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B
All
right,
hello,
everybody,
I'll
dox,
myself
from
scott
ridley,
and
we
are
here
today-
everybody
was
reached
out
to
some
people
aren't
here
that
everybody
was
reached
out
to
was
reached
out
for
the
varying
qualities
and
perspectives
that
they
that
they
offer
and
the
group
is
the
the
team.
B
The
whole
team
ensemble
is
basically
to
we're
here
to
try
and
remedy
some
of
the
issues
that
are
currently
going
on
with
the
seat
with
cas
and
vca
cas
in
general.
As
far
as
the
onboarding
retainment
training,
information
dissemination,
artificial
barriers
and
we'll
cover
that
in
a
little
bit,
we
have
some
slides
to
go
over
and
I
think
right
now
apologize
for
any
background
noise.
You
may
hear
right
now.
I
guess
we
can
open
floor
up
for
people
to
introduce
themselves.
B
If
you've
been
a
ca,
if
not,
how
long
you've
been
at
cardano
and
yeah-
that's
pretty
much
it
just
let
let
us
know
about
yourself
and
I'll
go
first,
so
scott
already
already
called
myself
out,
so
I've
been
in
cat.
I've
been
in
cardano
since
about
june
of
last
year.
I
am
a
ca
of
bca,
I'm
not
a
proposer.
B
I
have
my
hand
in
out
on
many
projects
within
cardano
and
outside
of
cardano,
and
I'm
here
because
I
have
my
biggest
issue-
is
the
dissemination
of
information
and,
as
I
mentioned,
artificial
barriers
that
come
along
with
that,
and
also
the
fragmentation
of
the
platforms
that
we
have,
where
information
is
gathered,
shared
and
communicated
and
I'll
pass
it
to
pasadena.
A
Great,
so
I'm
here
in
the
it's
sort
of
in
the
same
vein
of
scott
looking
to
or
we're
really
sensing,
that
the
the
community
itself
has
really
sent
has
been
sensing
that
our
sort
of
our
sharing
of
information
and
our
collaboration
on
on
solving
some
of
the
communities,
issues
that
we
can
address
is
often
hindered
by
not
having
a
really
sort
of
refined
and
defined
process
that
would
go
through
the
information
and
a
way
to
help
groups
form
to
work
on
those
things.
A
So
there's
a
lot
of
acknowledging
and
sensing
of
problems,
but
once
we
come
to
solve
it,
has
it
been
solved
has
been
worked
on.
What's
the
historical
information,
that's
there
who's
been
thinking
about
this
before
what
are
the
different
perspectives,
trying
to
create
a
little
bit
of
a
hub
for
that,
so
that
the
community
can
can
work
together
and
we're
just
noticing
that,
as
that
doesn't
exist,
what
the
really
effect
is
is
that
people
are
having
difficulty
contributing
and
working
together.
A
So
we're
looking
to
solve
that
problem
a
little
bit
and
so
scott
and
I
have
been
talking
about
it-
we've
had
conversations
with
different
people
and,
as
he
said,
everyone
on
this
call
we're
intending
that.
A
We
have
different
perspectives
both
on
how
to
solve
this
and
representations
of
different
stages
of
people
who
have
been
in
of
involvement
with
as
a
ca,
but
also
within
catalyst,
and
that's
it
so
we're
just
hoping
to
start
here
and
just
be
able
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
we
might
come
to
a
solution
not
totally
from
scratch.
We
have
a
little
bit
of
an
idea
and
we're
hoping
that
we
can
form
that
together
so
on
my
screen,
ilya's
next
to
me,
so
maybe
we
can
go
that
way.
C
Okay,
great
I'm
the
representation
of
the
of
a
uca
that
will
be
first
time
ca
in
this
fund.
I
tried
for
the
previous
round,
but
I
was
too
late
for
enrolling
and
I
really
dislike
disorganized
things
and
not
effective
processes
and
systems.
D
Hi,
I'm
dana.
I
participate
in
catalyst.
I
am
not
a
ca.
I
was
just
brought
here
as
a
third
party
outside
observer
to
listen
to
the
issues
and
help
with
some
insight.
If
I
can,
my
background
is
in
business,
I've
worked
in
corporate
america
at
an
executive
level
for
over
14
years
or
what
my
past
life,
and
now
I
just
consult
and
stuff.
D
So
I
guess
I'm
just
here
to
I've
done
a
lot
of
stuff
with
conflict
management,
doing
a
workshop,
putting
workshops
on
with
that
and
then
also
like
structural
tools
that
I
have
seen
over
my
years.
So
I'm
not
an
expert
by
any
means,
but
if
I
can
offer
support,
I
will.
E
Hello,
so
I
joined
catalyst
on
fan
six.
As
a
proposal,
I
got
a
proposal
more
technical
proposal.
My
background
is
engineering
so
working
on
the
decentralized
id
field
and
when
I
submit
the
proposal,
I
start
looking
all
the
catalyst
processes
and
I
love
it.
So
this
is
a
interesting
experiment
for
me,
so
I
join
as
a
ca.
E
Vca
challenge
team
last
found
this
found,
I'm
also
showing
in
every
maybe
meeting
that
talks
about
improvements
and
that's
why
I'm
here
so
I
try
to
to
make
this
system
works
better
if
it's
possible
so
happy
to
be
here
with
you.
A
Thanks
vanessa.
F
Hi,
I'm
vanessa.
I've
been
involved
in
catalyst
since
maybe
about
well
summer.
Last
year
I
was
a
ca
in
round
six
and
I
didn't
get
to
do
any
in
seven,
because
I
was
too
busy.
I'm
part
of
an
organization
called
qa
dell
that
documents
and
records
circle
meetings
among
many
other
documentation
and
archiving
tasks.
F
I'm
an
artist
and
also
an
archivist
and
I've
been
sort
of
talking
to
nadia
a
little
bit
about
how
the
documentation
from
the
emerging
ca's
circle
might
feed
into
the
documentation
for
circle
circle.
So
she
invited
me
to
just
come
and
see
if,
like
what
was
said
here,
can
help
us
with
that.
G
Jeremy
hi,
I'm
jeremy,
I
got
into
cardano
last
september.
I
think,
looking
for
a
wedding
present
for
a
niece
of
mine
and
funny
where
things
lead
right
found
catalyst
very
soon.
After
that
very
inspired
by
what
happens
here
about
this
emergent
self-governance
idea,
I
am
a
ca
and
did
ca
work
in
fund
seven,
looking
forward
to
do
it
again
in
fund
eight
and
I'm
sort
of
leading
this
ca
sub
circle
initiative
within
initiatives
to
sort
of
characterize
the
roles
and
processes
and
see.
G
What
really
y'all
are
doing
and
what
we're
seeing
kind
of
rise
and
fall
within
the
community
on
a
pretty
regular
basis
of
these
emergent
leaders,
supporters
of
initiatives-
these
are
peoples
who
seek
to
create
positive
change,
facilitate
just
a
healthier
project,
catalyst
and
and
getting
them
support,
seems
to
be
a
major.
D
A
All
right,
perfect
scott
go
ahead.
B
Yeah
so
I'm
gonna
run
through
some
slides
and
if
y'all
could,
if
you
have
questions,
just
write
them
down
or
note
the
questions
that
you
have
get
through
the
slides
first
and
then
then
we
will
anybody
can
ask
questions,
it'll
be
open
floor
and
people
can
ask
questions
at
that
time
and
yeah
yeah
apologies.
Let
me
okay,
nadia's
got
the
link,
so
I'm
gonna
share
my
screen
and
it
will
unfortunately.
B
Let
me
say
I
apologize.
It
was
not
at
the
very
beginning
of
this
all
right,
so
this
is
a
we,
as
we've
already
discussed
about
ca
communications
initiatives.
Workflow
go
for
this
is
to
consider
y'all's
perspectives,
all
perspectives
across
the
broader
community.
B
No,
we
it's
really
hard
to
do
that,
but
we
try
to
pick
everybody
based
on
their
diverse
backgrounds
and
their
perspectives
that
they
bring,
and
it's
also
to
reduce
the
the
noise
and
the
repetition
that
is
common
with
after
town
halls
and
possibly
swarm
where
we're
always
debating
the
same
issue
endlessly
and
the
process
serves
contributors
at
all
levels
as
already
shared
and
we're
hoping
to
create
a
shareable
and
buildable
model,
repeatable
and
sorry
yeah.
B
Sorry,
I
keep
moving
everybody's
faces
around
to
get
at
this,
so
the
current
issue
is
the
communications.
Obviously,
in
this
like,
as
previously
discussed,
the
solutions
are
spread
across
various
platforms
and
varying
people,
methods
of
capturing
that
and
outlining
the
process
and
and
obviously
it's
like
who
takes
ownership,
who
who
who's
the
one
is
in
charge
of
solving
that
or
producing
that
solution
or
or
driving.
The
progress
on
that,
and
also
it
leads
to
duplicating
the
problem.
Sensing
and
repetition.
B
And
the
workflow
model
for
the
collaboration
was
this
yeah
yeah
apologies.
Maybe
I
didn't.
I
think
I
already
went
over
this
one.
B
So,
let's
get
on
to
the
next
one.
So
this
is
the.
This
is
how
we,
and
by
no
means
is
this
a
a
permanent.
This
is
just
a
kind
of
like
rails
guidelines
type
thing.
So,
if
y'all
have
any
suggestions
at
the
close
of
the
slides,
y'all
can
bring
those
up
so
beginning.
Is
the
the
community
observes
an
issue
and
then
an
individual
emerges
and
it
takes
ownership?
It's
probably
one
of
the
more
important
important
parts
of
this.
B
B
And
here
these
are
the
defining
terms
for
the
issue,
so
for
defining
terms
for
the
process.
Excuse
me,
as
a
issue
is
the
opportunity
or
observation
that
is
raised,
that
seeks
community
attention.
Initiative
is
organized
effort,
change,
afford
us
problem
for
the
better
and
is
owned
by
a
champion
and
a
sub
circle,
with
collaboration
managing
github
and
the
champion
is
the
owner
of
an
initiative
who
has
taken
responsibility
of
forming
the
subcircle
who's.
B
B
Scenarios
and
details-
and
so
here
in
the
issue
stage,
you're
raising
an
issue
issues
are
raised
in
many
places.
Obviously
they
don't
aggregate.
So
that's
after
town
hall
channels
telegram.
You
know
pretty
much
anywhere
that
community
members
aggregate
is
that's
currently
where
issues
are
raised
and
discussed,
and
so
there's
not
much.
B
There's
not
much
communication
between
the
platforms
and
those
groups
of
people,
so
the
challenges
was
previously
discussed,
and
so
the
future
is
that
the
community
can
be
directed
to
an
official
hub
to
raise
the
issues
with
a
clear
explanation
of
the
process
and
the
tools
to
use
it
with
the
expectations
that
go
along
with
that.
B
B
If
the
issue
has
already
been
sensed,
then
the
c,
the
ca
community
or
rep
can
connect
the
member
to
an
existing
initiative
in
the
ca
hub
or
as
champion,
and
if
the
issue
is
new,
determine
the
scope
of
the
issue,
whether
it
should
become
an
initiative
whether
raising
whether
the
individual
who
has
brought
forward
the
issue
will
be
the
champion
or
if
a
champion
needs
to
be
found
and
not
all
initiatives.
B
Not
all
issues.
Excuse
me
become
initiatives
and
some
may
be
easily
addressed,
while
others
may
not
of
the
champion
when
a
community
determines
an
initiative
should
be
foreign
in
response
to
an
issue.
The
champion
emerges
to
take
responsibility
for
guiding
the
initiative.
The
role
is
temporary
is
assumed
for
a
strategic
need
and
released
once
need
is
accomplished,
and
this
should
open
that.
B
B
The
initiative
has
a
helpful
guide
and
a
checklist
as
a
method
for
approach
formation
of
the
subcircle,
and
it
aligns
with
the
start
of
an
initiative
with
the
champion.
Initiatives
are
posted
in
ca,
hub
tool,
open
to
the
community,
collect
and
share
the
collaborative
effort.
A
vision
for
a
weekly
recurring
subcircle
process
is,
if
you
refer
to
your
slides,
it
is
in
there
I'm
not
going
to
apologize
for
the
noise,
I'm
not
going
to
open
it
up
here.
We
can
discuss
it
afterwards.
B
Sub
circle
owns
the
responsibility
of
stewarding
the
initiative,
including
involving
the
community
and
content
experts,
designing
solutions
with
auditability
launching
measuring
success,
progress,
reporting
and
archiving
journey
of
an
initiative
through
ca,
hub
tool.
The
initiative
can
move
through
a
workflow
in
github
that
includes
status.
Specific
tagging
links
to
working
google
docs
unsync
meetings,
which
will
be
held
currently
ideas
to
hold
those
in
discord,
and
we
can
discuss
that
if
y'all
have
questions
about
nsync
and
survey
results,
also
comments,
recordings,
discussion,
notes
and
any
other
related
material.
B
Multiple
raised
issues
can
be
can
be
brought
forward
under
they
can
fall
underneath
an
umbrella
for
a
particular
initiative.
Regular
updates
on
initiative,
progress
are
given
at
after
town
halls
chronicled
by
the
subcircle.
Excuse
me
sorry
about
that.
B
Unsync
is
a
hybrid
non-synchronous
meeting
style
that
serves
collaboration,
so
we
can
discuss
that
further
if
you
always
choose
so
what's
the
resolution,
expectations
for
the
resolution
of
initiatives
are
defined
by
the
sub-circle
and
agreed
upon
by
the
community
resolution
may
include
a
captured
consensus,
a
launch,
a
post-launch
monitoring,
excuse
me
and
post
launch
monitoring,
among
other
components
once
the
resolution
is
achieved
and
chronicled
initiative
moves
to
the
archive
time
frame
over
the
res
of
a
resolution
is
initiative.
B
Specific,
however,
ideal
initiative,
duration
is
up
to
one
month
and
how
to
archive
the
definition
of
archive
again
is
the
initiative
has
been
resolved
and
it's
closed
and
it
moves
to
an
archive
move
to
an
archives
tag
or
section
within
the
ca
hub
tool.
Archived
initiatives
can
be
reopened
or
added
to
in
the
future,
if
necessary.
B
B
Yeah
apologies,
some
considerations
for
feedback,
so
these
are
some
general
questions
that
we
have.
How
does
this
feel
what
opportunities
stand
out
or
what
challenges
stand
out?
Does
our
language
work
initi,
such
as
issues
and
initiatives?
B
Are
there
any
other
positive
alternatives
which
tools
would
be
most
helpful,
which
I
think
this
is
super
important,
they're
all
important
questions,
but
I
think
it's
a
super
important
question.
What
roles
do
we
need
to
support
the
process?
B
B
How
might
we
determine
that
an
issue
should
become
an
initiative
as,
as
previously
stated,
some
some
issues
might
not
even
reach
the
the
level
of
becoming
an
initiative,
and
it
might
be
something
simple
to
resolve.
How
might
we
cover
the
terrain
of
channels
to
provide
answers
to
user
users,
questions
and
increase
the
inclusivity
involvement?
B
B
What
resources
do
we
need
to
create
the
support
to
support
this
process
champion
checklist
schedule
for
transparency,
an
issue
submission
form,
proper
tagging
system,
freezing
navigation
of
the
issues,
the
ca
hub
tool,
content
and
details
to
educate
new
users,
training
on
the
ca
hub
tool
for
ca
users
and
a
long-term
vision
for
incentivizing
the
process,
and
these
are
the
source
materials,
the
ca
hub
tool,
choices,
easy
issue,
submission
form,
training
for
users,
on
tools
guides
for
champions,
relationship,
building
for
new
cas
schedule
for
a
weekly
rhythm,
which
would
be
the
unsync
and
what
else
so
I
know
that
was
a
horrible
presentation.
B
A
I
think
we
missed,
I
think
we
missed
the
tools
slide
with
the
github
and
discord
server
on
there.
We
can
click
back
to
that,
because
this
is.
This
is
quite
an
evolved
thing
and
meaning,
like
there's,
there's
a
lot
of
components
to
it,
but
hopefully
it
digests
easily,
and
we
also
recognize
that
some
of
these
things
might
be
new
and
the
tools
might
be
new
so
that
we're
hoping
that
this
discussion
just
starts
with
what
are
your
initial
kind
of
deer
and
headlights
kind
of
questions?
A
I
think
it
is
where
is
that
yeah
this
one
right
here?
So
we
tried
to
define
things
here.
I
know
it's
like
new.
Perhaps
some
of
these
words
might
be
new.
We
try
to
pick
things
that
are
aligned
already
with
the
catalyst
culture.
So
maybe
we
can
start
just
broadly
and-
and
hopefully
you
know,
there's
no
question
too
specific
or
too
broad,
so
we're
thinking.
A
We
could
just
start
to
just
get
feedback
on
how
it
is
to
receive
that
as
a
process,
because
that's
going
to
be
something
to
think
about
for
people
who
are
new
to
come
on
and
for
those
of
you
who
are
very
active
in
some
of
these
tools.
What
is
your,
what
is
your
perception
and
yeah
just
to
sort
of
open
the
floor
and
and
see
where
the
questions
start
and
go?
That's
a
good
learning
part
of
the
process.
This
particular
slide
here
explains
git
book
and
github.
A
So
one
of
the
one
of
the
components
of
this
process
which
will
fall
under
that
champion,
sub-circle,
really
the
whole
thing
everything
after
the
issue
is
raised
is
if
something
becomes
an
initiative
of
a
working
group.
Then
the
working
group
needs
tools
so
that,
ideally,
let's
say
tomorrow-
someone
gets
on
and
asks
a
question
about
something
that
is
being
worked
on
a
group
by
a
group
that
we
could
just
say
to
that
person.
Good
news,
that's
being
worked
on!
A
Here's
here's
where
you
can
find
the
people
who
are
collaborating
on
it
and
what's
being
done
rather
than
having
a
lot
of
having
a
lot
of
discussion
which
is
fantastic
and
the
point
of
having
community
spaces,
but
also,
sometimes
all
of
that
information
is
lost
so
gitbook
and
github.
You
have
links
in
the
actual
slides
there
to
look
at
what
actually
has
been
has
been
started
and
created.
Gitbook
is
more
of
a
almost
like
a
landing
page
space.
A
We
can
give
an
overview
of
of
how
to
approach,
whereas
github
is
more
of
the
management
tool
of
the
of
the
initiatives
themselves
or
projects
like
yes,
sorry
I'll,
give
you
the
link
again
and
then
for
the
discord
server.
This
could
serve
a
similar
purpose
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
perspectives
on
this.
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
key
part
of
this
discussion
is
what
tools
do
we
actually
use.
A
C
B
The
the
solution
is
meant
to
be
a
permanent
solution
as
permanent
as
can
be
made,
but
to
where
it's
also
scalable
and
adaptable.
If
the
for
a
changing
environment,
if
things
happen
to
change.
C
C
But
like,
for
example,
if
if
we,
if
we
take
what
we
already
have
in
in
catalyst
and
in
the
circle,
each
each
fund,
we
have
a
change,
we
have
voting
for
the
for
the
members
of
the
new
circle.
Are
we
doing
the
same
thing
for
this
community
advisor
sub
circle
committee
or
how?
B
Yeah,
I
think
the
I
think
the
circle,
maybe
they
well
that's
the
whole
point
of,
in
my
opinion,
that's
the
whole
point
of
being
building
reusable
tools
and
to
kind
of
get
this
get
this
the
organization,
the
tools,
the
adoption
and
then
possibly
the
other.
B
The
other
entities
themselves
could
use
these
tools
for
their
own
uses.
Aside
from
that,.
B
We
are
here
mainly
for
the
ca
and
vca
side
as
far
as
adopting
tools,
kind
of
centralizing,
the
information
and
the
the
problem,
sensing
for
those
specific
roles,
what
the
other,
what
the
other
entities
I'll
just
call
them
entities
such
as
the
circle
and
iog
what
they
do
is
on
them.
But
you
know
if
we
have,
if
we
have
a
working
platform,
if
we
have
something
that
we
can
show
them
that
works,
then
it
would
just
be.
The
community
would
ask
those
other
entities
to
look
at
this.
Look
at
these
tools.
B
E
B
B
The
information
show
them
where
it's
at
and
show
them
how
to
use
it,
and
then
it
and
then
it's
up
to
the
individual,
whether
or
not
they
want
to
adopt
and
use
that.
I
don't
know
I'll.
I
guess
I
can
defer,
I
I
guess
I'll
hand
not
defer,
but
I
nadia,
if
you
got
anything
you'd
like
to
add.
A
A
A
This
might
not
work
as
well,
but
I
think
it
does
create
the
option
for
subs
for
a
sub
circle,
for
groups
to
form
around
working
on
something
together
and
for
there
to
be
maybe
a
little
bit
of
method
and
guidance
for
that
to
happen,
so
that
the
community
can
understand,
what's
being
what's
being
thought
of
and
designed
to
contribute
to
it
as
they
would
like,
and
so
that
we
don't
have
permanent
roles
that
may
or
may
not
serve
a
need
as
the
the
ecosystem
is
changing
rapidly
and
so
for
for
a
issue
to
be
able
to
be
raised
as
a
champion
to
take
hold
of
it,
a
sub-circle
to
form
to
work
on
it
for
a
short
period
of
time,
and
these
aren't
like
long
initials.
A
This
isn't
like
three
years
of
strategic
planning.
This
is
like
we
need
to.
We
need
to
update
the
handbook.
We
need
to.
You
know,
talk
about
how
we
feel
about
the
lottery.
Those
kind
of
things
where
maybe
a
conversation
or
an
actual
problem.
Sensing
issue
has
has
emerged
that
it
can
be
brought
to
a
resolution,
which
also
is
a
fluid
thing
right.
So
that
resolution
might
work
for
a
period
of
time
and
then
need
to
be
addressed
again
and
so
that
there's
an
archive
so
that
you
know
fund
12,
we're
not
thinking.
E
Maybe
the
tools
may
be
more
critic,
but
I
I
like
those
tools
by
the
way,
but
I
so
I
think
the
first
thing
very
fair
thing
is
to
agree
on
this
process
and
make
everything
jump
in
the
process
and
then
see
what
is
the
tool
that
is
better
fit
for
maybe
each
circle
can
can
do
another
another
two
or
test
a
different
tool
by
the
way
and
see
what
is
the?
What
is
the
best
one?
B
Yeah,
I
agree
that
the
the
biggest
thing
is
the
platforms
like
the
the
landing
page
and
the
centralization
of
access
to
the
information,
but
right
now
believe
it
or
not,
cardano
requires
it
requires
18
platforms
to
stay,
to
stay
abreast
of
all
the
information
that
is
coming
out
on
cardano
18
platforms,
which
is
ridiculous,
might
be
more
than
that.
That's
just
18
that
could
count
dana.
Yes,
apologies
you've
been
waiting
for
a
while.
D
No
worries,
I'm
just
hey
quasar,
I'm
just
observing
listening
in
the
conversation,
and
I
just
had
a
comment
about
I'm
glad.
You
said
something
I
didn't
know
that
18
different
platforms,
that's
probably
also
very
expensive,
because
it
costs
money
to
run
platforms
at
a
level
that
control
that
can
hold
the
amount
of
things
that
are
going
to
be
on
it
and
the
amount
of
users
that
are
going
to
be
on
it
again.
I'm
new
to
I
am
not
a
community
advisor.
I
participated
in
fund
seven
and
just
my
outsider's
opinion.
D
I
don't
there's
lots
of
research
done
on
mice
right
when
they
put
a
bunch
of
mice
in
a
box
and
they
had
no
walls.
It
was
a
huge
thing
and
all
the
mice
were
scared,
so
they
were
in
the
middle
of
the
box.
They
had
no
rules,
there
was
nothing
and
they
were
all
afraid
to
move
about
the
box.
It
was
when
there
was
certain
you
know
like
different
rooms
put
in
that
they
started
to
explore
and
they
started
doing
their
thing.
D
There
needs
to
be
structure,
you
can't
this
cannot
be
a
free-for-all
and
we
worrying
about
well
what,
if
they're
not
going
to
use
it.
I
think
that's
the
problem.
There
needs
to
be
in
order
to
be
a
ca.
You
need
to
follow
certain
requirements
in
order
to
be
a
ca.
You
need
to
be
participating
on
this
platform.
You
need
to
follow
the
rules.
There
needs
to
be
a
structure
of
how
the
flow
of
solving
problems
goes
through.
D
There
cannot
be
five
million
different
ways
how
to
do
it,
because
that's
going
to
be
very
confusing
and
nothing's
ever
going
to
get
done
when
a
problem
or
an
issue
arises,
it
needs
to
be
squashed
so
whether
it
takes
a
month
to
squash
it
or
a
week
to
squash
it
depending
on
the
situation,
it
needs
to
be
handled.
If,
if
everyone's
running
around
with
their
own
ways
of
doing
things
and
there's
nothing
streamlined,
then
you
can't
archive
things
in
a
in
a
streamlined
way,
and
all
that,
that's
just
my
that's.
D
Just
my
opinion,
I've
never
used
git
book
or
github
before,
and
I
was
very
my
side.
This
is
my
second
set
of
the
comments
and
I
was
like
oh
another
thing
to
look
at
right
here,
but
actually
just
clicking
on
the
link.
I
was
very
surprised
that
I
didn't
have
to
sign
up
for
a
new
login
and
like
get
a
I
mean
it
just
took
me
to
the
thing
and
I'm
looking
at
what
you
guys
have
up
here
right
now.
D
Let's
see,
if
I
go
to
the
the
get
book
page,
that's
very
clean.
I
like
it,
it's
clean,
it's
very
easy
to
navigate
through.
I
think,
if
you
have
things
on
there,
that's
that's
it's
pretty
cool.
The
board
is
still
hourglassing.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
just
put
it
in
there
as
like
a
like
a
placeholder
just
to
showcase
what
it
could
look
like.
There's
nothing
in
there
right
now.
D
That's
very
interesting,
another
tool
that
I've
used
in
the
past-
and
I
don't
know
if
any
of
you
are
familiar
with
this-
is
called
the
sauna
and
asana
is
very.
D
You
can
have
different
channels
with
different,
and
I
mean
you
break
it
down
into
like
tasks
with
due
dates
and
people
attached
to
it,
and
then
you
know
all
that
stuff.
It's
almost
like
it
almost
automatically
archives
like
when
when
a
thing
is
done,
then
it
archives
and
and
the
team
goes
away.
You
know
what
I
mean,
so
that's
just
another
tool
that
I
that
I
thought
of
when
you
guys
were
talking
about
this.
So
I
I
can't
really
I've
never
worked
with
get
hub
github
before,
but
I'm
looking
at
it.
It
looks
interesting.
D
D
D
B
B
How
they
have
it
set
up
but
and
noddy,
and
I
have
talked
about
it
and
our
goal
is
to
is
the
ui
in
ux
is
very
important
if
you
want
to
have
user
input
and
and
people
to
use
the
tools
or
to
submit
issues
or
trouble
tickets,
so
yeah,
that's
something
that
we're
focusing
on
and
q.
Yes,
sir,
apparently
you
can't
you
don't
have
a
raise
a
hand
mode
on
yours.
B
Can't
hear
you
so
while
cues
and
if
you
can
you
share
that
sorry
dana.
Can
you
share
the
the
asana?
I
think
that's
what
you
call
asana
arsana
in
the
chat.
Please.
A
One
of
the
I'll,
just
chime
in
on
this
one
of
the
reasons
for
github
as
a
choice.
Here,
it's
not
kind
of
like
a
random
one-
is
that
it's
well
used
by
within
the
within
the
catalyst
community.
Other
things
are
also
well
used,
but
this
is
one
that
that
is
used
with
relative
frequency
and
to
vanessa's
point
in
the
chat
which
I'll
just
say
here.
A
It's
open
source
so
we're
she
says
part
of
archiving
effectively
is
being
sure
you
can
get
data
out
again
50
years
from
now,
asana
is
not
open
source.
So
that's
less
assured.
A
So
yeah,
I
think
it's
not
maybe
the
maybe
in
the
scope
of
this
conversation
to
choose
to
choose
a
tool,
although,
if
they're,
although
I
think
it's
very
helpful,
to
get
people's
insight
on
this,
because
you
know
just
the
the
arrival
and
the
perception
that
it's
technical,
dana
you're
super
used
to
different
kind
of
tools,
but
for
people
who
are
not
or
who
or
who
are
adding
another
one
there
is.
A
There
is
a
sense
of
like
how
do
we
make
this
immediately
feel
accessible
and
one
of
the
things
we
thought
is
to
have
actually
just
like
a
simple,
a
simple
form
which
could
be
built
within
there
as
well
to
let
people
just
say.
I
was
just
thinking
about
this.
B
One
more
thing:
real
quick
is
before
dana
pops
in
and
that's
the
there
are.
There
are,
as
I
said
before,
there
are
a
tremendous
number
of
applications
that
that
can
tie
in
with
with
github
and
another
one
for
for
issue
tracking
assignment
and
such
is
zenhub
there's
another
one.
I
don't
know
how
many
people
are
familiar
with.
Zenhub
zenhub
has
issue
tracking
assignments,
pretty
much
where
it's
at
in
the
in
the
phases,
and
also
completion
and
and
that
ties
in
with
with
github
and
dana
go
ahead.
D
Oh,
no,
I
was
gonna,
say
yeah,
I
didn't
know
the
difference
between
the
the
github
and
the
asana
ones
open
source
one's
not
open
source.
It's
very
interesting,
like
I
said
I
think.
As
long
as
like
I
said,
I
was
surprised
I
haven't
messed
around
with
the
get
book
and
github
stuff,
but
with
the
good
book.
So
gift
book
provides
a
location
of
information
and
the
github
serves
as
the
niche
yeah.
So
the
get
book
seemed
very
cool
to
me.
D
I
think
with
github,
it's
just
like
a
simple
training
or
like
a
little
video
or
something
that
somebody
watches
to
learn
how
to
do
it
or
somebody
can
sit
with
them
like
as
long
as
there's
somebody
teaching
somebody
how
to
use
it,
then
that's
fine,
you
know,
but
for
a
simple
like,
let
me
I
don't
want
to
deal
with
this.
That's
a
google
form.
D
You
know
what
I
mean
you
can
create
a
simple
google
survey
and
it's
one
link
and
you
put
it
in
this
github
this
get
book
and
then
all
the
answers
go
straight
to
a
spreadsheet
and
they're
all
organized
and
they're,
all
on
top
of
each
other
and
then
who's
ever.
Managing
that
back
end
can
just
quickly
see
all
the
things
that
were
submitted
for
the
day
or
for
the
week.
So
yeah.
B
Yeah
and
addressing
the
the
google
google
docs
personally,
that
is,
that
is
not
something
that
I
enjoy.
Is
google
docs?
I
think
it's
overused
within
the
cardano
community,
when
there
are
other
tools
that
are
out
there.
Nothing
against
your
suggestion
on
that
dana.
I
think
it
is
over.
I
think
it's
overused
and
there's
over
reliance
on
google
docs.
D
Any
any
survey
type
of
situation-
you
know
what
I
mean
when
I
say
a
name
of
something
like
I'm,
I'm
agnostic,
I
don't
care,
you
know
what
I
mean
it
works
and
it's
quick
whatever
you
guys
want
to
do.
I'm
just
suggesting,
like
there's,
there's
platforms
that
you
can
go
and
and
write
up
a
quick
survey
and
then
it's
just
one
link
so
that
people
don't
have
to
mess
around
with
finding
out
where
they
need
to
write
it
in
and
all
this
stuff.
B
Yeah,
absolutely,
and
also
going
back
to
your
to
your
comment
on,
was
it
on
the
videos
that
was
another
that's
another
part
of
this
is
to
actually
have
very
short
videos
that
will
actually
walk
people
through
how
to
use
certain
platforms
even
be
it
discord
if
people
need
help
setting
up
discord
notifications,
because
that
seems
to
be
an
issue
for
some
people
when
they
use
discord.
B
So
yeah
the
training,
training
or
tutorial
videos
are
discussed
and
so
we'll
tackle
those,
as
we
start
to
put
all
this
together
and
and
onboard
people
and
get
the
process
to
set
up
to
where
these
these
forms
and
such
issues
can
be
raised
and
the
the
hub
can
be
interacted
with
in
a
proficient
manner.
Ilya.
B
C
I
agree
with
dana
one
platform:
I
don't
care
which
one
if
it's
only
one,
I
can
learn
how
to
use
it,
but
to
learn
18
platforms:
how
to
use
that's
not
like
I'm
trying
to
do
it
because
I'm
really
enthusiastic
about
it,
but
a
lot
of
people
want.
So
we
will
miss
on
a
lot
of
talent
just
because
the
entry
level
is
that
high.
C
C
Is
that
by
design
so
that
we
are
centralized
and
if,
for
example,
discord
or
decides
that
they
will
cut
us
off,
we
can
communicate
through
telegram.
So
is
that
by
design
or
it's
just
a
random
thing
that
emerged
because
different
people
are
used
with
different
platforms
and
one
person
started
here
and
the
other
one
persistent
there
and
ultimately
we
lose
a
lot
of
time.
Circling
around
all
those
platforms
and
trying
to
keep
what's
going
on.
B
B
H
E
B
C
To
be
really
involved,
but
I
don't
want
to
follow
10
different
channels
of
communication.
It's
not
efficient
as
a
process.
B
Overcome
and
the
use
of
git
book
git
book
for
those
that
don't
know,
is
just
a
markup
language.
That's
all
it
is
it's
just
a
website.
This
markup
language,
super
simple,
super
easy
to
use.
Github
is
more
technical.
Like
dana
pointed
out,
it's
more
technical,
it
has
more
integrations,
and
but
that's
the
goal
is
to
kind
of
not
necessarily
force
but
kind
of
put
the
information
on
the
platforms
on
mainly
just
those
those
three
platforms
that
you
see
on
your
screen.
B
The
git
book
github
and
and
discord
for
now.
Discord
offers
a
chance
for
async
meetings,
async
meetings
or
the
unsync
meetings
or
meetings
that
are
they
are.
They
are
moderated
meetings
so
to
speak
like
there
is
always
somebody
available,
but
the
the
meeting
is
like
there's
a
question
so
the
in
this
a
specific
async
meeting,
there's
a
topic
that
needs
to
be
discussed,
let's
discuss
it,
but
everybody
can't
meet
at
the
same
time,
because
everybody's
in
different
time
zones
discord,
allows
that
functionality
to
have
an
async
to
where
we
can
have
a
meeting.
B
That's
open
for
12
hours
have
maybe
a
couple
moderators
that
are
there
for
participants
to
interact
with,
or
it
could
be
a
group
of
people
that
are
there
at
the
same
time
or
there
could
be
overlap
with
people
that
are
part
of
the
team
or
this
or
this
larger
group,
and
then
they
can
have
that
async
meeting
and
have
those
discussions
and
without
having
to
be
tied
to
a
particular
time
a
time
frame.
So
you
would
be
given
a
breath
of
about
12
hours.
B
It
basically
is
to
use
these
three
platforms
to
organize
everything
and
have
it
be
the
landing
page,
and
if
one
of
them
is
not
the
landing
page,
it
has
a
link
to
the
resource
on
the
other
one.
It's
basically
to
consolidate
the
information
and
the
tools
that
are
available
to
the
community
as
far
as
cas
and
bca's
roles
and
positions
and
how,
however,
they
they
interact
with
catalyst.
B
All
that
information
should
should
be
at
these
a
part
of
these
three
platforms
and
they,
instead
of
having
to
use
multiple
platforms
like
18
platforms
that
you
were
speaking
of.
C
B
B
Centralization
information
is
absolutely
critical:
nothing
works
in
a
community
unless
the
community
is
informed
and
the
community
being
informed
is
not
the
people
who
attend
after
town
halls
or
swarm.
That
is
not
the
community
that
is
part
of
the
community.
The
rest
of
the
community
needs
to
be
involved.
People
on
twitter
people
on
reddit
people
on
facebook.
If
there
is
a
facebook
group
everybody,
but
there
needs
to
be
a
central
location
for
everybody
to
connect
to
land
at
and
then
to
go
from
there.
C
Okay,
question
number
two
who
prioritizes
the
problems
raised
so
when,
when
somebody
raises
a
problem
and
then
on
the
slide,
it
was
said
that
we
prioritize
the
problems
and
we
address
them
accordingly.
Who
is
doing
that.
B
Well,
there
are
right
now
it
wasn't
shown
in
the
slides,
but
right
now
there
are,
I
believe,
they're
around
six
different
work
groups
working
groups,
and
so
it
would,
I
would
imagine,
as
as
we
onboard
more
people
and
they
start
to
fall
into
whatever
working
group
they
want
to
fall
into
it
would
be
amongst
them
as
to
since
everybody
should
be
coming
from
a
diverse
background.
It's
not
you
know.
Your
friend
is
coming.
Your
friend's
friend
is
coming
and
everybody's
got.
B
The
same
mindset
should
be
a
diverse
group
of
people
and
then,
when
a
issue
arises,
then
the
working
group
will
will
look
at
the
look
at
the
issue,
decide
its
priority
level.
So
to
speak,
I
mean
everything
is
a
priority
initially
to
actually
look
at
the
issue
and
figure
out
what
the
problem
is
and
then
it
would
go
from
there
and
then,
if
there
are
some
backlog
issues
and
maybe
new
issues
come
in,
those
can
fall
underneath
the
same
umbrella
as
the
previous
issues
that
haven't
been
addressed
yet.
C
Okay,
so
there
will
be
a
working
group
that
will
be
responsible
for
the
all
the
incoming
issues
that
are
raised
recently
and
they
will
organize
them
and
prioritize
them.
B
Yeah,
in
a
sense
yes,
but
you
also
got
to
remember,
though,
the
more
issues
that
come
in
will
obviously
indicate
which
issues
are
actually
a
priority.
So
it's
not
necessarily
just
a
working
group.
It's
the
amount
of
it's
the
amount
of
issues
that
are
brought
forward
by
the
community.
If
there
seems
to
be
a
pattern,
then
obviously
there
will
be
a
a
self-chosen
priority
in
that.
C
Yes,
yes,
okay,
so
and
then
the
next
step
is
that
a
volunteer?
No,
the
the
who
is
raising
up
that
somebody
says
I
will.
I
will
take
care
of
that
problem.
A
If
people
are
able
to
be
there,
we'll
keep
recording
this
as
it
goes
in
case,
people
need
to
hop
off
and
probably
what
we'll
do
is
set
a
follow-up
so
that
we
can
continue
making,
maybe
maybe
making
decisions
and
involve
a
broader
group
as
well.
So
if
you
need
to
hop,
please
do
it
if
you
can
stay
and
want
to.
Please
do
sorry
illegal,
go
ahead.
C
Yeah,
I'm
sorry
that
I'm
occupying
the
whole
meeting,
that's
how
I
feel,
but
I
have
questions
so
the
the
champion
says
I
wanna
deal
with
that
problem
and
I
will
take
care
of
it
and
then
a
group
of
volunteers
are
formed
around
this
champion
and
they
work
on
that
problem.
That's
what
I
understand
and
these
volunteers.
D
D
We
have
an
idea,
we
want
to
test
it
and
then
we
will
adjust
as
we're
testing
it,
because
I
don't
think
anybody
has
the
answer
to
that
right
now,
like
we
need
to
build
data
first,
you
know
what
I
mean
see
see
how
many
groups
don't
get
volunteers.
How
many
do
because
there's
a
lot
of
people.
I
mean
from
my
observation
that
there's
well.
Actually
it's
not
a
lot.
D
My
from
my
perspective,
the
problem
that
I
see
is
information
how
it
is
presented
to
the
public
about
catalyst,
to
get
people
to
be
involved,
and
also
you
know
when
I
hear
as
somebody
who's
not
involved
in
the
ca
thing
like
when
I
come
into
a
town
hall
meeting
more
than
once.
You
know
two
or
three
times
in
a
row
and
I'm
hearing
about
problems
that
are
going
on
behind
the
scenes
with
cas
that
I
had
no
idea
about,
and
now
I'm
freaking
out,
because
I'm
like
wait.
D
You
know
and-
and
I'm
not
saying
that
it
shouldn't
be-
that
thing
shouldn't
be
touched
on,
but
when
you're
talking
about
problems
over
and
over
again-
and
you
know,
a
whole
town
hall
meeting
is
dedicated
to
apologizing
for
something,
and
nobody
knows
what
the
heck's
happened.
You
know
that
that
is
stuff.
That
needs
to
be
taken
care
of.
D
You
know
in
these
types
of
groups.
You
know
what
I
mean
that
that's
that
that's
my
opinion.
So
I
think
this
is
an
experiment
where
they're
just
saying
hey
we're
putting
forth
the
process.
What
do
you
guys
think
because
you're
right
nobody's
gonna
I
mean
they
don't
know
I
mean
that's
just
my
opinion.
What
do
you?
What
do
you
guys
think.
B
No,
absolutely,
it
is
an
experiment
and
it's
meant
to
be:
it's
meant
to
be
a
series
of
experiments
and
experience
short
experiments
that
are
meant
to
be
short
short.
They
start,
they
end
you
iterate
or
you
start
over,
but
you
learn
at
the
end
of
the
experiment
and
that's
exactly
what
it
is.
Nothing
is
nothing
is
set
in
stone,
but
we
have
to
identify
these
processes
that
work
and
these
tools
that
work
in
order
to
create
something,
that's
more
permanent
and
something
that
is
more
useful
to
the
community.
D
D
How
long
are
you
gonna
do
this
iteration
before
before
you
take
a
look
at
the
data
you
get
back
in
this
group
or
whatever,
and
you
say:
okay,
we
need
to
pivot
now
and
try
something
else
and
do
this
like
because,
like
ilia
was
saying,
if
every
three
months
it's
changing
and
this
conversation
is
like
it
is
just
like
you
know,
starting
you're
recreating
the
wheel
every
time
you
know
it's,
it's
got
to
be
shorter
than
that
three
month
period,
it's
like
so
maybe
the
time
frame
is
what
needs
to
be
decided
as
to
hey
we're
going
to
try
like
this
for
a
certain
amount
of
time
and
see
what
happens
or
do
you
think
it
needs
to
be
the
whole
length,
because
now
I'm
thinking,
okay,
a
whole
cycle
of
the
process
needs
to
be
gone
about,
so
that
you
can
see
what
problems
are
arising
throughout
the
whole
thing.
B
B
Have
our
goals
laid
out,
not
have
the
goals
as
far
as
like
the
platforms
laid
out
appropriately
get
everything
set
up
for
people
to
interact
with,
but
then,
as
far
as
the
experiments
goes
regardless.
If
there's
like
a
a
definitive
stop
to
an
experiment,
I
don't
think
there
necessarily
will
be.
I
think
there'll
just
be
a
an
evolving
and
evolving
process
whereas
well
you
know
this
didn't
work,
so
you
know,
maybe
I
don't
know.
B
Maybe
discord
didn't
work
so
now
we're
moving
to
zoom
only
or
something
of
that,
whatever
whatever
it
happens
to
be,
but
there's
there'll,
be
a
continual
there'll,
be
a
continual
feedback,
loop
and
iterations,
but
I
don't
know
necessarily,
if
there'll
be
like
a
hard
deadline
for
anything.
Obviously,
the
sooner
things
can
get
done
the
better,
and
maybe
there
does
need
to
be
some
sort
of
deadline
so
to
speak,
or
else
nothing
will
ever
get
done.
You
yeah,
I
mean
at
some
point
you
do
have
to
I'm
with
you
on
that.
B
I
think
at
some
point
you
do
have
to
you
have
to
have
a
set
of
expectations
that
need
met.
D
If
you're
having
regular
meetings,
you
know
that
can
be
an
agenda
item
in
in
your
meeting.
You
know
what
I
mean
like
on
a
weekly
or,
however,
the
cadence
is
for
the
meeting.
That's
always
something
a
point
in
the
meeting.
We're
gonna
review
processes
there
or
we're
gonna.
You
know
any
anything,
stick
out
that
you're
hearing
in
around
the
watering
hole
or
at
the
water
cooler
that
is
not
working
this
week
or
you
know
what
I
mean
and
set
a
time
limit
for
that
discussion,
so
that
it
doesn't
take
up
the
whole
meeting
this.
D
This
is
when
you
have
your
meeting
agenda,
put
time
limits
to
every
part
of
the
you
know,
and
then,
if
there
needs
to
be
sidebar
conversations
and
those
can
be
had
outside
of
the
meeting
or
whatever
go
on
to
the
next
week.
But
you
know
that's
the
way
you're
going
to
be
able
to
understand,
like
you're,
saying
the
evolving
processes.
B
B
You
know
having
that
meeting
and
and
getting
getting
the
getting
the
information
finding
out
how
the
processes
are
are
working
for
the
various
groups
and
right
now,
and
you
have
to
remember
right
now-
we're
like
at
the
very
beginning
so
like
nothing
has
nothing,
has
a
tremendous
amount
of
structure
but
and
that's
kind
of
like
why
we're
why
everybody
is
together
is
to
kind
of
get
the
feedback
that
we
need
and
and
start
putting
those
in
place
because
we
have
to,
and
on
top
of
that
I
require
it.
B
It
requires
commitment
from
people
like
we
can
put
whatever
we
want
to
in
place,
but
I
mean
that's
great:
we
can
have
all
these
deadlines
and
these
goals
and
these
processes
that
we
want
to
develop.
But
if
nobody
commits
then
nothing's
going
to
happen,
I
mean
you
can
look
at
my
team.
I
have
four
people
on
my
team
and
q
is
here,
and
one
of
them
is
off
work.
I
don't
know
where
the
other
two
are
at
so
and
they've
all
been
notified.
B
B
No
I'm
referring
to
like
the
working
groups
there
there
are.
There
are
like
six
working
groups
that
nadia
drew
up
on
a
mirror
board
that
have
that
their
working
group
title
is,
and
I
don't
have
I
can.
I
can
get
the
mirror
board
link
or
maybe
nadia
can
share
it
if
she
has
it,
but
it's
it's
broken
down
into
working
groups.
There
are
working
groups
like
communication
and
then
retention
and
retention
and
onboarding
diversification
and
like
v,
I
think
vca
technical
is
another
one.
A
A
So
then
this
is
another
example
so
long
term,
once
we
have
some
kind
of
a
process
in
place,
this
group
might
disband
where
there
might
be
some
people
in
this
in
an
initial
group
that
continue
around
the
the
the
just
keeping
an
eyeball
on
the
process
and
and
monitoring
it
right.
So
scott
stepped
up
and
said.
This
is
something
I
want
to
do
and
then
we
go
out
and
ask
people.
We
look
at
who's,
been
talking
about
this.
What
should
contribute
to
this?
What
voice?
Don't
we
have
representatives?
I.
D
A
A
little
bit
testing
it.
The
subcircle
idea
has
been
in
development
for
a
while
within
the
ca
community,
but
to
to
scott's
point
like
then
someone
steps
up
and
says
you
know
what
this
is
really
important
and
then
the
group
forms
around
that
the
community
will
naturally
form
that,
but
it
is
a
little
bit
of
like
once
that
happens.
Now.
There's
a
google
doc
over
here
and
there's
this
conversation
over
here
and
thanks
rodolfo.
So
those
people
come
together
and
then,
where
does
that
information
go?
A
How
is
it
centralized
so
that
if
other
people
now
two
weeks
from
now
someone
says
hey,
has
anyone
thought
about
a
subcircle?
You
can
say
yes,
there's
this
group,
that's
working
on
it
and
they're
talking
about
it
this
way,
and
they
have
they
thought
about
that.
No,
and
maybe
you
should
read
this
document
that
was
like
the
purpose
doc.
That
kind
of
a
thing
so
there's
a
place
that
people
can
understand.
A
Is
that
going
to
solve
all
our
problems?
No,
but
it
does
give
us.
It
does
give
us
a
method
and
an
approach
to
to
try
to
address
that,
and
it
also
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
not
put
people
in
a
position
that
they're
going
to
be
in,
for
you
know,
beyond
the
scope
of
what
the
the
issue
is,
so
some
problems
might
take
a
week.
You
might
see
someone
in
an
after
town
hall
group
forms
disbands
quickly.
Next
week,
it's
like
we
did
it.
I
B
B
Maybe
any
improvements
that
we
can
maybe
any
improvements,
but
also
to
see
if
there
are
like
people
that
were
here
if
they
were
still
like
you,
francis
dana
and
elias,
basically,
to
present
this
to
the
people
that
we
had
chosen
and
then
see
if
they
were
still
interested
in
being
part
of
that
being
part
of
the
process
and
the
improvements
and
the
working
groups
and
yeah
that's
pretty
much.
It.
A
It's
important
to
have
it
it's
important
to
have
it
picked
apart
too,
because
in
you
know
it
happens
to
me
every
single
day
where
I'm
like
this
is
going
to
be
a
great
idea
for
that,
and
then
the
next
day,
like
four
things,
are
introduced
that
weren't
here
yesterday,
and
this
is
happening
now
and
this
deadline
is
different,
and
so
you
go,
you
know
it's
you,
you
start
so
it's
important
to
have
it
picked
apart
and
also
to
to
be
accountable
for
for
the
thinking
right.
A
This
is
the
thinking
intact
and
is
this
natural?
Is
this
going
to
represent
what
is
already
happening,
not
creating
something
the
community
has
to
fit
itself
into,
but
seeing
how
the
community
is
sort
of
operating
and
then
kind
of
like
helping
where
things
are
spiraling
in
different
places
that
they're
not
being
contributed.
D
No,
my
only
other
thing
before
I
I
have
to
get
off
here,
because
I
have
another
meeting
at
2
30
and
is-
and
I
know
we're
trying
to-
we
don't
want
to
be
under
the
iohk
arm
and
we're
totally
separate
and
we're
decentralized
and
it's
all
about
autonomy.
D
But
there's
not
very
many
people
who
know
how
to
do
the
human
resources
part
of
it
and
that
is
a
make
or
break
for
any
tribe
any
company.
Anything
that's
trying
to
survive.
So
I
think,
like
you,
you
sit
with
some
like
a
group
needs
to
sit
with
the
hr
and
just
ask
questions.
How
do
you
guys
do
this
and
not
just
a
iohk,
go
to
other
companies
start?
Maybe
a
group
needs
to
start
researching
hr
tactics
from
from
some
of
the
best.
D
You
know,
companies
in
the
world
or
organizations
in
the
world
to
get
an
idea
of
how
catalyst
wants
theirs
to
be,
but
I
just
say:
iohk
because
they're
they're
already
I
mean
they're
connected
to
us
right
now
I
went
they
have
a
there's,
a
team
of
10
people
in
that
department
and
you
know
and
they're
all
women.
Actually,
so
it's
just.
Why
wouldn't
why?
Wouldn't
we
sit
and
ask
you
know
what
are
some
best
practices
that
you've
seen
because
there
are
people
probably
have
a
lot
of
experience.
D
They
probably
come
from
other
companies
and
just
being
able
to
hear
how
they
handle
like
what's
the
biggest
problem
that
you've
had
to
solve,
and
how
did
the
company
solve
it?
You
know
what
I
mean
to
try
to
understand
those
things
that
that's
my
only
two
cents.
There.
D
No,
it's
not
their
job,
but
if
we
ask,
I
asked
pretty
please
nicely:
can
I
set
up
a
couple
hour
meeting
with
you
one
time
and
get
a
group
of
people
there
just
to
kind
of
understand
that
it's
not
something
that
has
to
be
continuous,
but,
like
I
don't
know,
I
don't
see
why
they
wouldn't
why
we
want
to.
You
know,
build
a
relationship
to
under
just
to
understand.
You
know.
I
D
Not
asking
them
to
do
anything
or
to
to
make
anything.
We're
just
saying.
Can
we
interview
you,
you
know
just
like
we
would
go
to
any
other
company
if
I
would
go
to
mcdonald's
and
talk
to
their
hr
team,
hey.
Can
I
talk
to
you?
How
do
you
manage
you
know
30
000
locations
across
the
frickin
north
america
and
a
billion
across
the
globe?
Do
you
know
what
I'm
saying.
B
G
A
D
A
I
think,
but
just
for
the
sense
of
understanding
it,
because
what
what
does
happen
is
people,
but
there
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
passion
in
here
and
there's
so
many
things
to
look
at.
So
this
is
like
a
little
piece
of
the
puzzle,
but
there's
so
much
passion
and
then,
if
that
person
rises
up
in
that
in
that
passion
and
that
then
a
natural
question
we
eventually
can
come
to
together
for
this
group
of
people
is
like.
A
D
You
know
what
would
be
even
better
what,
if
there's
a
catalyst
proposal
that
was
basically
just
raising
some
funds
for
an
unbiased,
un-partisan
third-party
hr
arm
that
just
managed
crazy
that
we
hired
independently
and
then
we
don't
have
to
go
on
anybody
boom.
I
don't
have
to
make
a
team.
I
don't
have
to
go
interview.
Anybody
we
just
have
to
make
sure
we
get
the
right
people
in
place.
D
Gets
hired,
everyone
gets
that's
where
you
have
like
they're,
like
your
mini
teamster
team,
your
your
what's.
It
called
they're
fighting
for
the
catalyst
advisors
and
the
catalysts
and
the
people
to
get.
D
You
know,
I
don't
know
more
pay
better
hours,
le
less
less.
You
know.
A
I
do
think
I
appreciate
everyone's
time.
We
we
we
ran
over
here,
as
we
all
was
doing
kettles,
but
I
I
think
that
the
next
step
for
this,
and
maybe
scott
and
I'll,
put
our
heads
together
about
it
is
maybe
the
next
conversation
is.
How
then
does
this
become
communicated
as
as
an
id?
So
we
have
to
make
some
decisions.
A
We
can
just
build
the
tools,
but
this
is
one
of
those
things
I
think,
if
it
actually
is
valuable,
people
will
naturally
start
using
it
and
if
it's
not
valuable,
people
are
not
going
to
use
it,
and
so
it's
it's
a
little
bit
of
that
like
hit
the
ground
running.
Let's
experiment,
we
got
three
or
four
groups
going
already
who
are
working
on
different
things
within
our
group
and
maybe
we
we
start
to
like
shop
it
and
run
it,
and
maybe
it
naturally
that,
naturally
will
happen.
A
D
You
go
you
have
it,
you
talk
about
it
during
the
town
hall.
You
make
them,
give
you
a
couple
minutes.
You
get
the
people
who
are
really
active
on
twitter
to
push
it
out.
You
know
hey,
this
is
whatever
you
know.
Ca
is
on
twitter.
You,
you
send
it
out
to
all
your
ca
people.
You
have
all
their
emails
and
stuff
right.
No,
no.
A
A
Yeah
I'll
join
something
that's
in
motion
and
see
how
it
feels,
because
the
the
the
rising
and
involvement
of
people,
and
that
the
good
care
of
people
here
should
be
our
should
be
a
prime,
a
priority,
and
if
we
can,
if
we
can
make
that
it
was
not
fun
fun,
seven,
it
was
we.
We
really.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
like
not
what
we're
about
and
just
naturally,
because
so
many
things
happened
and
other
things
weren't
in
place
and
and
it's
okay
and
here
well
now
just
a
couple
things
you
know.
D
Know
I
think,
at
the
very
least,
though,
like
making
sure
that
all
new
ca's
have
to
be
onboarded
with
this
process.
You
know
what
I
mean
like
that's
that's
a
way
to
like
busting.
You
know
what
I
mean
like
at
least
they
know
you
know
who
knows
about
if
old
cas
will
use
it,
but
at
least
people
don't
have
some
sort
of
idea
of
where
to
go,
because
it's
a
part
of
the
onboarding
process.
A
A
D
You
don't
have
to
do
anything
with
it
if
you
don't
want,
if
you
don't
have
an
issue,
but
you
know
what
I
mean:
it's
just
something
that
when
you're
on
board-
and
you
say
hey
if
you
have
an
issue-
this
is
where
you
go.
You
know,
or
this
is,
if
you
want
to
be
a
part
of
a
team,
that
it
solves
an
issue.
This
is
where
you
go
like
check
it
out.
These
are
the
different
working
teams
that
we
have
going
now.
I
I
Onboarding
we're
talking
specifically
to
the
ca,
but
how
is
that
any
different?
It's
different
to
any
new
person.
You
know
like
right
now,
almost
new
people
come
in
and
they
onboard
directly
to
ca,
but
they
do
it's
turned
out.
Yeah,
that's
that's
the
trend,
that's
happened,
you
know
people
come
in
and
they
want
to
get
involved.
They
have
ideas,
they're,
not
really.
D
C
C
D
That
also
needs
to
be
looked
at
too
hey
there
needs
to
be.
You
know.
In
order
to
get
to
that
level,
you
need
to
have
some
sort
of
skin
in
the
game.
You
have
to
have
had
some
experience
with
catalysts
in
order
to
be
a
community
advisor.
I
just
don't
that's
what
I
I
I
I
thought
that
that
was
the
thing
I
didn't
know
that,
like
without
knowing
anything
you
can
just
be
a
community
advisor.
B
Yeah,
whatever
I
was
gonna
say
what-
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
that
we're
trying
to
address,
maybe
not
directly
like
changing
the
requirements
to
be
a
ca
specifically,
but
to
offer
them
the
appropriate
training
that
they
need
in
order
to
in
order
to
accomplish
their
job
or
their.
Basically,
it
is
a
job,
it's
a
volunteer
job,
but
basically
for
them
to
accomplish
their
job
in
the
manner
that
is
beneficial
to
the
voters
and
to
the
vcas
and
falls
within
the
guidelines.
B
D
A
C
A
A
B
D
To
I
do
have
to
click
off
here,
but
for
no
no
other,
and
I
I
feel
like
I'm
sorry,
I've
just
been
the
one
talking
the
whole
time,
but
I
I
think
that
just
I
like
to
I
don't
because
this
is
how
some
other
chains
go,
they
act
fast
and
then
they
apologize
later
that
things
break
and
then
whatever
I'm
not
saying
that
that
cardano
needs
to
be
like
that.
But
when
it
comes
to
like
structure
and
stuff
I
mean
you
gotta
have
something
in
place
and
you
guys
are
doing
it.
D
I
D
Actually,
I'm
going
to
do
some
research
and
I'm
just
going
to
find
some
like
independent
hr
contractors
for
everyone
to
interview,
and
then
we
can
just
pick
one
and
then
make
a
catalyst
proposal
off
of
it.
Right
we'll
be.
I
D
B
A
A
A
I
I
Wonderful,
you
know
the
idea
of
asking
iog
for
things.
While
you
know
I've
asked
people
have
asked
for
stuff
from
them
before
using
linkedin
using
the
catalyst
linkedin
group,
a
lot
of
iod
employees
are
there,
we
can
get
more
there.
That
might
be
a
decent
place.
A
I
Okay,
using
the
linkedin
catalyst
group
might
be
a
decent
place
to
you
know
like
ask
some
of
these
questions
or,
as
a
community,
have
the
conversation
in
linkedin
they'll
see
it
yeah,
and
I
mean
I've
had
another.
I
I
It
a
platform,
I
just
call
it
a
linkedin,
I
mean
it's
the
platform
economy.
Scott,
like
I,
want
all
the
platforms.
I
want
layers
of
platforms,
I
take
platforms
and
de-layer
them
and
then
put
them
back
together
in
funny
ways.
We
can't
blame
everything
on
the
platform.
It's
all
the
people.
B
Yeah,
I
agree
with
you:
it's
not
the
platforms,
it's
definitely
how
people
aggregate
their
data
and
where
they,
where
they
put
it
at
and
kind
of
like
what
was
I
I
think,
nadia
said
it
before
is
like
once
somebody
sees
the
information
they
kind
of
like
oh
great
yeah.
I
understand
it
and
then
that's
it,
but
they
there's
no
there's
no
there's
not
necessarily
any
dissemination
of
that
information
to
other
people
within
the
community
as
well
and
or
at
least
let
them
know
it's
out
there.
I
Yeah
or
people
start
creating
these
google
docs
and
sharing
them
around
and
they
look
like
they're
official.
You
know
like
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
that
swarm
and
qa
dao
and
pace
are
sending
out
look
like
it's
official
stuff,
but
it's
those
are
proposals
or
ideas
or
things
that
aren't
necessarily.
I
Official,
I
guess
it's
there's
some
things
that
we're
doing
that
cloudy
the
the
truth.
I
guess.
B
Yeah,
the
aggregation
of
data
very,
exactly
yep,
so
I
think
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
wrap
up
unless
anybody
has
any
other
pressing
issues
and
we
hope
I
hope
I
don't
know
if
nadia
does
can't
speak
for
her,
but
I
hope
to
see
y'all
again
in
another
in
another,
beat
up
and
hope
we
can
continue.
B
Moving
this
forward
and
actually
have
something,
have
something
that's
actually
productive
and
usable.
I
do
have
one
one
thing:
let's
stop
talking
about
it
and.
I
Right
and
I'm
you
know,
I'm
still
trying
to
verify
it,
so
I'm
gonna
say
that
I
did,
but
I
still
don't
know
for
sure,
but
it's
by
them
it
extending
this
date
puts
us
another
step
closer
to
not
following
catalyst
as
it.
You
know
these
rules
and
allows
us
to
say
hey,
there's
proposals
in
there
now
that
are
actually
ready
to
be
assessed.
I
You
know
this
deadline
was
moved
back.
It
kind
of
sets
a
way
or
a
precedence
or
a
position
for
us
to
move
forward
towards.
You
know
not
challenges
and
funds
and
campaigns,
but
you
know
doing
things
as
they're
ready.
I
B
Absolutely
jeremy
or
ilya
y'all
have
any
anything
else,
you'd
like
to
say
and
nadia
I'll,
let
I'll
let
you
close
to
chat
up.
G
I
And
jeremy
and
ilya
I'd
love
to
show
both
of
you
the
hard
fork
sometime
soon
yeah.
He
just
needs
to.
B
Rename
some
things
but
yeah
now
what
q's
working
on
is
there's
actually
a
great,
I
think
q
use
a
discord.
Server
could
actually
be
a
good
tool,
some
sort
of
some
way
to
integrate
it
with
what
the
goal
of
of
this,
I
guess
would
call
this
a
project,
but
this
project,
I
think,
is
a
way
to
integrate
that
server
with
this
project,
and
that's
it
for
me
before
I
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
being
here.