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From YouTube: F8 Problem & Solution Sensing Pt 2, April 20, 2022
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A
A
Welcome
everyone,
thanks
for
being
here,
nice,
robust
group,
excited
to
get
into
conversations
with
all
of
you
mercy
and
I
are
were
to
joint
hostess,
but
she
had
a
an
unavoidable
situation
come
up
that
she
is
attending
to
so
vanessa
and
amelia
are
here
as
members
of
her
subcircle
and
also
just
fantastic
members
of
catalyst
to
help
sort
of
just
help
our
conversation
along.
So
to
give
you
some
backstory
to
the
question
of
the
purpose
of
this
meeting
is
two
or
three:
it
was
march
30th.
A
We
had
an
aftertown
hall
joint
after
town
hall,
because
we
noticed
through
the
catalyst
process
like
we
do
every
fund
that
there
were
some
things
that
could
be
improved.
Some
things
that
the
at
the
from
beginning
to
end
that,
if
we
thought
about
collectively,
we
would
be
able
to
find
things
that
were
implementable
and
find
ways
to
just
present
the
opportunity
for
a
solution
in
catalyst.
That's
also
always
a
little
bit
self-driven.
So
some
things
we
can
just
start
out
and
work
on.
Some
things
will
require
more
of
a
process
like
a
proposal
process.
A
Some
things
require
collaboration
with
iog,
and
so
we
just
started
this
conversation
of
looking
at
and
sensing
those
things
and
being
really
thoughtful
about
ways
that
we
might
provide
solutions
for
those
things
and,
as
a
result
of
that
conversation,
we
took
the
recorded
session
as
well
as
a
document
that
was
much
had
its
origins
in
the
chat
from
that
conversation,
and
we
made
a
an
overall
sort
of
a
collective
sensed
issues
document
and
also
a
discord
channel
in
swarm,
so
that
the
group
could
continue
to
talk
about
it,
which
I
think
for
the
most
part
we
have.
A
So
we
agreed
that
we
would
follow
up
in
three
weeks
with
the
second
after
town
hall,
and
that
is
this
after
town
hall,
if
you're
not
in
the
original
after
town
hall.
Don't
worry
because
there's
plenty
of
stuff
to
talk
about
still,
and
it's
also
always
a
little
bit
of
a
what
we
want
to
facilitate
here.
The
conversation.
A
But
it's
up
to
the
community
really
what
things
we
choose
and
hopefully
we
can
come
together
and
maybe
have
a
little
bit
of
guidance
as
far
as
how
we
think
about
which
things
should
present
themselves
chronologically,
based
on
what
we
can
actually
solve
for
and
based
on.
What
might
need
to
be
something
that
comes
along
in
the
future.
A
So
I'll
stop
there
and
I'll
just
open
for
vanessa
to
comment
as
well,
because
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
how
to
frame
this
meeting
without
directing
it.
I
think
it's
a
really
important
part
of
this
process
that
it's
very
much
an
open
discussion,
but
also
that
by
the
end
of
it,
those
who
are
enthusiastic
about
certain
things
or
those
who
are
already
working
on
certain
things
can
find
collaboration
and
can
have
a
path
to
actually
implement
some
of
the
things
for
fun
9.
That
would
make
a
big
difference
so
I'll.
B
I
think,
let's
just
go
for
it.
Let's
just
have
the
free-for-all
in
particular,
to
say:
is
there
anybody
here
who
is
not
aware
of
the
discord
group
that
came
out
of
the
last
session,
because
we
can
put
a
link
in
the
chat
if
people
need
it,
but
I
think
everyone's
there
is
they
probably.
A
B
Cool
I
mean
looking
at
the
document,
there's
certain
things
that
have
emerged
as
creating
the
most
comments
and
the
most
ideas,
but
they're,
not
necessarily
the
most
important
things
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
do
a
bit
of
prioritizing
because
there
was
a
lot
that
came
after
out
of
the
last
session.
That's
my
feeling-
and
I
think
maybe
it's
about
what
people
think
is
the
most
urgent
things,
the
things
that
we
think
we
can
actually
have
some
impact
on
for
fun,
nine.
B
You
know,
but
I
think
the
main
thing,
if
I'm
going
to
say
anything
just
speaking
as
like
part
of
the
funded
proposal
sub
circle,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
hear
it
from
all.
The
perspectives
like
cas
bcas
funded,
proposes
voters.
So
anybody
when
you're
saying
anything,
just
have
a
think
about
how
it
affects
the
other
side
of
what
you
know,
you're
speaking
from
the
group
that
you're
part
of
so
just
think
about
how
it
affects
the
other
groups
as
well.
That's
all.
A
Very
good
and
how
we
went
about
organizing
this
is
we
did
it
chronologically
by
the
process,
so
we
started
all
the
way
up
here
with
challenge
teams.
We
started
ultimately
with
sort
of
a
review
of
positive
things
from
fund
eight.
A
Then
we
had
some
comments
on
the
challenge
process,
proposal,
process,
ca
and
vca,
and
then
we
had
just
a
comment
or
two
about
auditing,
but
considering
that
the
considering
that
the
proposal
process
and
the
challenge
teams
process
will
kick
things
off
and
then
we
go
through
the
sort
of
we
go
through
the
process
over
again,
it
might
be
helpful
to
really
think
about
the
proposer,
the
proposer
section
as
well
with
some
emphasis
here,
since
it's
coming
up
as
soon
as,
but
I
also
like
reinforce
what
vanessa
just
said
about.
A
D
Yeah,
but
it's
already
said
that
everything
you
say:
it's
gonna
set
the
direction
and
for
me
I
also
feel
like
it's,
maybe
at
first
a
question
of
its
direction
is
still
necessary
in
a
sense
that
we
don't
want
to
go
into
issue
and
then
plot
it
into
a
timeline
or
a
product,
but
instead
look
at
things
as
a
whole,
as
you
presented
right
now
say
like
we
could
start
as
a
challenge.
D
But
now
I
think
maybe
there
is
also
why
I
would
say
maybe
proposer
is
a
better
starting
point,
because
the
proposals
are
challenge
settings,
because
we
have
two
distinctions
of
proposals
and
perhaps
going
to
the
roots
in
a
sense
like.
If
we
create
the
challenge
setting
then
issues
there
will
kind
of
go
into
proposals,
then
proposal
issues
what's
gonna
come
up
will
end
up
in
case
so
in.
E
So
I'm
I'm
just
jumping
into
the
conversation
quite
quite
late
right
to
this
conversation
and
I've
just
run
through
the
sensing,
the
sensing
document
and
one
issue-
and
I
don't
know
if
I'm
it's
the
right
time
to
mention
one
issue
that
I
face
with
with
catalyst.
E
The
people
in
in
the
community,
so
I
feel
a
little
bit
like
I'm,
I'm
a
little
bit
older
and
I
I'm
struggling
with
that.
E
Let's
say
even
in
the
the
cardinal
community
here
in
dubai,
most
of
most
of
the
people
in
the
group
we
have
in
the
middle
east
group,
we
have
about
200
and
you
know
nadim
nadeem's
organized
it
and
we
have
a
what's
up
group
and
sometimes
I
feel
like
I'm
the
old-timer
here,
but
one
of
the
issues
that
I
faced
as
a
community
advisor
and
I
have
a
lot
a
lot
of-
let's
say
insight
to
offer
to
digital
because
that's
my
field,
I'm
a
digital
transformation
expert.
So
I
look
at
you
know.
E
I
look
at
some
of
these
projects
and
you
know
I
can
see
some
of
the
feasibility
issues
and
and
so
forth.
So
I
went
and
I
and
I
and
I
assessed
about
33
different
proposals
and
they
all
got
rejected
and
by
the
by
the
vcas
and
I'm
very,
very
economical
with
my
words.
E
But
if
someone
had
maybe
read
them,
they
would
have
seen
that
they
had
some
value.
So
I'm
still
trying
to
understand
how
to
go
about
and
whether
I
would
do
this
again
I
invested
about,
I
don't
know
15
20
hours,
you
know
assessing,
and
I
had
some
free
time,
but
I'm
I'm
just
wondering
you
know
this
process
and
if
anybody
can
provide
feedback,
I
I
might
have
missed
some
of
the
because
I
attended
catalyst.
School
tivo
was
there,
and
so
I
tried
to
understand
the
process,
but
I
think
towards
the
end.
E
E
Sorry
sensing
document
that
saying
some
people
are
writing.
2
000
word
essays,
so
I
just
want
to
know
where.
Where
does
the
community
stand
on
on
this?
You
know
how.
F
E
How
can
the
vcas
audit
these
assessments
and
is
it
based
on
number
of
words
as
well
and
did
I
get
rejected
in
all
33,
because
I
only
had
two
proposals
that
had
more
than
250
words
per
per
category
of
those
three
categories?
B
Yeah,
I
don't
know
if
I
can
answer
that
completely,
but
I
think
I
can
say
that
it's
not
based
on
number
of
words,
but
it's
just
that.
I
think
vcas
have
noticed
quite
often
that
short
assessments
tend
to
be
either
bots
or
people
who
are
just
doing
it
by
wrote
and
haven't
read
the
proposal.
So
it's
the
old
thing
of
correlation
is
not
causation.
B
We
can't
assume
that
a
short
assessment
is
necessarily
dodgy,
but
I
think
people
do
tend
to
think
it
might
be,
and
so
I
don't
know
because
I
haven't
seen
your
assessments,
but
if
they
were
really
what
you
know,
if
they
were
everything
they
should
be,
and
they
were
just
short,
then
they
shouldn't
have
been
filtered
out.
But
that's
all
I
can
say.
E
Thank
you
vanessa.
I
I
don't
know
I
mean
I'm
I'll,
I'm
still
you
know
investigating
and
seeing
what
you
know
what
might
have
caused
that
for
all
of
them
to
be
rejected
and
and
I'm
still
finding
out
from
from
different
people
what
they
did
right
and
and
so
forth,
and
then
look
at
some
of
the
the
projects
that
I
voted
on.
I
I
think
one
thing
that
I
was
conscious
of
is
I
didn't
want
to.
I
didn't
vote
on
any
projects
that
I
thought
any
proposals
that
were.
E
I
didn't
assess
any
proposals
that
were
really
really
in
my
opinion.
You
know
not
feasible
and
just
because
they
were
outrageous
people
asking
for
crazy
numbers
and
and
not
providing
enough.
So
in
a
way
I
felt
guilty
not
giving
that
feedback
to
those
projects
that
were
really
like.
As
far
as
I
was
concerned,
poor,
I
wrote.
E
I
have
three
proposals
in
in
in
this
fund
and
obviously
I
didn't
assess
any
in
my
categories,
but
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
thinking
about
what
makes
a
good
proposal-
and
you
know
I
have
that
sense
of
ownership.
E
E
I
found
the
excel
sheet
with
all
the
assessments
I
was
able
to
find
where
mine
were,
I
kind
of
just
did
a
look
up
and
and
saw
and
found
them
based
on
the
33
that
I
had
assessed
and
they
were
just
all
rejected,
and
but
there
was
no
reason
given
so.
B
That's
really
demoralizing,
but
I
think
that
maybe
on
the
sort
of
personal
level
of
your
particular
assessments,
I
think
we're
still
small
enough
as
an
organization
as
a
as
a
catalyst
that
you
can
reach
out
to
individual
cas
and
just
go.
You
could
post
on
the
caa
channel
like
some
people
have
and
just
gone.
B
Can
somebody
have
a
look
at
these
and
just
tell
me
like,
if
there's
an
obvious
reason,
but
I
think
what
you
raise
is
the
wider
issue
of
it's
short
automatically
filtered
out
and
there's
stuff
in
in
the
comments
here
about
that,
but
I
think
you
know
there's
also
stuff,
I'm
sorry,
I'm
cutting
in
ahead
of
people
with
the
hand
up,
I'm
so
sorry,
but
I
just
want
to
say
I
think
there
is
stuff
about
length
of
proposals
as
well.
I
think
there's
something
in
the
document
about.
Should
there
be
word
limits.
E
A
Just
as
a
part
of
this
process
going
to
ask
when
we
move
to
someone
new
with
their
hand
up
all
right,
so
are
you
going
to
talk
about
this
issue
or
you're
going
to
raise
something
new?
Okay,
great?
I
think
it's
nice
to
just
let
exhaust
the
comments
on
it
before
we
move
to
a
new
topic.
Thanks
go
ahead.
G
Yeah,
I
was
wondering
again
about
the
vca
process,
because,
because
it's
it's
not
just
or
it
shouldn't
be
at
least
a
sense
to
send
that
one
person
just
says
okay,
this
is
this,
is
I
I
filtered
this
out,
because
it's
not
long
enough
or
something
and
then
or
how?
How
does
it
work?
Does
that
vcas
have
a
quality
assurance
together.
G
D
You
have
a
quickly
answered
that
I
think
right
now.
We
are
in
this
like
a
break
mode,
in
a
sense
that
these
vsa
requirements
kind
of
also
got
cramped
in
a
sense
that
we
have
now
even
less
visas
than
before,
and
I
think
this
kind
of
scrutiny
and
sense
of
the
rules
you
create
that
the
disincentives
for
vcs
and
assessors
will
now
create
a
layer
of
this
audi
j
who
now
gets
slashed
and
who
not.
Because
people
are
now
speaking
up,
they
do
see.
Oh,
I
don't
get.
My
results
cas
are
coming
up.
D
Why
I
got
filtered
out
all
of
my
work
and
now
you
have
the
audit
trail
of
the
small
number
of
people
who
are
actually
assessing,
and
you
can
see
and
go
now
to
the
person
and
ask
why
why?
What
did
you
do
that?
What
was
your
concern
and-
and-
and
I
think
this
takes
time
and
because
this
just
happened
right
now,
it
did
happen
last
fun
too,
but
there
was
so
much
more
other
stuff,
which
you
know
we
kind
of
addressed
this
time
and
I
feel
like
yeah.
D
Well,
I
couldn't
say
I
because
I
wasn't
really
safe
this
time
right,
not
deliverable
but
yeah,
so
yeah.
I
think
these
kinds
of
discussions
will
now
create
the
filter
to
make
these
things
happen
less,
where
assets
where
communities
are
actually
putting
a
lot
of
work
into
this
and
not
getting
recognized
or
compensated
or
not
or
guided
to
in
case,
if
they
make
mistakes.
G
Okay,
but
okay,
so
it's
just
an
open
problem,
but
because
I'm
wondering
and
on
this
ca
assessments
I
made,
I
saw
the
the
numbers
I
used.
The
voting
tool-
and
I
said
sorry
accessing
the
assessments
after
they
are
obsessed,
is
a
bit
of
a
trouble
too,
but
yeah.
I
found
out
that
that
my
assessments
were
assessed
five
times
at
least
so
yeah.
How
does
this
work?
If
you,
you
said
it's?
It's
still
a
problem,
but
we
had
seven
funds
with
vca
construction
working.
D
Yeah,
I
think
here
is
we
don't
have
like
a
team
who
is
doing
assessment,
so
we
encourage
that
every
vc
takes
that
as
all
the
assessments,
all
the
ten
thousand
ccs
and
now
figure
it
out
yourself.
How
do
you
filter
them
out
and
then
you
we
have
like
this
filing
document?
How
should
you
do
it?
How
you
should
put
your
thought
into
this,
but
there
are
different
people
different
time
perspectives.
They
have
some
people
have
only
a
few
hours,
but
they
want
to
do
a
lot
of
work.
D
They
have
like
statistical
analytical
skills
and
they
look
very
high
level
of
stuff
compared
to
all
of
these
assessments.
These
are
pretty,
I
don't
know
bad
or,
and
some
are
they
are
coming
to
here-
to
gain
the
system
just
quite
literally
and
like
I.
If
I
do
this,
I'm
most
likely
to
get
rewarded
the
most
and
some
people
most
likely
are
trying
to
find
the
like
middle
way
that
they
don't
get
detected,
but
they
don't
push
and
we
have
so
much
like
gaming
in
between
I'm.
D
A
I'll
just
add
in,
as
I
mentioned
here
too,
and
that
you
know
the
question
each
fund
new
things
arise,
we
grow
significantly.
New
tools
are
added,
new
processes
happen,
new
people
come
to
the
system
so
as
to
stevo
mentioned
we
solved
for
some
things.
The
group
solved
for
some
things
that
happened
in
fund
seven,
which
were
eliminated
here
in
fund
eight,
but
then
new
new
things
arise
and
new
challenges.
Some
new
things
come
into
place,
and
then
that
gets
evaluated.
A
It's
sort
of
part
of
this
process,
but
the
the
lesser
number
of
bca's
also
was
because
we
we
sacrificed
adding
volume
of
them
in
order
to
have
more
of
a
process
of
becoming
a
vca
in
this
fund
as
well.
So
these
are.
These
are
adjustments
that
happened
over
this
time
and
were
were
part
of
the
desire
to
not
put
so
much
in
place
that
you
make
the
structure
rigid
and
take
away
collective
contribution,
but
put
enough
in
place
that
you
prevent
things
that
could
really
disturb
the
process.
A
So
I'll
just
add
that
there
and
then
william
and
then
nabeed.
You
guys
have
your
hands
up
zoe.
Do
you?
Do
you
want
to
add
anything
to
that.
G
Yeah,
I
I
I'm
sorry
that
I'm
making
such
a
complex
thing
out
of
it,
but
my
question
and
after
that
I
will
take
my
hand
down
really.
How
does
the
vca
assessing
and
quality
assurance
work
in
means
of
how
is
it
communicated
as
those
groups
of
vcas
that
are
come
together
on
an
on
a
ca
assessment?
G
How
are
their
voices
like
managed
to
either
assess
the
assessment
collectively
as
excellent,
good
or
filtered
out?
I
I
don't
get
it
yet
and
if
you
could
explain
like
m5,
I
would
be
very
happy.
A
A
H
Yeah
things
may
disorient,
you
know,
so
you
see
process
is
to
prove
that
ca
did
their
job
accordingly
to
the
guidance.
So
when
we
have
this
assess
stage
in
the
idea
scale,
every
single
community
advisor
that's
signed
up
to
become
community
advisor,
assess
proposals
after
asset
stage.
We
are
exporting
all
the
assessments
in
the
file
and
we
are
creating
a
proposer
master
file
for
proposals
to
flag
bad
assessments,
because
this
is
a
very
helpful
insight
for
vcas
to
proceed.
H
So
then,
proposers
have
like
four
or
five
days
to
flag
bad
assessments
and
write
short
rational.
Why
that
or
this
particular
assessment
should
be
filtered
out
and
then
every
single
proposer
that
completed
the
work
they
have
to
send
back
their
files,
a
copy
of
their
files
to
us.
Then
we
are
aggregating
everything
in
one
vca
master
file
in
the
vca
master
file.
H
You
will
find
every
single
assessment
made
by
community
advisors
and
proposer
flags
with
rationales
next
to
the
assessment
that
is
being
flagged,
then
the
trump
community
advisor
is
supposed
to
make
copy
of
that
veteran
com.
Sorry
make
a
copy
of
that
vca
master
file,
review
all
the
assessments
and
or
not
all
review
as
many
assessments
as
vca
wants
to
and
review
it
and
flag
it
as
a
good,
excellent
or
filter
it
out.
H
H
What
what
are
the
rules
and
the
guides
basically-
and
they
have
10
to
12
days,
to
do
their
work
to
do
the
quality
assurance
of
the
assessments
mate
and
then
again
we
are
asking
all
the
vcas
to
send
copy
of
their
files
back
to
us,
and
then
we
are
merging
all
together
into
one
file
and
that
one
file
you
can
see
it
is
public
now
and
it's
called
vca
aggregated
file
there.
H
You
will
find
all
the
agreement
between
vcas,
because,
let's
assume
that
you've
wrote
one
assessment
and
your
assessment
has
been
reviewed
five
times
so
five
independent,
independent
vcas
checked
your
assessment
and
rated
it.
Every
single
vca
could
rate
it
differently.
H
One
could
think
that
this
is
perfect.
This
is
excellent.
One
could
think
that
it
should
be
filtered
out
and
then
we
are
taking
the
majority
of
votes.
So
let's
say
three
out
of
five
reviewed
your
assessment
as
a
good
one
as
an
excellent
and
one
as
a
filter
out.
So
the
final
score
of
your
assessment
will
be
good
because
majority
wins,
and
that
would
be
it.
G
A
C
Thanks
nadia,
so
in
response
to
kareem
I'm
with
you,
I
want
to
figure
out
a
little
bit
more
about
how
the
assessments
went.
If
someone
could
please
post
the
excel
file,
so
I
can
look
into
it.
That's
really
the
main
thing
that
I've
been
looking
for
has
been
feedback
regarding
the
efforts-
and
you
know
at
this
point
in
time
it's
a
reactive
situation
which
we
never
want.
We
never
want
to
be
in
a
situation
where
we
have
to
be
responding
to
something
we're
unsure
about
after
we've
put
in
significant
effort.
C
C
That
will
encourage
us
to
be
able
to
provide
the
best
possible
assessments
coming
into
fund
nine
and
beyond
that
we
will
be
motivated
because
we'll
have
the
feedback
that's
necessary
in
order
to
do
it
so
that
it's
quality-
and
it
really
is
more
so
about
the
proposal,
speaking
quality
and
fulfilling
the
the
requirements
for
cardano
to
grow.
That's
the
most
important
thing
is
to
see
the
growth
of
the
community
and
see
really
good
milestones
being
hit
and
deliverables.
C
Unbelievable
massive
of
assessments
would
be
to
somehow
provide
it
to
the
community
to
make
votes
and
and
keep
it
under
blockchain
make
all
the
feedback
on
their
blockchain.
So
at
any
point
in
time,
if
we
can
go
to
one
central
hub,
perhaps
this
exists,
so
you
know
link
it
and,
and
that
way
we
can
all
be
in
on
it
and
check
it
out.
The
idea
that
I
see
is
the
more
transparent.
C
This
becomes
the
more
quality
it
will
be,
the
more
people
that
are
involved
with
voting
and
just
integrate
integration
integrated
the
more
we'll
be
able
to
get
to
the
point
of
really
quality
proposals
coming
through
proactively.
C
Instead
of
coming
into
a
situation,
that's
more
so
reactive
and,
like
I
said
kareem,
I
share
the
sentiment
with
you
that
I
want
to
feel
like
I'm
doing,
an
effort
that
it's
going
to
be
not
only
recognized,
but
it's
going
to
help
the
proposals
go
through
so
that
we
can
see
cardona
grow,
that's
really
it!
So
I'm
going
to
check
this
link
now,
thanks
for
listening.
A
B
Yeah,
I've
just
got
a
couple
of
questions
that
I
want
to
raise
for
us
all.
First
of
all,
it's
something
that
I've
noticed
in
previous
rounds,
but
it
felt
more
so
this
time
did.
Anybody
else
feel
that
cas
were
kind
of
trying
to
trying
to
give
bland
reviews
or
even
positive
reviews
to
avoid
scrutiny
because
it
seems
like,
or
it
feels
like
negative
reviews-
attract
more
attention
from
vcas.
B
B
J
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
the
the
I
can't
remember
the
exact
requirements
for
the
ca
number
of
words
etc,
but
I
remember
being
a
little
bit
shocked
by
it
because
I
was
like
I
don't
have
enough
words
in
my
vocabulary
to
do
this,
and
so
this
time
I
only
assessed
a
handful
of
of
proposals,
and
so
I
thought
the
requirements
you
know
would
have
forced
me
to
just
throw
verbage
out
there.
J
K
Hi
dwayne
hi,
so
I've
been
at
this
for
a
while
I'd
like
to
say
that,
from
my
perspective,
fund
8
was
a
total
disaster.
K
You've
built
in
a
system
with
a
new
reputation
and
qualification
system
for
vcas
that
encourage
vcas
to
filter
out
as
many
proposals
as
possible.
This
gives
them
a
effectively.
You
create
an
old
boys
network
where
only
the
vcas
who
are
currently
vcas
by
filtering
other
people
out.
They
make
sure
that
nobody
else
can
join
the
club.
They
have
undue
control.
K
This
is
shown
by
43
out
of
the
85
vcas
eliminated,
filtered
out
over
40
of
the
proposals,
the
ca
assessments,
some
of
them
were
in
the
90s
like
this
is
insane
right.
If
a
group
of
80
people
are
able
to
quash
diverse
views
that
effectively
you've
created
a
broken
system
completely.
L
Yeah
I
I
want
to
add
to
that,
because
I
have
kind
of
the
same
feeling
that
it
was
already
a
bit
tricky
sort
of
the
whole
ca
thing
and
it
was
questionable
things
going
on,
but
I
feel
that
this
round
it
kind
of
pushed
beyond
the
point
and
like
there
were
some
things
that
happened
just
on
a
challenge
setting
that
I
proposed
that
was
pretty
questionable
and
then
I
started
looking
into
it,
and
I've
been
looking
into
the
data
ever
since,
and
it's
kind
of
like
yeah
a
lot
of
directions.
L
I
go
it's
those
kind
of
things,
just
some
people
just
getting
completely
filtered
out
and
you
look
at
the
assessments,
yeah
and
maybe
they're
short,
but
there's
no
reason
to
really.
I
don't
I
I
don't
see
why
they're
filtered
out
by
so
many
vcas
and
then,
if
you
look
at
some
of
the
vcas
doing
like
like
thousands
of
of
like
vca
assessments
right
and
then
thousands
of
those
are
filtered
out
of
very
short
assessments
right.
L
If
you
just
do
an
automatic
script
of
whatever
is
shorter
than
this,
and
I'm
going
to
do
it,
I'm
flagged
right,
who's.
Checking
that,
like
like
yeah,
who
is
checking
that
right,
that's
just
an
open
question.
I
guess
and
then
additionally
to
what
was
said
before,
is
that
there's
even
an
extra
incentive
because
there's
flash
assessments
right
so,
for
example,
on
the
challenge
that
I
proposed
there
were
six
assessments:
five
got
filtered
out
and
n4
got
added
by
vcas.
L
Regardless
of
this
dropping
the
score
quite
a
bit,
it's
also
just
extra
work
for
them
right:
extra
assessments
for
people
who
are
filtering
out
other
people,
and
it's
just
false
incentives
right,
even
if
those
people
don't
want
to
do
anything,
bad
they're,
incentivized
to
just
yeah
go
this
way,
and
I
think
it's
been
pushed
a
bit
too
far
and
in
general,
just
assessments
on
challenge
settings
to
me
doesn't
make
any
sense
right.
It's
like
what
do
you
it's
an
opinion
right,
it's
an
opinion
on
which
challenge,
but
that's
a
separate
thing.
A
Yeah,
so
all
relevant
comments.
I
think
the
purpose
of
this
group
of
getting
together
is
to
look
at
these
things
and
talk
about
how
we
will
respond
to
them
collectively.
So
this
is
the
purpose
of
this
conversation.
My
my
hope,
in
just
sort
of
facilitating
the
conversation
is
that
we
come
to
a
place
of
actually
having
something
to
to
decide
on
in
a
response
and
to
think
about
what
that
would
look
like,
especially
for
those
who
are
feeling
it's
really
not
serving
its
purpose.
So
I
hope
that
we
come
to
that
as
well.
G
Yeah,
I
just
thought
about
again
because
it's
not
sure
for
me
how
the
conflict
of
interest
gets
prevented
with
vcas,
because
I
know
that
see
you
can't
see
a
in
the
challenge
you
have
for
both
and
yeah.
I
wanted
to
ask
where
there
is
or
what
restrictions
there
are
for
vcas
and
whether
they
apply
for
both
a
possible
proposer
and
the
possible
ca.
H
H
M
M
Just
want
to
comment
a
couple
of
things,
so
it's
some
really
interesting
conversation
with
them
to
be
had
on.
On
the
back
of
dwayne
and
you're
on
my
screen,
you
know
sophie's
doing
the
sofas
comments,
but
just
before
I
get
that
just
a
couple
of
clarifications,
joey,
the
the
minimum,
the
minimum
limit.
M
There's
no
minimum
word
limit
for
for
for
assessments.
There
is
a
minimum
character
limit,
so
it's
only
150
characters,
which
is
what
I
don't
know
how
many
words
that
is,
but
it's
it's
it's
next
to
nothing.
What
we
saw
in
the
last
two
or
three
funds
was
really
anything
with
with
less
than
150
characters.
M
People
are
saying
it's
like
when
your
kid
comes
back
from
school
and
says
I
was
schooled
good
and
and
then
in
the
next
section,
good
and
the
next
section
good
and
my
tea
and
my
my
friends
beat
me
up
or
so
or
whatever
right
and
it
just
it's
just
not
giving
not
giving
any
value
to
the
voters
not
giving
any
value
back
to
the
back
to
the
proposal.
So
I
think
this
150
character
limit
across
all
three.
All
three
sections
of
the
assessment
was
put
in
place.
M
My
belief
is,
it's
still
it's
still
too
too
small
and
it
should
be
increased,
but
that's
probably
a
debate
we
need
to
have.
But
what?
What?
But
that's
the
that's
the
current
rule
and
to
kareem
on
your
I'd?
Look
at
your
I've.
Just
had
a
quick
look
at
your
assessments
based
on
you're
one
of
the
three
people
who
did
33..
So
I
think
I
managed
to
work
out
who
you
are
as
a
ca
but
happy
to
have
a
conversation.
M
I
did
in
general,
people
are
saying:
there's
not
there's
not
a
lot
of
value
to
the
voters
and-
and
the
rationale
is
not
it's
not
detailed
enough,
and
I
think
it's
probably
a
really
good
conversation
for
this
group
to
have
around
where
we've
come
from
in
terms
of
having
those
really
poor
assessments
previously,
and
and
have
we
gone
too
far,
or
are
we
getting
to
that
point
where
an
assessment
that
something
like
kareem
puts
in,
which
is
quite
quite
short
and
to
the
point
and
is
not
necessarily
the
the
thousand
character
of
the
2000
character
assessment
that
that
people
are
that
people
are
aiming
for?
M
I
think
that's
where
we
came
from
from
617,
let's
try
and
add
a
bit
more
rationale
across
the
different
across
a
different
section.
So
in
within
feasibility,
for
example,
you're
you're
assessing
resources,
budget
milestones
a
plan,
and
you
can't
do
that
in
five
or
six
words
or
even
one
sentence
right.
So
you
so
you're.
Looking
at
four
or
five
sentences,
which
automatically
gets
you
two
thousand
plus
characters.
M
A
M
The
flash
assessment,
so
in
flip
fund
seven,
we
had
flash
assessments
post
flash
assessment.
They
were
further
reviewed
by
vcas,
so
there
was
a
self
check
they
in
this
in
fun
date,
iog
decided
there
wasn't
enough
time
for
the
for
the
or
the
for
the
reviews
of
the
of
the
flash
assessments
so
effectively.
All
flash
assessments
got
given
a
good,
but
that
was
an
iog
decision
and
that
that
that,
in
my
view,
not
correct,
we
should
have
allowed
time
and
had
that
had
that
self
review.
M
So
there's
there's
a
couple
of
hundred
assessments
in
there
that
just
got
automatically
graded
as
good,
but
it's
probably
something
that
needs
to
be
brought
into
the
process
formally
because
we
just
change
from
one
seven
to
one
date
on
a
on
our
way
when
it
seems
that's.
Probably
apart
from
drain,
it
be
useful
to
see
your
analysis.
I
don't
know.
If
I
can,
I
can
connect
with
you
on
telegram.
M
K
Okay,
so
there
was
a
bunch
of
if
you
go
through
the
vca
rationales
they
all
gave
very
generic
ones,
doesn't
add
value
to
the
pro
to
the
voter,
something
to
that
effect.
So
in
this
one,
if
you
look
at
what
the
vcas
were
told
to
evaluate
on,
they
basically
went.
Even
if
you
wrote
you
know,
even
you
wrote
a
paragraph
or
more
like
none
of
mine
were
short
right.
They
would
say
it
doesn't
add
value,
because
whatever
reason
it
was
a
very
bland
sort
of
statement,
and
that
was
one
of
the
things
in
there.
K
K
So
the
strictness
of
the
interpretation
of
the
new
guidelines
was
well.
It
was
more
than
a
level
of
magnitude,
greater
right,
and
I
think
my
personal
opinion
is
it's
based
upon
the
new
reputation
system
and
that's
required
to
become
a
vca
all
right.
So
if
you
filter
out
more
people
and
they
get
a
poor
reputation
because
then
they
can't
join
the
club
right
you've
built
in
an
incentive
system
where,
by
basically
pushing
down
other
cas,
they
can't
join
the
club
and
you
have
more
control
over.
K
What's
going
to
get
funded
like
there's
really
is
a
very
you
know,
let
me
put
it
might
be
unintentional,
but
it
could
also
be
intentional
that
there's
a
sinister
aspect
to
this,
because
I'm
looking
at
people
here,
like
I'm
looking
at
some
of
the
stats
here,
1800
proposals,
99
of
which
got
filtered
out
right
like
did.
We
really
have
that
many
bots
right.
We
didn't
have
that
in
previous
ones.
K
Right,
like
these
guys,
have
got
some
crazy
numbers
here,
92
percent
filtered
out
of
2
000
right,
like
all
these
guys,
almost
all
of
them
did
over
a
thousand
and
they're
sitting
in
the
high
90s
and
70s
and
80s
filtered
out.
You
can't
say
that
there
are
that
many
bots
there's
no
way.
There's
90
of
the
assessments
were
done
by
bots
or
we're
poor.
K
All
right
like
this
is
there's
something
else
at
play
here,
whether
it's
intentional
or
not.
It's
a
different
question,
but
to
me
it
looks
intentional
based
upon
the
incentive
structure
and
the
reputation
system
that
you've
built,
so
that
that's
where
I
that's,
where
I'd
like
people
to
look
right.
So,
if
you're
looking
at
where
to
look
at
how
to
fix
it
for
the
next
one,
you
know
if
somebody's
filtered
out
okay.
K
So
let
me
do
this
another
way,
so
somebody
sold
out
92
of
something
they've,
probably
done
it
based
upon
using
some
sort
of
script
all
right.
So
if
we're
talking
about
ca's
gaming,
the
system,
that's
a
vca
gaming,
the
system
in
order
to
say
okay,
so
I'm
filtering
out
everything
that
I
don't
know,
does
a
similarity
analysis
or
something
that's
over
40,
there's
something
that's
they're
doing
something
in
order
to
get.
K
If
you
pick
92,
if
you
pick
1800
or
2000
random
assessments,
there's
no
way,
92
percent
of
them
should
be
filtered
out
right,
like
that.
That's
just
they're
doing
something
that
is
gaming,
the
system.
So
I
would
like
to
see
anybody
who's
filtered
out
more
than
40
50
percent,
any
vca
filtered
that
out.
They
should
be
called
up
and
said.
Okay
show
us
how
you
came
up
with
those
numbers
right
like
if
they're
not
challenged
on
that,
then
they're
not
accountable
at
all
right.
K
So
there's
there's
something
to
be
said
about
the
people
who
have
filtered
out
so
much
that
needs
they.
You
know,
I
think
they've
broken
the
system
and
they've
they've
done
an
irreparable
harm
or
severe
harm.
Anyway,
maybe
it
can
be
repaired,
but
you
know
a
lot
of
people
are
going
to
drop
out
of
this
right.
So
the
whole
diversity,
inclusiveness
sort
of
aspect-
that's
been
shot
this
round
right,
like
I
have
no
faith
in
the
vca
process.
K
E
E
A
can
of
arms
here,
but
I'm
glad
that
it's
it's
a
relevant
topic,
so
I've
been
I've
been
scanning
through
the
the
reviews.
First
of
all,
I
I
I
don't
think
this
is
intentional.
I
I
have
so
much
faith
in
cardano
and
the
community
and
the
people
that
I've
met
have
been.
You
know
just
amazing,
amazing
people,
so
I
don't
think
it's
intentional.
E
I
just
think
that
when
I'm
looking
at
my
I'm
looking
at
my
assessment
right
now-
and
I
see
that
I
have
like
nine
goods
that
so
I
was
rated
good
bye
and
then
14
filtered
me
out-
I'm
trying
to
understand.
What's
you
know,
what's
the
logic
behind
it
and
yeah
I
mean
I,
I
think
the
pattern
might
have
been
my
briefness
or
my
efficiency
of
words.
As
a
consultant.
I
I
don't
like
to
write
word
worthy
things
that
will
not
be
read.
E
E
So
I'm
just
I'm
just
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around.
You
know
what
happened,
and
I
hope
that
and
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
guys
that
I'm
talking
to
that
did
well
is-
is
trying
to
reach
me.
I
think
he's
on
the
call
so
I'll
get
some
feedback.
I
just
wanted
to
say
just
quickly.
I
have
faith
in
in
catalyst.
I
think
what
what
what
we're
building
here
is.
Amazing,
I'm
a
big
proponent
of
cardano.
I
live
and
breathe
cardano
daily.
E
Ambassador
or
in
training
for
dubai,
holding
the
meetups
hosting
the
meetups
here
in
dubai,
and
I
believe
that
there
are
many
ways
that
we
can
grow
it
and
and
there's
a
lot
of
young
people
here
that
are
graduating
from
universities
that
have
the
talent
that
we
need
and
they
should
be
proposing.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
the
logic
behind
it
and
my
you
know
it's
for
me:
it's
quality
versus
quantity
and
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that
I
get
the
right
feedback
and
and
correct
accordingly
and
I
hope
to
be
assessing
again.
E
If
I
have
the
time
again,
it's
I
had
the
time
this
time
around,
because
I'm
I'm
between
projects.
So
I
had
you
know
I
had
those
20
hours
that
I
put
in.
I
don't
know
if
I'll
necessarily
have
that
for
the
next
fund,
but
I
have
a
lot
of
good
advice.
I'm
a
mentor
to
many
projects,
not
only
in
you
know,
outside
cardano,
mostly
digital.
So
I
have
a
lot
of
advice
to
given
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
what
happened.
D
I
think
yes,
that
there
are
outliners,
but
the
one
like
problem
or
not
a
problem,
but
the
risk
you're
doing
is
you're
also
generalizing,
based
on
like
who
are
like
these
people
who
assess
thousands
to
thousands
of
assessments,
because
I'm
last
one
I
also
started
taking
it
more
seriously,
put
myself
a
tool
to
assess,
and
I
reached
almost
a
thousand
assessments
and
it
be-
and
yes,
there
is
one
risk
that
you
can
fall
off
to
this,
like
similarity
like
analysis
where,
yes,
you
need
to
make
a
difference
between
what
is
a
template
used
but
changed
according
to
proposal,
and
what
is
a
template
used
to
just
like
sporadically
copy
paste
to
all
kinds
of
proposals
in
order
to
hit
or
miss
the
target,
and-
and
I
think
now
there
are
okay.
D
Two
levels
of
this
is
this
system
is
self-explored
or
we
are
fix
it
by
creating
not
a
bandage
but
the
feedback
loop
and
because
I
think
we're
missing
something.
Yes,
it
adds
more
overhead
to
vcas
if
they
have
to
start
now
kind
of
like
creating
more
reasons
behind
why
they
did
something.
But
one
thing
is
like:
okay,
perhaps
keep
this
as
the
same,
what
we
did
but
have
these
kinds
of
opening
discussions,
what
we
have
and
and
create
the
place
where
people
can
come
assessors
and
proposers
alike
to
to
go
through
these.
D
D
They
are
doing
their
way
to
try
to
make
like
help
and
make
sure
that
these
assessors
don't
abuse
the
system,
and
it
can
be
mixed
up
because
we
are
in
a
decent
place,
our
mark
and
we
don't
have
any
guiding
rails
except
the
commuted
like
advisor
guidelines
compared
to
innovation
fund.
I've
been
looking
into
what
we
have
in
free
after
there's
67
like
highly
16
pages
guides
for
other
innovation
funds,
but
they're
centralized.
D
So
we
have
like
unique
stuff
where
we
have
more
people,
part
of
innovation
but
less
skype
like
totally
just
one
document
somewhere,
and
that
this
is
very
unique
position
where
we
put
ourselves,
because
we
have
like
almost
no
rules,
but
we
still
have
some
rules
and
we
are
creating
these
rules
in
our
head.
How
do
we
want
to
defend
or
how
do
we
want
to
improve
the
collaborative
ecosystem
around
so
yeah?
I
think
we're
missing
as
a
solution
I
feel
like.
D
We
are
looking
for
some
kind
of
feedback
loops
to
look
into
and
analyze
and
get
these
vcs
and
they're
like
d-reps,
but
just
on
a
different
level.
They
are
like
assessor
vfs
in
a
sense
so
like.
Why
do
you
make
these
stations,
how
you're
making
it
and
help
these
visas
also
like
improve
with
the
feedback?
So
I
know
how
we
could
close
the
like
loop
and,
I
think,
all
the
all
the
roles
kind
of
have
to
speak
with
each
other
and
give
thumbs
up
or
thumbs
down
on
our
process.
K
I'd
like
to
respond
to
that,
so
just
to
be
clear,
I
know
I've
been
the
advocate
for
templates
in
the
last
two
rounds.
I
did
not
use
a
template
this
round
because
I
thought
it
was
too
risky.
So
this
was
not
an
issue.
I
got
80
of
mine
filtered
out
this
round
right.
I've
been
at
99.
The
previous
two
rounds.
K
No
template
this
time
right.
It's
not
looking
like
it's
anything
to
do
and
none
of
mine
were
short
right.
There's
nothing
anywhere
near
the
150
characters.
Everything
was
you
know,
paragraph
for
more
long,
equivalent
assessments
to
the
last
time.
So
I'm
not
looking
at
it
as
a
any
of
the
normal.
Even
similarity
analysis
should
have
been
very
different,
so
I'm
looking
at
saying
something's
different
right.
So
that's
just
my
own
experience
based
upon
what's
what's
happened.
A
E
Yeah
this
is
guys.
This
is
a
very
interesting
topic.
I
urge
anyone
who's
interested
in
kpis
to
read
a
book
by
the
professor
kevin
kaiser.
It's
called
the
blue
line.
Imperative
he's
a
professor
at
insaad,
and
the
whole
book
is
about
how,
when
you
use
kpis
as
objectives,
you
end
up,
you
end
up
killing
killing
your
business
right
and
they
give
examples
of
mercedes.
E
E
I
have
vested
interest
in
the
the
community
growing
the
proposals
increasing,
but
yet
the
quality,
obviously,
if
you're
going
to
fund,
if
we,
if,
if
we
are
going
to
fund
a
project,
that
it
be
a
good
project
that
has
a
good
chance
and
as
to
to
to
come
at
least
to
fruition
right-
and
we
don't
know
right-
we
don't
know
we
have
to
be.
Innovation-
is
really
tricky
right
today,
we're
at
the
infancy
of
blockchain
and
crypto
we're
at.
E
I
would
say
we're
at
the
wheel:
you
know,
like
we've
just
created
a
wheel
and
we
don't
know
if
bicycles
are
going
to
be
built.
Scooters
cars
horse,
cars,
we
we
don't
know
this
we're
still
at
the
infancy,
so
we
have
to
be
very
mindful
and
we
have
the
responsibility
as
the
gatekeepers
or
the
caretakers
of
of
this
whole,
this
whole
process
and
this
whole
fund
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
stifle
innovation.
E
So
when
I
was
assessing,
I
was
really
looking
out
for
you
know
in
the
proposals,
looking
judging
them
just
the
same
way
that
I
was
judging
myself
when
I
was
writing
mine,
which
is
make
sure
that
I'm
communicating
how
this
is
going
to
add
value,
and
if
there
was
a
gap,
I
highlighted
it
and
it
I
didn't,
follow
the
150.
E
E
Good
bad
assessments
got
reviewed
well
or
got
excellent,
I'm
just
I'm
just.
I
think
we
need
to
really
think
about
how
we
are
using
kpis
and
and
and
and
how
do
we.
E
And
the
vcas
don't
have
an
easy
job.
Most
of
my
most
of
mine
were
assessed
by
23,
plus
vcas
and
I'm
sure
it's
not
easy
for
them
to
to.
You
know
to
do
that
work
and
only
did
33
assessments,
and
I
thought
that
was
heavy.
I
can't
imagine
anyone
doing
more
than
that,
but
yeah
if
you're
working
eight
hours
a
day
every
day
for
a
week-
or
I
don't
know
how
long
we
had
maybe,
but
I
I.
E
I
really
think
that
we
need
to
think
about
when
we
put
these
kpis
of
minimum
number
of
words
I
was
listening
to
earlier.
Who
was
somebody
was
saying
that
yeah
there
were
bots,
they
were
like.
You
know,
good.
A
E
I
mean
that's
three
words,
obviously
that
fails,
but
how
do
we
now
make
sure
that
if
we've
given
some
good
advice
in
a
few
sentences-
and
it's
less
than
250
words,
I
think
is
the
minimum
that
that
popped
up
in
the
discussion
that
I
had?
How
do
we
make
sure
that
that
you
know
that
that
they
still
assess
properly
right
and
yeah?
E
E
L
Yeah
kpis
are
tricky
thing
like
once
you
adopt
them,
they
can
become
go
on
their
own.
You
forget
about
why
you,
you
started
measuring
that
and
so
about
the
whole
ca
and
vca
system
it.
So
I
think
one
thing
is
that
whatever
we're
doing
now,
nothing
is
is
perfect
right
and
we
all
kind
of
accept
that
and
we're
trying
to
figure
that
out.
L
I
think
what
maybe
is
a
bit
causing
some
some
emotions,
also
in
this
current
state,
is
that
that
it
is
sort
of
kind
of
punishing
certain
certain
people
right
taking
away
their
work
and
that
that
is
kind
of
harsh,
also
without
warnings
about
like
how
you
should
write
them
right
without
communication,
and
if
we
accept
that
it
isn't
perfect,
right
and
and
because
also
the
effort
to
get
rid
of
proposals
that
are
not
up
to
certain
standard
is
an
attempt
to
make
it
more
perfect
right
to
get
the
voters
better
informed.
L
But
but
additionally,
just
people
tagging
things
in
quality
is
really
valuable
right,
because
that
adds
data
for
the
future
that
we
can
use
to
actually
build
systems.
That
will
help
us
automatically
sort
of
guide
us
in
this,
and
if
we
collect
the
data
together
and
we
can
build
those
systems
together
and
if
we
focus
less
on
filtering
out
and
more
on
including
different
thoughts
and
directions
in
in
adding
assessments
right,
that's
all
data
right,
that's
all
that
we
can
use
like,
and
it
also
helps
to
determine
the
quality
of
other
assessors.
L
It's
it's
much
easier
to
determine
them.
If
you
have
a
lot
of
overlap
with
a
lot
of
other
people,
because
you
can
look
at
how
they
deviate
from
each
other
and
you
can
look
for
patterns
much
more,
but
if
we
take
out
a
lot
of
data
that
becomes
more
difficult
and
if
we
discourage
people
to
to
become
ca,
right
and
and
yeah
we
then
then
it's
just,
I
think,
yeah
we're
losing
something
there.
An
opportunity.
O
Tom,
yes,
so
I've
gone
through
this
now
and
as
a
challenge
fund
manager,
whatever
it
is
a
proposer
and
a
ca,
and
some
of
the
the
rift
with
one
individual
or
two
individuals
who
had
all
their
vca
work
filtered
out
is
is
distasteful
in
in
many
ways,
but
I
think
in
this
process
of
being
a
ca
to
a
vca,
we
have
to
recognize
that
everybody
is
a
volunteer,
though
they
do
get
rewarded
for
their
work
and
assessments.
O
Now,
if
the
assessments
are
taken
away,
filtered
out
and
they're
not
getting
rewarded,
I
I
believe
the
community
may
see
a
fallout
of
cas
and
vcas.
O
The
system,
as
sophie
said,
is
not
perfect
and
we
have
to
accept
that
each
fund-
and
I
I
was
lurking
for
a
while
each
fund-
there
are
improvements,
gamers
are
being
filtered
out.
O
You
know
bad
players
are
being
filtered
out
or
caught,
but
the
way
I
see
it
right
now,
the
incentive
program
is
flawed,
greatly
flawed.
The
fact
that
I
could
I
don't,
but
I
could
have
several
ids
or
accounts,
and
I
could
game
that
way
I
think
is
it
is
flawed.
O
O
I
think
the
incentives
need
to
be
fixed,
so
vcas
I
mean
cas
the
way
the
incentive
is
cas
right
now
want
it
excellent,
so
they're
going
to
be
nicer
on
the
proposers
the
vcas
want
to
get.
You
know
so
much
done
so
they
can.
Some
of
them
can
make
money.
I
think
the
incentive
program
has
to
be
examined
and
fixed,
and
I
think
what
has
been
lost-
and
I
haven't
had
really
heard
one
word
on
this-
yet
is
the
ca
program.
O
The
proposal
program,
the
vca
program-
is
also
supposed
to
be
focused
on
the
voter
and
and
that's
what
all
this
work
is
supposed
to
be.
So
we
get
more,
voters
engaged
and
can
educate
the
voters,
and
I
think
the
focus
on
that
may
have
slipped
to
the
side
a
little
bit,
so
it
may
need
to
be
brought
back.
O
I
forget
what
the
numbers
are
for
the
voters
in
the
last
one,
how
many
actually
voted
and
in
this
fund
what
voter
is
going
to
go
through?
What
is
it
1205
proposals?
O
Is
any
voter
going
to
read
that,
so
they
rely
on
these
five-star
three-star
two-star
reviews,
I
believe,
to
to
decide
who
to
cast
their
vote
on
so
we
need
as
a
community.
We
really
need
to
work
the
system,
so
the
star
system,
or
whatever,
is
effective
for
the
voters
when
they
come
in
to
look
at
the
1200
different
proposals.
O
I'm
sorry
for
the
rambling,
I'm
just
talking
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
plan
to
remain
engaged
with
the
community
and
I
I
only
did
17
assessments.
It
took
me
on
an
average
an
hour
and
a
half
for
each
assessment,
and
I
just
looked
at
the
file
and
it
looks
like
they're
all
rated
good.
I
haven't
had
any
fun,
you
know
filtered
out,
so
I'm
happy
with
that
and
next
round.
I
hope
to
improve
my
propose
my
my
review
system.
A
E
L
When,
when
a
proposal
doesn't
have
enough
assessments
or
falls
below
certain
threshold,
three,
I
think
it
was
this
round
or
as
three
or
less
then
there
was
a
call
to
a
vcs
specifically
to
come
and
assess
those,
and
those
assessments,
then
were
just
accepted
as
is
and-
and
this
was
in
the
list
and
some
of
them
went
to
five,
but
some
also
had
like
when
went
up
to
11
or
something
like
that.
So
I
had
a
lot
of
like
late
vcas
assessments
and
yeah
they're
yeah,
it's
not
but
yeah.
E
Yeah,
I
think
it's
really
what's
really
interesting
is
as
we're
assessing
as
we're
assessing
these
proposals.
So
putting
my
community
advisor
cesaro
hat
on
is:
are
we
help
we're
help?
I
mean
the
idea
was
to
help
the
proposals
right
to
to
improve
their
proposals
and
and
and
then
also
the
part
that
probably
I
I
didn't
think
too
much
about-
is
eventually
how
to
guide
the
voters
so
that
they
can
get
a
they
can.
They
can
vote
right.
So
I
think
I
think,
maybe
maybe
I
missed.
I
missed
that
aspect.
E
I
was
focused
more
on
the
first
part,
which
is
really
providing
valuable
feedback.
Constructive
criticism,
let's
say
on
those
proposals,
so
that
the
proposers
can
can
go
back
next
time,
come
back
with
improved
plan
planning
or
auditability
or
providing
more
information,
and
I
think
it's
really
interesting
to
add
this.
That
second
element,
which
I
didn't
really
think
about
to
be
honest,
which
is
once
these
assessments
are,
are
once
we
go
into
voting.
E
How
do
people
vote
and
start
to
look
at
that
and
how
how
these
assessments
will
and
the
scores
will
affect
how
people
vote
on
these
proposals?
So
I
think
it's
really
interesting
to
think
about
it,
but
you
know
again
thank
you
for
for
all
the
feedback,
and
and
for
me
it's
it's,
it's
all
constructive.
A
As
we
naturally
came
to
a
little
bit
of
a
lull
here
with
no
hands
up,
I
would
just
offer
that
there's
a
lot
of
strong
feelings
here
across
the
community
and
also
represented
within
this
group
right
now
and
a
lot
of
different
ideas
on
what
went
wrong.
Why
it's
going
wrong?
A
What
could
be
done
in
response,
and
so
my
question
for
this
group
then
is:
where
does
all
of
that
intention
go?
How
does
it
get
directed
in
a
productive
way,
because
we
could
very
easily
be
sitting
here
talking
about
these
same
things
again
next
fund
and
that's
something
that
we've
been
really
working
to
try
to
prevent
and
organize
around?
So
maybe
we
can
put
our
put
ourselves
in
the
mindset
of
looking
at
rather
than
I
think
it's
also.
A
I
think
it's
also
easy
to
anticipate
that
there
is
like
a
in
that
things
are
intentionally
going
that
way,
and
that
may
be
the
case
for
many
reasons
right
and
we
can
infer
about
what
those
are.
But
we
have
data
here.
We
have
experience,
we
have
opportunity,
and
so
how
can
we
put
that
together
and
prevent
and
be
proactive
for?
What's
coming
up
here,
the
same
things
that
were
there's
the
same
feelings
of
intensity
and
this
part
right
now
also
exists
in
other
parts.
A
It's
what
has
caused
this
document
so
for
those
of
you
who
looked
at
it
for
the
first
time.
These
are
things
that
were
brought
up
for
the
community
and
have
been
collected,
so
they
may
or
may
not
be
priorities
that
we
have
to
look
at
and
they
may
or
may
not
have
people
who
want
to
work
on
them
and
they
may
or
may
not
become
something
until
two
funds
from
now.
A
So
this
is
a
little
bit
of
what
is
on
us
to
be
able
to
decide
and
adjust,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
candidness
and
the
and
the
intensity
of
the
involvement
of
people
here
so
I'll
just
shut
up
there
and
go
ahead.
P
The
wrong
color,
I
know
I
know
it's
all
right.
I
just
want
to
yeah.
I
like
the
idea
of
being
saying:
how
can
we
you
know
we
can
criticize
critique
and
take
apart.
You
know
experiences
that
we've
had
and
and
but
what
do
we
do
about
it?
Exactly
one
thing
I
want
to
say
is:
I
haven't
been
a
vc
until
this
last
one
and
I
was
a
ca
for
several
funds,
but
didn't
do
enough
assessments,
in
my
opinion,
to
to
warrant
becoming
a
veteran
so
to
speak.
P
So,
finally,
I
said:
okay,
let
me
let
me
I
got
the
invitation.
I
I
did
it.
I
like
the
idea
that
you
have
200.
You
know
that
you
have
to
do
at
least
otherwise.
You
know
there's
a
lower
limit
right,
so
I
did
I
did
over
200.
I
ended
up
at
310
or
something,
but
I
want
to
just
throw
out
there
to
to
people
who
haven't
done
bca
work.
P
It
is
a
very
difficult
job
in
a
sense,
because
there's
such
an
incredible
myriad
of
different
types
of
writing
and
different
types
of
things
that
are
being
poured
into
the
infinite
number
of
of
ca
assessments,
it
seems
more
and
more
a
lot
of
it.
I
just
want
to
say
I
took
the
role
this
time
to
say:
okay,
I
wrote
comments
almost,
I
think
almost
every
time
I
mean
even
when
it
wasn't
filtered
out.
P
P
I
don't
know,
but
I
feel
like
if
we're,
if
we're
having
issues
with
people
doing
way
too
many
like
how
is
it
physically
like
physically
possible
to
do
x,
number
of
thousands
of
vca
reviews
of
assessments,
and
so
so
little
time
or
whatever
same
thing,
with
doing
ca
proposals
I
mean
you
know,
I'm
I'm
someone
who
takes
at
least
I
don't
know
like,
like
people
were
saying
an
hour
to
do
a
ca
assessment.
P
Let's
say-
and
I
was
taking
a
lot
of
time
to
do
vca
assessments,
and
mainly,
I
would
say-
because
and
I'll
also
say
this-
I
think
as
we're
iterating
and
growing
I'm
a
very
strong
advocate
for
saying,
okay
where's,
your
domain
expertise.
You
should
be
focusing
there
right.
P
So
if
I'm
not
an
developer
or
an
it
engineer
whatever
I
I
don't
feel
like,
I
should
be
working
in
that
that
realm
and,
with
my
background
in
you
could
say,
culture,
arts,
film,
etc,
right
and
business
and
entrepreneurship
and
program
management
and
all
kinds
of
other
things
that
I
teach
at
university.
But
I
can
say
I
focused
on
the
challenge
that
had
to
do
with
you
know
the
the
film
and
whatever
creatives
and
as
a
ca.
I
can
say
it's
very
interesting
to
have
an
aggressive
response.
P
To
my,
I
would
say
very
informed
critique
of
someone's
proposal
as
a
ca,
and
I
just
want
to
point
this
out
too.
A
lot
of
people
most
proposers
did
not
go
in
and
give
feedback
and
flags
and
comments.
Sometimes
there
were
comments
that
were
like.
Oh
great,
thank
you,
for
you
know
giving
me
five
stars.
P
You
know
wonderful,
but
but
I
found
that
the
only
ca
review
that
I
was
that
I
had
that
was
filtered
out
was
one
that
was
really
criticized
by
the
proposer
and-
and
you
know
I
would
mind
making
a
case
study
because,
to
be
honest,
I
had
very
strong
feelings.
I
am
a
professional
in
the
field
of
that
particular
fund
and
I
think
my
criticism
was
really
legitimate.
P
It
was
filtered
out.
It
had
two
good
and
two,
you
know
filter
out,
so
it
got
filtered
out
anyway.
That's
just
one
small
little
little
thing.
Another
would
be
as
a
vca
coming
in
and
saying,
oh
so,
and
so
had
15
or
20
proposals
to
do
something
the
same
thing,
but
for
different
cryptocurrencies
or
whatever,
and
then
you
have
a
ca,
who's,
doing
exactly
cut
and
paste
the
same
review.
P
You
know
into
all
of
those
same
things
anyway.
So
do
we
filter
it
out?
Do
we
not
filter
it
out?
It
was
a
good
review,
but
can
you
do
it
over
20
different
things?
I
don't
know
so
anyway,
just
to
illustrate
for
those
who
haven't
been
bcaas.
These
are
the
things
that
I
was
coming
up
against
as
a
vca
and
having
to
think
through
this
and
not
knowing
exactly
okay.
Should
I
really
filter
this
out?
Should
I
not
filter
this
out?
P
I
don't
think
I
filtered
out
anywhere
near
this
34
or
whatever
was
in
the
chat,
but,
let's
just
say,
there's
so
many
problems
that
get
thrown
at
you.
People
who
you
don't
really
think
are
writing
about
the
proposal,
so
you
have
to
go
in
and
read
it
of
course,
and
and
align
it
and
whatnot.
P
So
I
don't
know
what
to
say,
except
that
I
think
if,
if
there
are
vcas
who
quote
unquote
work
the
system,
if
not
game
it
by
you,
get
better
and
better
as
you
do
it.
That's
for
sure
the
more
you
do,
the
more
you
know
expedient
you
can
be,
but
I
feel
like
I.
I
still
don't
know
how
it's
physically
possible
for
certain
people
to
do
so.
Many
you
know
these
and
I
feel
like
one
thing
we
could
do
like
I
said
before
was
maybe
institute
having
a
a
comment.
P
P
They
can
be
complete
newbies,
you
know
in
a
certain
sense,
they
can
be
friends
and
proposals
as
we
know,
etc,
etcetera.
So,
there's
a
lot
of
things
you
have
to
think
about,
and
also
you
have
to,
as
I
think
of
vca,
give
feedback
to
them
and
say
and
remind
people
we're
doing
this
for
voters
we're
not
doing
this
because
we
think
we're
so
smart
and
we
have
good
answers.
P
We're
trying
to
make.
You
know,
reviews
that
actually
help
the
person
write
a
better
review
in
the
future
for
the
for
the
voters,
because
I
think
they,
my
opinion
is
they're
extremely
important
for
voters
and
and
the
star
ratings
are
extremely
important
and
they
can
be
gained
and
our
you
know
double
check
or
whatever.
In
a
way
or
not
double
check,
maybe
with
vca
quality
control
is
really
important.
P
So
I
don't
know,
but
I
feel,
like
you
know,
there's
some
ideas
that
that
we
need
to
take.
I
do
think
the
incentive
thing
is
is
questionable
the
reputation
thing
etc.
I
don't
know
I
couldn't
really
make
sense
out
of
it.
I
read
all
the
documents
and
I
was
participating
in
some
of
the
conversations
on
telegram
and
stuff
or
at
least
reading
them,
and
I
can't
wrap
my
head
around
it.
P
I
just
try
to
do
really
good
work
and,
if
I
don't
align
with
the
rest
of
the
vcas
okay,
but
I
feel
like
you
know,
there's
there's
more
room
for
catalyst.
Vsa
school,
you
know
maybe
even
getting
in
and
having
there
were
many
many
times
as
a
vca.
I
really
would
have
loved
to
have
have
chatted
with
another
group
of
people
who
hey.
What
do
you
think
about
this?
What
would
you
do
in
this
case
or
whatever?
P
P
Okay,
I
haven't
seen
those
all
that
data
cheers.
D
D
Same
and
so
it
is
something
I'm
at
least
working
on.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
on
different
communities
are
basically
taking
specific
issues
like
today.
There
was
a
huge
emphasis
on
community
advisor
work
and
the
veteran
community
advice
of
work,
and
what
are
the
issues
there
and
I'm
looking
in
terms
of
like
a
product
that
the
innovation
fund
for
us
is
a
is
it's
also
a
product
and
there
are
like
certain
rules,
how
it
operates
and
timeline
and
stages.
D
So
here
is
the
template
where
it
comes
from
ninja
sharing
taste
to
this
proposal.
All
of
the
stuff
we
mentioned
today,
I'm
ending
up
with
like
privately
meetings,
and
how
do
we
even
finish
projects,
so
the
entire
goal
of
us
here
is
to
somewhat
come
up
with
cool
ideas
and
share
them
out
and,
and
now
all
the
other
community
members
are
into.
D
We
do
the
same
things
and
kind
of
want
to
streamline
it
and
and
centralizing
actually
helps
with
seam
riding,
even
though
we
try
to
decentralize
it.
So
it's
basically
we
are.
We
are
centralizing
to
decentralize
here,
so
that's
like
a
basic
overview
and
and
this
timeline
and
these
roads
we
have
in
this
project
catalyst.
D
D
What
happens
if
you
do
this
and
and
where
my
one
of
the
goal
is
to
also
figure
out?
How
could
we
make
it
less
waterfall
effect
on
the
project,
catalyst
and
more,
like
agile
effect,
that
when
the
proposal
stage
is
happening
already,
community
advisors
are
giving
feedback
and
already
dcas
are
giving
feedback
to
the
commenters,
not
waiting
for
months
like
in
specific
dates
and
times
to
to
to
give
feedback
and
and
in
order
to
stream.
D
Like
this
process,
you
kind
of
have
to
understand
the
requirements
and
the
tools
and
the
documents
we
move
around
in
order
to
capture
all
of
that
kind
of
intention
and
collaboration,
and
for
this
I'm
trying
to
create
this,
like
one
huge
hectic
model
board
which
takes
a
lot
of
time
to
load.
But
has
the
information,
though,
to
able
to
see
these
kinds
of
relations
and
interactions
between
roles
and
activities.
A
D
Yeah
but
one
good
example,
just
last
week,
where
we
kind
of
did
the
first
iteration
in
a
community
swarm
session,
where
we
tried
to
map
out
community
advisor
perspectives
and
we
ended
up,
then
it's
also
on
the
motherboard
that
in
the
end,
we
moved
almost
all
the
activities
into
one
stage
like
there
is
such
a
huge.
But
we
expected
yeah
comment,
advice
that
would
share
ideas
and
help
in
the
inside
sharing
stage.
D
But
there
is
no
mandate
to
that
and
they
also
might
come
too
late
because
most
likely
most
of
the
newest
community
advisors
who
join
join
at
the
augmented
resource
stage
or
just
just
before,
and
and
then
you
kind
of
visually
start.
Seeing
if
you
all
look
at
these
proposals
that
they
all
like
siloed
in
one
per
place
and
the
gross
pollination
doesn't
happen.
And-
and
yes,
of
course,
we
can
say
just
that
and
write
it
down
to
the
document.
D
But
I
know
I'm
a
visual
guy
and
I
really
like
to
see
it
like
visually
and
if
you
kind
of
because
we
are
rehashing
the
same
issues
we
had
last
month
and
not
to
all
of
them,
but
we
kind
of
knew
these
crimes
are
gonna
scale
up,
and
these
are
going
to
come
when
these
roles
are
set
and
in
in
order
to
like
workshop
these
kinds
of
meetings
we
had.
If
these
are
structured,
individual
representation,
we
could
start
jumping
through
these
issues,
much
quicker
than
having
a
story
or
a
narrative,
which
is
also
good.
D
I
think
we
need
narratives
and
stories
we're
going
to
understand
what
we
are
doing
here,
but
at
some
point
you
also
want
to
high
speed,
like
like
a
network
where
we
take
this
issue,
and
we
already
know
what's
happening
and
you
jump
through
the
end
of
this
collective
opinion,
where
already
50
or
100.
People
have
agreed
that
this
is
an
issue,
and
this
is
where
it
leads,
and
these
are
possible
solutions
and
now
yeah
proposals
coming
out,
and
I
think
mirrorboard
is
nice
because
you
can
like
just
shoot,
links
everywhere
and
create
this.
D
Like
crazy
network
of
like
documents
and
my
robots
and
resources,
but
yeah,
this
is
just
one
like
from
one
side
vision.
How
I
would
like
to
see
and
how
would
I
like
to
contribute
and
help
to
see
that
map
of
yeah
interactions
in
project
catalyst.
A
Juan
you
have
your
hand
up
and
I'll
just
add
to
that,
but
I
think
I
think
seeing
the
picture
is
one
thing,
but
we
at
period
and
if
the,
if
those
of
us
who
are
really
passionate
about
certain
parts
of
this,
don't
find
a
way
to
come
together
and
and
work
on
it
in
a
way
that
has
a
beginning
middle
and
end.
There's
it's
really
hard
to
move
things
forward.
It's
hard
to
move
things
forward
in
a
big
group
like
this
right.
A
But
we
need
to
be
able
to
actualize
the
big
part
of
why
we
started
to
have
the
sub-circle
conversations
in
the
ca
in
vca
groups
which
could
extrapolate
out
or
maybe
not
maybe
there's
other
ways
to
do
that.
But
you
know
we
when
we,
when
we
offer
solutions
and
then
don't
become
also
champions
for
them,
it's
hard
for
that
to
move
forward
in
a
way
that
establish
itself
sooner
than
later.
A
So
I
just
say
that
out
of
my
own
desire
to
see
things
adjusted
as
well
so
juan
sorry
to
put
in
on
you,
there
go
ahead.
Q
No,
not
nadia.
Thank
you
so
much
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
about
the
name.
You
know
I
see
that
since
I
came,
I
came
really
late
because
I
was
at
the
salad
cafe
helping
host
the
meeting,
but
the
name
for
the
for
the
time
community
and
but
then
yeah.
I
noticed
that
that
the
negativity
and
the
kind
of
is
is
it
has
to
do
with
with
it.
I
mean
the
name
is
one
of
the
things
we
should
try
to
put
it
away.
Q
The
other
thing
that
I
was
thinking
is
that
one
of
them
is
also
responsibility
as
proposers,
because
if
we,
if
we
are
really,
you
know,
active,
and
we
do,
let
me
end
this
call.
F
R
Hello,
I'm
most
all
new
here
and
I've
been
watching
stuff
and
I
have
an
educational
background.
So
that's
the
naturally
the
lens
I
bring
to
the
whole
question,
and
although
especially
today,
I
you
know,
I
I
know
also
that
there
are
other
other
kinds
of
questions
and
issues
going
on
that
affect
the
whole
thing
and
that's
very
complex,
all
the
same
it
does.
R
T
R
R
It
seems
to
be
a
number
of
areas
that
this
whole
process
could
be
improved
with
some
training
and
let's
call
that
so
that
cas
are
more
qualified
and
it
seems
to
me
that
that
in
turn-
and
I
actually
could
also
do
training
of
proposers
and
when
I
say
training,
I
don't
really
need
a
very
formal
approach,
like
a
class
per
se,
but
more
of
a
leveraging
that
social
learning
having
a
curriculum
where
people
like
just
laying
out
some
expectations
of
what
people
need
to
know
how
to
do
and
that
then
people
could
use
the
social
learning
approach
to
find
out
and
go
to
their
existing
resources.
R
And
all
of
that-
and
I
I
haven't
really
in
the
document
that
nadia
shared
a
little
while
ago
of
starting
this,
this
breakout,
the
idea
of
training
and
learning
and
even
testing,
is
in
the
document.
It's
certainly
been
in
the
conversations
over
the
months.
I've
been
involved,
but
I
haven't
really
heard
anything
more
about
that
too
much,
and
I
I'm
very
interested
in
that-
and
I
have
a
proposal
in
on
that
to
to
do
a
needs
assessment
and
we
have
a
model
for
that.
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
again.
R
A
How
are
we
doing?
Should
we
so
we
start
to
close
things
up
here.
Should
we
open
a
new
topic?
This
is
the
space
for
suggestion,
so
leave
it.
U
D
For
that
one
more
issue
here,
if
or
after
these
of
the
excel
files,
are
shared
to
catalyst
team
and
they
make
its
way
to
your
montgomery
are
actually
they
don't
make
it.
They
do
like
the
assessments
and
even
what
status
there.
I
think
we
would
need
just
one
database
where
we
can
call
it
because
right
now,
if
you
want
to
analyze,
you
have
to
manually
do
like
hours
of
work
to
clean
the
data,
to
put
it
in
a
correct
way.
D
M
I
did
see,
I
think,
there's
three
dashboard
type
proposals
in
fun
date.
One
of
those
might
get
funded.
They
don't
really
have
any
content
in
them,
but
that
some
people
people
want
to
produce
a
dashboard
myself
and
victor
have
spoken
about
doing
a
similar
thing
and
we
didn't
get
around
to
putting
a
proposal
into
one
date,
probably
for
fun
nine.
So
a
lot
of
the
work
that
I
did
was
just
in
spreadsheets.
M
Other
people
are
doing
the
same
thing,
but
I
think
you're
right
collecting
collecting
a
lot
of
that
information
into
into
a
single
database
with
with
some
sort
of
dashboard.
We
can
drill
down
and
up
up
and
down
from
from
trends
across
funds
down
to
the
individual
fund
down
to
your
individual
performance.
So
we
could
work
out
what
the
hell
on
the
read
was
up
to
in
in
fun
in
fund
seven
compared
to
fund
eight
and
how
was
his
performance.
That
would
be
the
ideal
situation
at
the
moment.
M
You're
right
it's
about
drilling
down
into
spreadsheets
and
and
trying
to
work
out
what
you
so
work
out,
your
own
performance.
So
the
link
I
shared
earlier
on
the
in
the
chat,
the
reason
I
originally
did
this
in
fund
seven-
was
really
just
to
assess
my
own
performance,
and
I
learned
so
much
just
from
taking
a
little
bit
of
time
to
analyze
what
I
did.
What
was
I
thinking
was
the
main
thing.
So
so
the
vca
feedback
is
not
mandatory.
M
So
and
assuming
that's
why
I
commend
the
the
the
the
comments
that
kareem
read
earlier
about
trying
to
now
understand
your
you
know
what
what
you
did,
what
how
do
you
get
that
feedback,
and
it's
not
ideal
that
we
don't
have
vca
feedback
comments
in
there?
I
think
we
tried
to
make
them
mandatory
last
time,
but
I
think
there's
a
session
like
this.
Where
got
a
bit
of
pushback
and
it
felt
like
too
much
too
much
effort,
so
I
gave
up
so
they
were.
M
They
were
kind
of
highly
recommended
that
we
that
the
pca
support,
put
comments.
Feedback
in
we
may
be
going
down
the
route
of
hopefully
going
down
the
route
and
making
it
mandatory,
and
then
the
quality
will
come
so
even
remember
where
we
come
from
vca
vca
feedback
and
it
is
a
gap.
M
It's
definitely
definitely
got
to
resolve,
but
I
think
there's
a
couple
of
things.
If
anybody
wants
to
you
know,
I've
done
quite
a
lot
of
analysis
on
on
individuals
just
fairly
easy
for
me
to
understand.
If
anybody
wants
to
understand
their
individual
performance
or
ask
questions
about,
where
do
I
go
and
look
for
something?
I
can't
look
through
150
spreadsheets,
it's
not
that
complicated,
because
I
I
spent
the
weekend
putting
some
files
together.
So
it's
quite
quite
easy
to
see
just
feel
free
to
reach
out
on
telegram
or
discord
and
see.
V
V
G
G
G
This
thought
into
the
round
of
of
this
being
being
a
collective
and
acting
as
a
collective
in
several
steps
and
yes
to
really
emphasize
how
how
big
of
a
network
it
really
is,
and
I
some
sometimes
get
the
feeling
that
this
is
that
this
perspective
gets
a
bit
lost
if
we,
if
we
yeah,
especially
in
this
big
amount
of
data
yeah,
my
my
next
challenge
will
be
to
find
out
where
the
vsa
comments
are
but
yeah,
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
this
amazing
session.
U
U
I
noticed
that
about
five
percent
of
them
have
less
than
five
percent
have
actually
given
any
any
explanation
for
the
stuff
but
yeah.
There
is
something.
G
Q
Q
So
so,
when,
when
the
proposal
comes
to
to
the
ca
I
mean
it
has
lots
of
reviews
already
and-
and
we
proposers
will
have
time
to
to
make
the
repairs-
I
mean
maybe
the
changes
on
the
proposal,
so
that
will
alleviate
a
lot.
The
the
the
work
on
on
the
ca
part
and
then
yeah
like
have
a
like
a
better
outcome
and
kind
of
a
positive,
positive.
Q
Attitude
towards
the
proposals
and
which
I've
been
seeing
great
great
comments,
I
mean
every
every
comment
is
very
positive
and
very
outgoing,
but
still
if
the
proposer
prepares
a
little
a
little
more,
they
have
a
little
more
time
or
awareness
of
what
it
is
that
is
not
suitable
for
them
for
them
for
the
proposal,
then
the
the
the
ca
will
have
better
experience
during
the
assessment
and
and
that's
it.
This
is
what
I'm
you
know
my
comment
just
for
for
fun.
B
Not
really
I'm
just
thinking
what
are
we
going
to
do
now?
It
feels
like
we've
raised
a
lot
of
stuff
and
yeah.
It
doesn't
feel
very
clear
where
we're
going
to
take
it
all
I
mean
I
guess
some
of
it
will
go
to
the
vca
ca
meetings
that
you've
got
planned
already,
but
I
don't
know,
has
anybody
got
any
thoughts
on
that
because
it
feels
like
all
this
energy
and
powerful
commentary
needs
to
have
somewhere
to
go.
W
D
W
It's
obvious,
that
the
a
lot
of
proposers
are
not
happy
with
and
the
work
that
has
been
done.
So
there
should
be
a
serious,
a
serious
education
about
how
to
see
a
symbol,
how
to
train
them,
and
even
the
vca
is
how
to
train
them
to
assess
properly
not
just
doing,
but
to
do
it
so
that
members
will
be
proposed
that
they
have
been
fairly
assessed
and
that
will
keep
more
people
and
grow
their
echoes,
because
you
know
this
then
blockchain.
W
B
But
then
there's
been
some
comments
made
about
what
would
happen
if
we
just
rethought
it
completely
or
tried
alternative
funding
processes.
Personally,
I'm
feeling,
like
I'd,
really
like
to
get
a
load
of
proposals
funded
and
unfunded
in
a
room
and
just
go.
How
would
you
like
your
proposals
to
be
assessed?
B
K
Yeah
I'd
be
interested
in
that
to
be
honest
personally,
just
as
an
overview
for
the
the
way
the
process
works.
The
idea
that
you're
voting
on,
I
think,
that's
in
the
main
town
hall
you're
voting
on
a
thousand
proposals
that
part
right
there
at
the
start
is
wrong.
Right,
like
what
you
really
want
is
as
a
proposer,
I
want
people
to
be
interested
in
my
proposal
and
support
just
support
the
ones
they
want
to
support
right.
K
So
it's
about
attracting
the
user
base,
as
opposed
to
trying
to
win
a
popularity
contest
among
a
thousand
people
right,
like
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
concentration
of
dedicated
users
who
say
you
know,
focus
some
funds
my
way
and
we'll
get
this
going
and
we'll
build
up
the
community
on
that.
I
think
the
whole
voting
process
is
not.
K
It
doesn't
suit
anybody,
it
doesn't
suit
voters,
it
doesn't
suppose
it
doesn't
cas
or
vcas.
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
rethought
of
rethink
about
how
that
is
done
all
right.
So
I
I
personally
look
at
it
and
say
you
know
it's
like.
What's
the
value
of
me
voting
on
well,
especially
with
the
whales
right
like?
What's
the
value
of
me
voting
on,
you
know,
100
proposals
even
right.
I
want
to
just
pick
the
ones
and
say
I
want
to
support
this
and
let's
allocate
some
funds
towards
this.
K
D
You
brought
up
something
interesting
now,
I'm
like
when
it
started
like
this
fun
tree
or
something
I
felt
like.
We
might
need
to
start
thinking
about.
D
How
do
we
put
these
participants
to
put
skin
in
a
game
not
just
in
time,
but
also
in
some
kind
of
intrinsic
value?
But
I
know
this
is
a
very
controversial
topic
in
a
sense.
Oh
now
I
do
have
to
pay
ada
to
propose
or
pay
that,
and
that's
like
the
pay
number
is
like
very
limiting
so
and
now
I
feel
like
yeah.
We
still
want
to
just
grow
and
expand
and
keep
it
permissionless
in
a
sense,
but
it's
going
to
be
more
and
more
easier
to
start
thinking
about.
D
Okay,
what
are
the
barriers?
Because
I
don't
know-
sometimes
it
feels
like
we.
We
are
just
carrying
too
huge
weight
and
then,
as
soon
as
we
allow
like
a
single
person
to
to
do
something,
it
just
turns
somehow
into
lots
of
issues,
and
this
is
maybe
not
the
best
so
yeah
it's
hard
to
kind
of
direct,
because
there
are
so
many
things
you
could
do
personal
level
like
if
every
challenge
has
its
own
rules
and
then
we
just
make
it
even
more
chaotic.
But
we
have
shown
so
much
more
examples
to
play
around
with.
A
It
almost
be
cool
to
have
like
a
wild
ideas
session
right,
let's
get
off
coming
here.
We
just
go
like
that's
a
wild
idea.
What
if
we
do
this
and
then
because
I
I
do
feel
I
feel
myself
trapped
in.
I
said
this
is
someone
earlier
that,
like
some
parts
of
the
process,
feel
like
a
boat
that
has
been
patched
too
many
times,
we
keep
patching
this
boat.
Then
you
just
need
a
different
boat
and
you
can
apply
that
to
different
things.
A
Based
on
what
your
pain
points
are
personally,
but
it'd
be
great
to
just
be
like
what,
if
we
didn't
even
have
a
boat,
we
just
did
this.
No,
you
just
completely
reimagined,
not
that
not
because
you're
going
to
necessarily
do
it,
but
for
the,
for
the
sake
of
just
having
a
good
time
being
creative
about
thinking
about
this,
and
it's
really,
it's
really
like
to
the
to
the
problem
and
solution
comments
and
the
tattoo,
which
I
totally
vibe
with
it's
like.
A
When
you
have
a
problem
you're
like
encumbered
by
this
problem,
then
you
have
to
fix
it.
It's
like
such
a
it's.
Sometimes
it's
fun,
but
sometimes
it's
really
grating
and
difficult
and
hard,
and
it
comes
with
like
people
being
frustrated
with
each
other
and
you'd,
rather
just
throw
in
the
towel
on
that
specific
thing,
and
sometimes
we
do.
We
just
kick
it,
but
it
would
be
neat
to
just
have
a
like
to
to
focus
on
having
a
good,
enjoyable,
fun
time
with
each
other
and
think
about
what
some.
A
What
are
some
wild
ideas
we
can
come
up
with,
and
what
do
we
do
that
that
went
well
and
how
can
we?
How
can
we
just
enjoy
the
process
of
this?
Because
it's
it's
pretty
phenomenal,
even
though
it's
got
all
of
its
flaws,
like
just
the
sense
of
us
sitting
here
together
and
talking
about.
This
is
pretty
insane
that
we
all
have
decided
to
come
here
and
do
this
and
look
at
each
other
like
this
and
work
on
something.
A
And
so
I
don't
want
that
to
get
lost
and
when
we
do
these
sensing
sessions,
because
some
it
can
get
heavy
too
and
that's
that's,
I
think,
maybe
a
good
balance.
Vanessa
go
ahead.
B
D
A
Yeah
we
solve
some
stuff
here,
like
I
saw
in
the
chats
like
it
sounds
like
I
didn't
miss
anything
in
these
meetings
to
a
certain
set.
I
feel
like
so
much
great
stuff
happened
and
also
like.
Sometimes
you
don't
feel
that
at
all
or
you've
innovated
something,
but
in
the
end
it
doesn't
have
the
impact
that
you
thought
it
was
going
to,
and
you
can
evaluate
that
and
say
we
spent
a
lot.
We
spent
a
lot
on
this.
What
did
this
accomplish?
Did
it
change
it
for
us,
and
so
I
will.
A
F
Yeah
so
exploring
the
discord
for
the
cabca
discord,
you
guys
have
events
in
there
already
and
you're
rolling,
with
those
looks
like
you're
having
your
second
weekly
call
on
friday,
so
you're
just
starting
doing
weekly
calls.
This
is
what
I've
seen
in
the
last
several
months
to
the
comments,
so
it
has
to
maybe
it
hasn't.
It
hasn't
changed
in
the
last
since
the
last
time
I
was
here,
I've
been
out
for
a
few
months.
F
F
You
need
to
get
with
whoever's,
doing
those
weekly
calls
and
discord
events
and
add
it
to
one
of
those
regular
sessions
and
that'd.
Be
I
mean
I
don't
I
don't.
I
haven't
been
to
you
guys
meeting,
so
I
don't
want
to
be
like
hey,
so
you
should
do
the
meeting
or
anything,
but
if
there's
regular
times
go
for
it.
A
M
A
Thank
you.
That's
it
2300
utc
on
friday,
so
that
those
always
exist
and
we
we
try
to
hash
out
and
get
into
things
in
those.
But
I
do
think
that
I
we
could
use
those
and
that's
a
that's.
X
M
A
X
A
rock
is
that
you
exactly
no,
I
I
I
just
think
that
there
there's
some
fantastic
people
in
here
and
they're,
doing
great
jobs
and
and
really
really
really
care,
and
and
but
after
these
sessions
meetings
on
wednesdays,
I've
noticed
that
there's
this
there's
a
lot
of
emotions
going
on
and
when
those
motions
get
in,
you
want
to
vent
it.
So
we
spent
two
hours
just
listening
to
the
people
of
them.
They
should
have
their
opportunity
to
vent.
X
I
haven't
been
to
all
of
the
meetings
with
tivo,
but
I
can
say
that
we
are
usually
maybe
three
four
five
six
seven
guys,
but
it's
extremely
constructive
during
that
time
and
well
you're,
obviously
seeing
what
people
show
so
you
can
see
what's
going
on
there
and
there
they
are.
I,
like
those
sessions.
D
D
D
There
was
more
editions
than
I
actually
was
able
to
like
capture,
because
I
also
tried
to
like
capture
changes
and
and
resources
provided,
and
there
was
so
many
and
now
the
community
also
is
raising
up
and
creating
these
guides
and
and
directions
and
the
ways
they
onboard
people
like
to
meet
actually
yesterday.
Well,
I've
talked
with
joram,
who
is
from
climate
change,
and
he
we
just
shared
like
how
to
introduce
people
to
the
project
catalyst
and
I
never
thought
of
like
onboarding
companies
and
even
didn't
know.
D
There
are
slight
decks
for
that
and-
and
that
was
like
a
great
way
to
kind
of
again
inspire
me
to
think
differently
to
to
put
like
presentations
and
see
like
how
much
we
have
expanded.
I
don't
know
when
the
challenge
setting
of
cas
like
improvement,
channel
setting
came
out,
but
I
think
this
was
this
one.
I'm
not
sure
was
it
also
last
one
there
and
and
this
because
in
some
funny
to
think
about
it,
but
we
are
like
failing
and
then
these
community
members
like
learn.
D
Oh,
we
actually
have
to
put
challenge
settings
in
ourselves
and
then
we
have
so
many
issues
and
then
oh
okay.
Actually
what
actually
we
should
have
is
scientific
about
improving
the
way
we
coordinate
not
creating
another
d5,
apps
and
open
source,
because
in
the
end
we
want
open
source
in
that.
Okay,
there
are
other
perspectives,
yes,
but
we
are
still
learning
and
we
are
doing
it
in
a
waterfall
method.
D
So
think
about
we're
just
seven
meetings
in
because
it's
a
seven
funds
done,
but
if,
if
you
kind
of
encapsulate
waterfalls,
it's
it's
like
huge
stuff
is
happening.
It
takes
you
months
to
analyze
what
changed
and
now
it's
already
a
new
fund
is
with
like
constant,
like
in
in
like
a
wheel
which
is
going
and
like
crazy
stuff
is
happening,
so
I'm
very
happy
that
I'm
not
able
to
catch
up
with
all
the
improvements
happening,
but
yeah
so
and-
and
still
I
agree
with
the
statement.
Sometimes
that,
like
nothing,
is
changing
these.
D
I
know
it's
it's
an
old
feeling,
but
it
only
happens
in
project
atlas
and
and
like
seeing
this
bunch
of
people
growing
the
number
of
people
having
these
kinds
of
discussions.
It's
just
an
amazing
and
how
do
we
gonna
like
scale
and
adapt
our
workflows
is,
is
something
we
just
we
figure
out.
Probably
in
like
six
months.
Oh,
we
have
40
people
in
the
team.
Now
I
know
what
questions
we
can
start.
How
will
I
speak?
How
we
coordinate
and-
and
I
think
this
is
this
kind
of
facilitation
skill
skills
also
come
over
time.
X
Steve,
I
just
want
to
add
what
you
said
about
companies.
You
know
I
actually
was
in
a
meeting
just
recently
where
there
are
companies
that
are
working
with
sam's
club
and
walmart,
and
they
want
to
build
some
nft
and
for
the
first
time
they
actually
even
thought
about
inviting
cardono,
and
so
yes
I
mean,
when
you
start
seeing
big
companies
like
that
coming
in
and
being
interested,
then
there
needs
to
be
structure
on
the
other
end
on
our
end,
and
I
think
that
they
are
seriously
interested
in
what
we're
doing.
X
Well,
as
far
as
uncle
said,
you're
welcome,
but
he
was
running
it
so.
D
A
I,
like
the
ride,
that's
good!
I'm
conscious
of
zoe's
comment
that
we've
been
here
for
quite
a
long
time.
I
always
enjoy
being
here
quite
a
long
time
with
all
of
you
and
then
also
my
husband's
like.
Are
you
gonna
leave
your
desk?
No,
I'm
not
going
to
which
is
funny,
but
it's
not
so
scott
and
then
zoey,
and
maybe
we
can.
Why
don't
we
give
ourselves
like
a
few
minutes
to
sort
of
wrap
up
and
figure
out
what
we're
going
to
do
here
as
a
result.
T
Yeah,
for
those
that
want
to,
I
don't,
have
this
ride,
participate
and
ride.
I
guess
that's
what
we'll
go
with
if
you
can
log
into
the
discord,
server
and
or
just
just
pay
attention
there
in
the
discord
server
to
the
announcements,
because
I'll
put
up
like
a
win
to
meet,
so
people
can
put
their
hours
that
way.
We
know
that
way.
We
can
accommodate
as
many
people
as
possible
for
the
event
and
if
y'all
want
to
have
like
a
true
event
for
it.
T
If
you
want
to
have
an
unsync,
then
we
can
set
up
a
thread
for
that
as
well.
So
anyway,
I'll
set
up
a
win
to
meet,
put
in
announcements
and
just
fill
it
out
and
that'll
be
on
the
cabca
hub,
more
people
to
fill
it
out.
If
you
don't
fill
it
out,
then
your
hours
won't
be.
T
I
G
Yeah,
just
because
you
said
you
you,
like
the
long
meetings,
I
I
do
so
too.
I
really,
I
really
love,
I
type
the
focus
pokes
and
stuff,
but
it's
it's
not
about
how
long
you
have
to
meeting
it's
about
how
how
you
yeah,
how
you
really
organize
the
breaks
and
stuff,
and
I
just
wanted
to
to
say
that
I
didn't
mean
that
we
should
cut
off
the
meetings
or
something
I
really
just
meant.
I
mean
I
could
go
on
for
days
like
this,
but
with
breaks
you
know,
yeah.
D
Q
Thank
you
nadia.
I
just
want
to
commend
the
work
you've
been
doing
and
it's
great.
I
think
that
this
is
the
way
you
can
sense
better.
What
is
going
on
in
the
community,
especially
with
your
with
your
assignment.
You
know,
I
mean
proposals
is
so
great.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
being
involved
and
yeah
very
impressed
learning
a
lot.
B
I
feel,
but
I
don't
know
if
having
an
event
that
is
kind
of
organized
from
the
ca
channel,
is
like
the
best
way
to
hear
their
voices.
So
I
don't
know
I
I
mean
for
me
personally,
because
I'm
a
ca
as
well.
It
doesn't
really
worry
me,
but
I
do
have
a
sense
that
there
are
people
that
this
won't
reach
and
I'm
just
wondering
would
it
be
possible
for
this
kind
of
wild
ideas
event
to
be
just
not
as
part
of
anything
and
just
a
special
event
that
just
happens
separately
and
is
advertised
everywhere.
A
A
I
I
think
I
agree
with
that
too.
I
might
not
find
myself
I'm
if
I'm
thinking
about
contributing-
and
I
don't
have
the
role-
that's
being
that,
where
it's
being
hosted,
that
alone
might
just
be
like
a
marketing
conflict
in
my
head
about
it.
So
let's
figure
that
out
I
mean
we
could
just
do
a
zoom
and
and
promote
it
in
different
places
and
have
it
be
a
day
and
put
it
up
I'll
stop
go
ahead.
X
Henry
real,
quick,
I
I
I
I
don't
think
you
really
need
to
promote
it.
People
that
are
interested
are
going
to
find
it
up
until,
if
you,
if
we
start
the
group,
what
is
the
old
thing
if
you,
if
you
build
the
field,
they'll,
come
right
so
and
and
then
again,
if
you
start
promoting
it,
you're
going
to
get
everybody
and
nobody
in
there.
X
We
have,
I
started
up
the
meetup
group
here
in
in
the
city
I
live
in
arkansas
and
in
just
three
months
we
have
over
a
hundred
participants,
but
that's
all
word
to
mouth
so
and
and
people
that
want
to
know
they
will
they
will
come.
They
will.
X
A
I
guess
promote
by
promoting
I'm
just
saying
like
sharing
it
like.
We
need
to
have
a
way
that
people
can
find.
I
don't
know
just
so.
This
is
for
this
group
to
talk
about.
Do
we
need
to
just
make
a
zoom
link
and
say
hey
at
this
time,
come
on
and
we
just
share
it
person
to
person
or
what's
the
most
sort
of
broad
and
accessible
way,
henry
henry
go
ahead.
A
You
get
the
award
for
the
briefest
comment
today.
Thanks
is
that
it
for
you
you're,
good,
all
right,
zoe.
G
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
comment
on
what
eric
said
about
the
promotion.
I
don't
see
promotion
and
just
spreading
across
different
channels,
because
the
community
is
operating
on
different
channels.
G
I
don't
see
this
as
promotion
because
you
yeah
it
just
is
that
we
don't
have
one
platform,
but
several
and
many
many
channels,
many
many
servers
and
stuff,
and
I
think
that
it
should
be
promoted,
be
because,
just
because
you
you
want
to
really
give
everyone
who
happens
to
not
have
a
discord
or
happens
to
not
be
on
telegram,
which
I
certainly
understand,
yeah,
just
to
give
them
the
chance
to
also
take
part.
G
And
I
and
I
think
that
making
the
meeting
on
zoom
is
already
very
good,
because
obviously
we
all
have
soon
but
yeah
just
just
to
to
emphasize
the
fact
that
the
community
is
distributed
on
different
platforms.
D
Yeah
today
morning
I
was
listening
four
hours
of
the
space
parts
or
I
don't
know
space
place.
I
don't
know
how
it's
called,
which
is
also
another
community
from
itn
stage
where,
because
state
pool
operators
are
also
a
big
part
of
cardano
and
and
yes
it
and
it
shows
that
there
there's
so
many
other
discussions
and
issues
and
and
in
some
reason
the
time
zone
differs
so
much
and
we
have
others.
So
even
the
time
zone
is
silencing
us
in
somehow,
and
it's
interesting
to
see
that.
D
F
D
I
like
to
get
up
3
a.m,
to
go
to
pacific
town.
That
was
a
good
experience.
F
Yes
and
then,
if
yeah,
that
those
are
common
times
and
then,
if
we
want
because
t
will
you're
right,
we
do
also
style
around
time
zones.
But
one
thing
that
you
want
it's
it's
incredibly
hard
to
get
any
group
of
people
to
come
together
and
pick
a
time
to
meet
asynchronously
using
some
tool
or
anything.
So
it
comes
down
to
who's
go
we
have
not.
F
Maybe
we
need
to
have
a
little
ideation
session
about
how
we
want
to
host
that
meeting
and
then
it's
who
can
host
and
when
are
they
available
and
that's
what
that
ends
up
being
more
of
a
like.
That's
an
important
component
for
actually
making
these
types
of
events
occur.
A
F
D
A
D
While
yeah
and
then
comment-
and
I
think
bruce-
is
doing
a
great
job,
picking
up
these
live
interactions
and
and
like
comments
on
actually
constructive,
facilitated
coordination
of
meetings
and-
and
I
think
this
combination
is
quite
nice-
but
I
know
it's
a
hard
work
but
you're
insane
device
to
help
it
and
make
it
happen.
So.
M
A
A
F
A
A
A
A
No,
that's
that's
where
I
was
saying
it
from
not
that
we
should
have
like
some
regular
meeting
of
talking
about
this.
I
think
naturally,
things
would
spark
from
that
and
it
should
feel
fun
and
lighthearted
and
good,
and
also
we
got
a
lot
of
stuff
to
do
for
this
fun.
So,
but
maybe
we
don't,
you
know
I
feel
like
we
do.
Maybe
that's
my
narrative
and
we
don't
actually
maybe
there's
nothing
to
do
and
everything's
fine,
like
I
don't
know
so.
These
are
the
musings
I
come
to
after
four
hours.
A
A
Well,
I'll
I'll
leave
I'll
leave
it
there.
Then
we
have
this
now.
A
We
have
this
document
open,
which
you
know,
I
think
tibo,
I'm
gonna
start
working
with
you
on
that
I'll
be
excited
to
like
hop
into
that
process,
because
I
think
those
things
could
definitely
merge
and
start
to,
like
at
least
you
know
when
I
log
some
of
these
things
that
have
happened
so
that
we
know
about
them,
and-
and
I
don't
know,
let's-
let's
just
yeah-
that's
it-
I
don't
know,
I'm
just
filling
space
right
now
with
words
go
ahead.
AA
I
have
a
quick
question
and
this
might
be
off
topic
or
it
might
be
something
that
was
mentioned
in
the
town
hall,
that
I
was
in
the
other
room
for
for
a
minute,
but
are
there
any
dates
for
fund
nine?
Yet
at
any?
I
have
people
asking
me:
I'm
recruiting
people
who
are
fun
nine
already
that
are
not
in
our
community
and
I
do.
We
have
dates
for
fun
nine,
yet
of
when
anything
starts.
Yeah
danny.
AB
Before
I
drop
off,
we
have
a
final
meet
tomorrow
to
discuss
some
adjustments
on
the
timelines.
So
that's
why
they
haven't
been
announced
where
we're
looking
into
different
things
like
cool
down
periods
and
maybe
extending
some
of
the
elements
like
within
the
ssqa
stage
as
well.
So
it's
in
the
final
stages
of
giving
us
that
little
breathing
room
in
line
with
the
founding
fatigue
line
the
conversations
that
we've
been
having
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks.
AB
So
I
would
imagine
we
would
have
a
good
confidence
next
week
during
the
town
hall
to
be
able
to
announce
what
that
adjusted
timeline
may
be
fingers
crossed
I'm
trying
to
get
everyone
in
the
same
room
tomorrow,
so
fingers
crossed
and
that's
the
big
task
for
for
tomorrow
on
our
end.
AB
But
that's
the
holdup
essentially
trying
to
see
where
that
fits
over
the
summer,
because
there's
lots
of
d-wrap
consideration
voting
center
and
everything
which
makes
funding
a
little
bit
more
special
and
everything
else.
In
order
for
us
to
deliver
a
bunch
of
those
features
as
well.
So
next
week
on
wednesday,
I'm
hoping
that
we
will
be
able
to
present
that
final
timeline.
AB
AA
No,
but
I
I
actually
think
it
would
be
interesting
if
there
was
a
break
in
funding.
I
mean
that's
just
coming
to
my
head
right
now:
it's
not
like.
I
had
any
thoughts
about
it,
so
if
it
sucks
I'm
sorry,
but
if
there
was
a
break
in
like
funding
rounds-
and
you
just
took
a
month
or
two
to
do
a
catalyst
like
proposer
like
not
not
cattle
school,
but
where
you
had
to
go
through
a
course.
AA
You
know
what
I
mean
where
you
went
through
kind
of
like
an
academy
or
whatever
you
know
what
I
mean
like
that
would
be
cool
because,
instead
of
like
reverse
engineering,
everything
and
trying
to
like
fix
from
the
ca
perspective
like
if
you
fix
the
proposer
and
I'm
talking
about
myself,
if
you
fix
us,
then
there's
I
mean
it's
gonna
be
easier
to
do
all
the
other
stuff.
D
It's
kinda
actually
hard
to
find
people
who
are
willing
to
create
guiding
materials
and
also
facilitate
them
and
the
people
who
started
it
are
now
getting
so
much
feedback
and
their
proposals
are
also
because
they
know
how
it
works.
They
get
funded
and
the
more
they
get
funded
the
busier
they
are-
and
I
know
somehow
it's
hard
to
kind
of
balance,
this
kind
of
educational
stuff.
It's
it's
a
lot
of
work
and
takes
time
and-
and
I
know.
AA
Well,
that's
why
I'm
saying
like
there
should
be
modules.
You
know
what
I
mean
like
pre-recorded
modules,
that
take
a
person
through
something
and
you
have
to
you.
It
has
to
show
that
you've
taken
these
modules
and
there's
quizzes
after
every
module
or
something
and
you
don't
have
to
have
a
person
walking
you
through
it.
D
Friday,
17
utc,
even
he
was
interested
by
gathering
the
group
to
create
an
introduction
to
cattle
project,
catalyst,
educational
courses.
So
it
includes
me
like
few
minute
videos:
it's
a
module.
It's
going
to
be
in
the
catalyst
school
website,
which
is,
I
think,
not
public.
Yet
lucio
is
bossier,
but
let's
see
dropped
off
and
yeah.
D
So
basically,
this
is
happening
if
anybody
wants
to
join
but
yeah.
So
it's.
U
AA
F
It's
interesting.
I
definitely
think
we
need
to
make
sure
mike.
We
I've
been
seeing
michael
around
recently
and
he's
definitely
the
person
who's
got
the
most
energy
in
this
category
right
now,
consistently
over
time.
So
and
dana
you've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
while
and
as
far
as
educational
stuff,
so.
U
And
when
it
comes
to
this
reputation
system
and
like
proving
that
you
have
gone
through
all
this
stuff
and
you
have
jumped
through
the
hoops
check
out
the
remark,
nft's
data
remark:
nfd's
are
awesome.
You
can
have
like
visual
presentation
of
a
nested
nft
that
develops
over
time
and
becomes
something
else
over
time.
So
that
could
be
something
really
cool,
but
maybe
one
day
we
have
something
as
cool
in
cardinals.
A
So
any
any
other
last
stuff
here
start
to
draw
to
close.
A
I
think
it'd
be,
I
think,
it'd
be
nice
to
have
a
broader
one
too
for
other
community,
because
we
could
have
vcas.
We
could
have
cas
like
there's
long,
been
a
call
for
cas
short
modules
of
teaching,
rather
than
a
big
guide
to
read.
So
perhaps
anyone
who
we
could
who
could
make
a
case
for
following
a
model
of
modules
with
short
instructional
stuff
people
could
take
in
over
time
that
would
lead
them
to
having
accomplished
an
if
then
kind
of
a
thing.
If
you
do
this,
then
you
can
do
that.
A
Z
The
actual
risk
associated
with
a
curve
that
is
curving
as
fast
as
this
exponential
singularity-esque
on
the
horizon,
the
implications,
the
ramifications,
the
inevitability
of
what
an
effective
interface
for,
for
instance,
on
zoom.
I
find
it
terribly
frustrating,
but
I
cannot
modulate
the
volume
of
the
zoom
app
easily.
Z
I
cannot
turn
down
the
volume
you'd
like
to
turn
my
volume
down
right
now,
a
little
bit
and
have
it
not
affect
the
classical
music
that
you're
playing
in
the
background
or
the
fact
that
zoom
insists
that
hd
must
be
the
quality
of
each
one
of
your
rectangles.
Why
can't
why?
Why
can
I
not
select
144
if
I'm
in
the
boonies
and
have
not
enough
wi-fi
connection,
and
it's
just
crap,
it's
just
crap,
so
these
are
like
interface.
Z
It's
irrelevant
it's
off
topic,
but
that's
what
that's
just
what's,
on
my
mind,
interface,
when
the
the
advisors,
you
know
how,
how
can
we
leverage
their
you
know
effect
right.
We
need
them
to
have
a
greater
effect
because
there
aren't
enough
of
them
to
do
it's.
It's
a
matter
of
interface.
It's
a
matter
of
interface!
If,
if
you
told
me
that
you
know
some,
you
know
what
an
ape
nft
or
what
some
hot
nft
were
selling,
and
there
were
how
many
of
them
that
were
selling
as
many
proposals
that
needed
to
be
they
would
sell.