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From YouTube: Planning and Zoning Commission May 5, 2021
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C
Will
be
late
and
he
may
not
be
able
to
attend
at
all
this
evening.
He
has.
E
Madam
chair,
I
just
received
a
voice.
I
mean
a
email
from
mr
gosnell
saying
he's
having.
C
C
Planning
has
been
working
on
and
this
came
at
a
discussion
and
request
from
the
freedom
district.
C
Community
association,
there
was
a
member
in
particular
of
the
group
who
felt
very
strongly.
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C
Was
in
place,
we
did
not
have
municipal
water
and
sewer,
and
so
we
had
some
smaller
lots
of.
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C
To
those
communities,
the
health
department
has
no
issues
that
have
been
reported
to
them
on.
C
Issues,
areas
of
failure-
the
soils
from
my
understanding
are
very
good
for
septics.
C
Made
we're
reserving
this
allocation,
for
you
know
almost
900
residential
units.
C
No
cips
for
sewer
lines
to
be
extended
to
those
communities,
but
we
thought.
C
You
know
given
conversations
we've
had
with
fgca
members.
It
would
be
again
a
good
endeavor
to.
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C
C
Expansions
currently
are
developer
driven,
so
in
this
portion
of
the
website
we
have
a
link
to.
C
The
survey
is
done
in
two
ways:
we
sent
out
a
mailing
and
we
sent
with
a
password
and
only.
C
One
ip
address
can
take
the
survey
only
one
time,
because
we
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that.
C
Was
selected
because
right
now,
the
sweet
spot
for
most
properties
moving
forward
that
are
built.
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C
C
Drain
field
and
you
have
that
room
to
put
an
additional
system
in
so
we
also
looked
at.
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C
C
Variables
that
go
into
how
long
a
system
works
and
it
and
works
well,
for
so
we
put
on
here.
C
Works
department
and
information
from
the
bay
restoration
program
to
put
some
just.
C
Some
average
fees
again
these
are
very
general
none
of
these
fees.
I
would,
I
would
say.
C
Septic
system
or
if
you
have
to
do
a
mound
system
and
that
could
be
constrained
by
your.
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C
Hundred
to
a
thousand
dollars
bay,
restoration
fee
is
a
set
fee.
It's
sixty
dollars
a
year
and.
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C
And
average
would
be
between
10
and
15
000,
depending
on
we
make
the
homeowner.
C
Area
connection
charge
is
a
one-time
fee
of
8
400.
You
are
billed
in
that
for
your
bay,
restoration.
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C
Residentially
improved
two
acres
or
less
and
built
before
1990
and
there's
860
of
them
so
again.
C
That's
who
we
were
targeting
in
our
survey-
and
these
are
all
the
ones
that
are
in
long
range.
C
Priority
to
long
range
again,
as
I
said
when
we
made
that
decision
during
the
freedom
planning.
C
Process
now
I'm
going
to
show
you
survey
and
I
apologize
it
triplicate
across
your
screen,
but.
C
That's
how
we
had
to
do
it
for
the
mailing,
so
what
we
did
was
a
like
three
inch
by
eight
inch.
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C
C
C
Might
have
less
use
or,
if
it's
more
than
four
people,
that
system
on
a
small
lot
is.
C
Sized
smaller
and
may
have
more
issues
come
up,
knowing
if
the
septic
has
been
replaced
or
not.
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C
And
to
know
if
they've
ever
had
any
septic
issues
and
if
it
became
available,
would
they.
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C
C
Be
on
sewers
that
can
help
drive
decisions
and
then
the
reason
for
the
annual
estimated
income.
C
Then
that
really
can
put
it's
a
burden,
so
maybe
we
need
to
structure
payment
arrangements
or.
C
Things
like
that,
the
bay
restoration
program
is
a
program
offered
by
the
state
of
maryland.
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C
I
haven't
checked
this
evening.
The
surveys
went
out
on
friday
april
30th
to
these
properties.
C
The
responses
have
been
very
positive,
wanting
to
actually
go
on
sewer,
the
ones
that
don't
cite.
C
Cost
and
having
a
quarterly
bill
that
they
have
to
pay.
So
with
that,
are
there
any
questions.
F
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C
Mean
there's
just
so
many
different
variables
that
could
be
worked
out
that
you
know
there's
area.
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C
Determine
areas
maybe
a
concentration
of
desire
or
non-desire
or
issues
that
we
were
unaware
of.
C
Because
no
one
wanted
to
say
anything,
you
know
it
is
tricky
because
if
you're
having
major
issues.
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C
Over
people's
shoulders,
but
we
also
want
to
make
the
right
decisions
for
the
community.
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C
Offset
if
we
did
have
systemic
failure
and
we
did
have
a
product,
we
wanted
to
put
a
whole.
C
Area
on
the
plant
has
the
capacity
the
physical
ability
to
service
everything.
What
we
are
limited.
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C
Maryland
environmental
systems
and
that's
like
a
quasi-public
private
group
and
it's
limited.
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D
C
Property
can't
perk,
you
can't,
you
know,
put
another
typical
system
in
conventional
system.
C
Or,
however
much
you
use
it,
you
know
basically,
it's
like
a
glorified
like
just
tank
of
influence.
C
As
it
sounds,
it's
a
mounded
system
where
it
has
different
gradients
of
sand
and
soil
to
help.
C
With
the
drainage
and
absorb
the
nutrients
outside
of
the
septic
tank,
because
the
septic
tank.
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C
C
C
Water,
you
would
send
water
to
that
area,
because,
ideally,
what
you're
trying
to
do
is
have
potable.
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C
Is
very
costly
and
that
would
fall
100
on
the
county
and
not
that
it
shouldn't.
But
that's
just.
F
F
Would
be
but
something
that
would
be
a
resource
for
someone
if
they
had
a
sewer
system
fail.
F
This
is
what
you
can
do,
because
what
what
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
you
know.
F
C
C
F
C
Runs
from
now
until
the
end
of
the
month,
I'll
compile
the
results,
and
I
will
present
them.
C
You
know
not
under
the
commissioner's
direction.
This
was
something
I
just
had.
C
A
Which
is
our
comprehensive
rezoning
residential
text?
Our
continued
discussion
of
this.
A
G
Yes,
okay,
can
you
you
can
see
this
correct.
H
Okay,
okay,
just
to
summarize,
we
left
off
on
page
30
with
the
we
stopped
at
this
bulk.
H
We
go
back
and
you
make
some
possible
changes
and
take
into
consideration
comments
that
you've.
H
H
H
H
Until
we
get
a
little
bit
farther
the
way
we
did
this
is
we
looked
at
variance
requests.
What.
H
H
Our
group
agreed
that
there's
really
no
reason
to
make
any
wholesale
changes.
Administrative.
H
So
again,
lot
area
requirements
no
changes
there
as
far
as
yard
and
lot
width.
H
Yard
for
clarity
for
lots
that
have
frontage
on
two
public
streets,
and
this
is
separated.
H
The
next
section
c
is
exceptions
to
the
above
tables.
There
were
no
changes.
H
H
H
The
time
of
site
plan
approval,
I
will
note
to
the
freedom
district
citizens,
association
objects.
H
I
believe
both
to
the
density
being
3.5
in
the
r
20,
which
is
typically
two
and
the
allowance
of.
H
Attached
units,
even
if
they
are
age
restricted,
but
I
will
point
out
that
this
is
currently.
H
Allowed
at
six
dwelling
units
per
acre,
we
also
recently,
and
it's
allowed
in
the
r20.
A
District
correct
it's
allowed
in
all
of
them,
but
I
really
should
clarify
one
thing:
it.
H
H
Above
and
beyond
a
site
plan
approval
and
the
type
of
input
that
they
can
give
there
so
that.
H
Is
something
that
we
will
definitely
come
back
to
when
you
discuss
any
possible
changes.
H
H
H
H
In
its
entirety,
we
could
talk
more
about
that
at
that
time,
unless
you
wanted
to
discuss
it
now,.
H
There
was,
and
jay
can
probably
expand
on
this,
a
great
number
of
them
for
accessory
buildings.
H
Zoning
administrator
and
the
bca
after
that,
so
that
is
regarding
both
requirements.
That
is.
H
H
Okay,
I
can't
really
see
everybody
so
if
there
are
speak
up.
H
So
the
next
section
is
cluster
and
this
is
a
separate
proposal.
It's
only
several.
H
Pages
we
haven't
talked
about
it
at
all,
yet
this
is
the
change
proposed
to
chapter
155.
H
H
An
option
for
use
in
carroll:
it's
currently
permitted
in
the
conservation
district,
the
r-40.
H
The
r-20
and
the
r-10000
zoning
districts
in
a
nutshell,
it
is
a
land
development
design.
H
H
Compare
against
and
but
it
would
still
require
that
the
density
could
not
be
above.
What
could.
H
What
is
envisioned
for
that
zoning
district?
I'm
not
really
articulating
that
very
well.
H
And
you
can
see
there
that
they
are
in
the
r
20
000
district,
this
minimum
lot
size.
H
Is
10
000
square
feet?
There's
no
changes
to
any
of
the
zoning
districts
where
it
is
allowed.
H
H
Be
detached
units
and
I
think
that
pretty
well
summarizes
it
really.
The
changes
are
here.
H
H
H
Laura
matthias,
please
thanks.
Thank.
H
I
I
Not
really
a
terribly
easy
thing
to
explain.
Thankfully,
my
audience
tonight
is.
I
I
I
They
want
to
go
the
cluster
route
and
then
they
present
as
to
why
so
as
we
worked
through
these.
I
I
I
I
Revealing
to
us,
as
hopefully
you
know,
they
will
be
to
you,
so
I'm
going
to
walk.
I
I
I
I
I
That
property
and
chopping
it
up
into.
However
many
pieces
you
can
get
you
know,
dividing.
I
The
numbers-
that's
all
you're
doing
here
so
20
000
square
feet.
I
I
I
That
storm
water
management
parcel,
which
there
may
be
a
slight
increase
if
you're
you.
I
I
Was
most
revealing,
I
kind
of
just
summarized
what
we
we
found
most
enlightening
about
doing.
I
This
particular
case
study
was
that
the
open
space,
the
open
space
actually
provided
under
this.
I
000
to
whatever
they
reduce
it
to
the
plan,
does
provide
a
2.1
acre
open
space.
But
if
you
maximize.
I
I
I
The
roger
rather
large
parcel
71.4
acres
on
the
west
side
of
oklahoma
around
here.
I
Okay,
I
thought
I
heard
something
in
there,
so
the
conventional
plan
that
they
showed.
I
I
I
I
I
Cluster
plan,
in
this
case
the
smallest
lot
size,
is
9068
square
feet
significantly
under
the
10
000.
I
And
then
the
largest
slots
are
27
000..
So
of
course,
with
the
new
code,
it's
not
precluding.
I
Anybody
from
going
larger,
it's
just
saying
the
minimum
would
be
50
of
what
would
typically.
F
F
C
C
C
C
C
C
So
you're
really
talking
about
the
bulk
of
the
r20
and
we're
really
talking
about.
As
you
are.
C
I
So,
and
and
again
this
you
know,
you
won't
be
seeing
both
plans
if
this
goes
into
the.
I
I
I
Across
the
board,
if
this
makes
sense,
it
is
absolutely
advantageous
to
go
that
route.
C
Inefficiencies
that
can
be
approved,
improved
in
government
is
just
streamlining.
This
process,
yep.
F
F
F
They
put
in
you,
know
a
their
tennis
courts
or
something
like
that.
It's
just
an
open
field.
F
F
F
F
F
C
C
C
C
C
C
I
Provisions
for
that
open
space,
one
of
them
you
can
put
up
to
50
of
the
required
open
space.
I
I
A
C
Through
on
this
residential
text
this
evening,
not
this
evening,
but
at
the
business
meeting.
H
On
the
18th,
brenda
and
jay
will
be
finishing
up.
The
discussion
of
the
zoning
administration.
H
Issues
so
we
they
will
complete
on
that
day.
The
the
proposal
that
you
had
before
you
and
then.
H
This
draft
so
you'll
be
familiar
with
with
everything
at
that
point,
and
so
then,
after
that.
C
To
continue
our
engagement
with
the
public,
so
if
I
can
just
share
my
screen,
please
control
room.
C
All
right
so
with
that
being
said,
we
are
coming
down
the
final
stretch.
You
know
this
has
been.
C
C
Dropped
many
of
the
comments
and
changes
were
actually
incorporated
in
the
draft
you
saw,
so
we.
C
C
Of
last
year,
again
with
covid
and
things
like
that,
we
couldn't
continue
that
in
person.
C
Focus
group
that
we
were
trying
to
work
on,
but
we
instead
took
the
webinar
approach
and.
C
C
Many
of
their
meetings
have
had
this
as
a
topic
of
discussion
where
we
have
talked
about
foster.
We.
C
Sort
of
been
numerous
of
those,
as
well
as
I've,
been
asked,
as
well
as
mary
to
attend
the
maryland.
C
Best-
and
I
think
we've
done
it
as
well
as
we
can
giving
out
the
information
to
the
public
and.
C
So
what
I'm
proposing
is
to
finish
this
prior
to
foreign,
to
the
board
of.
C
C
June
and
then
we've
post
all
of
the
comments
that
we've
received
to
date
on
the
website
and.
C
C
C
From
the
freedom
district
community
association,
where
they
had
about
460
people
sign
onto
a.
C
Change.Org
petition.
I
will
make
note,
though,
that
around
95
or
so
of
the
petitioners.
C
C
Wanted
to
make
you
all
aware
that
I
did
review
the
petition
and
just
thought
that
was
interesting.
C
C
To
make
you
all
aware
of
that,
as
well
as
you
received
a
letter
from
the
maryland
building,.
C
C
C
Adoption
sometime
this
summer,
so
with
that
any
questions,
do
you
feel
that
this
is
a
good.
C
Plan
moving
forward
to
continue
to
solicit
feedback
and
comment
on
what
we're
working
on.
A
B
C
All
right
well,
then,
with
that
we
will
plan
on
june
30th
having
just
a
public.
C
With
the
commercial
industrial,
employment
campus,
take
them
in
orderly
man
of
the
comments
linda.
F
But
yeah
thanks:
what
would
you
think
about
moving
the
that
public
comment.
C
Have
already
had
on
their
calendar,
I
composed
the
question
for
june
23rd.
I
was
hoping
to
have.
C
The
comment
ability
for
a
month,
but
if
the
planning
commission
wants
to
move
it
up
a
week.
C
Now
I
will
say
we
have
a
planning
commission
meeting
on
the
22nd.
I
we
moved
back
the.
C
I
have
to
check
this
out
to
see
if
there's
any
conflicts
yeah,
I
I
guess
I'm
just
concerned.
F
F
I
mean
we,
I
I
I
wouldn't
think
but
again
I'll
defer
to
the
group
as
to
what's
best.
C
The
july
4th
is
that
sunday,
so
I
mean
either
week.
The
seventh,
you
know
is
the
following:.
C
Decide
now
I
would
like
to
have
a
decision
soon,
only
because
I
need.
C
To
get
the
advertisement
and
make
sure
that
we
have
appropriate
education
for
everyone.
A
Because
of
the
july
4th-
and
there
was
a
little
bit
consternation
there
to
keep
it.
C
I
Yes,
ma'am,
okay,
thanks
so
much
for
the
time.
I
am
a
founding
trustee
of
the
freedom
district.
J
J
J
But
it
would
seem
that
there's
a
possibility
that
the
outcome
on
some
of
the
properties
that.
J
J
And
readership
that
it's
the
neighborhood
compatibility
so
so,
just
as
an
example.
J
J
J
J
Just
give
them
that
lot
yield
and
then
do
the
math.
I
really
think
that
you're
gonna
find
that
it's.
J
J
As
as
you
start
deliberating
on
that,
I
think
mr
lester's
open
space
comments
are
applicable.
J
As
well,
there's
a
lot
of
these
developments
that
we
require
larger,
open
space,
but.
J
J
Time
and
thanks
again
to
staff
for
for
doing
the
research.
A
C
K
Is
cited
in
the
freedom
comprehensive
plan
but,
of
course
we're
this
text
that
we're
talking
about.
K
A
Callers
you've
been
unmuted
if
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
give
a
public
comment
at
this
time,.
L
L
And
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
couple
of
comments
to
you
know
what
I
heard
today.
L
L
Choice.
The
second
thing
that
I
just
don't
quite
understand
is,
with
the
hobie
wolf
example.
L
G
G
As
the
fdca
just
in
watching
the
meeting
tonight,
a
big
comment
that
bothers
me.