the coordinated efforts to identify and support priorities across.

Y

Jurisdictional boundaries and conveys to mdot the multi-jurisdictional approach to developing.

Y

Priorities, this is obviously optional to all of the counties, and you can include.

Y

Some none or all of what they have suggested, so the next few slides have the suggested language.

Y

The first one is very general, as a member member of the baltimore regional transportation board.

Y

We are very invested in cost-effective, systematic and regionally integrated approaches to addressing.

Y

Multimodal congestion, mobility and safety in the baltimore region, we have identified several.

Y

Regional priorities, this first priority this bullet, which I'm not going to read.

Y

Is addressing the regional transit plan for the state and they've identified.

Y

Corridors, obviously, none of which are in carroll because they're transit corridors, but they are.

Y

Requesting that um that we include this language as a show of inter-jurisdictional cooperation,.

Y

The second bullet is transportation systems, management and operations. It's referred to.

Y

As tismo strategies offer cost-effective and considered approaches that leverage our.

Y

Investments in the existing transportation system, we strongly support funding and implementing tismo.

Y

Strategies, particularly in mdot, sha, tismo system corridors, and then they list them.

Y

And are particularly interested in how these strategies can address the region's freight.

Y

Bottlenecks, I will say that of the eight corridors listed number 11 isn't carol, it's 140. It goes.

Y

From basically westminster through carroll to um all the way to the baltimore beltway to 695.,.

Y

So that is one of the quarters. The other quarters are throughout the rest of the um baltimore region.

Y

They also would like us to say we strongly support, funding and implementing bike and pedestrian.

Y

Projects particularly cross-border projects to enhance safety and provide expanded multimodal.

Y

Options and then final bullet is to facilitate this. We would prioritize the following.

Y

Multi-Jurisdictional quarters and projects that fall within our jurisdiction again, the only one.

Y

That falls within our jurisdiction is number 11 on that bullet. On this, on the top of this page.

Y

And if I can add two for the second bullet, that's our patopstico regional greenway project that.

D

We've been working diligently on, we um have just finished up with our consultant and have reached.

X

That 30 percent design- so this is a project that would go from sykesville- would be the start.

X

Through the patopsco valley down to the inner harbor area, it's a.

X

Great regional project brings tourism dollars um into carroll, county and spill, and.

X

um The alignment's, a wonderful alignment through county property.

X

City property and pepsico valley state park, so that would be one that we would.

X

Really want to encourage that. We include, because it's a great project for regionalism and for carol.

B

Thanks for mentioning I'm a big proponent of this, I think it's a wonderful project.

Y

So the next steps here, based on today's input, we will prepare the next priority letter.

Y

Again, looking as always quite similar to the previous years, with just updates and any.

Y

Additions you want to make um we'll present this letter to you for further discussion.

Y

Probably in several weeks, we'll get your approval of the letter.

Y

Signatures of the delegation in support and we transmit it to the secretary of mdot by april 1st.

X

So, even though the state sometimes order doesn't matter in this letter, but then sometimes it really.

X

Does so my suggestion would be consider what the order of the top priorities are, that we.

X

Have in the letter, um I know that public works feels very strongly about moving maryland 97 up.

X

In the rankings, because there's so much economic development activity happening within maryland,.

X

97 and also some right-of-way acquisition that public works is trying to work with now as road.

X

Improvements and economic development continue along that segment. So again, this is your letter.

X

This is your letter to prioritize what we have on here to include or exclude, or to reorganize.

X

um The different projects, so you talk about moving to second priority up to number one.

A

Yeah, that's, I think what she was sharing. I think um yeah part of that would be that's the request.

A

You know part of that would be um what has the more likelihood of getting accomplished.

A

With the resources that the state's willing to put out there um yeah, if we're looking at economic.

C

Development, I think the amer, the 97 thing is yeah because of the uh industrial parks around it and.

G

Yeah- and you know just like commissioner rance pointed out- they, they changed that made a little.

C

Better now there's more development going on right. No, I I agree. I mean.

A

There's very limited space, industrial space and economic growth, and that is, you know largely on.

A

The 97 corridor right so but again if to me, if uh re-prioritizing putting them putting that above it.

A

Would the state provide the resources to do the things that we want to do.

A

um And if we think that's a true statement, then yeah, I'm I'm for it. uh You know a lot of work's.

A

Being done on 32 for all the right reasons, but um you know that that is a concern is how do we.

A

Expand 97 to make it more appealing for the growth that we want on the 97 corridor. So.

X

One thing to consider for 97 and what we would really push for is to get that study to feasibility study to get.

X

Into what we call, what is being called the chapter 30 scoring system? um That's how.

X

Projects are scored in chapter 30, get into the final ctp. These bigger larger capacity, enhancing.

X

Projects um so making this number one, that's what we would request, so we can move it along in that.

X

Next uh chain, um you know, link in the chain, which is to get it into that chapter. 30 scoring system.

X

Which then puts it in that regional competitive level for um funding for from the ctp yeah.

A

I mean to me that makes sense. um You know.

A

Every time, well, almost every day, when I see these priority letters.

A

I think about uh I used to when I, when I was economic developing around the county. We partnered.

A

With uh the eagb and the greater baltimore and the greater washington board of trade.

A

And where I'm going is that when there were projects- and they were crossing jurisdictions,.

A

You know, especially, like uh you know, the bridges in space between maryland and dc well maryland.

A

Will go as far as maryland wants to go and dc will go as far as dc wants to go where virginia.

A

And then you got this big void, this big gap and we have opportunities.

A

In carroll county, but then we have these gaps when we, when we tie ourselves to these jurisdictions.

A

Howard county baltimore county, you know, frederick county and um montgomery county down mount airy.

A

How do we work with them and understand their priorities, lined up with our priorities so.

A

It's seamless- and um you know down in sykesville, it's 851 is howard county coming from the south.

A

And then it comes into carroll, county right, and so I'm trying to convince howard county to.

A

Say: hey you're, the you're, the entrance into the coolest town in the u.s.

A

Sykesville- and you know it would behoove them to strengthen that that corridor.

A

I don't know I just uh you know it's it's also westminster in carroll county. You know and we're.

A

Working on that is, how do we get westminster to put their resources right? You know together so.

A

I think what I'd like to see is what are the priority letters of other jurisdictions and how.

A

They dovetail to ours, or how do they show the gaps that you know uh exist um by the jurisdiction you.

C

Talk about other counties, other counties yeah um just to see what they had to say: yeah, because.

A

You know it could be, I won't say, frivolous, but not get the value that we think we should be getting.

A

If baltimore county is not doing anything on the other side of the river on 26th or howard counties,.

A

You know stopping at their border and don't want to take on 32 uh up to 851. You know which.

A

Is still their jurisdiction, so I don't know um those are my thoughts. I don't think there's any.

A

uh Action here except discussion, is that correct, linda or mary, um no just more direction so.

X

What I'm hearing is to move 97 up potentially, um and what about the inclusion of maryland 27, adding.

X

That as number five to the letter or somewhere else in that ranking, I would put, I was just.

C

Going to mention that now I've lost my page, but I was going to say. Maybe perhaps we should put that.

C

um On the urban uh reconstruction as uh number three just before transit projects.

C

That would be my suggestion. I think that's a good idea.

B

I think it plays into what was said about the 97 corridor, with the economic development.

B

Because we're also facing the same with 27 quarterly, you don't like that. Mr windham.

J

Well, I I don't know I'll leave it up to mary and linda, but I think it's a bigger.

J

These are like within towns, yeah yeah. It's not that's, not the right place. I was thinking it had.

E

To be number five in the first section, I think mary first section yeah yeah, yes,.

X

Yeah, that is correct. I would suggest that we add that, as one of our past enhancing projects.

A

Well, it's not it's not real, I mean, I guess, maybe part of it goes through the town, but it's not the.

J

Streetscape right the same thing: you're right, you're, right, it's more 27.! It's a big dollar.

X

Amount potentially so we're looking at projects that would be like over five million dollars and.

X

This type of project would be much larger than that, so we could look at it as number five in the.

C

Right, first, highway capacity, enhancement, projects, yeah. That is that's true because it is on 27. I was.

C

Correct yeah, if we had a map, I wouldn't make that mistake. If you wanted.

Y

So would the scope of the project be, as was in the their study that they had in 2016? It went from the.

Y

County line to lyshear road or drive, whichever that is, that was the length of what they were.

Y

Looking at and it was improvements, I can bring that to you next time and and be more prepared for.

Y

You to discuss that in detail, but that was the length of the project sounds about right yeah. I.

C

Think it's good, I mean, I think, that's good for the length of the project. Of course, I I don't.

C

Know if there's any breakout projects that could be included in there, so get something.

Y

On here we'll break out projects, yes right, okay, um so a couple actions. One is adding that to.

A

The highway capacity enhancement projects is number five as written uh two, if uh you would.

A

You know reach out to the other jurisdictions or receive their uh transportation.

A

Program, their uh their plans and requests and see how they tie into uh ours.

A

um I would appreciate that, uh is there anything else? Yes, what about the um suggested language.

Y

From bmc's uh congestion management, did you want to include that in your letter? Yes,.

E

Did you include adding or moving 97 up the number one? Yes? Yes, okay! Okay, I'm good with that.

E

Should have been number one for the last eight years as far as I'm concerned, but well I've been.

E

Talking about that for ever since I got in here, I don't know, and it just sits, I mean they did add.

E

Some things out there which you but but it's it's getting more and more congested now, right because.

C

It made it easier than right what world farm said. Oh yeah, so now that's what the story here is.

E

Yeah yeah, because the chicken actually it gets us into the place where it should be number one.

E

Right, have you seen the chicken? Is there someone dressed as a chicken? No, no there's a big chicken.

E

Sitting out there well how about babies, all's dressed as this one, that's their thing: okay,.

A

What else y'all want to talk about? Ladies? That's, all we have for you.

A

Okay, um before you take off, I just wanted to be sure chris, do we have any callers on this.

G

Answer? Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you, ladies thank you.

A

Chris, do we have any callers.

A

No, we have no caller okay.

A

uh For open admin, the one thing I I just want to add is um it's been seen and I think it was.

A

In the newspaper this morning, delegate krebs making her announcement that she is not running.

A

For re-election, uh this go around um wishing her the best I do know. She also has a new grandbaby.

A

As of last weekend, so a mazel tov to her and her family- and uh you know just want to thank her for.

A

The work that she continues to do and has done for the last 20 years, but um you know work. We do.

A

With the delegation and others is very important as we continue to move forward and it dovetails.

A

Right back into commissioner lansing frazier's engagement, involvement with mako and importance.

A

As some people will say, it's a crazy town down there, but I would never say that um just crazy.

B

I've never called it crazy. I've always called it a quaint, little village, that's correct, yeah! That's.

B

What it is, I'm not looking at you well, please yeah. Okay, anything for open admin. You have minute.

J

Closed minutes to approve, of course, I have those minutes to approve, and I have something to mention.

A

Okay, so we have those minutes on january 27th. What were they for legal legal advice, motion approved.

C

The minutes on january 27th, from close for legal advice. Second, I got a motion. I got a second.

A

Any discussion on it: okay, all in favor all right, okay, four and before we get into agendas.

J

Just real quickly um something that we had traditionally done for many many many years, as was.

J

Derailed by the pandemic and we're hoping it won't be again this year, but we're.

J

At the moment, scheduling uh employee appreciation day.

J

Again on uh may 11th, I'm not sure what day of the week it is. I think it's usually a wednesday.

J

uh Maybe it's a tuesday, I don't know I haven't looked but may 11th 2022.. Will there be live music.

J

No, we don't generally have live music, but it will be at the ag center and um as we've had it in the.

J

Past with food and other uh activities for staff to come and enjoy and we'll all volunteer to help.

B

Serve and stuff like that like before, hopefully, hopefully good yeah, hopefully yep. Hopefully we can.

J

Do it all the way we did it three years ago now you the champion, did you win the tournament before.

B

Well, there was no actual tournament, but if you wanted to have a champion yesterday,.

E

He was eliminated in the first round by you talking about.

D

I don't want to talk about your birdie.

D

Okay, anything else for uh open admin. Ms wanda, you on, let's go over agendas.

A

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J

A

Everyone wanda's there: okay wanda, are you there.

A

Let's check your gear.

C

As long as she can hear- god, I haven't heard that for a day or two yeah, so.

A

What we're going to do is we will go through agendas, with the expectation that you can hear us.

A

And if there are changes, we will add them. So looking at february 7th, we have nothing.

A

February 8th, I will be attending the ag board meeting at 7 pm over the center on wednesday.

A

The mako tax subcommittee, uh commissioner, lance and the legislative committee.

A

Commissioner, frazier and wentz will be attending both being virtual. On thursday, we will have open.

A

Session, starting at nine, we'll have a legislative and update along with a covet update and.

A

Coronavirus relief fund, the crf final report, uh state and local fiscal recovery fund frf.

A

Updates that will be provided and that's all we have right now, but the expectation will be more.

A

Got nothing on friday saturday and commissioner frazier will be wishing.

A

Everybody a happy valentine's day as he does his podcast on the 13th.

A

On the 14th, we have nothing happy valentine's day for all tuesday. The 15th planning commission.

E

Has been canceled has been cancelled: okay veterans, advisory meeting, commissioner weaver.

A

And I will be attending um we'll see if that's virtual, if it stays virtual, maybe in person.

A

On wednesday mayco virtually tax subcommittee with commissioner lance and legislative committee.

A

Weekly meetings with commissioner fraser and lance that actually might be in person.

E

I was going to say it's getting closer, maybe I think they've got the library on west street.

E

Which has a huge room in it and apparently we're looking at doing in person so we'll see.

A

And then, uh on thursday we have open session and right now we just have requests for approval.

A

For annual plan for fiscal year 2022 and that's from the uh bureau of housing.

A

Ms steckel be presenting and nothing friday is saturday, and commissioner boucher has the podcast.

A

On the 20th, I expect those open sessions to fill up uh as time moves on. Am I missing anything.

A

For the good, the group and we are done, I need a motion to adjourn.

A

Motion to adjourn second, I got a motion. I got a second all in favor all right hi. I foreign.

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