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A
Fantastic
thanks,
everyone
for
joining
us,
basically,
the
I
think
the
vca
process
has
lagged
behind
a
little
bit
hasn't
had
attention
for
a
few
funds.
Now
it
got
started
up
and
and
and
rolled
rolled
along
nicely
for
a
little
bit
and
then
last
funds.
A
I
think
a
lot
of
people
started
to
identify
that
there's
some
holes
and
lacking
attention
so
part
of
what
this
is
was
that
I
noticed
that
that
was
happening,
and
you
know
instead
of
just
if
you
see
something,
do
something
say
something
so
that's
kind
of
what
this
is
about,
and
part
of
this
was
that
we
noticed
that
there
was
extremely
high
level
of.
A
A
small
number
of
vcas
doing
a
lot
of
the
reviews,
so
just
as
an
example
of
this
I
unfortunately
didn't
get
onto
alex.
Who
did
a
lot
of
good
analysis
over
the
last
two
funds?
He
hasn't
been
online
for
a
little
while,
so
I
was
hoping
that
he
was
going
to
be
able
to
be
here
to
explain
some
of
this,
but
unfortunately
he's
not.
I
will
just
share
my
screen
to
show
you
some
of
the
work
he
has
done.
Can
you
see
this
percentage
gef
document,
hopefully
yep
yep?
A
Basically,
95
of
all
reviews
were
done
by
65
of
the
top
vcas,
which
means
it
was
super
concentrated
onto
people
that
were
doing
a
massive
amount
of
reviews.
So
if
you
look
at
the
top
one,
they
reviewed
9158.
A
So
some
of
us
have
done
mental
calculations
on
this,
and
it's
kind
of
you
know
in
the
process.
I
think
it's
one
every
couple
of
minutes
or
something
like
that
non-stop
for
for
the
entire
process.
So
it's
fairly
obvious
that
someone
probably
didn't
do
that,
so
they
they
must
have
chosen
to
participate
in
in
a
unintended
way.
Let's
say
so.
You
can
just
look
through
this
list
and
you
know
probably
in
the
thousands.
Maybe
someone
could
have
done
that
if
they
really
dedicate
a
lot
of
time.
So
this
is.
A
This
is
a
very
interesting
just
little
list.
Unfortunately,
I
got
him
to
do
some
more
further
analysis,
but
he
didn't
share
the
sheet
with
me,
but
I
asked
him
to
work
out
some
averages
so
how
far
away
they
were
from
the
average
and-
and
that
was
quite
telling
so
part
of
this-
is
that
the
the
proposal
in
the
discussion
that's
been
had
in
the
discord
which
we
started
up
to
discuss.
A
Some
of
this
possible
implementation
was
around
alex's
work
and
and
analysis,
and
he
came
up
with
a
document
which
I
will
share
with
everyone
in
the
chat.
Hopefully
you
can
see
that
and
how
do
I
get
the
chat
up
just
so
you
can
go
through
it
yourselves
there.
A
So
he
actually
came
up
with
a
bit
of
an
analysis
that,
as
I
said,
he's
been
doing
it
for
for
past
two
funds,
where
he
actually
worked
out
a
way
to
to
rate
a
ca's
participation
and
weight
it
per
proposal
and
then
per
vca
in
relation
to
the
other
body
of
the
of
the
rest
of
the
body
of
the
vca
and
proposed
a
score
for
every
vca.
A
That
could
then
be
used
as
an
analysis
against
the
final
outcome
of
the
vca
process.
A
So
it's
probably
more
detailed
than
I'm
able
to
describe,
but
he's
done
a
pretty
good
job
of
of
outlining
what
he
did
and
why
he
did
it.
But
essentially
it's
it's
assigning
a
score:
either
one
half
or
zero,
taking
the
scores
that
the.
So
if
we
go
back
to
here,
taking
the
scores
for
each
proposal,
doing
a
calculation
on
them
and
then
coming
out
with
an
output
per.
A
So
the
advantage
of
doing
this
in
regards
to
is
that
we
can
actually
put
forward
this
to
the
vcas
in
the
documentation
and
say
this
is
what
we're
going
to
do
as
a
process
afterwards
and
if
you're
outside
of
the
bounds,
then
you
won't
be
rewarded
or
you'll
be
reduced,
rewarded
depending
on
where
we
are.
So.
If
we
go
down
to
the
actual,
he
did
an
actual
analysis
on
those
top
20.
A
Glory
yeah
glory.
I
think
it
was
yeah,
so
they
were
way
way
off
of
anything
so
and,
as
you
can
see,
his
score
has
then
produced
a
result
that
says
they
are
significantly
out
of
step
with
the
rest
of
the
vca
body
and
then,
according
to
this
data,
he's
identified
three
others
that
are
significant,
but
not
nearly
as
much
so.
We
could
set
bounds.
B
B
A
So
I
think
he's
got
the
just
the
the
initials
here
and
and
the
weighted
score
as
he's
calculated.
It
basically.
A
Yeah,
so
that's
the
deviation,
so
basically
we
could
set
bounds.
We
could
set
very
generous
bounds
and
just
say
if
you're
you
know,
if
you're
above
2.5,
then
you're
you're
not
rewarded.
If
you're
above
0.2,
you're
half
rewarded
this
sort
of
thing
I
mean
I
I'm
not
clear
exactly
how
we
like,
where
the
bounds
would
want
to
be,
and
we
could
make
them
very
gentle
to
start
with
navid.
You
got
your
hand
up.
C
Yeah
just
a
couple
of
things
I
think,
on
that
diagram
you're
showing
there
in
terms
of
deviation,
it
acts
as
a
guide,
so
I
think
we
used
it
in
fund
six
and
music
gaining
fund.
Seven
action
was
taken
in
fund
six,
eventually
against
one
person,
and
no
action
was
taken
in
fund
seven,
but
several
people
should
have
fallen
into
the
scope
of
needing
further
analysis.
C
So
the
fact
that
glory-
let's
just
say
that
example,
glory
came-
was
flagged
as
a
as
somebody
who's
highly
deviated
from
from
the
average
of
the
rest
of
the
bcaas,
doesn't
necessarily
mean
he
was.
He
was
his
reward
should
be
slashed
and
he
was
doing
the
wrong
thing
right.
That
should
then
trigger
us
to
go
and
speak
to
him
or
her
to
him
and
understand
the
rationale
that
there
are
people
who
who
there
are
vcas,
who
mark
very
harshly.
C
So
they
will
filter
lots
of
lots
of
lots
of
assessments
out
and
that's
perfectly
reasonable,
as
long
as
they
have
a
justifications
for
for
for
their
for
their
actions.
Unfortunately,
in
fund
seven
glory
plus,
I
think
there
were
another
10
or
15
we
identified
who
we'd.
Ideally
like
to
have
spoken
to,
but
we
never
got
there,
but.
A
So
when
you,
when
you
add
the
deviation
together
with
the
total
reviews
and
how
far
away
they
are
from
from
the
norm
of
what
a
vca
has
done,
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
assign
break
points
that
don't
involve
a
discussion
right
because
for
me,
if
you're
doing
8
000
and
have
deviated
that
much.
C
You
made
at
the
beginning
that
people
are
doing
lots
of
lots
of
lots
of
reviews.
Mine
was
when
I
did.
There
was
a
particular
case
about.
I
had
a
lot
of
time
three
weeks
during
during
christmas
to
do
this
stuff.
Yes,
and
you
know,
I
did
document
it
somewhere
in
one
of
the
documents,
but
I
think
it
disappeared
but-
and
there
are
there
are
because
of
the
way
the
the
the
assessments
were
written
and
assessed.
There
was
there
were
quite
a
few,
let's
say
shortcuts.
C
C
So
it
is
possible
to
review,
to
review
everything
long
as
you
put
the
hours
in,
I
think
I'll,
put
about
200
hours
in
total
over
those
three
weeks
I
had,
but
that,
but
then,
in
terms
of
the
in
terms
of
setting
a
boundary,
I
think
we
said
somewhere
between
if
you're,
if
you're
deviating
25
to
30
percent,
that
that
raises
a
flag
and
then-
and
you
get
spoken
to,
but
the
the
issue
we
have
there.
We
don't
have
a
method
of
speaking
to
people.
C
A
C
I
think
I
I
don't
agree,
there's
one
person
on
this
call,
I'm
not
going
to
name
if
we
did,
that
would
have
fallen
outside
the
bounds,
and
I
know
because
they've
justified
themselves
constantly
on
various
on
discord
on
on
on
on
telegram
and
they
they're
constantly
explaining.
Why
why
they?
Why
they
think
assessments
are
good
or
bad,
they
would
have
thought
if
we've
set
up
hard
and
fast
rule
they
would.
They
would
have
been
canned
from
from
being
a
bca,
okay,
very,
very
careful
not
to
not
to
scott.
E
Yeah,
I'm
just
curious
on
the
how
those
numbers
were
were
came
together,
how
those
numbers
were
put
together,
where
they're
actually
extracted
from
not
that
one,
the
other
list
with
the
people
on
it,
yeah
he's
on
it,
because
I
I
tracked
mine
this.
F
E
A
E
Interesting
all
right
I'll
go
back
and
look
at
the
data.
That
was
that
I
guess
the
final
data
that
was
submitted,
but
those
figures
are
off
for
me.
Personally,
I
don't
know
if
they're
offering
anybody
else,
because
I
did
track
it
because
I
thought
it
was
abnormally
high
for
the
number
filtered
out
for
for
this
particular
funding
round.
So
all
right,
thank
you
very.
G
Much
I
put
the
link
to
the
vc
aggregated
file
in
the
chat
you
can
go
to
the
basically
the
valid
assessments
and
what
does
not
stab
and
excluding
natives
and
with
the
natives
combined
together.
It
should
give
you
roughly
9160.
G
E
I
E
I'm
not
trying
to
argue
with
y'all
about
like
the
importance
of
this
it's
if
y'all
are
going
to
make
a
formula
or
some
sort
of
validation
or
metric
that
vcas
need
to
have
that's.
Why
I'm
asking
where
this
data
came
from,
so
I
can
make
sure
that
I'm
on
the
same
sheet
as
everybody
else
or
as
y'all
or
whoever
it
is
that
put
this
data
together.
A
E
A
And
I
guess,
if
we're
going
back
to
the
to
the
point
of
the
judicial
system,
there
was
mentions
that
you
could
take
the
top
20
bcas
or
something.
But
I
guess
it
depends
how
you
measure
what
a
top
vca
is,
because
if
it's
based
on
number
of
reviews,
that's
not
necessarily
going
to
help
at
this
point.
Is
it
because
then
you're
getting
people
who
are
being
checked
in
the
checking
body?
A
D
Think
that's
a
good,
a
good
sentiment.
I
mean
for
for
the
sense
of
trust
and
transparency.
It
does
seem
like
if
the
people
who,
if
you're
holding
others,
accountable
for
the
same
role
that
you
have
if
we
have
if
we
have
a
clear
criteria,
the
criteria
is
really
the
helper
right,
so
it
could
enable
it
could
enable
people
who
have
not
served
as
the
bca
or
who
understand
the
criteria
and
can
look
at
the
data
to
that.
D
C
K
Then
I
think,
the
formula
that
I
think
alex-
I
guess
he
I
think
I
talked
to
him
before
he
says
he
get
from.
He
got
the
form
of
the
script
on
the
forum.
I
think
I
mean
in
the
discourse
it's
run
in
it's
using
he
using
python,
I
guess
and
he's
I
think
he
scanned
through
on
the
whoever
submit
the
his.
I
think
he
does
a
script
go
into
each
user
and
he
pulled
out
the
data
from
there.
K
A
There
could
also
be
errors
in
his
script
as
well,
so
yeah
that
there
is
a
possibility
that
his
final
characters
have
errors
and
part
of
what
he
wanted
to
do
was
put
this
into
the
community
so
that
they
could
test
the
scripts
and
and
find
any
bugs.
So
if
we
are
going
to
use
this
as
a
as
a
part
of
the
process,
then
I
encourage
those
data
minded
people
to
to
definitely
run
the
scripts
and
and
bug
find
it
and
and
do
this.
A
So
what?
What
about
people's
opinions
about
running?
Something
like
this
to
identify?
But
I
guess,
if
we
don't
have
a
system
to
to
deal
with
identified
people,
then
that's
not
going
to
help
us
at
all
really
and
given
that
my
dream
of
having
an
objective
system
probably
is,
is
not
going
to
work.
Anyone
got
any
input
into
what
we
can
actually
deliver
for
fund
8.
C
Nadia
is
this
something
we
can
ask
the
ask
the
the
catalyst
circle
to
adjudicate
on
or
that's
interesting
or
or
iog,
because
there
are
plenty
of
people
who
will
do
this
analysis
right,
but
we
we
can't
so
alex
we'll
do
a
lot
I'll
I'll
do
a
like,
there's
others
who
will
run
the
analysis,
that's
straightforward,
but
we
don't
have
anywhere
to
take
it.
It's
just
going
to
die
a
death
again
and
we've
got
people
getting
away
with.
E
You're
talking
are
you
talking
about
the
analysis
like
to
determine
whether
or
not
a
vca
should
be
funded?
Or
are
you
talking
about
analysis
of
this
data?
Because
if
and
there's
a
difference,
because
if
you're
going
to
have
somebody,
if
you're
going
to
have
a
group
of
people,
do
an
analysis
of
this
data
to
see
if
somebody's
going
to
be
funded,
then
they
do
not
need
to.
Have
I
mean
honestly,
it
needs
to
be
like
an
outside
organization.
E
In
my
opinion,
or
it
needs
to
be
people
who
are
not
don't
have
any
any
reason
to
manipulate
any
of
the
data,
because
it's
because
the
tiniest
thing
can
happen,
it
can
throw
it
off.
Whatever
have
you
I'm
just
saying
for
transparency
and
auditability
that
it's
best
that
people
who
are
not
participating
at
all
period
or
have
ties
to
any
of
the
proposals
or
anything.
J
I
think
those
could
be
the
ones
that
look
that
are
looked
at
for
doing
the
analysis.
I.
A
I
think
the
scripts
can
be
run
by
whoever
right
as
long
as
the
scripts
are
public.
People
can
rub,
run
them
and
verify
them.
It's
what
happens
once
we
identify
anomalies,
so
it
that's.
That's
the
challenge.
I
think
that,
because
the
script
can
be
written,
adjusted
and
and
edited
by
the
community
to
to
to
achieve
the
goal
that
we're
looking
for
yeah
and
confirmed,
but
it's
it's
how
we
deal
with
like
I.
I
Yeah,
I
think
we
are
going
to
run
this
script
so
anyways
this
one,
if
not
alex
someone
else,
is
going
to
do
something
similar.
The
question
is:
what
is
the
threshold
that
we
are
going
to
accept
for
someone
to
be
an
outlier
as
a
vca?
This
would
be
the
difficult
part
right
and
about
having
a
third
party
or
not
to
do
this.
I
As
long
as
there
is
someone
verifying,
I
think
it
should
be
okay,
and
also,
if
it's
open
for
everyone
to
verify,
we
just
need
to
ensure
that
it's
not
just
a
single
person,
doing
the
analysis
and
coming
up
with
numbers
and
everybody
believes
in
it,
because
this
might
be
dangerous.
I
believe
that
alex's
alex
is
acting,
will
faith,
and
I
believe
most
people
here
is
has
the
same
mind,
but
this
is
an
important
topic
that
scott
brought
up,
and
I
think
we
need
to
think
about
this.
I
L
Yeah,
I
just
had
a
question
on
how
an
individual
would
become
an
outlier,
what
activities
lead
to
it.
I
was
looking
at
some
of
the
numbers,
and
forgive
me
I'm
just
starting
to
learn
this,
so
I'm
trying
to
figure
it
all
out,
so
I
apologize,
but
it
looked
like
at
the
top.
They
were
doing
far
more
reviews
than
humanly
possible.
Is
that
what
is
accurate,
because
I'm
seeing
total
reviews
in
1058
not.
A
Humanly
possible
navid
was
just
saying
that
he's
on
that
list
he's
actually
second
on
the
list
and
did
spend
two
hours
200
hours
to
to
achieve
that.
So
the
idea
would
be
to
look
at
the
number
of
views
and
then
look
at
how
far
off
of
the
norm.
A
K
A
L
A
Yes,
so
if
you,
if
you
go
back
to
here,
that
person
is
this
person
here
they
identified
40
56
to
and
if
you
look
at
the
list,
it's
I
think
I
mean
you'd
have
to
look
at
averages
to
see,
but
no
one
else
is
going
56
yeah,
so
the
flag
hit
56
percent
excellent.
So.
C
H
C
C
C
And
then
there
are
other
other
trends
that
and
behaviors
that
bcaas
will
take
mainly
simply
just
not
not
really
not
where
it's
obvious
that
they
haven't
gone
into
each
assessment
and
read
it
and
read
the
proposal
and
been
through
been
through
the
detail.
So
there's
lots
of.
I
think
I
did
produce
another
document
about
to
share,
but
there's
there's
other
scenarios
where
people
are
obviously
not
reading
the
reading
the
reading
the
assessment
can
I
just
can.
I
share
some
might
be
simple:
yeah.
C
C
This
word,
I
am,
was
going
to
show
that
there's
lots
of
happy
stuff
in
here,
but
take
this
one
as
a
as
another
as
another
example.
So
you've
got
people's
blanket
blanket
marking
x's
anyway,
but
there
was
a.
There
was
a
particular
ca,
who'd
written
who
had
written
nonsense,
nonsense
in
their
assessments.
C
So
I
strongly
agree
and
recall
this:
the
internet
repair
guy,
just
one
of
the
you
know
the
proposal,
clearly
delimits
aloha,
going
to
blind
bloody
body
by
the
block.
I'm
sure
somebody
might
understand
what
you're
talking
about,
but
it
doesn't
make
any
sense
whatsoever.
C
Then,
when
you
start
going
through
four
people
mark
this
this
this
is.
This
is
good
or
excellent.
For
the
five
mark,
this
is
good
or
excellent,
eight
or
nine
mark.
This
is
good
or
excellent,
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
there
was
there-
was
a
count
of
so
this
person,
for
example,
this
this
this
particular
ca
number,
whatever
he
was
528,
did
99
assessments
and
this
vca
marked
all
of
them
as
good
they're,
clearly
not
good.
C
So
as
long
as
these
people
can
then
justify
their
work,
say
I
mark
them
all
as
good
or
90
is
good
and
then
fair
enough,
and
that
that's
that's
the
that's
what
that's
what
I
would
kind
of
work
out
from
those
individual
spreadsheets
that
everyone's
filing
and
then
work
out
where
what
the
outliers
are.
Where
do
we
think
someone's
been
gaming,
a
system
or
not
paying
attention?
C
We
can't
tell
from
this
can't
tell
from
their
individual
files
without
speaking
to
them.
The
only
additional
recommendation
I
made
was
to
make
the
bca
feedback
video
mandatory,
because
at
least
then
you
know
somebody's
gone
into
that
we
didn't
understand,
what's
triggered
them
to
mark
something
excellent,
good
or
filtered
out,
so
then
you
need
to
be
able
to
see
if
somebody's
copying
and
pasting
the
same
the
same
the
same
feedback
over
and
over
again.
It
then
like
plugs
it
up
as
to
then.
A
If
you
brought
that
analysis
forward
and
presented
that
in
a
when
we
approached
a
an
out
of
norm,
vca
that
that
could
be
a
successful
yeah
conversation,
that's
had.
C
So
that
document
I
just
shared
was
was
presented
to
a
smaller
group
after
that,
after
the
after
fund
seven
vca
round,
but
people
were
too
busy
to
do
doing
stuff
and
it
just
never
got
anywhere
okay,
so
some
of
the
feedback
from
there
have
been
built
into
the
process.
So
I
think
overall,
the
process
is
improving.
A
But
but
also
we
need
to
document
that
something's
going
to
happen
so
that
the
vc8,
so
that
we
don't
just
starting
something
when
at
the
end
of
the
process,
we
need
to
say
at
the
end
of
the
process,
there
is
a
discussion
amongst
participating,
vcas,
it's
open
to
everyone
and
we
will
analyze
these
outliers
and
ask
them
to
present
their
cases,
maybe
like
that.
That
could
work
right.
So
we
just
follow
this
model.
That's
those
in
the
room
come
along
and
and
present
their
various
aspects.
C
A
L
Hanzo,
I'm
just
really
excited
about
learning
this
and
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
where
my
process
begins.
L
Is
there
anybody
that
is
doing
this?
That
would
allow
another
person
to
sit
by
them
and
kind
of
go
through
the
process
like.
Maybe
this
is
what
we
do.
This
is
where
we
start.
This
is
a
proposal.
This
is
how
we
like.
Is
there
any
really
hand
holding
through
this?
So
we
can
do
it
in
a
static
way,
so
everybody
stays
the
same.
A
There's
a
few
things
around
there:
one
of
them
is
the
catless
school.
It
depends
where
you're
up
to
in
the
process,
but
they
do
go
over
the
various
aspects
of
this
process,
so
you've
actually
entered.
If
you
haven't
done
the
vca
process,
the
ca
process,
then
you've
actually
entered
a
little
bit
further
advanced
than
than
the
beginning,
but
that's
cool.
It's
very
interesting
to
come
and
attend
and
see.
But
there's
there
is
a
this.
A
M
I
just
had
an
idea
with
what
navi
just
showed
us.
We
could
use
use
it
actually
if
we
put
a
wrong
assessment
on
purpose
and
if
people
flag
them
as
good
or
excellent.
M
A
If
you
want
to
put
through
a
proposal
in
the
process
and
not
tell
anyone
about
it
till
afterwards,
I
personally
would
encourage
that.
I
don't
know
what
other
people
would
say,
but
if
you
want
to
put
that
through
and
then
highlight
it
later
in
the
process
and
say
this
is
part
of
what
I've
checked
out.
A
M
D
Up,
I
do
I'm
just
trying
to
make
a
list
of
the
questions
that
should
be
answered.
Here
are
the
things
we
have
to
address.
This
is
what
I
have
so
far,
maybe
I'll
put
in
the
chat
and
then
we
can
add
to
it
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
like
how
things
affect
each
other.
D
D
How
can
we
cross
check
the
data
reviewers
so
that
we
have
transparency
of
making
sure
that
we're
doing
it
correctly?
What
is
our
criteria
for
judgment?
Do
we
have
a?
How
do
we
form
a
governing
body
to
for
arbitration
and
then
what's
the
process
for
follow-up
with
those
who've
been
identified.
D
Is
that,
like
start
to
finish,
I
think
I
sort
of
just
went
through
yeah?
Maybe
I'll
keep
listening
and
because
there's
so
many,
maybe
if
we
maybe
I'm
just
going
to
suggest
a
process
kind
of
a
thing.
Maybe
we
put
these
questions
down
and
we
go
through
them
and
then
that
helps
us
to
answering
those
questions
helps
us
to
see
where
the
gaps
are
and
keep
ourselves
from
missing
out
on
anything.
So
I'll
just
keep
doing
this
and
then
we
can
add
to
it
fantastic.
B
A
Up,
okay,
dan,
did
you
want
to
say
something
david?
Are
you
no
okay
cool.
N
Dan
yeah,
so
a
couple
of
points.
I
I
heard
the
idea
about
the
escalation
to
the
catalyst
circle
I
think
going
forward
and
for
the
future
iterations.
N
I
think
that
will
be
very
much
and
preferred
avenue
for
us
as
an
io
to
actually
go
and
explore
as
such,
because
I
think
it
needs
to
get
to
that
point
regardless,
and
I
think
that
sooner
or
later
we
will
need
to
find
a
way
how
we
can
keep
this
independent
of
us
and
self-sustaining
in
a
sense
that
we
can
sort
of
create
some
kind
of
the
judiciary
of
what's
happening
within
the
crvca
world,
independent
of
us
as
such.
So
I
like
that
idea
of
the
direction
of
heading
that
way.
N
Maybe
in
these
early
stages
it
could
be
simply
just
like
things
which
happened
in
a
previous
funding
round.
But
again
we
didn't
feel
like
we
had
that
good
authority
to
go
forward
and
also
with
the
business
of
everything
in
between
that
such
cases
will
be
brought
to
the
attention
of
like
the
ca
rep
on
the
catholic
circle.
N
And
then
perhaps
a
special
task
force
could
be
implemented
if
it
impacts
current
fund
so
that
we
can
sort
of
come
together
and
you
know,
identify
the
specifics
of
the
incident
and
then
deliberate
and
work
to
the
resolution,
but
so
that
it
just
like
to
the
navits
point
before
so
that
it
doesn't
happen
that
it
becomes
just
put
under
the
rug.
And
then
we
move
forward-
and
I
think
that's
a
good
opportunity
now
to
put
that
in
place,
which
can
be
very
simple
in
its
nature.
Just
having
that
understanding
like
hey.
N
This
is
what
we're
gonna
do
and
sort
of
like
commit
ourselves
that
that's
kind
of
approach,
we're
gonna,
be
doing
this
funding
round
and
then
see
how
it
works
on
each
rate
based
on
that,
so
that
we
can
bring
like
incremental
values
a
little
by
little
as
we
as
we
tried
it
out.
So
that's
that's
on
that
point,
and
then
another
one
was,
I
made
a
note,
but
where
did
I
put
it
yeah?
N
So
currently
and
again,
we
can
have
a
discussion
about
it,
but
this
is
the
current
wording.
We
have
in
place
that
veteran
community
advisors
in
fund
8
should
be
either
individuals
that
have
been
a
ca
or
a
vca
in
the
two
most
recent
funds,
so
back
to
back
from
the
current
one
or
been
a
vca
in
at
least
three
funds
since
inception
and
participation
will
be
opt
in
based
on
responding
to
an
email
excluded
from
selection,
if
identified
as
a
bot
at
any
point
as
well.
N
So
these
are
parameters
that
probably
are
worth
discussing
so
that
we
can
sort
of
like
introduce
a
higher
threshold
to
actually
becoming
a
vca,
and
especially
in
the
light
of
we've,
had
a
bunch
of
misfits
from
the
ca
work
from
the
previous
round,
which
could
potentially
become
vcas
in
the
current
round,
because
there
would
be
immediately
sort
of
like
approving
them
and
we
haven't
really
identified
all
of
those
individuals
or
accounts
as
well.
N
So
I
would
love
to
hear
your
thoughts
but
to
repeat,
in
a
sense
to
be
a
ca
or
a
vca
in
the
two
most
recent
funds,
or
been
a
vca
in
at
least
three
funds
since
inception.
N
So
if
anyone
has
any
feedback
on
that
or
and
again,
I
will
be
sharing
this
document
no
later
than
friday,
so
that
we
can
also
have
it
a
bit
sort
of
in
front
of
our
eyes,
but
I'm
sort
of
vacuuming
it
from
all
these
different
bits
and
pieces
on
our
end.
But
I
wanted
to
share
that
because
I
thought
I
was
pretty
fundamental
in
terms
of
like
what
it
would
mean
to
actually
become
a
vca
in
this
current
fund.
A
Is
that
a
follow-on
from
last
week's
discussion
about
how
how
we
can
adjust
the
vca
eligibility
plus,
maybe
work
you
guys,
have
been
doing
already?
Yes,
yeah,
okay,
cool,
I
guess
the
question
then
stands
is:
is
there
any
major
objections
to
the
wording
and
and
new
way
of
becoming
a
vca,
the
old
way
being
having
participated
in
a
successfully
participated
as
a
ca,
meaning
being
eligible
for
funding?
O
Well,
the
only
thing
that
I
see
is
that
if,
as
I
understand
it,
daniel
the
requirement
of
having
participated
as
a
ca
successfully
participated
as
a
ca,
two
funds
in
the
two
previous
funds
means
that
probably
in
fund
eight,
you
will
have
no
new
vcas,
because
in
the
previous
fund
you
had
to
be
participated
in
one.
O
A
Think
that's
the
intention
to
kind
of
start
to
slow
down
that
the
the
body
of
vcas
to
make
sure
that
they
are
participating
as
intended.
So
this
is
like
an
attempt
to
say:
okay,
if
you
want
to
be
a
vca,
you
don't
just
like
you,
don't
just
automatically
become
eligible.
You
need
to
participate
in
the
community
a
bit
more.
You
need
to
be
here.
O
I
agree,
I
agree
with
the
spirit
and
I
think
it's
it's
healthy
to
do
it
exactly.
I
mean
to
to
left
to
raise
the
bar
a
bit.
It's
just
that.
I
don't
know
if
it
was,
I'm
not
a
vca,
so
I
I
know
how
high
was
it,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
the
the
body
of
the
vcs
is
not
that
big
and
they
might
be
overloaded.
If
the
funds
the
fund
keeps
growing
and
there's
a
larger
number
of
ovals
and
of
cas,
then
they
might
be
overloaded
not
having
any
uvcas.
A
A
N
N
Then,
knowing
that
the
following
fund,
they
could
get
involved
as
a
vca,
and
I
think
it's
it's
a
time
to
sort
of
make
that
separation
a
bit
more
and
a
bit
clearer,
so
that
we
can
really
get
more
quality
decisions
on
on
the
layer
of
the
vcas,
because
really
at
this
point
it's
it's
still.
The
very
last
last
break
on
any
problems
when
it
comes
to
the
the
review.
A
Of
the
assessments,
I'd
also
add
jose
that
the
rewards
are
doubling
so
being
participating
as
a
vca
is
going
to
be
quite
a
a
valuable
thing
both
for
the
community
and
for
the
vca.
If
it
doesn't
grow,
if
the
body
doesn't
grow
and
the
amount
of
money
does
so
that
that's
the
point
as
well.
Navid.
C
Let's
put
some
stats
around
the
the
vcas
in
the
chat,
so
we
had,
we
had
about
50
or
less
of
just
over
50
return
from
fund
six.
We
had
74
new
vcas,
so
there
were,
there
were
appointed.
There
were
a
lot
of
new
vcas
in
fund
seven,
which
gave
us
the
capacity
to
get
up
to
that
nine
or
ten
reviews
per
per
assessment.
So
I
think
if
we,
the
the
risk
here
is
we
we
won't
get
those
new
vcas.
C
A
E
Y'all
said
y'all
had
kind
of
like
a
quota
y'all
wanted
to
meet
for
onboarding
new
vcas.
I
was
just
curious
what
that
number
was.
J
Did
you
not
wonder
what
you
were
talking
about
with
victor?
No,
that
that
was
the
number
of
reviews
per
assessment.
I
see
I'm
sorry.
I
missed
that.
Okay.
A
Although
there
probably
was
a
number
that
was
put
up
in
fund
8
as
a
suggested
increase,
but
we
can,
we
can
do
that
we
can
adjust
the
system.
I
guess,
if
that's,
if
that's
direction,
I
also
wonder
if,
if
we
do
fall
behind
down
to
give
an
extra
few
days
to
the
vca
process,
I
know
it's.
All
dates
are
always
a
little
bit
fluid.
So
if,
if
the,
if
we
don't
hit
the
required
number,
there
may
be
a
possibility
to
adjust
the
dates.
N
The
only
difference
I
think
for
the
last
time
was
that
we
paused
the
catalyst
all
the
other
activities
which
basically
allowed
us
to
find
a
bandwidth
that
we
could
then
do
at
the
very
short
period
of
time,
post
posted.
So
it's
not
ideal,
it's
not
something
that
we
would
encourage,
but
as
a
means
of
a
last
resort
or
something
like
that.
If
it
comes
down
to
the
wire,
maybe,
but
it's
really
not
something
that
would
allow
us
seamlessly
to
get
to
the
next
stage.
N
And
what
could
that
look
like
one
of
the
other
things
that
I
think
would
go
a
long
way
if
we
found
a
way
how
to
provide
accurate,
real
time-ish
information
about
the
work
that
is
being
done.
So
I
can
say
you
know
like
we.
We
are
going
to
be
looking
at
filtering
and
things
of
that
nature.
If
there
was
something
that
would
be,
we
would
be
able
to
pick
up
as
we're
going
on.
It
would
be
really
helpful,
even
though
right
now,
I
think
the
plan
is
to
do
it
right
before
we
hand
over.
N
Let's
say
the
ca
workload
to
the
vcas,
that
we
would
be
able
to
actually
catch
and
limit
these
things
as
the
cas
are
submitting
their
work.
So
it
would
give
us
a
real
information
in
terms
of
like
how
much
value
is
actually
being
put
in
the
system
and
how
much
is
trash
as
the
cas
are
actually
doing
that
work,
and
they
could
also
bring
our
numbers
more
to
the
reality
and
allow
us
to
maybe
different
levels
about
like.
N
Oh,
maybe
we
need
to
speed
up
or
we
need
to
press
up
or
something
of
that
nature
other
than
us.
We
are
at
the
end
of
the
one
week
and
we
have
like.
Oh,
we
have
10
000
reviews,
and
then
we
find
only
at
that
point
that
half
of
them
are
toxic
right.
So
if
there
was
a
way
to
actually
find
the
toxicity
sooner
and
as
the
ca
work
is
being
done,
that
would
be
ideal.
But
I
know
I'm
asking
a
bit
too
much
technologically
in
terms
of
like
where
we
are
today.
We.
C
Yeah,
so
to
that
point
we
did
have
that
that
so
there's
a
week
between
the
ca
phase
ending
and
the
vca
phase
starting.
So
we
had
this
discussion
last
night,
nadia
about
and
also
last
week
around,
how
do
we,
how
do
we
discard
or
propose
to
discard
those
those
dodgy
dodgy
assessments
so
through
the
similarity
analysis
and
through
through
other
checks,
whatever
they
may
be,
that
they're,
you
know.
N
Yeah,
that's
that's.
The
intention
so
like
moving
from
ca
to
vcas,
like
vcas,
will
already
get
like
that
cleaned
up
version
so
that
it
can
really
focus
them
on
the
on
the
nature
of
what
what's
left
and
what
wasn't
picked
up
by
the
algos.
A
I
guess
that
brings
me
back
to
the
idea
of
what
objective
tools
we
can
put
in
place.
Is
there
some
sort
of
objective
statistical
analysis
that
we
can
undertake
like
if,
if
alex's
tool
can,
is
anyone
interested
in
exploring
how
we
can
adjust?
What
alex
has
proposed
and
and
add
add
to
it,
maybe
to
to
be
able
to
find
an
objective
measure
against
something
like?
A
C
It's
both
that
so
the
the
the
algorithm
that
alex
put
together,
I
need
to
go
through
it
in
detail
and
I'll
see.
If
I
get
a
hold
of
him,
I'm
happy
to
happy
to
try
and
drive
that
forward,
but
I
think,
on
top
of
that
there
are
there
are
there's
always
going
to
be
a
need
for
somebody
to
eyeball.
I
bought
the
data
because
you
won't
find
everything
from
a
from
from
that.
From
that
analysis,
dramatics
analysis
or.
C
C
D
C
J
E
Yeah
excuse
me.
I
was
wondering
if
there's
a
way
to
do
like
real
time
tracking
for
for
vcas.
Aside
from
I
know,
I
think
it's
cardano
catalyst
has
a
or
there's
a
tool
somewhere
for
vcas
used,
but
they
have
to
manually
upload
their
csvs.
Is
there
something
that's
currently
like,
like
a
cots
a
cots
program
or
something
that
can
that
can
monitor
real
time
assessments
as
they're
being
done
by
the
vcas,
and
then
that
could
be
like
an
earth?
You
could
use
that
for
like
an
early
trigger
to
see
if
there
are
pro
issue.
E
Vcas
that
are
working
against
the
system
are
kind
of
outside
of
the
outside
of
the
standard.
A
Yeah
yeah
yeah
at
the
moment
the
vca
tools
designed
to
avoid
data
collection
so
and-
and
we
have
been
noticing
over
the
last
period-
that,
like
the
last
few
funds
that
that
isn't
going
to
keep
working,
so
there
will
be
a
time
that
we
need
to
set
up
a
database
to
collect,
collect
the
information,
but
then
someone's
a
data
holder
right,
which
means
we
have
or
like
it
just
blows
out
the
complications
of
of
how
that's
done
at
the
moment,
the
tools
all
all
in
in
browser.
A
You
generate
the
file,
you
send
the
file
off
idea,
scale
and
iog
already
have
the
data
structures
and
and
privacy
policies
in
place.
So,
yes,
we
would
love
the
vca
tool
to
do
that,
and
that
is
a
plan.
A
But
we
do
it's
a
more
complicated
process
to
put
that
in
place
and
and
part
of
part
of
the
whole
tooling
of
this
is
that
we
don't
want
to
necessarily
be
the
de
facto
vca
tool.
We
are
currently
but
we'd
love
to
have
that
process
open
so
that
other
people
can
generate
their
own
vca
tools
if
they
choose
to
do
so
if
they
find
a
hole
in
the
process
that
they
want
to
fill.
So
if
we
do
that,
then
we
need
to
generate
data
structures
that
can
be
shareable
and
adjustable
and
and
obtainable.
A
A
Essentially,
so,
if
your
voters
support
more
catalyst
related
funding,
we
need
it.
A
That's
that's
my
little
spiel,
so
I
I'm
aware
of
the
time
we
have
gone
over
an
hour,
not
not
that
this
thing
ever
sits
to
an
hour.
Maybe
we
can
look
to
to
some
implementation,
or
at
least
some
some
discussion
points
to
see
where
we
can
go.
I
think
a
fair
one
to
start
with
is
the
fact
that
iog
is
proposing
that
we
do
change
the
vca
eligibility
process.
A
D
I'll
just
say
that
if,
in
a
worst
case
scenario
it
came
to
that,
we
didn't
have
enough,
we
could
either
that's
happened
with
ca's
prior
right,
so
we
could
either
do
a
little
bit
of
a
campaign
for
it
or
we
could
let
people
raise
their
hand
for
to
somehow
say.
I
think
that
I'm,
I
think
that
it's
viable,
that
I
would
do
this.
D
So
I
think
it's
a
fixable
problem
and
the
other
thing
yeah
to
nibby's
point
we
talked
about
when
you
make
a
shift,
that's
based
on
having
better
quality.
Sometimes
you
have
a
little
turnover
period,
but
after
that
it
probably
will
really
help
us
with
onboarding,
because
there'll
be
some
really
good
solid
criteria
for
for,
for
that,
and
people
will
come
into
a
community
that
is
very
much
experienced
and
focused
on
what
they're
doing.
A
I
Yeah
just
just
say
a
last
comment
in
this
one:
we
have
a
community
advisor
challenge
and
I
think,
there's
still
space
for
more
proposals
there,
and
this
would
be
something
that
someone
could
take
charge
of
it
and
with
proposal
to
do
it
in
front
of
9,
10
and
11.
Maybe
so
maybe
we
should
talk
about
this
in
the
case
group.
A
Yeah,
if
someone
did
actually
want
to
get
funded
for
this
sort
of
analysis
and
generating
of
of
scripts
and
things
like
that,
it's
funds
available.
So
if
you're
keen
put
a
proposal
up,
there's
probably
people
here
that
would
give
feedback
to
that.
I
think
alex
threatened
to
put
proposal
in,
but
then
did
he
threaten
yeah.
Then
he
disappeared.
A
So
dan,
I
think
I
think
the
body
here
agrees
with
your
implementation
at
this
point.
So
let's,
let's
go
ahead
with
that.
Let's
see
what's
next
on
this,
what
about
running
a
script
but
bearing
in
mind
that
that
then
has
a
consequence
of
how
we
what
we
do
with
the
script
data?
So
is
there
anyone
majorly
against
running
alex's
script
after
it's
been
correctly
analyzed
by
the
community
and
and
made
sure
that
it
is
actually
calculating
correctly.
A
A
Is
that
probably
the
best
place
to
discuss
this,
and
then
how
would
we
implement
those
break
points?
Given
that
we've
only
got?
I
know,
we've
got
a
few
a
bit
longer
to
to
actually
write
these
documents.
The
vca
document
anyway.
D
A
Think
about
it.
I
think,
if
we're
willing
to
do
this,
then
let's
put
it
straight
into
the
vca
document.
Okay,
we
can
discuss
the
thresholds
there
and
then
we'll
come
to
consensus
on
that
document.
A
Anybody
opposed
to
that
right,
okay,
so
the
next
question
you've
got
here
is
how
do
we
cross-check
the
data
reviewers
and
prevent
bad
actions,
so
that
was
a
new
vids
point
that
we
need.
You
know
scott's
point.
I
think
that
there
was
a
need
for
an
external
group,
but
I
do
you
think
scott,
that
if
the
script
is
open
and
can
be
run
by
anyone
in
it
confirmable
by
anyone,
is
that
good
enough
for
the
script
running
yeah
for
the
script.
E
A
Okay,
then,
we've
got
the
idea
that
once
we've
run
these
scripts
in
the
set
thresholds.
Who
who
do
we
take
for
adjudication?
Who,
who
who
will
decide?
A
Well,
we
can
we
can
identify
who
we
would
like
to
talk
to
as
a
body
or
as
a
community,
and
we
can
communicate
with
them
or
at
least
iog
can
directly
email
them
and
ask
them
to
reach
out
and
attend
or
present
their
argument
for
funding.
But
who
would
we
send
that
to.
E
Scott
yeah,
that's
that
was
more
or
less
what
I
was
getting
at.
I
wasn't
really
getting
at
the
script
as
far
as
being
outside
body.
I
was
getting
at
that
adjudication
portion
outside
body
because
you
can
have
people
have
conflicting
personalities
or
you
have
somebody
who
rubs
somebody
the
wrong
way
or
whatever,
but
it's
just
it
can
it
can
be
messy
and
it
can
be
unfair
and
it
it
can
be
damaging.
Also,
if
it's
not,
if
it's
not
an
unbiased
decision,
like
truly
unbiased
decision
decision.
A
So
I
believe
there
was
some
idea
that
it
could
be
taken
to
the
catless
circle.
Have
you
got
anything
to
say
about
that?
Nadia
you've
got
thoughts.
That
would
you
do
you
think
it's
in
within
scope?
It
probably
isn't,
but
could
you
make
it
within
scope
that
we'd
bring
a
number
of
vcas
who
have
been
identified
as
potential
bad
actors
or
potentially
outside
and
would
could
we
create
a
using
the
ca
circle
body
that
they
could
hear
the
here?
The
the
well
the
case?
D
I
think
it's
just,
I
think
it's
a
good
organized
external
body.
I
think
that
most
people
in
that
group
have
been
a
ca
or
a
bca,
so
there's
experience
there
and
at
least
experienced
with
the
catalyst
process.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
a
new
concept
and
if
there's
criteria-
and
we
just
have
to
say
if
then
then
it
should
suit
and
certainly
there's
other
options.
But
I
think
that's
a
good
one
to
explore.
A
Okay,
the
other
option
is
that
we
we
hold
a
similar
event
like
we're
doing
today,
where
we
just
call
on
the
vca
community
to
attend
a
similar
event
like
now,
and
we
ask
the
vcas
that
are
in
question
to
also
attend
and
we
ask
them
to
present
their
cases
to
to
the
body,
that's
participating
so
that
that
would
be
another
suggestion.
So
you've
got
the
ca
circle.
A
Suggestion
and
you've
got
a
call
to
action
of
the
vcas
that
want
to
participate,
and
then
that
gives
the
opportunity
for
people
like
navid
who
have
generated
analysis
to
bring
that
analysis
to
the
to
the
discussion,
which
we
could
also
bring
to
the
circle
discussion
as
well,
but
I
believe,
there's
two
options
there
that
can
be
done.
One
one
has
a
an
existing
body,
that's
probably
outside
of
their
scope,
but
could
be
made
inside
this
scope,
and
one
is
just
presenting
to
the
community.
Has
anyone
got
any
comments,
one
way
or
the
other.
E
Yeah,
I
have
a
suggestion
on
that.
If
you
want
an
adjudication
body,
how
about
how
about
kind
of
using
the
blockchain
and
randomly
searching
for
wallets
and
creating
a
panel
in
that
manner,
I
don't
know
how
feasible
that
is,
but.
E
A
I
think
it's
an
interesting
option
that
there's
the
idea
of
the
roped
in
concept,
but
then
those
ada
holders
aren't
necessarily
signed
up
to
do
such
a
thing,
but
maybe
maybe
let's
give
that.
Can
you
take
that
to
the
circle
nadia
that
says
that
we
need
some
sort
of
way
of
adjudicating
and
from
what
scott
just
said?
Maybe
the
stake
pool
operators
could
do
such
a
thing
like
that
they're
a
body
another
also
body
that
exists.
A
That
has
a
direct
interest
so
and
that
is
kind
of
more
separated
from
the
vca
and
ca
process,
but
maybe
may
not
understand
it,
but
if
they
put
their
hand
up
to
participate
in
such
a
thing,
so
maybe
feed
that
into
the
circle
and
and
get
them
to
feed
that
to
the
stake
pool
operators.
Maybe
is
the
discussion
point.
Okay,.
A
But
we
do
have
the
problem
that,
if
we're
running
this
for
fund
8,
we
don't
have
a
direct
solution
at
this
point.
So
let's
imagine
that
we're
going
to
implement
something
which
is
what
this
discussion
is.
It's
actually
to
come
up
with
an
outcome.
A
I
will
put
forward
that
the
simplest
and
easiest
solution
that
doesn't
involve
any
further
discussion
is
to
say
that
we
call
a
vca
meeting
like
this
and
get
ask
participating
vcas
and
the
vca
that's
in
question
to
attend
a
meeting
such
as
this,
and
that
that
could
be
the
fund
date
solution
and
we
can
look
to
expand
that
with
circle
discussion
for
fun,
nine
and
work
on
a
better
judicial
system,
but
for
a
iterif
iterative
process.
A
Could
we
run
this
process
like
this?
Anyone
in
major
objection
to
such
a
thing
or
has
comments.
E
So
this
adjudication
body
is
this
going
to
be
an
incentivized
position,
and
I
know
we're
talking
about
now,
but
is
that
the
same
thing
for
the
vcas?
If
they,
if
there's
a
meeting
and
a
decision
is,
is
you
know
required
after
the
meeting
you're
still
calling
upon
somebody
to
perform
an
action?
So
I'm
just
asking
if
there's
going
to
be
any
incentive
for
those
participants.
A
Not
for
this
round
before
it
would
be
similar
to
the
circle,
one
that
is
a
voluntary,
but
if
it
forms
then
then
we
can
look
for
funding.
But
while
you
were
speaking,
I
did
just
come
up
with
a
problem.
A
If
you're
getting
the
body,
that's
getting
funded,
to
judge
on
an
individual,
that's
getting
funded,
there's
a
there's
a
benefit
to
getting
them
unfunded
right.
So
if
you're
a
vca
and
you're
up
for
a
few
thousand
ada
and
we're
the
body
judging
you
and
we're
also
up
for
that
ada.
If
we
kick
you
out,
we
can
get
benefit
from
that.
I
don't
believe
that
anyone
will
be
doing
that,
but
that
is
a
an
identified
problem
that,
from
speaking
you
just
didn't
identify
yeah.
C
A
N
A
N
Yeah
I
was
just
before
we
drop
off.
I
just
wanted
to
to
make
sure
you
guys
have
that
heads
up
in
case
it
got
lost
in
translation
before
so
before
friday.
I'm
looking
to
share
a
document
which
essentially
is
the
first
mvp
for
the
vca
incentives
requirements
and
just
to
let
you
know
it
definitely
counts
with
slashing
rewards
if
it
will
be
deviating
from
a
certain
like
percentage
of
like
agreement
between
the
vca
body
as
a
whole.
N
So
I'll
be
looking
to
hear
then
some
feedback
based
on
that,
so
that
we
can
look
at
certain
parameters
and
if
they
make
sense,
so
that
will
be
already
something
in
game
for
fund
8
as
such.
So
so
there
will.
So
if
there
will
be
poor
work
on
the
vca
part,
which
deviates
way
too
much
in
each
direction
and
right
now
I
think
it's
it's
sort
of
like
different
steps.
N
So
it's
not
just
like
before
or
after,
but
it's
sort
of
tiered
and
let's
have
a
look
once
I'm
able
to
share
that
in
the
next
two
days.
What
the
what
the
feedback
on
that
is,
and
if
that's
the
also
something
that
we
can
move
forward
with,
but.
N
So
right
now
it's
based
on
statistics,
but
you
know
that's
the
mvp.
That
doesn't
mean
that
it
doesn't
have
to
that.
It
won't
evolve
in
the
different
directions
as
such,
okay
cool.
But
I
will
share
that
for
transparency
in
the
next
two
days.
I
still
just
need
to
tie
up
a
few
things
and
then
again,
vca's
are
still
a
bit
ways
away.
N
So,
if
need
be,
you
know
we
can
repeat-
and
after
town
hall
like
this
next
week,
perhaps
or
or
if,
if
that
will
be
a
requirement
but
I'll
share
the
document-
and
you
guys
can
probably
drop
some
comments
or
initial
feedback
on
that,
but
and
also
pairing
with
that,
slashing
the
rewards.
N
We're
gonna
be
introducing
the
reputation
model
so
sort
of
like
a
points
that
will
be
building
up
based
on
how
well
the
vca
does
their
job
as
such.
So
it
will
be
very
much
mvp
version
as
well
and.
K
Yeah
just
add
honda.
First,
I
think
thanks
naveen
for
sharing
the
document,
and
I
used
your
document
in
tower.
They
train
most
of
the
grouping,
especially
in
vietnam
at
the
moment
for
their
ca
as
well
as
vca.
So
your
document,
I
have
very,
very
good
feedback
on
that
by
the
analysis,
as
well
as
the
example
that
you
provide
there,
how
the
ca,
how
the
vca
look
and
how
you
pull
them
out.
So
I
have
very
high.
What
is
that
high
regard
from
my
community
in
india?
K
I
mean
it's
eastern
town,
so
that's
first
and
that's
appreciated
for
that.
So
I
use
that
document
to
train
them
now
to
see
that
is,
if
you
do
associate
the
v
say
we
see
that,
of
course,
so
there
is
a
bad
and
good
practice,
so
they
get
a
very
good.
You
know
feedback
on
on
your
document,
so
I
really
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
A
F
Oh
yeah
just
jumped
in
the
room,
but
I
heard
them
talking
about
reputation
and
for
the
vcas,
and
I
was
curious
if
there's
a
mechanism
yet
I
know
he
just
said:
they're
building
a
reputation
model,
and
maybe
you
could
add
like
to
add
to
your
reputation.
F
Maybe
you
could
deposit
some
like
have
a
deposit
like
you
would,
if
you're
renting
a
house
to
add
to
your
reputation,
you
just
put
more
on
the
line
and
then,
if
it
comes
to
that
point,
I
don't
know
how
much
issues
need
to
increase
what
people
have
at
stake
in
case
they
screw
up.
But
of
course
we
do
need
to
make
sure
that
there's
less
people
that
have
a
perverse
incentive
in
the
system.
So
more
the
more
money
you
have.
Maybe
you
have
to
add
some
to
be
a
vca
in
the
future.
F
Maybe
you
have
to
add
some
money
or
just
take
smaller
projects
until
you
have
enough
reputation
from
taking
those
projects
and
doing
well,
your
reputation
feeds
you
instead
of
money,
but
one
or
the.
A
A
Good
something
to
think
about
maybe
as
a
future
iteration
dan
scott's
asking,
will
the
reputation
model
be
shared
prior
to
launch.
N
Yeah,
if,
if
I
manage
to
pull
everything
together,
I
plan
to
have
the
skeleton
outline
of
the
mvp
and
the
the
definitions
on
friday.
N
If
that
goes
in,
hopefully
we
can
make
a
good
turnaround
on
the
edits,
and
so
so,
like
the
actual
basis
of
what
that
would
look
like
should
be
available
this
week,
and
then
we
can
give
it
some
time
to
settle
in,
but
absolutely
before
the
vcas
would
actually
touch
any
work.
That
would
be
clearly
so
that
you
know
everybody
can
understand
the
algo
like
what
it
means
to
actually
do
a
good
vca
work
as
such.
So.
N
J
J
A
Fantastic,
so
I
think
we've
basically
covered
off
the
parts
that
nadia
first
identified.
Naveed.
Did
you
want
to
comment
on
those?
It
was
what.
C
One
additional
tiny
adjustment
I
think
we
could
make
which,
which
should
add
quite
a
lot
of
value.
So
currently
the
vca
feedback
field,
both
in
the
tool
and
the
spreadsheet,
is,
is
optional.
C
Simply
making
that
mandatory
for
vcas
will
do
a
number
of
things,
one.
It
will
slow
down
the
vca
work,
so
these
people,
who
are
doing
eight
or
nine
thousand
and
just
and
just
marking
the
next
top
to
bottom
on
a
spreadsheet,
won't
be
able
to
it'll
make
people
think
it
will
also
give
valuable
feedback
to
to
case.
C
It
will
also
help
us
understand
why
why
a
bca
trip?
Why?
What
triggered
a
vca
to
mark
something,
excellent,
good
or
or
or
filtered
out?
And
it
also
just
helps
with
that
that
post
that
post
analysis
and
when
we're
doing
that
data
analysis
and
and
challenge
you
don't
necessarily
have
to
you.
You've
already
got
it
clear
as
to
what
was
what
was
going
on
in
their
head.
C
A
A
A
E
Up
there
yeah,
I
was
gonna
like
I
I
like
what
navita
is
saying,
because
I
was
doing
I
didn't.
I
didn't
end
up
submitting
it
with
the
remarks
on
it,
but
I
would
put
one
line
or
like
two
or
three
words
on
there
like
list.
If
somebody
was
just
listening.
Yes,
this
has
a
budget.
E
This
has
you
know
the
random,
the
varying
topics
that
that
need
to
be
looked
at,
so
I
mean
I
agree,
and
it
didn't
really
add
that
much
that
much
time
to
it
and
for
excellent,
you
know
you're
only
talking
about
really
the
filtered
out
ones.
I
don't
know
if
naveed's
actually
talking
about
like
the
good
ones,
also
but
yeah,
that.
A
C
I
A
N
When
we
apply
this
deviation
algorithm
and
see
how
that
works,
and
perhaps
if
that
is
not
sufficient
and
we
still
see
a
big
gap
in
terms
of
like
the
quality,
then
we
could
sort
of
like
tighten
the
lever
forward
as
well.
Generally,
I'm
more
in
favor
of
like
slowly
applying
the
pressure
to
see
where
we
need
to
land
that.
But
it's
just
like
an
encounter
argument.
That
comes
to
my
mind
like.
Why
not
to
do
it
now
without
saying
that
we
wouldn't
do
it
in
the
future
sort
of
thing.
C
A
I
wonder
if
we
add
it
for
filtered
out
like,
like
people
are
saying
that
it's
much
it's
got
a
a
lot
of
value
for
the
filtered
out
ones
and
lesser
value,
but
still
valuable
for
good
and
excellent,
so
yeah,
the
other
thing
is
I'd,
say
we.
If
we
are
going
to
do
that,
I'd
want
to
limit
it
to
the
to
the
140
characters
so
that
we
don't.
We
don't
expect
essays
written
in
there.
Maybe
lucio.
P
Yeah,
so
I'm
just
want
to
say
that
I
totally
agree
that
it
can
be.
You
can
add,
really
a
lot
of
value
to
put
this
feedback
field
mandatory,
but
I'm
afraid
that
it
will
really
slow
down
the
the
world
process,
and
I
don't
know
at
the
moment
it
is
based
on
the
big
numbers
in
some
way.
P
So
it
is
better
if
we
have
a
lot
of
reviews
for
each
assessment
and
I'm
just
afraid
that
if
we
slow
it
too
much
down
in
the
end,
even
for
when
you,
when
you
make
some
statistics
of
a
specific
assessment-
and
you
only
have
five
reviews
because
but
they
are
in-depth
reviews-
I
don't
know
if
it
is
totally
makes
sense
or
I
don't
know
it
could
be
counterproductive
in
some
way.
P
So
I
would
say
maybe
the
the
the
experiment
could
be
to
advise
people
to
to
to
to
give
feedbacks
for
a
specific
type
of
condition
and
with
specific
guidelines
on
now
to
give
a
proper
feedback
without
losing
too
much
time.
A
C
C
A
Rex,
you've
still
got
your
hand
up.
Is
that
a
follow-up
question
or.
A
Okay,
all
right,
so
where
are
we
up
to
now
we're
going
to
keep
drafting
the
vca
documents?
If
you
would
like
to
participate
in
them,
they
are
pinned
in
the
discord
chat.
I
will
share
that.
A
Both
the
ca
and
the
vca
discussion
is
currently
being
held
in
the
vca
chat,
so
if
you're
not
currently
involved
there
and
would
like
to
be,
please
join
us
I'll
share
the
link
there.
Whoops.
A
That's
to
the
fun
day,
improvements
and
under
there
you'll
find
two
threads.
They
can
be
hidden
if
people
don't
talk
in
them
for
three
days
but
and
in
the
the
pinned
documents
to
the
two
guidelines.
Are
there
john?
You
got
your
hand
up.
M
Hopefully,
yeah
because
there
is
a
big
problem
currently
with
the
examples
of
the
assessments,
they
really
need
to
be
fixed
because
they're
really
really
bad.
So
we
need
to
change
at
least
this
before
it's
finalized,
and
also.
I
just
noticed
that
the
cr
process
discussion
thread
just
disappeared
from
the
yeah.
It's
hidden,
it's
a
thread.
If
you
click
on
the.
A
Yeah
it
at
the
top
there's
a
hash.
It's
a
terrible
interface
up,
the
top
when
you
click
on
funday
improvements,
there's
a
hash.
D
A
And
archived
yeah,
it's
absolutely
horrible,
but
we
we
need,
you
need
to
pay
to
unlock
them
and
stuff.
So
was
there
anything
else,
john.
A
M
If
people
could
comment
just
if
they
agree
or
not,
because
when
I've
met
a
lots
of
edits,
but
I
don't
know
if,
if
people
like
them
or
not
so.
A
I'm
at
the
moment
proofreading
it
and
adding,
and
then
we
can
add,
send
it
over
to
dan
to
have
a
look
as
well.
Have
you
got
that
document
then
yeah,
you
shared
it
with
me.
I
think.
K
Yeah
this
is
my
last
comment,
then,
really
for
the
mandatory
feedback
for
vca.
I
think
we
should
put.
I
know
we
put
a
recommendation,
strongly
recommendation.
I
must
recommend
it
to
do
so.
However,
we
can
put
a
couple
examples
that,
where
the
vca
can
see
is
not
so
much
burden,
don't
have
to
write
a
full
sentence.
For
example,
this
is
an
example
of
the
english
bad
or
don't
use
severely.
You
know
I
mean
you
know,
damage
someone
else
by
the
language,
but
rather
simple,
and
then
at
least
the
vca.
K
Whatever
the
background
they
are,
they
can
say.
Okay,
this
is
is
not
not
nothing
to
do
with
the
proposal,
for
example,
so
give
them
some
indication
that
where
they
should
write
and
how
they
should
try,
I
mean
it's.
Not
it's
not
it's
not
a
it's,
not
something
that
you
can
abuse
someone.
Oh,
this
is
rubbish.
Of
course,
you're
not
gonna,
say
that,
but
at
least
give
them
a
small
guidelines.
K
Tiny
example,
for
example,
like
a
couple
paragraphs
I
you
should
do
this-
you
should
do
that
so
here
the
exam
laser
so
give
the
vca
my
new
ci
or
whatever.
I
see
I
can,
you
know,
provide
call
constructive
a
little
bit,
but
not
too
long,
because
it's
too
long,
we
waste
them
a
lot
of
time,
because,
as
I
can,
as
you
can
see,
that
is
really
little
money
in
there
is
common.
So
if
they
write
too
much,
we
waste
a
lot
of
time.
So
that's
my
last
feedback.
Thank
you.
A
E
This
will
be
my
last
comment
for
today
I
got
I
really
have
to
go.
I
got
another
meeting
here
soon,
sorry
about
the
noise.
In
the
background,
there
is
a
discord
that
has
been
created
as
part
of
nadia's
plan
to
kind
of
consolidate
information,
and
she
also
has
a
form
that
she'll
share
later
on,
but
anyway
I
would
I
mean
I
would
encourage
everybody
to
it's
set
up,
specifically
specifically
for
ca
and
vca
conversations.
E
It's
also
to
keep
people
informed
and
basically,
I'm
inviting
y'all
to
to
come
and
join
it
and
be
part
of
it.
Carry
on
your
conversations
there
it's
a
set
up
to
where
it's,
hopefully,
it's
super
simple,
to
use
easy
to
navigate,
and
it's
a
great
way
to
put
comments
like.
If
you
have
particular
issues
you
can,
you
can
put
those
issues
in
a
thread
and
comment
on
that
thread,
etc.
E
So,
there's
a
lot
more
organization
that
discord
offers
for
those
who
have
not
used
it
and
not
trying
to
steal
anybody
else's
patrons
to
their
discord
servers,
but
this
is
built
specifically
for
this
ca,
rep
and
her
her
objectives
for
this
for
this
circle.
So,
thank
you
very
much.
A
Thanks
scott
nadia,
will
you
share
that
somewhere,
maybe
in
the
chat
and
yeah.
D
I'm
working
on
here,
it's
more
it's
just
a
place
so
that
we
can
break
these
things
out
into
scott,
really
has
done
all
the
work
of
building
this.
I'm
looking
for
the
link
here
that
I
have
on
my
chat
and
it'll
just
allow
us
to
have
conversations
based
based
on
the
conversations
we've
been
having
about
sub-circles
and
the
conversations
we've
been
having
about
project
management.
D
It'll,
give
us
a
space
where
we
can
have
a
little
bit
of
a
hub
for
these
different
conversations,
so
they're
not
all
sort
of
chunked
into
one
place
and
eventually,
as
a
as
a
github,
starts
to
form
or
as
our
project
management
stuff
starts
to
form.
It'll
allow
us
to
have
all
of
that
interconnected.
D
C
It
was
just
a
question
on
the
on
the
ca
to
the
ca
guy.
There
was
another
governance
gap
in
this.
I
just
wanted
a
question
for
for
danny.
So
once
these
similarity
assessment
or
look
looking
for
those
outlier
assessments,
all
those
rubbish
assessments,
it's
done.
What's
what
is
their
proposed
process
to
review
those
or
is
iog
just
can
take
a
call
on
those,
or
is
that
something
that's
gonna?
N
But
as
far
as
the
dispute
resolution
is
very
naive.
At
this
point,
then
it's
just.
It
was
in
the
sense
that
I
from
what
I'm
just
reading
here,
we
would
be
asking
the
veteran
community
advisors
to
investigate
and
escalate
any
suspected
cases
of
collusion
and,
if
there's
a
theme
of
collusion
also,
this
should
be
escalated
like
through
the
ideas
of
what
we
discussed
earlier.
The
circle
rep
or
something
along
those
lines,
but
there's
nothing
firm
in
hand,
but
it
would.
N
N
Yeah,
the
the
idea
is
definitely
to
arrive
at
some
sort
of
decision
so
that
it
no
longer
are
in
the
impasse
just
because,
right
now
the
decks
are
cleared
a
bit
and
there's
more
bandwidth
to
actually
pay
attention
to
it,
and
now
we
sort
of
have
certain
certain
well.
The
hope
is
that
the
things
will
fall
within
those.
The
data
sets
more
comfortably,
but
if
not,
then
we
can
have
a
look
at
it
again,
we're
still
all
in
it
together.
N
At
this
point,
it's
not
the
wild
west,
just
yet
so
yeah
that
when
the
time
comes
we're
gonna
have
I
have
to
look
at
it,
and
you
know
my
commitment
is
that
we're
gonna
be
involved
in
it,
but
I
want
it
to
be
a
mutual
collaborative
decision
if
it
ever
comes
to
it,
based
on
the
information
that
will
be
available.
N
But
you
know
we
need
to
keep
the
we
need
to
start
making
the
vca
selection
more
accountable
at
the
end
of
the
day,
so
that
there
is
a
meaning
behind
being
better
ncaa.
A
Okay,
I
think
that's
plenty
done
today.
I'd
encourage
everyone
to
continue
participating
in
the
discord
to
finish
writing
those
documents.
I
think
we're
trying
to
get
it
done
for
you
by
sometime
tomorrow,
dan.
N
And
you
know
like
when
you
think
of
it-
I
I
mean
if
you
can
get
it
at
tomorrow.
The
big
great
do
think
that
these
guidelines
are
especially
important.
Once
people
start
doing
the
work
right,
so
they
actually
understand
on
a
day
one.
So
there
is
some
leeway
in
terms
of
like
when
we
need
to
finalize
it
as
such.
I
did
link
it
already
to
this
living
document.
So
people
see
there's
a
few.
N
Things
are
being
worked
on,
so
it
will
not
come
out
of
the
blue
as
such,
so
we
can
still
take
like
the
net.
You
know
until
friday,
let's
say
to
to
fine-tune
any
details
as
such,
just
not
to
put
like
extra
extra
pressure
on
everything
the
critical
thing
it
will
be
for
it
to
be
ready
by
the
time
things
come
up.
You
know
when,
when
the
registrant,
the
actual
work
begins
with
that.
N
Having
said
that,
if
there
are
any
volunteers
for
next
week's
town
hall
for
the
main
segment
to
introduce
much
of
these
things,
as
you
know
what
what
what
it
is
what's
happening
for,
like
everybody
in
the
town
hall,
I
think
that
would
be
really
useful,
because
given
the
past
round
and
like
experiences
with
the
ca
and
work
and
what
that
actually
did
in
the
wider
community,
I
think
it'd
be
great
opportunity
to
sort
of
like
set
the
record
straight.
N
That,
like
cas
and
vcs,
are
working
really
hard
on,
like
fixing
these
problems
and
opportunities
for
for
further
iteration
and
such
so.
If
anyone
wants
to
take
like
five
to
ten
minutes
slot
next
week
during
the
town
hall,
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
give
that
time
to
somebody.
So
give
it
a
thought.
Just
add
some
alrighty.
A
A
So
I
encourage
you
to
also
help
with
that
if
anyone's
around
that
would
like
to
participate,
and
particularly
maybe
until
alex
shows
back
up,
if,
if
you
would
like
to
look
at
the
the
how
we
might
implement
the
well,
I
guess
we're
gonna
see
iog's
version
of
of
you
know
what
they're
working
on
right
before
we
but
yeah
it'd
be
good
to
match
those
together
somehow
and
see
how
we
can
do
that
phil.
Could
you
send
me
a
link
to
that.
C
A
Yeah,
I'm
not
sure
where,
where
the,
where
he
shared
the
other
bit
was
I'll
I'll.
Just
are
you
in
the
discord
yeah,
you
are,
aren't
you
yeah
I'll,
just
find
it
and
ping
it
in
the
discord.
I
think.
I
D
I
throw
in
a
couple
things
rapid
fire,
sure,
okay,
I'm
just
gonna
put
this
document
in
here.
This
is
the
meeting
doc
for
today
and
I
wanted
to.
I
knew
that
we're
gonna
get
in
a
long
chat
here.
So
this
is
just
a
couple
updates
the
community
that
what
scott's
working
on
with
the
communications
group
that
group's
actually
forming
a
bunch
of
people
in
there
and
it's
not
just
communication,
but
it's
communication
hub
how
that
ties
to
project
management
github.
How
do
we
build
governance
framework
within
that
github?
D
How
do
we
make
sure
that
all
that
ties
together
so
that
we
can
work
effectively
together
and
archive
things
and
have
chronicles
of
what
we're
doing
so?
That
group
is
meeting
again
tomorrow,
we're
still
picking
the
meeting
time.
So
if
anyone
wants
to
lend
their
two
cents
to
that,
that
would
be
fantastic
and
the
link
to
do
that
is
in
there.
The
education
onboarding
group
met
this
week
as
well.
D
They
were
the
recording
is
in
there
and
we
got
in
to
talk
about
the
the
guidebook
updates,
but
also
the
potential
for
things
moving
forward.
Do
we
want
to
do?
How
do
we
want
to
help
people
continue,
making
quality
assessments
and
sort
of
thinking
about
maybe
a
growth
process
like
a
development
process
for
people
who
have
become
cas
to
improve
those
good
and
great
a
good
and
excellent
assessments?
D
So
that's
in
there
you
can
watch
it
and
allison
is
spearheading
that
and
then
a
third
thing
is
a
a
group
within
the
ca
telegram
group
has
started
talking
about
we're
thinking
about
doing
a
proposal
for
a
ca,
vca
treasury,
so
that
we
would
have
rapid
funding
across
this
term,
since
we
have
this
this
opportunity
so
that
I
just
want
to
give
a
heads
up
that
that
is
being
communicated.
If
anyone
wants
to
participate
in
that
it'll
be
fantastic
right
now
contributing
to
it,
but
not
necessarily
co-proposing.
D
It
are
simon,
jeremy
tommy.
I
think
that's
it
and
me
so
we're
looking
to
get
that
in
there.
So
we
can
have
that
for
the
future,
and
maybe
that
could
solve
some
of
these
things
that
we've
been
talking
about.
So
we'd
have
some
extra
funding.
So
I
want
to
give
everyone
a
heads
up
that
that's
happening
and
then
just
have
this
link
here.
You
can
take
a
look
at
afterwards
so
that
we
can
keep
those
things
moving.
That's
it.
D
We
should
we
should
work
on
them
and-
and
certainly
you
know,
an
opportunity
for
us
to
as
a
group
be
able
to
continuously
continuously
be
able
to
move
initiatives
forward
and
not
be
sort
of
trapped
for
that.
So
yeah.
A
A
I
guess
we
may
need
to
have
a
follow-up,
maybe
a
partial
meeting
next
next
week,
but
there's
I'm
sure,
there's
ca
issues
that
need
addressing
as
well.
So
we
might
follow
up
some
of
these
parts
next
week,
but
keep
it
briefer
and
focus
on
ca
again.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Everyone
have
a
good
rest
of
the
day
or
good
night
if
you're
at
that
point
in
time,
I
think
we
can
close
the
the
recording
thank.