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A
No
fingers
pointed
there
here
comes,
so
here
comes
the
today's
little
meeting
agenda
here
and
thanks
everyone
for
being
here,
there's
so
much
happening.
It's
such
a
fantastic
leading
up
to
our
our
real
initiative
time.
So
a
lot
to
talk
about,
and
I
just
want
to
express
a
tremendous
gratitude
to
everyone
who's
in
here.
A
It's
been
a
really
great
couple
weeks
and
I
personally
appreciate
how
many
of
you
have
given
me
time
to
just
get
a
sense
of
impressions
and
to
find
some
good
good
footholds
for
for
some
of
the
solutions
to
the
things
that
we've
been
dealing
with,
and
so
hopefully
today's
meeting
we'll
try
this
out
we're
going
to
try
to
make
it
very
much
we'll
go
through
everyone's
each
of
the
each
of
the
listed
we're
calling
sort
of
loosely
calling
champions
of
these
different
initiatives,
we'll
go
through
everyone's
input.
A
A
So
I'm
going
to
ask
that
we
hold
our
questions
till
we
get
to
the
end
as
best
that
we
can
and
then
we'll
have
the
second
half
of
the
meeting
open
for
discussion.
We're
going
to
try
to
get
to
45
minutes
by
knowing
us
and
knowing
catalyst
in
general.
Probably
will
have
more
to
talk
about
than
that.
So
if
you've
come
here
and
you
have
a
hard
stop,
then
don't
worry
we'll
keep
the
recording
going.
A
We'll
talk
as
long
as
we
need
to
and
if
you
want
to
put
things
in
chat
to
be
chronicled,
that'll
be
fine
and
we
can-
and
we
can
make
sure
that
adds
to
the
conversation
later
on.
If
you
need
to
come
and
go,
that's
good
and
we'll
appreciate
that
you
that
you
have
been
here
for
this
time
so
as
a
beginning,
I'll
just
start
us
off
by
saying
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
to
consider-
that
is
a
new
thing
this
week.
A
That,
as
you
know,
happens
with
us,
often
is
that,
with
the
shift
of
the
with
the
shift
of
the
deadline
for
the
proposals,
there's
also
we're
being
asked
to
think
about
whether
or
not
we
can
have
an
earlier
registration
opening
for
cas
in
this
term
and
what
that
might
look
like.
So
that
is
affected
to
a
certain
extent
that
affects
whether
or
not
we
get
some
of
the
onboarding
additions
and
changes
in
that
we've
been
talking
about.
It
certainly
would
push
the
the
deadline
up.
A
So
this
is
something
for
us
to
talk
about,
and
that
will
make
some
space
in
the
in
the
final
discussion
for,
but
maybe
it's
helpful
to
just
remind
everyone
that
a
lot
of
work
was
done
over
the
past
fund.
A
lot
of
conversations
a
lot
of
reviewing
of
data,
a
tremendous
amount
of
output
from
this
community,
and
we
do
have
we
had.
We
have
a
little
bit
of
a
refining
of
what
it
is
that
we
can
work
on
as
a
community.
A
D
C
I
Just
just
a
quick,
quick
shout
out
anyone
who's
interested
in
the
great
migration
challenge,
category
jump
into
the
open
room.
Please,
and
thank
you.
A
Everybody
got
everything
all
their
parts.
We
were
saying
that
you
were
saying
that
last
week
that
it's
like
star
trek
when
you
beat
him
into
a
different
place-
hopefully,
hopefully
we
all
beamed
back
and
that
that
kept
recording
will
be
like
a
nice.
A
Well
done
so,
who
do
we,
who
do
we
have
here,
is
danny
in
here
danny?
Do
you
make
it
back
with
us.
A
All
right
maybe
he's
working
on
something
administratively,
so
this
is
a
discussion
for
us
and
one
of
the
there
he
is
hi
danny.
So
one
of
the
things
that
was
a
that
was
a
conversation
here
is:
what
will
it
affect
if
we
change
this
or
what?
What
can
we
expect?
What
will
it
affect
if
we
change
this
date
and
how
can
we
sort
of
get
a
recap,
a
quick
one
of
what
things
are,
what
things
are
going
to
be
different
here?
A
What
how
they're,
how
they're
going
to
be
different
from
what's
been
proposed
and
what
things
we
still
need
to
clean
up
so
naveed.
I
know
you're
on
here
and
danny.
I
see
you're
on
here
too.
Maybe
how
would
you
like
to
proceed
with
this
danny?
Do
you
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
about
tools
or
naveed?
Would
you
like
to
do
that.
M
I
think
what's
useful
is
that
there
was
a
a
document
produced.
I
think,
a
couple
of
months
ago,
with
iog
making
some
changes
around
the
vca
onboarding
process,
the
punishment
it
was
called.
However,
we
want
to
phrase
it
and
and
other
improvements
around
similarity
analysis
and
checks
and
balances
that
are
going
to
put
in
place,
maybe
danny.
If
you
start
with
what's
happening
with
all
those
it
might
get
everybody
on
up
to
speed.
H
Yeah
so,
like
I
think,
just
to
reset
the
frame
I
think
in
which
we
will
be
the
most
efficient
in
terms
of
like
moving
forward,
was
setting
up
those
different
pockets
of
things
that
how
we
can
all
collectively
be
working
together.
So
like
on
one
of
those
meetings
that
michael
led
a
couple
weeks
ago
was.
Essentially
the
framework
of
these
are
the
things
that
we
can
be
running
as
an
I
o
team
and
that's
the
resources
we're
able
to
put
towards
at
any
given
time
for
for
the
time
frame
of
fund
eight.
H
And
then
here
are
the
opportunities
for
anything
related
that
the
community
can
be
drafting
in
conjunction.
And
then
we
can
sort
of
like
merge
those
efforts
together.
So
there's
like
different
running
lanes
that
we
don't
slow
each
other
down
or
there's
no
sort
of
like
a
confusion
in
terms
of
like
whether
we
can
or
cannot
do
it
or
and
what
is
the
outlook
and
feasibility
within
the
time
frame
provided.
And
then
there
was
a
middle
ground
of
the
things
which
we
would
call
like.
H
The
possibilities
of
like
the
joint
discovery
as
such,
and
when
I
checked
with
the
team
earlier
today,
just
on
a
very
brief
overview
of
like
where
we
are
so,
I
think
for
the
for
the
io
team.
On
the
our
end,
there
were
essentially
things
which
we
wanted
to
commit
to
for
fund
eight
already,
and
then
there
were
some
stretch,
goals
and
such
and
from
the
ones
that
the
commitment
was.
H
You
know
some
so
there's
still
some
last
mile
stuff
from
from
marek
and
the
team
to
go
through
to
make
that
happen,
but
it
will
be
a
very
basic
element
that
will
take
into
account
the
previous
work
done
so
that
we
can
clean
up
those
rings
and
and
become
a
little
bit
more
efficient
in
who
actually
gets
to
do
things
on
on
that
front,
then.
H
The
other
thing
we
said
we'd
be
looking
at
is
the
ca
and
the
vca
activity
database
mvp,
I
think
that's
almost
done,
but
we
still
need
to
circle
back
into
what
form
and
shape
that
is.
I
don't
know
if
I
have
mark
here
on
with
the
call
with
us.
Maybe
he
could
help
shed
some
light
on
it.
As
such.
H
Another
thing
we
were
looking
at
was
automatically
filtering
suspicious
activity
you
know
like
so
I
think
the
scripts
are
already
created.
They
just
need
to
be
executed
by
you
know,
mario
lucio,
during
that
fund
and,
namely,
there
are
two
things
again:
the
similarity
assessment
script
and
then
the
exclusion
threshold.
So
those
two
things
are
being
looked
at
and
then
another
thing
for
the
ca
perspective.
H
We
were
looking
at
providing
the
documentation
for
the
the
presentation
of
existing
incentives
and
and
justifications
of
like
what
was
the
initial
plan
and
and
and
sort
of
background
of
where
the
research
team
was
coming
in
from
so
that
was
the
document
I
shared
I
think
last
week.
I
believe
so
that
there
was
the
output
of
that.
Hopefully,
that
can
help
with
with
anchoring
those
conversations.
A
bit
better,
another
thing
we
had
in
the
document
outlined
was
the
idea
scale
enhancements.
H
So
we
were
specifically
looking
based
on
the
feedback
that
you
provided
for
the
structured
fields
and
sort
of
like
the
embedded
guidance
within
the
within
the
submission
form.
So
the
thing
you
see
today
and
those
breakup
of
the
description
boxes
that
could
help
them
essentially
make
the
the
the
ca
process
a
little
better
and
more
streamlined.
So
that's
already
in
place.
I'm
still
open
to
any
suggestions.
H
If,
if
that
can
be
iterated
as
such,
and
for
for
this-
and
that
was
a,
it
was
actually
a
stretch
goal,
but
that's
in,
but
the
other
stretch
goal
was
to
display
the
assessment
rankings
in
the
voting
app
where
you
know
whether
the
assessments
were
good
or
excellent.
These
were
prioritized
for
the
development,
but
they're
still
working
through
it
and
there
may
be
a
blocker
for
it.
H
B
H
Yeah
and
I
think,
there's
an
opportunity
even
to
push
it
further.
Let's
see
where
this
lands,
maybe
certain
like
words
or
semantics,
can
actually
change,
and
maybe
even
in
the
future,
as
we're
looking
to
build
those
onboarding
documents,
with
the
help
of
you
guys
that
we
can
actually
include
even
the
links
right
there
to
specific
documents
or
videos.
H
I
think
we
played
with
that
introduction
paragraph
a
bit
this
time
around
and
that's
as
much
as
we
could
amass
at
this
point,
but
I
think
that
introduction
like
that
purple
bluish
background
where
people
are
people
are
on
top
before
they
submit
the
title
fields.
That's
a
place
where
we
can
include
a
lot
of
those
information
that
can
be
a
as
a
product
of
these
outcomes
as
well.
H
So
that's
that's,
basically,
a
billboard
that
I'm
willing
to
include
any
relevant
information
that
will
make
it
easier
for
proposals
to
be
better
submitted
in
the
first
place
and
then
in
return,
makes
the
the
life
of
the
ca
assessment
a
bit
a
bit
easier
as
well.
At
the
at
the
other
side
of
the
story.
Is
it
the
same
for
all
the
challenges?
H
H
I
think
I
think
it
is,
but
I
I
will
take
a
note
and
I'll
ask
mark
if
there
is
some
customization
as
always
idea
scale
every
time
we
have
like
this
great
idea,
and
then
we
just
hit
the
wall,
because
it's
not
possible
but
I'll
check
with
mark
and
if
there
is,
and
you
have
an
ideas
about
how
to
make
it
specific,
we
can
definitely
do
it,
and
I
think
it's
also
an
opportunity
to
include
like
guidance
from
challenge
teams,
for
example,
or
things
of
that
nature
that
could
be
included
in
there.
H
But
taking
the
notes,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
mark
yeah,
take
the
note
and
ask
me
you're
here
mark
quick
question:
maybe
you
can
have
the
answer?
Is
it
possible
to
customize
the
introduction
box
on
the
submission
form
challenge
to
challenge,
or
is
it
universal
across
all
of
those?
Of
course
we
can
do
that
cannot
or
can
sorry
can.
Yes,
we
can
all
right
tommy.
N
O
And
I
also
think
it
it's
it's
important
to
think
maybe
for
the
next
fund
for
to
have
a
structured
form
also
for
specific
for
the
challenge
setting,
because
this
is
something
that
we
didn't
discuss
in
this
fund.
But
we
can
follow
the
same
approach
for
the
other
challenges
even
for
the
challenge
setting
if
it
makes
sense.
So
I
think
maybe
we
can
start
document
like
we
did
for
the
the
other
forum.
M
M
So
lucha
and
marika
here
also
should
be
fairly
straightforward.
So,
on
the
on
the
mvp
and
punishment,
one
of
one
of
the
key
challenges
we
had
fund
six
and
fund
seven
was
actually
getting
out
to
the
vcas
that
needed
to
be
challenged.
I
think
fund
six.
It
took
us
three
weeks
and
we
ended
up
challenging
one
person.
M
He
told
me
to
go
away,
but
not
very
politely
and
did
the
same
with
somebody
else.
Eventually
we
escalated
to
you
guys
and
three
weeks
later,
the
guy
was
was
canned
in
fund
seven.
We
try
to
reach
out
to
one
guy,
but
no
way
of
contacting
him.
There
are
probably
another
10
people,
at
least
that
should
have
been
contacted
and
you
can
say,
punish
or
sanctioned,
or
at
least
investigated
further,
but
it
didn't
happen.
So
I
presume
the
process
question
the
problem.
H
H
So
we
can
have
a
look
at
it
and
again
it
will
not
probably
answer
all
our
needs,
but
I
think
the
the
idea
is
to
to
to
adjust
the
course
so
that,
like
those
like
extreme
scenarios
are
eliminated
as
soon
as
possible,
and
then
we
can
push
that
needle
towards
like
more
better
work
collectively
done
on
that
front,
so
that
we
can
have
like
very
clear
definition
of
like
what
it
is
actually
to
be
a
bad
vca
right,
because
I
think
that's
what
we've
missed
traditionally,
that
it
was
very
difficult
defined
clearly
that
we
could
hold
people
accountable
to
100.
H
But
I
think
that
will
help
adjust
with
that.
Then
a
lot
of
those
things
will
be
addressed
in
that
for
sure.
M
Look
forward
to
seeing
that
I
think,
there's
lots
of
people
within
the
community
who
are
data
analysts
who
are
doing
the
analysis
and
just
holding
it
on
the
desktops,
because
they
don't
know
what
to
do
with
it
and
how
to
make
where
to
take
it.
So
having
a
formal
process
say,
we've
got
the
analysis.
We've
got
some
concerns.
How
do
we
actually
take
those
forward
that
would
that
would
be
a
huge
move
forward?
M
You
know
people
got
away
with
thousands
of
dollars
this
fund
last
one
not
not
ideal,
and
I
know
the
bigger
picture.
Let's
see
all
goes
to
improving
the
process,
so
lots
of
learnings
to
be
had
second
question
on
the
similarity
analysis.
Is
that
going
across
system
and
that's
a
cross-fund
or
just
within
the
same
fund?
I
don't
know
marie
coluccio,
you
can
answer.
N
O
Yes,
technically
we
can
do
that,
don't
think
it's
it's
a
really
slow
script,
because
it's
kind
of
you
have
to
make
all
the
combination
between
all
the
assessments,
and
I
I
have
to
make
some
tests,
but
in
theory
it
is
possible
just
we
just
need
to
feed
it
with
more
data
and
data
from
the
fun
date
or
next
time.
No,
no.
I
think
I
think
we
can
try
it
this
month.
Yes,
of
course,.
M
There's
one
more
addition
that
that
would
be
useful
for
fun
day.
It's
the
what
I
call
the
three
word
of
the
three:
the
three
word
assessment,
so
the
len
percent
the
the
length
assessment,
so
there
were
probably
around
300
assessments
last
time
that
were
yes,
yes,
yes,
I
agree.
I
agree.
I
agree,
they
just
need
to
be
canned
and
the
analysis.
M
I
did
it's
in
the
document,
that's
linked
in
in
in
the
in
the
agenda
from
what
I
saw
anything
less
than
150
character
length
where
you
go
across
the
three,
the
three
categories
they
all
got
filtered
out.
M
So
so
you
know
if
you,
if
you're
looking
at
your
different
areas,
plans,
budget,
milestones,
deliverables,
kpis,
etc,
if
you're
150
characters
doesn't
get
you
many
words,
I
don't
know
if
that's
something,
that's
part
of
your
analysis
or
work
that
you're
putting
in
place
alongside
the
similarity
analysis
for
potential
discarding,
don't
know
marek.
You
did
discard
one
guy
who
did
200
one
three
word
assessments
in
front
of
seven,
so
formalizing
that
fun
date
and
catching
all
the
other.
So
there's
probably
another
100
assessments
got
away.
N
Yeah,
so,
regarding
the
character
limit,
we
have
filtered
out
all
the
assessments
with
40
characters
length
or
less.
N
So,
if
someone
wrote
perfect
proposal
or
yes,
it
got
filtered
out
and
regarding
the
the
assessor
whose
all
the
assessments
have
been
excluded,
that's
because
of
similarity
outcome,
and
he
he
has
a
lot
of
identical
identical
assessments
like
other
assessors
in
different
proposals,
identical
I
mean
to
every
single
character.
M
M
Then
we
get
down
to
the
quality,
so
you
know
get
rid
of
all
the
all
the
the
bots,
in
inverted
commas,
get
rid
of
the
the
three
word
assessments
and
the
nonsensical
assessments
discard
before
vca
and
then
we're
down
to
the
five
thousand
okay.
N
We'll
take
take
a
look
at
that,
because
I
was
sure
that
all
the
one
word
assessment
has
been
filtered
out.
Fine.
M
Okay
and
one
more
question
just
from
a
governance
point
of
view,
so
I
presume
this
is
happening
before
this
between
the
ca
and
vca
phases.
What's
who's
taking
that
decision,
or
is
that
not
being
decided
so
who's?
Taking
that
decision
about
who?
What
who
who
gets
filtered
out?
Is
that
being
documented
somewhere
or
is
it
you.
P
H
Yeah,
that's
key.
Essentially
the
goal
I
think
and
scott
had
a
very
good
question
in
the
chat
that
it
will
be
key
to
have
these
ahead.
So
we
need
to
I
you
know
like
the
first
point
of
interest
here.
Is
it
hundred
characters?
Is
it
40
or
150.?
So
I
think
it'd
be
great
if
you
guys
can
provide
us
like
with
recommendation.
What
do
you
think
is
a
good
limit?
I
guess
mark
said
it's
40
in
the
past.
Maybe
now,
maybe
you
say
150
or
something
like
that.
H
We
can
adjust
that
that's
just
the
parameter
as
such,
but
I
think
the
biggest
improvement
within
the
flow
of
it
all
is
that
we
actually
implement
all
of
that
before
we
unload
the
work
onto
the
vcas
and
that's
exactly
what
you
were
saying
just
a
moment
ago,
so
that
we
don't
flood
everybody
with
the
nonsense
that
we
all
have
to
go
through,
just
simply
because
it
was
generated
with
an
ease
of
a
few
clicks
of
the
button,
but
that
we
actually
get
some
kind
of
words.
H
Another
thing
and
that's
for
the
point
of
the
discussion,
whether
we
are
not
going
to
get
a
lots
of
lorem
ipsums
just
to
fit
that
character
limit
as
well.
So
we'll
see
how
that
rolls
out,
but
in
terms
of
the
character
limit
or
what
exactly
the
parameters
we
can
include
in
in
those
scripts.
We'd
be
very
much
looking
for
that
input
and
the
key
is
to
have
this
in
place
and
communicate
it
before
people
start
doing
the
work
so
they're
clear
in
terms
of
the
engagement.
What
is
it
that
they're
expected
to
do
so?
H
M
Happy
to
feed
into
that,
so
much
of
my
document
goes
in
and
shows
some
evidence
of
of
character
limits
and
and
all
the
different
issues
I
I
saw
during
during
fund
seven,
and
one
thing
we
need
to
be
cautious
of
on
the
similarity
analysis
is
genuine
cas,
don't
get
caught
up
in
in
in
the
in
the
rules
as
it
were.
They
don't
because
they've
written
something
quite
generic
that
it
may,
except
so
it
doesn't
need
a
manual
check.
M
It
can't
just
be
your
your
your
court
in
your
court
in
the
bot
network,
so
it
doesn't
need,
does
need
to
be
looked
up
post.
So
it's
a
proposal
for
discarding
as
opposed
to
it's
a
hard
and
fast
rule.
O
O
And
it's
it's!
It's
not
available
to
to
have
an
automatic
exclusion
based
on
this,
so
it's
kind
of
I
don't
know,
identify
the
the
worst
cases
like.
I
know
when
we
see
different
assessors
that
wrote
the
same
sentence:
exact
same
sentence
stuff
like
that
and,
as
always,
I
think
the
idea
of
the
similarity
script
and
the
analysis
just
have
more
data
and
an
analysis
for
vcas
to
do
their
work
and
another
input
for
that.
Okay,.
M
And
I
think
we
do
need
to
move
on
because
the
one
that
will
get
caught
out
is
the
people
who
use
templates
so
people
who
are
using
the
same
the
same
structure
and
ask
the
question
answer
the
question
and
they'll
get
caught
in
this
analysis
and
they
are
potentially
genuine
cas.
You
shouldn't
be
but
have
happened.
M
O
O
M
Needs
to
be
a
proposal
and
then
reviewed
manually.
If
that's
documented
in
the
in
the
in
the
in
the
process,
you
guys
are
coming
up
with
that'd,
be
great.
A
A
So
to
your
to
your
request,
danny
for
having
us
have
a
little
bit
of
a
conversation
here.
I
recognize
we're
not
on
the
agenda
perfectly,
but
I
think
we're
in
like
a
merging
of
iog
updates
and
and
discussion
here
and
while
we
have
well,
we
have
marek
and
danny.
Perhaps
we
can
just
use,
maybe
two
or
three
minutes
here
to
talk
about
one.
A
I
guess
one
of
the
concerns
for
the
front-facing
changes
that
are
being
considered
specifically
like
giving
some
indicators
of
bad
behavior
that
will
be
mixed
and
maybe
have
any
kind
of
additional
onboarding
stuff.
It
was
requested
from
some
of
the
community
that
we
have
a
little
bit
of
space
between
producing
and
releasing
that
for
translations
and
all
that
to
happen
for
non-english
speaking
folks
to
be
able
to
absorb
any
changes
and
for
us,
as
a
community,
that's
been
doing
things
one
way.
A
Hopefully
most
of
us
haven't
been
doing
those
things
that
way,
but
so
that
we
can
address
these
things.
Do
we
do?
We
need
a
chunk
of
time?
What?
What
is?
What
does
everyone
think
about
moving
the
registration
for
cas?
Do
we
need
a
few?
A
few
days
or
a
week
or
some
time
to
be
able
to
put
those
things
in
place,
preventative
and
you
know
what
are
the
thoughts
on
that
give
us
some
way
in
our
chat
or
just
chime
in
here.
H
P
H
So
there
will
be
a
week
before
so
I
think
march
10th
there's
an
option
on
the
table
that
we
can
open
it
sooner.
Should
there
be
appetite
for
it
and
should
that
improve
anything
within
you
know
getting
people
involved,
because
I
think
another
thing
that
we
need
to
think
about
is
growing
ca
ranks
and
getting
people
interested
in
it,
and
you
know
balancing
it
with
the
information
that
we're
providing
them
as
a
part
of
the
onboarding.
So
how
much
time
we
have
of
a
lead
way.
H
S
Thanks
I'd
be
preparing
the
the
second
option,
daniel
that
you
were
mentioning
and
moving
forward
the
date
of
being
able
to
register
as
a
ca,
because
of
two
reasons:
one
is
that
part
of
the
role
of
being
a
ca
is
actually
helping
and
providing
feedback
during
the
stage.
So
if
someone
is
joining
at
the
end
of
the
stage,
she
won't
that
person
here
she
won't
be
able
to
do
that.
That's
one
and
the
other
one
is
that
that
also
gives
you
time.
S
N
Can
I
perfect
so
original
time
for
see
a
registration
opening
was
march
10th?
So
if
we
are
going
to
open
sooner,
it
will
be
tomorrow
tomorrow
and
it
will
be
open
for
two
weeks
up
to
march
17th,
because
then
we
are
opening
the
assessment
stage
yeah,
but
know
that
on
march
17th
we'll
have
to
to
hold
basically
everything
for
maybe
even
one
day
I
mean
we
have
to
prepare
assessment
stage.
H
Is
there
room
to
make
it
like,
instead
of
a
week
that
we
make
it
10
days
like
we
open
the
ca
registration
on
monday,
as
opposed
strictly
week
by
week?
Of
course,
we
can
do
everything-
okay,
so
just
clarifying
that.
So
it's
not
like
week
by
week
that
we're
locked
into
tomorrow
or
next
week
on
thursday,
but
we
could
theoretically
open
it
on
monday,
tuesday
or
anything
that
we
actually
choose
correct
as
long
okay,
good.
T
T
Oh,
like
I
have
the
opportunity
to
forget
pretty
much
on
your
role
or
when
can
you
start
so?
How
is
that
kind?
Is
there
any
additions
on
that
side
like?
How
could
we
revitalize
this
community
advisor,
who
registered
already
and
to
power
them
up
hey
here
is
what
you
have
to
do
here
is
where
you
have
to
go,
and
I'm
not
sure
is
this.
Newsletter
should
be
enough,
but
in
some
reason
it
wasn't
or
making
the
registration
a
bit
more
understandable
in
a
sense
that
hey
this.
H
Well,
I
would
say
if
phil
or
tommy
don't
want
to
go
next,
we
can
probably
edit
the
information
which
is
in
the
form
or
make
the
form
a
little
bit
more
complicated.
H
H
Mark
is
on
the
back
of
my
head,
as
I
see
his
hand
up,
but
I'm
thinking
that,
instead
of
making
it
super
easy
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
can
also
look
at
it
just
as
simply
as
a
funnel
and
not
use
it
as
a
metric,
whether
like
we
will
have
as
many
participating
cas
or
not
because
at
the
end
is
getting
people
interested
enough
and
understanding
enough
to
actually
contribute
into
that
ca
work
at
the
end
of
the
day
and
whether
it
was
a
thousand
or
ten
thousand
that
expressed
the
interest.
H
I
I
generally
looked
at
it
as
sort
of
like
just
an
expression
of
interest,
but
maybe
we
can
tweak
the
form
that
can
be
able
to
provide
more
information,
and
maybe
there
can
be
some
guidance
from
the
group
here.
What
information
do
we
want
to
actually
include
in
that
form,
based
on
what
we
can
actually
adjust,
and
that
may
allow
people
to
arrive
at
a
better
decision,
whether
they
want
to
be
a
ca
or
not?
From
top
of
my
head.
P
That
that
sounds
like
a
good
possibility
as
a
iterative
change,
and
then
I
was
going
to
mention
before
I
mentioned,
that
the
guidelines
need
updating.
So
if,
if
navigate
and
other
people
have
actual
hard
numbers
that
they
want
to
apply
to
things,
then
those
numbers
need
to
be
included
in
the
guidelines
before
before
we
open
the
the
ca
process,
so
that
people
can
read
and
understand
what
what's
going
to
be
involved
and
what's
necessary.
P
P
So
just
keep
that
in
mind
that
that
guidelines
is
the
super
important
piece
of
the
puzzle
to
get
that
ready
and
community
agreed
before
before
we
open
the
process.
L
Yeah
so
I
placed
in
the
chat
that
should
we
address
this
issue
about
long
assessments
are
excellent
assessments
would
save
some
time
and
I
actually
like
it
in
the
proposal
that
you
have
to
be
very
concise
in
the
beginning
and
try
to
capture
the
essence
of
the
proposal.
So
maybe
we
could
take
the
similar
approach
for
assessments
that
we
would
capture
the
essence
of
the
assessment
in
less
characters
and
make
the
make
the
assessments
excellent,
like
that,
just
an
idea.
M
M
A
So
can
I
can
I
propose
what
would
it
be
like
putting
all
this
together?
What
would
it
be
like
danny
if
we
didn't?
If
we
didn't
do
it?
Maybe
we
start
early,
but
we
start
maybe
next
week
and
we
form
a
small
group
with
all
these
considerations
in
there
we
focus
on
getting
the
ca
guidelines
updated.
So
we
have
some
indicators
right.
We
give
some
time
and
then
we
open
it
up
early.
So
there's
more
time
to
jose's
point
about
for
people
to
be
able
to
be
part
of
the
proposal
process.
A
That's
also
a
little
longer,
so
you
know
there's
a
little
bit
of
those
things
shifting.
So
if
we
got
a
small
group
together
of
anyone
from
here
who
has
been
making
comments,
maybe
we
get
a
chat
or
conversation
going
and
we
think
about
what
are
those
key
things
we
need
to?
We
need
to
address
and
we
address
those
things
and
we
give
ourselves
a
hard
timeline
of
the
new
launch
date.
Opening
of
the
ca
registration
does
that
make
sense.
H
I
think
so,
and
especially
like
I
think
that,
once
we
actually
know
that
all
these
data
and
the
things
we
want
to
do
is
already
like
crystallized,
then
we
can
sort
of
commit
to
a
date
right
because
then
we
know
we
can
implement
it
and
just
to
be
perfectly
honest,
we
are
quite
stretched
on
the
back
end
so
like
if
that
can
come
as
like,
really
as
a
concrete
steps
of
like
what
are
the
things
that
we
can
go
and
implement
a
b
c
d,
that's
the
fastest
way
for
for
mark
and
the
team
to
go
in
and
be
able
to
implement
it
and
then
run
with
it
just
just
to
set
the
expectations
in
terms
of
like
if
we
want
to
get
it
up,
we
absolutely
love
the
input
so
like,
let's
brainstorm
whatever
we
can,
but
it
needs
to
be
actionable
and
it
needs
to
be
very
targeted.
H
So
we
know
that
it
can
be
implemented
now
and
given
the
timeline,
I
think
that's
the
most
critical,
because
there's
always
things
we
can
do,
but
just
the
time
ahead,
the
budget
in
that
resource
and
how
how
we
can
get
it
done.
So
as
long
as
we
can
get
that
in
sometime
during
the
during
the
next
week
as
a
finalized
version,
obviously
that
gives
us
like
a
day
or
two
heads
up
that
we
can
implement
it.
That
would
be
ideal.
A
P
I
think
the
best
idea
is
to
pop
open
the
the
draft
of
the
guidelines
and
just
do
commentary
and
and
adjustments
in
there
straight
away,
because
then
we
can
work
asynchronously
and
I
I'd
suggest
we
can
create
a
thread
in
the
discord
as
well.
If
people
want
to
continue
this
discussion
specifically
about
the
ca
guidelines
and
improvements
to
the
fund,
a
process.
A
L
A
Okay,
so
phil
can
I
can
I
work
with
you
on
maybe
like
getting
everyone
together
and
we'll
we'll
put
the
we'll
start
just
like.
P
Sure
you'll
be
pushing
it
forward.
I
can
I'll
share
a
link
to
the
I'll
set
up
a
thread
and
see
if
I
can
get
a
link
out.
I
did
start
up
a
specific
vca
discussion
thread
as
well
a
few
weeks
ago,
because
I
noticed
that
there
was
going
to
be
some
problems
coming
up
with
the
vca
process.
So
I'd
like
to
I'd
like
a
moment
to
discuss
that
as
well.
If
I
can,
but
maybe
in
a
minute
when,
when
other
things
have
passed,
okay.
A
Great
lynn,
did
you
want
to
comment
on
on
this
topic.
U
Go
ahead,
yeah,
quick
one
for
the
time
so
now
is
my
time
is
the
third
right
and,
if
possible,
that
we
can
finish
on
the
docks
and
that
mark
put
it
on
the
registration
form
in
id
scale
before
the
10.
U
So
from
the
10
example
right,
I'm
not
sure
whether
they
will
be
formed
after
this,
but
from
the
10
so
example.
I
just
put
it
on
there
size
a
three
box
or
update
ca
for
night.
U
Are
they
ticked
if
they
don't
tick,
that
they're
not
accepted
for
ca,
so
to
be
fair,
whoever
knew
or
oca
they
should
go
through
the
registration
again,
of
course,
and
then
there's
a
couple
box
update
ca,
update
punishment,
update
whatever
there
so
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I
don't
think
mark
or
danny
or
anyone
from
iot
would
receive
the
complaint
saying
why
I
don't
have
my
payment.
All
of
that,
so
we
might
prefer
to
that
kind
of.
U
You
know
the
you
know
checklist
document
just
a
box
only,
but
if
they
make
sure
that
they
take
that,
like
not
come
back,
say
I
I
do
I
I
do
what
a
guidelines
provider,
but
I
just
don't,
have
any
payment.
So
that's,
for
example,
so
something
with
that
box.
We
can
do
that
in
in
about
in
about
now
a
week
time.
I
guess
a
week
time
we
can
make
it.
I
think
we'd
feel
where
I
would
feel
before.
So
I
think
that
can
be
done
yeah.
Thank
you.
P
Yeah
I
just
shared
in
the
in
the
chat.
A
Sorry,
that's
all
right!
Thanks!
Okay,
so
phil's
link
there.
Let's
hop
on
to
that
and
let's
see
if
we
can
get
this
done
and
then
danny
and
merrick,
maybe
we'll
just
stay
in
close
communication
on
this
and
start
to
start
to
see.
If
we
can
put
a
button
on
it.
F
Any
any
other
go
ahead
mark.
Are
you
still
having
a
question
or
your
hand,
getting
tired
or
or
not?
Yes,
thank
you.
I'm.
N
Sorry
mine's
up
too
oops.
I
always
forget
to
put
mine
down
sorry,
no
problem.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
danny.
I
totally
agree
with
you.
I
don't
know
if
you
remember
what
you
were
talking
about
about
making
the
registration
form
more
complicated,
because
I
faced
a
situation
when
a
newly
created
member
registered
as
a
ca
made
one
assessment.
N
The
assessment
has
been
reviewed
as
a
good
one,
and
now
this
community
advisor
wants
to
be
a
veteran
community
advisor
in
fund
8
and
also
community,
no
only
veteran
community
advisor
in
fund
8..
So
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
good
or
not
good,
but
I
think
we
should
create
more
complicated
registration
form
because
now
people
like
don't
even
read
it
and
yeah.
Of
course,
why
not.
H
Yeah,
so
that
works
out
the
only
thing
that
if
we
were
to
change
the
thing
that
you
may
have
alluded
to
in
terms
of
like
a
threshold
like,
is
it
enough
to
be
a
vca?
If
you
had
only
one
proposal,
something
like
that,
I
think
we
need
to
phase
out
over
the
course
of
a
fund
cycle,
or
something
like
that,
so
that
people
can
plan
these
things
ahead,
because
then
you're
sort
of
punishing
retroactively,
a
lot
of
people
who
may
have
not
had
that
information
in
the
first
place.
P
In
regards
to
the
vca
process,
from
what
merit
just
said,
maybe
we
can
adjust
it
to
be
that
you've
been
a
ca
in
two
funds.
P
Now
that
we've
got
enough
funds
under
the
belt,
it
means
that
you've
at
least
participated
in
in
two
funds
and
submitted
assessments
and
and
been
successfully
rated
well
in
those
two
funds.
So
that
could
be
an
easy
change
to.
But
I
don't
know
if
we
have
that
data
merrick.
P
H
Yeah,
but
I
would
just
caution
that
it
does
work
on
the
deeper
discussion,
whether
that's
okay,
to
implement
that
today,
that
somebody
would
have
to
have
the
vca2
funds
and,
if
they've
done
a
really
good
job
already
in
the
past
fund,
and
they
have
only
one
and
it's
sort
of
like
just
a
new
role.
So
probably
beyond
this
meeting
at
this
point
in
terms
of
the
the
time
budget,
but
something
to
keep
in
mind.
P
At
the
moment,
though,
you
only
find
out
if
you've
never
heard
about
the
vca
role,
you
get
received
an
email
and
say
you've
been
if
you
wish
to
join
the
vca
ranks
right.
So
if
you're
not
aware
of
the
process
already
I
mean
yeah,
we
should
discuss
it
more,
but
it
is
possible
to
implement
such
a
thing.
I
think.
B
I
just
wanted
to
amplify
something
ashton
suggested
that
you
know
in
terms
of
a
very
simple
test
for
being
a
ca.
B
I
don't
know
if
you
you
know
that
might
be
too
difficult
for
this
process.
You
know
I'm
not
suggesting
that
in
this
round,
you'd
be
able
to
implement
that,
but
I,
like
that
suggestion
of
of
a
very
simple
kind
of
test.
That's
a
little
bit
like
you
know,
just
identify
traffic
lights,
but
the
the
game
would
be
identify
whether
these
assessments
are
good
filter
out
or
excellent.
B
And
actually,
I
would
leave
out
excellent
v
then
just
make
it
simpler
just
is
it
a
filter
out
or
is
it
a
good?
You
know
just
keep
it
a
very
simple
like
something
a
little
bit
like
you
click
on
the
light
traffics.
You
know
you
have
like
an
array
of
assessments.
Would
you
filter
it
out,
or
would
you
say
that
it's
good
I
I
would
leave
out
the
excellent
category.
H
H
A
No,
no
sorry
to
me,
I
think
it.
This
we've
been
working
on
these
things
for
a
long
time
together
and
there's
been,
there's
been
like
a
lot
of
different
thoughts.
So
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
best
conversations
we
could
have.
I'm
sure
most
of
you
really
hope
so
any
other
any
other
questions
right
now
for
danny
or
merrick,
while
we're
here.
V
You
just
want
immediate
solutions
danny
because
I
mean
my
suggestion
would
be
like
for
the
vca
or
for
the
cas
actually
go
through
training
through.
I
don't
know
like
catalyst
school
or
something
like
that,
and
then
you
give
them
the
assessment
when
they're
done
with
that
training
and
then
yeah
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
That'd
be
my
suggestion,
or
it
doesn't
even
have
to
be
catalyst
school.
It
can
be
whatever
that's
supported
by
the
community.
I
was
just
using
them
because
they're
already
they're
already
available.
P
P
Some
sort
of
badge
which
we've
been
talking
about
since
since
the
beginning,
and
you
could
collect
a
bunch
of
you-
could
build
out
your
your
ca
reputation
by
attending
schools
and
town
halls,
and
discussions
like
this,
but
to
make
it
compulsory,
is
very
hard
because
then
you're
restricting
all
new
players
and
and
and
making
it
difficult
for
them.
So
it's
important
to
make
it
very
easy
to
enter
and
then
to
ramp
up
quickly.
I
think
is,
is
kind
of
what
I'm
trying
to
say
there.
A
A
Let's
pop
to
james,
and
let
give
you
a
second
to
figure
that
out
we'll
come
back
to
you:
go
ahead.
James.
W
I
I
just
was
scott's
point
there.
I
kind
of
think,
because
you
know
I'm
pretty
new
to
this
and
if,
if
people
are
getting
basically
judged
on
their
their
feedback
to
have
a
process,
a
learning
process,
whether
it's
in
catalyst
school
at
least
everyone
can
be
on
the
same
page
then
so
you
can,
you
know,
have
a
real
understanding
of
what
you
need
to
produce
to
to
do
a
good
proposal.
W
I
know
there's
you
know,
I
know
you
can
go
in
and
read
proposals
and
see
which
ones
have
been
sort
of
rated
as
good
or
excellent,
but
to
actually
have
a
sort
of
a
bit
of
a
formal
process.
I
think,
but
certainly
for
me
would
be
a
really
beneficial
thing.
P
B
And
I
I
think
I'll
chime
in
be
to
say
what
I
think
allison
might
have
been
saying
in
common
to
this-
is
that
she
and
I
are
working
on
a
couple
of
proposals
to
help
this
in
fund.
Eight
two
of
the
proposals
are
around
the
use
of
digital
identity.
Where
to
be
a
ca,
you
would
be
required
to
register
a
digital
identity
and
then
that
part
of
that
process
would
be
getting
certified
through
the
catalyst
school
that
you've
gone
through
the
process
of
being
certified.
B
B
Q
Audible,
yeah,
hey
yeah,
thank
you,
kendrick.
That
is
exactly
what
I
was
trying
to
say
earlier,
because
scott
and
and
phil
gave
the
perfect
lead
into
the
proposal
that
we're
we're
working
on,
and
I
I
wanted
to
say
that
hearing
the
feedback
about
education
and
onboarding
also
hearing
the
feedback
that
a
more
complicated
registration
process
would
be
nice,
that
a
proof
of
humanity
would
be
a
good
thing
for
a
ca
to
have
to
demonstrate
the
proposal
that
kenrick-
and
I
are
working
on
that
he
just
just
mentioned-
achieves
all
of
those
goals.
Q
Q
So
we
started
with
asking
the
question:
well
can
and
how
should
this
technology
be
used
to
improve
the
ca
process
and
it
seems
like,
as
kendrick
was
saying,
a
basic
onboarding
proof
of
humanity,
part
of
the
registration
process,
where
the
the
ca
does
some
sort
of
an
onboarding
credential
and
then
uses
that
in
the
registration
process
could
achieve
a
lot
of
these
objectives.
That
people
have
just
been
mentioning,
so
we
are
actually
working
on
a
proposal
to
do
that.
Q
It
won't
be
ready
for
fund
eight,
of
course,
maybe
not
even
for
fun
nine,
although
that
would
be
the
stretch
goal.
But
a
key
aspect
of
the
proposal
that
we're
working
on
is
getting
feedback
from
this
group
so
that
the
education
component
of
it
and
what
actually
goes
into
that
onboarding
and
registration
process
comes
out
of
the
ca
expertise.
That's
gathered
here
so
now.
Q
I'm
gonna
jump
way
ahead
to
point
three
on
the
agenda
because
I
just
basically
said
what
I
had
wanted
to
say
there,
but
nadia
has
has
helped
to
facilitate
the
organization
of
a
subcircle
of
this
group.
That
would
focus
on
what
goes
into
education
and
onboarding
for
cas,
and
so
a
longer
term
objective
would
be
to
help
steer
the
proposal
that
kendrick
and
I
are
working
on.
Q
But
then
shorter
term
objective
would
also
be
to
provide
some
more
immediate
education
and
feedback
that
could
even
be
effective
as
early
as
fund
aid
and
that
you
know
wouldn't
need
to
intertwine
with
the
decentralized
identity
solutions,
so
that
that
was
everything
that
I
wanted
to
say.
Henry.
Thank
you
very
much
for
rescuing
me
there
when
my
microphone
failed,
so
yeah
nadia
back
to
you.
A
Okay,
great
so
I'll
just
put
out
no
that's
good.
This
is
like
our
agenda
is
going
to
be
like
a
ping
pong.
It's
good
we'll
go
all
over
the
place
from
where
we
thought
we
would
get,
but
eventually
we'll
get
to
everything.
So
that's
fantastic
and
yeah
so
for
forming
it
forming
for
peop
for
to
be
participated
in
encouraged,
contributed
to
is
just
a
group
thinking
about
this
process.
A
Thinking
about
what
tools
and
advancements
we
can
build
for
it
and
also
what
things
we
can
do
short
term
and
long
term
for
the
process
of
educating
and
onboarding
new
cas
and
helping
them
to
move
from
good
to
great
assessments
and
and
more
of
them
effectively.
So
on
that
agenda
sheet
that
you
have,
there
is
a
little
poll
we're
going
to
try
to
get
that
group
together.
It's
open
to
everyone,
obviously,
but
certainly
those
of
you
who
are
who
are
feeling
passionate
about
it.
We
hope
that
you
can
jump
into
it.
A
It's
going
to
be
an
initial
discussion,
we're
going
to
try
to
hold
that
early
next
week.
I
know
how
this
community
feels
about
google
forms,
and
so
I
apologize
for
a
survey
in
google
form
the
doodle
and
other
tooling
polls
that
we
usually
use
we're
totally
down
today.
So
sorry
about
the
google
form
and
if
you
want
to
just
take
a
look
at
that,
we're
going
to
try
to
schedule
that
by
friday.
A
So
just
look
at
your
schedule
and
if
you're
interested
in
being
in
this
conversation,
it'd
be
great
for
you
to
pop
in
there
and
and
let
us
know
so,
do
you
think
any
other
comments
for
danny
and
marek
before
we
move
on
to
jeremy,
and
I
think
we
can
then
we
just
did
allison,
so
we
can
skip
to
jeremy
and
then
on
to
scott.
Unless
there's
anything
else.
That
wants
to
be
noted
here.
E
E
The
the
first
way
is
the
visible
aspect
and
we're
already
seeing
it
in
play,
and
this
is
where
groups
in
the
community
they
coalesce
around
emergent
leaders
and
supporters
of
various
initiatives
and
those
initiatives
have
the
properties
of
being
sources
of
positive
change
and
leading
to
maybe
a
more
productive
and
healthier
relationship
between
the
work
of
cas
and
the
catalyst
ecosystem
at
large,
and
these
groups
are
called
sub-circles
and
they'll
spin
up
the
spin
down
whenever,
wherever,
whenever
they're
needed
to
address
initiatives,
we
expect
these
to
be
short
time
spans.
E
In
the
case
of
what
we're
talking
about
with
this
vca
discussion,
a
very
short
time
span.
We
typically
we're
going
to
measure
these
things
in
days
or
weeks,
so
community
members
come
together.
Collaborate
achieve
consensus,
finalize
a
version
of
their
work
that
they
are
able
to
push
to
wherever
it
can
do
the
most
good.
This
could
be
to
tool
makers.
This
could
be
to
iog.
It
could
be
into
a
proposal
from
a
fund.
E
That's
that's
all
one
way
of
looking
at
the
subcircles,
but
there's
another
way
of
looking
at
them
as
well,
and
that's
the
roles
and
the
processes
and
structures
that
we're
putting
in
place
to
support
the
subcircles,
which
is
kind
of
an
abstract
version
of
looking
at
the
subcircle.
That
is
always
present
it's
in
the
background
running
this.
We
can
institute
this
framework
top-down,
it's
something
we're
all,
probably
familiar
with,
and
refugees,
from
a
collection
of
rules
that
structures
our
behavior
constrains
our
outputs.
E
It
leads
to
pre-approved
conditions.
You
know
where
you're
going-
and
I
don't
know
about
you,
but
that
that
really
doesn't
sound
to
me,
like
the
catalyst
that
we're
all
here
trying
to
create.
E
The
subcircle
concept
has
led
to
a
different,
maybe
process
for
understanding
that,
where
we,
instead
of
building
that
we
try
and
take
a
discovery,
learning
our
way
forward
process
and
figure
out
these
behaviors
and
outputs
through
a
bottom-up
approach,
where
we
listen
first
to
the
pioneers
you've
heard
allison
talking
about
one
idea
here,
the
communicators
will
step
up
and
and
tell
us
how
they're
working
on
it,
where
we're
seeing
experimental
operational
models,
experimental
consensus
protocols
and-
and
maybe
we
can
discover
the
shared
principles
and
the
purpose
that
they
represent
and
try
and
capture
those
instead
of
trying
to
impose
something
they're,
obviously
already
hard
at
it
and
and
we're
going
to
be
seeing,
I
think,
soon,
improvements
in
the
quality
of
our
communication
and
the
learning
networks,
which
usually
do
come.
E
First
in
these
scenarios
that
deepen
our
connections
through
understanding
and
trust,
and
I've
started
to
look
at
this.
E
E
So
I'm
I'm
talking
here
about
sub-circles
as
a
foundation
that
can
not
only
be
expanded
to
accommodate
more
things
but
copied
wherever
they're
needed
and
it's
the
kind
of
foundation
that
allow
us,
as
a
community
within
a
community
and
as
participants
within
that
community
to
effectively
absorb
things
like
what
allison's
talking
about
here.
Reputation,
systems
verified
credentials,
dids
those
things
require
governance,
framework
to
work
and
and
it'll.
Allow
us
to
iterate
model,
effective
self-governance
on
this
pathway,
I'm
trying
to
take
to
an
independent
catalyst.
E
If
any
of
this
was
interesting,
just
reach
out
to
community
members,
the
people
are
speaking
up
today.
We
want
to
keep
spreading
the
word
on
this
there's
a
sub-circle
root
document.
That's
out
there
we're
going
to
try
and
get
that
into
a
hub
of
some
sort,
which
will
probably
end
up
being
a
get
book
or
possibly
a
get
page.
If
anybody
can
help
with
that,
that
would
be
useful.
E
There's
the
running
the
surveys
out
getting
those
running
on
a
regular
basis,
so
we're
tracking
our
progress
in
the
agenda,
there's
a
link
to
something
we're
calling
an
intentions
document,
and
that
is
an
embryonic.
Almost
version
of
a
governance
protocol,
so
people
taking
a
look
at
that
commenting
tearing
it
apart
and
working
to
understand
what
all
the
ideas
and
statements
in
there
might
mean
and
how
they
can
be
improved.
E
I
just
want
to
thank
nadia
for
making
the
space
that
all
this
could
start
to
happen
and
come
together
so
quickly
and
thank
you.
Everybody
for
listening,
cheers.
A
It's
like
it's
a
very
it's
a
very
well.
The
idea
itself
feels
good
and
jeremy.
How
you
presented
is
also
so
thoughtful.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
thank
you
for
all
your
work
on
it.
Tommy
did
an
incredible
amount
of
work,
and
philip
and
simon
were
also
in
an
initial
discussion
that
we
have
just
trying
to
get
purpose
purpose
there,
and
it
seems
that
with
the
subcircle
there's
a
lot
of
synergy
with
some
of
the
other.
A
I
think
the
more
we're
all
finding
there's
a
lot
of
synergy
among
the
different
things,
and
so
it's
really
a
benefit
of
having
groups
that
can
form
in
response
to
a
challenge
and
then
disband
as
well.
So
really
appreciate
that
I
don't
there
is.
We
did
have
an
initial
like
small
group
discussion
on
the
subcircles
just
to
sort
of
get
consensus
on
purpose,
and
that
is
the
recording
being
uploaded
is
forthcoming.
So
I'll.
A
Stick
that
on
this
sheet
that
we
have
soon
it
will
be
on
the
swarm
site-
and
maybe
you
know,
take
take
a
look
at
that.
We
go
into
it
pretty
deep
and
if
you
look
at
that
subsequent
root
doc,
that
is
linked
in
the
in
the
agenda
there.
That
will
really
give
you
a
sense
of
the
full
perspective
for
that
merit.
N
I
just
wanted
to
explain
what
I
proposed.
We
can
create
proposal
like
real
proposal
or
take
some
proposal
from
funds2
whatever.
Just
we
can
create
proposal
and
call
it
ca.
Res
fund
hca
registration
and
put
it
in
the
asset
stage
open
for
everyone,
so
everyone
will
be
able
to
open
idea
scale
go
to
that
proposal
and
assess
it
normally.
Like
answer
three
questions,
impact
auditability,
feasibility
right
and
it
will
be
open
for
like
a
week.
Let's
say,
then
I
will
export
all
the
assessments
made.
Let's
say
it
will
be
500
of
them.
N
Maybe,
and
I
will
anonymize
it
share
with
the
vcas
for
day
or
two
and
vcas
will
just
will
review
it
and
mark
it
as
a
filter
out,
good
or
excellent,
and
those
assessors
who
will
get
good
or
excellent,
will
pass
through
the
registration
and
will
be
able
to
do
assessments
in
fund
8..
What
do
you
think
about
that?.
B
B
But
you
also
want
it
to
be
simple
enough
that
you're
not
really
excluding
people
and
you're
not
making
the
system
making
it
more
complex.
So,
to
me,
a
kind
of
multiple
choice,
question
in
which
you
have
several
assessments
and
you
just
have
to
rank
it,
whether
it
should
be
filtered
out
or
it's
good.
B
Would
fulfill
that
without
making
it
too
complicated
and
and
it
could
and
the
other
thing
too,
is
it
it's
easier
to
automate
the
you
know,
the
the
you
know,
for
instance,
you
have
to
get
like
80
of
them
right.
You
know
and
it's
fairly
obvious,
whether
it's
a
good
assessment
or
it
should
be
filtered
out,
but
it's
just
this
simple
barrier
to
entry
that
makes
sure
that
you're
taking
the
time
to
show
that
you're,
human
and
thinking
about
this,
and
that
you
have
a
basic
understanding
of
what's
being
asked.
Kendrick.
B
Right,
no,
what
I'm
thinking
is
this
is
for
the
ca
process,
but
you
use
the
vca
process
as
the
test,
because
the
vca
process
is
actually
easier
to
evaluate
whether
you
did
it
right
or
not.
You
know,
in
other
words,
if
you're
good.
If
you
ask
people
to
write
an
assessment,
there's
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
into
figuring
out
whether
they
did
it
correctly
or
not,
but
you
can
assess
fairly
simply
whether
someone
completed
the
vca
process
correctly.
B
F
Devil's
advocate
here
and
I'm
going
to
game
the
system-
and
you
know
10
of
us
are
going
to
look
at
our
answers
and
going
did
you
agree?
This
is
excellent.
Oh
yeah!
This
is
good
and
we're
all
10
of
us
are
going
to
get
in
for
that.
For
that
reason,
if
we
take
an
actual
proposal-
and
you
know
it's
it's-
it's
a
work
to
do
it.
F
Yes,
but
we
are
going
to
get
paid
for
this
and
then,
if
we're
going
to
try
and
game
the
system,
we're
going
to
copy
and
paste
my
friends-
and
I
would
trust
that
there's
some
sort
of
system-
that's
going
to
catch
that
and
you're
going
to
notice
this
person's
trying
to
get
it.
B
That's
easy
because
it
can
just
be
like
very
much
like
the
you
know,
find
the
lamp
posts
right.
You
could
just
have
a
database
of
assessments
and
then
they
randomly,
but.
F
F
Maybe
that's
a
bot,
but
you
know
the
average
person
wouldn't
have
that
database.
I
would
assume
the
bot
situation
is
totally
different.
I'm
talking
about
humans
that
come
in
and
you
know
some
may
want
to
come
in
and
game
the
system
and
right.
F
B
That
way,
it's
fairly
simple,
but
it's
enough
of
a
barrier
to
weed
out
automation
of
registration,
automation
of
execution.
Q
Yeah-
and
I
I
would
just
add
to
that,
to
say
that
those
varying
ideas
of
what
could
be
required
in
the
registration
process
all
fits
into
the
idea
and
the
the
proposal
that
that
we
have
for
having
some
form
of
ca.
Onboarding
that
uses
decentralized
identity,
because
the
decentralized
identity
and
the
oddborning
format
is
just
the
structure.
Q
The
open
question
is:
what's
the
content
that
would
that
the
ca
would
be
required
to
to
learn
or
to
demonstrate,
and
it
could
be
something
as
simple
as
answering
a
couple
of
questions
filtering
out
or
you
know,
assessing
a
couple
of
assessments
for
good,
filtered
or
excellent.
It
could
be
ranking
or
rev
rating
a
a
proposal
from
a
past
fund.
Q
All
of
those
interesting
ideas
could
fit
into
the
structure
of
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
decentralized
identity,
and
I
wanted
to
point
that
out,
because
I
think
that
what
I'm
trying
to
do
what
kendrick
and
I
are
trying
to
do
with
the
proposal-
is
provide
the
decentralized
identity
framework
or
tool
in
support
of
improving
the
ca
process
and
so
just
to
maybe
try
again
to
clarify
what
I'm
hoping
to
do
with.
Q
With
nadia's
support
with
this
education
group
is
to
take
the
best
ideas
around
the
education
and
onboarding
process,
like
the
various
things
that
are
coming
out
of
this
conversation
and
use
those
in
conjunction
with
decentralized
identity,
which
is
a
really
nice
tool
to
use
for
any
of
those
solutions,
because
it
gets
us
away
from
relying
on
the
assessor
z625
from
idea
scale
it.
It
increases
anonymity.
Q
It
takes
the
data
out
of
idea
scales,
so
we
have
better
access
to
it
and
it
gets
us
using
cardano's
own
native
technology
and
then
provides
a
model
that
can
be
replicated
elsewhere
in
the
world
which
really
supports
the
further
adoption
of
cardano.
So
I
just
wanted
to
as
I'm
hearing
these
really
excellent
and
interesting
ideas
around
what
should
be
part
of
the
ca.
Onboarding
and
registration
process
explain
my
vision
of
how
that
fits
into
what
I'm
hoping
to
accomplish
with
the
decentralized
identity
tool.
A
Okay,
good,
so
thank
you,
everyone
for
that
merrick.
Do
you
think
that
we
came
to
a
conclusion?
That
is
a
response?
A
N
From
what
I
hear,
it
may
be
a
good
learning
point,
but
definitely
not
the
the
way
we
should
go,
because
there
is.
P
A
Maybe
we
get
in
the
conversation
we
find,
we
find
the
low-hanging
fruit.
That's
actually
adds
value
here
to
this,
to
the
prevention
and
the
improvement
process,
and
then
I
think
it
is
a
much
broader
discussion
that
we
can
have
over
time.
Hopefully
we'll
we
have
the
things
that
that
danny
has
gone
over
today
and
what
and
what
we're
putting
in
place
as
a
community
and
just
are
anticipating
it.
Maybe
we
have
the
discussion,
come
to
some
consensus
and
then
make
sure
we're
in
line
with
with
the
timeline
for
for
danny
tommy
go
ahead.
L
N
Of
approach,
no
no,
no
just
wanted
to
increase
quality
of
the
cas
because,
as
you
as
you
said,
even
the
cas
who
are
since
fund
four
or
found
five,
their
quality
may
be
still
low.
I'm
not
saying
it's
a
common
case,
but
it
may
happen.
So
maybe
if
we
put
more
pressure
on
quality
at
the
at
the
start
of
the
stage,
then
we'll
end
up
having
better
assessments
during
the
asset
stage.
A
A
It
sounds
like
it
sounds
to
my
sense
of
this
is
that
we
can.
We
can
accomplish
this
through
a
discussion
and
that
maybe
we
we
take
that
as
a
as
a
direction
in
the
future
is
that
sort
of
can
I
get
like
thumbs
up
and
nods?
Is
that
the
feeling
yeah?
Okay?
Great?
Thank
you
so
fantastic
guys
we're
covering
a
lot
of
stuff
here
in
the
in
the
fastest
45
minute
meeting
we've
ever
had
so
scott
you're
up
scott.
Thank
you
for
everyone
for
that
input.
V
Hey
everybody,
I'm
scott,
I'm
not
a
communications
group.
I
don't
know
if
y'all
know,
but
finding
information
is
rather
difficult.
Maybe
some
of
y'all
don't
know
that,
but
I
know
that
firsthand
and
I've
been
here
for
six
months
at
every
town
hall
and
pretty
much
every
swarm
meeting.
So
the
the
goal
is
to
actually
set
up
like
a
centralized
platform
for
like
a
landing
page,
so
to
speak
for
cas
vcas.
Anything
revolving
around
the
the
ca
structure
on
catalyst
and
the
goal
is
support.
V
I
want
to
set
up
and
utilize
so
right
now
the
platforms
in
mind
are
our
github,
gitbook
and
discord.
Telegram
is,
I
know,
a
lot
of
y'all
probably
started
off
the
community
in
telegram.
Telegram
is
super
hard
to
follow,
especially
when
you
wake
up
and
there's
2500
messages
you
gotta
filter
through
so
discord
for
right
now
and
and
that'll
be
for,
like
kind
of
like
if
people
want
to
get
involved,
discord
be
a
a
place
to
do.
V
Async
meetings
to
where,
like
a
meeting
is
open,
a
voice
channel
is
open
for
a
certain
number
of
hours
and
that
way
it
offsets
for
people
in
different
time
zones.
As
far
as
the
github
goes,
I
know
some
people
have
issues
with
github
as
far
as
being
too
technical.
V
The
goal
on
that
is
to
actually
create
some
some
some
short
video
clips.
I
know
qa
dao,
I
think
steven
put
together
one
for
a
github
tutorial
and
the
the
goal
is
to
like
break
it
down
and
condense
it
and
make
it
in
smaller
chunks,
if
possible,
for
consideration
of
people
in
underdeveloped
countries
where
data
might
be
held.
V
A
good
book
and
get
help
will
be
tied
together,
but
the
the
it'll
be
they'll
all
be
tied
together,
but
get
book
will
be
like
the
simpler
version,
a
simple
place
for
information
to
be
to
be
posted
for
the
broader
community
and
at
least
with
this,
with
the
central
with
the
central
landing
hub
or
with
the
central
landing
hub
all
requires
would
be
influencers
and
everybody
else
who
has
a
community
around
them
to
actually
provide
that
link
instead
of
using
google
docs
telegram
slack
idea
scale.
V
I
mean,
of
course,
there's
some
groups
that
still
need
those
for
internal
communications.
I
understand
that,
but
there's
a
huge
community
out
there
that
nobody
cares
about
people
say
they
do,
but
there's
a
huge
community
out
there
that
is
unreached
and
untouched
and
they
don't.
There
are
people
that
have
been
here
for
for
five
years
or
since
cardona
was
originated
and
never
knew
anything
about
catalyst
circle
and
we're
already
in
version
three,
and
so
that's
that's
how
the
communication
is
is
not
there.
I
know,
there's
effort
put
into
it.
V
I
mean
I
do
appreciate
everybody,
that's
hearing
catalyst
and
the
town
hall
after
town
hall
and
the
swarm,
but
there
there
are
other
people
out
there.
Besides,
the
200
plus
people
that
are
involved
and
the
the
people
in
telegram.
So
that's
the
goal
is
to
actually
that's
the
goal
of
the
group
that
I'm
in
is
actually
create
that
platform
and
hopefully
build
it
up
to
where
it
will
be,
that
template
that
other
catalyst,
reps
can
or
circle
reps
can
use
down
the
road.
V
Maybe
it's
something
that
the
community
will
will
use
and
continue
to
latch
on
to
and
access
the
capabilities
of
that
platform
instead
of
instead
of
the
the
fractured
platforms
that
we
have
now
with
information
in
various
locations,
it
would
just
be
nice
to
have
information
one
place
or
at
least
links
categorized
to
where
the
community
can
come
and
say,
where's
the
ca
where's,
the
ca
guidelines
go
to
the
discord,
go
to
the
github
there.
V
V
They
can
be
answered
every
I'm
sure
people
are
familiar
with
discord,
they'll
be
there
will
be
short
videos
on
discord
as
well,
because
there
are
some
people
who
don't
like
discord.
For
some
reason.
I
know
discord
has
been
having
issues
lately,
I
think,
with
their
upgrades
and
stuff,
but
the
biggest
one
of
the
complaints
I
heard
is
notifications
and
notifications
just
requires
a
simple
video
to
show
people
how
to
set
up
their
notifications
in
discord
and
that'll
minimize
the
the
banners
that
basically,
the
notifications
that
you
get
that
annoy
you
so
badly.
V
I'm
I'm
a,
I
think,
I'm
I'm
in
a
hundred
servers
and
I'm
not
annoyed
at
all,
because
I
have
my
I
have
my
discord
set
up
properly
and
discord
is
new
to
me
five
months
ago,
and
so
that's
that's.
That's
pretty
much.
What
the
group,
the
communications
group,
is
going
to
be
doing
basically,
like
the
title,
says
more
than
happy
to
work
with
other
individuals
on
this.
If
you're
interested
in
enjoying
the
group
please
reach
out,
fill
out
that
form.
V
A
You
share
the
form,
please,
I
think
allison
now
out
different
form,
so
we
just
we
just
had
an
initial
purpose
meeting
for
that
group.
Yesterday,
it
was
a
collection
of
people
from
different
all
different
backgrounds.
People
brand
new,
some
people
on
this
call
were
on
it.
Just
a
like
an
initial
group
to
say:
does
this
process
work
so
that
we're
looking
for
a
communications
process?
A
That
also
gives
us
a
little
bit
of
project
management,
workflow
that
aligns
with
tools
that
are
familiar
to
the
community
and
where
we
need
to
where
we
need
to
help
people
with
a
leg
up
on
understanding
them
that
we
also
make
sure
we
provide
that
so
the
the
best
thing
for
the,
if
you're
interested
in
in
helping
with
this
it
definitely
needs
help,
but
definitely
it's
offering
a
model.
It's
offering
a
model
of
communication
that
already
sort
of
represents
what
the
what
this
group
does.
Naturally,
we
get
in
groups,
we
fix
stuff.
A
We
we
come
back
again,
so
there's
a
deck
of
slides
in
there
and
we're
going
to
look
to
set
up
we're
going
to
look
to
set
up
the
next
gathering.
For
that
one.
The
first
meeting
was
more
just
getting
general
impressions
and
feedback
from
a
collection
of
people
in
the
community
from
different
places,
so
we're
gonna
we're
gonna,
look
to
to
get
that
together.
So
go
ahead.
Scott.
V
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
say
real,
quick
I'll
share
my
my
contact
information.
If
anybody
wants
to,
apparently
we
don't
have
a
form
for
that
particular
group,
so
but
yeah
I'll
put
my
contact.
Information
in
the
chat
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
and
be
more
than
happy
to
to
discuss
in
more
detail.
F
So
part
part
of
that
sorry
to
jump
in
you
know
our
communities,
all
of
them
are
struggling
with
this,
the
directory.
How
do
we
you
know
we're
used
to
a
phone
book
or
4-1-1
or
some
way,
google?
You
know
getting
our
information
there.
I
believe
this
is
happening
throughout
catalyst,
though
right
are
you
searching
this
out
and
and
people
already
coming
up
with
something
that
works,
that
we
can
work
with,
because
I
know
in
cardano
for
climate.
F
It
feels
like
we're
we're
having
to
reinvent
the
wheel,
but
what
we've
done
is
started
to
look
around
more
and
we're
finding
others
doing
this,
and
it's
like.
Oh,
my
goodness.
I
can
spend
my
time
doing
this
instead
of
reinventing
that.
So,
if
we
could
support
that,
I
know
we
even
have
a
education
piece
coming
up
in
the
the
the
task
for
them
is
to
find
out.
Who
else
is
doing
education,
and
what's
resources
are
already
there,
because
you
know
our
time
is
finite
and
spending
so
much
time
reinventing.
F
P
The
this
was
something
that
I
identified
as
well
back
in
fund
three
retrospective
and
and
I
put
my
hand
up
to
develop
that
community
site.
So
it's
it's
reminiscent
of
what
what
I
started
with,
but
I
found
it
difficult
to
get
community
engagement
while
and
I
went
off
on
other
tangents.
So
I'd
love
to
chat
with
you,
scott
and
and
I've
got
the
cadano
catalyst
website
already
up
and
running
and
I'd
be
happy
to
pass
it
over
or
or
discuss
future
direction
of
it.
P
I'm
still
experimenting
with
parts
of
it,
but
definitely
I'd
be
happy
to
get
more
engagement
and
and
pass
it
across.
It's
got
about
two
and
a
half
thousand
regular
views
per
month
at
the
moment,
but
it
would
be
great
to
expand
that
and
get
other
people
building
on
it
so
happy
to
chat
with
anyone.
Who's
interested.
P
It's
a
viewpress
site
currently,
but
we've
been
discussing
about
changing
it
to
a
wiki
so
that
it
can
be
community
updated
easier
because
at
the
moment
it
relies
on
github
issues
and
then
marked
down
incorporated
into
the
viewpress
site,
which
is
a
little
bit
clumsy.
Whereas
a
wiki
is
where
we've
decided.
It
might
be
easier
because
you
can
just
participate
directly
without
having
to
know
how
to
do
pull
requests
and
and
that
sort
of
stuff
so
amen.
P
That's
kind
of
the
experiment
that
I've
been
running
for
the
last
six
months
or
a
year
is
to
the
year
to
year,
but
it
had
I've
had
difficulties
getting
community
engagement
and
we
we're
developing
a
bounty
model.
I
mean
this
is
off
topic
for
ca
in
general,
but
we've
been
developing
a
bounty
model
to
reward
participation
for
the
development
and
building
of
that
site,
so
yeah.
But
let's
take
that
to
another
discussion.
P
Maybe
I'd
love
to
chat
with
you
guys
about
it,
where
I'm
up
to
and
and
how
I
can
pass
it
over
or
collaborate
on
it.
A
That's
that's
exact.
Thank
you.
So
much.
That's
exactly
the
point
of
these
like
sort
of
just
talks
that
we
then
can
come
back
together
throughout
the
weekend
so
melanie.
Maybe
it
makes
sense
melanie
for
us
to
just
not
have
you
entrenched
into
the
process
but
sit
in
on
some
of
them,
because
that
is
an
ultimate
goal
of
this
too,
that
we
create
processes
and
models
that
are
replicable
for
other
groups.
A
Circle
obviously,
is
a
natural
one,
but
you
know
we're
all
we're
all
forming
and
we
all
have
our
own
methods,
but
it's
sometimes
nice
to
have
like
a
little
bit
of
a
process
and
what's
learned
from
that
as
we're
developing
governance,
yeah.
F
So
get
the
connectors
involved
like
whoever
is
here
is
a
connector
with
the
feelers
out
in
the
community.
You
know
seeing
this
kind
of
stuff
of
problem
solvers,
that's
who
I
am
I
I
am
duplicatable
somebody
else
just
like
me
is
out
there
doing
this,
and
you
know
if
you're,
seeing
that
just
the
big
thing
is
to
find
out
who's
initiating
it
and
if
scott's
spearheading
this
and
you're
sending
people
out
to
look
and
then
all
the
information
comes
back
to
you
and
then
you
can
start
collaborating
on
that.
F
I
don't
know
that.
I
have
the
time
to
sit
on
this.
It's
I
want
to
know
what
goes
here
because
we'll
use
it
absolutely
we'll
use
it
and
support
it
in
whatever
way
we
can,
but
I
don't
know
that
I
can
add
much
value
to
it
other
than
when
I
think
of
something
I
will
send
it
your
way
I
was
trying.
I
was
trying.
A
O
Yes,
thank
you.
I
would
like
to
say
to
scott
that,
with
the
catalyst
school
we
are
working
on
the
website,
because
it
was
a
funded
proposal
and
basically
we
are
it's
almost
finished.
Probably
we
will
publish
by
the
end
of
the
week.
I
have
to
just
wrap
it
up,
but
the
mechanism
that
we
used
is
to
all
the
content
is
stored
in
a
git
book.
So
basically
everything
will.
O
It
is
also
published
on
github,
and
then
there
is
this
website
that
will
pull
all
the
content
and
it
will
present
it
and
integrate
also
with
other
material
material
in
the
website.
So,
for
example,
as
tommy
said
before
in
gitbook,
you
can
comment
on
on
articles,
but
in
the
website
of
the
catalyst
school
there
is
a
section
to
comment
on
the
on
the
various
articles
that
are
imported
in
gatebook.
O
So
this
could
be
another.
Another
piece
that
we
can
use
and
also
the
the
code
will
be,
will
be
open
source.
So
in
theory
we
can
just
replicate
it
to
another
graphic,
another
mechanism.
It
will
be
everything
it
will
be
published
on
github.
So
just
to
say
this.
V
Thank
you
lucio
and
everybody
else
who
commented
showed
interest,
and
I
want
to
say
what
what
kind
of
what
melanie
was
saying.
Also
it
this
you
know,
building
this
platform
and
providing
these
tools
and
these
templates.
It
really
doesn't
matter
unless
people
know
about
it,
and
that's
also,
and
that
is
super
important.
You
can
build
everything
that
you
want
to
in
cardano
and
it
does
not
matter
unless
the
public,
unless
the
broader
community
knows
about
it,
and
so
it
will.
It
takes
everybody
in
here
everybody.
V
Even
if
it's
something
that
you
read,
I
mean
I
encourage
everybody
to.
If
you
read
a
document,
you
find
it
valuable
or
useful.
You
know
pass
it
on
to
the
community.
Let
them
know
as
well
and
that's
that's
the
whole
goal.
I
mean
I
want
a
broader.
I
want
a
larger
and
I
want
the
the
broader
community
informed
about
everything.
Granted
it's
going
to
be
tough,
but
at
least
they
have
the
option
to
be
informed
and
they
can
pick
and
choose
what
they
want
to
be
informed
on
the
communication.
V
Side
of
this
is
strictly
catalyst,
nca
and
not
a
naughtiest
side
of
the
of
the
circle.
It's
not
that
it
can't
be
incorporated
with
other
with
other
groups
or
entities
and
like
lucio
was
saying
as
far
as
the
school
I
mean
yes,
I
want
everything
can
be
connected
together
to
where
it's
just
like
you
know,.
A
V
Come
here,
this
is
where
you
go
to
get
the
information
and-
and
I
know
I
know
there
are
some
things
out
there
like
like.
I
think
it's
called
the
essential
essential
cardano,
which
is
great,
but
it
doesn't
provide
any
information.
So
you
putting
a
link,
doesn't
tell
anybody
anything.
You
got
to
put
a
little
bit
of
a
little
bit
of
a
description
with
it
and
but
that's
all
thank
you
very
much.
A
Y
Yeah,
I
just
would
provide
a
big
context.
Thanks
about
scotland,
there's
already
a
lot
of
work
going
on
behind
the
scenes
between
people
who
were
previously
developing
community
tools,
but
now
work
together.
For
example,
I
work
together
with
lucio
and
sometimes
phil
on
open
source
training
is
now
going
to
go
end
up
also
being
on
the
catholic
school
website
when
it's
released
and
we're
all
working,
we're
all
realizing
that
we
need
to
now
aggregate
community
sources.
Y
Everyone
knows
this,
but
it's
going
to
take
time
to
take
the
existing
sources
that
people
have
built
up
like
phil
and
to
kind
of
cross
reference
them
and
integrate
them,
and
we
are
aware
of
this
and
also
responses.
Like
other
comments,
it's
not
about,
particularly
at
all,
it's
about
using
different
tools
and,
what's
appropriate,
so,
for
example,
and
also
there's
other
considerations
like
is
the
tool
open
source
and
in
the
context
of
of
catalyst.
This
is
also
an
important
consideration,
so
you
know
tours
like
it.
Y
Book
are
not
always
than
appropriate
for
some
things:
they're
good
for
documentation,
but
they're,
not
necessarily
good
for
overall
necessary
collaboration
or
communication.
Sometimes
for
the
top
level.
You
need
aggregation
in
the
website
and
then
you
need
a
workflow
and
that's
really
where
resources
come
in
for
time
and
when
you
need
to
put
in
the
things
that
work
like
a
lot
of
the
documentation
stuff
that
I
do.
Y
You
know
that
lives
there.
You
know
this
is
all
about
ideation
and
that
may
be
more
appropriate
for
ramiro
board.
Look
at
what
devo
does
with
his
proposal
workshops.
That's
more
about
ideation,
it's
not
so
much
about
documentation,
and
then
you
get
into
things
like.
How
do
you
manage
problems,
issues
that
arise
in
the
community?
Y
That's
more
appropriate
for
an
issue
management
system
like
github
github
has
accessibility
issues
but
there's
ways
to
create
a
workflow,
so
people
who
don't
able
to
use
github
connect
can
access
that
through
vehicle
form,
aggregation
or
through
training.
You
know
so.
A
lot
of
this
is
understanding,
you
know,
is
partly
to
communicate
the
tools
that
are
available
to
show
what's
possible
and
then
to
put
proposals
that
can
fund
that.
So
that's
what
I
would
suggest.
A
Fantastic,
so
to
that
point-
and
that's
maybe
a
great
button
for
that
conversation-
is
really
would
encourage
so
that
what
what
scott
and
this
group
has
been
working
on
is
how
do
we
recognize
that
there's
an
issue?
First
of
all,
how
do
we
find
where
we
can
communicate
an
issue?
Recognize
it
evaluate
it,
whether
it
needs
to
become
an
initiative,
that's
solved.
A
How
do
we
have
someone
take
ownership
and
where
is
that
collaboration
emerging,
so
that
people
who
want
to
contribute
to
it
can
find
it
in
the
same
spot
and
that
should
rise
and
fall
with
the
creation
and
solution
of
of
some
of
the
issues
here
and
determining
these
tools?
Certainly
not
everything
is
going
to
be
exciting
for
everyone.
A
Certain
people
are
going
to
like
certain
other
things,
but
we
do
have
to
find
a
consensus
on
being
able
to
being
able
to
collaborate
and
work
on
things
together
and
then
also
the
archiving
is
an
important
piece.
So
I
just
want
to
encourage,
if
you're
interested
in
this
and
it
excites
you
and
you've
raised
your
hand
to
be
involved
in
it
or
you've
been
working
on
it
and
you're
excited
to
just
give
input
on
what
you
have
found.
A
The
historical
knowledge
of
this
group
is
so
important,
but
we
also
need
to
be
able
to,
and-
and
we
also
need
to
be
able
to
archive
things
afterwards,
so
we
can
retain
that
historical
knowledge,
the
current
knowledge
of
historical
knowledge
for
the
future,
so
please
reach
out
to
scott
scott's,
going
to
sort
of
manage
getting
the
next
group
together
and
maybe
individual
conversations
as
well.
A
Thank
you
and
just
a
personal.
Thank
you
to
stephen.
You
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
me,
helping
me
and
vanessa
too
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
me.
Helping
me
understand
these
tools
and
how
they
might
work.
So,
hopefully
we
can
pick
something
that
encourages
enough
people
to
to
be
able
to
use
them
as
we
go
jose.
A
A
A
Shoot:
okay,
jose
this!
This
space
is
yours:
when
you
come
when
you
come
back,
put
your
hand
up
when
you're
back,
I'm
not
sure
if
you
got
called
into
something
else,
because
we're
a
little
bit
past
the
original
time.
You
thought
you
were
gonna
be
talking,
but
I
just
want
to
daniel
and
and
jose
have
been
managing
the
challenge
team.
A
So
they're,
good,
they're
point
people
for
those
of
you
who
are
submitting
proposals
to
be
able
to
submit
proposals
to
our
community
advisor
improvements
thanks
tommy
there,
where,
if
you're
submitting
a
proposal,
they
are
your
great
people.
A
Z
Yeah
hi
sorry,
I
had
to
leave
so
I'm
probably
under
my
bicycle
tour.
This
is
our.
This
is
our
first
reporting
from
a
bicycle.
Probably
oh.
AA
Yeah
yeah
not
much
it's
not
gonna,
take
long.
We
have
the
12
placeholders
or
portal
going
on
there.
Conversation
is
pretty
much
the
same
thing
that's
been
going
on
here
today,
so
this
being
a
particular
challenge
for
cas.
Basically,
so
the
the
wider
conversation
has
not
picked
up
as
much
so
it's
basically
the
same
people
has
been
here
and
maybe
a
few
more
people,
but
I
don't
think
that
I
have
much
to
add
to
what
you
heard
here
today.
AA
AA
I
had
the
intention
of
inviting
all
of
you
to
join
the
conversation
there,
but
since
we
are
agreed
that
the
conversation
is
gonna
go
on
discord,
I'd
say
that
we'd
rather
go
there
and
and
have
the
conversations
and
the
the
meetings
that
we
agreed
to
have
next
week
there.
So
we
won't
be
promoting
the
telegram
anymore.
A
I
think
that's
on
that's
the
agenda.
Oh,
I
want
to
point
out
at
the
at
the
bottom
of
the
agenda.
George,
a
few
of
us
collaborated
with
george
on
love,
grove
on
his
categorization
core
categories.
Ideas
really
interesting.
He's
got
a
fantastic
and
thorough
gift
book
on
there.
So
take
a
look
at
that.
He
had
a
few
ways
that
he
posted
that
would
be
helpful
to
him.
So
if
you're
going
to
dive
into
that
really
interesting,
I
linked
the
new
documents
from
danny
in
there
as
well
at
the
bottom.
A
If
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
take
a
look
at
them
they're
there-
and
I
think
that
is,
I
think-
that's
it
for
today.
We,
this
is
the
point
where
we
would
chronologically
have
open
discussion.
We've
had
a
lot
of
that.
Maybe
it's
unavoidable
to
have
it
along
the
way
and
and
that's
good.
I
think
a
lot
of
things
got
covered
here.
Is
there
anything
that
let's
just
make
some
I'm
going
to
make
some
space
for
anything
that
wants
to
be
talked
about
or
or
any
issues
that
need
to
be
thought
about.
A
Go
ahead,
fill
your
hands
up
and
then
melanie.
P
Yes,
so
I
did
want
to
bring
up
the
vca
process.
I
don't
know
if
it's
if
we've
got
energy
to
do
that
now
or
whether
we
should
continue
that
next
week,
but
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
about
some
work
that
a
vca
did
alex
where
he
actually
did
some
analysis
of
the
vca
responses
and
he
came
up
with.
I
can't
remember
the
exact
numbers,
but
it
was
in
the
teens.
I
think
17
vcas
did
95
of
the
work,
which
is
quite
that's,
not
really
ideal.
P
So
he
did
quite
a
lot
of
work
and
I
discussed
with
him
a
couple
weeks
ago
about
looking
to
implement
his
statistical
analysis
as
a
review
process
during
the
vca
process.
So
after
vcas
do
it,
it
gets
run
through
this
statistical
analysis
and
if
you
are
too
many
standard
deviations
away
from
the
away
from
the
mean,
then
you
get
precluded
because
your
the
value
of
your
reviews
is
not
high.
P
So
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
in
the
discord
about
that
early.
So
there's
the
statistics
available,
there's
the
discussion
and
then
I
also
brought
up
that
we
could
bring
in
a
a
curved
reward
so
that
the
more
you
do,
after
a
certain
point,
it
inflections
to
get
less
reward
to
an
asymptote.
But
that's
been
a
bit
controversial.
So
I
did
want
to
discuss
that
in
more
detail
with
with
a
with
a
group
of
people
to
see
where
we
get
to.
P
Maybe
we
can
have
a
show
of
understanding
whether
we
want
to
do
that
now
or
whether
we
want
to
look
at
that
later
or
something
because
it's
kind
of
different
from
the
v
from
the
ca
process,
but
it
had.
We
haven't
really
adjusted
the
vca
process
since
we
implemented
it
so
it
does.
It
needs
an
overhaul
to
to
make
it
more
valuable.
I
think
tommy.
L
One
thing
is
that
I
think
we
need
to
somehow
reward
these
people
like
navid
and
alex
and
lucio,
and
whoever
are
going
to
do
the
scam
busting
for
us.
So
we
don't
end
up
with
all
those
things
because
for
me
at
least
the
entire
fund
7
was
spent
on
analyzing
analyzing
analyzing,
trying
to
figure
out
who's
trying
to
game
the
system.
So
there
was
no
real
effort
from
my
side
to
actually
do
the
vca
work.
L
P
Yeah
and
then
I
guess
my
point
comes
back
to
that-
we
need
to
communicate
this.
So
if
you
decide
to
be
a
vca
and
that
this
process
is
in
place,
then
people
need
to
know
about
it,
because
this
work
he
did
for
the
last
funds
but,
as
I
pointed
out
to
him
and
others,
we
can't
just
roll
it
over
the
top.
If
no
one's
informed
that
that's
the
process,
so
we
had
last
fun.
M
So
I
think
the
same
the
same
process.
Sorry,
I'm
supposed
to
jump
in
that
raising
my
hand
and
the
same
process
applies
right.
So
there's
a
section
in
the
in
the
ca
guidelines
for
vcas,
which
is
kind
of
two
liners
two
lines
at
the
moment
says
you
want
to
be
a
vca
click
here,
so
that
needs
fleshing
out.
So
I
think,
having
that
similar
guidance
and
rules,
if
we
want
to
call
the
rules
for
vcas
in
in
that
same
guide,
is
the
is
the
way
to
go
and
everyone's
clear
on.
P
M
P
Is
it
sorry
go
ahead
and
then
also
I
just
as
we're
discussing
it,
it'd
be
interesting
to
hear
people's
ideas
about
the
adding
in
the
two
two
previous
funds
as
a
ca,
successful
ca
instead
of
just
the
one.
So
anyone
got
any
comments
on
that.
P
I've
been
being
eligible
for
payment
because
of
that
lottery
system
and
all
that
stuff,
but
basically,
at
the
moment
it's
just
if
you've
had
that
once
then
you're
vca
that
that's
as
easy
as
it
is.
So
I'm
saying,
if
just
to
make
it
a
little
bit
harder
this
time
without
going
too
much
into
it.
We
could
say
you
need
to
have
done
two
of
these
to
be
able
to
be
successful
in
for
this
fund
or
implemented
for
the
next
fund.
Just
just
as
an
example
I
mean
I
think,
going
forward.
P
We
need
to
make
it
more
complicated.
We
need
to
make.
I
mean
the
vcas
can
have
a
very
detailed
reputation
model
attached
to
them,
but
that
we're
not
ready
for
that
for
this
fund.
But
how
do
people
feel
about
adding
that
little
extra
bump
in
there?
That
says
too
too
successful?
Well,.
L
H
Mark
do
you
have
any
comment,
because
I
don't
have
a
good
visibility
into
it
and
another
element
how
you
could
actually
do.
It
is
instead
of
looking
at
how
many
funds
you
participated
at.
Perhaps
there
is
a
minimum
threshold
of
how
many
reviews
you
had
to
do
to
date
as
well.
That
allows
you
like
to
to
create
like
a
track
record.
Okay,
you've
gone
through
as
many
valid
assessments
that
you've
made
so
now
you've
reached
the
level
okay.
Now
we
can
say
that
you've
seen
enough
examples
to
actually
go
back
and
do
the
vca
work.
H
That's
also
potentially
one
of
the
ways
it
could
be
approached
and
I'm
sure
there
is
some
negative
to
it
as
well.
But
I
don't
know
if
we
have
marek
still
here
with
us.
N
Yeah
yeah
I'm
here
just
trying
to
to
remember
what
was
mike
and
protocol
team
working
on
because
they
were
thinking
about.
How
can
we
improve
becoming
vca
and
yeah.
A
Does
it
does
it?
Would
it
make
sense
for
us
phil
for,
like
the
group,
navito
lutio
tommy,
any
of
us
who
we
could
get
together
on
discussion
and
bring
that
back
as
more
of
a
deep
dive
next
week.
M
M
What
the
draft
mvp
looks
like
does
it
need
community
input
or
they're
just
going
to
implement,
so
that
was
one
of
the
agreed
agreed
actions
to
implement
the
fund
date.
H
Let
let
me
circle
back
with
the
team
where
they
already
are,
with
it
and
I'll
try
to
share
what
there
is
like
a
skeleton
of
it.
So
maybe
we
can
still
pitch
in
a
bit
of
feedback
for
any
adjustments
that
are
quick
wins
for
this
iteration
as
such,
but
I
don't
have
the
answer
right
now,
but
I
took
the
note
then
I'll
circle
with
the
with
the
guys.
That's
perfect:
it's
not
ready
for
fun.
W
Lot
here
go
ahead,
yeah,
sorry,
just
on
you
know,
looking
at
vcas
with
the
discussions
that
they're
going
to
be
had,
I
I
think
it's
definitely
worth
looking
at
a
sort
of
a
a
more
long-term
approach,
because,
obviously,
as
as
this
project
scales,
the
same
discussion
is
going
to
be
heard
again
and
again,
because
you
need
vca's
there
to
do
the
job,
but
but
as
more
and
more
people
are
involved,
the
I
think
the
criteria
to
become
a
vca
needs
to
to
get
tougher
so
that
you
get
the
better
and
more
experienced
people
sort
of
involved
from
the
start.
W
So,
rather
than
just
saying,
for
you
know
fun
nine
we're
going
to
do.
You
know
have
two:
you
need
sort
of
two
funds
on
jubal
as
a
ca.
Actually,
maybe
look
at
putting
a
scaled
system
in
looking
at
the
next
10
funds
to
cut
out.
I
know
it
might
have
to
be
revisited
but
to
cut
out
because
there's
going
to
be
the
same,
conversation
come
up
again
and
again.
A
It
does
seem
like
this
is
a
good
like
sub-circle,
that
forms
and
and
reforms
and
adds
and
has
and
has
and
to
steven's
point
here
in
the
chat
that
we
create.
What
in
github
is
the
prioritized
problem,
but
really
is
an
initiative
to
continue
to
improve
this,
and
this
group
could
come
together
and
disband
regularly.
So
I
think
that's
a
that's
an
excellent
point
and
certainly
one
that
we're
going
to
need
in
the
long
term.
A
A
That
would
be
helpful
to
have
you,
okay,
I'm
I'm
sensing
the
meeting
fatigue,
so
I
think
we
should
start
to
bring
it
to
a
close
here
and
well
so
we'll
plan
to
come
back
next
week,
we'll
make
the
vca
discussion
top
of
it
and
we'll
we'll
have
some,
hopefully
solutions
next
time,
hopefully
we'll
have
also
accomplished
whatever
updates
we
want
to
make
for
the
cas
and
we'll
have
a
couple
more
meetings
planned
or
under
our
belt
for
these
things,
so
we
can
keep
moving
them
forward.
A
I
really
appreciate
thank
you,
danny
and
merrick
for
coming
and
giving
us
the
updates
that
you
did
and
sharing
your
time
and
to
each
of
you
who
has
taken
this
time
for
this
meeting
really
fantastic
to
get
to
come
together
here.
Please
just
reach
out
to
me.
If
you
have
anything
that
you
think
needs
to
be
added
here,
I'm
gonna
try
to
keep
keep
this
kind
of
an
agenda
with.
A
You
know
points
on
it
so
that
unless
we
have
a
big
thing
to
discuss,
something
happens
and
that
should
keep
us
maybe
continuing
to
be
organized
and
also
creative,
as
we're
solving
some
of
these
problems
all
right.
Thank
you
guys.
So
much
we'll
see
you
next
time
and
appreciate
everyone
and
we'll
see
you
next
week,
if
not
before.