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From YouTube: Board of Zoning Appeals Morning of April 25, 2023
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K
To
the
board
first,
mr
podolac,
the
engineer
has
prepared
an
amended
zoning,
an
amended
drawing
to
demonstrate
this
property.
It
doesn't
move
any
of
the
proposed
the
proposed
building
or
the
location
of
the
tanks.
It
just
outlines
where
the
flood
plain
may
or
may
be,
may
or
may
not
be
approach.
I
have
multiple
copies.
I
don't
know.
Are
these
already?
Are
these
already
in
the
file
these
are.
K
These
are
not
so
go
ahead
and
give
those
to
mr
dixon
and
he
will
go
ahead
and
label
those
and
we'll
enter
those
into
evidence
and
then
the
other
item.
I
have
are
photographs
of
the
property
just
to
visualize
what
we're
talking
about
here.
So
I
can
forward
with
that
pair
of
copies
for
all
the
board
members
and
the
finals.
K
G
would
be
the
updated
drawing
okay
and
I
put
labels
on
the
bottom
right
now
and
we'll
go
ahead
and
enter
those
into
evidence.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
again.
I'll
call
my
first
witness
bud
haley
and
please
state
your
name
address
and
occupation
of
as
a
witness.
Yes,
sir,
my
name
is
bud
haley.
My
legal
name
is
walter
m
haley
iii,
and
I
am
the
president
of
great
valley,
propane
and
a
partner
in
route.
309
llc.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
K
L
That
just
delivers
to
the
homes
in
the
propane
business,
in
just
about
every
state
that
I
know
you
really
can't
very
difficult
to
be
in
business.
Without
a
bulk
storage
tank
facility,
the
terminals
do
not
allow
bobtails
to
go
in
and
load.
We
have
to
have
tractor
trailers
go
in
and
pick
up
the
product
and
you
need
to
transfer
that
product
to
your
own
bulk
storage
tanks.
You
know
in
one
way
it's
good,
but
in
another
way
it's
tough
because
of
the
expense,
but
it's
just
a
nature
of
the
business.
L
So
in
order
to
serve
customers,
you
know
competitively
and
correctly.
I
need
to
have
a
bulk
storage
facility
in
this
area.
Okay,
and
would
there
be
a
building
on
this
property
at
this
point
in
time?
I'm
not
looking
for
that
right
now
because
of
a
we're,
a
young
company
in
this
area
and
we're
growing
and
we
have
a
office
facility.
Now,
that's
is,
is
you
know,
working
out
and
a
possibility
of
another
one?
So,
okay,
we
don't
need
an
office
at
this
point
on
this
site.
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Okay,
but
it's
a
possibility-
and
you
understand
you
understand-
that
you
would
need
to
go
through
a
site
plan
process
and
permitting
to
do
that.
Absolutely
yes,
and
you
understand,
you
probably
need
a
water
allocation
from
the
city
of
westminster
and
things
of
that
nature.
Correct.
Would
this
be
a
retail
or
wholesale
station
that
we're
that
you're
building
here
wholesale
I
mean
no.
There
will
be
no
reason
for
anybody
to
come
there.
If
that's
what
you
mean
right.
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L
Current
volumes,
two
or
three
times
a
week,
maybe
okay
in
our
busy
season
and
how
many
times
would
a
bobtail
truck
come
through
this,
this
site
yeah,
hopefully
you
know
every
or
two
trucks,
maybe
once
or
twice
a
day.
Okay
and
what
times
a
day
would
they
would
they
come
through
the
site?
Typically,
the
trucks
are
loaded
in
the
afternoon
when
they're
done
to
route,
so
him
but
say
noon
to
noon
and
noon,
and
four
or
noon
and
five
or
something:
okay.
Okay,.
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K
And
then
a
bs
in
civil
engineering
from
bucknell
university
and
you've
testified
before
I
was
born
as
an
expert
witness
before.
Yes,
I
have,
and
you
prepared
you
prepared
the
drawing
as
it
relates
to
the
the
property
subject
as
petition
correct,
yes
and
I'd
offer
mr
podolac
as
an
expert
witness
of
the
board.
K
We
will
accept
him
as
an
expert
witness
in
the
fields
that
you
outlined,
mr
herf,
thank
you
and
mr
protolac
you've
prepared
the
drawing
that's
already
in
evidence,
as
exhibit
g,
but
I
have
it
out
in
front
of
us
both.
Is
this
a
true
and
accurate
copy
of
that
that
drawing
related
to
the
property?
Yes?
And
this
you
unders?
You
agree
that
this
is
a.
This
is
a
a
zoning
plot,
not
a
formal
site
plan.
Correct!
K
K
K
For
many
of
those
types
of
uses-
yes,
yes,
but
for
example,
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
put
a
large
manufacturing
plant
on
here
or
a
power
plant
or
things
that
are
very
large
in
size.
Correct.
Yes,
I
mean
the
the
site
itself
has
restrictions
with
respect
to
area
yep
and
you're
you're,
aware
of
the
different
requirements
of
the
county
code
in
terms
of
set
setbacks,
correct
yeah.
Yes,
now,
anticipating
a
question
from
mr
caswell,
I
understand
that
he's
the
owner
of
1201
new
windsor
road.
How
approximately?
K
K
Correct
the
minimum
it
would
be
100.
and
you'll
be
working
with
hilt's
propane,
the
the
the
the
company
that
will
install
the
the
mechanical
engineering
company
that
would
install
these
projects
with
the
the
the
state,
local
fire
codes
and
things
of
that
nature.
Correct.
Yes,
yes
and
we've
discussed
some
of
those
issues.
K
Will
understand
the
process
when
it's
over?
Oh,
yes,
sir,
go
to
the
microphone.
Please
state
your
name
address,
occupation
and
state
for
the
record,
your
last
or
spell
for
the
record,
your
last
name.
My
name
is
kelly:
riser
r-a-I-s-e-r,
I'm
one
of
the
employees
at
the
1201
new
windsor
site.
My
question
is
so
from
from
a
environmental
and
health
and
occupational
perspective.
K
K
P
P
K
K
K
K
Would
be
four
or
one
thousand
gallon
tanks?
You
know
without
without
that
safety?
You
know,
I'm
gonna
knock
on
wood
because
I
have
you
know
two
plants.
I
have
50
some
employees
and
there's
no
room
for
error
and
the
company
that
we
choose
to
build.
Our
propane
plant
is
literally
and
I'm
not
bragging,
but
they're
the
best
in
the
industry
and
they
don't
cut.
N
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K
I
also
would
point
out:
I
just
asked
the
board
to
take
administrative
notice
that
mcgregor
road
is
a
county
maintained
road
that
I
submit.
Okay,
you
want
to
go
ahead,
and
so
you
want
to
submit
that
case.
Absolutely.
I
only
have
one
copy
of
it,
so
I
would
be
happy
to
give
it
to
mr
dixon,
okay
and
we'll
go
ahead
and
accept
that
into
evidence.
K
And
when
you
look
at
some
of
the
permitted
industrial
uses,
they
are
much
less
intensity
than
what
what
we're
proposing
to
do
here.
You
know
without
getting
a
conditional
use
permission,
you
could
have
a
concrete
mixing
plan.
You
could
have
a
blast
furnace,
a
steel
mill,
a
heavy
manufacturing
facility,
a
commercial
sawmill,
coal
yard
power,
plant,
pelletized,
sewage
storage.
So
there's
lots
of
other
things
that
could
be
there.
That
would
be
much
more
adversely
impacting
the
neighborhood.
I
think
this
is
a
situation
where
we
have
a
quiet
neighbor,
not
a
high
traffic
situation.
K
L
K
Rather
small
in
size,
so
some
of
those
other
industrial
uses
really
wouldn't
be
well
suited
for
this
lot.
So
I
think
we
would
like
to
to
move
forward
with
something
that,
like
this
that'll
be
well
suited,
so
that
there
can
be
productive
use
of
that
that
piece
of
property
regarding
the
variance
request
that
I'm
reviewing
montgomery
county
versus
rot
wine
as
the
case
law
here
and
and
it's
our
position,
that
is
strict
compliance
with
the
900
foot.
K
So
really
the
tanks
are,
are
very
likely
to
be
way
way
outside
the
900
foot
range
there,
but
but
the
drive
may
be
approaching
that
900
foot
range
so
we're
talking
about
the
use
and
not
really
the
tanks
and
asking
for
that
variance,
and
I
think
it
would
compose
a
peculiar
or
practical
difficulty
on
the
petitioner
to
have
to
go
back
and
ask
for
a
variance
if
we
learn
the
slight
planning
process
that
you
know,
five
or
ten
more
feed
is
needed.
So
thank
you
for
your
time
appreciate
your
consideration
on
this
matt.
L
K
This
is
absolutely
an
appropriate
location
and
obviously
zoning
is
appropriate
as
well.
I
don't
have
any
safety
concerns
after
based
on
the
testimony
that
was
proffered.
I
don't
see
any
adverse
effects
above
and
beyond
those
normally
associated
with
such
a
use
and
by
all
appearances,
it
appears
to
me
that
the
variance
request
is
being
done
as
an
abundance
of
caution.
So
I'm
prepared
to
vote
in
favor
of
approving
this.
L
L
K
Large
tanks,
propane
tanks
existing
on
the
other
side
of
that
residence,
it's
actually
a
hill,
that's
between
them,
but
anyway,
so
propane
tanks
are
already
in
that
area.
There
are
no
county
setbacks
to
railroad
tracks
concerning
this
project.
That
was
one
of
the
things
that
was
raised.
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
bring
those
things
out
and
the
other
thing
is
that
could
have.
Could
it
the
tanks
be
moved
so
that
there
wasn't
a
concern
with
the
900?
L
L
They
meet
the
requirements
of
the
setbacks
within
that
ir
zone
and
that's
definitely
a
lot
closer
than
the
900
feet
away.
Residents.
Okay,
board
members:
we
do
this
in
two
steps:
first,
improving
the
variance
and
then
improving
the
non-conforming
use,
no
everything
alone.
You
can
do
it
all
together.
You
can
do
it
all
together,
so
you
don't
work.
Oh
am
I
doing
it?
Okay,
gotcha!
I
was
just.
I
was
just
asking
the
question
in
case
six,
four,
four
five:
I
move.
L
K
K
April
12
2023
letter
from
linda
d,
eisenberg
secretary
to
the
planning
commission
to
the
board
after
having
reviewed
the
information
contained
in
the
attached
analysis,
the
facts
that's
presented
in
the
application,
the
relevant
portions
of
the
plan
and
in
accordance
with
the
land,
use
article.
This
conditional
use
request
if
granted
is
not
inconsistent
with
the
policies.
Timing
of
the
implement
timing
of
the
implementation
of
the
plan,
timing
and
development,
timing
of
rezoning
development
patterns,
land
uses
and
densities
or
intensities.
There
is
a
april
17
2023
memo
from
andrew
r
gray,
comprehensive
planner.
K
Staff
finds
that
this
request
is
not
inconsistent
with
the
2014
carroll
county
master
plan,
as
amended
in
2019,
due
to
the
size
of
the
contractor's
equipment,
storage
area
being
approximately
three
times
the
size
of
what
is
currently
allowed
in
section
158.17382
could
potentially
have
an
adverse
effect
on
the
portion
of
the
property
located
in
the
adjacent
conservation
zone,
where
the
use
is
prohibited,
with
the
condition
that
a
site
plan
b
submitted
to
the
carroll
county
bureau
of
development
review
and
only
allow
this
use
on
the
portion
of
the
property
zone.
Agricultural.
K
There
is
a
response
to
joe
vance's
request
to
various
state
and
local
agencies
from
andrea,
hanley
carroll.
County
environmental
health
department
proposed
use
may
not
be
acceptable
unless
it
is
demonstrated
that
there
is
an
adequate
water
supply
and
adequate
area
for
the
installation
of
an
initial
and
two
replacement
septic
systems
for
the
proposed
use
in
any
existing
uses
of
this
property.
There
is
a
response
from
jay
voigt
zoning
administrator.
K
He
looks
at
the
section
158.040
distance
requirements
three
times
the
distance
on
adjoining
lots
of
three
acres
or
more
minimum
separation,
distance
of
at
least
300
feet
from
dwellings.
As
required
contractors
equipment,
storage
yard
must
be
located
only
in
the
agriculturally
zone
area.
There
is
a
no
march
30th
2023
letter
from
kelly
schaefer
miller
to
the
board.
It's
a
revised
explanation
of
requests
in
regard
to
the
application.
There
is
a
april
3rd,
2023
notice,
public
hearing
for
this
case
there's
a
response
to
joe
vance's
request
of
air
state
and
local
agencies.
K
From
laura
matthias
bureau,
chief
development
review
of
site
plan
shall
be
processed
in
accordance
with
chapter
155..
There's
a
response
to
joe
vance's
request
from
thomas
harris
permits
and
inspections.
The
two
buildings
located
in
the
storage
area
require
permits
and
approvals.
Additional
items
will
be
addressed
during
the
site
plan
and
building
permit
process.
There
is
a
response
from
janet
o'meara
bureau
chief
resource
management
see
attached.
Hearing
notice
was
posted
march
27
23
by
inspector
scott
robinson.
There
is
a
response
from
jp
smith,
jr
program
manager,
agland
preservation
program.
This
property
is
not
in
ag
preservation.
K
I
have
no
comments
at
this
time
and
there's
then
there's
the
application.
There's
march
2nd
2023
letter
from
clark
r
shaffer
to
the
board
filing
the
application.
There
is
a
february
23rd
2023
letter
from
kelly,
safer
miller
to
the
board,
and
there
is
a
plan
to
accompany
busier
application
from
rtf
associates
inc.
I
would
ask
that
the
board
enter
the
file
into
evidence
so
so
moved.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
move
the
following
evidence:
all
those
in
favor
aye
all
right
all
opposed.
No,
we
will
go
ahead.
K
And
move
the
file
into
evidence,
anyone
that
plans
on
testifying
in
case
number
6442.
Could
you
please
rise
and
raise
your
right
hand?
Okay,
do
you
swear
or
firm
under
the
penalties
of
perjury?
The
testimony
you're
about
to
give
is
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth.
Okay,
you
can
have
a
seat,
miss
miller.
Thank
you
good
morning,
mr
chair
members
of
the
board
kelly
schaefer
miller,
73
east
main
street
westminster,
maryland
21157.
I'm
here
this
morning
on
behalf
of
walter.
A
A
N
Of
within
this
area,
we
understand
that,
after
this
hearing,
if
this
use
is
approved,
that
we
will
go
through
any
required
process
there,
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
and
with
that
I
would
call
shorty
[
__
].
My
name
is
walter.
[,
__,
]
I've
lived
in
carroll
county
hold
on
hold
on,
don't
jump
the
gun.
Okay,
please
state
your
name
address
and
occupation
occupation
and
spell
for
the
record,
your
last
name,
all
right,
walter
t,
kuhn,
jr,
that's
c-o-n-3033,.
L
K
Years,
okay,
and
is
the
use
that
you're
requesting
here
today
substantially
similar
to
how
you've
been
using
it
for
those
30
plus
years?
Yes,
ma'am,
okay,
make
sure
you're
talking
into
this
shorty,
because
everybody's
got
to
hear
you
prior
to
filing
this
application.
Are
you
aware
of
any
neighbor
complaints,
or
have
you
ever
been
approached
by
a
neighbor
with
an
issue
as
a
result
of
your
use,
we're
going
to
walk
through
the
drawing
that
was
attached
as
part
of
this
application?
Just
briefly
to
describe
where
everything
is
so
shorty.
L
L
L
Attach
plan
yes,
ma'am,
okay,
and
then
that
other
area
is
showing
kind
of
the
storage
area
yard
correct.
Yes,
okay,
I
would
ask
that
applicants
exhibit
one
be
entered,
please.
We
will
accept
that
into
evidence.
Thank
you.
So,
thank
you.
Sorry,
thank
you.
Shorty,
I'm
showing
you
what
I've
marked
as
applicants
exhibit
2..
Can
you
just
take
a
flip
through
those
and
confirm
that
those
are
all
photographs
taken
of
the
site
or
at
the
site?
Please
everything
is
site.
Are
you
clearly
and
loudly
into
this
microphone?
Yes,
everything
is
here
is
from
the
site.
L
Accept
that
into
evidence,
thank
you
shorty.
Can
you
please
walk
us
through
just
a
typical
day
at
the
site.
What
would
we
see
if
we
were
observing
the
site?
You
started
to
get
into
it
and
you're
when
you
first
started,
but
just
back
up
and
say
it
again?
Okay,
so
you
know
employees,
I
just
come
up
there
around
6
30
7
o'clock.
You
know
we
load
up
stuff
from
the
site
from
the
field
there
and
then
we,
the
trucks,
leave
from
there
and
we
go
to
the
jobs.
A
K
K
What
they
saw
that
day
would
that
be
akin
to
what
they
would
see
on
any
average
day
at
the
site:
yeah
pretty
much
yep,
okay,
the
equipment,
that's
that
you're
taking
to
a
job
site,
is
that
being
taken
every
day
and
brought
back
to
your
site
every
day,
explain
a
little
bit
how
that
works
yeah
most
of
the
equipment.
We
take
it
to
a
job.
We
use
it
on
that
job.
Then
we
move
it
from
that
job
to
the
next
job.
K
So
that's
it
only
comes
back
if
we
need
to
do
a
little
bit
of
work
to
it
or
something
like
that,
but
mostly
it
goes
from
job
to
job
to
job
to
job.
You
know
like
say:
the
trucks
would
be
the
things
that
come
back
every
day
and
then
leave
every
day,
so
you're
handling
kind
of
incidental
maintenance
of
that
equipment
at
the
site.
K
But
aside
from
that,
any
big
maintenance
or
anything
that
required
more
intense
work
would
be
done
off-site
yes,
ma'am,
okay,
and
when
you
talk
about
the
line
of
work,
you
do
when
you
say
excavating.
Is
it
fair
to
say
that
mo
that
that
work
is
being
conducted
off-site?
Yes,
okay,
what
type
of
activity
if
any,
is
happening
outside
on
your
property
at
this
site,
just
mine
are
working
on
equipment
and
then
we
might.
We
stockpile
some
stone
there
and
boulders
there.
K
So
in
case
we
need
them
on
a
job
and
then
some
so
that
would
be
the
things
that
we
stockpile.
There
would
be
stone
dirt
and
then
we
load
it
up
and
haul
it
away.
So
the
outdoor
activity
is
primarily
storage
of
materials
and
then
employees,
loading
up
and
leaving
for
the
day
and
returning
correct
yes,
okay.
Now
what
about
inside?
What
type
of
activity
occurs
in
the
buildings
just
repairs?
K
Basically,
the
repairs
that
we
have
to
do:
we
do
it
in
the
shop
or
we
store
and
stuff
in
there
in
the
cold
weather
to
keep
it
from
freezing
and
stuff.
Like
that,
the
hours
of
operation,
you
talked
about
kind
of
the
the
times
of
day
that
your
employees
come
and
leave.
But
can
you
talk
with
me
specifically?
What
days
of
the
week
are
your
employees
coming
to
the
site
monday
through
friday,
okay,
ever
an
opportunity
for
potentially
a
half
a
day
saturday
or
something?
Oh
yeah?
K
Okay
now
do
you
how
many
employees
do
you
have
10
of
them
and
do
all
do
10
so
10,
including
yourself,
you
said,
okay,
so
do
10
employees,
including
yourself
report
to
the
site
daily?
Yes,
yes,
do
you
predominantly
employ
people
from
carroll
county
everybody
that
works
out
from
carroll
county
anybody
that
works
for
you
that
meets
direct
at
a
job
site
or
does
everybody
come
here?
K
We've
got
a
few
people
that
go
directly
to
the
job
search
department
equipment,
okay,
any
deliveries
that
occur
to
this
site
that
are
kind
of
out
of
the
ordinary,
like
huge
materials
deliveries
or
anything
like
that
that
you're
getting
on
a
regular
basis.
We
have
some
material,
delivered
there,
maybe
twice
three
times
a
week
other
than
that
we
don't
really
have
a
whole
bunch
of
deliveries
made
to
the
all
the
materials
usually
taken
right
to
the
job,
who
have
any
customers
that
come
to
the
site,
I'm
very
seldom.
K
They
might
come
out
there
once
in
a
while
or
give
me
a
set
of
plans
or
would
pay
us
so
so
you're
not
encouraging
customer
activity
to
the
site,
though
oh
no
okay
nobody's
coming
there
as
a
retail
type
business
to
look
at
material.
Okay,
are
you?
Do
you
light
the
site
with
anything
greater
than
kind
of
residential
style
lighting?
Currently,
do
you
have
any
lighting
of
the
site?
That's
greater
than
house
at
this
point
in
time.
No,
okay,
are
you
requesting
any
signage
as
part
of
your
use?
K
K
K
Thank
you,
shorty,
I'm
showing
you
a
copy
of
the
same
two
letters
that
mr
dixon
just
introduced
and
the
third
that
you
just
referenced
from
mr
richard
correct,
okay
and
then
the
first
page
of
this
that
I've
marked
as
applicants
exhibit
three
is
just
a
visual
showing
where
those
people
are
in
relation
to
your
property.
Correct,
yes,
okay!
Does
that
accurately
depict
the
location
to
your
the
best
of
your
knowledge?
Yes,
it
does.
I
would
ask
that
this
be
entered,
as
applicants
exhibit
three.
We
will
accept
that
into
evidence.
K
I
have
no
further
questions
of
mr
kuhn
at
this
point.
Does
anyone
from
the
audience
have
any
questions
of
mr
coons
testimony
and
again
just
of
his
testimony
board
members
any
questions
of
mr
coons
testimony
mr
caldwell
good
morning,
sir,
how
you
doing
just
a
quick
question:
do
you
anticipate
an
increase
in
the
amount
of
traffic
that
you
generate
from
your
business
as
a
result
of
these
changes?
It
doesn't
really
increase
it.
K
I
mean
we
come
in
in
the
morning
we
leave
in
the
evening,
because
that
was
that
the
question
I
think
he
was
asking:
are
you
anticipating
any
increase
to
traffic
as
a
result
of
this
request?
Is
that
correct?
That's
it!
Thank
you
all
right
thanks
the
question
I'd
have.
Is
I
see
the
content?
Storage
yard
is
two
point.
Eight
acres,
I
believe,
what's
the
size
of
the
entire
parcel,
my
entire
parcel
that
I
that
my
house
in
the
shop
were
on
is
like
27
and
a
half
acres
and
just
a
follow-up
question.
K
What's
the
acreage
of
the
additional
[
__
]
property,
there
is
identified
approximately
33
acres
of
an
additional.
So
traditionally,
a
contractor
storage
yard
is
two
acres
in
the
ag
zone.
One
acre
one
acre
we're
requesting
2.8.
Could
you
elaborate
on
why
why
the
request
is
for
that?
The
2.8
is
because
compared
to
one
acre,
I
will
ask
mr
kuhn
to
state
anything.
He
has
to
offer
there,
mr
bale,
but
I
will
also
be
calling
john
lemerman
from
rtf
as
well,
in
this
case,
okay.
K
Okay,
any
other
questions
board
members
last
question
the
existing
buildings
that
have
been
built,
the
metal
buildings
how
long
ago,
how
long
have
they
been
there?
Well,
the
original
building
has
been
there
for
probably
25
years
and
the
other
one's
been
there,
probably
for
two
years,
I'm
leaving
all
right.
Thank
you
any
other
questions.
Thank
you
very
much,
miss
miller.
You
want
to
call
your
next
witness.
Thank
you.
K
I
would
next
call
mr
john
lemerman,
mr
lemmerman,
can
you
please
introduce
yourself
stating
your
name,
spelling
your
last
name
and
address
for
the
record
s?
Mr
lemmerman,
have
you
appeared
before
this
board
previously?
Yes,
I
have.
I
am
prepared
to
qualify
mr
lemmerman
if
this
board
wishes.
But
if
you
are
amenable,
I
would
ask
that
he'd
be
qualified
as
an
expert
in
the
area
of
surveying
land
use,
design
and
planning.
Based
on
his
past
appearances
before
this
board,
we
will
accept
him
as
an
expert
witnesses
witness
in
those
fields
based
on
his
previous
testimony.
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
lemmerman.
Were
you
present,
and
did
you
hear
all
of
mr
kuhn's
testimony
in
this
case?
Yes,
and
were
you
asked
to
prepare
the
drawing
that
accompanied
this
application?
Yes,
I
was
in
preparing
that
drawing
did
you
take
a
look
at
the
zoning
natural
features,
topography
of
this
property
in
the
surrounding
area?
Yes,
I
did,
can
you
tell
us
what
zone
this
property
is
in
sure
the
the
contractor
storage
yard
itself
area
is
in
the
agricultural
zone
immediately
to
the
north
of
that
is
all
agricultural.
K
The
immediate
south,
including
the
majority
of
the
the
27,
acre,
parcel
that
it
sits
on
the
majority
of
that
is
conservation
to
the
south
and
east
and
west,
and
then
there's
the
industrial
zone
directly
to
the
west
across
the
street.
Thank
you
very
much,
which
was
the
mt
laney
property
that
is
owned.
Industrial
I
won
that
was
mentioned
earlier,
mr
lemmerman
you're,
looking
at
what
I've
just
presented
as
applicants
exhibit
four.
Is
that
just
a
visual
depiction
of
the
county
zoning
map?
K
K
Zone
and
immediately
to
the
south,
east
and
west
and
the
green
is
conservation
zone,
and
then
the
industrial
zone
across
the
street
to
the
west
is
in
purple,
and
I
know
mr
[
__
]
stated
it,
but
can
you
confirm
what
the
acreage
of
the
subject
property
is?
Yes,
that
is
27.2606
acres?
Have
you
personally
visited
the
site?
Yes,
I
have.
Are
you
aware
of
how
this
site
accesses
how
the
site
is
accessed?
Yes,
I
am
okay.
K
What
road
does
it
access
to
salem
bottom
road
and
to
your
knowledge,
is
that
a
county
maintained
road?
It
is,
and
are
you
aware
of
whether
sail
and
bottom
is
built
to
county
specifications?
I
believe
it
is
yes,
okay,
based
on
the
type
of
traffic
that
you've
heard
testified
to
here
today.
Do
you
believe
that
sale
and
bottom
is
capable
of
handling
that
type
of
traffic?
K
Yes,
I
do
now
you're
aware
that
the
applicant
has
requested
a
few
variances
variances
as
part
of
this
application,
correct,
correct,
okay,
so
just
to
review
them
one
one
more
time.
One
is
the
area
variance
for
the
yard.
One
is
the
access
drive,
variance
if
necessary,
and
one
is
the
distance
variance.
If
necessary.
Are
you
familiar
with
the
carroll
county
zoning
code?
Yes,
can
you
tell
us
whether
a
contractor's
equipment,
storage
yard
is
an
allowed
conditional
use
in
the
ag
and
conservation
districts
it
is
in
the
agricultural
zone?
K
I
do
not
believe
it
is
in
the
conservation
zone.
Okay,
because
this
property
is
split
zoned.
Is
it
accurate
to
say
that
the
location
of
the
contractor's
yard
is
the
only
location
on
the
site
where
it
would
be
allowed?
Yes,
okay,
this
is
it
unique
to
have
a
property?
That's
split,
zoned,
like
this
fairly
unique.
Typically,
the
zoning
maps
follow
boundaries
property
lines.
Is
it
additionally
unique
to
have
a
use
on
a
property
that's
allowed
in
one
portion
of
the
property,
but
not
another?
Yes,
meaning
oftentimes.
K
When
you
see
two
similar
districts
there's
the
same
uses
that
are
allowed
in
both
correct.
If
you
look
at
the
zoning
code
right,
is
there
anywhere
else
on
this
ag
zoned
portion
of
the
property
where
we
could
locate
this
use
so
as
not
to
need
a
distance
variance?
No,
I
believe
now
that
the
threshold's
900
feet
okay,
having
accessed
and
visited
this
site
personally,
can
you
say
whether
there's
plenty
of
space
on
the
driveway
for
someone
to
pull
over
if
necessary?
K
Yes,
yet
there's
several
areas
that
are
widened
at
the
bottom,
about
halfway
up
at
the
bend,
there's
a
plenty
of
space
and
and
at
the
top.
So
yes
do
you
believe
there
will
be
any
access
issues
as
a
result
of
the
width
of
the
the
drive
as
it
as
it
exists
today
I
don't
anticipate
any
no.
If
we
were
required
to
widen
the
drive.
Would
that
also
result
in
additional
impervious
surface
yes
and
disturbance,
and
that
would
what
would
the
impact
of
that
be?
K
Just
generally
speaking,
generally
speaking,
we're
adjacent
to
morgan
run,
which
is
a
why
it's
the
majority
of
the
property's
own
conservation,
to
begin
with,
there's
some
very
steep
slopes
that
are
involved
so
and
during
the
site
plan
process,
a
lot
of
that
will
be
probably
conserved
in
water
resource
protection
easements.
So
disturbance
is
generally
frowned
upon
in
those
areas
in
terms
of
the
existing
storage
yard.
As
mr
bale
pointed
out,
it's
two
it's
approximately
2.8
acres
in
size.
You
understand
that
there
will
be
a
site
plan
required
after
this
process.
K
Correct,
yes,
okay!
Is
that
area
already
disturbed
to
the
point
of
requiring
the
site
plan.
I
mean
it.
Would
there
be
any
benefit
to
bringing
that
in
or
is
it
already
kind
of
existing
gravel
and
the
buildings?
It's
all
existing
to
answer
the
question.
The
area
disturbances
with
certain
agencies
like
forest
conservation
and
stormwater
management
are
based
on
accumulative
disturbances.
They
have
the
word
accumulative
in
there,
so
they
do
look
at
dated
aerials.
A
G
C
C
J
A
J
A
Acts
meetings
act
of
maryland.
The
board
will
now
consider
the
case
mr
colwell,
going
out
to
the
site
visit.
I
was
totally
unaware
mr
[
__
],
that
you
operated
business
there.
It's
you
know
it's
idyllic
setting,
it's
yes
to
me!
It's
zero
impact
on
the
appearance
in
the
neighborhood.
It's
a
very
nice
indeed
facts
that
you've
lived
there
you're,
obviously.