►
A
B
We
will
call
the
planning
zoning
commission
of
carroll
county
meeting
to
order
today
is
july.
B
19
2022
and
we
will
begin
as
usual
by
establishing
a
quorum.
C
D
B
E
B
We've
got
the
minutes
from
june
21st
and
june
29th.
Anybody
suggest
any
edits
to
those.
B
B
B
That
were
presented
to
me
that
you
would
authorize
me
as
chair.
I
don't
have
those
listed
for
me.
B
F
Good
morning,
good
morning,
good
morning,
it
is
just
first
of
all,
first
of
all,
it's
election
day.
F
So
for
the
thousands
of
people
that
are
watching
if
you
haven't
voted
yet,
please
go
out
and
vote.
F
So
there's
that
and
I'd
do
it
before
noon,
because
I
think
it's
going
to
be
like
hot
after.
F
That
so,
anyway,
not
much
going
on
right
now,
we're
sort
of
in
that
summer
law,
if
you
will.
F
I
think
you've
seen
a
couple
headlines
in
the
paper
we
are
in
the
middle
of
implementing
some.
F
Of
the
changes
that
we
had
been
presented
with
by
the
siegel
group,
that
did
the
the
study
of.
F
Of
all
things
government
structure
here
in
carroll,
so
we
we're
in
the
in
the
process
of
of
doing.
F
Some
of
that
we
did
a
pretty
significant
compensation
change
last
week
and
com.
F
F
F
Shortly
and
we're
also
in
the
process
of
hiring
a
new
director
of
human
resources,
so
we're
slowly.
F
F
Know,
there's
a
there's
a
ton
of
reasons
why
the
great
the
great
retirement
was
the
great.
F
Resignation,
this
great
that
great.
What
have
you,
but
you
know
we're
hopeful
that
some
of.
F
These
changes
we
see,
will
help
get
some
folks
back
here
and
that
want
to
work
for
carol.
F
F
And
commissions
and
it's
incredibly
important
to
get
a
good
response
from
our
citizens
to.
F
Serve
on
these
things,
as
you
all
well
know,
and
this
group
is
up
to
where
it
should
be.
F
Thank
you
for
what
you
do
it
ain't
easy,
but
everyone
appreciates
the
hard
work
that
you
do.
B
I
don't
think
the
condition
you
know.
70
openings
is
necessarily
unique
to
carroll
county.
F
As
a
matter
of
fact,
the
rest
of
this
week,
I'll
be
with
the
baltimore
metropolitan
council,.
F
B
Comments
when
I
was
asked
to
do
this,
one
of
my
considerations
was,
if
you,
if
you
care
about
your.
B
B
Why
would
you
say
no
to
that?
So
if
somebody's
thinking
about
that,
I
would
urge
them
to.
F
And
this
guy
sitting
beside
me
said
that
very
thing
stephen,
you
were,
you
were.
F
Adamant
about
that
and
as
we're
as
we're
all
of
you,
michael,
you
were
as
well
matt.
F
All
of
you
were
when,
when
you
said
that
you
know
you
want
to
give
back
and
that's
important.
G
B
B
B
And
it's
tough,
but
I
don't
think
any
of
us
has
a
political
agenda.
We're
trying
to
put
forward.
B
F
Mandates
are
whatever
you
want
to
call
them.
The
police
accountability
boards
were
front
and
center.
F
And
we
had
a
great
response
from
a
lot
of
folks
that
want
to
serve
on
that.
So
so
it
makes.
F
This
is
the
perfect
example
of
that.
It's
just
good
people
wanting
to
do
good
things
to
give
back.
F
B
B
Right
good
morning,
everyone
thank
you
for
being
here
today,
a
few
things,
so
we
do
have
a
very.
C
C
C
C
C
Weeks
is
there
a
preference
for
which,
wednesday
evening,
both
their
work
sessions
in
the
evenings.
C
Meetings
at
this
time,
yeah
that
sounds
fine.
I
am
going
to
give
bza
case
review
now.
C
C
C
C
D
D
It
is
in
commissioner
district
2
and
it
is
for
a
total
of
27
lots.
14Th
extension,
14th
extension.
D
They've,
the
developer
has
been
working
with
the
health
department
on
the
site
on
some
groundwater.
C
B
Morning
rex,
to
reflect
ms
kirkner
is
here
good
morning:
welcome
we'll
move
on
to
item
eight.
B
Agriculture,
agriculture
and
conservation
zoning
text
discussion
so
for
that
mary
lane
is
going.
C
H
Well,
I'm
scrolling
down
the
first
issue.
We
had
talked
about
that
we
needed
to
get
back
to.
H
And
I
think
it
was
mr
lester
that
brought
up
kind
of
question
the
logic
of
that.
Given
the.
H
Purpose
of
the
district,
so
over
the
past
few
weeks
I
put
together
and
it
was
sent
out,
it's.
H
Called
institutional
uses
in
the
conservation
district-
and
you
should
have
received
this-
it's.
H
H
Bed
per
three
thousand
square
feet
these
uses,
it
is
worth
noting,
are
also
all
allowed
in
the.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
I
When
somebody
would
go
to
refinance
something,
so
I
think
that's
a
consideration.
E
How
does
that
work?
We've
done
that
a
few
times
in
the
past,
with
the
residential.
H
And
the
commercial,
it's
I
mean
we
did
it
with
when
we
made
homes,
dwellings,
not.
H
H
C
C
Westminster
high
robert
moton
gateway,
the
youth
service
bureau,
they're
all
zoned
conservation,
so.
C
Property-
and
I
guess
looking
back,
has
there
been
any
consequences
that
we're
trying
to.
B
B
H
H
J
A
B
Actually,
I
think
it'll
be
soon
if,
if
we
could
do
the
other
issue
that
I
brought
back
regarding.
H
B
Yeah,
jeremy
willett,
yes-
and
there
was
another
regarding
that,
but
we
can
get
to
that
and
if
we.
H
H
H
With
the
other
reviews
anytime,
the
planning
commission
had
something
that
was
brought
up
and.
H
H
For
their
consideration,
so
we'll
make
sure
they
know
that
you
talked
about
this
in
somewhat
detail.
H
Slaughterhouses
and
the
accessory
use
that
basically
incinerates
carcasses.
H
We
have
a
name
for
that
now.
Jim
was
working
hard
on
what
to
call
it
just
to
kind
of
summarize.
H
May
know
how
that
came
about,
but
that
seemed
a
rather
intensive
use
and
there
was
also
the.
H
H
H
H
H
H
Livestock
acceleration
incineration
in
the
agricultural
district,
and
it
has
been.
H
H
Of
that
and
and
stop
that
from
spreading,
so
there
would
be
possible
emergency
or
extenuating.
H
Circumstances
where
you
would
want
them
to
be
allowed
to
do
neighboring
farms
and
areas
so.
H
H
J
All
the
codes,
any
livestock
animal
operation-
one
I
mean
you-
can
bury
deceased
animals,
which.
J
J
J
In
carroll
county
anytime,
soon
to
take
these
hides
so
it's
you
know,
I'm
sure
any
slaughterhouse.
J
J
J
J
Extremely
expensive,
so
yeah
being
out
being
out
in
the
country,
is
much
better
than
trying
to
be.
B
B
B
B
Incinerate
the
carcasses
there
for
some
reason
if
we
allow
it
to
be
a
conditional
use
or
the.
B
H
H
H
Thousand
foot
separation
from
neighboring
residential
properties,
but
that's
reasonable.
E
J
J
J
We're
talking
about
the
slaughterhouses
yeah
in
the
nag
district
yeah
in
industrial,
industrial.
H
B
B
B
And
now
they've
got
to
jump
through
17
hoops
to
to
do
what
they
need
to
do
and
matt's
information.
B
B
B
But
if
it's
part
of
a
farming
operation,
it
can
be
met,
but
it
would
be.
Are
we
saying.
H
Process
for
having
a
there's
still
some
sort
of
discretion
by
the
zoning
and
notice
jay
would
have.
B
B
H
H
H
H
Animals,
except
for
in
extenuating
circumstances,
okay,
if
conditional
use,
then
they
have
to
have.
B
L
So
the
thousand
foot
separation
would
that
apply
to
existing
operations.
If
it's
existing.
K
F
B
H
Okay,
so
now
we're
going
to
start
where
we
left
off
a
few
weeks
ago,
so
we're
down
to
the
industrial.
H
And
this
will
be,
con
is
proposed
to
be
conditional
in
the
ag
and
prohibited.
H
In
the
conservation-
and
you
see
to
the
right,
158.002
refers
to
the
definition
of
it.
H
And
158
166
is
something
we'll
get
to
later,
which
is
all
the
requirements
for
this.
So
anytime.
H
B
B
B
H
Wood
chips
humus
firewood
when
it's
on
ag
land.
Where
would
something
like
a.
H
H
K
H
H
H
K
K
B
Years
ago
was
involved
in
this
industry
and
in
california
there
were
a
bunch
of
places
where.
K
K
K
B
B
They
wrapped
them
in,
like
some
sort
of
I
don't
know
what
you'd
call
a
plastic
wrap
put
them
on.
B
B
B
K
K
J
K
J
K
K
K
Yeah
they're
using
utilities
and
water
and
everything
more
than
what
would
normally
be.
K
K
B
M
B
Just
says
food
processing
and
as
matt
was
saying,
there's
a
big
gray
area
there.
I
think.
B
K
J
K
B
J
B
N
I
would
just
add,
commission
that
the
bza
does
have
guard
rails.
It's
not
just
sort
of.
N
Like
a
willy-nilly,
you
know
whack-a-mole
type
of
operation
they
have
where
they
sort
of
like
are.
N
Guard
rails
for
what
they
can
and
cannot
do
to
add
at
least
a
little
bit
of
uniformity.
N
Obviously
there
is
discretion
but
they're
like
I
said
there,
isn't
it's
not
the
situation
with.
N
B
B
B
B
B
B
A
B
E
E
E
E
B
B
H
H
B
H
C
Look,
you
know,
that's
our
preferred
timeline
because
again
we
want
to
get
it
before
the.
C
Anyway,
so
even
if
a
decision
is
made
later
on,
we
can
work
that
into
our
process
with
them.
J
Okay,
still
on
page
28,
I
didn't
mean
I
like
that
under
food
processing
is
research
laboratories.
H
Conducting
bioscience
research
conditional
use,
that's
as
the
current
code
is
we've.
H
H
More
intense
uses
so
now
that
it's
been
pulled
out
as
a
separate
use.
If
no
one
has
a
problem.
H
H
Under
warehouse
storage
and
distribution,
the
bza's
favorite
contact
contractors,
equipment.
H
H
H
Early
on
all
the
different
what's
include
as
agriculture,
and
then
there
was
a
bunch
of.
H
We
get
to
that,
I
think
I'm
not
going
to
if
you
just
want
to
kind
of
scroll.
H
Requirement
that
you
have
to
have
a
bedroom
for
rent
or
whatever,
and
now
this
is
what
people.
H
Separated
into
more
than
10
dogs
and
10
dogs
or
fewer,
there
will
be
new
regulations.
H
H
Yes,
so
that
that
needs
to
have
an
x
in
it
and
that's
not
a
change.
That's
just.
H
H
Facility
will
continue
to
be
conditional
in
the
ag
and
conservation.
Again
you
see
to
the
right
158.
H
B
B
B
B
B
B
H
H
H
C
Want
to
add
other
districts
in
the
ag
district
that
may
have
more
of
a
commercial
agricultural.
C
B
B
E
E
E
B
B
It
just
has
to
be
managed,
and
it's
a
long-term
thing,
and
so
I
think
the
number
number
one
key.
B
Greater
good
so
to
speak,
so
there's
a
balancing
test.
I
just
want
to
point
it
out
to
recognize
it.
E
E
E
B
B
B
B
C
H
Of
this,
I
get
it
all
right.
Okay,
you
want
to
start
working
through
accessory
uses
on
page.
H
B
That
good,
yes,
okay,
so
why
don't
we
take
I'd,
say
five
we'll
come
back
at
10
20.
we'll
take
a
recess.
B
So
that
gives
us
50
a
couple
minutes
and
then
we'll
go
as
far
as
we
can
within
this.
We
do.
B
B
About
that
which
is
related
to
these
topics
and
then
we'll
stop
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
agenda.
B
Item
and
then
we'll
bring
this
topic
back.
I
guess
at
our
next
at
our
next
meeting
sure
that.
B
Work
for
everybody,
so
that's
that's
the
schedule
we'll
work
against
keep
the
trains
running
on.
H
H
The
ag
or
the
conservation,
district
and
they've
just
been
again
reformatted,
given
new
numbers.
H
H
It's
a
simpler
way
of
looking
at
it,
so
that
for
me
I'm
sorry,
I
have
lost
word.
Oh
right,
there.
H
H
There
to
the
bottom
will
just
be
replaced
by
chain
site
plan
approval
by
the
planning
commission.
H
Okay,
the
next
one
is
livestock
sales
yards
and
buildings.
Again,
this
is
existing.
H
Look
to
fix
it
retreat
facility
existing
again
site
development
plan
by
the
planning.
H
H
H
H
Rubble,
landfills,
again
all
existing
language,
other
than
d
is
probably
redundant
because
it's.
B
H
So
now
this
is
the
new.
We
talked
a
little
bit
about
this
commercial
wood
processing.
H
This
is
just
in
the
ag
district.
This.
H
H
H
H
H
Does
anybody
have
any
questions
on
that?
Okay,
so
the
next
one
again,
this
is
existing.
H
H
H
H
H
C
Had
kevin
addicts
who
was
part
of
the
original
farm
alcohol
producer
work
group
as
well
as
brenda.
C
C
C
H
Because
it
was
really
just
fixed,
yeah
right
so
now
we're
down
to
golf
courses.
You
did
have.
H
Since
we
have,
I
believe,
two
that
would
become
non-conforming,
but
they
do
need
a
site
plan.
H
Review
and
again
that
reference
to
155.059
has
to
change
because
that
section's
changing.
H
H
Okay,
the
next
one
158
170,
which
is
a
storage
lot
for
commercial
vehicles
in
the
ag
district.
H
H
Going
to
go
back
to
what
you
talked
about
in
the
beginning,
as
far
as
the
comments
you
received.
H
H
Zoning
right
so
the
agritourism
is
defined
in
the
state
land
use
article
and
it
has
the
sort.
N
Of
definition,
global
definition
of
agritourism
and
then
has
a
list
of
what
agritourism
includes.
B
Not
just
the
county
but
throughout
the
state,
and
that
they
do
permit
some
very
limited.
B
A
few
minutes
when
we
have
comment,
but
he
was
asking
that
agritourism
include
camping.
B
With
the
definition,
that's
in
the
state
code
that
would
that
would
solve
that
problem
at.
B
B
B
So,
if
I
can
interrupt,
we
don't
have
a
prohibition.
This
commercial
camping
area.
H
H
Having
to
fall
into
this
correct,
I
mean
we
looked
up
other
jurisdictions
in
maryland,.
C
It
seemed
that
the
standard
is
one
allowed
without
any
additional
site
plan
review.
C
But
beyond
that,
it
seemed
pretty
universal
that
there
needed
to
be
some
type
of
site
plan.
K
K
To
just
one
recreation,
vehicles
or
other
camping
vehicles,
as
sleeping
quarters
for.
K
H
B
The
definition
of
commercial
camping
area-
it's
not
commercial,
correct,
but
once
you
go
to
two.
K
That
that's
why
they're
there
for
a
site
plan?
Okay,
okay,
would
it
maybe
be
helpful
if
we.
C
Commercial
camping
from
concerned
citizens
at
least
two
yeah
yeah,
at
least
tim
okay,
good.
B
Morning,
state
your
name
and
address
please
good
morning:
jeremy
willett
at
willow,
family
farm.
P
And
my
reason
for
being
here,
as
you
know,
you've
received
my
written
testimony
which
gives
a.
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
O
O
O
B
O
O
B
Later,
maybe
not
today,
I
don't
know
if
we're
gonna
get
to
it,
but
and
so
your
comments
are
well.
B
Taken
the
my
understanding,
I'll
just
tell
you
quickly,
is
that
it
means
15
feet
as
in
linear.
B
A
O
O
And
and
obviously
like
I
said,
this
is
probably
taking
liberties
they're
proposing
to
build.
O
B
O
Extenuating
circumstances,
septic
considerations
that
would
may
require
the
house
to
be.
O
Further
away,
just
you
know,
to
get
gravity
flowed
to
a
septic
system.
I
guess
the
question
is:
if.
B
O
155,
okay,
so
I
will
wait
until
we
get
to
that
get
to
that
discussion,
but
thank
you,
yeah.
Thank
you.
B
All
right
so
back
for
the
commission,
anybody
else
have
any
comments.
Any
members
of
the
public.
J
H
B
B
B
H
K
In
the
state
code
yeah,
so
let
me
invite
mr
willett
back
up
because
since
he
was
involved
in.
A
P
P
P
P
P
As
a
as
it
is
currently,
we
would
still
operate.
One
like
I
stated
we're
not
interested
in
becoming.
P
A
commercial
campground:
we
do
feel
that
we
have
the
right
and
the
necessity
to
sell
our.
P
Products
through
this
venture
an
example
would
be
boggers
family,
their
main
way
of
selling.
P
P
We
have
enough
other
ag
related
opportunities
and
responsibilities.
Quite
frankly,
okay.
B
B
H
H
H
H
H
B
B
Whether
it's
whatever
it
is
so
again,
that's
not
something
we
have
to
solve
at
this
moment.
H
B
You
end
up
in
a
different
place
too.
I
mean
that's
why
I
say
I'm
not
asking
you
to
commit
to
anything
right
now,
but
just
I
think
it
makes
sense
just
to
take
a
look
at
it
and
right
for
texas
right.
B
Right
and
then
we
can,
that
can
be
one
of
the
ones
we
we
revisit
next
time.
C
B
H
H
H
Conservation
at
all,
but
it's
a
conditional
use
in
the
ag
district,
so
the
area
within.
H
Is
where
we
think
the
bza
will
have
a
little
bit
of
help
here?
The
minimum
area
of
the
property.
H
H
Changed
if
it's
less
than
10
dogs,
it's
200
feet.
If
it's
more
than
10
dogs,
it's
400
feet.
H
B
Also
is
that
the
vca
does
not
have
discretion
to
change
or
modify
five
acres
in
the
country.
B
B
Doesn't
get
changed,
they
don't
have
discretion
to
change
that
unless
we
said,
there's
no
variances.
H
B
B
E
Hearts
known
to
man
and
they
are
constantly
rehabilitating
dogs
and-
and
you
know,
rescuing.
E
E
Know
that
they've
gotten
to
ten
but
again
I
know
that
they,
the
two
or
three,
are
not
uncommon.
E
K
Code,
we
used
to
allow
only
three
dogs
on
a
property.
That's
been
taken
out
of
the
coat
so.
K
B
H
H
Get
back
to
what
we
did
was
we
took
your
guidance
and,
if
you
want
to
between
now
and
then.
B
Okay,
I
think
that's
that's
good!
Thank
you
for
honoring
our
time
limits
as
well
and
working.
B
Okay,
yes,
so
we'll
see
everybody
back
here
at
10
after
11
after
11,
something
like
that.
Thank
you.
B
We
can
have
everybody
get
settled,
you
don't
have
anybody
to
present
at
the
moment.
B
B
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Not
this
difficult
to
see
previously-
and
I
do
apologize
for
that,
but
you
were
sent
plans.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Reviewed
for
adequacy
of
public
facilities
according
to
chapter
155,
as
as
always
so.
B
And
I
appreciate
the
presentation:
the
report
is
good,
I
don't
I
mean
normally
here's
where
we.
B
B
We
don't
have
any
of
it
either.
So
the
only
question
I
guess
for
the
commission
is:
do
you.
B
E
Q
Street
obrecht
road
extension-
I
think
that's
to
the
north,
though,
is
it
not
to
the
north
and.
C
C
C
E
Q
Q
B
And
it
looks
like
kirsten
you're
presenting
on
this
one
as
well.
Q
Q
So,
thank
you
again
for
everybody.
For
being
here.
The
project
is
located
at
5202,
cleese
mill,
road.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Certification
of
document
signatures
on
the
documents
that
are
required
at.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
B
You
have
anything
to
add
to
the
presentation
really
I
I
would
just
like
to
add
that.
R
Out
there,
eight
foot
by
forty
foot,
all
they're
looking
to
do-
is
to
pull
that
out
and.
B
You
have
comments
on
the
other
thing
feel
free
to
bring
them
to
us.
You
have
any
questions.
Q
Q
Q
E
E
I
think
he's
pretty
high
up
and
if
the
process
has
been
long
to
get
this
done,
we
ought
to
because.
B
B
B
B
Q
B
B
B
I
will
welcome
anybody
that
wants
to
lead
us
in
the
discussion.
D
I
just
noticed
in
the
back
room
I
was
looking
at
the
agenda.
It
does
say
that
chris
and
david.
D
But
they're
all
here,
if
you
have
questions
for
them,
but
okay,
so
in
regards
to
chapter
155.
D
D
D
D
D
D
And
clear
here
so
after
going
through
all
of
that
you'll
remember,
you
said
great
we're
good.
D
D
D
Etc
so
at
this
point
we
we
have
received
one
email
from
a
citizen
and
it
went
actually.
D
D
D
D
Amendments
good!
Yes,
okay
again,
so
the
email
came
from
a
mr
bill
mccormack
directly
to
the.
D
D
Okay,
his
second
item
that
he.
D
D
D
D
Of
the
code
and
practices
that
we
we
take
on,
we
notify
people
via
postcard.
We
have
recently
looked.
D
E
E
Yeah,
I
think
it
has
a
circulation
of
10
000..
We've
got
190
000
people
living
in
the
county.
E
B
B
Legal
notices
in
the
newspaper
never
is
my
answer
right
and
that's
sort
of
the
same
issue
where.
N
N
D
N
Tries
to
do
what
they
can,
but
it's
certainly
a
conversation
worth
having
and
I
think
it
would.
B
B
B
B
B
An
interesting
point
and
again
a
discussion
maybe
around
that
that,
as
we
have
these
things.
B
B
B
B
Use
the
word
predictable
a
lot,
but
it
makes
it
predictable.
It
makes
it
easier
to
read
and.
B
So
unless
anybody
has
any
other
discussion
or
comments
well,
I
I
would
raise
the
last
thing
is.
E
And
those
are
stated
elsewhere,
and
so
I
get
being
not
wanting
to
be
verbose.
E
In
any
way,
by
doing
that
did
what's
what
you
no
we're,
not
diluting
the
authority,
the
authorities.
N
There
that
by
removing
that
wording,
does
not
dilute
the
authority
of
this
commission.
I
The
changes
that
mary's
going
to
bring
back
to
us
that
doesn't
affect
us
approving
this.
B
C
And
then
so,
what
I
will
do
is
draft
a
memo
on
behalf
of
the
planning
commission
that
you.
B
B
All
right,
then,
I
think
that
gets
us
through
the
agenda.
Thank
you
and
we're
on
to
item
17,
which.