Carroll County, MD Board of County Commissioners Open Sessions, 22 Jun 2023

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Okay good morning it is thursday june 22nd, commissioner ed rothstein. We have.

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Pretty full open session for this morning.

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But as we always do, let's take a moment and rise for.

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The pledge of allegiance in a moment of silence.

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One nation, under god.

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So why don't we start with uh commissioner vigliotti? What's going on up in district one.

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Or, what's on your mind? Well, thank you very much, commissioner. I uh I was a lot more. uh I spoke.

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A lot more at length last week and I'll save some of my remarks for this coming week, given.

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The length of our schedule today, but I'll very briefly, note that a number of us are present at.

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The maryland municipal league chapter dinner last week, which was a combined meeting between carroll.

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County and frederick county municipalities, we had some of our state delegates there. One of.

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Our state senators there- and this, I think, goes to the heart of how this board is trying to to.

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Move forward uh continuing to grow relations with our municipalities, seeing them as vital partners.

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In the work that we do, and so it was a really enjoyable time, our deputy county administrator.

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Deb effingham was also present um and uh it was a really good evening and it's wonderful to be able.

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To network with our fellow elected officials and our state delegates and our senators, it's.

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Just another way of being able to advance the cause of our county, and that's it for me, this.

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Morning, okay, thank you, commissioner. Gordon thank you. I'm going to echo commissioner.

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Vigliotti's comments about the mml dinner. I thought it was a very well attended event.

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And I thought it was a good opportunity for us to interact with both our colleagues.

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Locally, as well as those that were, are not those in frederick as well.

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And then, on saturday, I attended the westminster beer and barbecue stroll in downtown westminster.

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That was a very successful event, a lot of individuals in attendance and was a good.

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Event for both local restaurants and those that were exhibiting and attending the event.

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Also on saturday, I took my parents who were die hard country fans to go, see uh lee greenwood.

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So I had the rare opportunity to meet lee greenwood, who was 80 years old, wow and he's.

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Going to perform for one more year and uh kind of fascinating, because you know we have a tendency to.

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Think of certain songs of his, but he actually had 22 albums eight compilation, albums, 40, singles and.

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Seven number one hits that's impressive. I also got to meet the young lady alexis wilkins, who.

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Was his uh who opened up for lee greenwood? She is a has a platinum album which has garnered over a.

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Million uh hits so far that has been played both on streaming platforms and others and.

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I think she's, a very up-and-coming musical talent and she's also very, very supportive.

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Of veterans, we had a common conversation briefly about veterans and her interest in.

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Supporting them, I thought that was absolutely wonderful as well. On monday, I myself and.

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Senator reedy and a number of individuals from the carroll county veterans, independence project.

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Were able to visit with a carroll county resident, mr george keaney, who served in the army for six.

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Years and for some interesting reason, mr keaney was never awarded physically his air medal with.

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His silk or excuse me silver oak leaf clusters. Mr keaney's been doing he's been in hospice for some.

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Time and his his health has been deteriorating quite rapidly when he was when he was notified.

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That he was going to be receiving his medal, his health rallied. Quite significantly, it was a true.

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Honor and a pleasure to meet him and to see the faith, the smile on his face when he received that.

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Medal was definitely something that uh without question was uh just absolutely incredible.

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Was definitely someone had asked me recently? What are what are things that you enjoy about being a.

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Commissioner, well, I can tell you seeing the look on his face and the appreciation of that, as in.

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His family's was just absolutely remarkable on tuesday morning, uh commissioner kyler and.

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Commissioner, rothstein, along with myself, attended the chamber breakfast where I spoke about some.

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Of the happenings within the county, and also what we're doing in district three, some of the various.

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Businesses and such so we had that on tuesday and then wednesday. uh Yesterday I attended the.

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Chambers event for gage digital media's, 10th anniversary of a company, that's been in the.

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County now for a decade and obviously as a small business owner, that's pretty significant to make.

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It to 10 years so I have to congratulate joe dominic and brett calgary and their staff for an.

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Incredible uh 10 years in carroll, county and then last but not least, I'll mention that next thursday.

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Which this event is typically on the weekends next thursday, is the 160th anniversary, corbett's charge.

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And they will be holding the event on thursday and, of course, for those that may not be aware.

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Corbett's charge was the skirmish that occurred on june 29 1863 in westminster when the american.

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During the civil war, when we had the confederate general jeb stewart coming through westminster and.

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And uh ended up running into the delaware first cavalry right before gettysburg, so a pivotal.

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Piece in our local history, as well as potentially the national history, some do contribute the delay.

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Of stewart to them having the defeat in gettysburg later on so that'll, be next thursday, with various.

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Memorial events and other historic events in westminster, so thank you. Okay, commissioner. Karen.

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Thank you and good morning, carroll county. uh I wanted to follow up on a discussion. I had last.

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Week in priority carol, where I got in depth a little bit on, you may all know. On july, 1st.

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The legalization of recreational use, cannabis takes an effect in maryland, but the sale and.

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How different counties and municipalities are handing that handling that are quite different.

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And I received a lot of feedback from people in the county overwhelmingly positive. I heard.

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From a lot of health officials, people in the school system a lot of parents, a lot of people.

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From other municipalities within the county that I have shared all these materials with.

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From the organization called learnaboutsam.org, which is an organization that's committed to.

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Smart approaches to marijuana learn about sam.org. I encourage people to go there, so I received a lot.

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Of feedback, I appreciate it. I wanted to again remind folks that this is an issue discussing.

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The sale of it, not the usage, we are not going to be going out to the the carroll county, sheriff's.

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Office or the maryland state police telling them to ignore that law that was passed but.

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This is an issue: it's a local issue of the sale and recreational distribution and distribution of.

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The substance of the drug within our county in our towns and our communities and what I think.

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Is interesting is just since last week there have been some very, I think, positive developments, ocean.

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City, new jersey, ocean city, new jersey, a place that gets a lot of people there in the summer.

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It's a family place. They voted unanimously on an ordinance that prohibits businesses.

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From cultivating manufacturing testing or selling marijuana, oh wow, what do you know? Let's keep going.

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Ocean city maryland just last week, did the same thing: we've all been to ocean city maryland. They.

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Are concerned about this for a reason, ocean city maryland voted to ban businesses that.

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Sell marijuana and allow the consumption on site they also voted to put to paul's temporarily on.

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The application process, or issuance of business licenses for growing processing and selling it.

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And one of my favorite beaches dewey has done the same thing. Lo and behold last week the.

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Dewey beach commissioners vote unanimously to prohibit marijuana growth and sales.

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So I think this movement, if you will, amongst those with with legislative and executive powers in this.

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State is growing, I think, there's a reason that these locations have decided to go this route.

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Because they know that this is going to be a real problem. And for those of you who you.

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Know hit me up and again I I love the emails and the text messages and all that stuff. I.

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Love it positive or negative, but you know don't conflate the two we're talking about the sale.

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And I think a lot of people make the mistake of getting into the discussion about alcohol.

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And I'll remind people that a lot of counties and towns throughout this country, I don't think.

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There's many left, but we did have dry counties and towns at one point. Damascus maryland, which.

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Is not far from mount airy was a dry town until 2013 after about 132 years, so don't be confused.

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By the two we are when we discuss this issue of sale and distribution, we are completely.

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Within our rights and our means to do so, and I think people when you go on the internet.

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The longer you search for this topic, you will find more and more municipalities and counties.

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Doing exactly what I discussed last week, they are banning its use and they're banning its.

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Sale and distribution because they know from an economic standpoint what it's going to do to them.

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And I mentioned a couple: great places: ocean city, new jersey, ocean city, maryland dewey beach. Those.

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Are wonderful places I think carroll county is pretty wonderful too. I I know these places.

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Are on the beach? Unfortunately, we don't have a beach and in carroll county unless it's on.

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A lake or something, but I happen to think we have a pretty darn good county and I want to.

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Protect it, and I think I think the rest of us do as well. So as this discussion goes forward,.

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I I want to encourage people to respond and chime in, but I want to make sure people understand what.

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What the big issue is here go to learn about sam.org for more information, whether you're a.

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Parent or an educator or a legislator, or an elected official to educate yourself.

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Thank you, okay, commissioner kyler yeah, and just the piggyback that, with just one comment more.

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um Be cautious about your employer and their regulations, because if I hadn't retired from.

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Stewart and tate, regardless, whether it's legal, regardless when I travel to colorado. If I came.

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Back and had a random test, and it showed up I'd, be terminated, so be cautious about that.

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I love carroll county and, uh more so or as much so I love my family.

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We're in the middle of mimi's summer camp by our six grandkids are here.

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They've been playing in the tree house up in the woods, we've been going to uh carnivals.

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They do their um investigations on their own there's. The tree house at part constructed.

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um They decided uh last night two nights ago that there was a carnival in hagerstown. It wasn't their.

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Fault there wasn't one in carroll county. We did find one in thurmont. That was a little closer and.

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uh Some of them will be here next week. We will get to uh carroll county carnivals too, and we always.

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Do it's it's great to support them, yeah, there's uh five of them. uh The oldest one willis was.

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Working and couldn't go with us, but there we are at thurmont calendar the carnival and there we are.

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After dinner at greenmount, and I did get back out of the chair by myself- I've got a I've, gotta say.

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That but um yes, a love family and mimi summer camp, that's father's day, brunch and that's our.

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Group there for uh for a brunch together and uh it's uh we're we're all blessed with family and.

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That's great now non-family uh carroll community college. We had the trustees meeting, they did a a.

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Ceremony for alan schumann, retiring and that that was great, we did go to maryland municipal league.

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Four of us attended that, while one of us was representing us at mako and so that.

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Was a productive evening for all of us, we did all this and to commissioner gordon at.

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Breakfast, and that was great and well received veterans advisory council had their meeting.

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And and all the veterans organization you mentioned, veterans, independence and and the.

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Other ones that often attend these meetings and talk one of the things we talked about and I know.

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Commissioner, rosting has said it several times.

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It's very hard to get veterans, even the ones with needs to reach out, and I know I currently have.

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A couple who are both veterans- another family, that the husbands of veteran they've all told.

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Me they need help. How do they get help? I give them a phone number and they don't do anything.

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And uh I think I got at our veterans advisory council. I think I got a couple people there.

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To volunteer get me their name and number: we've had good success with calling them and, and it was.

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Interesting they, they talked about a gentleman that dr whack just uh recommended to him and.

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He didn't want to talk to anybody, he didn't want anything done. They now have him getting meals on.

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Wheels getting getting getting some money that he's well deserved, getting him a place to live.

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And he he was uh in westminster, but not noticed by people, and I think he he went to health department.

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For some mental health issues, but they can help with that too. So uh yeah, please reach out.

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And uh try to encourage veterans to get the help they so deserve, and then my last thing.

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I want to thank our many boards and commissions. I've attended a few meetings lately and I know.

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And I reminded the members you applied for this, we didn't make you do it, you know, but they have.

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Some some long rough meetings and make some hard decisions. And- and I don't know that.

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They get credit when something goes wrong from many community members, but I don't know that.

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They get enough credit for what they do and how hard they work at it. So I do want to compliment.

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Them thank you now. I I appreciate it um topic. I wasn't going to talk about, but I often do.

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And that's our veterans, um so I appreciate what you're sharing and it's it's so true.

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The reason carroll county is so good when it comes to taking care of our veterans. It's.

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Because we recognize it's not an ore statement, but it's an and it's not go here or there or.

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Or use these folks or those folks, it's and you know, use these folks and these folks, it's not.

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Exclusivity, it is not a 501c3 whether it's the legion or anyone else saying well, we can do this.

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No one else can do what we do it's and it's always an end and if um folks do not take the opportunity.

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To reach out to the services, like you said, they deserve.

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I take the number I call you know, I'm straight up. I call celine steckel and gina valentine. I.

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Said take this one on and they reach out to the individual and they walk them through the process.

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My veteran support officer does phenomenal work uh here in the county and also has served my dad and.

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She passed, and you know the the honors and the gravestone markers all being processed through.

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You know these services- it's not in or or that you know, but it's an and and we've got to continue to.

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Work together, that's what makes carroll county so great when it comes to uh our veterans.

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um Too many veterans feel like they don't deserve it, and I only served two years or I.

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Always was drafted for a year and a half and it was in 1965 to 67.. You know they deserve it, and.

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We just have to continue to remind ourselves of that and them, um so I do appreciate that.

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You know bringing that up. I did go to mako merlin association counties, I'm on the board of directors.

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There are 16 on the board of directors, there's 24 uh jurisdictions, the counties in baltimore city.

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We were in howard county. The president of the board highlights the county for a day.

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And then goes through some legislative issues or we go through legislative issues, so howard.

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County was highlighted, and uh you know I dr ball, uh accounting executive. He did a great.

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Job there was a lot the best part about it is the sidebar conversations about practices.

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Best practices or challenges we have within our communities during that day and then also looking.

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At some of the highlights that are shared, but the next day we talk about specific issues and.

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um You know some of those issues were ev vehicles, electronic vehicles and moving towards that.

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Whether that's a good idea or a bad idea, is it more economical and all that kind of fun stuff. So.

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I took that information and I shared it with the county and we'll see if dpw you know feels like.

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That's of value or not, but it's just another tool in the toolbox. You know that was shared.

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um Blueprint was discussed, um the new mabe, which is maryland. What does that stand for association.

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Boards of education, maryland association boards of education has a new. um I think executive director.

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And president of their board- and they were there um so mako and we were committing ourselves to.

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Work with mabe, we being mako, we, in other words the jurisdictions working with me as we're.

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Moving forward with the black hole of blueprint- and we all recognize it's a black hole because.

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Nobody knows what's what's going in and uh you know we're we're all saying the same thing that.

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We're all challenged it's a herd of elephants and we're going to figure this out. You know a piece.

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At a time, um some counties are more challenged than others, especially with the funding and.

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You know we're we're going to go through some of that, but fortunately I believe we have very good.

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Legislators that we are very uh open and can to talk to, we have very good board of education that.

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We're very open and willing to talk to along with ccps so or carroll county public schools.

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Leadership so we'll get through that the other was um that was mentioned. uh Cannabis marijuana.

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Does go into effect for recreational use for adults 21 and over in maryland, starting.

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One july, if you remember a couple weeks ago, we had the mako leadership, say well.

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They have to work through they being legislators, some of the still the the laws and you know, may.

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Take a year or two and I'm you know, I was pretty straight up saying well.

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Why are we doing something if we don't have the processes in place to safeguard ourselves and.

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It's pretty frustrating and it's frustrating for a lot of folks.

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um But with that said, the trains left the station, whether we like that or not, and we.

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Have to commit ourselves to doing what is best for carroll county when it comes to.

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um This new law that takes effect um it's going to be tough, you know, but.

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I think it's important that we measure twice measure twice and cut once you know and not just.

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Throw it all out there, because once that cat's out of the bag, it's been hard to pull it back in so.

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um But there are restrictions, you know that are put in place. You know it's not about. If we don't.

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Do this? Well, we don't get the 1.5 percent tax, that's trains left to station, and I that was.

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One of the first questions I had um so there was definitely concerns about that more to follow as.

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We continue to focus our attention on. In august, we have the summer conference mako, that's starting to.

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Take um shape as far as the meetings on wednesday afternoon, thursday and friday through saturday.

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All the things I'm just talking about are going to be at the mango conference, so it's so important.

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That the leadership comes together and says: okay, these are the things we want to influence our our.

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Governor and our legislators on um so uh and mako, there's more red than there is blue at the table.

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Just by the numbers now it may not be the size, but it's not about size at the table. It's about the.

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Numbers so so that's an important piece of this as well, so it was a very productive meeting last week.

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At mako or in howard county last thing is, I hope everyone had a very happy father's day on sunday.

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um And enjoyed their time with family and with friends, hope those that celebrate juneteenth on.

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Monday, I know it was a federal holiday, but also, um I guess, a state and federal holiday on monday.

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And understood the purpose of juneteenth and the the importance not just purpose of juneteenth.

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um Okay, I think, before we get into the meat of the agenda, you have one more priority carol.

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Activity you want to talk about. Yes, um I'm honored to get to read a certificate of recognition for.

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Mr jeff daggett um and just a little background before I read probably.

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1969, I was a college student came home for the summer and this wouldn't happen today.

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Went to the principal in north carroll high school and said I'd love to have a.

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Wrestling group, through the summer college kids, could work out with the high school.

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Kids, it'd be great. You have a nice wrestling room here and he looked at me and said: you're.

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Not using my school, that's what ymca's are for well in 1971, the department got formed.

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That year and probably the next year, vince de palmer and manchester worked very hard to.

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Establish manchester wrestling, I mean manchester rec council now north carolina council and.

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Invited me to be on the board and form manchester wrestling, and we did that, and I remember.

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You coming to carroll county, I remember when you became a director and while positive correlation.

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Doesn't prove cause and effect. I'm also going to remember that I got elected commissioner and you.

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Decide to leave so uh you know, but there we go certificate of recognition. This certificate is.

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Awarded to jeff r dagats in recognition of over 32 years of distinguished service to carroll county.

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Government you exemplify the highest standard of performance and commitment in executing the.

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Vast responsibilities in your role as director of recreation in parks since january 1, 2006.

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As only the fourth director since the department was founded in 1971, your.

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Leadership is evident in many areas, including opening over half of the county's 30 parks.

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Opening two community centers establishing the park legacy fund, adding 225 acres of parkland.

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Overseeing the development of recreation councils and growing the department from 17 to over 500.

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Programs offered to our community for your dedication to carroll, county and 10 boards of.

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County commissioners, we wholeheartedly thank you and wish you the very best for your future signed.

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By the current commissioners, thank you. Thank you very much. I know you have a long agenda, so I will.

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Be brief much briefer than the 32 years when I left baltimore county in 1990 and came here.

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It was one of the most difficult decisions I had made in my life, and I I stalled as long as I could.

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Before I really had to make a decision one way or the other, it ended up being the best decision. One.

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Of the best decisions I've ever made, I will say second best decision. The first one was marrying my.

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Wife lisa, so that will keep me out of hot water. Hopefully good answer. Yes see. You learn. Okay,.

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When I made the decision to retire, it was also one of the most difficult decisions, because.

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I love carroll county as well, and it's a great place to work. We have a wonderful staff, fantastic.

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Staff and a dedicated group of volunteers, when I came here from baltimore county, I could not.

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Believe how much more volunteers do here, and some of it's out of necessity, but a lot of it is out of.

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Love for their community, they just want to give back. So it's been a very, very rewarding career.

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Here it's been very rewarding having 44 years in the field and somehow coming out the other end and.

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Still feeling good about that- and I am looking forward to retirement and spending more time.

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With my wife and family, so thank you for all your support and I guess you learn a.

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Lot of things along the way- and I guess one of the things I learned is 32 and a half years- is.

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My limit of working with this guy, that's a pretty good run. That's a pretty good! It is a.

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Pretty good run and, to be honest, that's one of the things I'll regret most is not being able.

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To work with you longer in your current role, but I appreciate all of your support and all.

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The other boards and it's hard to believe 10 boards, but most of the other portions.

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No I'm kidding now, congratulations and thank you for your selfless service to a community.

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um You know it it's truly out of out of um out of love for a community the work you did.

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um And it shows I mean it is highlighted in so many ways, and you know it's not about you.

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Being upfront, it's about you leading a team and you're always about that. You know it's not and.

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Just when we do the volunteer recognition, you know it's about team, so um I've learned.

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A lot from you in that, so just thank you um and really good luck uh in all of your.

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Future endeavors down in carolina right, yes and uh good health to you and to lisa and the family. So.

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But thank you any. I will echo commissioner rothstein's uh generous and kind statements.

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And agree with him completely I mean I, you know: we've only been in these positions, most of us for.

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Six months and- and I you know blessed- who've- been able to work with you for that time and to be able.

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To come to call you a friend as well, um you know it. I think that that what you do preserves part.

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Of god's earth for everybody to be able to enjoy, I mean we have a park system in this county. That.

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I've never seen anywhere else. Nothing else is ever compared to what I've seen here and you've been.

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The central driving force behind that for the last you know 16 17, whatever. What's it been 16.

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17 years as director in almost 33 total- and that is absolutely incredible- I mean you certainly.

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Left your mark on this county and we really will miss you, I mean I certainly will, and I.

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Will always treasure that day that you took me out to what will become the future northwest.

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Regional park and and trekking through mud and almost getting our drone attacked by a hawk and.

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But it's just it's, it's absolutely uh you've been a blessing and I pray god uh will bless.

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You and your family in every single possible way and everything you do in the future. Thank.

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You, okay anything else, I'll, just echo very briefly on their comments and say jeff, you know we greatly.

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Appreciate all you've done in your long-standing career here and wish you and lisa the best in the.

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Future adventures and some relaxation thank you very much sure, yeah jeff. Thank you very much for.

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Your service, you will be missed and I know it's only been about six months, but I we have worked.

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A few issues down in district four- and uh it was a pleasure- and we came up with some great solutions.

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Along the way, so thank you for that and I wish you the best of luck. Thank you. I think the best thing.

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About my time here is, I could probably count on one-handed days. It actually felt like work most.

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Of it was genuinely enjoyable and I'll tell you now I would have done it for free, but um yeah.

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But not many people get to say that in their life, so I feel.

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I feel pretty fortunate for that. So, okay, let's get our last photo.

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Let's do the obligatory photo, matt or greg whoever's going to come out whichever door.

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Jeff, you have to be a little disappointed by the size of the proclamation, given the.

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Checks that you've, given out it's not shaped like a fish.

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Thank you. I brought the envelope since it's raining and you're, not in our building.

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Absolutely yeah yeah, okay, let's get to uh some business with approval of.

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A budget transfer and budget adjustment for fy, 23 carroll, county public schools.

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Good morning, commissioners warning good morning rob burke cfo with carroll county public schools.

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And uh and the last man standing there too, it sounds like yeah yeah put school out.

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Or some of our leadership taking some time some family time away, and so I'm alone here today.

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Good news is not here to ask for any money for blueprint. I will save that for another.

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Day, this is in uh obviously in preparation for uh year end here, at the end of the month, the.

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Carroll county board of education considered and approved for budget action items at their.

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Most recent open meeting on june 14th so, as you know, by state law, the board of ed.

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Budget items are required to be approved by the county government.

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So we've submitted four action items. These are primarily recognizing some unanticipated revenue.

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And expenditures uh on on several adjustments and the annual process of transfers among categories.

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In order to make sure that we are coming in at year, end spending within categories, so no.

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Additional funding here this is all net sort of net impact of zero for the action items I can.

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Walk through them for you, I can do them one at a time or all four, whatever your preference would be.

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And could you touch on all four of them very briefly, okay, so the.

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First, is our operating budget transfer 23-01? This is our annual transfer item.

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um This net's about 3.3 million in total of um transfers, among categories primarily to.

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Recognize a few uh cost increases in certain areas. We saw an increase in employee health.

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Costs we saw an increase in technology and in maintenance, inflationary cost drivers there and.

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Then, with the the one blueprint item, is the full tuition cost now that we're paying for students.

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At carroll community college for dual enrollment that wasn't quite fully understood and captured.

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In our initial budget adoption for fiscal year 23., so we're using some savings from other categories.

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Primarily, salary savings in some of the other categories to cover those uh budgetary items.

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The second would be our first operating budget adjustment 23-01. This is to recognize the.

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um In-Kind support from county government related to the sro, the school resource officer program at.

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The time that we adopted the budget for fiscal year 23, we weren't, um didn't get to recognize.

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That so this will be the final year where this will be a budget adjustment. We were able to.

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Build this into the ongoing budget for fiscal year 24., so this is about a little over 1.3 million of.

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Recognizing the costs that are in the sheriff's office to supply the school resource officers.

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The second budget adjustment 23-02 is the result of unanticipated costs and to recognize the.

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Insurance recovery revenue of several events that happened at the schools throughout the year, the.

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First was the storm damage in central office that damaged the roof and did some flooding.

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In upper offices, the christmas holiday breaks saw several flood floods at various schools.

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With burst pipes and the most recent was a fire in the front offices at south carroll.

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High school, so, unfortunately, three events that occurred to the schools during the year that.

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Are covered by insurance, but the expenditure would exceed our existing budget authority so.

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We'll write up the revenues with the insurance proceeds a little over 440 000 total there and.

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The last is our food service budget 23-01 food service adjustment. This is primarily federal.

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Revenue related to the school program, with the increase in free and reduced meals and the.

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Continued operation of a lot of the free meals related to covet grants and so forth.

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We saw additional spending and federal revenues in our food service program little over three.

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And a half million dollars federal revenue and then also some use of fund balance. As we.

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Are using some of those funds to replenish and replace some of the kitchen equipment.

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At many of the schools we've been fairly aggressive in that program over the last.

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Year or so, making some good headway in renewing a lot of the on-site equipment at the schools.

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That's the four budget action items that were approved by the board of education on june.

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14Th for your consideration and if you have any questions uh I'll see, if I can work through them,.

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And this might be more for our side of the fence than yours. What was the logic in changing the.

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Sro's cost to be in this report. Instead of I guess in the prior, it was the sheriff's.

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So the costs still remain in sheriffs. Those are employees of the county government, the sheriff's.

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Office, the costs are still there, there's a process in the accounting and financial reporting to.

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Make sure that costs are captured that fully capture the set of costs of of any operation.

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Since these costs are considered in support of the school system, they're really you know their.

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The activity that they provide is in support of the school system than we recognize those costs.

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On the school systems, books as well offset it with a a non-cash revenue called in-kind. So this isn't.

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Any money changing hands, but it is necessary in order to capture the cost. It would have us exceed.

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That category total, so we need to recognize it really nothing changed in the operational side.

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Of how it is simply the recognition of this as an additional revenue of support by the county for.

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The school system I answered that beautifully. Didn't I yeah yeah? Yes, yes, yes! Well now did he.

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Make the schools do it or was he with the schools and was made today which, which was the timing.

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There, I think, that's a chicken it was. It was my idea that later came back to uh no, it's really.

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um You know certainly a great program and and and definitely appreciated by the school system.

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um I think once initial kinks were worked out, that program is really working well and.

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um So, as I mentioned now, we know ongoing. We captured the cost of this program and this in.

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Kind revenue in our fiscal year, 24 budget, so we won't need to do this adjustment again and and.

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Irrelevant to the motions uh I want to compliment past boards, the sheriff's office, the school system.

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um We have, we have an sro program that is, is honor nationwide, not just statewide, but nationwide and.

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And you see so many individual colorado denver got rid of them. Well, who'da thought they're now having.

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Problems in schools- they, they might put them back. You know, and then we went through the period of.

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Well, they shouldn't be allowed to have handguns well, maybe they should leave them in the car. So.

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You can say well just wait a minute I gotta run to my car. Don't do anything and we haven't had.

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Those issues knock on wood, so I just want to compliment everybody for coming up with that.

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Program and and for how it's been going, it's just awesome. Yeah agreed. I have a question regarding.

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The farm program sure for again for people watching that is an acronym, free and reduced.

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Meals, not not farms per se, but so we're talking about a three and a half million dollar increase.

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To that program- and then you mentioned some other related costs, you know uh that in food.

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Preparation that go towards that program, but also probably are used during the day for you.

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Know regular lunches, what can you put a number on that actual cost in the county.

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For fy, I guess it would be for fy 23 technically how much that program overall cost the carroll.

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County public school system- so I think, that's somewhat captured in the uh briefing there.

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That the very last page, your packet for this item, is shares what the original budget was at.

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About eight and a half million, the increase is the three and a half the total at 12.1 million.

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um Is the grand total of our food service program offset with some revenues that are.

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Family, uh you know per meal charges that hasn't been touched or raised in quite a.

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Number of years, so that's still a fairly low portion of the revenue. The majority is the.

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Federal reimbursement program, so you know, I think we see total federal funding there.

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Something close to 10 million dollars, yeah. Okay, thank you.

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And, and- uh and I don't know if you want to comment some on this- it was amazing for me from the other.

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Side um what she does with food services, almost everything needed for food services comes out of.

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Her budget because she's actual runs it, like you, can't say out of profit, but in in the positive it.

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Seems, like always yeah, so that's miss karen sarno I'll, give her a shout out. uh Our director in food.

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Services and um yeah- that's that's! The goal is to try to to run the whole program within that.

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She's uh made some real uh advance there that food service used to be a bit of a of a drag.

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On the budget from a general fund standpoint, so being able to capture all those costs and have a.

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Program, the way it is and now really reinvesting in the in the equipment and so forth is uh is, is.

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A good operation thank you and, and uh the public school system's been working with this side of.

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The county trying to acquire some space um trying to buy a building and back and forth discussing.

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Because she feels, if she had storage for more bulk stuff, she could probably even make the.

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Budget a little bit more positive, yeah we're looking at alternatives there we'll continue.

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To explore that an opportunity to try to get some bulk purchase, um you know side and then do.

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Some central warehousing and distribution, that's something that that will continue to work toward.

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Okay motion to approve the operating budget transfer 23-01 for the board.

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Of education, fiscal year, 23 operating fund budget second.

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Okay, I have a motion. I have a second any further discussion on this. All in favor aye.

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We need to uh motion all the adjustments or no yeah might as well individually or.

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Motion to approve the operating budget adjustment 23-01 for the board of education fiscal year, 23.

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Operating fund budget second motion. Second, all in favor aye motion to approve the operating budget.

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Adjustment 23-02 for the board of education, fiscal year, 23 operating fund budget. Second,.

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Motion, second, all in favor aye motion to approve the food services budget adjustment 23-01 for the.

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Board of education, fiscal year, 23 food services, fund budget; second motion; second, all in favor, okay,.

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Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. Thank you very much have a good day. Okay, let's talk.

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About the actual services, rfp 15 tech, ftec, 2 tech 2223 yeah morning good morning morning,.

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Okay, good morning morning, come on. I just want to let y'all know I was filling in for maureen today.

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She had a last minute appointment, so I stepped in, for so we got the better. Now, I'm good, I don't.

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Know about that uh you're good! All right! um The office of procurement, in cooperation with the.

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Department of human resources received proposals for actuarial services for the following plants.

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um Carroll county pension and the carroll county, public safety, pension.

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Length of service award program, the retiree benefit, trust and evaluation committee was formed.

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And to conduct technical and financial review of the proposals submitted, the committee evaluated.

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All proposals based on criteria detailed in the proposal, the evaluation committee recommends.

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Award to boomershine consulting group llc the highest ranked firm for this project. The estimated.

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Annual cost is sixty six thousand dollars. These expenses will be paid from the assets of plans.

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Boomershine has other fixed fees for the duration of the five-year contract.

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I can add some more meat on the bone if you'd like so our current contract with bolton expires on.

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June 30th of this year, it's a five-year contract and we've used bolton as our actuary for those.

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Plans for the last 20 plus years so they've been a long time partner with us. But what we.

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Did was we put out the rfp and we received responses from seven different firms and all.

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The proposals were very strong, both the technical piece and the financial piece, but we chose boomer.

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Shine because there were really two things that distinguished them from the other candidates.

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For one their um their response time, their turnaround time is promised to be much quicker.

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Than it had been with bolton, especially over the last couple of years, just to provide an example.

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With our pension plans, we receive an actuarial evaluation every year and with bolton we usually.

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Receive those reports in late december early january and it seemed to be getting pushed back.

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With each passing year, but boomershine has pledged that they would get get the reports.

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To us by late october or november, so that's definitely an advantage. The other thing, too, is.

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Bolton like with all actuarial affirms, they provide individual calculations. So when we have.

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An employee that's about to retire or is already retired, and we're about to turn their pension on.

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Usually bolton would take a couple of weeks to provide me with those calculations, but boomershine.

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Has pledged again about a one-week turnaround, so just in general, the turnaround time is is much.

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Better with boomershine and the other thing that really distinguished them from the others is that.

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They I mean boomershine they've been around for 30 years. They have a lot of clients in the state of.

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Maryland they're prevalent in 15 different states and their cost was definitely much.

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Less than the other candidates and the cost is actually fixed for the entire five-year contract.

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And that's something we didn't see with the other candidates. The other candidates typically had a.

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Two percent or a three percent inflator, but um boomer shine's cost, is fixed for the entire.

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Five-Year duration of the contract, just one of the other things that I'd add, is in years past.

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We have not been providing benefit statements to our employees, our active employees with regards to.

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Their pension and what that looks like years out and what they could you know potentially.

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Expect that is one piece that we tied into the rfp important for all of the responders to give.

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Us some information on boomershine responded to that. They are including those benefit statements.

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And the cost that they gave us and there's some other options that we can look at down the road.

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Whether it be projections that an employee can go online and make themselves so a lot of.

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Different things that that we're looking at enhancing the experience for employees with.

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Regards to understanding their pension better, even as far as educational sessions or seminars.

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Where boomershine would partner with you know, other opera, social security or or things like.

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That that we can help educate employees better with regards to that benefit, because it is a.

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Large costs, employees, you know, contribute five percent of their pay to it. As far as regular.

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Commissioner employees, so it is important for them to understand what they're getting out.

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Of that and and how important that is as part of their total compensation package, I wanted.

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So much to ask you some hard questions, but I think you guys covered it so well. I can't do it.

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But you covered it, so we we actually interviewed um two gentlemen from.

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Boomershine last week they would serve as our primary contacts and we were very impressed by.

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um By their presentation and by the responses to our questions, so in addition to warner and.

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I jenny was on the evaluation committee, so I'll tell you personally, I I appreciate the confidence.

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That you are sharing with this contract. I mean it's important and uh yeah. You did obvious to.

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All of us, I believe, the due diligence in working through this and then sharing that confidence. So.

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um I'll move the board of commissioners award or contract for actual services to boomershine.

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Consulting group llc. Second, I got a motion. I got a couple seconds, I think all in favor.

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All right, okay! Thank you. Thank you. If you get a couple more seconds, you'll end up with a minute.

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Get the penny in here this morning, so move on to oh.

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Let's move on to fy24 maryland facade improvement program grant from the maryland department of.

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Housing and community development dhcd good morning, commissioners morning, everybody.

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Beautiful thursday we're finally getting some much-needed rain, absolutely amen.

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So we're here today for a couple grant opportunities to discuss with you all. First up.

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We will be talking about a grant opportunity for facade improvements in the finksburg corridor. Miss.

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Tiffany fawcett will be leading the discussion and be able to answer any questions that you have.

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Good morning, I also have with me today the president of the finksburg planning and.

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Citizens, council skip boyles as well good morning good morning, as director hein had said. This is.

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For the approval to apply for a fy24, maryland facade improvement program, the mfip grant it.

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Is administered through the department of planning with the project lead on that being claire stewart.

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The maryland facade improvement program grant is offered to designated sustainable communities.

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The the capital budget for the program is 65 571. The state grant request is forty. Eight thousand.

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Participant match twelve thousand and county in kind match. Five thousand five.

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Hundred seventy one dollars, the county has been administering the finksburg facade improvement.

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Program since april, first 2022, with funding from maryland dhcd's fy 22 community legacy program.

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The state funding of forty eight thousand, if awarded, will be used to fund up to 80 percent of.

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The total cost of projects for the facade and sign improvements and to make other visually impactful.

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Exterior improvements in return for the property or business owners, 20 or greater investment.

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The program will be offered on a rolling basis for two years. If funding is available.

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On this map here eligible applicants, there we go eligible, applicants are highlighted in transparent.

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Green and outlined in yellow those are developed: commercial and industrial zoned properties that.

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Front maryland, 140 or adjacent to a property that fronts 140 and are in the designated sustainable.

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Community, on top of the matching grant, we can also incentivize property owners to make improvements.

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By allowing them to pair the county's gate, gateway renovation, tax credit with this program.

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Planning would continue to administer the finksburg facade improvement program.

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And we've estimated a little under six thousand dollars in kind contribution for.

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Staff time to administer the project, if spread out over six applications,.

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A survey was released for public input in march 2021 to eligible property owners asking.

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For their interest, in the program of this type, we received about a 20 response rate. All respondents.

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Did show interest in making improvements and seeing a program like this in their community.

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With commissioner approval, we did apply for and were awarded the.

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Grant funds in december 2021 and we started accepting applications april of last year.

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Original expressed interest, along with a recent uptick in interest by business and.

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Property owners, including two applications currently in review process, has spurred us.

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To come before you to request approval to apply for state grant funding for the program again.

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And lastly, we would like to thank the finksburg planning and citizens council.

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For their participation in this effort, thinkpac has worked beside us the last couple years, while.

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Drafting and revising the guidelines applying for the grant, reviewing applications and marketing and.

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Opportunity the opportunities and benefits of the program to the community and they have been.

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Nothing but supportive through the process of implementing the sustainable communities, action.

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Plan and if you allow the skip boyles president of thinkpac is here and if you'd like to say anything.

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The finksburg planning and citizens council, I think, as everybody understands and knows,.

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Is an all volunteer organization? That's been in existence about 22 years now made up of residents.

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And some business members within the community as a gateway coming into carroll county. We, those of.

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Us that live in the area take a great deal of pride in the area as well and have done.

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Everything that we can think of to try to help and enhance and improve the overall appearance.

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Of that gateway corridor, these programs, that tiffany is speaking about, certainly take a.

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Huge step in that direction, and recently we've been able to develop a bit of momentum now with.

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Some interest coming from businesses along the corridor and we have a very strong belief that.

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Once you start this program and they begin to see some results that others will come on board.

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um Some of the volunteers have gone door to door along with representatives from county planning.

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To try to stimulate some interest and we'll continue to do that as well, because it is, it is.

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A well-received program, face-to-face individuals always say it's a wonderful program. How can you.

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Not participate in a program. That's going to reward you with an 80 coverage of whatever it.

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Is you're going to do to enhance the appearance of your building, which hopefully, will enhance the.

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Value of their business- and I think most people see it that way. So we certainly appreciate your.

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Consideration in this review and any support that the county is willing to provide going forward.

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Thank you. Okay. Are there any questions on this? Just a quick comment. I think.

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um Like we talked about veterans it, it seemed like businesses were reluctant to take advantage of it.

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But you've got some momentum now some have done it if some are talking about it. So it's it's moving.

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In a positive way, so good luck, yeah! I um I was the economic developer, anne arundel county back.

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In 2013 2014- and we had this facade improvement program and it was reluctance you know, but just.

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Like you said once we started moving forward with it. People said: oh man, that's pretty cool. Looking a.

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Brand new awning and you know in uh small shops- um I think it was in uh arnold and glen burnie with.

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Some of the air well definitely in brooklyn, was one of the challenging areas that we focused on.

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um 20 percent response rate is low, I mean some people say it's high higher than 10 percent, but.

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It's still low, are you using different techniques, different approaches to get more or are you.

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Focusing on that 20 percent getting this put in place and let that that tell a large part.

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Of the story, you know it's, you know where I'm coming from that's a great question: the that.

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Was actually the survey done in 2021, so it would be? Skip was actually here, and I was not at that.

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Time for how that was handled, do you remember we? We circulated the questionnaire to all of the.

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um With help from the county, we've got a address list and circulated the questionnaire and.

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Collected through, I think, also the county, the responses that came back with those responses.

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Then those people that expressed interest all to respond to these expressed an interest. We then.

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Went to those locations and spoke with them directly and as as I mentioned before, face to.

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Face everyone is in agreement, that's a wonderful program and something that they think they should.

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Do there's some discussion about? Well, I just improved my building last year. Do I get credit.

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Or can I get credit for money that I've already spent? Of course you can't you got to do something.

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New in order to participate in the program um recently, there was an event held at bellissimo's.

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That was a luncheon event and invited all of the businesses from the area, and we had a good.

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Turnout, I would say not great turnout, but good turnout, people that came and with representatives.

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From economic development, in addition to planning the entire program was described.

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Once again, maps were shown of the treated area where you could actually participate in the.

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Program how it actually works and the benefits of participating, along with the accomplishments of.

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Of one business, that's already participated and the applications that are coming forward now.

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From others, so with all of that in play, I I'm not sure that that's a good answer to your question.

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But we try to take trigger more than just those respondents and again, like I've, said members of.

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The finksburg planning and citizens council have actually gone throughout the community, knocking.

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On the doors of the businesses to try to stimulate some interest, giving out the cards that have been.

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Produced by the county that quickly states what the program is about and how to how to participate.

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And apply now you definitely answered the question: it's challenging complex to get it the word out.

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There to everyone, and the expectation that you think you're going to is your phone yourself.

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um But it doesn't slow you down from keep going. You know, and this approaches tell two friends to.

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Tell two friends type of approach: right. Is this a one-time deal or if this shows its value, will you.

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Be able to reapply- and I'm not saying you but us from the county? Yes, yes, you can. We can continue.

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To reapply annually, or we can do it annually- okay, yes, it is. Although the funds um are look.

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Are hope to be spent within two years and they do um we do uh quarterly and then yearly reports on.

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That so they're looking to have it spent within a couple years, um but it is that you can reapply so.

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We uh actually were awarded last year. We could have reapplied even last year too, for this year.

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But besides finksburg, what other areas within the county have we applied for for facade improvements.

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Ourselves, we can't apply for any others, because we don't have another sustainable community.

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Designation in the in the county, all of the municipalities do have are sustainable communities.

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Or they have a sustainable community designations and they have applied for facade improvement.

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Programs within those municipalities- I don't know how many in particular so eldersburg doesn't have.

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That opportunity they do not not as as of yet are there other tools available, maybe within dhcd.

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You can certainly look at that yeah, okay, because I mean there's in military intelligence. We say.

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Ungoverned space, but that's not what this is, but there are spaces within our community within our.

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County that are just not within the municipalities, eldersburg woodbine. You know lots of them uh and.

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Have really cool small businesses and if we have tools possibly to enhance them, you know that's a.

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Good thing I mean finksburg does a great job at this. You know um gamber, you know, there's others.

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So, okay cool, we should holler. You want to take this one, because it's sure I moved the board of.

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County commissioners approved the submission and acceptance of the fiscal year. 24 maryland facade.

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Improvement program grant. Second, I have a motion. I have a second any discussion on this. All in favor.

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Aye aye. Thank you very much. Thank you for the finksburg group unrelated to this.

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um Carroll county, particularly public works, has been looking at the county roads that are going.

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To be affected by the two bridge projects and and working with the state and baltimore county.

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Because some of the roads that people are going to try to take start in baltimore county. If, if your.

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Association down there has any thoughts or needs or whatever please contact us, but but they it is.

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In the works and it is being discussed, I know a lot of your community members are concerned about.

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It yes, yes, a meeting happening at the library in september. Yes, yeah, it's already scheduled so.

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Cool. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you good job, mary. Thank you.

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Okay: let's talk about request approval for grant adjustment.

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And acceptance award honey run watershed good morning again good morning again.

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You're just going to stay up here for a few more times, yeah, that's not good!.

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So um the county has been working for a couple years now on. What's called a watershed, study.

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For piney run reservoir uh this uh the study is funded through a grant from the natural resources.

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Conservation service, it's a half million dollar grant and we are reaching the end of that. That.

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Study of the report that's generated from it has been reviewed by the national headquarters. The.

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Federal level of nrcs and they've got some scope items that they want to have addressed, which will.

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Require some additional costs so because this is a pro new project. To several of you and to many of.

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You I thought it would take just a couple minutes to run through it, to give you some backgrounds.

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So you understand what it is: we're trying to accomplish with all this so again, we're talking.

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About behind me run reservoir, the reservoir itself was completed in 1974, and it had three primary.

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Purposes, and that was for flood control, water supply and recreation. The reservoir is created.

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By the piney run dam, which is the largest dam that the county owns, the dam is 73 feet, tall and 600.

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Feet long and it holds back the reservoir, which is 290 acres and about 1.7 billion gallons of water.

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What's important on this, is it gives you some some terminology related to the reservoir and.

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To the dam, but the primary thing I wanted to point out to you was what we call the.

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Principal spillway and the auxiliary spillway, the purposes of those are to convey the water.

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That comes into the reservoir past, the dam and into the into piney run downstream fit.

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So the principal spillway is what maintains the water level, the permanent water level in.

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The dam and the picture in the upper right is the the control structure, so that maintains.

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The water level water drops down, and that comes through the dam and to the stream.

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If we have a very severe storm and and I'm talking biblical proportions, type.

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Storm because in this since 1974, we have never had water go through the auxiliary spillway.

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The closest we came was in 1975 with hurricane eloise. A water came up into it, but did not flow.

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Through it that auxiliary spillway is designed to convey those very large storms past the dam.

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So piney run dam is classified by the maryland department of the environment.

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Which is this regulatory agency for all dams in the state? It's classified as what's called.

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A high hazard, and the reason for that you can see in this image, is that here we have the dam.

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And you can imagine that, if that were were completely full, we would have 73 feet of water.

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um Stacked up behind it, if that were to fail catastrophically, that wave of water would wash.

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Down the valley and impact maryland 32, as well as residents and keep going from miles all the.

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Way through howard county, so there is a there is a risk there, but that's moderated by having very.

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High standards for operating and maintaining the facility, but also has very high design standards.

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And for the safety of it and how it's built and that's what we're talking about primarily today,.

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But one thing one very key thing I want everybody to take away from this is from.

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An operation and maintenance perspective there are no concerns with the dam there's.

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Not an immediate structural issue or anything like that. The dam is inspected every year by.

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Representatives from the county, from nrcs and from mde and every inspection has indicated.

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That it's in good condition well maintained, and there are no immediate safety concerns.

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So the issue that we're looking to address is from a design perspective because of that high risk.

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The dam and needs to be able to safely pass the the largest storm that you could imagine occurring.

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Here in our area and what mde expressed a couple years ago was, they were concerned that the size.

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Of the spillway, the auxiliary spillway was not large enough to safely pass that that maximum.

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Probable storm that we could encounter. They also expressed concerns that, because this is an earthen.

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Spillway that if we did have water going through it, that could erode and cause a failure of the dam.

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So there are those two issues that md asked us to look at: they required that we evaluate analyze the.

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Dam to determine if, if their fears were founded and if there are issues that we mitigate those.

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Issues by august of 2027., so the first phase of the work was to do this. Watershed study.

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Which we applied for grant funding with nrcs nrcs helped build the dam they built. The dam in 1974.

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And they awarded us the half million dollar grant. We hired a common engineering firm to perform that.

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Watershed study, so the watershed study covered a lot of varying components that I'm not going.

N

To get into today, but the primary thing related to the spillway capacity is here: you can see the.

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Numbers related to the storm that we have to analyze in this region, the largest imaginable.

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Storm which we have to design for is 39 inches of rain in 72 hours. Like I said, that's biblical.

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Hurricane eloise that's 2.7 times greater than hurricane eloise in 1975. and what the analysis.

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Of the dam shows is that if we were to have that storm there would be water four feet deep.

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Over top of the dam which is representing this cross section here and if you have water going.

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Over top of a dam that can cause the failure of the dam, which is the concern that md has raised.

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Looking at the cross-section view, here's the auxiliary spillway to the right and you can see.

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It's not large enough to handle that amount of water, so the solution is to widen the spillway.

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And take the material that we excavate from the wide and spillway and put it on top of.

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The dam raising the dam by three or four feet, so we have a solution that, in theory, we've come.

N

Up with to address the capacity issue, the other issue, as I mentioned, is erodability.

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Of the auxiliary spillway, this is a picture of another nrcs dam that failed because of.

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The erosion of the auxiliary spillway and this looks very similar to piney rundown, the same.

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Design, so this is what we're trying to avoid, and the relatively simple solution is to put.

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Concrete at the downstream end to protect it so that it cannot erode up through the spillway.

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So the bottom line is where we are now. The study has determined these issues and and what needs.

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To happen so um in working with mde by august of 2027, we have a deadline to raise the dam and widen.

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The spillway and armor the downstream end of the spillway, with concrete the estimated cost for that.

N

For design and construction is 11 million dollars now, as I said, this first phase of work that we're.

N

Doing which is the the study nrcs funded for half a million dollars once that's complete? We.

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Can apply for another grant for the design and permitting and nrcs if we're accepted in that.

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Program will fund 100 of that that's estimated to be a little over two million dollars. Thereabouts.

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Once we finish the design and permitting, we can then apply for a third grant for.

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The construction and nrcs, if we're accepted, will cover 65 percent of the construction cost.

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So that's why we're going through this long process with nrcs now the reason why we're.

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Here today, as I said, we're just about wrapped up with this, and we know what we need to do and so.

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On we just need the national nrcs to approve the the study. They've indicated a couple of.

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Additional items that they want to have addressed and I'll point out the the primary one to you all.

N

This is a picture of the downstream uh end of the auxiliary spillway and inside this yellow box. You.

N

Can see this, this rectangle, which I've blown up here, that is the foundation of an old house.

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Our project will not impact that that old foundation, but nrcs has indicated that it may be a.

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Cultural resource of concern, so they want to know what what is it did. George washington sleep there.

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That sort of thing do we need to protect it. So as part of the initial watershed study, we did what's.

N

Called a phase one archaeological study that did not find anything conclusive, that it's something.

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That needs to be protected, but nrcs is requiring us to do a phase. Two archaeological study.

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That the cost of that is over a hundred thousand dollars and was not in the scope.

N

Of the original project, so that's the primary reason why we're coming back to you all is for.

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A contract extension of the project with nrcs and a request for additional funding.

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From nrcs to pay for these requirements, that nrcs is putting on us for the project.

N

So in total we're requesting uh we're going to request an additional 170 thousand dollars of.

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Nrcs and um then and in a one-year extension, hopefully that all goes through smoothly, we.

N

Wrap up this report and we can move on to the design and permitting of the project.

N

So with that, I would be happy to answer any questions and I I am remiss and say.

N

That I'm joined here by janet o'meara bureau chief of resource management good morning.

A

Okay, is there anything else you wanted to add before? No, I think chris covered everything you.

Q

Know very well some of the other tasks that they will be doing it. I guess, is a wetland delineation.

Q

um They've also asked for a joint permit application to mde and the army corps and.

Q

Additional rare and threatened endangered species coordination.

Q

um And then 25 000 of that request is to cover administrative costs here at the county.

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Yes of the original half million dollar grant, 450 000 went to a uh was dedicated to aecom.

N

For consulting services, fifty thousand dollars was set aside for administrative costs for the county.

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And so in this additional request, the consultant services uh were estimated at 145 000 and we're.

N

Putting in a request for an additional 25 000 in administrative costs, doing the work is not going.

A

To shut down the trail over the dam, no okay and chris, what what is involved in the the phase? Two.

C

I mean: is it stratigraphic trenching? Is it like a larger grid excavation or is it it's actually.

N

If I'll come back to your question, I just want to make sure I didn't answer too quickly for you.

N

Commissioner, when you say the work, I assume that you were talking about the archaeological work.

N

At the correct okay, no, that will not affect anything when we do the big project. That's a.

A

Different story- yes, okay, I just want to make sure I didn't miss the answer for you, um commissioner,.

N

Cloudy, um yes, the um I'm not an archaeologist, so I don't know all of the the differences in the.

N

Phase one first phase two, but my understanding is it's primarily in the amount of of test pits and.

N

Studies that you do, I think we we may have done three or four test pits out there as part of the.

N

Phase one study: now there will be upwards of 30 test pits and those are similar to if you watch.

N

The history channel type archaeological digs they go out and create a grid, and they they dig down.

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And categorize all of the artifacts that they find send them off to be analyzed to determine age and.

N

And provenance as it were, and and so on, that's awesome and so and anything they find as I come.

C

Back to the county, or do they keep that locked away somewhere where the public good question now.

N

What's interesting is, is the fundamental question I had for them was what is going to be the result.

N

Of the study like if they determine that this is a cultural resource that needs to be protected, what.

N

Do we need to do and early on there was some some talk about, we would have to revise the design of.

N

The dam to to avoid this, thankfully, the more recent conversations have been that if it is.

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Determined that this is a cultural resources that needs to be protected. We will simply move it and.

N

So that would probably be part of the cost of the construction cost long term that the county would.

N

Have to bear part of that cost, because the grant from nrcs would cover 65 of it. But that seems to.

N

Be the the the remedy if it is determined to be a cultural resource? If the archaeological study.

N

Says it's not that george washington did not sleep there or, however, um then it will be left as is, and.

N

um And we will not have to address it and I was going to ask him: do they have any? I mean I guess.

C

They have to have some sense that there might be something there I mean even going back to like.

C

Land records, or whatever I mean they I I mean have they do you know if they've done that they've gone.

C

Back into land records and to to the archives to see if they can determine who owned it and yeah so.

N

Some level of that was done as part of the phase one. There is a much more in-depth um research.

N

Component in the phase two to try and determine whose house it was, and so on um that preliminary.

N

um That phase one level of research was not able to determine um who owned it. Gotcha I mean this is.

C

I mean to me this is absolutely fascinating. I mean not just because it's part of our county's history.

C

But because it's history here with us- yes, um so if you can keep us updated on that, even if we don't.

C

Find anything I mean it would be fascinating to to know that this kind of stuff is going on in.

C

Our county yeah absolutely thank you and just a quick fun fact for the day, since you did mention.

D

George washington, he was in tawny town at the adam good tavern in uh july, 1st and 2nd of 1791.

D

So hopefully he stayed on that side of the county. We don't have to worry about this side, so around.

E

Yeah got a couple questions this is interesting, uh can can the the principal spillway and the amount.

E

Of water it can handle, can that be adjusted in preparation for a very heavy storm rain so well.

N

um Yes, and no so the the principal spillway um and the riser structure, no, you can't make any.

N

Adjustments on that, but there is what we call the lake drain. There is a pipe that connects to.

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um That's along the bottom of the of the reservoir that connects to that riser.

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Structure, that's controlled by a valve. That's on top of the um the structure in advance of a.

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Very large storm event: we could go out and open that drain and start and lower the water level.

N

Lower than what the principal structure controls that so, in anticipation of that large event, we.

N

Could lower the reservoir by a couple of feet to create additional capacity, and that has happened.

N

In the past, we have done that in the past when a hurricane has come your way. I think that would.

E

Be obviously I mean we'd be crazy not to do that right. So when, when hurricane kenny is bearing down.

E

On carroll county uh with uh 39, inches of rain or whatever, yes, the the other question I have is the.

E

um That this the site you mentioned, I mean- I guess this. I guess this is a rhetorical.

E

Question I mean we don't have any resources in the county to tell us what this is. I mean, and I know.

E

We've got a lot of you know: we've got historical societies, I think it might be in our best interest.

E

To take some effort to try to figure out what this is, I know that's not what your department does, but.

E

There's got to be some resources available for somebody to yeah, and that is now right.

N

Yeah- and that is part of the scope of the phase two assessment is- is doing research reaching out.

N

To those folks that that have these kind of historic documents and trying to ascertain.

N

Who owned that house? Where was it significant and so on, but but but can't we do that in that.

E

We can do that as a county, though right we mean we're talking about contracting out that work.

E

But I mean we don't have resources here in the county for somebody we don't have anybody here.

E

Not not carroll county government doesn't no, as you say, maybe the historical society there's.

A

I mean I know that property butts up against john buck's farm. I know that you know.

A

um But I mean I don't know if that's his property or it may be, I mean currently it's counties.

A

And county property, but I'm saying that county property may border his farm so, like you said at.

A

One time it may have been might have been yeah his farm. I I don't know. Ironically, I lived here at one.

E

Point and we backed up to pioneer run, but I was a little further north, so nobody in the county can.

E

Spend any time on this trying to figure out what that is, okay, and, thirdly,.

E

We I know we set aside some money for the piney run dam in the fy 24 budget. So I mean, are we.

E

Asking for a dip into general funds? No! No! This is all grant funds, no okay. This is a grant that would.

R

Work but that's nrcs: they define the requirements of the watershed study and what it is that we have.

N

To do to complete that it's a federal federal guidelines from our perspective, we've done.

N

Everything that we feel is necessary for the study and we're ready to move on. But we can't until nrcs.

N

Accepts the final report and they've said you have to do this additional work, which you said great as.

N

Long as you pay for it, if they were saying we had to pay for it, we would be having a very different.

N

Discussion about this and then but then on a page 11 where we're talking about the total cost, and I.

E

Know we're getting ahead of ourselves. I cannot recall exactly how much money we set aside in.

E

The fy 20 four budget for this, but does anybody recall I think it was? Was it eight? Was it five.

E

Well, it started off as 11 million it was in the capital budget, knowing that this was the.

R

The and that's for the the repairs or changes the modifications, I guess is the right word to the dam.

H

Okay, so we I'm sorry, I remember what the ultimate ended up to be yeah, so our and I.

N

Had to use the word hope, but what we anticipate is requesting these funds from nrcs, um but they.

N

Are not obligated to us yet, so our thought was a better course of action was to plan for the the.

N

Potential for having to spend this money with the anticipation that we would be requesting the grant.

N

Funding from nrcs and hopefully be successful in obtaining it, but plan for the worst. So that was.

S

The reason for the 11 million, of course, after the uh after the height of tick season, I'd like to go.

C

See this in person absolutely happy to take you out. The dam is really cool to see a walking path.

A

Oh I'm at the foundations, the the yeah, but I mean that's right off of the walking path, oh cool. It.

A

Looks like damn so um cool. Unfortunately, the trail stops when you get over the path over the dam. It.

A

Doesn't go all the way around the reservoir, it's like just no rate stops and you have to go up the.

A

Street and it leads you out to uh obreck but yeah cool yeah motion to approve the request.

C

To the natural resources, conservation service or atomic extension and funding increase of.

C

One hundred seventy thousand dollars, as well as acceptance of award for the piney, run watershed.

C

Plan second, I have a motion. I have a second. Is there any further discussion on this? She didn't.

A

Hear none all in favor all right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Let's now talk about.

A

World legacy program option purchased the john and kathy kugel property.

N

I'm going to bounce seats again musical chairs, musical chairs company exercises.

A

All right, okay- let's see here, I do this every time. So yes again we're we're here for a couple.

N

Of mag preservation projects and jp smith program manager will lead you through the discussion. It's.

A

Easiest, if you go to the bottom right corner, yeah bottom right isn't go over a little bit.

N

Oh up right there. Yes, just click on that thanks. I appreciate it. I don't know why it looks different.

T

Than it does in my office, I just went through this on a little thumb drive to make sure it was there.

T

All right good morning, commissioners um warning appreciate you guys and we're here today to have.

T

A couple final approvals, one through the rural legacy plan uh royal legacy program and one for.

T

The carroll county program we currently just went over the 78 000 acre milestone, so we are.

T

Currently, at 78 047 acres, so when we have plenty of farms that are that are in the process, and this.

T

Number will be growing quickly all right. The real legacy program is 100, funded by a state.

T

Grant from the department of natural resources, we have two rural legacy areas, a little pike.

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Creek world legacy area and the patapsco rural legacy area, we use a point space and appraisal.

T

To determine the fair market value of these properties- and there are no soil qualifications.

T

For world legacy program- and we can do small or large properties with the rural legacy program.

T

Today we are looking for final approval for the john and kathy.

T

Kugel property: this is for the upper patapsco world legacy program area.

T

Their property is located at 2070, cape horn, road in hampstead, 16.3 acres, and we.

T

Will be retiring three lot rights, the fair market value of the land was 77 828 dollars.

T

And 70 percent of that value will be 54 479.92, which will be the cost uh coming from the grant.

T

This is where the farm is located or the property is located right off of cape horn, road.

T

And this is how the farm fits into other preserved properties in the area.

T

We have plenty of preservation possible in that area as well.

T

The picture of the landscape.

T

So again, we're requesting final approval for john and kathy kugel at 2070 cape horn, road 16.3.

T

Acres at a cost of 54 479.92, which is 100 grant funded by the department of natural resources.

A

Okay, any questions on this discussion kenny. You want to take this one.

F

I move the board of commissioners exercise the option to purchase a.

F

Royal legacy program conservation, easement on the john and kathy google property in the.

F

Amount of fifty four thousand four hundred seventy nine dollars and ninety two cents.

F

A second I got a motion. I got a couple of seconds in discussion all in favor.

A

Aye okay: now, let's talk about the charles ireland and irma ireland property. Thank you, commissioners.

T

We're here for to request final approval for a carroll county applicant, charles ireland and irma.

T

Ireland, their farm is located at 632, silver, run valley, road in westminster, 115.2 acres, this farm.

T

Is in district one, we will be retiring, 18 lot, rights on this property, the fair market value.

T

Is estimated at one million 15 396 dollars, the cost of the county for this easement will be 710.

T

777.72 cents, seven, this is where the form two or twelve, the briefing paper says 12.. Let me go back.

A

72 cents, let's get the 72 approved and if it's, if it's 12, we save 60 cents.

T

So I apologize for that, that's just which is which go ahead. Sorry, thank you. This is where the farm is.

T

Located north and south of silver run valley road, uh it's several parcels that will be consolidated.

T

Here's where mr mrs, ireland's farm fits in with other preserved properties in the area.

T

This middle area of carroll county is we're getting a lot of action in this area. Recently.

C

Awesome there's some photos provided by the landowner.

T

Other picture from silver run valley, road.

T

Once again, we're asking for final approval for charles and irma ireland, property at 632, silver.

T

Run valley road in westminster, 115 acres, located in district, one, we're retiring 18 lot rights at a.

T

Cost of 710 777 dollars, 72 72 cents or 12.. Just in case we mentioned two different, we'll throw.

N

The 60 cents in, if need be there, you go we'll, take care of it. Land, investment. Yes, exactly motion to.

C

Exercise an option to purchase an easement on the charles l, ireland and emma v, ireland property in.

C

The amount of seven hundred ten thousand seven hundred seventy seven dollars and seventy two.

C

Cents a second, I have a motion. I have a second discussion on this all in favor all right.

T

Thank you just a couple, quick questions. One is: does this now bring us up to 78 200 acres? Well,.

T

These have not settled okay, yet okay um and they they will be settling shortly. So hopefully, the.

T

Next time we come, we can report more acres, but there it definitely will be going on. I mean we.

T

Have other things settling in between or just depends on when they settle, then the other is.

A

um I don't know if I talked to you directly. I know I talked to chris about.

A

um District five: there are properties down there um that could be eligible uh just.

A

Because of the property itself, yes, sir, outside of restrictions of designate growth there, but just.

A

The property self, if you can look at some of those um if there's interest, I'd, be interested to.

A

Either follow up with that by getting those properties outside out of the designated growth.

A

Areas and then moving forward or whatever you know, steps would be feasible. You know.

A

Form sure I just I I think, there's value in in looking into this. So okay, I agree. Okay, no.

A

Problem thanks. Thank you great job. Okay, thank you all. Thank you good marathon. Chris. Thank you.

B

Okay: let's talk about purchasing some body armor for the carroll county's sheriff office.

A

By our newest director, and that is director of department of public.

A

Safety, ms valerie hawkins, congratulations, congratulations and good morning. So thank you.

F

Okay watch what you wish for right. She just got it.

A

The vocabulary, okay, all right good morning again good morning, all right. The office of procurement.

K

In cooperation with the department of public safety, emergency management, question approval.

K

To purchase body armor vest for the carroll county sheriff's office from lawman supply in.

K

The amount of 68 415.36 this body armor, is being purchased through a pin prince george's county.

K

Contract which was competitively bid lawman supply discount, is forty percent. Forty seven percent off.

K

Retail price this purchase is proposed to be made using funding from the fiscal year 2020.

K

2021 and 2022 urban areas security initiative grants. No additional funds should be required.

A

Is it the same vests that are currently being used in the sheriff's department, good.

U

Morning, commissioners, these are not for patrol, so they're issued ongoing vests that they wear daily.

U

um Through our regular budget and they're on a replacement schedule, these are, I guess, would.

U

Say more of a specialty vest for certain units that need a different type of vest.

U

um Than the the traditional vest that the deputies wear every day so the last time they were replaced.

U

Through an ufc was in 2018 so they're due to replace they're on a similar five-year.

U

Schedule, but it's a handful of them, it's not for the entire office. It's for specialized units.

U

So we're up at that point where it's time to replace them again. What do you do with the old.

B

Vest it depends, they may use them for training if they have anybody else come on, but not wear.

U

Them out all right and keep them things like that yep they do have an expiration date. Yeah.

B

Okay motion to approve the purchase of body armor vest so almond supply in the amount.

C

Of 68 415.36 second got a motion. Guys second, is there discussion senior none.

A

All in favor all right, okay, thank you very much. Thank you very much. Let's request the.

A

Acceptance of maryland 911 funding for next-gen 9-1-1 continued improvements.

V

Commissioners, this motion or excuse me not this motion this uh this item and the next item are.

V

Related they go together, so the maryland 911 board recently awarded funding to carroll county.

V

For the proposed implementation of some network enhancements that are designed to increase the.

V

Resiliency of our next-gen 911 platform and the call routing capabilities that exist within our.

V

System, so this project is intended to provide dual network connections to both the primary.

V

And alternate public safety answering points or psaps for the county, so this first motion.

V

That we're requesting you to make is to request to accept the 9-1-1 board funding and then the.

V

Next item is the actual expense request to expend the funds, but accepting the so I see the first.

A

You know action, but there's not a dollar associated with the acceptance of the.

A

Proposed funding, so how much are we I I expect, but this is now an assumption that we are.

A

Accepting the proposed funding of 281 284.90, that's correct, commissioner, and that's simply.

V

An oversight in the briefing paper. Okay, so I think the county accepts the proposed funding.

A

Of 281 384.90 from the and maryland 911 board, as well as authorize the director of public safety.

B

To execute the psap dual circuits agreement with motorola solutions; second,.

A

Okay, I got a motion. I have a second. Is there any discussion on this seen here, not all in.

A

Favor all right! Okay, thank you, commissioner. Let's see how where you're going to spend it.

K

uh The office of procurement, in cooperation with the department of public safety request.

K

Your approval to have motorola solutions add one additional circuit to both the primary and.

K

Alternate public safety answering point sites. This design change will augment the county's.

K

9-1-1 call routing resilience, the cost is 281 384.90. This project will be paid from.

K

Grant project 36 2009, approved by the maryland 911 board and no additional fund should be necessary.

V

Commissioners, the next generation 9-1-1 platform itself is very resilient. Moving.

V

From an analog system, as was mentioned in uh well, mr christensen mentioned to the digital or.

V

Internet protocol ip based platform increased the resiliency of our system and also created.

V

Some redundancy in it, but there's always opportunities for improvement. This uh is a.

V

Result of regular and ongoing evaluation by motorola solutions and the department of public.

V

Safety, so it's simply an opportunity for improving the resiliency of the call routing between our.

V

Eznet provider, which is motorola solutions and our call centers themselves.

C

Motion to approve the next-gen 911 connectivity, improvements to motorola solutions incorporated.

C

In the amount of 281 384.90, second, I have a motion. I have a second any discussion on this.

A

Seen here, not all in favor, okay! Thank you, commissioners. Thank you. Thank you.

B

Okay: let's talk about public safety, training, center network cabling and security work.

C

Good morning, good morning, good morning, the office of procurement, in cooperation with.

K

The department of technology services request your approval to award the installation of card.

K

Access control, wireless access points, network, cabling and security cameras at.

K

The public safety training center to skyline technology solutions in the amount of eighty.

K

Five thousand eight hundred dollars and 56 cents, this equipment and service are being.

K

Purchased via a county competitively bid contract, which skyline was then awarded a term contract.

K

This amount is approved in the fiscal year 23 budget and no additional funds should be required.

W

So good morning, commissioners, the the existing network, infrastructure and access control of the.

W

Public safety training center had historically been installed and maintained by cc visa with.

W

The fire ems department- now you know using that facility, we are, we need to expand the.

W

County's network infrastructure to that site fully, so they can function throughout.

W

That site, so this project will, you know, convert the existing card access system.

W

To the counties genatex system, as well as upgrade all the network infrastructure to support county.

W

Wi-Fi county computers being able to connect to that network so and that would, in this particular.

W

Request for this project is for the administration building and the apparatus building. There are two.

W

Other buildings at that site, but they are not part of the scope of this particular project, yet.

B

A

um Any questions any okay motion to approve the network and physical security work purchased.

C

The skyline technology solutions in the amount of 85 800.56. Second, I have a motion.

A

I have a second and further discussion or any discussion seen here: none all in favor all right.

A

Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. Gentlemen. Okay, stay in local fiscal recovery fund, frf request.

C

Like a party just walked in perfect time,.

C

Good morning, everybody good morning, debbie standiford grant's office here with uh brian.

X

Bokey, director of public works, celine steckel, director of citizen services. We are here this.

X

Morning to discuss the family, shelter, relocation and renovation project, which is partially.

X

Partially funded through the frf grant, I can't believe I'm out of breath from just walking down.

X

The hall that's bad. I usually have a minute to catch my breath, but as you'll recall from our.

X

Presentation in may, the frf was forward funded and we are earning interest on those dollars.

X

To date, the board has used interest income for cost overruns for approved frf projects and, as.

X

You can see from the briefing paper the design costs for this project came in slightly higher.

X

Than anticipated, and with the addition of the 24 7 congregate shelter in this facility, the hvac.

X

May need to be reconfigured, so we are asking for funding to be moved from our accumulated.

X

Unallocated interest to this project, but to start we would like to give you just a brief look at.

X

This project and I'll, let celine take it from here. Okay- and I know you all recall that we were.

Y

Before you back in may, for the full frf update on may 11th, and when we were here, we did allude.

Y

To the fact that we wanted to come back before you once we had more information about the final.

Y

Cost estimates for some of the design pieces and that's why we're back here before you today, but.

Y

I do know that some of you were not privy to the presentation before, as you just started this year,.

Y

On the board- and I wanted to give you an overview of some of the information we shared and I believe.

Y

That pictures should say a thousand words and that's what we're going to show you today about.

Y

Our current state of the family, shelter and then our potential and the movement over to.

Y

The code location, where we plan to go with this so um the current carroll county, family, shelters.

Y

At 10 distillery drive it's on the fourth floor of a multi multi- human service agency, building.

Y

There are safety concerns with where it is located. There are ada compliance issues, there's inadequate.

Y

Space for the families that are located there, it is truly not a family, family, friendly environment.

Y

As far as there's no green space located there for the families for the children- and we we see that.

Y

On a daily basis, there's a lot of movement in the parking lot, with the children and and in in the.

Y

um In the paved locations as well, this family shelter has served 306, adults and.

Y

243 children over the last four years and it does typically operate with a wait list.

Y

This picture shows two places within the family shelter. You see the outside area.

Y

With the strollers and the bicycles, they have to be taken up the elevator when the children.

Y

Want to use them and back down, so it's not an ideal location for that and then also there's.

Y

Duct work that hangs into the play and um uh congregate locations in the shelter as well.

Y

The bedrooms also have duct work that goes through them, as you can see it on the picture here on the.

Y

Left and then also there's only partial walls in the family shelter. As far as the bedrooms.

Y

So during covid this was an issue and continues to be it's difficult to contain germs. It's also.

Y

Difficult when you have young children or infants that are in shelter, because the noise obviously.

Y

Carries throughout the bathroom facilities for up to seven, families can include up to 23 to 27.

Y

Individuals that will be staying in shelter at one time. We have two bathrooms and then one tub.

Y

And one shower stall, so just imagine that's kind of the equivalent of two full bathrooms.

Y

For 20 27 people, potentially in a 24-hour facility, it's it's not adequate. We also have.

Y

Kitchen and laundry for up to seven families and you see pictures of the facilities there for that.

Y

So we acquired the cove in 2021, which is on three acres of flat land. It's a one-story building.

Y

Approximately sixteen thousand square feet of the building, there's 45 parking spaces.

Y

There on the property, the drop-off there's a drop-off loop with a canopy.

Y

In the front of the building, there's also a rear open space, there's rear doors that enter.

Y

Into a beautiful open, green space that could be a community garden additional play area and.

Y

There's also outdoor dining areas and gathering space that exists immediately outside that back.

Y

Door from a kitchen, this property is also an ideal space, because it's adjacent to existing.

Y

Existing shelters so the night by night and the adult only shelter are also on the same campus.

Y

And it's also adjacent to the westminster senior center, which offers opportunities for us to have.

Y

Intergenerational programming, as well as additional parking potential if.

Y

We wanted to develop additional parking spaces on the other side.

Y

So this is what we've um this is the the stoner avenue side of the cove, as you can see it a lot.

Y

Of green space, I love. I love that this is there, especially in the summers because, as you know,.

Y

The kids are out of school in the summer, which creates a lot of time for the youth to be in our.

Y

Shelters or around the shelters can I ask really who I apologize for what does cove stand for.

Y

I was getting them. Oh I'm! Sorry, that's great to jump ahead with me. It's like it's like we.

Y

Planned this, it's the center for opportunity, value and empowerment center for opportunity.

C

Value and empowerment, empowerment, thank you and um just just if, um if the pick this powerpoint.

S

Is in your binder, it just was put misfiled under the next item. Under the dpw item. The first dpwi.

S

Open, so if you wanted to follow along in your book cool just not in the right section, sorry thank you.

Y

So the other piece of the co visit it offers additional space. As you know, we have moved some.

Y

Of our aging staff offices into the office area of the cove, it also has an area that we're going to.

Y

Be renovating that can be a beautiful conference room for anyone. Any other agencies across the.

Y

County to utilize as well, it also already has a built-in kitchen, which would be part of the family.

Y

Shelter side of the property which we just need to do minor renovations to to improve that area.

Y

So the goals for the county office space, as I said, are the staff offices and the conference.

Y

Space and then the goals for the family, shelter are that we would have private bedrooms for eight.

Y

To ten families that would be flexible enough to serve larger families if needed. We also would.

Y

Have space to serve homeless, youth, it would be ada compliant with bathrooms and tubs enough of.

Y

Them that really would um be able to accommodate everyone in a comfortable way. Laundry facilities.

Y

For multi-family use kitchen with multiple food prep areas, space for computer computers and.

Y

Tutors fencing for privacy and security and then also outdoor space for play, areas and gardening.

Y

um I do want to say that the family shelter has operated a distillery for over 30 years.

Y

And obviously the the space at one time was was great. If we didn't have a family.

Y

Shelter but we are at a wonderful. We have a wonderful opportunity opportunity now.

Y

To to move into this enhanced space, which will be much more accommodating for folks.

Y

Did you have any questions about either either property? What's the uh what's the.

D

Timeline with the cove for families and individuals be able to move in over there.

X

It really depends on how fast we move on design we were, and we have applied for our first grant.

X

Which was the state shelter grant? I don't know if this was under this board or the previous board. We.

X

Were awarded a conditional letter of intent for 2 million of the renovation cost um so right now.

X

We're asking them to defer that until 2025, so if at the very earliest we could start construction.

X

In january of 26, at this point we have a couple of other grants that we need to apply for, but we need.

X

Design complete before we do those applications. Okay. So if we started construction in 20 january.

X

26, maybe by the end of 26, we would be able to occupy the shelter. Thank you, yeah we're.

P

Estimating about 13 months for construction and that's in parallel to the work in the conference.

P

Room and some upgrades to the office and the site improvements um some paving ada work, sidewalk work.

C

And the amount that you're requesting is coming out of unallocated income.

C

Interesting interesting, I apologize so right now we have a little bit more than this, but I did the.

X

Briefing paper and then they posted another another um interest, um a monthly interest.

X

Payment to this project, but right at the time of the briefing paper we had unallocated 686.

X

Thousand three hundred and thirty six dollars available to use um and you're comfortable.

C

With the amount being taken out of this you're comfortable you, you still have enough flexibility.

C

To do other things if an emergency comes up or yes and we are earning about a hundred and thirty.

X

Thousand dollars a month um right now and interest, so I do think that, given the projects given that.

X

We are only using the interest income for existing projects. I think that we will be in good shape.

C

Motion to direct I'm sorry, no go ahead. Do you want to make the motion? I just had a quick question.

D

Well, I apologize what was that total again with six hundred and eighty six thousand six? Eighty.

X

Six three thirty six, and that is also on your briefing paper under the budget. Okay, thank you.

X

Is what was currently unallocated we had allocated about? I think 250 or so thousand to um the one of.

X

The broadband county broadband projects to add the hat baker firearms facility and the linton.

X

Tower to run broadband um connections to those two: that's the only use of the interest income to date.

X

Other than this request, commissioner, gordon did you want to make the motion I can, if you want, I.

D

Moved the board of county commissioners direct staff to add 112 898 in the frf interest income.

D

To the family, shelter design project. Second, I have a motion. I have a second any discussion seen here.

A

None all in favor, aye, aye, aye, okay, thank you uh celine. Just I gave you a shout out during prairie.

A

Carroll we're going to veterans programs, you know you gina bobby rick, the whole vso structure.

A

um I appreciate it personally for my for me and my family, but I was highlighting the importance.

A

Of and and supposed to or you know it's a and structure in our community, you know, let's put.

A

These organizations together and uh instead of being exclusive, so I just appreciate your.

A

Efforts in doing that with the veterans, advisory council and everything else so.

A

Okay, so you take that back to your team, we'll do I appreciate it thanks. Thank you. Thank you.

B

Okay: let's talk about.

A

um Did that one architectural engineering design for family shelter, didn't we just do that? Just.

S

Got money for it now we have to spend well now we gotta spend it. Oh, I see same kind of things. Yeah.

B

Okay, all right, I'm here for the long haul. Now the office of procurement in cooperation with.

K

The bureau of building construction received proposals for the architectural and engineering.

K

Design services for the family, shelter space located at 115, stoner avenue in westminster.

K

This was a two-step process whereby the county received 13 statement of qualification and a short.

K

Listed the top three highest ranked firms after responding to the full request for proposals, the.

K

Highest ranked firm was murphy and didn't hey for architects. The cost is 337 898 dollars per your.

K

Prior approval monies have now been appropriated within the fiscal year 23 budget for this project.

P

And we'll be happy to answer any questions on the qualifications or scope of work for this foreign.

A

Okay, I move that the board of commissioners award the contract for the architectural and engineering.

D

Design services for the family, shelter space to murphy and didn't hafer architects at the.

D

Cost of 337 898. Second, okay: I have a motion. I have a second name discussion on this.

A

Seen here, none all in favor all right, okay! Thank you very much.

A

Okay, let's talk about kohler diesel generator well now, you're running the marathon yeah he's.

A

He's here for the rest, I'm here for the rest of it uh yeah. You are more commissioners good morning.

K

The office of procurement and cooperation with the bureau of facilities request.

K

Your approval to award the purchase and installation of one kohler diesel generator.

K

Model 40 re or zk and 40 kilowatt transfer switch to fidelity power systems in the amount of 56 172.

K

Dollars this unit will be installed at the cherrytown tower on cherrytown road voting.

K

District one color power systems was awarded a competitively bid contract through sourcewell.

K

Which fidelity is an authorized dealer? This amount is approved in the fiscal year 23 budget.

K

And no additional fund should be required. Our commissioners, this tower site, plays an important.

Z

Role for our communication infrastructure throughout the county, due to the importance.

Z

Of the county operation, it's critical that this generator replacement scheduled as followed this.

Z

Replacement does fall within our capital project plan for the next eight years out.

Z

So I'm here to answer any questions you have regarding this generator replacement. If any.

A

Any questions any issues, okay, motion to approve the purchase and installation of one color diesel.

C

Generator for the cherry town tower cherry town tower to fidelity power systems in the amount.

C

Of fifty six thousand one hundred seventy two dollars see that five times faster. I know right.

A

Okay motion second in discussion, seen here and done all in favor. Thank you. Thank you. Absolutely.

A

Okay: let's talk about the northern landfill transfer station floor replacement.

A

Good morning, mr engel good morning, all right.

K

The office of procurement, in cooperation with the bureau of solid waste requests your approval to.

K

Award the design services for the northern landfill transfer station floor replacement.

H

To geocentec consultants of columbia maryland and the base amount of fifty eight thousand.

K

Five hundred forty dollars, plus a fiscal year, 24 contract rate increase allowance.

K

The northeast maryland waste disposal authority competitively bid for all on-call engineering.

K

Services, the county's agreement with the authority allows us to request proposals from the firms that.

K

Were rewarded contracts, the requests for proposals were sent to five firms and two.

K

Responded: this project is in the solid waste cip budget, and no additional funds should be needed.

AA

Okay good morning, commissioners, as noted, replacement of the waste handling side tipping.

AA

Floor at the northern landfill transfer station is an approved cip project and it's necessary due to.

AA

The continued degradation of the concrete floor. I've got one picture up now and we'll go through.

AA

A couple more at the end, through our membership in the northeast maryland authority. As noted, we.

AA

Solicited for the design, construction, rfp, prep and construction inspection services for this.

AA

Project, this is just so. This is just the design phase and then some construction management and.

AA

Cqa during the construction, uh based on the review of the proposals, beer of solid.

AA

Waste and northeast authority staff recommended selection of geosintech consultants for this work.

AA

Geosentec also provided design and construction services from when the transfer station or half.

AA

The transfer station floor is replaced back in 2009, so they do have kind of a home field.

AA

Advantage they're very very familiar with our our project here. If the selection is approved.

AA

The northeast authority will issue a work order to geocentec under the existing on-call contract.

AA

I again is noted, given that the project will commence in fiscal 24., the contract value would.

AA

Be adjusted to reflect the pending rate increase of forty four hundred and sixty dollars set to go.

AA

Into effect july, 1st of 2023, you know thus we're requesting approval for sixty three thousand.

AA

Dollars for this part of the project, it is cip, project 6543 and the total project, including.

AA

Construction is four hundred ten thousand dollars uh just for uh background, because four of you.

AA

Were not here when this project was initiated? The picture that's on the screen currently was.

AA

Taken inside left-hand side of our transfer station, this is the waste tipping floor side.

AA

The other half of the building is for recyclables. The building again is was built originally in 1999.

AA

uh The left two bays, which are the left two sections in this picture, are original uh to that.

AA

Building they're eight inches of concrete with rebar the right hand, two bays were replaced.

AA

In 2009, because mostly that's where the activity occurs, so they took a pretty good beating over the.

AA

First 10 years and matt's controlling the uh the slideshow here, so if he could go to the next one.

AA

I think he's controlling it. There we go. This is a view looking backwards again.

AA

Standing from where the excavator sits that loads, the trailers that you can see in the.

AA

Background there, a darker area, that's where the majority of this damage is next slide. Please.

AA

There we go again. This is primarily base one and two the original floor. The eight.

AA

Inches of concrete is worn down to something in the neighborhood of four. You can see the.

AA

Top of some rebar there in the picture as well, uh you can also see ground if we dug.

AA

Deep enough, we've patched this area a couple of times over the last few years.

AA

It's just to the point where it's not worth patching anymore, that's kind of like putting.

AA

Bondo on a car you run out of out of metal no place left to put the bondo uh next picture.

AA

Now this is the right hand, two bays. This was the area that was replaced in 2009. It was replaced.

AA

With eight inches of 6000 psi, concrete steel, fiber reinforcement, so no rebar the floors held.

AA

Up, amazingly well since that time, but it does get abraded, it does get worn and where the excavator.

AA

Sits, the eight inches is probably down to about five or six right now we did have a discussion.

AA

About resurfacing that area and replacing the rest, but since we don't know, what's going on.

AA

With the sub base below it, where it's been broken up for a while, that sub base could be saturated.

AA

Everybody just agrees that it's probably best one time take it all out and replace it all.

AA

With something like is shown in that slide, so that's what this project again is just for the.

AA

Design primarily for the design phase and again construction quality assurance when the project.

AA

Kicks off and preparation of the bid documents as well, and if you have any questions we can answer.

A

Any questions any discussion: okay, motion to award the contract for the northern landfill.

C

Transfer station floor design services, the geosen tech consultants in the amount of sixty three.

C

Thousand dollars to reflect the pending fiscal year, 24 contract rate adjustment. Second, I got.

A

A motion I got a second all in favor, aye, aye. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.

A

Okay: let's talk about the installation of walkway lighting at the farm museum.

K

I'm taking care of carries as well she's on vacation this week, so I'm I'm it. The office.

K

Of procurement and cooperation with the bureau of building construction request, your approval.

K

For the installation of the pole, lighting at the carroll county farm museum in the amount.

K

Of forty seven thousand eight hundred thirty two dollars and zero cents to eastern sales and.

K

Engineering company incorporated this purchase has been made through charles county contract.

K

Rfq 20-19 that was competitively bid. This amount is within the approved budget.

B

Okay good morning, commissioners, good morning.

AB

Thank you for your time this morning I know you've had a busy agenda, um as as ryan said,.

AB

This this request is to for the installation of pathway lighting at the farm museum from the main.

AB

Entrance to the property up to what they refer to as the wedding barn and with the installation.

AB

Of these lights, a it'll provide much better safety for those folks that are there when the.

AB

Hours change it'll allow weddings to occur when the time changes in in in the dark time of the.

AB

Year so the polls are on their way from the for delivery and we're hoping for installation in july.

AB

If at all possible, so just pending the shipping schedules and as ryan said, this is within our our.

AB

Budget and don't request any additional funds and happy to answer any questions you may have cool.

A

Just um joe does the farm museum have a a priority list of things that they want to accomplish as far.

A

As purchases at the museum, there are a couple of things at the top of the list. One of them.

C

Was having the bathrooms upgraded that we approved with the previous budget? Lighting was one of them.

C

Paving the parking lot as a whole was another one. I know they've been having some issues with water.

C

Flow down the the course of the parking lot, but uh primarily those three things: the bathrooms, the.

C

The lighting and the parking lot? Okay, because it's always a challenge to me sometimes well sometimes.

A

Oh and the fence, I'm sorry, you get the good idea of the ferry you get. The good idea is just coming.

A

Hey what about this? What about this as opposed to documenting these, are the priorities we want.

A

To accomplish over the next few years and lighting being one of them, like you said, I was just curious.

C

Oh and the fencing too, that we took care of a couple a couple months: back: yep, okay, cool.

C

Motion to award the installation of walkway lighting at the carroll county farm museum to.

C

Eastern sales and engineering company incorporated in the amount of 47 832 dollars a second. I got.

A

A motion got a second any discussion seen here, none all in favor, aye. Okay, thank you.

AB

Commissioners, thank you appreciate your time. Let's talk about the otterdale mill road bridge, repair.

H

Morning, yeah very nice time.

K

All right, the office of procurement, in cooperation with the bureau of engineering request, your.

K

Approval to award a contract to concrete general incorporated in the amount of 157.

K

426.88, concrete general incorporated was awarded a contract which was competitively with the maryland.

K

Department of transportation and state highways administration, the county, will piggyback off.

K

This contract for the repair work. The amount is within the adopted budget good morning, otterdale.

AC

Mill road district 1 structure was built in 1930 with and reconstructed in 1982. during a.

AC

Recent inspection, the inspecting engineer, noted a failure of the offset brackets and issued a.

AC

Letter of concern to us and maryland department of transportation, there are 48 offset brackets.

AC

Which attach a traffic barrier post to the structure, superstructure beams of the structure.

AC

This work will include removing and replacing all the brackets reattaching a traffic barrier post.

AC

And performing the necessary traffic control, it's expected. The structure will remain open with the.

AC

One lane traffic they'll use a snooper truck to get to the work on the side of the bridge concrete.

AC

General has completed bridge work for us in the past, as was noted that the contract we're using is.

AC

A maryland department, transportation contract for structural repairs, exactly what we're doing here.

AC

So if you have any questions, do do you guys in-house do the inspection or is.

F

That a consultant, it's a consultant through the maryland department of transportation.

A

Okay, any other discussion.

C

Motion to award the contract of concrete general incorporated for the otterdale mill road bridge.

C

Repair in the amount of 157 426.88 cents, a second, I got a motion got second seen here. No discussion.

A

All in favor all right, okay, thank you for coming. Thank you, matt! Do we have anybody on on the phone.

A

Okay, thank you very much open admin. Anything on your minds, I I was gonna, say I have a few things.

A

One is, we are scheduled to have a work session uh dealing with ag.

A

Is that you know next thursday next thursday? The purpose of that are there issues that we.

A

Want to address during that work session, if there are great, we maintain it. If not, you know, let's.

A

Take a look at that. You know, I just want to make sure it's value for all um yeah. There is mako.

A

Legislative work sessions are starting and uh it's important that we voice our issues, because those.

A

Are the issues that we bring to the administration for well, the delegation to them to to the.

A

Senate and delegates saying these are the issues that are important to us for them to cons. You know.

A

You know consider obviously blueprint cannabis. We've talked about those, but if there are other.

A

Legislative issues um that we want to forward, please let me know I mean this is not you know.

A

I'm representing us, it's not me at a table representing me, but I want to make sure that.

A

I capture our intent in moving forward so that that's really along with that um and you you guys.

F

Have all probably heard some of our delegations say it, so many people wait until december, even.

F

To say, I'd really like to see this bill, or- or I have comments on this and they don't have.

F

Time to get the stuff together, and particularly if we're looking at grants or or anything like.

F

That, if they get to physically see it, they can fight better for it. So yeah the the sooners yeah.

F

Better than later absolutely sooners, definitely especially if we're talking about projects they.

A

We want them to champion some uh bond bills for dollars, whether it's american legion or hampstead.

A

Or wherever you know that we think may be a good idea, the playgrounds these are. You know, ideas.

A

Keep keep it, you know, keep it relevant to our delegation. It's a good way of saying that I think.

C

um So, do you want us to bring these up in in a session, or do you want us to email you or what's.

C

The no not not email me email us um yeah, and uh we can any way you want. I haven't really figured it.

A

Out past what I'm saying right now, I'm just saying: what's on my mind, um you know normally in august.

R

um We we bring up legislative initiatives um and um I know and mako I'm going to a meeting.

A

A board meeting- and I just don't know if it's on a wednesday afternoon or thursday um that may be.

A

Time so, prior to that, um and they originally had the legislative committee meeting as early as this.

F

Week, they've backed it up to july and they might have backed it up a second time. I can't remember.

F

But I just you know honestly, I just want to be more inclusive. I want to well not more. I.

A

Apologize, I want to be inclusive uh to ensure that all our voices are heard on what we want to share.

A

um You know we have like roberta said, and- and this is also for the community knowing these are.

A

The issues that's in front of us uh work sessions regarding budget. You know ensuring that we start.

A

Shaping that we have holes on all our calendars, but how we want to shape that moving forward.

A

Through the summer so put a little meat on the bones, I think the bones are out there as far as.

A

The schedule now he's got to put the meat on it, and um you know it doesn't have to be open.

A

Session issues I mean, but it's really good, for I believe for our county, our community to know.

A

These are the things that we're dealing with over summer. It doesn't mean that we're just stopping.

A

However, stopping july 6th uh right now open session has nothing scheduled on it july. 4Th.

A

Is a tuesday july 6 is thursday. We can make a determination whether we want to continue with.

A

July 6 in open session, or my recommendation is not having open session on july 6th. We have a heavy.

A

Open session on july june- 29th, I think, is the one before, um but if we can make that determination.

A

That would be a good thing um whether we want to have a july 6 open session or not so.

C

I'm okay with foregoing it. I mean not having it. Okay, any other thoughts on that. I can hear.

E

I agree: okay, so that made that easy- um and I apologize was there any other open admin. Yes,.

S

We talked about this briefly, there's a resolution that the board had signed previously, that, in my.

R

Absence the sort of the line of succession when I'm not around and now that we have.

R

The new position of deputy county administrator- that's just updated that so that, in my absence.

R

It would be the deputy county administrator and then then the other two positions would be third.

R

And fourth, so asking the board to to sign this, and it has no, you know not no, not trusting a man.

A

Wearing a salmon color tie or whatever color, that is, I mean that has nothing to do with it.

A

Right, I was waiting for somebody to mention that you have confidence in a salmon pink.

A

It does feel rather demoted, but I think I've been devoted to the designated survivor. Remember that.

D

We'll get the bunker ready, I feel like it's that pink salmon can and that's.

A

What comes out of it? So, okay um or tim, oh, don't go there one and one come on up.

A

Hello wanda hello, good morning, okay june 26th. We have nothing scheduled. Neither do we have.

A

Anything she could run 27th june 28th, there's a virtual planning and zoning commission um at.

A

6 pm, I heard the last one went pretty long and a lot of attention on it. Yes, it's so.

A

um 7 p.m: esac, commissioner garen will be attending on thursday june 29th.

A

We start with 9 a.m: open session. Let's see proposed ordinance amending chapter 94.

A

Do we know what chapter 94 is is at the trails? Is that the trails, the e-bikes okay? So that's the.

A

The ordinance regarding the it's the park orange right, so, okay,.

A

um And then we go into discussion decision on the water and sewer triangle update.

A

Then carroll county workforce development, fy24 planning year 23 grants.

A

You're on that subject, she has invited us to visit and I don't know whether um oh heather.

F

You know again whether we want to try to do something as a group or just each go whenever.

R

I think just each of you go when it's convenient, that's the easiest right going in individual.

A

Repairs is always a yeah, I think, um and you're talking about heather powell right. Yes, okay,.

A

Then we're going to have a freedom, district, water treatment, plant, harmonic, filter and transformer.

F

That sounds, exciting, sounds kind of 19., maybe just harmonious. I don't know, but harmonic filter and.

A

Then inspection, services of maryland, 851, springfield water and sewer improvements.

A

They just had a water main break on main street last week and was a mess. So hopefully that's all.

A

Fixed up because they do have a saturday this it's been a second right, yep yeah next saturday.

A

um Then building code updates discussion uh court, smart support services from our I.t folks annual.

A

Maintenance support and life cycle management of the motorola public safety, motorola radio systems.

A

Maintenance support and upkeep of the central maryland area, radio communication network c mark.

A

And then medical director for the department of fire ems renewal.

A

Okay, at 1 pm, we are scheduled to go into a work session on agricultural zone zone.

A

Ordinance- and we just have to determine again if there's enough may not mean on.

A

The bones that's great: if not, let's determine whether we want to continue with that or not.

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Friday, nothing scheduled saturday. There have been some emails going back and forth on on topics. Yes,.

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And yeah go ahead. I'm sorry go ahead. I personally think after without getting into detail right now,.

D

But after planning and zoning the other day, I think there was enough that kind of fell into that category. It might be ideal for us to look at that. Okay cool, so we'll maintain it at 1pm.

A

On saturday, uh excuse me july: first there's a sykesville. Let freedom ring parade. I will be.

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Attending and participating because I get to ride in a really cool convertible uh audrey.

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And ice has a lot of fun and then I'll have the podcast the next day and I'll talk about.

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The sykesville freedom ring parade now we'll see what I talk about on the following week.

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An extremely busy week monday, nothing scheduled tuesday, happy fourth of july. Nothing scheduled.

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Federal holiday, the offices will be closed wednesday july 5th. Nothing scheduled thursday.

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July 6th, we determined that we will not have open session friday 7th saturday 8th, nothing scheduled.

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And commissioner vigliati will talk about all the things that nothing was scheduled on on july, 9th.

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I'll have to be cumulative for the entire summer. Thus far any thing I miss wanda.

F

um Speaking of podcast and commissioner weaver evidently did this invited people to do it with.

F

Him yeah and- and I did say something at our esac meeting and they are going to attend my.

F

Next one- and I just not that commissioner weaver is somebody to follow, but absolutely not, but but.

F

If you do, you fall over them because he's kind of slow and yeah I've had uh I've had.

A

The sheriff I've had others, also who's going to be your who's going to be your guest. Your.

E

Podcast guest, do you know yet the entire group number just I'd have to look at the email for.

F

Sure, because, and we even talked about and which- which is another option too, I should mention we.

F

Talked about the date and time and those guys can patch it together. If you want somebody and.

F

They can't come in the same day you're here you can kind of introduce them and have them patch.

F

It in but yeah I'd have to look at the email. I'm sorry, that's a good idea. Okay, anything else.

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Anything else for the group. I need a motion to adjourn so moved. Second, all in favor, aye.

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