Carroll County, MD Board of County Commissioners Open Sessions, 15 Dec 2022

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Good morning it is uh thursday december 15th open session. uh Hopefully everybody got to where they.

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Need to go safely and uh again, thank you so much to uh our facilities and road crews for being out.

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There allowing us to be safe in our community um just to let you know they were out at one.

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In the morning uh doing phase two of the roads, and then facilities was out there at five. This.

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Morning, ensuring that we're able to go in and out of our uh county facilities safely so before.

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We get started as always, why don't we uh stand and pledge of allegiance and a moment of silence.

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For which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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As always, let's uh start with priority carol and we will not be starting with district one, but just.

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Let you know uh so, let's start with district four, mr gearing sure. Thank you. Thank you. uh Just an.

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Opportunity to talk a little bit about what's going on in the uh the southern part of the.

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County uh this, the santa runs the winfield fire department, continue to the 18th and please check.

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Out their website and while you're there check out the uh the cash and gun calendar to help out.

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With their fundraising uh and the mount airy, fire department has initiated their santa runs as well.

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And those will go through the 17th, so go ahead and check the website see when they're coming to your.

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Neighborhood and their breakfast is this sunday from 7 to 11 30. So if you're in the area, please.

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Attend that uh you'll you'll see me there and the train garden that the train gardens back at the.

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Mount airy fire hall and it's in the lower level there, every saturday sunday from from 12 to 5.

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That's all I have okay, mr gordon, thank you. As many of us know, monday was a tragic day.

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In westminster, with a fire on main street that caused the loss of whites, bikes owner bradley.

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White and his dog penny he's been a significant fixture in the community for decades. 30 residents.

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Of the apartments in the building were displaced but are safe and one firefighter was injured and.

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Admitted for monitoring, I spoke with misty bruce the executive director of red cross.

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Monday morning, who informed me that they were on the scene and assisting residents both with food.

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And other aid after the fire, I'd like to make a sincere thank you to men, women of both fire.

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Ems and law enforcement for their valuable work on the scene, which also included pennsylvania.

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Fire and ems, the joint cairo in baltimore counties in that situation. I also would like.

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To thank chick-fil-a and bj wholesale club for donating food after the fire, their generosity.

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Is greatly appreciated at this time of need it's one thing we do really well in carroll.

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County as we we come together, and you know in a sad that it takes a tragic situation.

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Like this to occur, but it's always good to see that we as a community rally around each other.

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I just ask that everybody, please keep the white family and those affected in their thoughts and.

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Also suggest perhaps maybe reaching out to the red cross or any other organizations to see if.

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There's any way to help those that have been displaced from this event on monday. Thank you.

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Okay, I appreciate that um mr kyler thank you um as, as with everyone setting up here, it's kind of been.

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Busy time since last week and a lot to learn and a lot to do and and I appreciate everybody's support.

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And help um a couple of us went to the maryland municipal league quarterly meeting and that.

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Was great to see a number of the mayors and town staff and uh I'll interject, uh at least during the.

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Winter of some personal stuff, I went to winners mill, wrestling duels uh friday and saturday and.

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It was interesting, um it's a network in that, but um how many familiar faces you see, but it would.

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Be like a lansdowne wrestler who's now, a coach at howard and the baltimore city guy. That's now.

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A coach in in arundel county, but you see a lot of good faces, and that was great well saturday. I took.

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A break from wrestling and we did a rehearsal at emmanuel, lutheran church for reeves across america.

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And uh that's a great event, I don't know how many do rehearsals they might have thought. I.

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Needed it, but uh I I think it's and- and you may know better, I think it's in the high 30s now 38.

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Yeah 38 churches and opportunities to be part of that within carroll, county and uh emmanuel.

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Lutheran itself in manchester has a breakfast that morning from seven to eleven, I think.

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It's eight bucks and then that's immediately followed by the wreaths across america. I think.

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We have 350 reefs to distribute between uh the the old, we call it. The old cemetery and the new.

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Cemetery, so I encourage everybody to take part of that. That's a that's a great event.

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um Veteran or not veteran, it's interesting, uh some of the younger guys that come and want to.

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Do reeves and there's plenty of opportunity with 350 that weren't veterans, but but really want to.

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Be part of it, tuesday, I'll watch the planning commission meeting and, and they did a great job.

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And with some interesting topics and some a lot of public comment and- and it was interesting to.

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Just see how that all works- and uh it was nice to see compared to my experience on the board of ed.

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You put up a three-minute timer and people kind of don't care and you've really gotta, encourage them.

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To stop, but so it's nice to see that universal um went to the carroll community college board of.

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Trustees meeting last night, that was great a great evening and they they've got such a great, diverse.

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But good people bored there and and they had a lot of staff, a lot of presentations. And I.

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Think most people know what that facility does for carroll county. But it's awesome.

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um And again, I want to encourage everybody to attend reese across america. If you can.

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And I want to thank babylon vaults for all they do to make that happen, and they seem.

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To be encouraging more growth, they want to do more and more so that's great. Thank you.

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All right, although I said he wasn't going to be first second, I guess he'll be fourth, mr vigliotti.

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What's on your mind, thank you, mr rothstein. I so, along with a number of us, I also attended.

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The maryland municipal league quarterly chapter dinner in sykesville at main street bistro. It was.

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Delicious food and I want to thank mayor link and their council for hosting, and I think it's also.

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Been important to keep a strong relationship with our towns and our cities, I also attended the tawny.

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Town business breakfast uh friday and it's awesome to keep up with the things going on there and.

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With local businesses and all the good causes and events that they themselves are helping to support.

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Through the holiday season this week I attended the farm museum board meeting. All the members are.

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Incredibly, wonderful people, they have a strong passion for the county and for the history of.

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Farming and it matters so much not only to our heritage as a farming county, but where we are now.

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With agriculture being our number one industry- and you know, people who visit obviously can.

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Understand the past and how we came to be where we are and how difficult things were for farmers even.

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Just a century ago, uh so jane sewell, who uh who runs things there now, has already been making a.

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Tremendous difference so the first thing that she showed me when I got there uh for the meeting was.

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This uh large sign that they had just erected- and uh this was a sign that had been thrown.

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Aside somewhere, it had been slated to be thrown out and internally they restored the sign. They.

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Repainted it they put it back up, it's a beautiful sign, it's for horse trails or horse rides or.

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Something but it saved thousands of dollars doing this and it's little things like that.

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That end up adding up uh the farm board was also excited that they have secured a grant to purchase.

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A pig and three chickens to help round out the complements of animals who reside there. And if I.

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Remember correctly, the pig will be here sometime in march, give or take, and we are all invited to.

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Attend the arrival of the pig, so everybody keep that in mind. This is not a live pick.

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No, it is it is, it is real pig. No, no. No, it's it's a uh a static display in the form where there's.

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Other animals, I was under the oppression, it was a real pig, a heart, but that's right.

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We'll find out yeah and don't forget the three chickens. I will never forget the three chickens.

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I also attended the board of education meeting last night between the board members, the.

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Superintendent, the student representative, the staff administrators and the teachers who are.

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Presents you know they take what they do extremely seriously and professionally, and it really was a.

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Pleasure to to watch them in action, they really do value our students, above all else, and those.

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On the board, you know in particular, really do take their duties uh seriously. So a few highlights from.

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The board of education meeting marcia herbert has been elected president of the board tyra battaglia.

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Is vice president and congratulations to them some of the interesting things I learned last.

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Night, the tech center, which offers 30 programs for students, 100 of them, have relationships with.

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Businesses and employers uh beyond the the center. uh This is uh certainly going to be of interesting.

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Note to everybody the stop arm enforcement program for the school buses that the county, the sheriff.

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And the board of education, drivers and others have have put into effect, have already made a.

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Serious difference uh in october 2021 there were 914 violations in october this year there were.

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642 violations and in november there were 611. So there is a steady decline in the number of.

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Violations- and so we are hoping that uh you know these- these violations do continue to decrease.

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uh There was some concern expressed about potential mandates from the state requiring the.

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Use of electric buses. I found out last night that these buses get only 80 to 100 miles per charge.

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And for a county like ours that is not conducive to the the roads that we have and, in addition to.

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That the buses cost between 350 and 400 000 each. So I think that, as things you know come.

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To pass we're going to have to make our voices heard that this is not the right path for us to.

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Take we'll have to have the board of educations back as far as that's concerned, blueprints also.

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Continues to be a serious concern for the board of education, everyone's working hard to prepare for.

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That there is a rising concern about bullying and vice president battaglia is beginning an effort to.

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Counter that and more details will be forthcoming on that locally mayor newell roop from new windsor.

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Wanted to share that he has some positive news at a water line. Replacement on route 31 is going to.

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Be occurring as part of their streetscape project, which should begin when the weather improves union.

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Bridge councilwoman, laura conaway, also shared some exciting news, and that is that santa claus.

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Will be visiting union bridge on monday december 19th and he will be escorted by the awesome union.

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Bridge fire company on an engine, they will also be hosting a new year's eve party on their carnival.

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Grounds on december 31st it's going to feature live music and a fireworks display. It will begin.

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At seven o'clock p.m, if anybody's interested and of course, this week in tawny, town santa claus.

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Is making the rounds with our awesome volunteer fire company there? And last but not least, I want.

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To say, thank you to all the county crews who have been out in the midst of this weather, keeping the.

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Roads clear for us, so that's all for me! Thank you. Okay, just remember it's a formal announce these.

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Santa claus, because I know these santa claus was also down in eldersburg on a fire truck.

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The other day, so he's very, very busy yeah time does not matter to santa claus. No, and we, I know.

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Santa claus made a lot of phone calls to a lot of kids last week right mr dickett's, and that was a.

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Lot of fun uh about 350 kids um in the county uh were had the opportunity to have a conversation.

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With santa claus and uh share what they wanted or sometimes didn't want for the for christmas.

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um Reach across america is very important in 2018 carroll, county babylon, vault sponsors it and there.

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Was about eight or nine cemeteries? Last year there was about 30. uh this year. I believe there's 38.

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It went from just a few hundred. uh You know: um veterans entered into those cemeteries to now.

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2500 plus to 3 000- and uh you know they always say that someone is never forgotten when you're.

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Able to say their name, so the intent is to place a wreath with dignity, step back, say their name.

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And recognize them and then move on it is a very moving opportunity, so those that can.

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um uh Take on the opportunity and um volunteer they're always looking for volunteers. There's.

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A lot of cemeteries that are out there, uh I will be up in hampstead. I believe.

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um That afternoon, placing wreaths for uh the services, uh the army and, I think, pow mia before.

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We start doing the uh you know going to the those that are interred, but um just a good opportunity.

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um The other thing well bear with me I mentioned last week. I think that governor hogan announced.

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376 businesses that were given given money for revitalizing main street and I didn't have the.

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Names of them, I just want to you- know, rattle off the the names, because it's pretty impressive for.

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Almost five hundred thousand dollars went to these uh small businesses carroll, adult.

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Medical daycare collision course llc great or get food, go llc, uh kindred treatment, center, llc.

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Mindful living counseling, llc power, brow collective llc revolution, the movement.

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Sk printing incorporated and storm crow games llc. uh I always like to say it's fun to get somebody.

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Else's money and that's what this was. This was state funds, uh revital, revitalizing, main street.

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um The other thing I just want to share just for a moment is: I had the opportunity to attend holiday.

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Party last night for the lions club when proud lion bennett for a handful of years and what was.

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Really cool about this is one. The food was great and the community and the folks were sitting with.

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Audrey- and I were sitting with- was just a lot of fun, you know talking about. You know what people.

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Are going to be doing for christmas? What they're doing for holidays, kids and grandkids coming in.

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But also off to the side where uh four christmas trees and we all brought either canned food or.

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Unwrapped presents, uh you know: toys for tots type of approach. It was incredible. The amount of.

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Gifts that were there and there was about 60 of us at the dinner 60 70 of us at the dinner.

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But the amount of uh you know tom, like you, said the community just outreach, is amazing and then.

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um We talked about uh different committee reports. How uh going.

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To walmart and buying gifts, we spent about five to six thousand dollars on gifts for.

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Those in need getting martin's uh grocery cards was another twelve hundred dollars.

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um Just a lot of different services, the reason I'm just sharing this with you is: I just encourage.

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Especially, if you don't know what to give uh during christmas or or the holidays, you know.

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Giving the gift of service is pretty cool and it's not a lot of money, uh so it shouldn't be.

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About the money, it's it's really not a lot of time, but throughout the year just giving.

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That gift uh goes a long ways, especially when we can take care of our own community.

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um So not to be sappy about this, but it just makes you feel really good uh when.

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You're able to give something to somebody, so I just want to share that with you. Okay, now.

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Instead of giving let's talk about what was taken, what was taken from a lake and I think.

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Something relatively large was taken from the lake and the water was was displaced because of.

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This large animal that was taken so uh jeff. Why don't you uh take it from here and.

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Share with us a little bit about the annual big fish contest and come on up.

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The winner gets a seat at the table right, that's right, good morning, commissioners, today we are here.

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To present the prize for the 2022 big fish contest, this is a contest that was started back in 2015.

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And for many years we had a tournament on the opening day of the season at potty run park.

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Inevitably, the weather would not be good kind of like today and uh you'd get mixed results for.

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A turnout, and also for revenue that's coming into the park. We made the decision to have a.

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Season-Long contest- and this would also help drive the attendance to the park during the months of.

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May and november, it's also when some of the best fishing occurs. In fact, I think just about every.

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Year, the winning fish was caught during march or november, but not this year this year, the winning.

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Fish was caught in, may, I think it was may 14th and mr jeffrey goodall is with us this morning.

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The fish was 42 inches long, a striped bass weighing in at 34.05 pounds, so not an all-time.

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Record but a pretty darn big fish so did displace the water somewhat. I would imagine it did so how.

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Long did it take you to pull them in? Oh, that's. You lose track of time because I use light tackle so.

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It probably took me 20 minutes to get them near the boat. Did you, I mean use a round hook and I.

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Had circle hooks? Okay, I always use circle hooks because it's less mortality rate on the fish and.

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So you're a caring fisherman, let alone anything else, so yeah. That's that's nice to hear.

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um I generally don't keep fish, but uh I keep ham fish, but this guy came home yeah. Well, I.

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Would imagine he did um from the shore from a boat from a boat? Okay good deal yeah. It was a.

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It was a good day, it sounds like it was. I mean I think the biggest thing I've ever pulled out.

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There was maybe two and a half pounds at most, if not three, but I can't imagine 37 coming out of.

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That place so there's actually a lot of smaller fish in there stripers and you know they don't.

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Reproduce in there, as far as I know so there is a good I'm. I wouldn't know how old they are, but.

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You catch a lot of like 17 18 inch fish, so there's going to be plenty of big ones to come. I need to.

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Get a boat get out there, I'm always fishing for the shoreline cell. Any uh any comments on this.

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Just congratulations: yeah! Congratulations! Let's um also like to recognize and thank miss gina.

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Porter gina is the park. Superintendent at piney, run and also brad. Rogers is seated.

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In the audience behind me, he is our bureau chief of parks, so gina. How is the park going right now.

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Well, today's our christmas party, so everyone's very excited: okay, yeah, it's a beautiful park, great.

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Place to be we're working on hiring our staff for next season, so that's coming along very nicely.

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And you're, looking forward to a gazebo, absolutely and um staff uh has filled up over time absolutely.

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We're getting there yeah, it was pretty challenging. You know. In the beginning, it was the summer we're.

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Hopeful for next year, though, okay hope's, not the course of action, just have a good plan out there.

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And see what we can do in recruiting the right folks, so uh to uh obviously get into the gate.

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And into the uh boathouse you know because that's the two challenges we had, but I think we came with.

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A good plan and we've taken some steps to try to address that as well. We've developed a recruitment.

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Brochure, that's cool, we'll be putting out to the public very shortly, and typically this time of.

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Year we get a lot of college students who are home on winter break, so we try to get the jobs posted.

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Early and gives us plenty of time to reach out to the community fantastic okay, again, congratulations.

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While we uh get a photo and we'll move on okay- and in case mr goodall, has any trouble.

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With this at the atm, we have an actual check as well, which I will give to you now. Thank you.

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37 pounds yeah out of that place, that is unreal.

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Wow, okay, you have a good one, have a wonderful day, yep merry christmas.

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Okay, the hard work's out of the way, let's go to item one state's attorneys bonus.

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State's attorney's office, who got mr culver and mr shoemaker.

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Gentlemen, good morning, good morning, commissioners, um first of all, thank you very much for the.

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Opportunity to appear here this morning and our request for bonuses for the state's attorney's.

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Office I'm going to go back to the sunday. In july, I received a text from one of the employees at the.

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State's attorney's office and the text said: um does this apply to us and attach to the text? Was.

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A an article from the carroll county times and the headline in the article was carroll county.

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Government employees to receive a raise, so it was the first time I had seen the article I read it.

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And thought I hadn't heard of this as of yet, but I knew that when the commissioners had given the.

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Cost of living increase in 2021, they had moved it up from, I believe, july, to either february.

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Or march- and I knew I had heard of that kind of last minute- so I figured this might apply to us.

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So I went into work monday and someone actually forwarded me. The email that had been sent out.

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In relation to the the increase I made some phone calls and realized that it didn't apply.

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To us it was for the commissioner's employees, so I had to send an email out to the rest of.

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The office letting them know because a lot of folks had kind of heard about this seen the.

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Article and to say the least, it was detrimental to morale. um Having said that, by no means do I.

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Think this should be a a fault on the employees in the commissioner's office. That raise was well.

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Deserved it was long overdue and they certainly deserved it, but the basis the reasons that the.

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Increase occurred according to the information I received is was for retention of county employees.

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You know we all have. Fortunately, employees within our offices who make a career in carroll county.

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um The idea is to try and retain them. They have a great deal of knowledge and also that there were.

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Vacancies within the commissioner's office, where they needed employees to fill those vacancies.

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um Those are the same issues that have affected the state's attorney's office.

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um As of 2022 um at the end of 2022, we will have nine employees who have left our office this year.

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So that's about a 20 turnover rate according to the article in the carroll county times,.

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The commissioner's office uh believe had an 11 turnover rate. um The last three assistant.

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States attorneys who have left our office left for salary increases of at least ten thousand dollars.

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We just had an assistant state's attorney leave last week and she indicated to us that.

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Even if she had gotten the the 10 increase, she would still be making more money where she went.

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We've had several candidates, we've interviewed, we've had openings for.

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Assistant state's attorneys and we've had several candidates interview we've offered.

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Them positions and they've accepted positions in other offices where they received a higher salary.

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We've had open positions for over 18 months in our office that we haven't been able to fill.

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And just recently we had an employee submit retirement notice. We have employees who, when.

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We get the cost of living increase. Typically around june they don't receive the full increase.

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Because they're up on the edge of their grade, so they're tapped out so to speak. They're at the top.

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Our evidence review unit where we've had we've had openings for about 18 months. They.

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Consistently work overtime to try and keep up with the huge increase in the body, worn camera videos.

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State's attorney's office is an office where we have great people.

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We have great people who take pride in what they do they enjoy working in our office and we're here.

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Because we believe that they also deserve a 10 increase and that's why we're requesting the bonus.

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um So at this time, if you have questions, I'm happy to answer them, but I'll turn it over to mr shoemaker. I know he has additional information for you.

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Questions right now: oh not yet! Okay,.

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Okay, well, first of all, you know we're uh joined, I guess, in support of our request by uh uh judge.

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Hacker is our administrative judge, with the circuit court for carroll county and sheriff the.

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Waste uh judge hacker. I wouldn't deign to speak for him, uh but you know he may have commentary so.

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Let me just say that over the last few months that I've had the occasion to meet individually with.

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Everybody over at the state's attorney's office- and I can tell you what I've been able to glean.

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From those interactions is just what mr culver said, we have an extremely dedicated and committed.

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Group of folks over there and I'm I'm excited to be inheriting them. I guess in about two and a half.

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Weeks, but I can also tell you that the recurring theme that I've heard again and again from the.

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Folks over there uh was there disappointment uh stemming from the raises in the longevity.

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Increases that they wound up finding out did not apply to them as a consequence. At the last budget.

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Cycle and having said that, you know given the staffing challenges uh that the board of county.

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Commissioners has had been experiencing over the last year or two leading up to.

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The adoption of the fiscal year 23 budget, I absolutely believe that they made the right call.

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uh The board of county commissioners, then, however, the carroll county state's attorney's office has.

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Has been experiencing the very same challenges, in fact, in some instances there are even more.

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Pronounced, let me also note that I fully support the significant investment that was made in our.

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Law enforcement personnel during the last uh budget cycle you know and and and the newspaper.

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Account accurately reflected that uh uh that was done with an eye towards promoting public safety.

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In our county- and I absolutely agree with taking care of our boots on the ground, our.

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Law enforcement community and- and I'm glad that they did, that. I guess where I take issue, though.

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uh With the last board, is that you know when they invested significantly in public safety.

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You know they didn't consider the carroll county state's attorney's office in their consideration.

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And I believe in any deliberation about public safety, if you're doing it holistically anyway,.

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Law enforcement has to be considered 1a, but the state's attorney's office really has to be 1b.

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They charge the bad guys, we prosecute the bad guys. So my specific request for you all.

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Would be that you at least partially fix what I believe was was an oversight, but given the.

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10 bonuses that we've requested, according to our uh budget analysts from the county, heidi.

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uh She estimates that the uh price tag for that would be in the neighborhood of 315 000, so we're.

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Asking for that, as a one-time bonus for our folks and I'll talk to you all during your budget cycle.

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About uh addressing the needs of the state's attorney's office going forward.

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And that's what we have may I address the commissioners. Please.

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First of all, good morning morning morning, uh I fully I fully support the request from the.

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State's attorney's office for this bonus, these are well-deserving employees uh who, through uh you.

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Know circumstances, certainly beyond their control were not the recipients of the salary increases.

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That were afforded to other county employees. Our my employees in the courthouse are in a similar.

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Position to those in the state's attorney's office, in that they are county paid judiciary, employees.

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But I will tell you that to a person they really consider themselves to be county.

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Employees, though, technically speaking, they are not. We have also experienced an attrition rate.

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We've also experienced difficulty in hiring. In fact, we lost one employee to the state's.

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Attorney's office, who left the court to to get a higher salary in the state's attorney's office.

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The other difficulty that we experience in the circuit court is that part of our employees, some.

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Of our employees are state employees and some are county paid court employees and so when the state.

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Offers either salary increases or cost of living increases to state employees? Those increases apply.

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To the state judiciary, employees, but they don't apply to my county, paid judiciary, employees and so.

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uh We have two experienced a a drop in morale as a result of that, and I appeal to you uh to consider.

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A request for the court employees as well along the same lines as that which is requested by the.

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State's attorney's office, I care very deeply about the court system in carroll county. I care very.

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Deeply about the justice system in carroll county and the state's attorney's office and the court.

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Are really partners in that and, most importantly, I care very deeply about my employees, and so I know.

M

That this was not on your agenda this morning, but I know that time is of the essence as well, and so.

M

I ask you to consider that the court employees and the state's attorney employees really are.

M

Part of the same judicial team, if you will and ask you to consider my request this morning, okay.

A

We're gonna open up for dollar honestly jeff checker. Thank you for uh attending.

A

You and I have had multiple conversations and it's a challenge. It's definitely a challenge.

A

um I can honestly say I was expecting to have a conversation with you later on today, from after.

A

This not actually now, just because of the expectations of who else, that is a indirect.

A

Type of a position, so out of the thousand, give or take 700 are direct and a few hundred are indirect.

A

As far as what the county funds, so it's not the county commissioners, you know just employees. It's.

A

It is the carroll county, um direct employees at 700 and then the indirect. So you know I was.

A

Looking at that few, I will make myself available. Look I I just. I owe it to my employees to at.

M

Least, uh you did this appeal, you absolutely do and- uh and I appreciate that honestly, I just.

A

Thought it would be a few hours from now after the discussion we were going to have here, but.

A

You just were a little bit quicker than I thought, um but uh let me uh and listen I I don't want to.

M

Do anything to derail the state's attorney's request? Okay, I again I supported a hundred.

M

Percent no, but I think what you're going to end up doing, though, is um solidifying where we're.

A

Going to be having to move, but let me open it up for conversation and dialogue from us.

A

um Either, to each other and or to uh those in front of us, so yes, commissioners, I would note.

N

The agenda specify yeah specifies state's attorney to focus on state's attorney.

A

Situation only so, okay, it means I've won. My last case in the circuit court.

F

And thanks for that, because I would have asked each side but I'll stick now on this side.

F

What impact does vacant positions have for you, and you mentioned morale? Does it affect.

F

Schedule does it affect coverage of stuff? Does effective investigations? What all? What all does.

F

Not being able to fill positions create problems for you, commissioner kyler, I would say it affects.

B

All the above, it's just a matter of you know. We can't affect the level of work that comes into.

B

Our office, you know people get arrested, people get charged with crimes, however many come forward. We.

B

Have to prosecute them to the best of our ability. So even when our workload increases, we can't say.

B

All right: well, let's, let's wait on these cases because we don't have an attorney. We have to.

B

Have attorneys appear in court, we have to have attorneys prepare cases, we have to have staff.

B

Who are available to work up these cases for us and as the additional specifically our evidence.

B

Review unit as the number of body worn cameras, have increased westminster police just increased.

B

Last week more videos come in, but we haven't gotten more employees. Fortunately come january, we.

B

Will have a new employee to come in to assist that unit, but it just means the folks in the office are.

B

Doing a lot more work, we have attorneys working weekends to prep their cases so that they're.

B

Ready because they're in court so many days during the week, so these vacancies affect the office as.

B

A whole thank you and that's been that's been particularly acute at the circuit court level.

L

uh You know we have right now, as we speak, I mean we have essentially four vacancies at the senior.

L

Prosecutor level and they they are taxed the folks that we do have and it's yeah they they.

L

Have challenges they they've met those challenges, but they're they're challenges. Nonetheless,.

G

So, if I might ask uh so, do you anticipate that bonuses will have.

G

Some kind of effect on the issue of competitive pay in the hiring.

G

Process versus say a discussion about the salary structure in and of itself.

B

Well, I think I think it's two separate discussions. I think you know the bonuses are really for the.

B

Employees we have in the office right now. The folks who you know in july thought: hey wow. I you.

B

Know I'm, I might be getting an increase grade and lo and behold found that it didn't apply.

B

To them so we're trying we're trying to to make that right um going forward. Will there be need.

B

To be a discussion about salary level levels in our office, yes, um we're we're no different than.

B

Other organizations where there's just not as many people applying for jobs, um so the carroll county.

B

State's attorney's office is is not different from any from other state's attorney's offices.

B

Across the state there's a lot more vacancies, um so there's a lot more competition for those open.

B

Positions- and I know other counties have increased their salaries. Montgomery county was raising their.

B

Assistant state's attorney opening salary to eighty thousand dollars and that's in competition.

B

With with baltimore city and with other counties, so as these other counties increase, we're falling.

B

Behind so when we do interview people and we've had candidates where we thought would.

B

Be a great fit, but they have opportunities in other jurisdictions. So and the same goes for.

B

Staff, you know we have folks who you know they may love working in the office and they may not.

B

Be looking in other places, but they may decide you know what I'm going to retire. I'm going to.

B

Hang it up a little sooner um just because I'm not I'm not seeing the increases that I thought.

B

I would see so I so to to give you a long-winded answer. Commissioner vigliotti, it's it's a it's a.

B

Two-Pronged uh process, I think we need to look at and just to follow up on that. Commissioner.

L

um The bonus request- that's before you today is specifically earmarked for the employees.

L

Who have been weathering this storm for the last? You know months and you know year and.

L

A half you know, whatever the time frame is that they've been suffering over there.

L

It does not apply to. It would not apply to the new folks that are coming in starting.

L

January 3rd is for these folks that have been bearing the burden and how many of those employees.

G

At present, do you anticipate, may resign, given the lack of competitive pay without the bonuses.

G

Does- and I guess I'm trying to be, as is you know, straightforward and factual as possible.

G

So, if if bonuses are not given how many of those employees that you have now do, you anticipate will.

G

Not stick around because they do not have that that 10 percent, that other county agencies had.

G

That that's that's hard to predict, but I can say that I know that there are employees in the office.

B

Who I've been looking for other positions? um So I I we can't predict that, but I know that the 10.

B

Would go a long way to giving him one more reason to stick around and maybe turn down another offer.

G

And so and so going and to that point and going back to what you.

G

Said a few minutes ago, so it's almost like you're saying that the bonuses have.

G

And let me let me rephrase that so the the question of the bonus is at presence is not.

G

Necessarily a question about the the competitive pay for the vacancies. Correct you're, talking about.

G

The bonuses today in and of themselves to the existing employees, and so we should consider.

G

Should we consider the vacancies that you have now separate to the bonuses that you're requesting the.

B

Only reason we mention the vacancies is because it kind of um kind of hits home as to the folks.

B

Who work in the office the more work that they do so the vacant positions? The bonuses would not go.

B

To increasing those salaries, this is just for our current staff who are in the office. Thank you sure.

A

And um ted, if you can, can you uh let us know.

A

If the county has used bonuses um prior um and is there precedence for either this size.

A

Of a bonus or type of bonuses provided to either direct employees or and or indirect,.

O

Okay, uh probably a couple answers: okay to that bonuses have not been used very often in any.

O

Circumstances, I'm not aware of something like this request. Having happened before during covid.

O

We did give a bonus one year where there were no salary increases part way through the year. Our.

O

Situation had changed and the commissioners agreed to give a bonus um and if we go back to recession,.

A

I apologize those were like weren't, those were like 300, I mean they were very small weren't. They.

A

um I can't remember the numbers- I don't remember either, but how do you shaking her head? Yes,.

A

Yeah, that's what I thought they were like 300 or actually 100 to 300 something.

O

Small and if we go back to the great recession, I think there might have been a year or two where we.

O

Gave bonuses instead of uh salary increases, so it's been used on occasion not very much.

O

Almost all those were as part of a budget process, the the two that I can think of that would not be.

O

In the budget process was the coveted money I was just talking about and what we're considering here.

O

Today, the um bonus I mean since you're up here amount 315 000. for state's attorney's office.

A

Yes, roughly, okay, okay, so, while you're up there, I know from board of ed. There were bonus situations.

F

Various years of bargaining units didn't like it, but they took it. That was always probably.

F

Part of the budget process that wasn't during the other parts of the year do you remember.

F

Well, with the school system, it gets a little weird because the the union.

O

Negotiations and the budget process are out of sync, but it was part of the normal process.

O

Now, I'm not going to swear that. I can remember what peter didn't happen with.

O

Schools, but I don't recall any you- know kind of special bonus outside of the process.

D

So I've been a commissioner for 10 days a lot to learn. I think I'm learning a lot each day.

D

One of the things I understood before I even got elected was that we've got a lot of.

D

Unfinished business in terms of raises I.e, bonuses, compensation, retirement benefits, death benefits.

D

And it also begs the question: you know: are there better ways to do compensation and and what works.

D

Best anyway or bone, our bonus is effective. Should we be looking at some sort of broader approach.

D

I I understand why you're asking this for this now and I understand the need.

D

But I am concerned because it is outside the budget process and the budget cycle.

D

And right now, as far as I can tell, the budget cycle for us looks like it's going to be.

D

Complicated it looks like it could be problematic and to get in the habit of going outside the cycle.

D

And making these types of decisions is a concern of mine going forward here.

D

I support it. I support I support what you are trying to accomplish absolutely 100 percent.

D

But my concern is that we've got a budget process and a budget cycle approaching us and it certainly.

D

Would be nice to be able to take a look at this issue and all the other ones together.

D

Although I understand how important this one is- and I certainly understand the concern and.

B

Obviously, in a perfect world, it would be part of the budget process, but moving forward with.

B

The budget process I mean how many more months are we talking before any employees are going to see.

B

Any increase from our perspective, you know this is something that shouldn't have should have happened.

B

Last july, and it's something that we've we've tried to move forward with. Since then, we've had.

B

Discussions and thankfully you were kind enough to let us appear here today if we could have done.

B

This july 16th, I would have been before you july, 16th, so this I, commissioner garrett, absolutely.

B

That that certainly is is understandable, but this is a situation where moving forward. I I.

B

Would love to see employees get raises, but that's that's months away and that doesn't that doesn't.

B

You know make up for the the time where there were other employees who got it 10 and and our.

B

Employees felt that it was more than justified in our office as well, yeah and I'll share with you.

A

Because, in the same sentiment that you know, commissioner and sharon is I agree that we should.

A

Be taking care of the of the people the best we can. um It wasn't july newspaper that brought.

A

Evidence to this situation, it was a budget process that started months prior in open. Second, I mean.

A

I'm very proud that we are here in open session to have this discussion um every work session.

A

We had when it came to studies or discussions of bone of salary, increases were done openly and.

A

Other agencies and others came to us and said: hey what about us? You know there was some real large.

A

Muscle movements with the fire and ems on how to do things, so they were very large participants.

A

um You know and because she's also in the room, the sheriff's department was also very much.

A

Attuned to every work session, um I understand it's overload of information. um I I do.

A

But there's you know a few lessons to be learned. One is to recognize that we are willing to put.

A

Ourselves out there in open saying these are the things we're doing and, like the commissioner said,.

A

Next budgets can be very challenging, especially when it comes to discretionary dollars that.

A

We're gonna have to deal with, but then having the ability to participate during the work sessions.

A

um You're right we make a decision for the next budget cycle. It will be months prior to it being.

A

In effect, because the budget will be approved, may 31st and uh put in place on july 1st fiscal year.

A

So you're absolutely right. We're talking! You know nine months away, eight nine months away. um If we.

A

And again I I'm empathetic. I applaud everything being done and and judge you and I've had a lot.

A

Of these conversations, um it's not that I don't want to say comparison, but if we look.

A

At one we look at the others of those 300 and from 315 000. It adds up to 4.1 million dollars.

A

If we're look to look at the same type of now is one less important than the other. You know.

A

You know, mr schumacher, you said that there's phase one two and three. Whatever the share you know, law.

A

Enforcement, um I agree with you so with that said, safety security being highest priority. Okay, these.

A

Are more important than these, but it doesn't mean that these leaders don't find them as high as of.

A

A priority so they're going to be coming to us, um like I said I was expecting to judge in a few.

A

Hours not not right now, um but we're talking 4.1 million. uh If we were to look at bonuses in the.

A

Same in the same breath that you're asking for now and that's a concern because that's a large chunk.

A

Of change- that's unallocated uh in this budget, um as opposed to getting in front of the budget cycle.

A

When we go right into the work sessions and get this put in place,.

A

You know um the priority was to get positions put in place and I think we did that with money. That.

A

You had correct that you had within your budget. We were able to move and get specific jobs well,.

B

We had to discontinue several positions in order to pay for the openings that we had.

B

To fill so, but we did it within our existing budget, we just had to discontinue positions. You.

A

They were open positions. No, there were field positions, okay, but you.

A

Prioritized the positions that you needed to fill correct.

A

And I would say if it feels easy to be the air force, but no it's. This is difficult. uh This is.

A

um Because we're in a difficult situation um and commissioner watson, if, if I might.

G

um Going over all this and you know, reading everything that we've been given and one of the.

G

Concerns that I harbor is that if we for the sake of argument, we say okay, today we're going to give.

G

You a 10 bonus per employee right. What happens if going through a budgeting cycle next year and.

G

We're talking about you know increasing wages. We can only do five dollars, so it you know it would.

G

Break my heart to say today we're going to give you ten dollars, but next year to to compliment.

G

Your salary, you can only increase you by five dollars, and so that is something that that you.

G

Know deeply troubles me that that you know be saying: okay, we're going to give you extra this.

G

Year but we can do it next year and we end up in the the same kind of a position one year from now.

E

I just want to point out gentlemen: I want to thank you all for coming in this morning. I.

E

Greatly appreciate and respect the work and the diligent work that the state's attorney's office.

E

Does and I'm empathetic to your your cause and I understand where you're coming from.

E

um I have to echo my colleagues, though, on the fact of we are dealing with. You know.

E

Some economic challenges, to say the least, uh be it high inflation, be it an economic recession.

E

That we're already in we've got a wide array of heavy lifting. uh You know to colonel excuse.

E

Me to commissioner rothstein's point: you have a 4.1 million dollar number we'd be.

E

Looking at, if we were looking across the board at all these different organizations right now,.

E

um In relationship to this bonus, uh one question I did want to just inquire about was: if we were.

E

To give this bonus right now, is this then going to be? Are you looking to then carry.

E

This forward in next year's budget cycle as a pay increase, salary wise uh with, with whatever other.

E

Additional uh things you might bring forward to us- or is this completely a one and done situation.

B

Well, I mean, as I can, I think commissioner vigliata brought it up before I mean it's kind of a.

B

Two-Step process this is looking at um employees who um our office is as we look at. It was no.

B

Different than the commissioner's office and and commissioner rossing is correct, and I didn't mean.

B

To make it sound, like the commissioners july, 16th just said: hey we're giving it 10. I know there were.

B

A number of studies that were done and we've looked into how they can fill vacancies within.

B

The commissioner's office, how they can retain employees, and so I know there was a lot of.

B

Homework done before they uh the raise was given to the commissioner's employees. Our point is just.

B

For the same reasons, the commissioner's employees got the raise. We have those same issues within.

B

Our office and, from our perspective we've been dealing with these vacancies. We've been trying.

B

To retain people since the july time when we found out about the raises, so this is step one to.

B

um To write the employees we have now moving forward, we certainly would look to our salary.

B

Structure and see if it's comparable to other counties I mean are we: are we paying.

B

Assistant states attorneys what other assistant state's attorneys being paid across the state.

B

As the same with our admin staff, so that's certainly something we're going to look at.

B

This is just dealing with the employees we have today, and this is something again that.

A

The sheriff provided us with some meat on the bones and understanding salaries.

A

In um comparison to other communities, other jurisdictions, I've thrown the sheriff's name out a.

A

Couple times and if you know do you have something, but it's got specific to state's attorney's office.

A

Discussion, if not yeah, okay, I think we'll be all over me if it's anything other um I'm in my ninth.

P

Year of budgeting, so so I've got a leg up on on on these folks. I really do so and I do study you all.

P

Intently, when it comes to budgeting and and and there's a lot of complex things that are done with.

P

My budget, it's much larger than than these folks, but what I want you to understand before you make.

P

A vote is that every single case that a deputy, a trooper, an officer, makes whether it's a suspended.

P

Driver a drunk driver all the way up to homicide comes through mr culver and mr shoemaker's office.

P

Any case that requires the representation of the state comes through their office, regardless of.

P

What what agency it is- and I think what concerns me is that I have some extremely complex cases.

P

That are coming up for prosecution, and you only need to pick up the newspaper to see exactly what.

P

I'm talking about and if, if we can't retain or if I don't have the best and brightest that are.

P

Prosecuting those cases it's a disservice to this community and what what I am seeing, unfortunately,.

P

Is a case being assigned that is complex and that attorney that has the case may find grass that's.

P

Greener somewhere else and roll out which prolongs that case and and put and continues to push it and.

P

You can only push these cases so far before we've got to do something with them, and so I.

P

Know they're trying to recruit some quality felony prosecutors, which I need in place desperately, but.

P

Please understand: there's everything that goes through their office, absolutely everything I I.

P

Support it, I understand that there's a budget process that that needs to take place here in.

P

In january, all the way through to the spring, until it's adopted in july and and I'm very much in tune.

P

To that process, I I don't think mr culver's been in the position for for a long long time.

P

To to watch that process go um and- and I think he's desperate to come over and ask for this to.

P

Make sure that we retain those people so that the cases I have can be adequately prosecuted.

P

So that folks don't need to go to jail, go to jail. So I'm here to support his his request.

A

You know we got a lot of um numbers and specifics specificity from uh from heidi.

A

From the office management, budget and ted and from you um for us to think through.

A

Allowing us to make a black and white decision from what we have. But.

A

You know there's also the potential to table this, have a further discussion on this.

A

um Doing math from the diocese doing monkey math and I refuse to do that and don't expect any of.

A

Us to do that so, but it may be something I'd like to ask that question of our legal.

D

Counsel, what what are our, what are our options? Yes, no defer. I mean what what what are our.

N

You mean on this question: you can guess no or defer yes, defer me now.

N

Defer means we'll put it off till a later date or take defer until the budget process. I guess.

F

I'd like to make a couple more comments and if it generates an answer to a question, great.

F

um My my opinion, a bonus is one-time money and uh it it should not be reflected in next year's.

F

Budget, that's what do you say, apples and bananas um and if you were asking for ongoing money.

F

um I I just stopped less than 15 minutes ago, but you're not you're, asking for one-time money.

F

It is related to law enforcement, as our sheriff constantly tells us.

F

We're not the other counties around us, we're not the other larger city that you can drive.

F

To in 40 minutes- and I don't want to see us be that way- I don't want to see us have.

F

People out on the street awaiting a trial that commit another crime. You know I don't want to.

F

See things expedited, I I do think, unfortunately, our whole national economy and the uh gotta watch.

F

My uh the cluster that's going on complicates this and I think the change in the state's attorney's.

F

Office complicates this. uh You, you probably had a lot of things on your plate. All of a sudden.

F

And- and so I'm more sympathetic to this, but if the rest of you are not, then then I think.

F

Cabling, it is better than than saying no today I'd hate to I'd hate, to call vote and have it be.

F

Turned down if there's more things we can consider and and I'll go on the record for transparency.

F

Not not relating to anybody else in this room. If anybody else would ask for this now,.

F

Any of the other entities that aren't involved in law enforcement, they're.

F

Going to get immediate no from me, this has nothing to this, doesn't set a precedence.

F

For that, that's that's again apples and bananas. So that's where I am guys.

N

Commissioners, when we say table we mean you, you won't consider it today, but they can come back.

N

At some point and ask for it again: we'd have to go through the same notification process.

N

Correct right, we don't we don't really do that, um never have before the board can bring it up.

Q

Anytime, they want the one rule of robert's rules that we follow, um and that is that um the the.

Q

Losing side can't continue to bring, and so if there was a, you know three to two vote or a four.

Q

To one vote of the people on the on the losing side can't consistently bring the same agenda item.

Q

Up again and again, but I feel that um I don't know just oh I I appreciate, but I feel like you know, if.

A

uh Colleagues are comfortable in doing some more homework on this and looking at different options.

A

For you know different size bonuses, or you know, having further discussion, then we should.

A

You know defer a decision for five six weeks and after you know some time come back and.

A

The answer still may be: no, uh but you know that's, although it's not normal, that we've.

A

Done it before it doesn't mean we don't do it. That's up to us I'll make a motion to table.

G

Well or do we need to do that because we haven't made a motion on this yet.

A

I think um it'd be fair to say till when or.

A

Oh, that's a good question. I mean we could table till the budget, so not not that far.

G

I don't think um yeah, I'm with and and I'll be honest, I'm not familiar with the protocols here.

F

I'm not used to discussing something without emotion in a second prior to that happening.

F

And in that case, you'd have to table it. But if we just have a consensus that we want to investigate.

F

This a little more and defer it. We don't need emotion. Do we no right? That's right. I would.

G

Draw my motion yeah, but yeah again, the board can bring it back anytime. They want if they have the.

Q

Formal vote, then, then, the rule of the loser so to speak, not being able to bring it backwards. No.

A

But if you don't yeah and just um for you and for anyone, uh understanding the schedule, you know.

A

You know we have session open session next week. uh We do not have session the following week or.

A

For the next two weeks, because we'll be at the winner, maryland association counties uh conference.

A

And then the next session will be january 12th, I believe and then 19th. So just let you know the.

A

Time frame so we're looking at the 12th and or the 19th to further this discussion um in any level of.

A

Value you know value, you know, because we're not going to do it next week, there's no value.

A

In there, but uh if we look at different options and we'll look at other ways to to look at this.

A

um That to me makes sense um yeah. I don't think we need to say you know I'd rather not lock in a.

A

Specific day because I'll causes some issues, but we can definitely bring it back on the 12th or.

A

19Th and just go from there, I mean that's fair to you, um because the direction is going right.

A

Now I I can read the room, christopher rothstein, certainly and yeah. Obviously we move on into.

B

Five, nothing yesterday, but certainly if we need to table and provide you with more information.

B

We are certainly willing to get you whatever information. You need to make your decision.

A

Okay, yeah I'd appreciate that um and I and I and again there's a lot of discussion about.

D

What happened over the summer and last year for a lot of us, it's sort of we have to read about that.

D

Sure here, but I did mention when I spoke earlier- that uh you know the issue of bonuses and raises.

D

I mean what are the best ways to do that? Are there other things we could possibly be doing.

D

And it's not fair to you, the state's attorney's office, but you know there's also the precedent.

D

Of the bonus issue, which I understand completely, is not the same, it's apples and bananas. I concur.

D

With that sentiment, but for me personally, this is an opportunity to to understand a little bit more.

D

About what these bonuses and and or maybe smaller, increases do and what makes more sense, so I would.

D

Appreciate the opportunity to be able to do that, considering that we did, you know we did get some.

D

Good data over the last couple days, but it was just the last couple days sure and I'm data driven.

D

For now, probably no change but uh no and uh and judge, I think um it also warrants us. It's also.

A

Further our conversations, because this is long law enforcement, safety, security, it's.

A

A team sport and it's not one end or the other. It's it's all. So you know when you report that.

A

Equation and we left it at one point, but I think, as we continue to move forward, we should look at.

A

All of this, so okay and I appreciate you being forward to continuing the discussion. Okay, any.

A

Other further conversation discussion, gentlemen, no we'll be in touch. Thank you for your time.

F

Appreciate you for coming in, thank you, foreign, okay. Let's move on the uh final approval or.

A

Proposed critical farms program, application of the john parker smith and marsha lee smith, property.

R

Yes, good morning, commissioners, good morning morning so and as you mentioned, we're here.

R

For a final approval of a critical farm wow, this is real about. So um normally our program.

R

Manager, jp smith would be here. Instead, we have jackie breton, who is our program specialist.

R

The reason being is that the applicant in this case is jp's parents, so for for obvious reasons,.

R

um Jp has has recused himself from this entire process, and so jackie has addressed.

R

um um Every step of this process so alternative: okay present, oh no.

A

Chris is asleep at the switch.

S

And powerpoints, but neither one of those well, I see the presentation: do you see it? Well, no, whoever.

A

Just highlighted it no presentation from ag pres this week, no presentation for mag press this week.

A

um You didn't get one, do you have it on your uh phone or something you can forward or no.

R

No, I do not. Okay do you have all the pertinent information that we can go through? Okay, uh well,.

S

Yeah I mean everything is pretty well on the briefing so we're here today to request final.

S

Approval for the parker and marsha smith property critical farms program, the previous board already.

S

Gave preliminary approval- and this is just the final thing before we go to settlement- they.

S

It's a 95.48 acre farm off of jason town road in westminster. um The critical farms program assists.

S

Farm buyers with 52 and a half percent of either the purchase price or our appraised value in this.

S

Case, whichever is lower in this case, the purchase price was lower, so the 52 and a half percent was.

S

Based on the purchase price of 850 000, which came to the assistance amount of 446 250 dollars,.

S

So again, we're just asking for the final approval on this, so we can move ahead to settlement and.

S

At that time they are a mouth applicant and they will get their easement placed through the state.

A

Okay, are there any questions on this and, most importantly, understanding.

A

The process from prior approval to final approval. Okay, um since I was at the last board making the.

A

Prior approval, why don't I just go with it, move that the board of commissioners exercise the.

A

Option to provide purchase assistance for john parker smith and marshall, lee smith, through the.

A

Critical farms program and the amount of 446 250 dollars, so I got got a motion. You've got.

A

A second aid discussion all in favor, aye, aye. Okay, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you.

A

Okay, cisco smartnet support renewal.

A

A

T

Good morning, commissioners, good morning.

U

The office of procurement, in cooperation with the department of technology services, request.

U

Your approval to award a contractor for cisco smartnet support services to digicon corporation.

U

In the amount of 151 877.34, and to include the cost for the license renewals as well.

U

For ten thousand five dollars and thirty three cents for a total cost of one hundred and sixty.

U

One thousand eight hundred eighty two dollars and sixty seven cents, this purchase being made.

U

Through a maryland state contract, which it was competitively bid, the cost has been approved in.

U

The fy 23 budget and no additional funds should be necessary morning again mark ripper director.

T

Of technology services- I'm here today with mr sixta cadell, who is our network and cyber security.

T

Manager and basically, what we're asking for is the annual maintenance we have about 210 devices out.

T

There that manage our entire network throughout the county. That includes all the recreation all.

T

The parks all the senior centers everything connected to the system, this maintenance is.

T

So that if any of those devices go down, they get replaced within generally within four hours. We're.

T

Back up and running again and if anything, all the security patches that get done throughout the year.

T

Get included in here and mr cadell can answer any other questions you might have about this.

V

Morning, just to uh to emphasize that these are for devices spread across every county facility.

V

Currently, that current count is around 47 sites that we have this equipment at and, as you can see,.

V

This is over 200 devices, so this is, you know, critical infrastructure for the county. That.

V

Pretty much every device has to work across this this hardware. At some point, is this a new item.

F

Or- or is this a first time and is the first time because of warranties running out or or timing for.

F

Maintenance or age or what's what's these, this is an annual cost that we have to have to bear.

A

And there's no benefiting going beyond annual correct.

T

That's correct, commissioner: again: we do that with every one of these. Now we check and see if there's any benefit to going out multiple years at one time. Okay,.

A

Okay, any questions on this.

A

If not entertain a motion, I move that the board of commissioners award a contract to for a cisco.

F

Smartnet support renewal with licenses to digicon corporation in the amount of 161.

F

882.67 second, I got a motion got a second any discussion seen here. None all in favor.

H

Aye, okay, commissioners, if I can indulge you for just one more minute, I also brought up with me.

T

This morning, uh mr j ubel, who is the new broadband project manager that was hired- and I just wanted.

T

To introduce him to the board, um he's already hit the ground running since last thursday has a lot.

T

Of great ideas with expanding broadband in carroll county- and I think he'll be a great asset to the.

T

County okay mark just uh with that said well first off welcome and thank you: um can you explain the.

A

Purpose of the hire and how that came about sure what the expectations are sure what's happened.

T

Is is because of covet. There was a recognition that high-speed broadband internet access was.

T

Very limited, especially in rural areas, the federal government over the last several years has issued.

T

Multiple grants out to the various states the state of maryland, has then in turn issued grants.

T

Out to various counties at this point we have been the recipient of five different awards made.

T

To different organizations to begin to construct or expand fiber in carroll county, we just recently.

T

With the last set end of the last session, applied for another set of grants moving forward and what.

T

Mr ueball is going to do for us is he's going to help in the management of those grants and.

T

Be a liaison between the county government and the residents of carroll county making sure that.

T

Everything is moving along and he is also going to be working at looking at bringing another possible.

T

Partners to expand fiber in carroll county as we move forward. He has a a lot of experience with.

T

This he's worked for both comcast and tower stream companies and comes to us with a lot of experience.

A

Great welcome yeah welcome. uh We look forward to sitting down with you and talking about this.

D

Issue because it's a it's a big one, I think we we got to get this done in the county.

D

You know we're pretty highly educated county a lot of working people. We've got to make.

D

Sure everybody can get this access, and I I just anecdotally prior to taking this position here.

D

Plenty of stories where we there's a lot of money being spent on broadband, but.

D

Still, nobody has internet, you know so so hopefully we can. We can we can bust through all that you can.

D

Help me understand where we are and we can get this done sure right and mark you, I mean we do.

A

Have maps of where the where the holes are correct? Yes, commissioner, we do and, and if any of you would.

T

Like to uh meet with us, either individually or you'd like me to schedule us the time to come back.

T

Before the board again um in open session, we would be happy to do that. We can put the maps up on the.

T

Screen so we can show you exactly where each ward is going to be in the county and where we still.

T

Have holes in the county so and there's a whole bunch of other things that are going to be coming.

T

Up that we'll be announcing um beginning of next year as well so and- and I think it's uh it's great.

F

That you have a number of grants now and, and I and I'm sure you do, but I would just encourage you to.

F

Put that out to the public as much as possible. I know I did work in other counties prior to this.

F

And I'd get from some I'd, get an email once a week about a new grant for road back road for blah blah.

F

Blah you know, a lot of them are small, but they add up and- and I appreciate that that you're getting.

F

Them yeah at this point, we we have about 2 000, new premises that will be hit with the grants.

T

That have been awarded again using somebody else's money is always a good thing, yep, so yeah so and.

T

Again, if you ever have any questions or you want to uh uh um send a resident our way, uh please feel.

T

Free to email, myself and jay and we'll be happy to talk to that resident and bring them up to.

T

Speed and look at where they're living and what's going on in their area, okay yeah, I would love to.

G

Have you come back to give us an informational presentation on the gaps and the holes and sure.

G

That would be fantastic. Thank you all right. Thank you great thanks. Thank you. Yeah. We did.

S

We did okay, okay, let's go from that to uh steel pavilion at piney run park. Okay came here. One.

A

For one, let's make it two for two: let's do that right, one park's one of my favorite parks, though.

U

Okay, the office of procurement in cooperation with recreation and parks, request your approval.

U

Toward game time, cunningham cunningham recreation, the construction of a steel pavilion at piney run.

U

Park in the amount of 124 975.24 cents, this amount is within the improved budget. No additional funds.

U

Should be necessary, thank you good morning again, jeff daggetson recreational parks, the pavilion.

H

In question is pavilion number three. If you are familiar with the park, if you are driving down.

H

The loop that takes you to the boat ramps: it is the pavilion inside that loop, that is on your left,.

H

It was constructed in 1991. and the funding that we are using for this replacement is local parks.

H

And playground infrastructure funding that comes from the state of maryland and it may only be used.

H

For park related projects, in fact, actually it's really targeted for projects like this, where you.

H

Have aging infrastructure- and we have a lot of that- it's an opportunity to replace that.

F

So this this is primarily replacement, not a not correct, not something new, not something.

F

Remove the old replace with the newer version and what's the primary use, uh we have a lot of rentals.

H

Of pavilions at pawnee run just under about eighty thousand dollars a year in our revenue, and we have.

H

Six pavilions there throughout the park wasn't the playground right by the pavilion. Wasn't that.

A

Replaced recently, a couple years ago, a playground down at the bottom of the hill was replaced. I was.

H

Going to say a couple years ago, but the years go by quick, I guess so. I'd have to check to give.

H

You the actual data on that, but that was we're playing and so we're talking about the pavilion.

A

Next to that playground, it's actually up the hill from it a little ways yeah, but yes, okay and- and I.

H

Think what you may be recalling we replaced the surface in that playground. We had some issues.

H

With the surfacing the play equipment itself is still there right. Yep, okay, talking the same place.

A

Okay, I'll move the board of commissioners award construction of a steel pavane at piney run.

A

Park to game time, excuse me care of cunningham recreation, total of 124 975.24. I got a motion.

A

In a couple seconds, any discussion on this all in favor, aye, okay right! Thank you very.

H

Much thank you. Thank you. Okay came here two for two. You can make it three for three now.

A

Let's talk about purchase of kohler generators for the college morning, commissioners morning.

U

The office of procurement in cooperation with the bureau of facilities are requesting your.

U

Approval to purchase two kohler generators from fidelity power systems for the carol community.

U

College at the cost of 190 213.14, this amount has been within the adopted budget and no additional.

U

Funds will be needed. Welcome new commissioners. uh My name is justin, with the bureau of facilities.

K

So today, we're here for the decision to award fidelity power systems, the contract to purchased.

K

Two cooler generators for carroll community college, the two generator supply critical.

K

Backup power to both the t, building and the end building out at the college. Both generators.

K

Were in service for 2021 years, since these uh structures were built, and this replacement does.

K

Fall within the county's budget and our plan for replacement of the generators throughout years.

K

Any questions that you have, I can answer for you. We have the generators on hand, uh we do.

K

Not commissioner, lead time currently is a year, if not a little bit more wow. So does this cost.

D

Just include the generators and install it's the turnkey commissioner. Yes, so uh fidelity will have.

K

A turnkey project we buy through source well um at a discounted rate for the county and then.

K

Fidelity will actually install the units for us all right. Thank you. One year turn time is that.

A

Really happening that way, or has that been that way for you know years I mean: what's the.

K

As in the lead times, um it's just with it with the way the market is nowadays everything's.

K

Just drawn out can't get the parts, especially the computer chips right all these generators.

K

Engines have smart boards and that's really what's holding the the project's up. um I would.

K

Love to be able to get pos out quicker, but you know obviously timing and budget's everything.

K

um Like I say we're out a year, so something like this you're, probably looking a year and.

K

A half until it's installed wow, so we, you know, really want to try to stay on target.

K

To get these things replaced at that time, because if we keep pushing them out and a.

K

Year and a half out now we're a year and a half behind under the ball, so wow, okay,.

A

Any other questions on this one uh entertain a motion.

E

Move that the board of commissioners award fidelity power systems for the purchase of two.

E

Color generators at carroll, community college in the amount of 190 000 or excuse me, 190 213 dollars.

E

And fourteen cents, a second, I got a motion. I got a second aid discussion, all in favor.

A

All right, all right did you all think you'll be spending this much money on generators and weekly.

A

Basis, don't remind me two hundred thousand here, two hundred thousand there, it's incredible. Yes,.

A

The price tag of equipment like this yep keeps the infrastructure up and up to date, it is it's.

A

Pricey, it was one of the most baffling I'll just share with you, one of the most baffling things to.

A

Me, the first few weeks thinking, oh my gosh, the amount of dollars in infrastructure to maintain.

A

The services in our county, but absolutely that's where we're at so that's what we're here to do.

K

So, thank you. Okay absolutely have a great day, you too great job. uh Okay, let's talk about jim.

A

Jim and I drive cleaning and lining of sewage, laterals and mains good morning morning, andy.

W

Good morning, commissioners, first I'd like to introduce myself. My name is carrie dulsky and.

W

I work in the office of procurement, I'm a buyer. I've been with kelly for 17 years and I just.

W

Like to welcome you here and um look forward to working with you, thank you, you as well.

X

Good morning my name is andrew watcher, I'm the chief of the bureau of utilities, I've.

X

Been on board for approximately six and a half years or so and you'll be seeing quite.

X

A bit of me as the weeks and months nice to meet you, but it's always a good thing.

W

The office of procurement, in cooperation with the bureau of utilities, request your approval.

W

To award a contract for the cleaning and lining of sewage, laterals and mains on gemini drive to.

W

Pvp underground llc in the amount of ninety two thousand thirty five dollars. This word is being.

W

Made via competitively bid term contract and this bid is within the adopted budget and no.

W

Additional funds will be necessary. Gentlemen. uh The gentleman I drive is located in the freedom.

X

District off of off of macbeth way on the south side of maryland 26. in general. As soon as sewer.

X

Piping ages, both the laterals that serve the residential users and the mains that collect.

X

And convey the wastewater are prone to underground soil, shifting and pressures. As this happens, the.

X

Pipe joints open ever so slightly and that allows fine fine message free roots to to enter into the.

X

Lines over time, this cannon does result in sewer blockages and backups. So the the this tree root.

X

Intrusion problem is occurring on the portion of gemini drive the the tail end of this drive.

X

As noted by the blue dots, um we are going to be lining the sewer laterals for each of those.

X

12 residential units, this mouse is driving me crazy. I don't know it's got a life of its own.

X

I think I have it back now. No, I don't yeah. It's not me. That's right! I'm sorry! Thank you. Chris.

X

um So we will we, we will be lining the laterals for the 12 houses, as well as the long mains and.

X

This short stub right here they they are having tree and tree root intrusion problems at this.

X

Time so the first step will will be a cleaning of the three roots. The second part is the lining.

X

Of the tree roots or the the lining of the lines to to keep the tree roots from from protruding in.

X

The future the bureau has a very good working history with this contractor and we do expect.

X

For the same high quality work to continue with this project, any questions for me is there. Oh, I'm.

G

Sorry honey: do you want to go ahead? Is there any idea of how many other intrusions either in this.

G

Area or other areas that there are at present uh not a not a good definite number, there are other.

X

Areas that we are aware of our issue is as the price tag with this. It is expensive. We do try and.

X

Stay on top of it, we do have a very small staff of employees who handle this type of work as well.

X

um We we can do some of the work internally, but for for scopes of work like like like this, we do.

X

Have the contract out, and so with prioritization of areas that are are how do you prioritize what.

G

Areas are are definitively in need of lining because of the intrusion versus say another.

G

Area as complaints uh a committing commissioner, we we assess the immediate area and if there is.

X

A history of three routes with a certain with a number of homes within that same area, we try and.

X

Do a collective project like this. Thank you very much. My question was going to be the the lining.

F

Does that positively prevent it slow it down? It's changed the likelihood and then I'm curious.

F

um Based on the commissioner's question, I don't know how many guys have seen what this looks like.

F

What the roots the web of roots looks like that literally block at a hundred percent, but could.

F

You kind of I mean it's not like. There's a root snaking through it's it's absolutely. It's fine.

F

Roots that are harps. Could you describe that, maybe briefly or what it is? It's basically, a matting of.

X

Of hair, like roots, it's a very thin messy type roots that do do, allow some some wastewater to.

X

To to pass through, but but eventually as they grow and expand, it basically blocks the entire pipe up.

X

um The sewer laterals that serve the residential units, they basically have two clean outs, so the.

X

County owns and maintains the the suction of lateral from the sewer main to the first.

X

Clean out anything beyond the first cleanup back towards the house is, is homeowner responsibility.

X

Thank you and your other question was um just the lining. uh Do you think how you.

F

Know is that 90 80 100, uh does it slow it down, or does it really really prevent it.

F

So so so so the installation of the original piping, it's pipe suction. So there are joints.

X

The lining is actually one continuous piece of fusible material. There are no joints in.

X

It and and it will not allow any any roots and as expectedly expected lifespan of at least 50 years.

X

Thank you, the I'm. Sorry go ahead. No! No! So I'm just trying to actually understand that this.

D

This process- I I mean- I know jim and I drive- isn't the oldest street in in south carroll.

D

So why why is this happening now and we're kind of mitigating? uh What can we do to avoid future.

D

Situations like this, it sounds like it's a tree issue. That's an interesting question.

X

um Part of the problem may be with the quality of of the backfill. If the backfill wasn't very.

X

Firm, there might be some pipe shifting as the settlement does occur. The other issue is the.

X

Types of trees that are planted above the pipes if they are trees that have the fine messy root.

X

System that loves water, they may try and find their way in more quickly than than.

X

Other types of trees there there is a history of of blockages throughout this general area,.

A

Well, good questions: okay, any further questions.

A

I'll move that to commissioner's award contract to the purchase or for the.

A

Purchase of replacement chemical feed system now I apologize I'm one ahead. Sorry about that.

A

Let's try this one: that the board of commissioners awarded a contract for.

A

The cleaning and lining of sewage, laterals and mains on gen mile drive to pbp underground llc.

A

In the amount of ninety two thousand thirty, ninety two thousand thirty five dollars.

A

Second, okay: I got a motion a couple of seconds any further discussion, one more quick question.

F

I'm curious of this I think they're, a relatively local company, which is nice. That is correct.

F

um How many bids do you get on? This is pretty specialized, so this was a term contractor so.

F

Okay, so we are authorized to go up to a hundred thousand dollars. I believe I think it's 100.

W

150 but they're on our term list, they were competitively, they bid. We do have.

W

A list of term contractors that we keep those on and every uh it's usually at one year and.

W

Then a four-year additional renewal options that we have. We do encourage.

W

um The different agencies to solicit quotes from each of the con at least three contractors that.

W

Doesn't we recommend that, just because they've taken the time to submit the proposals to us.

W

um But it's not, we don't always have to solicit for quotes, based on the fact that they are a.

W

Term contractor okay, so so this is, they are a term conscious. They are a term contractor. Yes,.

A

Okay, any other comments just got you all in favor, aye, okay,.

A

Now, let's talk about the fair haven, well, house replacement chemical feed system. Gentlemen, if I.

X

May indulge I'd like to take a few minutes to talk about the freedom district, water service.

X

Area in general that will tie into the ferry of the wall house conversation very very easily.

X

um The uh the um the freedom water service, as per this first slide, consists of of the freedom, water.

X

The freedom district, water treatment plant, three water storage tanks, which are liberty.

X

Martz and linton a booster pump station at the martz tank that feeds the linton or the high.

X

High elevation zone part of the system, as well as the fair, the fairhaven well house, the um the the.

X

Water system itself serves the eldersburg and town sykesville area. There are approximately.

X

8 500 water user accounts on on the system. 338 of these are commercial and the rest are residential.

X

um The the low level the low elevation zone has a has a water storage tank overflow elevation.

X

Of 737 feet, the high elevation zone is about approximately 60 feet higher and.

X

Over tops at 795 feet, so there there's two two distinct areas of pressure throughout.

X

The the of the freedom district and I'll talk more about that in a few seconds.

X

um The next slide does show our freedom, water treatment plant. It's located at the end of.

X

Oakland road on on the reservoir and by agreement with the city of baltimore, the county, both leases.

X

The property, as well as purchases raw raw water from the city for processing- I know that's a very.

X

Delicate sort of topic here in the county, but they do have ownership rights of the reservoir and we.

X

Do purchase the raw water from them? The plant has the capacity to process, 4 million gallons.

X

Of raw water into processed water each day, and it currently operates at a at a uh an average.

X

Of about 2.1 million gallons per day that that that's the draw from the from the service area.

X

The next slide shows the liberty, water storage tank. It has a capacity of one million gallons. It.

X

Was most recently repainted in 2020 and, as I said earlier, it has an overflow elevation of 737 feet.

X

Our next slide is the martz water storage tank. It's located just uh just north of of piney run.

X

It also has a capacity of one million gallons, it was repainted in 2018, and this also uh holds.

X

The uh booster pump station that transmits water from the low elevation zone to the high zone and.

X

The linton storage tank- the next slide- does show our linton storage tank. It's located.

X

Across from century high school- and this was um it's programmed to be repainted in 2025 or.

X

2026 as a cat has the capacity of half a million gallons, and it's also the the the the location.

X

For both bulk water facility or commercial haulers and water tankers draw water off.

X

uh The next slide shows our fairhaven well house site. This well house has been offline since 2019.

X

Due to reasons due to issues regarding the existing chemical feed systems, as well as.

X

Some delays involving the acquisition of our springfield wells from the state of maryland, with.

X

Your approval of the next three agenda items- the fair haven facility- will be brought back online.

X

And it will be used to process water, groundwater from well 22b, which is right right in this.

X

Area and um it has a maryland department of the environment, authorized appropriation amount of 227.

X

000 gallons per day, which is approximately 10 percent of our current needs. Also, this.

X

Location with an expanded, well house in in the future will will be used as a treatment facility.

X

For springfield wells, 24b and or 24, which is immediately north of this across the across.

X

Piney run um just south of london newton, just north of bonnie run. Let's, let's leave it at that.

X

um And the next slide shows the fairhaven well house itself. That's maryland 32 right here and.

X

This this picture is kind of hard to pick up on. That's the actual, well 22b! It's located.

X

On the uh southwest corner of the facility, approximately right here in the upper picture.

X

So that pretty much wraps up my my 30 000 foot, that's where the guy sells the bonsai trees, yeah.

A

So if anybody goes down 32 across from an old neighborhood of john buck's house across the.

A

Street small little street gentleman sells bonsai trees out of his car right there. So.

A

On 32. and just oh, please: well, we do our lease this property we're in year, 22 of a 40-year lease.

X

um It's an interesting concept that we're dealing with right now as well. The other.

A

Kind I just want to make is um to make sure we're all understanding on the same machine music. One.

A

Definitely recommend if you get the opportunity to go out to the freedom treatment facility.

A

Just to understand it on the liberty, reservoir liberty, reservoir controlled by baltimore city.

A

um The environmental police there's four of them. I think four or five that monitor the.

A

Trails on both carroll county side and there's that, but we care about obviously carroll county.

A

Side, they monitor the trails they have just down the road from the treatment facility, a.

A

Motor pool uh whatever you call parking lot motor pool and, as you also have a.

A

Boat there in case there's a need for them to get into the water. uh They have access to get.

A

In through you know, in a partnership with with us to get into the reservoir from the freedom.

A

Treatment facility, it's just it's a nice collaborative approach. You know, do a ride along.

A

With those guys, as long also to see understand the trails and some of the concerns they have.

A

We're working a lot with um baltimore city dpw, because that's who owns that property to allow us.

A

To use those trails and not try to shut them off, because a lot of folks like to use those.

A

Trails like to fish and walk their dogs and run hike and ride, and all that kind of stuff. So just.

A

Another jewel we have unfortunately not controlled all by us, but.

X

Yeah water plant is about 12 years old. It works fantastically well. The superintendent uh will.

X

Be thrilled to give tours of our facility, so please reach out to me if you're interested.

Q

And if you're really lucky, you can take a tour of this wastewater treatment plant that we run in hampstead.

X

That's also state of the arts. It's brand new, I'm a game. I've been to them before I'll. Do.

G

It again yeah, okay, so with that I'll turn it over to kerry. For the first of our three items.

W

Commissioners, we're here to request your approval to where the contract of the purchase.

W

Of the replacement chemical feed system for the fairhaven well house to enw equipment, company.

W

Llc and the amount of forty two thousand three hundred dollars, this will be made via a sole.

W

Source, this bid amount is within the adopted budget and no additional funds will be necessary.

X

Gentlemen, that's per my my briefing a few seconds ago, the fairhaven wall house, which.

X

Was constructed in 1999 and taken off offline in 2019, primarily due to staff's concerns regarding.

X

The in-place chemical feed systems- we have one of those chemical systems here and the next slide.

X

We'll we'll show the second, the the first slides, so the sodium hypochlorite chemical feed, chlorine.

X

The the those current slide shows the hydrofluor, fluorosilic acid or fluoride feed systems and.

X

These were not connected on in a flow flow-based dosing system with the original layout, the the new.

X

Chemical feed systems will be directly connected to the well pump flow meter. This will ensure both.

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A consistent dosing rate of application, as well as chemical feed systems, shut down when the well.

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Pump is not in use. uh Furthermore, the sodium hypochlorite system will have a self-purging.

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Pumps pump head that will prevent the dosing pump from binding up as this one currently does.

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Finally, the new chemical feed systems will be able to be monitored from the freedom, water treatment.

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Plant via a scada system that is not currently in place with, with the with the existing wellness, the.

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Lead time for one of the pieces is approximately 20 weeks. The other parts are six to eight weeks.

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Out and this item is for the purchase only of the new chemical feed systems, installation.

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Will be by the by the contractor that we talked about in item number nine. Any questions for me.

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Well, just interesting, it's on a five gallon bucket or whatever. That is.

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And it looks like some plywood, maybe yeah I'll, speak more about the the the the white flaking or.

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Etching in our next uh presentation, the um the the interior of our well house is extremely.

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Impacted by the the chemical residue, that's in the air and has caused major issues and.

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There's something to look forward to move the board of commissioners award a contract for.

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The purchase of the replacement chemical feed system, fair haven, well, house, two e w equipment.

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Company llc, in the amount of forty two thousand three hundred dollars.

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Second, I got a motion I got. A second is ring discussion on this. All in favor, aye, aye, aye, okay,.

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Our second item, commissioners, um our second request.

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Our second request is uh requesting your approval to award the contract for the purchase and.

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Installation of the replacement control panels for the well height fairhaven, well house, to imacs.

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Incorporated in the amount of fifty four thousand two hundred fifty nine dollars and seven cents.

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This award is also being made from a competitive, celebrity bid term contract. The bid amount is.

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Within the adopted budget and no additional funds will be necessary. Gentlemen, I have three.

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Slides that that show the uh the the age of the existing uh um control panels, the first one is.

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The one that's in the best shape there is some rust at the bottom here. The second and third.

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Ones so major rusting and and chemical etching, the interiors of these control panels appear the same.

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As the exterior they they are in very bad shape, um so the uh the control panels are essentially the.

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The brains of our well house, as the name implies everything within the well house, is controlled by.

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The various three panels, the the panels, have been heavily etched and corroded over time. uh The new.

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Control panels will be constructed of stainless steel. They they will have a much longer life span.

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To them, but but they they indeed, they too will indeed be impacted by chemical etching, and that.

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As as they age, this item includes the furnishing installation, programming, testing and training for.

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The replacement control panels these these panels will also be able to be monitored from the freedom.

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Water treatment plant via the scada system that I spoke about previously, the contractor imax- is.

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Is the one is one that the bureau uses often and they have very- um they have a very good working.

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Setup with us, they they respond to many needs on our water treatment plant during off hours as well.

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Any questions how many similar situations regarding some of this hardware and electrical.

D

Work is exists throughout the county. I mean I'm assuming you're keeping up keeping up with the.

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Various well houses that are not part of the municipalities and yes have them on a schedule.

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We we have for the freedom district. We have the fairhaven well house, which we're trying to regret.

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Bring back online, we have the rain cliff well house, which you'll hear me talk about as the.

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Months, go by. We also have two smaller systems in in your your district to mr vigliotti in pleasant.

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Valley and in bark hill they each have their their own set of control panels as well. So we have to.

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Keep an eye on those, and we are. We also have 23 wastewater pumping stations that each have their.

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Their own control panels, some of those are very aged you'll you'll, hear me speak about a several.

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Of those in the upcoming months as well, um we we've got recent issues with the carroll highlands.

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Pumping station that that the previous board gave approval for for some some major changes to them.

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um And also the the two big treatment plants, the water treatment plant and the wastewater.

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Treatment plant has some major uh moon control panels that we keep a close eye on.

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uh For the towns and the people like me who live in the towns, are they.

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That's this is their. These issues are completely separate for them. You're, not that's correct. We.

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We have the the freedom waters district, the sewage district, the hampstead sewage, sewage.

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Area as well as uh pleasant valley, water and sewer and bark hill, water.

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And and the the other parts within carroll county are on the towns and cities, it's on them.

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Thank you. It's a lot. Yeah.

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um Motion, I'm sorry, I apologize just real quick. How old is this? This is, it was built.

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In 1999, it's about 22, 23 years old, we're in the year 22 of a 40-year release; okay, okay, thanks.

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Motion to award a contract for the purchase and installation of the replacement control panel to.

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The fairhaven well house to imax incorporated in the amounts of fifty four thousand two hundred to.

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Fifty nine dollars and seven cents. Second, I got a motion. You got a second any further discussion.

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On this all in favor all right: okay, let's talk about the fairhaven, well house, removal and or.

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Installation of various components, commissioners, our final request- will be for your approval to.

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Award contract for the removal and installation of various replacement components for the fairhaven.

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Wheelhouse to mid-atlantic utilities, incorporated in the amount of twenty eight thousand sixty.

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Dollars, mid-atlantic utilities is one of our competitively bid term contractors. This amount is.

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Within the adopted budget and no additional funds will be necessary. Gentlemen. This item is basically.

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A catch-all for the removal and or installation of all the parts of the well house that we're.

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Not spoken about in the previous two items, the the county is basically serving as the general.

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Econ the general contractor for this project, so we are seeing a major cost savings by by doing so, the.

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Scope of work is summarized on the briefing paper and includes the removable and or installation of.

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The of the smaller panels and controls, removal of existing chemical storage tanks, the installation.

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Of chemical feed pumps, the removal and replacement of an exhaust fan, which is pictured right here,.

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A thermostat and eye wash station, that's our eye wash station here you can tell by the by the floor.

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It's some pretty pretty lousy, shape installation of new chemical feed lines, a sample tap a pressure.

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Gauge assembly, air release, piping and finally, the installation of a new four inch flow meter.

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The contractor for for this work, as kerry said, is, is mid-atlantic. They are a term contractor.

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As well, they have been involved with many of the bureau's projects over my tenure here and.

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Is the name that you will see frequently for a wide variety of projects, they're.

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The work that they do for us is outstanding. Any questions for me with respect to this.

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Nope I'll move that to the board of commissioners award contract for the purchase.

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And installation of various replacement components, as outlined in the briefing for the fairhaven well.

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House to mid-atlantic utilities, incorporated in the amount of twenty eight thousand sixty dollars.

Y

Second, I got a motion. I got a second any discussion on this watching hear none all in favor.

A

All right, thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you and kerry. Thank you very much. Okay,.

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um The gentleman was here was he here for public comment? I don't know he's not here at the moment.

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I didn't notice, did he just leave? He just walked out. I know he he just walked out, but I'm wondering.

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So we'll afford me opportunity if he comes back but uh chris anybody on the line.

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L

Chris, no sir, I have nobody on the line today. Okay, um mr belk, you want to say anything you.

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Know a couple days past your birthday figure you'd want to share. You know related to you as.

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Well, sir, okay, but I was born on friday, the 13th I don't know about you there you go so you're 59.

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Okay, what I need now is uh for us in open admin, the first time we're doing it. Take.

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A look at the closed minutes for land acquisition and I need a motion. Second.

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And approval of those closed minutes you'll see right past the yellow folder in the open admin.

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It was a december 8th, planned acquisition. Do I have a motion to approve those minutes.

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Motion to approved minutes. Second, I got a motion and a second proving the.

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December 8th, closed land acquisition, no discussion, all in favor aye.

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Okay, at this time, is there anything for open admin? Well, you can come on up um that. We want to discuss.

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I will share with you that we will be uh after this going back into well going into.

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Close excuse me and uh we'll take a break between now and closed for a little bit and.

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um Yeah, we'll just go from there: um okay agendas, monday december 19th, wow.

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There's a meeting with uh commissioner vigliotti, but I believe it's commissioner figliadi and.

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Commissioner, gordon correct that's correct, yes uh at 9, 00 a.m with uh island, green and it'll be.

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Held in the conference room, room 300 on tuesday uh is a change in the schedule it was uh earlier, but.

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Now it's um at 11 30 on tuesday december 20th, the senior inclusion program holiday, luncheon.

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Over westminster senior center commissioners, gordon garen and I will be attending.

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And then at 2pm is a veterans advisory meeting where commissioner, gordon and kyler will be.

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Attending there's also a lunch that day, I see the 11 30 or 12 over at the american legion for the.

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Veterans advisory, it's a holiday lunch for them. So I don't know if commissioner kyler, you got the.

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Word on that or not, but you know the two of you may also be attending that as well um wednesday.

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December 21st there's a carroll county, employee holiday luncheon over at the shipley arena.

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Currently, I got commissioner kyler and I attending if there's anyone else, just let us know and then.

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At 5 pm on the 21st is the carroll county carroll community college board of trustees. Meeting on.

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I'm attending no wasn't it last night: yeah 21st yeah there isn't another one. Is there.

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And they're skipping january yeah, okay, so I'm not attending that. um However, there is- and please get.

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The details: okay, a board of education budget meeting on the 21st that I will be attending.

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um I just don't know the time three o'clock: three: okay, so 3 p.m, and then at 7 p.m. On.

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Wednesday december 21st, commissioner, gearing, will enjoy attending the emergency services advisory.

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Council, actually there will not be a meeting in december. There will not be a meeting in december.

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Okay, well, so then you won't enjoy. You will not enjoy, don't enjoy the meeting, but I will enjoy.

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The one in january, okay, on thursday december 22nd, will be an open session uh 9 a.m and.

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Oh we're gonna reappoint we're going to consider reappointing jennifer hobbs as tax collector. I.

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Can almost guarantee it's a 99.99, but that's okay, installation of lighting and cape horn.

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Park, mr daggetts will discuss purchase of a 4 000 gallon vacuum tank from dpw and then.

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Approval to proceed with the purchase of furniture for the charles carroll community center project.

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And dpw will be discussing, I expect there may be a few other things to be added on the 22nd.

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But we'll see on friday the 23rd, the county offices will be closing at 12 pm and saturday.

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Nothing scheduled, and commissioner gordon has the christmas podcast on sunday december 25th.

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Going to the 26th, the county offices will be closed in observance of.

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The day before christmas, isn't that boxer day it's not what they call boxing day or boxer.

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That's british, I don't know when boxing day is it's around christmas, but I'm not sure like the.

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Day after I think it is boxing day, is it canada or there's somebody or something on the 26th, the.

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British, it's england, I don't know boxing day it was named because the servants got a chance to.

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Exchange their presence after the uh and it was manor house december 26th. I know these things.

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Come on now we're st stephen's day, if we want to really actually it's also uh hanukkah's, I.

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Think that's the last day of hanukkah. Also it was december 26th. I thought canada did something on.

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The 26th too well, I'm sure some of them celebrate hanukkah, but I don't know: okay, tuesday december.

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27 28 29th 30th 31st. We have nothing on the calendar. Third and january 1st. We will have a.

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Happy new year and commissioner garen will bring us into 2023 with the podcast.

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Okay, wow: that's a agenda that you know don't see often.

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What we need to do is.

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Do we you want to adjourn or adjourn, you need to close for a land acquisition and um and.

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Legal potential litigation matter, litigation, okay. So what we need is a motion to close.

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For land acquisition and potential litigation matter, potential litigation matter.

A

Right, okay, I guess I just made that motion. Is there a second.

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Second, okay: I got a motion. I got a second all in favor, aye.

A

Okay, what well, then, you need to oh recess. I apologize okay.

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Take that back and then I need a motion to research. Sorry, sorry.

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Okay, is there a second to motion to adjourn after all that, okay, all in favor, aye, okay,.