Carroll County, MD Board of County Commissioners Open Sessions, 8 Jul 2021

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Good morning it's uh commissioner rothstein july, 8th thursday morning we have open session.

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This morning, and we will then have open session this afternoon having a work session.

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To talk about the relief funds, the federal relief funds and how carroll county will be focusing our.

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Attention on the federal relief funds at a very high level uh discussion for this afternoon should.

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Be a two to three hour session, as always before we start. uh Let's stand for the pledge of allegiance.

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Take a moment of silence: please keep for me those in florida. The condominium catastrophe is now.

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A recovery effort and keep those that have been lost uh in the prayers and thoughts of family and.

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Friends and let them all be a memory and blessing to them as they have been lost. Let's stand.

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I pledge the united states of america and go to the republic for which it stands. One nation.

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Under god, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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As the air is getting more purified, we're going to go into priority carol.

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And uh let's start uh from my left to right, commissioner boucher.

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Thank you. First, I want to apologize for not having my sport coat on. I walked out of housewarming hot.

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Weather forgot it I'll correct that next time I want to start out by thanking andrea burssler.

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With the library department for sending us all books and gifts and advocating tales and tales.

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Reading summer and it's tales as an animal tales and stories if anyone's interested in summer.

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Reading programs with the library please go to the county website and check that out and uh mr.

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Swam, do you have any uh tour visit information to bring up for me, I did a tour with there. We go with.

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Chris linochen in the department of public works. Here's our crew out there surveying.

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For the upgrade and replacement of the culverts, we have several thousand throughout the county and.

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They've done a wonderful job, here's a schematic of one of the repairs. Our crews are going out.

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And putting these things on their gps there's one under construction. They had to completely remove.

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The culvert they put these drain lines in as they set the new pipes in place. This is an extensive, a.

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Lot of work for the county, I'm very much impressed that they're computerizing all of it. Each culvert.

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Site is being set up with gps and numbered and they're keeping record of all the maintenance.

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So it's a great project, you're involved in I'd, like to thank everyone out in the dpw.

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That we don't really see behind the scenes making all this happen for us for public.

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Safety and then quality road, so thank you for everyone in dpw, especially mr lanojin. Thank you.

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Okay, commissioner weaver uh well, first of all, we are in a new fiscal year. The fourth july.

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uh Was a great event and I did attend the uh farm museum fireworks and I just want to.

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Thank jack, laverne and bonnie staub joanne wendt and their staff for putting that event.

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On probably about 6 000 people attended, and uh it was phenomenal fireworks this year and they.

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Did a great job of putting it together, they've been invited to run the ocean city fireworks.

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Next year, yeah well, that was kind of a fizzle down there anyway, uh and I want to thank the police.

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Force uh they got people out of there. They are so organized the way they had traffic flowing and.

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Moving uh the sheriff's department state police, everybody involved in it just did a tremendous job.

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Of getting traffic out in and out in uh really the number of cars in a really quick fashion, so that.

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Was great and just one other side note you know occasionally somebody gives me a call on something.

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And one was, uh you know, I have a piano, it's in beautiful shape. Do you have anybody that wants it.

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And uh we're standing here in the office one day and jeff daggets happened to be there.

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I don't know what made me think of. We were talking about some of the events. You know if uh anybody.

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Needs a piano and uh they did it, rob the mooton center and uh peggy horner donated this piano. That.

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uh It was her mother-in-law's, they were cleaning the house out and beautiful shape like new.

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You know, and I think our roads department sent a crew out to move it and uh took it to.

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Moten center, it's going to be used for their activities and uh I think jeff was at least.

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Appreciative of the fact we have it, but you'd be surprised. Sometimes people have something that.

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You know it's in great shape that way and they make the right comment. uh Things come together.

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And we, the county, can benefit from it and they were trying to donate it to somebody that could.

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Really use it, so I appreciate that. Okay, thank you, commissioner, wants yes you're up oh good morning.

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Happy uh july we haven't been here, you're a happy man this morning. It's still happy. You are happy.

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Out of the gate, I'd like to uh congratulate our state's attorney mr de leonardo, who was.

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uh Recently, given the judge, uh seat and um well-deserved brian's done an amazing job here,.

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In carroll and has built himself to the point where he is highly regarded across the state.

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As a matter of fact, he was involved in many many things that occurred across the state. They relied.

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On his expertise, so to brian congratulations, there's a couple things coming up for him. I think.

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Some of us will be attending so kudos to him on that over the last several weeks. I also attended.

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The maryland association of county's springboard retreat and that's always held in the county of.

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The president, the sitting president, this year, it was in caroline county. It had been a while, except.

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For going through, caroline at mach speed to get somewhere else that I had been in caroline county.

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Normally you're sitting in traffic going there normally yeah, I'm sitting in traffic on 404, but.

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If we had a chance to really uh delve into many areas of caroline county- and it is a gorgeous.

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County uh thought about all of you, as we were going through some of those things we started out.

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uh At about a dairy operation down there, dick- and I had you in my mind there- they were milking.

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Over 700 head of of of cows there and it's amazing operation, all computerized it just it's so amazing.

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There we had a lot of great tours, but we did do a good bit of business as well, and one of those.

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Important business meetings that we had was about expanding our broadband access, so chop.

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Tank electric was there chop tanks doing an amazing job in several counties. On the other.

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Side of the bridge, I'm trying to lobby them to come on this side of the bridge. I haven't been.

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Successful yet, but working on that, but they're providing resources down there, that the the isp.

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That we have in this county is not, and that's the comcast folks chop tank has gone above and beyond.

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And a lot of folks are getting uh wired internet into their homes back long driveways.

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For next to nothing and they're subsidizing, all of that and as a result, a lot of folks are.

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Getting internet down there at a quicker pace than what we are here. So it's all about these internet.

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Service providers and we've got to continue to try to to push other isps and I'm going to say it.

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Other than comcast, because they cannot be the only game in town we've got some good isps here and.

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We've got to help them and um they're they're working together, choptank actually mentioned.

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A couple of the isps that are here in this county and they're kind of comparing notes so that that's.

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A good thing, so uh we got to get, we got to get there quicker instead of relying on one so more.

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To come I'll, be sharing that, with everybody uh later on, I've been to three planning and zoning.

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Sessions since we last met, those folks are doing an amazing job. There's a lot going on and a lot.

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Of that is soon going to come to our level, they actually had a public work session last week and.

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That went very, very well heard some great comments from a lot of folks, especially in the eldersburg.

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Area and uh I I applaud them for doing that, so kudos to them. So a lot going on and planning.

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And um bza, I want to bring that up. We've got a couple new folks on bza and I don't know if most.

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Folks know this, but we're now into the interview mode with folks on planning and board of zoning.

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And apparently that's paying off because they had some very challenging.

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Issues at the last bza- and uh I got word that the new folks stepped up mightily and did a great job.

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There so we're that that's that's doing very well, so um I think we got some good fits there.

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So those two are very important, and I've said this before uh very important and.

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The fact that we have a commissioner sitting on planning and zoning is incredibly important too.

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Because there's a lot of things on there that get questioned that can be answered right away.

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That eliminates that delay, if you will so good stuff happening on both of those so.

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uh Kudos to everybody there it's that time of year, again speaking of mako, real quick.

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There we'll begin our work next week on the initiatives that we're going to try to go after.

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At the upcoming legislative session, so to all the staff that are watching- and I know they all watch.

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Along with the thousands of other viewers, uh if there is an initiative that you feel as if we.

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Should be going after at the in the legislative session, please make sure that that gets fed to.

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To myself so that I can I'm actually honored to serve on that subcommittee again this year.

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And uh mako has been very successful with some of those initiatives. So if there's something.

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You feel as if needs to change, bring it our way and finally, I always end with a public safety.

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Message, it's been kind of hot lately, it does so heat emergencies are, are.

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Important to remember, don't ever exert yourself out there make sure you're, hydrating, etc and also.

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Keep your eye on the apps everybody's got one or two cell phones, strapped to their body somewhere.

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Get a weather app on there. It looks like we're going to have maybe some interesting weather over.

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The next 48 hours with uh elsa, probably a bad name for a storm because wasn't elsa the bad one in the.

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In the disney thing, the wicked witch or she wasn't, she, the yeah, the little mermaids yeah.

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That was, I think, elsa was the bad. I don't know anyway. um You want to know that burke.

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Anyway, elsa could bring some rain, wind, etc. So keep your eye on that, especially this summer. A.

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Thunderstorm can pop up at any time very dangerous, lightning heat emergencies. All that keep your eye.

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On things so there's my public safety message for the day and now I'm done are you sure I.

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Think, okay, commissioner fraser, actually I'm going to start with where commissioner wants to end it.

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With the heat and all the emergencies that we have lately remember, there are cooling centers around.

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The county in the public library, senior centers that are air conditioned, if you don't have air.

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Conditioning in your house, if you're starting to feel sick to your stomach or hot or something.

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Like that, go to the cooling center sit down, relax, keep yourself well, hydrated, cooling centers are.

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Open and you can go into the library or a senior center at any time, even if you're not using.

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Them as a cooling center to maybe get a book or something I don't know, but it's just a good idea.

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Cooling centers are open. You don't have to sit in on air conditioned space, especially you know.

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If it's affecting you in a terrible way- and another thing I want to bring up- is.

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For some reason, summer seems to be the time of year for scams. People are coming after you.

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On the internet, on your phone and sometimes in person, I was just out the other day. I won't say.

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Where it was what a shopping center in westminster- and I hear sir sir I'm thinking is that, on my.

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Phone somebody call me or what and a lady drives up in her car. She says to me: she needs help.

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She needs money to get gas, so she can go, get her medicine and I look at her and she has.

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To say she looks like she needs help, but I walked over to her and I handed her my.

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Card and I said call the county number here: ask for citizen services and help you out.

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She said I didn't want your help. I wanted some money, so she got neither I just, but so not.

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Everyone is genuine when they're coming up to try to to get something. Just keep that in mind, because.

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I was actually because she had a good stories reaching them. I said you know, I give her a card.

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Instead of a couple bucks- and I was actually going to give her a dollar to afterwards, but.

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When she said that okay, I realized she probably didn't- need the help that she was asking for.

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Last thing: I want to bring up covet's, not over new variants in town. If you haven't been vaccinated.

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Go out and get vaccinated, they're free! You can go almost anywhere to get them now, not almost.

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Anywhere you can't go to, but you can go a lot of different places to get vaccinated, get vaccinated.

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I don't know what the head hesitancy is but get it done. I mean they're, you know they, the governor, the.

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State of maryland offered money uh for for people that are vaccinated now, there's a scholarship.

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Offer for students and so forth, get it done. It just helps everybody else around and that's all.

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I have to say thank you, okay, thank you, and I appreciate that and that segues also to where.

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I just want to talk a minute about the vaccinations as well. um It's interesting.

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That we're providing different incentives for you to get vaccinated. It's not necessary that.

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I agree going door to door and things like that because I do believe in you know: people having.

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Their own rights on making decisions uh on whether they should be vaccinated or not.

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However, with that said, those that are not vaccinated, there was a health uh memo or.

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Public safety message came out last week from maryland, suggesting not mandating but suggesting.

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That those that are not vaccinated should not be going into public buildings, unmasked.

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So I think what I want to do is maybe during open admin talk about recognizing some of these.

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uh You know not again not mandates, but suggestions made by our governor and health department. Our.

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Governor said yesterday that all deaths happened this past month were those that were not.

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Vaccinated all hospitalizations or predominantly hospitalizations are those that are not vaccinated.

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um And that is very alarming, so my civil liberties, my challenge, is.

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Being around folks that are not vaccinated, they're getting sick, am I putting myself in harm's way.

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And that's a concern so again more to more to discuss, uh as as the session moves on um a couple.

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Other things relatively quick uh unemployment, we continue to do very well, I'm very.

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You know, I believe we are very fortunate to have a great team we're at 4.1 percent. We lead the state.

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In unemployment uh in our rankings and just again, congratulations to all of the hard work both in.

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The business community, along with uh burke and our workforce development folks um july 3rd, while july.

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4Th weekend, I thought was also wonderful. On july 3rd, the coolest small town in the united states.

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Sykesville had their uh parade and it was a lot of fun audrey and I got to ride on the back of a 1968.

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Teal color camaro, which was awesome. I mean we'll talk about a beautiful vehicle and.

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Then we got to uh judge uh the parade, or at least audrey got the judge. I got to kind of walk around.

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And I was, I think one of the highlights was seeing our fellow commissioner commissioner, wants leading.

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The westminster band down main street uh very proud with that whistle making sure everybody.

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Was lined up, you did a great job, I mean that's, you know doing this and the whistle and lining people.

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Up you know, there's a lot of details. I'm sure there is. You didn't salute me this time. Last time.

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You slipped, that's right, I didn't see you, there were so many people there there was. There was.

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There was a crowd of people, there were thousands, I couldn't believe it when we made that turn and.

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Looked down there, I'm like there was um everybody. I think that lives in sykesville may have come out.

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Yeah there really was there was, uh I would guess, between three to five thousand uh on main street.

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So very impressive, um a couple other things: the 75 000 acre uh we're going to be doing a ceremony.

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In october, flyers are starting to be put out and really looking forward to highlighting what almost.

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What carroll county is all about, but something that carroll county has been striving towards.

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Since 1980 with a hundred thousand of preserved acreage uh ag preservation and we hit the 75.

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000 mark so really look forward to uh having that event um in october. Lastly, I just want.

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To share, I had a town hall uh last week on tuesday. I had one in the morning evening and.

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Probably had about 100 folks uh in total there maybe a little bit more than that.

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uh Great dialogue, um great discussion, it segued very well into the planning and zoning.

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Discussions that you had on the following day on the 30th, so uh I love it when the community is.

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Engaged and they do not feel that they are being neglected, they feel like they're, getting the.

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Conversation that we are listening to what they have to say and we're following up, so uh that was.

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A large part of the takeaways from uh tuesday from that town hall, so you know great job for everyone.

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Okay, with all of that said, let's move on. Can we move on to the first item.

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I don't see anybody from the circuit court, nor do I see ted.

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We were told they were on their way. Are they here? So, let's move on to item door's.

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They're locked amongst themselves, are we ready. They should be here, they're supposed to be.

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Here at 9, 15., okay or we can move on to item two vicki's here. Yeah, so did you want you uh coming up.

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Let's move on to the sheriff's department request for approval of fy 22 child support enforcement.

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Administration's cooperative reimbursement agreement and acceptance of the award.

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Morning, commissioners, good morning so we're here today to bring to your attention and I'm going to.

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Go through and read this information, the sheriff's office works with the circuit court and the local.

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Department of social services to provide the child support enforcement services in carroll county.

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The sheriff's office, locates absent parents, serves them with complaints.

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To establish or increase child support and serves warrants, grits body attachments and.

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Criminal bench warrants to delinquent parents, the agreement funds, the salaries and benefits.

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Of one full-time, sheriff's, deputy and 75 percent of an administration administrative position as.

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Well, as various expenses related office supplies, training equipment and other operating expenses,.

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So for the program, the entire program costs, as you can see about two hundred and fifty.

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Nine thousand six hundred and fifteen dollars the grant provides for hundred and sixty one.

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Thousand five hundred and thirty eight dollars with an in-kind and county cash match of 98.77.

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This is an annual grant. The costs on behalf of the county are included in various budgets.

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So it's something that we work with on a joint effort every year. So if there's.

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Any questions I can answer any questions: how how long is this cramping going on.

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Wow yeah since before I've been here, yeah, okay, um okay, yeah, I'm not sure how many years but.

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Yes, it's an annual agreement on the state is who we go through for the funding and the match has.

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Been always providing a deputy, the match is for indirect costs and for other portions, the state.

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Has formulas built into how much they fund versus how much the county matches? Okay, okay,.

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Any other questions I'll move. The board commissioner's approved submission at ffy.

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2022, child support enforcement administration, cooperative reimbursement agreement wow for the.

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Sheriff's office and accepted award. Second, okay: I got a motion. Second, any further discussion.

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Could I have, could you read that again.

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Okay, I'm so rudely interrupted all in favor.

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Thank you very much. I think, commissioner, wants to need to go back on vacation. Let's move on to.

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The circuit court and requesting approval of the fy 22 child support enforcement administration's.

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Cooperative reimbursement agreement and acceptance of the award good morning, commissioners, I'm corey.

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Hardinger with the grants office and with me is magistrate brewer pool from the circuit court.

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And also in attendance is rachel miller, the magister pool's judicial assistant and jessie.

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Roebuck from um she's the child support supervisor from carroll county dss, so this is very similar to.

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What vicky just spoke of- but this is the circuit courts portion of the grant. So um this grant.

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Magistra pool hears approximately 45 cases each month related to child support, and this grant.

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Funds, the salaries dedicated to child support efforts, um including the judicial assistant, to.

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Bailiffs and circuit court operating expenses and as you'll see the county, there is a county match.

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Required as well, it's lower because, like vicki said, there's a formula that determines the match.

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Required and the match is budgeted in the county budget each year, so this is money that is is.

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Allocated each year to this grant and the county dollars provide general support across the grant.

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Is there anything you would like to add? I think that or any questions for magic.

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But any questions the uh the 45 cases a month is that about the same, as has been past years,.

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Going up or down I'm just curious, except for yes, except for during the time that we were closed.

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Last year, but other than that, yes, so usually um right now we're low because obviously they.

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Were they didn't, have an opportunity to always see people so we're just working our way back up? Okay,.

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But fortunately we were able to keep the child support administration kept working with everyone.

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And we were able to keep moving, so we don't we're not. We don't have a lot of backup. Okay, okay, are we.

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Seeing trends of downward trends um I mean, is this working? Is this so far? um What I would say is that.

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Obviously, with the financial constraints that a lot of people are dealing with, we are dealing.

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With trying to work with them to the best of our abilities, try to you know they they're trying to.

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Come up with better circumstances. In addition, the child support guidelines were supposed to go into.

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Effect new ones october 1st of this year, but they will not go into effect now until july. 30Th by.

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Statute they they held that off and I think that's why only for the same very reason people are just.

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Getting back to work and those kind of things, if I may is this department stressed or is it.

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Properly funded and supplied with labor how how's the the view of where you're at for where I am.

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I am properly staffed because I fortunately have a very good assistant and we have two bailiffs.

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Each when I have a docket, the bales are both there, one in the hallway and one because, obviously, when.

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You have that many people coming in some people were fortunate that they've been able to discuss.

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Their case with the child support administration before they get there, so they don't all have to.

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Be in the hallway, but obviously that's been a bit of a challenge right now, because the the pandemic.

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Has affected different agencies in different ways, so it's good to hear that you guys are okay.

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Yes, thank you yes, and let's get a lot of bang for the buck, because 45 grand doesn't sound like a lot.

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Seriously right we do, I I I won't. I won't argue with that. I think we we're very fortunate. I was.

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Going to announce that you're correct! That's why yeah it's less than last year, but not by.

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Much but it is less even than last year, because what was last year, 46, okay, so it.

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Really was just yeah, it was 46 413. So it's not a lot wow yeah and is it is uh formula based.

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Yes, all of that, all the calculations that are on our budget sheet yep in the in there and mostly.

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That it, the budget summary that you'll see breaks down everything for, but it that's all that, like.

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That's all the formula for that, because I was thinking the same thing: yeah.

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Okay, okay, anything further! Now you want me to read this one, because the left side was a little weird.

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I moved we approved the submission of the fy 22 csea cooperative reimbursement agreement and.

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Accept the award I'll second, that you did a great job. Thank you, commissioner. Weaver. Okay, we got a.

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Motion in a second a very happy second, any further discussion seen here, none all in favor, all right.

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Thank you so much. Thank you so much. You all provide a very vital service for community.

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So, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate your support, always you're very welcome.

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Let's talk about the fy 22 program, open space allocation to municipalities,.

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I mean just wait what you know me he's like huh who there was one we're doing that today.

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Good morning, good morning, mr david, here today to talk about the municipal grants of program open.

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Space funding every year we take 25 percent of our allocation from the state of maryland.

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And we dedicate that towards municipal projects and out of the eight municipalities they take.

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Turns four will go one year: the other four go the following year. So for this year for fy 22.

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The town's scheduled to receive the funding or new windsor tawney town union bridge and westminster.

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And the local chapter of the maryland municipal league has recommended that the following projects.

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Be considered for approval and I'll run through them, real quick.

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New windsor 201 main street park and also maple avenue park various improvements at each of those.

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Sites tawny town is resurfacing: tennis and basketball, courts at tawny, town memorial park.

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Union bridge they're looking to do some repairs to the roof over the entrance way at the union.

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Bridge community center, as well as some new playground, equipment and westminster, is looking.

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To start implementation of their master plan for the wakefield valley property, each of them.

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Would get an even share of the funding? Ninety thousand one hundred and twenty four dollars.

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And it would be a total of three hundred and sixty thousand four hundred ninety six dollars that.

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Would go towards these projects and then what we would do is we would submit our annual program to.

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The state of maryland that would include these town projects, along with our county projects,.

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And looking for your approval so that we can move forward and go ahead and submit.

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That annual program director daggett yes, sir, since two of these municipalities in my district.

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Do they have any layouts or designs yet of what they want to do, or is it just visionary at this.

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Point it's more visionary! Now the community center, the building, obviously, is there as well as the.

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Walkway going in, they have a current roof over top of that walkway. That is in pretty poor condition.

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So they'll be looking to use the funding to repair that roof.

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Playground equipment, they have not decided on how much and I think that's going to be.

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Something that's happening in stages over time, because playground equipment is not cheap, yeah.

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As this gets closer and they have a better idea, what they want, please keep me informed. I'd love.

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To go out and visit both these sites with you all right, absolutely thank you.

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Anything further.

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Wakefield's getting somewhere it's good to see that moving forward yeah it is it really.

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Is that's a beautiful property, my wife and I walk there pretty regularly and there's a lot.

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Of things that go into design and planning and the permitting so this is starting that process.

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You won't see construction for a little bit, but I know the city did just do some paving.

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Over there in the parking lot, so they are starting to move forward with it. Yeah that's good to hear.

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Because I know there's a lot of uncertainty as to which way they were going so right.

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Sounds like they're on the move: now: okay, okay, with that I'll move, the board of county.

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Commissioners approve the recommendation of the local chapter of the maryland municipal league for.

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Fy 2022 municipal program, open space projects; second thought: okay: that was pretty good. That time.

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I got a motion, I got a second, I got a wisecrack all in favor.

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Thank you very much. Absolutely thank you. Jeff okay, mr ripper, want to come on down. I think he'll be.

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Here, for a little bit, we're going to talk about a bit approval for genetic advantage, support renewal.

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This morning, jen net tech, jen medtech. What do you think, mr ripper jeannette tech morning.

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Commissioners, okay, um we're here this morning to get your approval for the continuation of the.

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Support for the genetech system in the amount of twenty nine thousand six hundred and eight.

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Dollars and ninety three cents, um just to give you a little bit of information, the genotech system is.

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A security product for video surveillance access control used in the county facilities when you do.

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Your badge swipe, that's all part of the genetech system. The support includes technical support and.

F

Software updates, which are very important as far as uh cyber security is concerned, and we've had.

F

A lot of success with this company, the uh price is about the same as it was last year. It was 26.

F

000, that's gone up to 29 and the reason for that is not price increases, but additional equipment.

F

Being purchased for support when you swipe your badge on here, does that when you swipe the badge.

B

Does that say who's wiping the badge? Yes like I'm just choosing yeah yeah and I thought it.

F

Was generates reports we can tell who's came in, came out right, okay, so this support. um Is it a.

A

Subcontract to marathon technology, I mean they're, the ones who implement it. uh How does this work.

F

Sixten would you like to uh address that good morning, commissioner sixton is our genetech.

F

Expert, so so this is would be purchased through marathon. However, the contract is directly with.

P

Genotech, so it is a line for us to call genetech support directly with the manufacturer. For that.

P

Support and we get the firmware update software updates directly from gen attack.

A

um And you believe that's the most efficient way of getting it done, or should we.

A

Just be using marathon with expectations that they're going to so it um it works out very.

P

Efficiently for us, because it gives us direct communications with genetech's engineering staff,.

P

They can they have a lot more depth within the product. You know, obviously, since it's their.

P

Software that they've written that yeah they're able to provide us a much deeper level of support.

P

Than through an integrator, so the integrator typically does all the hardware installation.

H

For us right and then all the software support we do directly with the manufacturer.

P

Okay, yeah, I'm I'm just looking comforting confidence in you that we got the right. You know.

A

Process you know putting this software into the integrator uh to support ourselves. Okay,.

A

Sounds good yeah? No, it runs very smoothly that operation. We have right now between the.

P

Integrator and genotech thanks: okay, I'll move. The board of commissioners approve the renewal.

A

Of support for not genetic but genotech advantage to marathon technology solutions incorporated in.

A

An amount of twenty nine thousand six hundred eight dollars and ninety three cents. Second,.

A

I got a motion in a couple of seconds any further discussion scene here, none all in favor, okay,.

A

5.0: okay mark talk to me about project management. Software subscription, renewal.

F

Again, the department of technology services and public uh works is requesting your approval to.

F

Renew the annual subscription for the project management software to ec america for a total.

F

Of thirty seven thousand two hundred thirty nine dollars and twenty four cents, um this is the.

F

Budgeted amount and again there is no change in the cost over last year. This project management.

F

Software enables staff from the airport, building construction engineering facilities, roads, solid.

F

Waste and utilities to manage multiple projects in one place, with increased accountability.

F

Transparency collaboration both internally and externally, so it has a lot of built-in features.

F

That makes it easy for them to use and and makes it very efficient for them to use, and I have.

F

Some representatives here today, if you had any additional questions about this particular product.

G

So you're throwing stuff into this software based on projects that need to be done at.

G

Various locations throughout the county is that right savings terms. Correct commissioner, good okay,.

E

And this is being used right at presently uh very heavily used, yeah, okay annual subscription.

A

I mean we've talked previously about looking into um you know two to five year tenure, whatever.

A

Subscriptions correct uh for cost savings. um Is this something that can be looked at that way or.

A

No, no, they will not they. They want to do it one year at a time so, but the price did not change so.

F

Yeah: okay, okay, that'll, make the most of the board of commissions to prove the renewal of.

B

The annual subscription for the project management software to ec america for.

B

Thirty: seven thousand two hundred thirty nine dollars and twenty four cents. Second,.

A

I was gonna second, but the 24 cents caught me off guard. So, okay, I got a motion. I got a second you're.

A

Still hung up on genetic. I know okay uh motion. Second, any further discussion, seeing here, none all.

A

In favor all right, 5-0, okay, you're two for two, mr ripper, renewal of support for dude solutions. Just.

A

Asset essentials, I apologize huge solutions. Yes, it is very interesting.

A

Do we have the dude here? I don't think we have the dude here. Yes, does god leave here because.

G

Can we do this without god leave? I don't know, I think he should read. The motion he's been hiding.

B

In the back room here, okay, so talk to us about the dude solution. Sure I said central department.

F

Technology services is requesting your approval for the renewal of the support of dude solution.

F

Ascent asset essentials in the amount of 27 and eighty nine 596.89. This is about a seven percent.

F

Increase over last year in the cost- and it is budgeted we have all the money we need for it.

F

Asset essentials is a work order system, an asset management program for the bureau of facilities.

F

All work orders are processed in the software, along with forecasting capital projects and.

F

Assets throughout the county, so it's not only used on a daily basis to handle all the projects that.

F

They're getting in the request they're getting, but it also helps them look at their budget in.

F

The future to see where they might need to make changes or adjustments and again I have staff here.

F

That can talk to you a little bit more about the product. If you need what caused the seven percent.

A

Increase besides them, making a decision to go seven percent. Is there what's the rationale for.

A

Seven percent increase it's just the increase that that we've gotten for this year for the product.

F

And we do this annually as well. Yes, this is an annual renewal.

F

I mean that that's a pretty dramatic increase um more so well, since the other three had none.

F

It does seem a little significant at this point, but we have other products that have gone up by.

F

At least that much the support over time yeah, I think this is a sign of the inflationary pressures.

E

Is it possible to get a multi-year contract with dude? No, no! No dudes! Don't do that. Dude.

B

Dude seriously, just surfing yeah we've had a couple of companies that have been.

F

Willing to go on a multi-year contract, but a lot of them don't want to do it.

F

Because they just don't know what the future's gonna, so I there there's a.

A

A significant amount of these contracts, I think what could help is a spreadsheet and I'm sure.

A

You already have on is this: software is a service. Is this hardware the um the contract? Is it annual.

A

Is it two year three year, okay, to allow us to look at this holistically to say what are we doing.

A

You know as far as redundancy and then also going after uh multiple year, because.

A

We're you know you're getting the same questions sure. So if we can get that laid out, I think that.

A

Would help yeah we could do? I have. I have a very you're correct. I do have a very good starting.

F

Imagine, based on that, with a spreadsheet with all of these, you could probably use.

E

This system forecasting the capital project and assets. It's all about. You can use the dude okay.

A

Now that we've exhausted the dude uh I'll move the board of commissioners to approve the renewal.

A

Of support for dude solutions, asset essentials, two dude solutions incorporated in the amount of.

A

Twenty seven thousand five hundred ninety six dollars, eighty nine cents exactly okay, I got.

A

A motion a couple of seconds anything further to talk about the dude shane here. None all in favor.

H

Yeah, okay, 500. dude come on.

D

Okay, that's president you're three for three with a bit of jacularity involved: okay, let's talk about.

A

Intelli time system annual support, okay, the department of technology services request your.

F

Approval for the contract of the intellitime system, annual support to intellitime systems.

F

Corporation in the amount of twenty six thousand six hundred and sixty dollars again, this is the.

F

Same price as last year- and we have the money in the budget for this- the intellitime system.

F

Corporation is the provider of the time and attendance software it's called vti is what we.

F

Actually use here in the county, some people are using it put their time in on the computer when.

F

They clock in and out other people actually use a time clock by swiping the annual support contract.

F

Includes software upgrades patches, bug, fixes and all the support for the hardware as well any time.

F

Clocks and all that we have here so it covers all that and again this when it says software updates.

F

Those are really really important. I will emphasize those all the time cyber security, it's important.

F

That software is kept up to date, as they determine could be possible um holes for people to get into.

A

As we recently saw, the latest ransomware, which was a hole and not fishing, so it's important.

A

It's it's a whole bunch of businesses um across the country from small businesses to large, but it.

A

Had to do with not a fishing situation had to do with an actual hole in a system, so these type of.

A

Software updates yeah. This one was really scary. Commissioners, it's just a second to talk about it.

F

One company was attacked and the company that was attacked they were able to get through.

F

Their system and attack 1500 of their clients wow because it was a hole in their system, not opening.

A

An email or anything like that, so software and upgrades to our system to ensure that these are.

A

You know minimized is essential, which is we can appreciate that? Okay, um where are we at.

A

Okay, I'll move the board of commissioners award the contract for intelligent time, so the system.

A

Annual support to a teletime systems corporation, the amount of twenty six thousand six hundred.

A

Sixty dollars, second, I got a motion. I got a second anything further to discuss on this really.

A

Appreciate all the work you're doing, mr ripper, all in favor all right, okay, thank you, commissioners,.

D

Thank you and mr ripper. If everything is going on the headlines of the news, you are such a critical.

D

Vital component of our administration to protect us- and we are very grateful- also like to comment.

D

It's nice to see so many staff members here today. I think it's the most we've had and since we come.

D

Back, we've missed you guys, so it's go. I think the public can't see there's around a dozen.

D

People here, but thanks for everyone being here, it means a lot to us. Thank you, commissioner. I.

A

Was going to come in on your tie, like you spilled some soup on it, but that's a different. You know.

A

A

Thank you, mr watch. You wanna come on up here. Let's talk about the hampstead wastewater treatment.

A

Plant uh in our upgrade project, a change order yuck good morning. Let's talk about change, orders.

Q

The office of procurement and cooperation with the bureau of utilities requests the commissioners.

Q

To approve the change order to conwago enterprises in the amount of seventy two thousand twenty.

Q

Dollars and thirty three cents, this will be for labor and general condition, costs that.

Q

Are associated with the 75-day extension for the hempstead water treatment plant enr upgrade.

R

Good morning, gentlemen, and as always thank you for including me on your busy schedule.

R

um As you are aware of the construction of the hampstead wastewater treatment, plant enr upgrade.

R

Project started in november of 2018 and was originally scheduled for completion in may of 2021.

R

Ever since that time, the contractor connewago has performed work in an exceptional manner.

R

The plan has been rebuilt while maintaining full treatment of hampstead's wastewater flow.

R

This change order request is for a time extension and not for any additional work. The basis of the.

R

75-Day time extension is the direct association of the limitations of the old plant and the major.

R

Construction adjustments that the contractor had to make to ensure that the plant maintained.

R

Very effective treatment of the hampstead wastewater stream during during construction.

R

While major components were taken, offline for upgrade contractor staff has worked very well.

R

With wastewater treatment staff to to meet all maryland department of the environment standards.

R

During this time period, my overall takeaway during this past two and a half years, is that.

R

The old plant was in much worse shape than was realized and that the county wastewater treatment.

R

Staff should be commended for the for keeping the plant operating as well as they have during the.

R

Time period leading up to the construction and during this construction period itself.

R

This request extends the completion date to july 26th. Work will definitely be completed.

R

By that time uh also, please be aware that mde has indicated that costs associated with this.

R

Time extension will be eligible for the same 48.86 bay, restoration fund, reimbursement value.

R

As the original project and finally, we are scheduling a ribbon cutting ceremony.

R

And plaque ceremony in september, the entire board is, is invited and there will be a brief tour.

R

Either before or after the ceremony before, why are you applying to commissioner? I heard there.

D

Was launch provided at this wastewater one takeaway that I've learned over the past few.

R

Years is there's three things you don't ever do at the wastewater treatment plan. Don't visit on.

R

A windy day, don't touch any hand railings and do not eat at the plant. How about bite your nails.

R

You're on your own and don't drink the water all right with that, any questions for me uh why such.

E

A long time in the extension here I mean this is probably four to five months extension. We didn't.

R

Couldn't it it it's it's a two and a half month, extension and and basically the the contractor.

R

And I have had conversations about this. The contractor waited until the very end. To summarize.

R

All these delays, we anticipated an extension of time coming, but the contractor did have some fault.

R

In waiting until the very end to extend time- and I want to re-emphasize that it's no additional work.

R

It's simply the matter of the contractor having to adjust his schedule just to keep the old.

R

Plant functioning, as well as it was in treating the wastewater stream. It's a very complicated.

R

Project, uh I'm I'm amazed at what was done during the construction to keep the plant functioning.

R

And to trend in the the the new components that were upgraded during the course of construction.

E

But they contracted to do the work here and it wasn't any additional thing: don't do it to be done.

E

Other than a time and that's correct, that's that's correct the the um the the uh consulting firm who.

R

Who did the plans and scheduling for us? uh They? They did their their best guess, based on their.

R

Experience as far as the time parameters that that that would be involved in the construction aspects.

R

But it became obvious during construction that there were complications involved, that we had to.

R

Scale back on on certain uh timeline standards and and key points and and.

R

And work with the contractor to to to keep the old portions of the old plant functioning.

R

In little of what was planned for for the construction techniques, is this up to 75 days.

A

So it's um so it's is this uh not to exceed 72 000 like it could end up being less yes,.

R

Yeah and approximately half of that will will be part of the reimbursement from the state.

R

Of maryland and we're basically paying for an extension of general conditions and and three.

R

Three key personnel: okay, anything further has to be done so.

A

Any further discussion on this I'll make the most in the board of commissioners approve.

B

The change order to the conowingo enterprises incorporated an amount of seventy two thousand.

B

Twenty dollars and thirty three cents for the labor and general conditions costs associated.

B

With the 75 day, extension of time to complete construction of the hampstead wastewater.

B

Treatment plant, er n up upgrade project. Second, okay got a motion. I got a second.

A

All in favor all right: okay, now, let's talk about the treatment plants in our upgrade project change.

A

Order for an extension of construction management inspection services- yes, this will be.

Q

Also, um we'll be a change order and we request your approval to issue the change order to george.

Q

Miles and burr in the amount of eighty thousand five hundred eighty seven dollars and fifty cents.

Q

This will be for the construction extension of the construction management and inspection services.

Q

Of the 75-day extension to time frame to complete the construction of the hampstead wastewater.

Q

Treatment plant enr upgrade project gentlemen. Many of the comments that I made for the previous.

R

Item obviously apply to to this item as well um with the complex nature of the enr upgrade project.

R

George miles george miles and burr were contracted to to provide inspection and.

R

Construction management services for the project uh during the period of time since, since work.

R

Began in november of 2018 they they have provided very, very effective work for us. This request is.

R

For a 75-day extension of costs for these services, based on the original cmi contract, as as per that.

R

Contract gmd staff have both been at the plant and assigned to the project on a full-time basis to to.

R

Provide inspection and construction management services throughout the extent of the project.

R

As construction winds down and the new plant becomes fully operationable, it is critical to to.

R

Continue with these services, as with the previous item, please be aware that mde has indicated.

R

That a portion of these costs will be assumed will be eligible for the same bay, restoration.

R

Reimbursement value as the original project, any questions for me so basically we're paying 150 000.

A

For a 75-day extension, if you, if you look at the original cost of the project and and and.

R

The time parameter extension it it's virtually uh very, very proportional with with those costs.

R

um It it does seem excessive, but but it is in line with the with the original cost of the project.

R

So the one we just just approved is for the actual construction of it. Yes, this one is for.

B

The management and inspection of why they're doing the construction correct and it is full-time work.

R

And yes, it is pricey and those are the fees that that we pay for for professional services. Sure.

R

And my my staff simply the man hours are not available for us to to perform these duties.

A

So, okay, now you're leaning to another discussion, your do you have the talent on your staff or.

A

Could you have the talent on your staff to do this type of work.

R

We have the talent, but the manpower is not. You have the talent, but not the manpower.

A

Requesting the 72 000 or whatever 75 000, to do the management inspection correct. Okay, because that.

A

Leads into uh further discussion down the road, um I can't how many did I apologize real, quick.

A

How many change orders have there been on this uh on this effort on this project? I think we're up to.

R

This will be for the contractor, we're up to like number, seven or eight, the the initial con, the the.

R

Initial change order was quite large. It was for the uv light component, which was, which was part.

R

Of the original bid, for many reasons, it was not part part of the original contract that was added.

R

On later, but beyond that, the the additional change awards have been very minor, yeah and and many of.

R

Them have have been improvements that staff have identified, during course, of construction, that that.

R

Will make a a long-term uh improvement and benefit to the operation of the plant right, so nothing out.

R

Of the ordinary has occurred. Okay, can we put a finger on any one area that we're deficient in to.

E

Cause this extension and change uh work, changing work orders. Is there one area, that's glaring.

R

The the major area commissioner weaver was was just how how old the old plant was, how run down.

R

The components were how how delicate they they were. As we tried to take certain parts offline.

R

And transition to the new new components it was. It was very, very difficult to.

R

To to keep the old plant operating to to to meet the mde uh uh mandated.

R

Requirements for the affluent discharge, um as I said earlier, uh plant staff has done a.

R

Incredible job of keeping that plant operating as well as it has. um It is amazing to me how.

R

How old and aged the old plant was? Are you referring to commissioner weaver or the plan.

E

Yes, by all means elder abuse. I apologize no, I was just asking I wasn't I I lost it. No.

A

I had plenty of respect for her. We all do. I would never speak to him absolutely not.

D

Back on a more serious note has the contractor in any way mentioned an escalation in their costs or.

D

Their materials and stuff is that affecting them increasing their costs and coming back to us in.

D

Any way, no, we we pre-ordered uh many most of the large components were pre-ordered well before they.

R

Could go very smart because I know in my industry we're seeing a lot of escalation. We're seeing an.

D

Over 100 jump in metals costs since this time last year, and I'm wondering how that's impacting us, I'm.

D

Concerned about, as you know, next year, unfolds how many potential change orders we could see.

D

Coming in from vendors that didn't pre-purchase, so the fact it was pre-purchased was a wise move.

D

Very good question: yeah, the the these change orders are basically for.

R

An extension of the time itself and not and not work per se thanks for clarifying.

A

Okay, I'll move, the board of commissioners approve a change order to george miles and burr llc in.

A

The amount of 80 587.50 for the extension of construction management and inspection.

A

Services related to the 75-day extension of time to complete construction of the hampstead.

A

Wastewater treatment, plant enr upgrade project. Second, I got a motion I got a second. Is there.

A

Any further discussion- this has been very good discussion, really appreciated uh all in favor aye.

H

Aye 500. Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen. I'm looking forward to a tour with commissioner weiner. Let's.

A

Talk about the removal and replacement of existing mill loom who's going to talk to us about that.

A

Okay, we're going to talk about the mill fleet, okay, and we have the champion of.

D

The best beard contest for the county. Thank you. Okay,.

A

Please the office of procurement in cooperation with the bureau of building construction requests.

Q

Your approval to award the contract for the replacement of the shriver grist mill.

Q

Flume at union mills homestead to be has that mill rights, inc and the amount of 144 thousand dollars.

Q

The work is partially grant funded in the amount of ninety six thousand dollars through.

Q

The maryland historic trust, historic preservation, capital grant the additional forty eight thousand.

Q

Will be county funded through the fluent water wheel, replacement budget with a ten percent.

Q

Contingency, this amount is adopted in the adopted budget. No other additional funds will be necessary.

Q

We, the office of procurement, did receive four proposals, for this project be has.

Q

Its proposal was selected based on the overall evaluations performed by the evaluation committee.

G

That's interesting: we actually got four. We did get four yeah, that's interesting. I didn't think there.

G

Was that many folks out there who had to do that anymore? Because, honestly, I don't think there's too.

G

Many of these working grist mills right anyway right correct, were they coming out of maryland.

Q

um Be hesitant is located in kentucky um lewis contractors was, is owings mills wickersham.

Q

Construction, lancaster, pa and total restoration was in hampstead, okay wow. How often does this have.

B

To get replaced when's the last time we did. We did this about every 20 years, okay, so this is just the.

G

This this just it's not the the whole wheel, isn't it no. This is just the gut is actually.

S

The trough that this oh okay and that's, why wood gates on both sides? Okay, because I thought we if.

G

It hasn't been that long ago that we did the wheel right. It's that wheels fairly. It's been.

S

A while the wheels uh starting to get in rough shape, I mean we may we're patching it right now.

A

Is the flume going to uh look like it fits to the hole you know? Yes, it's going to be like.

S

Pretty much the same thing: that's there yeah! Okay! Actually, this contractor has their own.

S

Sawmill so they acquire the lumber, they do all the sawing. Oh wow, so it'll be the same.

S

This is just wooden stone, correct, correct! Yes, so you didn't paint once you put it on yeah.

D

Wow, so maintain that rustic historical. Yes, it's a timber construction, basically of course, but.

E

You can take a slide down and hit the wheel.

E

That'll, stop you, okay, any other. How much the question! What's the timeline on this one.

S

As soon as we give him notice, they'll saw the wood it'll dry, the wood and.

S

Probably around january would be the okay, the timeline for completion and the other.

G

One still it's functioning, but it's like a piece of swiss cheese right now. It leaks a lot of places.

G

And- and I know eric that you're you're wanting to ride the flume- yes, it's not one of those flames.

G

D

It could be interesting yeah. Maybe, commissioner, lance will shove me into it.

D

Well, this is your baby in your district and yeah, I thought of it.

G

And that's why I'm excited to see that there are at least four.

G

People that bid on it, because there's a lot of that that you know they're starting to go by the.

I

Wayside specialized and there's the floor, that's the wheel for the wheel! That was great timing.

A

Don't credit mr swam, that much well? Okay, all right! I'm going to make the motion that we award.

G

The contract for the removal and replacement of the mill flume to be hasset mill rights.

G

In the amount of 144 thousand seconds okay, I have a motion of a second any further discussion.

A

Good discussion appreciate it all in favor. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Thank you, commissioners.

G

Thank you appreciate your time. Let's talk about the courthouse, annex cooling, tower replacement.

T

Good morning, commissioners, morning, good morning, we are here to get your approval.

T

And recommendation on supplying and installation of a new cooling tower for the courthouse annex.

T

To johnson controls in the amount of 110 300 johnson controls wasn't was awarded a.

T

Competitively solicited contract from source, well, a cooperative procurement organization. This is.

T

Within the project budget, no other funds should be needed and I'll turn the project questions over to.

T

Justin good morning, commissioners, we're here today for a decision to award johnson controls.

U

The replacement of the cooling tower at the courthouse annex the purpose of the cooling tower.

U

Is to get the process heated water, created by hvec equipment out to a cooling tower.

U

With that process it meets the the atmosphere of the air which will cool the water down to a.

U

Constant temperature, it will send it back into the building and send it out to all of the hvac.

U

Equipment at a average temperature of 70 to 80 degrees, and at that point it can produce cooling.

U

Or heating, depending on what time of year it is. This is the first step in the cooling process.

U

Like I say, the average life expectancy of these towers are 20 to 25 years. uh This one's coming.

U

In at roughly 19 to 20 years old, at this point, um johnson controls currently holds the maintenance.

U

Contract on the five towers we have throughout carroll county, these towers are maintained by.

U

Johnson are under the energy management contract, so they come out every year, service them.

U

Do an inspection report and report back to facilities what uh what it needs to be done.

U

What questions do you have on this project? Is this related to the tour you gave me.

D

When you took me up on the ceiling, is that there's a different project.

U

That was a different project that was replacing some air handlers up in the penthouse. um Now this.

U

Is the I want to say the the heartbeat of the building? This would actually cools the building.

U

This is the chiller they'll need a crane to remove absolutely yep. It's going to be weekend, work we're.

U

Going to have a crane on site, doing the lift and taking it off I'd be interested in seeing that and.

D

Getting some photos so we can show the public the magnitude of this project. Sure and you can see the.

U

The project that you went on tour with at the annex and the penthouse as well at the same.

U

Time the finish: don't push me off the top of the building. I won't do that all right.

D

With that, I moved at the board of commissioners awarded this project that johnson controls.

D

Inc in the amount of 110 300 for the purchase and installation of new cooling tower at the.

D

Courthouse index. Second, okay: I got a motion. I got a couple of seconds. Is there any.

A

Further discussion, nope appreciate it all in favor, aye aye, all right, okay, thank you. So much.

A

Okay, let's move on to the airport and approval of agreement with delta airport consultants for.

A

Professional services regarding the acquisition of property for airport safety, expansion.

H

Gentlemen, good morning, good morning, good morning morning, commissioners, you look confused what was.

A

Up I thought I was going to sit to the right side. I thought I was grabbing the chair to the right of.

V

Me and then, all of a sudden he was missing kind of fulfilled. It be aware of your surroundings, always.

V

Always yeah with the back of the door, so it's like number one don't do, especially in work at an.

G

Airport right, yeah good point: we're seeking board approval for the department of public works to.

W

Sign delta task order number three, which retains delta airport consultants for land acquisition.

W

And easement services, as well as faa coordination related to parcels on the west side of the airport,.

W

The property and easements are necessary for the relocation of ready bridge road outside.

W

Of the runway object-free area and to keep the part 77 surfaces free of any obstructions when.

W

We put in the replacement runway, the faa is getting approval for the necessary acquisitions.

W

We are requesting board approval for task order. Number three in the amount.

W

Of fifty thousand dollars, the faa will cover 90 percent and the county will pay the remaining 10.

W

Or 5 000, which will be paid for out of the airport enterprise fund,.

A

Pretty straightforward, yep, pretty straightforward.

A

Okay, any uh questions or comments; no, but while you're here how about an update on the airport.

G

Safety expansion, where, where are we we're starting to see an uptick in some of these.

G

Things come before us now, which is good yes, sir. So where are we still we're we're middle property.

W

Acquisition currently like like this, what this is related to in the west side of the airport.

W

We're going in the final design for the uh for the relocation meadow branch road next year in.

W

The federal fiscal year, 2021 yep uh and uh we've got a grant underway for that and next phase is.

W

We're going to do further phase four and phase five, and that position, which is property that.

W

We're going to need for the actual relocation of the runway and the operation of the runway.

W

So that's the next phase right we just got. We just met with faa uh a week and a half ago um great.

V

Success great meeting, especially with the new uh director, that's in place for faa, that we work with.

V

Set up our capital project, our capital schedule for the next 10 years, for the for the.

V

uh Pro or for this project, because fa gives us about 5 million dollars a year, so we have to.

V

Work within that window, so each time we can do a portion of the design portion, design, construction.

V

But as we've worked through this too, between the consultant mark's assistants and his team, we've.

V

Actually been able to save about a million dollars in relocation of gas lines that was supposed to be.

V

On meadow branch road, we had a property owner that we had to kind of think outside the box on how to.

V

Acquire some of the land for a protection zone as we're thinking through that also.

V

With working alongside with the city, we came up with the news a way to work with the design.

V

So we still have fire ems services to provide to the residences to have multiple accesses without.

V

Having to reconstruct the entire roadway, which allows us now to not have to relocate the gas line,.

V

Which is feeding out the asphalt plant at this time, so that really this saves us a lot of money.

V

We're going to add about a foot to the elevation of the runway, um which really doesn't change for.

V

Much on the uh for the final product, so good, so I heard you use the word for.

G

10 years is that is that your estimate- because I mean is that, are we still.

G

10 11 12 13, whatever out now that we're in the queue and we're actually moving.

V

Forward and at an actual components of the project faa now within the region, if any.

V

Funds come available from any other airport, whether it's bwi or whether it's a small.

V

Airport in cumberland, as they're working to the projects, if they can't utilize their five million.

V

Dollar allocation that they have for you know, because of just whatever design or work. That's.

V

Going on that balance goes back into the into the kitty for anything in that region. Well, we're that.

V

Where we're number we've now moved to the number one where any free money comes up in the area.

V

We have first shot at it in the region. So that's what that's! What our new director of in faa is.

V

Working on for us both regionally and nationally, so we could get an influx. We could have a year if.

V

We have 10, 15 million dollars may come in, we don't know until they put out their capital projects and.

V

What the grants are submitted in by those other airports so that could speed up that process, but.

V

We have to, we have to phase our project out in 5 million increments, as we go through so.

V

While keeping the wrong way open so um does any of this have to go through the board of public works.

A

And getting the funds nope, this project's already been 100 percent fully.

V

Set and ready to go um approved from faa and maa for their portions. So we are, you know at.

V

This point we're just managing the job as we go through from year to year. Excellent.

A

You mentioned um federal, fy 2021, which means october. So what what funding are you expecting.

A

Between now and october, federal funding, our current grant for the faa is 260 000.

W

And that's for the final design, okay, we're expecting an offer from them in the fall.

V

Then we submit for the next round, which will be reimbursements of some of the properties, but also.

V

For construction of meadow branch, road, which will move into the design of the runway,.

V

And other land acquisitions well actual construction, get started.

W

Meadow branch, road uh federal fiscal 22- is when we're we're supposed to get our first.

W

Good dollop of federal money and we'll start that process the relocation of the road that next year.

W

That's the plan and while we're, while that construction is going on the design of the runway,.

V

Of the new safety aspects of that runway will be underway.

D

That's when commissioner frazier will start getting the phone calls.

G

About them years ago, yeah I was gonna say that ship sailed. I think but yeah you don't know, but.

R

Yeah, that's kind of why I was asking too, because there's still a faction of folks out there that.

V

Right and really, at the end of the day, we're we're just bringing the airport.

V

Nothing's going to change, as we talked about in previous years, nothing's changing air traffic.

V

Wise nothing's changing yet you know with the with the corporate jets that we have nothing's.

V

Changing in the size of the jets it just becomes a safer runway gives a longer distance to be.

V

Able to either take off or when they're landing, especially during um hot weather, like we've, had.

V

Recently or during heavy rain events, where they're able to they'll have extra runway in order for.

V

Further protection in the distance between the taxiway and the runway.

V

That regulation, that requirement has changed some years back and what we're doing is now.

V

Having that proper separation between the taxiway and the runway, that's now today's standards, yeah.

D

Thank you director, thanks for clarifying that, because there's a lot of misinformation out there.

D

With the public- and they have a misperception of what's taking place, they're, basically, what we're.

D

Doing increasing their safety, which is a positive for the people that live around that airport.

D

Right, that's the yes, commissioner, yes yeah and I've got a close personal friend who says if you.

G

Can land at westminster airport? You can pretty much land anywhere because it's one of the most.

G

Difficult to land on currently right because of of the of the the challenges out there, the wind.

G

Direction the way it that it sits, it's not long enough and you know so yeah clear view is probably.

G

A close second yeah. Well, that's flat here yeah, but it you know it's it's it's long, long, long overdue!.

G

So that's why I was curious about the timeline so right, where yeah right now mark is spending a.

V

Lot of time, sealing cracks and filling cracks and painting enough to to move this part to keep this.

V

Project to keep the current runway operational to the new one is constructed excellent.

B

All right I'll make the motion board commissioners to prove that staff signed the atlanta acquisition.

B

Services agreement with delta airport consultants, delta task order number three in the amount of.

B

Fifty thousand dollars to continue to work on land acquisition, services for the airport.

B

Safety expansion project I'll second- it because I love the fact that they have delta task order.

G

I mean it's like you know, I know it's like official right. I got a motion. I got a second.

A

Any other discussion questions seen here, none all in favor all right, okay, thank you. So much.

B

About the good work, thanks for watching mr myers plays the guitar. Yes, we talked good because.

G

We talked next time you put together a little county band, I'd like to see a minute yeah.

D

No, you probably don't proud. Thank you, commissioner. Absolutely.

I

Thank you. Doug want to come on up. Let's talk about 2021, gravel road chip, seal.

A

G

This is where we look at one another. We would roll our eyes. You didn't look at me, yet this is where I don't stand this up. This is where I just kind of sit back.

G

Across pleasant valley, road today, for the first time.

G

Did you and you're right kath? It's it's nice, it's nice! They did a great job yeah. I guess my.

G

Only question is how's that going to hold up when we start plowing. I hope it does yeah. Okay, I mean.

X

Right now, it's beautiful with the weather that we've had um you know it. It should and uh with.

X

Our vendor, if it doesn't, they take care of it in the end, but yeah we've had good success over.

X

The years so, yes, I did notice a place or two or three where a knucklehead apparently spun their.

G

Wheels yeah, they did. You guys been out there to see that yeah there's like two or three places.

C

Yes, yeah, okay, so some of them are kids. Some of them aren't you know yeah, I know well. I.

I

Lump them all together, knucklehead, it's a good turn. Sorry, I got off topic. Okay,.

X

All right I'll, let maureen go first. We are here to uh seek your approval to award a contract.

T

For the 2021 gravel road chip seal project to russell standard corporation in the amount of 891.

T

Five hundred and thirty eight dollars and seven cents, the county advertised for bids.

T

And received three responses: the bid amount is within the adopted budget and no additional funds.

T

Should be necessary and for the project itself, I will turn it over to yeah got the whole team.

Y

Here this morning, so we have uh kathy verts our administrative um supervisor out there who runs.

X

This and then jim cook, our bureau chief- and we are here this again culminates in almost now two.

X

Years of research, so we had our test pits out for about two years, remembering that our original goal.

X

Set by the board was to do something that allowed us to keep the characteristic of a gravel road.

X

And I think chris is showing some photos of that now, while lessening the amount of maintenance.

X

Reducing the amount of potholes and severe runoff that we would get from rain events and to do so in.

X

The most fiscally responsible way, so the test pits went out. We brought that before you all.

X

A couple of months ago, and it was decided that what we would do would be a double chip.

X

Seal surface treatment, so essentially it is um on the roads that I'm going to name here.

X

Adams mill road bomb gardener, road bomb, gardner road, south brown, road cross, road, school house, road.

X

Davis road, dr steigle road, gable, hammer road, green meadow lane, greenwood church road hoover mill, road.

X

Leicester, school house, road, moder, road old, fridanger mill, road, ralph dell, road.

X

Rocklin road, rupes mill, road, sam creek, road and wilt road total length of 19.6 miles will receive.

X

The double chip seal now again, that's a number seven number. Eight stone chip done in two layers.

X

And then we'll go back after that vacuum it and then put a fog seal on to seal it up now I will.

X

Tell you that, probably not as many as you but I've received phone calls from our customers.

X

And those customers typically didn't want anything done under their gravel roads, but I sent them out.

X

To our test areas- and you know I got an email back- which I will mention and very to the point.

X

She said that if we have to have something, I've looked at your test areas and that.

X

Looks pretty good so we'll we'll take that to get it back, and I took that as.

X

Thank you. So I realize, and you all know this, there are differences of opinion in the county. I.

X

Will say, though, that as a board, I thank you for for allowing us to bring consistency. Remember.

X

When we talked to you earlier, uh the cost savings, when this project is done in the maintenance in in.

X

Both man hours in things like calcium chloride and things like having a grader in every area.

X

Will be greatly reduced, and it will also allow us to bring consistency in how we treat things.

X

For example, a snowfall so where we have not been able in past years to apply salt to take care.

X

Of a gravel road, once the treatments are done on these gravel roads to harden the surface, we will.

X

Then be able to do that, treat those plow those and do everything else. So this double chip seal again.

X

Is intended to harden the surface by sealing cracks and helping the the water to stay on.

X

Top and roll off will not change anything else. We're not changing the drainage, widening the road.

X

Straightening out the curves not doing anything else of that nature, the characteristic of the.

X

Gravel road, if you've looked at any of our tour sites and again as chris, has brought up here to.

X

You showing you some overhead and other one. You will see that it remains the same when they put.

X

The fog seal down it will look a little darker for our customers, but that in time will go away just.

X

Like it does in every other road, and you will still have the consistency of that gravel road.

X

That you want for our customers that want asphalt. It's not asphalt, but trust me when I tell you if.

X

You've again driven over these roads, it is much more stable, it does reduce the dirt. It's almost.

X

Like we went and applied calcium chloride every other day, because the dust and dirt stay down.

X

So I think that that we found sort of the happy medium that over the next three years again as.

X

As our customers might not remember, but you all allotted budget funding for three fiscal years.

X

And have tasked us with about one-third of our roads each year finishing two years from now so.

X

That's where we're at that's the proposal that we bring before you again. I've got our team here.

X

For any questions you may have, and uh that's that's why we're here thanks commissioners.

E

I I just got a lot of phone calls putting this down in my area, people concerned about what.

E

You're doing and and doug I know I referred a lot of them to you. You handled them very well.

E

And I've responded to quite a few of myself and telling the same thing uh that you know we're.

E

Trying to preserve the roads and uh most people very, uh are all very respectful of getting back.

E

To them and letting you know why we were doing this on the roads and where it is now, if we get.

E

The stripes on it we're okay and I know that's another issue we're dealing with presently, but.

E

um Most people really uh have to explain the whole process have been great about it and uh steve. I.

E

Know you get a lot of calls on these two. Mr, can I tag on to your thing about striking, because.

E

It's very important you bring it up and for you, commissioners, and our and our audience, you will.

X

Notice that we haven't been as aggressive, even though you approved paint for us some months back.

X

Well, you may recall a little thing called a power outage in texas that occurred many months ago. That.

X

We would think wouldn't impact us, it's impacted the entire nation. There is no yellow traffic paint.

X

Anywhere to be had but we're working towards a solution and if everything goes as planned,.

X

Within the next two weeks, we have been able to engage with a larger contractor who got a supply.

X

And we hope to have them in and have at least our yellow lines done on all the roads.

X

uh That have no no line at all that we've been treated, so I want to let you all know that.

X

It's not that we're not trying kathy has we've been from everybody to durham to sherwin-williams.

X

No one has any paint that meets state of maryland specs, but we did find a contractor and we are.

X

Actively engaged as late as this morning and getting them rewarded here, so thank you for.

X

Bringing that up uh yeah, I know we've had a lot of calls and people concerned and uh which.

X

Is always when you pave the road, uh but most of it's gone very smoothly. So thanks, sir, thank you.

G

You're not gonna paint these are you no? No? No! No. These are, and thank you. That's a.

Y

Whole other, that's it right! This set of roads there will be no white or yellow.

X

It's a it's just a hardened surface. Yes, sir, let's be clear about that! That's it.

X

Appreciate you bringing that up, yeah yeah only hardened, nothing else done no, no widening.

X

Nothing else double shot of chip seal over top. What's there right and we're leaving yeah.

G

Yeah because that that goes a long way too, because you know some of the I've had folks.

G

Ask me: well: are we going to put lines down now? Are you going to no we're not right we're just putting.

G

A different surface on to keep your car cleaner and then they're, like oh okay, even as simple as.

G

Explanation, as that sometimes helps absolutely, uh and I continue to hear well, it's going to turn.

G

Into a speedway okay and that's when they said because you're going to paint lines, no, no we're.

G

Not right so I don't know how to I don't know how to answer that. Speedway thing I mean whatever.

G

So from a workers really good point of view, it's they don't they're, no slower than what they are.

C

Any other time yeah right, because once that road is once the gravel is kind of off and you've got.

C

The two tracks that they run on they're, going just as fast as if they would on a black yeah, exactly.

X

We all like to think that and all commissioners again, you know we'll just mention it out there, but.

X

All of us get complaints about speed. I don't care where you're at in the county, what road you're on.

X

I think it's only increased since the pandemic had begun and folks were out there on their own.

X

We know that you all know, and we know that we directly work with the sheriff's office.

X

On every complaint that we get, and we personally have a relationship with the gentleman who's in.

X

Charge of that he gives us all the data and yeah. We are all at a loss for how we.

X

Slow people down speed bumps, don't seem to do it. Stop signs, definitely don't do it and giving them.

X

A ticket does it for that long and then uh they're right back at it yeah. uh I would assume you'll do.

G

The same thing that you do with everything else, the folks that live on these particular roads are.

G

All going to get uh something from us, yeah the letter's been drafted. We are in the process of.

Z

Having to review it and approve it, and it will be mailed out immediately once it's approved.

G

And then timeline here, what are we talking about? You know when, when these folks sure, when russell.

G

Moves in here, uh what what are we talking about here so again, we typically for this type of work.

Y

Kathy correct me, if our own, but we're about 20 25 days, depending on how they're we gave them 55 days.

Z

Expecting it to be done mid-september, um so I haven't actually spoken to russell yet to know.

Z

When they would get us on the schedule, I'm assuming mid-july, maybe to the end of july. So then.

Z

They'll be working august and then mid-september it's got to be warm. We have found with.

Z

Chip seal last year didn't do as well as it has this year, and I think it's because.

Z

It was so cool last year when they got here and the pandemic had pushed everything back.

Z

This year the chip seal has laying beautifully, and we really feel that it should go down.

Z

Quickly, you know mid-july into august, so it adheres really well so once everything gets.

Z

Approved today, we'll be in touch with the russell standard and get get on their schedule and get.

Z

Their timeline and you'll have our folks out there with russell personnel, uh because that's important.

G

Too, when I was after the appreciation dinner I I was talking to a couple of the guys that were out.

G

In in similar uh areas, and they kind of run the the interference, if you will so.

C

That the folks that are the subs don't get uh inundated with a lot of inquiries, because.

G

They they need to know too, and I hope you pass that on to the folks that rustled it.

G

Yes, this could get a little interesting. Yes right, right, yeah and we we uh we absolutely commissioner.

X

And all the commissioners commissioner weaver brought me one yesterday. Our inspectors are key.

X

And we had an issue yesterday, where our contractor wasn't doing what exactly what they should be.

X

Doing right, our inspector was spot on it corrected it uh gave them a quick stop. Had them reset.

X

Everything they were doing got their traffic management plan where it needed to be and started.

X

Them up again so yeah good point: they are critical, we'll have our team out and we have told them.

X

We did that with maureen in the pre-bid meetings that you can expect to see. 50.

X

Of folks that love it and 50 of those that don't and your job is to do your job. And if there's any.

X

Issue, you don't engage in that you, county staff will handle and then we'll talk to our customers.

X

As needed, okay, excellent, well, director brown- I think you guys have the a team. I know as county.

D

Commissioners, this is a department we get a lot of constituent calls on. You guys deal with a lot.

D

Of headaches, you know well for us and I believe the first time I met mrs burks was at on bethel.

D

Road when you're doing a test site, I was very much impressed with that and the first thing I noticed.

D

And heard from people was, they immediately noticed? It was less loose, gravel and less dust and they.

D

Were very happy with the appearance and the appeal of the road still being a gravel road, and you know.

D

Mr brown you're well aware of constituent call meeting about this issue, so many people are.

D

Concerned about speeding, I know, commissioner, lance has a lot of these phone calls as well.

D

And I want to clarify that people out there that these are still technically.

D

Bylaw, gravel roads is that correct yeah that is absolutely and as such, they will.

D

School buses by law will not be able to run down these roads. Is that correct as well.

D

So, according to komar, that is the way it is written now. Obviously, I can't speak for ccps.

X

But you're absolutely right. That's the way the uh the komar's written and I've deferred to the.

X

County attorney over to my right for anything else, but yes, it does specifically say gravel.

E

Was that true in this school bus in years, so.

G

He walked to school, didn't he I don't yeah. Well, that's that's interesting topic. Yeah. I just.

D

Because I think people aren't a misconception, I think, because when you hear chip seal we put.

D

Chip seal on asphalt rose to preserve them. Yes, and I think, there's a natural inclination in the.

D

Past they seem that done and they think when we do the chips, the only gravel roads, it's gonna, be an.

D

Asphalt road like the chip, seal repairs and it's not yep you're, absolutely two different processes.

X

One is done for rehabilitation, that's when you put chip seal onto an asphalt road.

X

And that is in our rehab process. This is purely as we've listed it surface hardening. We.

X

Are laying this down to harden the surface of an existing gravel road? We are not it's not blacktop.

X

It was never meant to be, and- uh and it's not it's just ground, so people still have that rumbling.

D

Feel they will have their own yeah. That's a little rough which affects speed as well. When you have.

D

That rumble you drive slower, but it's not that much different and just from a maintenance part.

C

Come winter time those gravel roads become a sheet of ice. This process will eliminate a lot of that.

C

Unsafe conditions so there's a safety factor. There is a loose ground. I know from riding a motorcycle.

D

Those roads are extremely dangerous to be on with loose ground. Yes, plus, probably children on and.

D

Pedal bikes as well. I know I crashed a few times as a kid yep. Do you change the blades? You go into.

E

Rubber blades or anything we have, we have tried uh two different types and we're still in the process.

C

Of evaluating I mean as we're putting more of these down, let's preserve the road, then we're.

X

The rubber has required the only thing that we've noticed in the rubber. Yes, it does reduce vibration.

X

To the driver, but we've noticed a lot of reset, meaning that the driver has to physically stop.

X

Often, to get out and realign and reset the blade, because, because of it, reducing the vibration right.

X

It bumps and then comes out of line and all of a sudden they're, not plowing a level level.

X

Great pros and cons to all of them, but we always evaluate the stuff, see what we're getting into.

D

Well, I think the photos you had about the room with the before and after were very telling to.

D

Let people know that it's pretty much the same road and initially it'll be darker yep and it'll.

D

Fade just like when you pave your driveway, your home, it's real blackish and then turns into a.

D

Gray and the same thing will happen correct now, with that I moved that to board of commissioners.

D

Award to contract for the 2021, gravel road chip seal project to russell standard corporation.

D

In the amount of 891 538 dollars and seven cents, a second okay got a motion got a second.

A

Any further discussion comments again. Good discussion appreciate the details.

G

I think this is excellent when I took this office in december of 2014. This is one of the things.

G

That I wanted to see done so kudos to all of you. I won't be here when it's finished, but I'm extremely.

G

Excited about this, and I think it's great thank you one last thing: how what is the longevity of.

D

This road treatment is it four years, five years we potentially have to come back and re or the.

D

County revisit this out in the future, and how long would that be well, so I think once we get down at.

X

The end of the three year cycle, and certainly these no, I would say we potentially have longer.

X

Than that many moons ago, they did this to right at least now. Venice road, mount venice was done.

X

Long before our terms and it's lasted relatively well, so we would say typically when we do this.

X

Application on an asphalt road we get five to seven years, so I would at least estimate.

X

That we would get that long and then we'll obviously evaluate this process as we go through.

X

So this is a very good cost, effective treatment. Yes, we think so we believe it is yeah good.

C

Yeah, okay, got a motion. I had a second any further discussion: all in favor, aye, aye, aye, okay, 500 again.

A

Thank you so much. Thank you. That's great a lot of work into this over all these years. Thank you.

D

Thank you guys. Okay, let's talk about the north carolina high school building, transfer funds.

A

And we should have okay, jeff and ted come up.

A

Another excitement moving forward all right morning again, commissioners, um so the county.

V

Entered into a purchase agreement with the former north carol high school building to be sold on.

V

June 30th 2021. uh However, the settlement date is now anticipated for the middle of august, resulting.

V

In additional building maintenance costs not included in the fy 22 budget department of public.

V

Works requests; funds from the reserve contingency to be transferred to the bureau of facilities in.

V

Order to provide unbut the unbudgeted uh building, maintenance costs for july and august of 2021.

V

An amount of forty thousand dollars per month so we're looking for an 80 000 transfer.

G

So this will cover july and august right, yes, but we're only going to 11 august.

V

That's the anticipated date. We are just anticipating the full month of august. We're.

V

Not sure you know closing has delayed now until middle of august. uh We want to you know from june.

V

We want to just be sure we have the month covered, uh because the building cycles also.

V

Make over middle of june the middle of july to middle of august, depending on you know whether.

V

It's water, sewer or electricity, so we just want to be sure that we have that fully captured. Okay.

V

And that's providing forty fifty thousand dollars for utilities.

V

Ten thousand dollars for mowing and twenty thousand contingencies uh because we've been.

V

Out we average over the last year about ten thousand dollars per month in repairs.

V

uh We had a you know: we had a storm come through, we had to do roof, emergency, roof, repairs, um ac.

V

Units are constantly needing some type of repairs. We've had a boiler, some boiler repairs have had.

V

Been done, you know we're done in the building um about a year or so ago we had the pipe burst.

V

Or one of the drain pump drain pipes from the roof leak we had to go in. There do repair work to it. So.

V

We just need to have some money aside ready to go for that, so this amount may or may not be.

E

Needed in total, we're probably still looking we're, definitely going to be looking at about.

V

60 000 of that money would is going to be needed to pay for utilities and mowing to continue.

V

Mowing operations and I think, we're on target for august 11th, where I understand the present time so.

M

You know and if money isn't spent, this will end up at the end of the year. In your.

M

Unassigned fund balance yep. Now I'm going to move the board of commissioners approve.

E

Resolution number 0-22 the budget transfer of 80 thousand dollars in reserve for.

E

Contingencies: department of public works bureau of facilities for operation maintenance expenses.

E

At the former north carol high school building for the months of july and august 20 21. second.

A

I got a motion, I got a second. This is the first time we're actively moving.

A

Any reserve funds correct with fy22. Yes right, I mean, I know it's only been eight days but.

M

This is pretty unusual that we would be going to it this early in the year, but just.

M

The circumstances jeff's described to you, okay, got a motion got a second any further discussions.

A

Seen hearing none all in paper: okay, 500.! Thank you very much. Okay, thanks jeff. Let's talk about.

A

Ted the request, approval of town county agreements that new windsor manchester and union bridge. Yes,.

M

And for people who might be watching just a brief reminder of what we're doing here, the county has.

M

A long-standing revenue sharing program with the eight municipalities in carroll, county.

M

Each year as part of renewing the town county agreements, we will be sending them a check.

M

As part of that program, I'll be coming to you several times, we have three of.

M

The eight today, the rest will come as they get signed by the municipalities.

M

So, as you said, we have uh new windsor, manchester and union bridge today.

M

The amounts of these checks are the revenue sharing program.

M

Minus costs that the towns are responsible for in connection with our npds water.

M

Storm water, thank you uh programs, so we we take the revenue rather than bill them.

M

Separately for these other things, we just net this out and then send them the check.

M

So uh this year manchester will be getting a little over 224 thousand.

M

New winds are about 53, 000 and union bridge about 66 thousand.

M

So I just need your approval for these agreements. I'm trying to follow.

A

In here and the first one says new windsor and it says seventy five thousand.

A

Four hundred forty four dollars is that not correct am I reading something wrong.

M

uh What what are you looking at? What's in my book yeah, the briefing says 75 444 for new windsor.

M

Okay, that that it would be the amount of the revenue sharing, but then remember, I said.

M

We're netting out the cost that they will pick up for.

M

um Nps and and storm water, which leaves them with the 53 087 that I talked about.

I

So so, if we were, if we were going to give them the revenue.

M

Right and then bill them for the other things. The 75 000 number is what you would be seeing.

M

But we're not right, we we net it all out, so we just have one transaction, okay and then.

A

Manchester the total was 285 670, yes and union bridge 82, 270 right. Okay, I just want.

A

To make sure we're tracking the same okay, you want to take these things separately or.

G

Is it I, I think you should, I think we should take them separate out? Okay, um well, so new.

A

Windsor first yeah I'll, be sorry. If I'll make a motion, though thank you. I moved to the board of.

D

Commissioners approved fy, 22, town and country county agreement with the town of new windsor.

E

Second, okay: I got a motion. Second, all in favor, all right: okay, since manchester un.

G

Make the motion we approve the town county agreement with the town of manchester for fy 22.

A

All second okay got motion got a second all in favor, aye, aye 5-0 union bridge. I moved at.

D

The board of commissioners approved the fy 22 town and county agreement with the town of union bridge.

D

Okay, I got a motion. I got a second all in favor all right, okay- and I should have said this earlier.

M

But on the resolution and on these agreements you have the copies to to be signed. We do correct.

M

Thank you. Thank you very much and uh we'll be hitting the other municipalities, as as they.

M

Get as they come in soon as soon as they do it, we'll schedule them yep. Okay, um let's see, I think.

A

We are in well. Is there any public comment? Chris, do you have anybody on the line nope? We have.

A

No one online right now: okay, no public comment uh open admin. um I need uh approval of the 624.

A

Land acquisition.

B

I'll make a motion to approve the minutes from 624 for uh from the closed session. For.

B

Atlanta acquisition, second, okay: I got a motion. I got a second all in favor all right, hi, okay,.

G

I'm abstaining because I wasn't there there so it's four zero one so just to be clear. Yep.

B

Actually so I have to sing for that as well. I made the motion, but I was not there.

A

Okay, hold on now that you mentioned that you said that yeah, we you and I.

G

Have to withdraw my motion: yep nope, we'll back out of it yep. I will make the motion.

D

Except the six twenty four minutes really next. Second: okay, any further discussion, nothing all.

A

In favor aye against hearing none abstaining. Yes, I'm saying: okay, there you go three zero, two okay.

A

um Thank you, yeah. Thank you, uh yeah cause. I looked at him like wait. A minute he's run rude.

A

Open admin, a couple things uh one as I shared I'm prior to carol the vaccination discussion.

A

Happening at the state we're getting public health comments from secretary schroeder.

A

And from the governor that, I believe need to be addressed, or at least need to be recognized.

A

You know from the county and county leadership that, yes, we recognize. These are statements coming.

A

From the state um and again they're not mandates, they are recommendations and, like other times I.

A

Believe we should continue with the recommendation of going with the state. You know highly recommend.

A

You know highly encourage vaccinations, um but there's no position to mandate. I just want to put.

A

That on the table, unless somebody has you know something else, but I do want to address it so.

A

um Follow along as usual, yeah, okay, okay! um Was there something you want to bring up? May I add.

J

Something on the vaccine, just blue, just I think, what's really important and a lot of people miss.

J

With regard to the vaccination is the efficacy of with all the variants as well right.

J

Although not all of them, especially the pfizer and moderna, haven't been tested against the variants.

J

Later vaccines that are coming out have been and they're very effective against the variants which.

J

um And, and by relation the first two, we believe our medical science believes is too so it really.

J

Protects you, um you know much more so than just on the original right virus, so I think people should.

J

Be considering that as well, you know maybe uh getting you know, mr singer, back on the agenda.

A

Walk through it doesn't have to be weekly, but uh you know there is more attention because of this.

A

Delta variant, I think that's most recent and um I also again reading in the news or listening uh got.

A

Hit really really hard and the olympics are coming up. So all these national teams are going through.

A

A lot of challenging times um to get over to tokyo, and I heard that I heard that that they're.

J

Japan's having an outbreak with the most recent variant and they're, um considering um extreme.

J

Emergency member measures with regard to the olympics, which may mean no spectators.

A

Yeah, this could be pretty intense, so well. I think we can bottom line this. Does anybody.

G

Want to go through what we went through the last 15 months? No, so why not just get the damn vaccine.

G

Please I mean come on ever there's the bottom line right there. Thank you I I cuz. I don't want to do.

A

It again I just I don't want to get through. I don't want to go through all this again.

G

No, I and apparently the vaccine medically speaking and I didn't go to medical school.

G

Is working so just get the vaccine, or else we're going to be back in that is mess again period.

G

Yep joe okay, there's there's my layman's terms. Whatever area succinctly put. Thank you. The.

A

Mako is coming up uh in august mid-august, uh as I shared also. This is good for open admin that.

A

We are starting to get meetings scheduled with the administration um if we have individual meetings.

A

With administration, just for all of us to kind of come together uh to knock out, you know a few.

A

Things at once, I know I'm meeting with dgs and um we're all meeting with mdot. I know that so, but.

A

There'll be more on that, but anyway yeah that and by the way the the conference at mako is going to.

G

Be as usual, what you were accustomed to pre-covet, with the exception of taste of maryland, they're.

G

Not able to do that, but everything else is going to be pretty normal. As a matter of fact, we had.

G

An update at the retreat and they've got and they're inundated with vendors that want to.

G

Come in I mean they're and they're they're, making sure everybody does the right thing.

G

Keeps the count where it should be, but it's going to be.

G

Pretty much a normal conference, as you know it so and they're hoping to get taste of maryland.

G

Back next year in a different manner, in other words, all of us have been there, not all that.

G

Push into that tiny room, yeah uh they're gonna, try to do it differently, uh so, but but it should.

G

Be a great conference as always and listen networking is 95 of that which is really.

G

Important there's so much value um with the again with the administration, with our with our peers.

A

um Getting things done to helping taking care of municipalities and our county and uh yeah? I.

A

Cannot, you know should be good yeah, it should be so we should all encourage uh the opportunities.

A

And uh really take advantage of it, um it's not a vacation. You know it happens to be an ocean city.

A

Yeah, but it's not a vacation, it's it's! It's. What we're supposed to be doing so? um Okay,.

A

Yeah, dick you had some money. I need some direction from the board of commissioners.

E

uh I was uh notified by the town of hampstead. uh You know they were doing a large development.

E

Project on the books uh out houseville road and they it's gonna, be a lot of traffic. I mean there's.

E

250 homes or whatever not development, would be dumped onto a small two-lane highway.

E

uh County road, they want to put a back road in that goes into the lower circle off of the bypass.

E

There's a section of gran land there three three quarters a mile mile of the county ground.

E

County land owned county owned land developers putting a road in through the town uh annexed.

E

Areas over in a bridge, I believe, uh through the bog turtles and everything else in that area,.

E

We have, I think uh you know we have it's a gravel road which that falls under our.

E

Areas of putting uh money into putting that slurry that we just talked about into this road.

E

That amount is about forty five thousand dollars to.

E

Put that double coat uh slurry into that road. I got a call from the mayor requesting that we go.

E

To 250 000 to help the cost of this and and before he goes to the developer uh on this ground. So.

E

It is the you know: it's in baltimore county jumps out right at baltimore county line almost uh for.

E

The back part of this you're, looking at probably 500 additional cars a day into this area. That is.

E

Going to be two two ways out in the hampstead next to elon's, funeral home or saint paul road.

E

Okay, they gotta go one way or the other wait: what okay and the other or the back area if they get.

E

That road, and even if we hard surface it it'll, be, I think, available, but it just won't be the level.

E

Of road that is going to take that kind of traffic for long, so they asked that we, you know, look at.

E

Increasing the value of that, so I wanted to bring that up to the board here and get your opinions.

G

So just a question dick probably ought to get up here.

G

Isn't that typically the responsibility of the developer? I would think I mean that that's the.

I

First, that's the first thing that comes into my mind is that would be their responsibility.

G

To to do the the improvements to to the egress and and whatever I'm congratulations,.

A

Yeah economic development person- it is, I mean it's partnership between you, know the municipality and.

A

Developer um and the municipal hampstead's asking for our support because it is a county road.

A

um But yeah it's: if the road can't handle the community, then it isn't it's. You know on the.

A

Developer to you know, fix the uh infrastructure. um It's. How much does the town want to push on.

A

The developer to get this done and we're throwing out, you know 45 000, to be a part of a solution.

A

Of a problem, but the problem is, the solution is all three working together right and.

A

I I don't know what the 250 would provide where the developer then wouldn't have to do. I I.

A

Don't know the cost it's about a million dollar project total. Is that what it is.

G

Roughly, maybe a little more right because to make it adequate, aren't they going to have to get the.

G

Easements and make it a a standard road with with with drainage and markings and everything else,.

G

Just to have us put a seal on a on a road just to make it hard a hardened surface instead of.

G

Safety is going to do really nothing to assist with traffic control over there.

G

Or volume it seems to me, you'd have to do the whole thing. There's not a lot of landowners on.

E

This, I think, there's three houses on the whole road and it's and it's industrial.

A

On both sides that are counting, so it is county property and it is a county road. The state gates.

J

Yeah it used to be a state road and then when they did the bypass um they they, you know a.

J

Little like when we get schools, we don't want them, but we're the stuckey. So yes, um but it, but.

J

We don't own the land, we don't own the land. The cap. I thought it was industrial property.

J

We have an easement for the road, but that's it we don't know, but we already have that.

E

Right, the easement, the uh for the road we should so which, which leads to my point.

G

Just making that hardened is going to do really nothing to assist with the volume that they're.

G

Talking about no to to assist with the volume you're going to have to make that a viable.

G

uh uh Two-Way traffic, road right with with easements and drainage and.

G

There's a lot of engineering that yeah with stormwater management or whatever I'm sure.

G

Which, I think again how many units are being sponsored in this development.

I

250., you know with that volume the developer could incorporate into the cost of goods sold.

G

I just think it's the the challenge is that again, we've used the term pandora's box once.

A

We open this one in a municipality there may be another municipality with the development.

A

That has an intersection in a road that we're going to have to make these decisions. I'd like.

A

To throw some funding towards them, uh because I do believe it's a partnership with hampstead.

A

The the challenge is the amount of funding you want to throw towards them and right now.

A

We came up with 45 000. I don't remember how we came up with that number. That's the amount that.

J

um Department of public works estimated would um be needed in order to do the double chip seal. Okay,.

G

Just to harden the surface yeah right, which battery plan to do yes, that's why we it's.

J

In your budget plan, which makes sense okay, so it's already in in the budget to do that road.

G

The forty five thousand forty five thousand the board board had the whole list of all.

J

The all the roads, dos garland's, one of them, and um so to to double chip seal the road.

J

um It's estimated that it'll be about 45 000., so we have the board voted.

J

Basically, a month ago, maybe three weeks ago, to provide that 45 000 to the project.

J

um And so now the town, I guess, has come back and asked for additional funding above the 45.

J

000, okay, so the county's already provided we're going to harden the surface anyway right well,.

J

Only if only if this doesn't all go through right at the moment, we're not, but no matter what we're.

B

Probably going to harden the surface yeah yeah yeah. If nothing happens, we're going to harden.

B

That surface, but they develop that, then they would what we said is they could use our 45 000.

B

To develop that, that's what they can use correct, but if they're going to go ahead and improve the.

E

Road beyond that that could go beyond toward that improvement. That's correct, but the additional.

B

Money is either on the town and or the developer or both and the town is asking for. Instead.

A

Of forty five thousand two hundred and fifty thousand okay, now I understand so it's a no for me.

D

A contract hasn't been already awarded for that hardin. Has it.

D

Okay, that's what make sure we get a violation of the contract? No, no. I mean I would be open for more.

G

Discussion if somebody gets a jam over there, but I I think that should be on the developer.

G

I truly think that just think of the profit that that developer is going to make.

G

I mean come on and, as commissioner weaver said, it's a 250 unit development times times, yeah.

D

They can divide that into the total cost and incorporate that cost of goods yeah, and I and your.

G

Your your mindset is spot on. I think, if we do this one, then there's seven other municipalities that.

G

Are going to be lined up going, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute wait. We just did that over there.

G

So I just think I can't I I can't do it. I I mean I'm only one, but I'm not okay. I.

D

Don't blame them for asking? No, I mean no, yes, always ask yeah always ask, but I just can't.

G

I mean it's as tight as, but we just went through a budget and had difficulty finding.

G

10 cents to do a couple things I mean come on so consensus of the board here that.

E

Yeah, I think they had the 45 000. I think that's our contribution, yeah, okay, I think have the.

A

Conversation with the mayor and go from there. Okay, thank you anything else for open admin.

A

Let's get into agendas, ms vivian come on down you're the next contestant.

D

You got big shoes to fill there. Yes, I do. Oh, I think she can handle those shoes july.

A

12Th monday, we have a transit advisory council with commissioner frazier, nothing on tuesday.

A

On wednesday, mako mako initiative subcommittee uh will be virtual with commissioner lance and then.

A

Commissioner, lance and frazier will be attending um at 11. another or not. Excuse me uh interim.

A

Legislative committee yeah- that's the okay, that's the early start to that's the early start, good.

A

Deal are we now you're still working? I apologize roberta on getting the delegation joint meeting.

J

Okay, we don't have a date for that meeting. Yeah mike mike fowler's working five o'clock. I believe.

E

Is a board of education meeting on wednesday, wednesday? Okay, we can confirm 5 p.m. On wednesday.

A

But as this subcommittee and excuse me, the legislative committee, I want to make sure the.

A

Legislation knows that we want to get engaged with them. As this moves forward. That's yeah, correct.

A

Thursday, we have closed admin. We have our open session, starting at nine.

A

Talk about purchase of land adjacent to the northern landfill.

A

It's exciting 2020 planning annual report, ms eisenberg, the freedom, sanitary sewer survey.

A

Ms eisenberg and mr burke will talk about resolution declaring the county's official intent.

A

To reimburse expenditures with debt proceeds well we're also going to talk to triple a or excuse.

A

Me, the bond rating, meaning that's going to be coming up sometime. This fall. Okay, I just saw rob.

A

Burke: okay, yeah renewal of uh northeast maryland waste disposal, authority membership, mr castleway.

A

And then uh contract award stone, manor pump station.

A

Again I'll be utilities at 5 pm very exciting. The investiture of at that time judge brian d, leonardo.

A

um I'll be at that as well I'll, be yep. So right now it's commercial you'll, be there.

D

Again I'll attend as well: yeah man, my name. Okay, all five of us. Five of us will attend uh very.

A

Proud for uh mr dillinger or judge d, leonardo friday, 9 a.m, baltimore metropolitan council.

A

Commissioner, wants will be attending nothing on saturday, looking forward to commissioner.

A

Frazier's podcast on the 18th on the 19th. We have nothing on the 20th. We have a planning.

A

Commissioner, commissioner, lance will be attending and the veterans advisory council. Currently it's.

A

Commissioner weaver and I will be attending. I just got some more things. I won't be okay,.

A

So it'll just be I that will be attending on wednesday. We have nothing scheduled on thursday.

A

Closed admin, open admin at uh 9 a.m, and currently we have no items at this time and that's not a bad.

A

Thing right now at 2pm uh we have the laura and dave o'callaghan calhoun, oh callahan,.

A

O'callaghan no g, o callahan community garden celebration at the library commissioners, weaver.

A

Boucher and frasier will be attending. Oh it's at the finksburg library, the ranch.

A

There'll be an open house ribbon, cutting at the gage digital media and maryland I.t solutions in.

A

Westminster where commissioner fraser will be attending, we have nothing scheduled on friday.

A

Saturday and commissioner boucher has the podcast on sunday, is there anything else that I'm missing.

A

And we will talk about uh the open session on the 22nd. If we have items or not, we'll make a.

A

A command decision, whether we're going to have an open session on the 22nd. You know at some.

A

Time but right now there's nothing and you know which way I'm going on that one. Just let me know.

A

So, can I make a motion now or you want to wait, just wait, I mean I'll. Do it now.

A

I think it's one of those things I've uh I've commanded for many years and I feel like I can.

A

Make the commanders in, but you know, um okay, I need a motion to go into closed at this time for land.

A

Acquisition and move we go into close, we'll lay it back position. Second, okay motion. Second, going.

A

To close for land acquisition, all in favor, aye aye, then after closed land acquisition, I need a recess.

A

To then go into open at one set okay motion to recess to one o'clock. Sorry, I got a motion a.

A

Second, to recess to one o'clock all in favor, aye: okay, we back in here at one here: okay,.

G