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From YouTube: Board of Zoning Appeals, September 27, 2022
Description
A
A
meeting
to
order
here
this
morning,
and
our
first
case
on
our
agenda
is
stairs
valley,
high
farms.
B
She
states
the
staff
finding
is
the
oh.
She
states
that
the
above
reference
bza
case
has
been.
B
B
B
B
B
Hearing
notice
was
published
in
the
paper
september
5th
2022.
B
B
Has
to
be
submitted
to
the
for
the
review
of
development
review.
A
Make
sure
that
you've
done
that
for
for
this
case,
mr
stair,
you
can
come
to
any
one
of
the
tables.
A
There
and
as
you
do
that
before
you
sit
down
I'll,
go
ahead
and
have
you
take
the
oath.
A
Here,
which
will
be
both
of
you
guys
I'll
wait
for
mr
cribbs
there
to
sign
in.
A
A
Out
there
at
hughes
shop
road
and
then
after
your
testimony,
the
board
members
since
there's
no.
A
Opportunity,
if
you
want
mr
krebs
to
talk
to,
let
him
speak
to
the
project
and
then
you'll.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
He
was
a
skeptical
at
first
until
he
saw
the
soil
was
so
bad.
It
turns
out
grapes,
love
bad
soil.
C
C
That
stone
literally
sitting
we're
sitting
on
a
big
pile
of
stone
and
but
we're
sitting.
C
C
And
they
all
grew,
they
all
grew
like
crazy.
The
following
year,
I
put
in
a
large
section
of
merlot.
C
C
C
C
C
This
throughout
the
throughout
the
state,
because
I've
been
going
to
meetings
for
three.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
There's
a
big
winery
we're
we're
on
the
line
of
the
small
wineries.
Our
goal
was
to
sell,
maybe.
C
C
C
C
C
D
Thank
you
for
your
presentation,
also
when
I'm
out
in
a
site
visit
to
look
at
it.
That's.
D
C
C
D
C
We
use
weiss
miller
as
our
attorneys
for
our
ag
for
our
land
stuff
and
we're
all
in
the.
C
Unfortunately,
I
have
an
older
brother
who's
passed
away.
He
was
a
realtor
and
would
have
sold.
C
C
C
C
When
dad
did
the
original
deeds,
he
set
it
up.
So
all
the
all,
the
all
the
all
of
our
roads.
C
A
A
C
C
Wants
to
do
it,
so
we
actually
expect
her
to
get
more
involved
this
coming
year.
I
think
she.
C
Was
kind
of
scared
with
her
time,
but
we've
got
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
18
kids
running.
C
Justin,
I
can
keep
an
eye
on
him,
but
but
the
reality
is
he's
actually
really
gotten
into
it.
C
And
david's
one
daughter
wants
to
do
it,
and
so
we
have
our
own
internal
wine
makers,
but
they
they.
C
C
A
Us
putting
a
limit
of
12
events
per
year,
end
of
10
o'clock,
cut
off
time
for
music
no
issue
at
all.
C
C
C
C
Using
it,
we
expect
this
to
be
a
daylight
thing,
and
we
we
experience
the
open
air
noise
issues
that.
C
C
A
A
A
C
A
You
anticipate
size,
I'm
sorry,
the
number
of
people
that
would
be
attending
150
to
200..
I.
C
Puts
us
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
75
to
maybe
120
140
people
right
and
50
50
would.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
E
Not
a
strange
question,
probably
more
for
melvin,
we
had
family
photos
taken
and.
E
E
C
C
C
C
A
that
was
a
the
maryland
winery
association.
Kevin
addicks
is
the
president
and
he
come.
C
I
don't
know
that
it
would
be
an
event
to
to
have
that
service.
It's
more
of
a
it's
more
of
a.
C
Service
than
an
event
right,
and
I
think
like
like
with
the
winery
itself,
the
question
becomes,
if.
E
E
Alcohol
there
was
no
drinks,
there
was
nothing,
so
it
was
just
curious.
It's
a
good
question.
I
I
I.
C
C
More
in
a
great
business,
but
I
don't
drink
wine
that
much
I
can
drink
it.
I
can
tell
you
what
it
is.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
G
C
C
C
C
C
G
H
H
G
We,
you
know
we
can
send
in
information
to
request
the
variance
for
that,
like
I
say,
as
far
as
the.
H
G
G
A
A
Now
closed
and
some
nations
are
in
order,
mr
stair,
any
summation
comments.
I
just
appreciate
you.
C
All
taking
the
time
to
meet
with
us,
I
think
that
again,
this
is
this
is
something
that
you're.
C
C
C
A
D
Very
thorough
in
that
respect,
you
know,
as
I
said
earlier,
looking
at
the
property.
D
That
you
need
to
do
this
to
survive
and
to
keep
the
farm
as
it
is.
So
I
think
that's.
D
D
D
C
A
D
A
H
Of
being
surrounded
by
family
property
yeah
it
kind
of
helps,
but
I
you
know
I
don't
really.
H
H
E
Because
I'm
the
same,
I
I
vote
for
it.
I'm
excited
to
have
it
in
carroll
county
and
I
wish.
E
I
A
Number
one
the
variances
are
from
family-owned
properties,
so
that
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
an.
A
Issue
the
the
as
far
as
a
200
foot
setback,
the
variances
that
are
required
over
on
the
winery.
A
A
Would
be
a
hardship
on
you,
so
I
just
wanted
to
get
that
out
in
the
open.
The
other
thing
is.
A
A
A
We
make
our
motion
as
mr
stair
about
the
number
of
events
and
the
time
in
the
cut
off.
D
D
Permitted
with
respect
to
the
banquet
facilities
only.
A
A
A
B
B
A
september
15
2022
revised
memo
from
department
of
planning,
abigail
rogers
planning.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
In
ag
preservation,
this
office
has
no
comment
at
this
time
response
to
joe
vance's
request
from.
B
There
is
a
response
from
scott
newell
of
state
highway
administration.
B
There
is
a
notice
of
public
hearing
for
this
case
posted
august
24
22
by
zoning
inspector
scott
robinson.
B
A
Mr
dixon's
putting
it
the
other
thing
is
make
sure
that
your
electronic
devices
are
turned
off.
A
A
A
A
A
A
In
the
audience
that
wasn't
called
by
the
applicant
as
a
witness,
you'll
have
the
opportunity.
A
And
before
you
before
you
before
you
go
to
the
microphone,
please
state
your
name
address
and.
A
Occupation
and
spell
for
the
record,
your
last
name:
okay,
miss
brophy,
mr
chair.
Before
we
come
in.
J
J
A
J
J
J
To
be
the
they're,
the
contract
purchaser
they're
title
owner
carol,
trombetta
is
with
us.
J
Today,
ms
trombetta
is
behind
me
in
case
there's
any
questions
for
her,
and
so,
as
mr
dixon
stated,.
J
Also
has
a
coffee
shop
and
the
proposed
use
would
be
for
the
rental
of
vehicle
and
goods
with.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
The
property
we'll
be
renting
to
the
general
public
and
contractors
skid
steers
generators.
J
Everything
you
rent
or
possibly
sell
have
a
gross
weight
of
less
than
ten
thousand
pounds.
Yes,.
L
J
So,
what's
your
title,
what's
your
title
of
the
business,
a
vice
president
of
operations.
J
You
deliver
equipment
on
rare
occasions
because
most
of
our
equipment's
small.
So
when
we
just
pick.
K
J
J
Would
they
bring
to
this
location
to
pick
up
the
equipment
for
the
small
climate,
aerators
and.
K
Stuff,
you
pick
up
trucks.
Some
of
the
customers
can
tow
with
vans
and
trucks.
Suvs
contractors
may.
J
Per
week,
are
there
trips
going
in
and
out
of
the
location,
maybe
an
average
of
route
20.
J
J
There's
an
existing
building
that
has
the
harvest
was
the
harvest
in
property.
What
would
you
be.
J
K
K
Room
and
then
an
office
to
the
side
sewing
included
in
the
equipment.
That's
rented
there.
J
Do
you
occasionally
sell
trailers?
We
do
yep,
we
offer
everything
for
sale,
but
mainly
rental.
J
K
J
J
J
J
And
this
location
is
accessed
from
monroe
avenue,
correct.
Yes,
it
is
and
do
you
see
any.
J
Possible
negative
aspect
from
exiting
and
accessing
from
monroe
avenue.
No,
actually,
this.
K
J
Record
is
there
a
commercial
property
directly
across
that
entrance
yep
there's
a
outdoor
lawn.
K
K
Yes,
we
we
talked
to
him
and
we
actually
he
rents
stuff
from
us.
So
has
he
indicated.
J
That
he
has
any
concern
about
your
business
operating
out
of
that
location.
No,
not
at
all.
J
K
K
K
J
J
J
J
How
would
you
describe
the
noise
level
of
your
business?
It's
going
to
be
very
quiet,
we
don't.
K
Quiet,
so
to
what
extent
would
you
describe
the
business
in
relation
to
any
odors
dust.
J
K
But
nothing,
no
dust.
Okay,
and
so
would
you
say
that
there's
a
public
need
for
this
business
and.
J
K
K
K
K
H
K
It
for
two
years
at
one
point
we
were
going
to
demolish
the
building,
but
just
due
to
the.
K
K
K
Through
shannon
bomb,
it
would
do
that
but
it'll
be
maintained
very
nice
and
neat
and
orderly.
H
K
K
K
Everyone
will
be
going
there,
so
everything
done
mechanics
all
that
stuff
will
be
done
in
1830.
A
Ahead
and
come
to
the
microphone
and
make
sure
you
state
your
name
address
and
occupation.
A
And
spell
for
the
record
your
last
name,
my
name
is
john.
Sarah
s-e-r-r-a,
I
own
the
monroe
center.
M
M
M
M
K
K
M
M
K
I
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you,
mr
sarah,
in
relation
to
the
I'm
gonna
call
it
the
harvest
in
where.
A
A
J
Should
I
have
them
sit,
yes,
that
would
be
fine.
Okay,
mr
lemmerman.
J
Oh,
I
should
have,
I
will
need,
exhibit
one
returned.
J
N
J
J
N
A
J
This,
yes,
I
do
and
what
is
it?
It's
a
simplified
site
plan
that
we
prepared
that
demonstrates.
J
J
Use
sure
the
so
the
existing
entrances
is
all
along
monroe
avenue,
which
will
has
a.
N
N
N
J
J
Rental
business
would
have
less
and
possibly
significantly
less
traffic
flow
on
a
daily
basis.
J
He
commercial
entity,
dick's
landscape,
that's
straight
across
on
monroe
avenue,.
J
J
J
Rental
of
vehicles
and
goods
with
primarily
outdoor
storage
equipment.
So
that's
a
conditional.
J
J
J
O
A
J
J
Here
we
don't
even
get
to
that
inquiry
because
it's
such
a
low,
it's
such
a
low
level
of.
J
J
E
H
H
Successful
you
know,
hopefully
this
will
as
well
I'm
confident
that
you
will
maintain.
H
A
Stretch
any
of
those
legal
standards
that
must
be
met
with
that
I'll
entertain
a
motion.
I
can.
D
Do
I
have
a
second
a
second
okay,
it's
been
moved
to
second,
to
granted
conditional
use
for.
A
A
A
We
call
the
bza
meeting
to
order.
We
have
before
us
case
number
6408,
which
is
an
appeal
of
zoning.
B
There
is
a
june
1st
2022
decision
from
the
zoning
administrator.
B
A
A
Devices
make
sure
you
put
those
on
silence
so
that
you
don't
interrupt
the
proceedings.
A
Here
today
and
everyone
that
hit,
I
see
we
had
a
couple
people
that
just
arrived
make
sure
you
sign.
A
In
on
the
clipboard,
that's
on
the
side
table
there
behind
mr
voight
and
when
you
leave
here
today.
A
A
Of
the
business
day,
they're
not
trying
to
locate
you
in
the
building,
if
you
plan
on
testifying.
A
So
the
way
we're
going
to
proceed
here
today
is
since
this
is
an
appeal
of
of
the
zoning.
A
Administrators
decision,
mr
voigt,
is
here
at
the
front
table
and
we're
going
to.
I
don't
know
if.
A
A
As
to
why
we
are
here
today
how
this
case
has
gotten
to
this
point,
this
is
going
to
be
a
de
novo.
A
A
Or,
however,
they're
going
to
do
it
each
after
each
witness
people
from
the
audience
has
the.
A
A
A
P
The
request
that's
before
us
here
today:
okay,
so
mr
voigt
and
I
appear
before
you
in
regards.
P
P
P
P
At
1880
lakeland
drive,
yes,
can
you
tell
me
what
1880
lakeland
drive
is
zoned
zoned
conservation.
P
And
did
your
office
receive
a
request
regarding
the
use
of
this
property
we
did
and
what
was.
P
P
That
use
permitted
in
the
conservation
district.
Oh
yes,
it's
permitted
as
an
accessory
use.
Okay
and.
P
Into
evidence
what
has
been
marked
as
zoning
administrators
exhibit
one.
P
Can
you
read
the
section
right
here,
explain
your
request
that
section
of
explaining
your.
Q
P
The
patients-
yes-
and
where
was
that
in
her
dwelling
in
a
separate
area
of.
P
And
as
you
testified
before,
this
was
for
mental
health,
slash
therapy.
P
Is
mental
health,
a
body
of
study
of
medicine
similar
to
that
of
a
physician?
Yes,.
P
And
is
the
use
of
a
social
worker,
the
kind
of
use
and
characteristics.
P
I
have
what
has
been
pre-marked,
as
exhibit
2
as
a
maryland
department
of
health.
P
State
of
board
state
board
of
social
worker
examineers
license
verification.
Can
you
read.
P
That
applied
for
this
use.
Yes,
and
can
you
read
what
the
license
level
is.
Q
Lcswc-Certified
dash
clinical,
and
do
you
see
where
it
says,
status.
Q
P
October
31st
2023,
okay.
Now
I
would
want
you
to
jump
down
to
the
paragraph
or
paragraphs
I.
P
Guess,
underneath
regarding
the
requirement
for
the
lcsw-c
license,
can
you
read
that
for
the
board.
Q
The
provisions
of
psychotherapy,
thank
you,
I'd
like
to
introduce,
exhibit
2
into
evidence.
Q
Q
A
Members
any
question
of
mr
voight's
testimony
was
forward.
Now
I
was
just
the
gentleman
who
just.
T
T
Q
A
U
Of
my
my
deed,
okay,
so
when
you
give
your
testimony,
which
will
be
a
little
bit
later,
if.
A
You
could
provide
that
if
you
can
approach
mr
dixon,
we
will
go
ahead
and
accept
that
into.
A
A
V
To
you
is
outside
of
from
the
initial
hearing:
did
you
do
your
own
research
into
the.
W
1880
lakeland
drive
and
I
am
a
licensed
clinical
social
worker
who
operates
as
a
therapist.
Okay,.
A
So
with
that,
ms
mcmillion,
would
you
like
to
go
ahead
and
present
your
case
and
and
then
the.
A
A
W
X
Miss
mcmillian,
could
you
tell
me,
are
you
governed
by
a
board
for
your
licensure?
Yes,.
W
W
T
Y
A
A
A
A
A
Z
Z
But
it
is
a
physician's
office
when
it
is
not.
If
I
was
to
say
I
open
up
a
physician
office.
A
A
A
E
D
Family
members
resident
with
you
in
the
house-
yes,
I
have
a
partner
that
resides
with
me.
A
F
A
A
A
AA
A
W
W
AA
Right
and
as
far
as
you
know,
would
you
be
able
to
access
anybody's
juvenile
records.
AA
In
the
case,
somebody
does
become
become
violent.
You
would
be
able
to
to
warn
the
person
that.
AA
Been
practicing
in
private
practice,
how
many
times
have
you
had
to
to
warn
somebody
of.
W
A
Call
any
witnesses
mr
mcmillan
or
I
have
tina
clark
christina
albertini.
She
was
my
neighbor
for.
W
A
W
A
A
Go
first
giving
their
testimony
here
today:
okay,
go
ahead
and
you're
going
to
have
to
spell.
A
Y
For
eight
years
in
salisbury
maryland
and
in
the
eight
years
she
has
been
a
wonderful
neighbor.
Y
No
problems
whatsoever
regarding
the
issue.
For
today,
she
had
a
private
practice
for
just.
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
S
S
Through
that,
among
some
others,
we're
submitting
this
letter
in
lieu
of
our
in-person
presence
at.
S
S
S
S
A
You
like
to
respond
to
anything
that,
in
mr
benedict's
testimony
sure,
mr
benedict,
what.
AB
AB
AB
AB
A
Y
Y
Y
S
Increasing
the
risk,
but
I
can
assure
you
she's
not,
but
it's
not
exactly
that.
Y
Of
those
years
it
was
a
very,
very
diligently,
okay,
questions
of
his
testimony.
Okay!
Well,
that's.
AA
Said
you
said
it
increases
the
risk?
Do
you
have
any
numbers
to
sustain.
S
U
Am
yeah
who
you
are
we've
we've
got
the
rest
of
your
information.
Okay,
again,
I'm
pete
abiera.
U
And
what
we
were
discussing
earlier
about
the
charter,
just
the
basic
premise
on
my
deed,
which.
U
And
we
do
have
a
copy
of
a
deed,
which
is
the
same
as
my
deed.
That's
issue
number
one.
U
A
retired
chiropractor
my
title
is
doctor,
but
I
am
not
considered
a
physician.
U
U
Just
to
be
able
to
legally
apply
for
insurance
payment,
I
would
have
to
be
in
office.
U
One
of
the
things
that
she
planned
on
treating
is
post-trauma
stress,
disorder.
A
U
You
talk
about
ptsd,
you
talk
about
a
rage,
a
range
of
of
behaviors,
that's
generated.
U
And
I
think
people
deserve
to
be
helped,
help
is
available,
but
I
don't
want
this
being
treated.
Y
I'm
christina
albertini,
I
just
have
one
question.
I
sympathize
with
anyone
with.
Y
Pstd,
I
cannot
imagine
what
it
is
to
go
through
that
this
gentleman
lives
in
this
neighborhood.
U
U
AA
Anna
maria
barabbas
again,
thank
you
for
thank
you
for
sharing.
All
of
that
I
know
I
know.
AA
U
Yeah,
unfortunately,
I
have
been
in
sessions
where,
where
other
members
have
become
violent,.
A
A
A
A
Have
been
thrown
out
there
today
and
and
and
that's
my
fault
for
letting
it
get
to
that
point.
A
So
if
anyone
has
so
please,
if
you
want
to
go
to
the
microphone
and
and
that's
that's
what
we're.
A
Z
That
she's
working
in-
and
I
don't
think
I
think
I
told
you
that
I
just
got
my
license.
Z
Z
Z
Z
Guard
out
looking
for
the
guy
and
the
guy,
he's
he's
been
in
secure
and
restraints,
and
the.
Z
Z
Z
A
A
Z
Z
Z
A
Have
any
response
you
get
the
first
bite
at
the
apple?
My
first
response
is
that
I
do
not
treat.
W
Her
testimony
okay,
well,
you
did
testify
to
that
miss
johnson.
Yes,
please,
please
answer
the.
Z
Z
A
Raise
your
right
hand
and
and
give
as
I
give
you
the
oath,
do
you
swear
or
affirm.
AC
Okay,
all
right,
I
just
would
like
to
know
my
main
interest
is
not
knowing
what's
happening.
AC
AC
A
AC
V
V
A
V
That
hearing
presented
to
you,
yes,
we
have
the
decision,
we
have
a
decision
that
is
part
of
the.
A
Record:
okay:
well,
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
part
of
the
record,
but
for
the
first
hearing
we
had
a.
V
Had
said
that,
if
I
had
missed
it
or
not,
so
my
testimony
is
this
you've
heard
us
say
our
safety.
V
And,
as
you
all
said,
this
is
zoning.
You
are
not
medical
professionals,
you
are
not
doctors,
you.
V
V
V
V
G
A
A
A
A
A
Office
so,
mr
boyd,
could
you
read
from
the
code
for
us
please,
the
code
states
within
a
dwelling.
Q
T
T
T
I
see
in
your
limitations,
your
guides
and
your
standards
that
you
follow
traffic
conditions
and.
T
T
T
T
T
And
okay
and
mr
dixon
did
you
I'm
just
calling
it
wilson
exhibit.
T
A
Y
I
just
wanted
to
know
what
what
made
you
think
that
there
is
it
that
it's
not
important
to
me.
I.
A
A
Don't
understand
that
I'm
going
to
be
very
honest
with
you
and
I'm
glad
I
don't
understand
that.
AD
A
A
W
A
Did
you
answer
the
question
you
I
mean,
I
can't
think
of
anything
off
the
top
of
my
head.
T
AB
A
A
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
AE
So
we'd
like
to
see
a
copy
of
that
charter
also-
and
I
know
from
living
back.
AE
A
Okay
and
again
questions
of
her
testimony,
pete
abiera,
you
mentioned
that
no
no
go
to
stay.
A
U
AE
A
Okay,
very
good
go
ahead,
sir,
and
please
identify
yourself
name
name
address.
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
AF
A
X
Ellie
holloway,
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
lauren's
professionalism
as
part
of
the
code
to.
X
X
X
AB
Want
a
safe
place
for
all
our
families
and,
oh
sorry,
I'm
getting
emotional.
AB
A
AA
Maria
brabus
for
barabbas,
yes,
I
am
also
a
licensed
clinical
social
worker.
AA
Quickly
learned
to
respect
and
then,
as
a
dear
friend
she's
somebody
that
I
truly
admire
and.
AA
Practice
believing
that
she,
in
that
capacity,
she
would
be
better
able
to
to
serve
her
clients.
AA
When
I
heard
that
I
think
one
of
the
first
question
I
asked
was:
are
you
safe?
How
are.
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
AA
Was
mentioned
at
one
point:
hippa
does
not
allow
us
to
to
have
any
any
type
of
security.
We
can't.
AA
AA
AA
Something
were
to
happen
so
in
case
there
you
know
somebody
were
to
to
make
a
complaint
against.
AA
Against
a
clinician,
as
you
know,
you
talked
you,
you
read
what
what
her
license
said.
Her.
AA
License
lawrence
licenses
is
current
and
there's
also
no
no
issues
there,
so
nobody
has
ever.
AA
Made
any
complaints
against
her,
and
I
think
that
speaks
to
her
her
work
ethic
as
well.
AA
I
forgot
I'm
sorry.
The
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
address
was
the
was
the
traffic.
AA
Time
so
whether
it
would
be
me
visiting
my
dear
friend,
followed
by
kelly
visiting
her
an
hour.
AA
One
extra
car
in
the
community
at
one
time-
I
I
don't
know
much
about
football,
but
I
do
know
in.
AA
Friends
and
family
come
to
to
watch
football
together.
What's
to
say
that
that
is
not
a
bigger.
AA
T
AA
Sure
about
I
don't
know
how
long
you
have
been
neighbors,
but
I
do
know
that
she
has.
She
has.
AA
AA
A
AA
A
Back
to
the
microphone
any
other
questions
of
miss
barabbas
testimony.
V
V
AA
AA
AA
A
Question
because
again,
we're
not
we're
not
concerned
with
any
of
that.
We're
concerned
with.