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A
All
right
so
welcome.
All
of
you
welcome
to
casper
labs
weekly
community
call.
My
name
is
ashok
ranadive.
I
am
wait.
B
B
A
Right,
okay,
great
thank
you
ashley.
My
name
is
ashok
randyway.
Welcome.
All
of
you
to
a
casper
labs,
weekly
community
call,
I'm
ashok
and
I
head
the
professional
services
team
and
we
have
on
the
call
today,
anthem
and
sheratov
from
herosoft
and
mark
greenslade
who's
solutions.
Architect.
We
are
gonna
talk
about
the
the
the
herosoft
and
casper
combined
solutions
that
we
are
going
to
work.
We
are
going
to
be
working
on
and
I'll
also
update
the
the
current
status
of
our
project
after
that.
A
So
let
me
let
me
hand
over
to
anthem
and
shaira
to
quickly
introduce
themselves
and
after
that
mark
will
introduce,
and
then
we
will
talk
about
the
solution
that
we
are
presenting
here.
C
Sure
I'll
I'll
go
first
and
I'll,
let
shira
go
next
and
then
I'll.
Let
you
introduce
us.
My
name
is
anthem,
blanchard,
I'm
the
co-founder
and
ceo
of
aerosoft.
We
are
a
cybersecurity
company
that
specializes
in
ransomware
proof
100,
uptime
data
integrity
to
the
level
of
bitcoin
as
our
specialty.
C
We
started
originally
about
eight
years
ago,
developing
in
public
protocols
originally
to
help
make
gold
and
silver
more
valuable
by
making
them
more
useful
than
making
gold
and
silver
more
trustworthy.
A
few
years
ago,
through
this
inventory
log
that
we
created
that
we
realized
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
had
ransomware-proof
properties
such
as
having
100
public
protocols,
software
keys
required
to
access
the
network
and
have
total
distribution
of
the
application
and
the
data
to
the
edge
databases
of
the
user.
So
that
was
how
we
got
here.
C
That's
basically
a
brief
synopsis
of
our
origin
story
and
we're
really
humbled
and
grateful
to
be
partnered
with
the
casper
team.
It's
a
tremendous
honor!
I'm
really
just
excited
and
grateful
talk
about
good
timing
with
ethereum
fees
where
they're
at
and
kudos
to
ethereum
for
being
the
d5
layer.
Really
we
need
an
enterprise
processing
layer
and
I
really
believe,
after
a
lot
of
study
and
a
lot
of
patience,
that
casper
is
that
layer.
C
So
I'm
super
excited
and
humbled
anything
that
we
can
do
to
help
support
casper
on
the
development
side
that
has
been
our
specialty
is
really
taking
public
protocols
and
figuring
out
real
use
cases
for
them.
So
you
know
quickly,
partners
where
clients
our
bars
are
warburg
holland,
which
is
the
european
union
and
netherlands
official
metal
assayer.
C
Also
the
qatari
government
we're
announcing
this
week
tomorrow
we
launched
the
world's
first
incorruptable
mall
sweepstakes,
all
anchored
into
bitcoin.
So
that's
our
brief
synopsis
I'll.
Let
shira
introduce
herself
and
then
give
a
little
bit
more
kind
of
background
on
her
take
of
the
company,
and
then
you
know,
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
and
ensure
as
well.
A
Yeah
and
just
to
just
to
quickly
add
there
and
anthem
is
currently
in
dubai.
It
must
be
really
late
for
you,
anthem
really
appreciate
you
joining.
C
A
D
Wonderful
hi,
my
name
is
shira
rubinoff,
I'm
the
chief
strategy
officer
for
hero
software,
and
I
will
echo
in
on
anthem.
I've
never
been
with
a
company
before
that
everybody
is
just
unbelievable
people,
but
also
the
work
hours.
Everyone
is
happy
to
jump
on
at
any
random
weird
hours,
just
to
make
things
go
such
an
incredible
team
and
very
excited
to
be
partnering
with
casper.
D
By
way
of
my
background,
I
have
a
strong
background
in
cyber
security
ran
and
grew
next
to
two
cyber
companies
myself
been
advising
later
stage
startups
and
startups
for
the
last
16
years
and
advising
and
consulting
as
well
to
some
fortune,
100
and
200
companies
anthem
reached
out
to
me.
I
think
it
was
last
june
and
approached
me
all
about
harris
software.
D
I
was
super
excited
about
the
company,
the
people
and
these
opportunities
grown
by
leaps
and
bounds
and
joined
back
beginning
of
the
summer
and
very
excited
to
be
with
harrah
software
and
grow
it
out
and
as
well
the
partnership
with
casper
labs.
I
basically,
I
think
it
would
be
important
to
just
break
down
the
different
parts
of
hair
software
for
our
audience.
Just
to
them
understanding
the
layers
of
it
and
then
happy
to
turn
it
over
to
anthem
for
further
deeper
dive
in
in
the
blockchain
crypto
space.
D
Certainly
in
that
space
as
well,
but
he's
the
expert
over
here
and
no
one
can
speak
about
it
better
than
him.
So
I
will
talk
about
harris.
Software
is
an
enterprise
software
company
that
provides
ransomware-proof
solutions
to
not
only
private
enterprises,
but
governments
also
around
the
world
as
xanthan
was
mentioning
and
saying,
and
then
there's
anthem,
gold,
which
is
a
stable
gold
company
that
provides
buyers
with
a
way
to
own
gold
held
in
the
usa.
D
So
we
ask:
why
is
hercules
migrating
to
the
casper
network?
So
hercules
cloud
consists
entirely
of
a
public
protocol
layers
that
are
each
incorruptible
and
ransomware
proof.
So
hercules
sees
casper
as
anthem
was
saying
as
more
time
and
cost
efficient
processing
layer
to
provide
for
greater
scope
of
client
needs
and
wants.
So
we
are
super
excited
for
this
partnership
and
we're
happy
to
answer
any
further
questions.
A
Yeah
mark,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
shira
for
giving
that
a
background
very
excited
to
have
you
here
with
us
today
mark.
Could
you
introduce
yourself
as
well,
and
then
we
can
go
into
the
the
product
and
the
solution
that
we
are
working
together
for.
E
Sure
my
name
is
mark
greenslade,
I'm
an
integration
or
solution
architect
at
casper
labs.
I've
worked
as
a
engineer
architect
for
25
30
years.
I
guess
cross
public
sector
private
sector
europe,
us
so
fairly.
Deep
experience
across
a
broad
range
of
verticals
I
enjoy
building
out
complex
systems
distributed
systems
are
generally
complex.
E
So
blockchain
is
a
interesting
technology
and
a
useful
technology
from
a
solutions
architect
perspective
who's,
trying
to
deconstruct
complex
systems
so
that
they
can
be
delivered
on
a
kind
of
scale,
but
also
with
deep
security
guarantees,
I'm
based
in
switzerland
in
zug,
which
is
known
as
crypto
valley.
So
really
where
from
where
I
am
right
now,
there's
probably
at
least
300
startups
within
a
200
meter
radius,
it's
kind
of
quite
crazy.
Actually
so,
but
it
gives
me
a
very
unique
vantage
point
from
which
to
survey
the
the
blockchain
landscape.
A
Yeah
and
casper
labs
is
also
based
out
of
switzerland.
Just
just
get
out
of
that.
Okay,
let's
go
and
talk
about
the
solution
and
and
the
joint
you
know
product
that
we're
going
to
be
working
together,
maybe
anthem.
It
would
be
great
if
you
could.
You
know,
give
us
a
little
bit
of
background
as
to
what
we
are
trying
to
do
here
and
why
casper
labs
and
how
we
can
contribute
to
to
solve
your
current
challenges.
C
Well,
it's
a
big
one,
because
our
challenge
is
world
peace.
I
know
it
sounds
crazy,
but
he's.
C
I
I
I
really
believe
that
if
we
change
our
communication
in
commerce
from
corruptable
communication
to
incorruptable
communication,
what
will
happen
is
that
we'll
remove
prisoners,
dilemma
game
theory,
because
we
remove
fear
of
the
unknown
from
the
equation
that
causes
us
to
act
in
violence.
That's
why
we
have
wars,
that's
why
we
collude
against
each
other,
that's
where
we
can
have
light
speed
technology
today
that
cost
fractions
of
a
fraction
of
a
penny.
C
But
yet
billions
of
people
around
the
world
are
still
disenfranchised,
and
even
the
ones
that
have
wealth
are
disenfranchised,
maybe
even
more
in
some
cases
because
of
the
burden
of
violent
money,
violent
currency.
So
we
really
think
that
it's
critical
for
our
survival
and
are
increasing
our
wants
and
needs
of
enjoyment
perceived
to
be
able
to
move
to
trusted
communication,
which
only
public
protocols
can
provide
bitcoin
being
the
strongest.
C
That's
really
our
need,
and
the
only
way
we
can
achieve
this
commercial
ability
of
public
protocols
is
to
have
a
sufficient,
minimal,
viable
number
of
these
layers
to
create
a
minimal,
viable
trust,
computer
or
a
trust
cloud.
If
you
will
so
casper
review
is
really
integral
because
the
main
processing
layer-
that's
really
predominant
today,
ethereum
for
public
protocol,
is
obviously
showing
strains
and
there's
a
lot
of
questions
about
scalability
and
I
would
argue
even
maybe
ethereum
has
found
its
purpose
and
maybe
the
d5,
maybe
the
lending
layer.
C
You
know
there's
a
lot
of
really
neat
applications.
I
mean
I
wish
I
was
the
end-all
be-all.
I
mean
I
just
had
a
great
conversation
with
25
year
old
that
was
explaining
to
me.
You
know
how
people
are
using
ethereum
with
d5
without
even
any
collateral
and
basically
using
it
on
the
block,
speed
and
or
block,
and
that's
why
ethereum
has
gone
up
so
much
so
you
know
really.
C
The
casper
we
view
is
solely
focused
on
enterprise
solely
focus
on
transaction
speed,
on
cost
efficiency
and
for
us
you
know
it
doesn't
really
matter
if
the
the
layer
is
as
secure
as
bitcoin,
because
we're
always
entering
into
bitcoin.
So
I
think
that
provides
cover
also
for
casper
against
denial
of
service
attacks,
for
example,
and
things
like
that,
because
there's
redundancy
in
our
hercules
stack,
we
don't
try
to
do
everything
with
our
protocol.
C
Hercules,
we're
simply
a
very
simple
index
layer,
a
library,
if
you
will
that
accesses
all
these
other
layers,
ipfs
storj,
rr2,
storage,
lockers,
depending
on
the
client's
needs
it
needs
to
be
public
or
private.
If
there's
speed
concerns
with
quote-unquote
latency,
we
use
always
an
aggregator
of
some
sort
into
bitcoin.
We
started
with
factum
now
we're
looking
at
other
options
for
different
reasons
in
ethereum
but
similar
to
the
scalability
issue.
C
Obviously,
ethereum
has
been
our
processing
layer
and
now
we're
looking
for
the
substitute
because
for
our
use
cases
again,
they're
not
fulfilling
our
wants
and
needs
really
on
the
processing
layer
for
our
clients.
So
that's
really
kind
of
the
basis
of
you
know
from
the
high
all
the
way
to
the
low.
Basically
so
yeah
we're
really
believers
in
world
peace.
That's
our
mission,
so
trusted
commerce
go
to
the
places
where
the
corruption
is
the
worst,
which
is
usually
at
the
very
top
levels
of
the
wealth.
C
This
was
back
maintenance
october
29
2018,
and
then
we
had
a
year
anniversary
that
we
had
a
burn
provision
as
a
protection
mechanism.
For
our
private
token
buyers.
We
didn't
do
any
public
sales,
so
we
avoided
any
kind
of
security
potential
marketing
or
anything
of
that
nature.
We
only
sold
keys
after
testnet
of
hercules,
so
really
really
we're
super
conservative
there
and
we
versioned
hercules
to
erc
1155.
C
Now
these
are
all
things
we'd
love
to
see
they
might
already
built
and
be
built
into
casper,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
help
build
some
of
these
functions.
Erc
721
is
real.
Famous
for
being
the
nft
creator,
so
this
was
like
crypto
kitties,
you
can
think
of
erc20
is
basically
the
global
standard,
so
that
makes
really
universal
ability
into
like
wallets
quote.
Unquote,
you
know
any
kind
of
address
now.
C
Erc
1155
is
like
a
combination
of
erc,
20
and
721,
and
it
allows
an
infinite
number
of
nfts
to
get
created,
which
is
super
for
for
commerce,
because
imagine,
and
it's
most
simple
commercial
case
being
able
to
have
an
unlimited
number
of
contracts,
basically
tied
to
a
smart
contract.
So
that's
really
key.
The
other
key
thing
is
that
we
also
utilize
erc
20
version
050
and
our
stablecoin
builds
that
are
backed
by
something
the
reason
being
we
need
to
have
the
contract
feasible.
We
spoke
with
al
goran
about
a
year
ago.
C
That
was
one
of
my
big
concerns
with
them
is
that
I
didn't
see
at
the
time
that
they
had
any
freeze-ability
potential
or
even
a
roadmap
to
freezability.
So
these
are
all
things
you
have
to
have,
because
the
regulatory
environment
demands
them.
So
in
order
to
have
commercial
ability,
we
have
to
respect
the
regulations.
C
It
can
all
be
coded.
It
just
has
to
be
mindful
right,
you
have
to
understand
the
issues
and
you
really
only
have
the
knowledge
with
the
experience.
So
I
call
myself
kind
of
the
don
quixote
of
the
team.
I
mean
we
have
a
bunch
of
da
vinci's
like
shira,
and
we've
got
dozens
of
others
now
that
just
kind
of
have
appeared
out
of
nowhere,
the
last
12
months
and
have
been
attracted
to
us
and
our
proposition
value-wise,
which
I'm
incredibly
humbled
by
and
grateful
for
and
yeah.
C
This
is
kind
of
again
a
bit
of
the
road
map
and
and
we're
you
know
we
have
on
the
team
guy
that
won
the
east
new
york,
hackathon
john
may
super
coder
and
web
three.
We
have
a
lot
of
other
talent
like
that.
You
know
so
really
we're
looking
just
to
kind
of
shed
the
light
that
we've
basically
given
to
ethereum
and
other
public
protocols.
We've
worked
with
counterparty
in
the
past.
C
We've
worked
x11
script,
which
was
darkcoin
now
dash
in
the
past,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
these
protocols
like
practical
experience,
so
you
know
where
are
the
constraints
in
them
and
again
that's
why
we're
really
excited
about
casper,
because
I
think
that
casper
has
cleared
a
lot
of
the
processing
protocol
constraints
that
have
hamstrung
all
the
others
out
there
and
there's
dozens
or
hundreds
or
thousands.
Maybe
at
this
point
and
casper
really,
I
think,
differentiates
itself
as
a
serious
enterprise
protocol
has
hired
serious
people.
C
D
C
In
new
york
for
a
dinner
and
now
to
see
how
far
things
have
come
and
the
consistency
it's
rare
in
the
space
right,
normally
we
see
people
doing
task,
grabs
people
disappearing,
people,
not
developing
people,
not
versioning
and
totally
the
opposite.
It
seems
like
with
casper,
so
I'm
super
humbled
and
grateful
for
everything
that
you've
done.
Even
if
we
weren't
working
with
you
I'd
be
grateful.
So
the
fact
that
we're
working
with
you,
I'm
elated,
so
it's
it's
a
real
honor,
so
yeah
that.
A
B
A
It's
it's
great
to
have
you
as
a
partner
until
a
strong
support,
and
you
know
your
guidance
has
also
been
very
helpful
for
us,
and
one
thing
I
completely
relate
with.
You
is
the
incredible
talent
that
we
have
on
the
team.
Definitely
I've
done
12
years
at
google
before
joining
casper,
and
I
that's
one
thing
that
really
attracted
me
is
the
incredible
talent
that
we
have
on
the
team
and
the
vision
that
manal
and
meda
have
towards
creating
something
which
is
for
enterprises
and
not
just
just
crypto
in
itself.
A
But
you
know
something
that
will
enable
enterprises
to
bring
this
technology
to
solve
real-world
problems.
Moving
on
mark,
would
you
be
able
to
give
us
a
little
bit
background
around
how
we
are
approaching
the
solution
and
what
are
some
of
the
steps
that
we
are
going
to
take
in
the
near
future?.
E
Well,
the
casper
network
is
very
close
to
its
first
iteration
as
mainnet,
really
the
team's
been
working
very
hard
over
the
course
of
the
last
two
years
or
so,
and
that
pathway
hasn't
always
been
smooth.
There's
been
some
kind
of
refactoring
re-engineering
at
times,
but
the
solution
has
converged
on
a
pure
rust
implementation.
E
So
we
know
that
this
is
going
to
be
pretty
performant
from
a
systems
programming
perspective,
the
smart
contract
engine
that
is
associated
with
this
network,
the
contract
runtime
is,
is
obviously
rust
implementation,
but
the
the
smart
contracts
themselves
can
be
written
either
in
rust,
which
is
using
what
we
call
an
embedded
domain,
specific
language
or
there's
a
transpiler
from
solidity
to
russ.
So
we
really
want
to
kind
of
streamline
the
solidity.
E
E
The
smart
contract
feature
set
is,
I
would
say,
at
this
point
in
time
completely
comparable
with
ethereum
but
is
getting
there,
but
and
also
has
some
unique
features,
particularly
around
the
context
of
smart
accounts.
The
account
model
is
quite
different
and
I
think
there's
some
interesting
use
cases
they're
going
to
allow
businesses
to
do
things
a
probably
a
more
secure
way
than
they
may
do
on
other
networks.
A
Great
yeah,
so,
in
addition
to
the
cast
pilot,
which
is
essentially
a
really
important
piece
that
we
are
building
which
will
help,
you
know
aerosoft
kind
of
convert
the
current
current
solution
that
they
have
over
to
casper.
A
We
also
have
so
the
key
key
aspects
like
you
know,
multi-signature
and
then
key
management,
which
is
essential
for
governance
and
anthem.
You
talked
about
a
little
bit
about
you
know
having
tight
governance.
A
I
think
those
those
features
will
be
really
useful
in
addition
to
that,
upgradable
contracts
will
make
a
lot
of
these
things
easier
from
app
developer
perspective,
because
real
enterprises
need
ways
to
to
improve
on
on
their
solution,
and
I
think
that
upgradable
contracts
feature
gives
us
that
benefit
of
being
able
to
continuously
improve
on
the
solutions
that
we
are
providing
so
shira.
In
your
opinion.
What
would
be
what?
What's?
What
would
be
the
next
steps
here,
and
how
do
you
see
the
larger
picture?
D
Now,
thank
you
for
that.
D
I
just
before
I
answered
that,
and
I
actually
would
pass
a
little
bit
more
of
that
off
to
anthem,
but
I
just
want
to
highlight
something
very
important
that
in
the
world
today,
as
we
all
know,
cyber
security
is
looked
at
as
something
that's
a
must
have
and
what
is
so
impressive
and
important
that
harrison
brings
to
the
table
as
well
is
the
need,
and
certainly
with
casper
labs,
the
need
to
have
proper
security
built
the
right
way
from
the
bottom
up
from
the
ground
up
and
really
do
that
in
the
right
way
and
ransomware-proof
technology
and
solutions
is
what
the
whole
world
is
clamoring
through
and
for
and
not
and
it
doesn't,
it
could
be
anything
it
could
be
for
any
vertical
you're
thinking
about
this
is
what
is
needed,
and
not
just
a
if
you
look
at
technology
buys
and
three
buckets
are
good
to
have
and
nice
to
have
it
and
need
to
have
good
to
have
is
something
that
yeah
one
day
nice
tabs
yeah.
D
We
need
it.
Let's
wait
for
the
budgets,
but
a
need
to
have
is
where
we
are
right
now,
where
are
we
sitting
with
casper
labs
and
harrison
that
people
have
a
pain
point
that
they
need
to
solve,
and
this
is
really
gonna
solve
this
and
anthem?
I'd
love.
If
you
would
express
that
a
little
further
since
you
are
so
passionate
about
it,
I
think
your
words
would
really
resonate
with
everybody
around
this.
C
Well,
I
mean
we're
just
greenfield
right
now
I
mean,
if
you
imagine,
every
single
good
in
service
served
today
by
forced
marketplaces,
governments
and
businesses
that
are
all
run
by
corruptable
models,
even
ours
and
really
anyone
right.
We
envision
hercules
kind
of
being
the
extension
of
hera,
eventually
that
really
we're
looking
at
a
world
that
is
totally
devoid
of
trust,
and
I
mean
we're
talking
basic
layers
that
need
I
mean
I'm
talking
smtp
imap.
Still
I
mean
bit.
Message
has
been
tried
really
early
with
the
market
timing
we've
suffered
from
early
market
timing.
C
Ourselves,
I
mean
casper
has
been
impeccable
with
it
with
with
its
market
timing.
You
know
we
bought
ourselves
money
by
giving
away
time
and
suffered
some
of
the
consequences.
That
said,
it's
given
us
a
ton
of
experience
through
failure
to
now
get
to
the
market
timing
that
we're
at
I
view
things
like
telephony
operating
systems.
C
C
We
are
replacing
thousands
of
years
of
forest
marketplaces
here
and
we're
only
12
years
into
this
experiment,
so
I
mean
I,
I
think,
that
the
biggest
clients,
the
governments
first
and
then
the
clients
that
maybe
they're
in
big
organizations-
maybe
not,
but
maybe
they're-
used
services
used
by
a
lot
of
people,
maybe
not
directly
through
a
government
entity,
maybe
through
a
series
of
private
entities.
Those
are
things
we
like
to
focus
on,
for
example
like,
on
the
lower
end,
we're
looking
at
an
urgent
care,
sms
tech
scheduler.
C
D
C
The
last
day
we
were
there
an
awesome
meeting
the
night
the
afternoon
before
into
the
night,
and
and
really
you
know,
we're
really
lucky
because
I've,
you
know,
we've
had
a
lot
of
exposure.
We've
done
seven
plus
eight
years
of
pr
we're
recognizable.
You
know
we
haven't
been
one
of
these
teams
that
just
took
the
money
and
ran
like
you.
Guys
are
the
same
boat,
so
you
know
we're
some
of
the
few
people
that
people
actually
respect
and
maybe
we're
not
the
best.
C
Maybe
we're
not
always
the
brightest,
maybe
we
don't
always
have
the
timing,
but
what
we
do
always
have
is
the
consistency
and
the
persistence
and
the
passion
and
the
patience.
So
those
are
things
that
we've
all
exhibited
and
you
know
as
a
team-
and
I
think
now
we're
really
lucky
that
the
market
timing
for
commercialization
of
this
technology
is
here
more
layers,
the
better.
C
You
know
we
really
like
to
work
with
other
teams,
so
you
know,
I
think
the
scope
of
your
network
will
be
massive
and
any
way
that
we
can
help
lend
some
of
our
practical
development
experience.
You
know,
obviously
you
all
have
a
ton
of
resources.
You
know.
Hopefully
we
can
help.
You
know
you,
you
know
maximize
the
efficiency
of
those
resources
with
the
builds.
You
know
you
can
lean
on
us
as
advisors
and
you
know.
C
Hopefully
we
can
lean
on
you
the
same,
and
you
know
we're
here
to
share
you
know:
that's
the
new
economy
is
access
based,
not
ownership
based,
and
so
you
know
we're
really
believers
in
that,
and
we
really
see
each
protocol
is
best
in
public
protocol
when
it
does
one
specific
thing.
Well,
we
find
that
when
protocols
try
to
do
more
than
one
thing
well,
they
typically
get
eclipsed
by
another
protocol.
C
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
really
attracted
me
to
casper
that
it's
really,
I
look
at
it
like
as
a
transaction
speed
protocol
or
like
an
efficiency
protocol,
maybe
now
called
more
of
an
enterprise
processing
protocol.
You
know
and
those
things
I
I
just.
I
love
the
common
sense
for
lack
of
a
better
phrase.
You
know
it's
real,
practical
approach
that
that
you
all
take,
because
that's
kind
of
been
our
attempt
to
really
always
try
to
stay
practical,
and
it's
led
us
to
to
here.
C
You
know
our
10-year
anniversary
of
being
an
entity
as
a
gold
company,
an
anthem
vault
is
tomorrow.
I
believe
the
11th.
C
So,
thank
you.
It
took
us
nine
years
to
find
direction.
Right
literally,
we
were
struggling
as
a
retail
gold
company
trying
to
then
go
into
supply
chain,
still
kind
of
you
know
early
as
a
differentiator
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
it
just
clicked
for
me
for
some
reason
I
read
something
or
had
a
conversation
or
both.
I
wish
I
remembered
the
origin
story
of
this,
but
basically
I
just
like
was
like.
C
Oh,
this
is
ransomware
proof
and
then
it
was,
and
then
it
literally
took
me
getting
into
march
of
last
year
to
really
like
convince
the
team
and
ultimately
see
the
traction
it
was
like
when
covid
hit
quote
unquote.
All
of
a
sudden
people
started
to
get
cyber
security
and
ransomware.
You
know,
maybe
now,
because
people
are
working
at
home
in
these
big
companies
in
government.
C
So
maybe
now
like
the
mainframe
approach
or
central
cloud,
it's
just
it's
a
weird
experiment
that,
like
it's
a
weird
psychology
ultimately,
but
it's
the
reality
of
what
we
experience
so
like
the
market
timing
is
just
click
now,
all
of
a
sudden.
I
think
because
people
see
that
their
wants
and
needs
are
really
not
being
met
today
and
they're.
Asking
questions
I
mean:
is
it
really
about
a
mask
and
a
virus,
or
is
it
really
about
a
true?
C
You
know
issue
with
the
way
that
our
goods
and
services
are
being
woefully
unmet,
and
I
think
it's
the
latter
and
I
think
we
just
live
in
so
much
fear.
We
need
boogie
men,
you
know
we
need.
We
need
to
point
to.
You
know
a
bad
guy
right,
we're
all
heroes
and
villains
in
forced
marketplace.
So
you
know
we
need
to
assess
blame.
You
know
to
project
on
someone
else
or
others.
Basically,
so
yeah
I
mean
that's
kind
of
my
perspective.
I.
E
C
Yeah-
and
I
also
believe
that
seeing
central
banks
having
to
push
now
to
negative
interest
rates
as
a
death.
Now,
because
now
you
have
optionality-
okay,
maybe
I
put
it
in
usdt
or
usdc
or
make
or
die
or
bitcoin.
Why
am
I
going
to
be
doing
negative
interest
rates
on
the
institutional
level?
Now
I
mean
we're
in
a
world
of
negative
interest
rates
for
the
first
time
really
in
history,
and
they
keep
going
more
negative.
C
We're
not
seeing
hyperinflation
that
I
mean
interest
rates,
are
the
price
of
money
or
currency
more
generally,
and
so,
when
we
see
zero
and
negative
interest
rates,
it
kind
of
means
that
currency
has
become
irrelevant
in
a
lot
of
ways,
because
there's
so
much
lack
of
demand
for
it
and
to
your
point,
we've
really
seen
massive
amounts
of
derivative
credit
get
created,
whereas
base
currency
has
been
woefully
not.
I
mean
in
europe,
we've
seen
some
universal
basic
income,
but
in
the
us
we
haven't.
C
We
saw
a
little
bit
of
debt
forgiveness
on
some
corporate
loans
that
were
given
by
the
u.s
government
last
year,
but
I
mean
looking
at
our
own
companies.
Ratio
was
six
to
one
in
terms
of
forgivable
debt,
quote-unquote
that
adds
to
monetary
base
versus
unforgivable
debt.
Granted
it's
a
30-year
loan
at
like
two-person
interest,
but
still
you
know
how
many
companies
can't
even
pay
back
any
of
it
right,
and
then
you
compound
that
even
further.
C
A
Yeah
yeah-
and
I
you
know
at
casper
labs-
we're
really
excited
to
be
partnering
with
you,
anthem
and
shira
hero
soft.
I
think
we
align
ourselves
with
the
kind
of
vision
that
you
just
portrayed.
A
Casper
labs
was
founded
on
those
principles
of
decentralization
you
know
and
making
sure
that
it's
a
public
chain
open
to
all
permissionless
secure.
I
think
those
those
core
values
really
resonate
very
well
with
herosoft,
so
really
excited
to
be
to
be
partnering
with
you
and
building
a
real
world
solution.
C
Humbled
and
grateful
beyond.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
trust
in
us
and
I'm
really
grateful
for
you
all,
because
without
you
I
don't
know
what
we
do
honestly
in
the
next.
You
know
near
future
here
with
these
builds
that
we're
having
to
rely
on
ethereum
with
so
your
timing
is
impeccable.
You're,
you're,
all
heroes.
A
Thank
you
really
appreciate
joining
us.
Anthem
must
be
super
late
for
you
in
dubai
shira.
Thank
you
for.
C
D
A
A
Appreciate
you
all
that
that
was
that
was
great
in
a
really
really
incredible
story:
hero
soft
and
you
know
the
the
vision
that
that
anthem
just
portrayed
great
to
be
partnering
with
herosoft
moving
over
to
our
our
weekly
update.
Let
me
pull
up
the
current
status
and
share
my
screen.
A
Again,
all
right
are
you
able
to
see
my
screen.
A
A
All
right,
okay,
so
this
week
we
entered
sprint
number
11.1
of
release.
A
21.03
this
this
release
is
going
to
be
our
first
production
version.
So
far
we
have
tested
running
from
march
2019
2020,
and
we
we
have.
This
is
the
first
production
version
that
we'll
be
releasing
at
the
end
of
this
release.
A
Currently
we
have
tag
v0.7.6,
it's
written
here
at
7.5,
but
the
one
that
we
have
is
actually
7.6,
which
has
been
launched
as
a
delta
test
net.
Yesterday
we
have
reached
block
height
of
I'm
just
pulling
up
the
explorer
816.
The
network
is
stable.
We
are
producing
a
block
about
every
minute
and
we
can
see
some
deploys
also
here
on
on
the
on
the
screen.
You
can
see
the
deploys.
We
are
in
era
30.
A
A
So
on
the
highway
we
have,
we've
been
working
on,
node
should
walk
the
linear
chain
backwards.
This
is
essentially
required
for
the
era
supervisor
to
initialize
the
past
theories,
so
that
the
cross
eras
flashing
is
possible.
So
that's
the
work
that
is
currently
happening
on
the
highway
memory
usage.
We
saw
a
lot
of
memory
usage,
optimization
opportunities,
so
this
one
is
essentially
working
for
reducing
the
the
memory
usage.
A
When
messages
come
when
the
vertex
come
and
it
doesn't
have
all
the
dependencies
we
added
to
a
queue
and
the
synchronizer
queue
kind
of
has
duplicate
entries
so
to
eliminate
that,
and
particularly
if
you
have
more
number
of
nodes,
this
the
skew
really
grows.
So
the
work
that
is
being
done
is
to
basically
eliminate
duplicate
entries
and
convert
this
queue
into
a
map
so
that
we
just
update
the
timestamp.
A
A
We
have
we
have.
We
have
enabled
protocol
upgrades
on
the
network
now
so
at
the
predetermined
future
era.
Height
network
can
be
upgraded.
A
However,
if
a
node
is
joining
a
network
which
has
already
gone
through
an
upgrade,
then
the
node
has
to
be
able
to
go
through
the
upgrade
process
as
it
joins
from
genesis.
So
that's
that's
essentially
the
work
that
is
happening.
We
are
also
working
on
fast
sync,
which
will
eliminate
this
problem
and
make
it
simpler.
A
Node
upgrade
work
in
support
of
test
and
second
version,
basically
additional
work
that
we
need
for
supporting
protocol
upgrade
that
I
just
mentioned-
and
here
was
we're
also
working
on
prototype
journal.
That's
the
first
thing
that
that
I
just
mentioned.
A
If,
if
you
have
a
very
large
network,
essentially
it
will
be
large
in
the
sense
that
it
is,
it
is
processed
many
blocks.
It
has
been
up
for
a
while.
Then
it's
it
becomes
almost
impossible
for
a
node
to
really
join
from
genesis.
So
we
need
to
be
able
to
provide
some
kind
of
state
transfer
ability
to
state
transfer
and
some
checkpoints.
So
that's
the
work
that
we
are
currently
doing
and
that's
the
prototype
join
our
work.
A
Our
test
and
sre
team
is
really
busy
heads
down
working
supporting
the
test
net
delta
and
making
sure
that
we
are.
We
get
all
the
metrics
and
you
know,
information
that
needs
that
is
required
for
us
to
keep
on
improving
and
optimizing
the
network
also
working
on
automating
using
ansible
for
running
some
tests.
Automated
tests
currently
targeted
on
aws,
but
we
should
be
able
to
use
any
platform
ecosystem
team
is
working
continues
to
work
on
javascript,
sdk
enhancement.
A
A
There's
work
on
upgradeable
contracts
and,
as
we
speak,
each
denver
hackathon
is
happening.
That's
that's
where
actually
medha
is
busy
today
and
I'm
filling
in
for
her.
So
the
ether
denver
hackathon
has
has
a
few
of
a
few
opportunities
for
we've
got
like
three
projects
on
the
hackathon
to
I
can
talk
about
it.
You
know
a
second.
A
Yeah,
so
we
have
bug
bounties
to
to
to
hack
casper
network.
There
is
one
on
the
sdk
javascript
sdk,
there's
one
on
smart
contract
at
test.
There
is
one
on
erc20
tutorial
that
we
rc20
is
something
that
we
talked
about
when
we
were
talking
about
solution
with
aerosoft
and
also
demonstrating
key
recovery
using
casper.
A
At
ether,
denver
sorry
coming
to.
A
Economic
research,
we're
working
on
sanity,
checks
for
incentive
distribution,
so.
A
The
validators
are
incentivized
with
rewards,
and
we
want
to.
We
want
to
play
some
simulations
and
alex.
F
Maybe
you
can
talk
about
it
a
little
bit?
Yes,
so
yeah.
Unfortunately,
I
think
you
got
to
either
I
wrote
it
incorrectly
where
it
was
pasted
incorrectly,
they
should
say
sanity
check
and
reward
distribution
yeah.
So
basically,
well,
you
know
we
have,
and
this
is
actually
something
that
anybody
can
see
if
they
go
to.
F
You
know
the
econ
paper
repo,
but
you
know
we
have
a
formula
for
you
know
paying
out
paying
out,
rewards
to
validators
and
they're
implemented
in
theory,
but
we
didn't
yet
do
extensive
testing
to
make
sure
that
they
produce
the
aggregate
outcomes
that
we
expect
in
a
real
system
right.
So
in
a
real
system
you
know,
obviously
you
know
validators
might
change
exponents.
You
know
some
of
them
might
drop
out
and
rejoin,
and
things
like
that.
F
So
you
know
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
aggregate
numbers
come
out
to
be.
You
know
what
we
expect
them
to
be
right
that
they
match.
You
know
the
growth
of
the
token
base
that
we
expect.
F
So
that's
the
first
bullet
point
here
and
the
second
one
is
just
a
continuation
of
you
know,
trying
to
build
a
small
model
of
you
know
validator
strategic
behavior,
where
they
exploit
the
possibility
of
pushing
out
some
of
the
smaller
stakes
from
the
auction,
because
we
need
to
determine
how
much
for
problem
that's
likely
to
be
because
if
he
knows
that
note
splitting
is
not
really
that
much
of
a
concern
really
strategic
note
split
and
there's
not
that
much
of
a
concern
when
token
distribution
is
relatively
even
but
if
it
is
not,
the
larger
validators
might
be
able
to
benefit
from
these
tactics.
F
So
I'm
trying
to
characterize
the
game
theoretically
and
figure
out.
You
know
what
was
the
equilibrium
given.
You
know
particular
distribution
of
starting
token
allocations,
but
that's
so
simple
might
take
a
while,
of
course,
to
get
there.
A
So
a
lot
of
effort
is
being
put
continuously
to
make
sure
that
you
know
the
assumptions
and
cross-checking
and
validating
the
assumptions
moving
over
to
contract
runtime
senior
age
rewards.
A
So
this
was
the
senior
race
rewards,
are
now
being
reinvested
for
a
validator
so
that
the
rewards
that
the
validators
get
will
actually
increase
their
bid
in
the
auction
contract
and
if
they
want
to
withdraw
the
rewards,
it's
basically
a
dropbit
method
is
to
be
used
in
the
auction
contract
implementation
of
event,
non-participating
validators.
A
So
this
is
basically
to
to
ensure
liveness,
so
the
casper
network,
you
know
it
it.
It
can
make
progress
only
when
there
is
a
certain
percentage
which
is
decided
by
fault
tolerance,
threshold.
Certain
percentage
of
the
validator
weight
is
correctly
functioning
and
and
and
is
his
life
and
if
valid,
if
a
node
goes
offline
and
and
does
not
participate
in
consensus
on
that.
That
way,
it
can
go
down
the
the
limit
required
and
kind
of
have
liveness
issues.
A
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
a
non-participating
or
inactive
well
validator
is
evicted
out
and
that's
the
work
that's
going
on
on
the
contract
run
time
or
execution
engine
side.
Other
than
that
a
quick
update
on
delta
delta
was
launched.
Yesterday
it's
stable.
It's
it's
working,
going
well,
there's
some
initial
issue
that
was
caused
because
of
firewalls.
A
If
there
is
a
two-strict
firewall
setting
the
network,
the
node
was
not
able
to
communicate
with
the
network.
The
output
communication
was
affected
so
that
initially
gave
us
some
hiccups,
but
when
we
updated
the
validators
with
what
needs
to
be
done
on
their
side,
I
think
that
problem
is
behind
us.
Now,
on
the
team
front,
we
have
a
new
addition
and
dimitri
yakulovic
has
joined
us
from
world
of
stock
russia
as
a
deaf
developer.
A
Yeah,
that's
all
on
the
current
status
update.
I
think
we
should
open
up
for
questions
now.
A
B
But
here's
one
that
we
can
ask:
how
will
anthem,
gold
customers
experience
change
when
hercules
goes
live
on.
A
Casper
is
this
something
that
you
can
you
can
talk
to,
how
how
do
you,
how
how
do
you
and
massage
the
the
customers,
your
customers,
will
experience
the
change.
D
A
So
there's
a
question
as
how
will
anthem,
gold
customers
experience
change
when.
A
A
A
I
can
talk
to
talk
to
it
a
little
bit
so
basically,
I
think
the
key
key
challenge
that
is
currently
being
faced
by
that
gold
customers
would
be
high
gas
fees
that
they
are
experiencing
on
ethereum
and
also
the
congestion
on
the
network.
A
C
Connectivity,
okay,
my
apologies,
so
yeah
effectively
speed
and
cost.
That's
the
real
simple
answer
right:
if
it's
a
stable
coin,
it
needs
speed
and
it
needs
to
be
relatively
efficient
right,
otherwise,
it's
impossible
to
compete
with
the
legacy
system.
So
you
know
the
legacy
system.
We
know
has
all
these
costs
already,
so
we're
going
into
a
processing
layer,
that's
going
to
give
us
even
more
cost
and
more
uncertainty
in
a
lot
of
ways.
It's
it's
kind
of
a
non-starter,
so
you
know
we
kind
of
pinned
our
hopes
on
ethereum.
C
Really
it
was
kind
of
the
only
option
for
us,
because
really
the
only
option
that
could
really
check
box
all
the
regulatory
constraints.
So
that's
why
we
have
to
choose
ethereum
now
we
can
choose
you
all
because
casper,
because
you
also
check
all
the
regulatory
boxes
and
you
check
the
efficiency
boxes
on
the
processing
layer.
That's
really
the
keys!
C
A
E
One
reason
is
because
some
of
the
conceptual
underpinnings
of
the
account
model
upon
ethereum
upon
kaspar
are
actually
different,
so
there's
going
to
be
need
to
be
some
kind
of
abstraction,
that's
as
you
port,
across
your
accounts
from
one
chain
to
another
you're
going
to
have
to
kind
of
redesign
really
how
you
interact
with
your
accounts.
To
a
certain
degree,
however,
I
would
say
right
now,
probably
about
75
of
the
constructs
are
portable
in
terms
of
how
a
transpiler
works.
E
It's
relatively
straightforward,
there's
a
lexical
parcel
which
takes
in
solidity
contracts.
It
will,
if
you
have
a
suite
of
contracts,
that
you
know,
there's
like
a
hierarchy
of
dependencies,
it
will
analyze
those
dependencies
and
then
those
contracts
will
act
as
input
into
the
let's
call
passer,
which
will
emit
a
token
stream
and
that
token
stream
will
be
the
transpiled
rust
smart
contract.
E
The
smart,
the
transpiled
contract
at
the
moment
is
very
low
level
rust
code.
However,
our
smart
contract
team
is
incubating
what
we
call
an
edsl
embedded
domain,
specific
language
which
is
designed
to
stream,
streamline
developer
experience.
So
I
would
imagine
that
the
transpiler,
as
the
edsl
matures
will
be
emitting
contracts
that
take
advantage
of
the
edsl.
A
Thank
you
mark.
I
think
we
have.
We
have
time
for
one
more
question:
how
does
heras
use
erc20,
erc721
and
erc
1155?
How
will
the
partnership
accelerate
their
development
on
casper.
C
So
the
answer
to
that
question
really
is
that
today
the
hercules
protocol
runs
on
erc
1155,
and
this
is
a
really
really
cool
version
of
ethereum
that
I'd
love
to
see
implemented.
If
it
hasn't
been
already
in
casper.
What
it
does
is
it
takes
erc20
universal
compatibility.
It
basically
is
erc
20
as
a
header.
If
you
will
and
then
kind
of
as
a
footer,
if
you
will
it
incorporates
erc
721
effectively,
which
is
an
nft,
but
then
it
actually
does
something.
C
A
bit
more
erc
721
only
allows
like
one
layer
of
nft
and
what
1155
does
it
allows
an
unlimited
number
of
layers
of
nft.
So
imagine,
for
example,
you
know,
let's
say
that
you
have
a
contract
that
you
want
to
have
as
a
smart
contract,
but
then
let's
say
you
have
a
revision
to
that
contract.
Maybe
another
revision.
C
Then
you
sign
the
agreement
now
you're
processing
services
based
on
that
agreement,
every
single
one
of
those
milestones
or
any
actions,
if
you
will
can
be
preserved
in
a
unique
digital
state,
and
so
that
is
really
really
powerful
like
if
you
think
about
the
commercial
applications
of
nfts-
and
you
can
even
do
you
know-
really
we're
big
into
gamifying
everything.
So
what
you
can
take
is
like
a
cartoon
nft.
C
You
could
also
integrate
a
contract
like,
for
example,
one
of
the
builds
that
we're
speculating
on
is
through
one
of
the
royal
families
here
in
the
united
arab
emirates.
They
have
a
falconry
done,
they're,
really
big
into
pet
birds
here,
especially
the
wealthy,
and
so
basically
there.
The
problem
is
like
the
universal
problem.
How
did
the
older
generations
connect
with
the
younger
generations
and
I've
seen
this
like
training
people
on
how
to
custody
satoshi's
before
high
net
worth
low
net
worth
doesn't
matter?
C
So
you
know
basically
from
that
standpoint
you
know
it's
very,
very
powerful,
so
you
know
looking
at,
like
the
falcon
registry,
sure
we're
going
to
save
like
the
date
of
birth
and
the
vet
records
and
the
health
records
and
the
chain
of
custody
if
it
was
bought
from
someone
else,
but
we
also
are
going
to
do
is
create
a
digitized
cartoon
version
of
the
falcons.
If
you
will
that
can
play,
they
can
fight,
they
can
interact
right
now.
This
can
be
a
form
of
proof
of
work.
C
C
Let
the
experts
be
experts,
you
know
let
the
cutting
edge
bleeding
defy
people
and
nft
people
be
themselves
and
then
leverage
that
code
right
for
commercial
applicability
once
there's
enough
code
out
there
written
so
right,
you
can
kind
of
look
at
our
progression
with
hercules.
Going
from
like
an
erc20
to
1155
is
an
example
of
that.
You
know
how
to
version
how
to
take
the
best
of
what's
around
and
then
how
to
let
it
mature
a
little
bit
and
then
how
do
we
apply
it
in
commercial
ways.
A
Yeah,
that's
an
incredibly
incredible
use
case.
You
talked
about
there
but
yeah.
I
think
we
are
out
of
time
one
minute
over.
Actually
thank
you
so
much
for
all
of
you
for
joining
anthem
and
shweta,
especially
it's
late
for
you
guys
mark,
is
awesome.
Grateful.