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B
All
of
so
that
would
be
an
interesting
thing
for
them
for
us
to
guinea,
pig
the,
because
they're,
an
existing
group
and
they're
actually
doing
stuff
would
be
great
to
to
dework
them.
So
maybe
that
could
be.
I
love
that
you're
having
these
d
work
tutorials.
Maybe
that
would
be
a
nice
group
to
sort
of
actually
do
a
physical
walkthrough
of
that
creation
using
that
group
and
there.
E
Yeah,
okay,
yeah.
I've
got
no
issue
with
that,
but
so
I
guess
the
question
is
not
really
a
question,
so
I
guess
that
would
be
part
of
the
ca
working
group
then,
is
like
because
I
can't
like
that's
the
issue
with
having
three
boards.
You
know
you
just
can't
like,
so
I
was
asking:
where
do
you
put
the
rent
or
you
put
it
in
operations?
It
can
fall
under
operations.
If
that's
I
mean,
I
think,
that's
fine
too.
I'm
not
trying
to
be
picky,
but
I
just
don't
want
to
get
sloppy
from
the
get-go.
I.
B
Love
it.
I
love
that
so
yeah
and
maybe
figuring
that
out
is
part
of
the
walkthrough
process.
It
would
be
interesting
to
walk
through
that
whole
thing
and
have
that
recorded
with
them,
because
then
future
groups
is
the
thing.
I
think
that's
a
neat
part
of
the
training
actually
they're
determining
where
it
goes
and
how
it
and
how
it
posts,
and
then
we
could
also
I'm
becoming
like
a
big
fan
of
thinking
about
things
more
like
playlists.
B
B
I
can
do
that
on
the
video
editor
here
we
can
upload
it
as
a
playlist,
so
it's
like
dework
and
then
it's
like
how
to
decide
what
group
you're
in
next
video,
how
to
put
your
thing
on
there,
how
to
put
your
project
up
next
thing,
things
to
consider
when
how
to
tag
like
all
those
things,
so
that
it's
where
it
will
show
up
in
in
the
discord.
Here's?
How
to
talk
about
it
in
discord?
Here's
how
to
move
from
one
thing
to
the
next
thing:
kind
of
a
thing
you
know
what
I
mean.
E
No
you're
not
ruining
my
life.
No,
I
was
thinking
I
I
was.
I
wasn't
thinking
about.
You
know
having
that
group,
do
it
go
through
it,
but
yeah
I
mean
if
we
can
get
everybody
together
before
thursday
and
kind
of
get
that
recorded.
I
mean
at
least
it'll,
be
you
know,
kind
of
like
a
a
beta
run.
I
guess
on
actually
training
people
on
how
to
use
it.
B
B
B
E
A
G
A
B
B
I
put
it
in
the
circle
too,
in
circle
slack
and
the
feedback
from
that
was
like.
What
do
you
guys
think
as
far
as
approach
and
the
approach
just
like
to
put
a
button
on
this
was
let's
get
a
an
initiatives
group
together?
First,
that
would
be
composed
of,
like,
hopefully,
everyone
from
this
group
and
anyone
else.
B
And
then
we
come
back
to
the
main
group,
and
we
present
it
to
everyone,
as
here
are
the
things
that
are
going
to
go
forward.
Not
the
only
things,
but
these
are
the
things
that
should
and
need
to
go
forward,
based
on
the
people
who
have
been
really
working
on
those
issues,
and
hopefully
some
of
the
people
from
this
group.
Like
scott,
you
spun
off-
and
you
took
on
the
communications
group
here
as
its
champion
for
to
use
that
term,
and
then
the
group
formed
around
it,
and
everyone
is
continuing
to
do
that.
B
So
we'll
have
other
issues
and
some
people
will
feel
passionate
about
taking
them
on
and
that
person.
Maybe
the
group,
the
initial
initiative
sub-circle,
which
will
just
have
members
those
people,
perhaps
will
become
champions
and
it'll
spin
off
in
other
sub-circles
that
form
and
then
address
these
kind
of
things
in
what
jeremy
called
a
leadership
going
viral,
which
I
thought
was
really
cool.
B
This
is
really
kind
of
a
captain,
dang
initial
question,
and
I
hope
that
this
is
addressing
it,
because
I
hear
that
loud
and
clear
and
I
feel
that
way
about
it
as
well.
I
do
think
that
some
of
the
things
a
lot
of
sensing
happened
in
fund
seven
and
things
good
things
did
happen.
It
was
quite
kind
of
a
melee
of
issues.
B
It's
gonna
be
okay,
if
the
guide's
not
100
perfect,
it's
going
to
be
okay.
If
we
don't
have
like
the
entire
full
library
of
videos,
but
we
should,
we
should
move
the
needle
forward
a
little
bit
we're
a
lot.
Why
not
a
lot?
I
mean
one
of
the
other
challenges.
I
see
that
this
it
was
like
the
vca
process
was
very
disheartening,
so
I'm
trying
to
put
my
finger
on.
B
Is
it
a
lot
more
disheartening
than
last
time?
Last
time
was
disheartening
for
different
reasons.
Is
this
time?
Do?
Is
it
to
the
point
that
we
need
to
really
like
make
it
make
a
push
for
certain
things
so
that
there's
not
lost
confidence
in
the
entire
because
it?
It
really
is
key.
This
vca,
how
the
vca
process
turns
out
is
the
output
into
into
voting,
and
it's
really
representative
of
what
should
probably.
B
A
What
I
hear
you
saying
is
that,
out
of
all
these
issues
that
have
fed
into
this
dropbox,
there
are
certain
things
that
might
apply
to
this
fund
that
are
priority
that
have
have
if
they
get
solved.
It'll
help
solve
some
of
the
issues
that
you've
been
seeing.
So
maybe
that
group
can
that's
intimate
with
the
ca
vca
process.
A
They
can
prioritize
in
some
way
things
that
are
like
triage.
Like
you
come
into
the
er
like
yo,
a
lot
of
people
have
been
saying.
This
is
an
issue
if
that
gets
triaged
up
to
the
top
like
you're
you're,
the
first
in
the
er
like
that,
might
be
something
that
that
group
and
I
wouldn't
be
comfortable
being
part
of
that
group,
but
but
someone
that,
like
understands
intimately
that
process
they
can
triage
the
issues.
Somehow
it's
just
an
idea.
B
That
is
what
I'm
saying
as
a
process
for
the
f8
log
and
for
the
iterative
dropbox
separately.
I'm
saying
perhaps
really
looking
at
how
this
va
vca
process.
The
outcomes
of
this
vca
process
did
what
we
did
accomplish,
what
we
were
trying
to
prevent
and
what
was
prevented
or
what
was
created
newly
either
by
users
in
the
system
intentionally
or
unintentionally,
and.
B
B
I
think
it's
really
really
important
in
closing
and
then
I'll
shut
up,
and
let
you
guys
just
really
give
me
feedback
on
what
this
is.
We
are
looking
at
the
problems,
we're
we're
like
pretty
much
99
of
the
time.
Looking
at
the
problems,
we're
not
like
patting
ourselves
in
the
back
and
looking
at
all
the
great
stuff
and
the
wonderful
things
that
are
coming
through
it's
much
easier
for
us
to
look
at
those
critically
and
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
them,
which
is
what
we've
been
doing
for
funds
in
a
row.
B
B
H
I
guess,
from
my
perspective
like
if
I
was
a
vca
in
fund
seven
and
then
now
in
front
a
as
well-
and
I
guess
I
don't
have
perspective
what
it
was
like
before,
but
it
definitely
did
feel
different
this
time.
I
don't
it's
hard
to
say
exactly
how
maybe
it
was
because
there
were
less
vcas
working
on
all
the
like.
There
was
less
vcs
just
total.
H
D
D
D
So
we
should
have
a
flow
chart
in
the
propulsion
guideline
and
then
we
have
a
flow
charge
in
a
ca
guideline
and
then
we
have
a
flowchart
in
a
vca
guideline,
so
example,
at
the
moment
we
are
in
vca
guidelines
before
the
21
of
my
time.
I
mean
your
time
my
one
will
be
22nd
of
april
for
voting
so
before
that
voting
time
period
before
the
voting
time
period.
If
I'm
a
ci,
I
have
a
complaint.
D
What
is
the
actual
process
who
approved
for
that
process?
If
and
who
involved
with
that
process
who
implement
and
carry
on?
Who
did
you
put
into
that
process
and
if
that
project
break,
who
are
going
to
take
care
of
that
to
improve?
That?
Is
that
earth
or
ilg,
so
that
from
ci
point
of
view
is
symbol,
clear
cut,
they're
not
jump
up
around
and
then,
if
I'm
a
new
ca,
someone
asks.
Oh,
I
have
this
issue.
Why
is
remove
my
id,
so
someone
from
the
community
would
hey
come
have
a
look
that
link?
D
That's
what
you
should
contact
so
example:
lucas
right,
I
think
lucas
or
michael
he
off,
for
he
offered
the
holiday
for
example.
So
someone
would
fill
his
shoe
because
someone
would
come
and
go.
You
know
I
think
it
come
and
go
so
they
may
not.
Like
my
like
my
couple
day
ago
ago,
I
think
look.
Look
like
luke
has
taken
on
the
reply
with
the
similarity
excel
file,
so
the
ca
they
may
say.
D
Okay,
can
you
ask
that
person,
because
some
of
them
don't
know
and
they,
if
they
don't
know
and
that
they
start
to
flooding
a
lot
of
information
and
then
come
out,
because
some
of
them
maybe
give
them
a
misinformation
so
and
then
the
forum
it
got
a
mess.
You
can
see
that,
like
you
know
so
because,
because
at
the
moment
we
have
four
funded
a
year,
so
in
each
fund
we
have
very
clear
time
frame
to
start
with
that.
D
Okay,
these
are
flow
jars,
if
you
got
problem
here
the
process,
but
to
have
that
process
up
and
run
and
workable
process.
So
we
have
to
come
back
okay,
who
got
to
contribute
that
how
why
we
need
to
come
up
with
that
process,
so
slowly
we
form
with
that.
So
all
our
guidelines
document
would
have
a
proper
process.
If
you
have
that
problem
here,
where
you
got
to
go
and
if
that
not
work,
for
example,
we
keep
learning
all
the
timeline
we
can
think
keep
breaking.
D
So
if,
if
the
process
of
that
flow,
just
not
working,
then
next
time
we
fix
this
again
and
we're
turning
them.
Underneath
us
will
be
fixed
if
it's
not
break
if
it
will
be
break
and
it's
not
workable,
so
ca
then
look
at
oh,
I
know
what
it
is
and
we
say:
okay,
I
know
where
the
problem
now,
instead
of
you
know,
petition
for
two
vote,
three
vote:
who
can
whatever
so
they
have
a
timeline
within
that
term.
You
don't
know
what
you're
out,
so
your
name
would
be
removed.
D
So
if
you
don't
act
upon
them
because
that's
your
interest,
if
you
don't
act
upon
that
time
frame
because
you
need,
we
need
to
tell
them
upfront
not
after
so
again,
if
it's
not
work,
we
can
update
next
time,
so
everyone
have
a
vision
and
then
they
can
focus
on
what
they're
doing
the
same
thing
like
funding
some
some
of
the
proposal
at
the
moment
from
three.
They
have
not
finished
it,
how
long
they
got
a
carrier.
D
Yes,
we
understand
someone
commonly
in
their
team.
That's
true,
because
I'm
more
into
proposal
look
after
now,
some
of
them
just
not
show
up
at
all.
So
it's
not.
It
carries
drag
out
the
burden
from
from,
I
think,
from
iog
as
well,
because
they
had
jason.
Can
you
finish
the
fun
and
the
fundraiser
fun
for
proposal?
Can
you
submit
the
report
so
we
give
them
a
timeline
timeline
and
if
it
is
a
compassion
reason,
six
copic
whatever
it
is
acceptable?
D
D
So
the
process
is
really
important
and
we
have
to
let
them
know
first
question
here:
how
can
we
form
that
process
for
ca,
complaint
process,
feedback
process,
vca,
complaint
process,
disqualified
process,
similarity
who
do
that?
Who
removed
that?
Why
can
we
have
that
in
a
certain
timeline,
because
the
community
timeline
the
ilg,
had
to
comply
with
that,
whoever
removed
it
had
to
post
a
certain
certain?
What
is
that
that
reason?
Why
I
put
it
up
up
front,
so
the
timeline
information
we
had
to
put
up
front.
D
D
B
D
How
long
you
have
to
react
on
your
issue,
if
you
let
the
issue
example
now
some
issue
example
right
vc.
I
know
some
of
them
have
an
issue
now
and
then
they're
not
going
to
report
in
terms
of
reward,
but
they
still
count
as
in
the
good
and
excellent
as
well.
So
if
in
some
kind
of
some
vc
reaction
before
a
certain
time,
so
that
won't
be
kickoff
removal
completely.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
inside
the
voltage,
for
example,
so
something
that
act
on
propanotomical.
D
We
run
we
we
raise
it
with
time,
that's
a
problem
and
then
next
circle
we
repeat
the
same
thing:
okay,
some
people
will
come
back,
we're
not
happy.
Why
are
we
kicking?
I
work
so
hard
for
that
and
some
people
say
why?
Don't
you
do
this?
Why
don't
you
do
that
so
at
least
give
them
a
time
the
box,
so
that
one
will
be
inside
the
guideline
inside
the
guideline
inside
the
guideline.
So
point
one
start
from
here:
two:
three,
the
first:
the
first
box
will
be
five
days
two
days
24
hours.
D
B
B
B
B
B
Perhaps
when
we
perhaps
when
we
go
through,
maybe
in
what
I'm
hearing
and
thinking
about
as
a
result
of
what
you're
saying
and
the
same
thing,
sort
of
to
what
you're
saying
mike
is
maybe
when
we,
when
we
approach
these
periods,
we
need
to
ask
these
questions
from
a
user
perspective
and
answer
them
for
ourselves
very
much
more
like
obnoxiously.
Clearly,
if
this
happens,
then
what
does
this
happen?
If
this
happens,
then
what
if
this
happens?
B
If
this
happens
then
well
what
if
this
person
does
this
well,
can
this
person
do
this
like,
in
the
same
way
that
your
eight-year-old
would
ask
you
like
an
abundance
of
questions
about
things
and
you
get
tired
of
answering
them
and
you'd
be
like?
Why
are
you
asking
so
many
questions
that
that
level
of
redundant
question
asking
and
answering
so
that
there's
a
resource
to
be
able
to.
D
Yeah
the
answer,
though,
easier:
okay,
for
example,
right:
let's
go
this
one
after
the
voting
when
the
vote
killing
right
so
21
21
of
april
and
then
scott
fired
down
me.
I'm
I'm
a
vca
and
then
sim
is
ca
and
he
just
found
out
because
some
rumor
on
the
and
he
do
some
digging
in
investigation
so
lean.
How
come
you
mark
own
sim
for
his
excellent,
excellent
excellent,
but
I
mark
maybe
300.
I
don't
lose
9,
000
plus
and
then
score
say
hey.
This
is
evident,
but
and
then
you
won
the
community.
D
D
D
H
Sign
up
for
later,
but
I
guess
the
the
biggest
issue,
which
is
what
I've
already
pointed
out,
is
the
fact
that
we
have
these
issues
at
least
vcas.
We
have
the
issue
of
how
do
you
rate
proposals
that
or
how
do
you
rate
reviews
that
cas
wrote
about
a
proposal
that
either
was
incomplete
or
whatever
and
they?
You
know
the
cas
kind
of
technically.
H
Don't
follow
the
guidelines
too
well,
but
their
review
is
valid,
given
the
proposal
that
they
reviewed-
and
I
feel
like
when
we're
talking
about
this
whole
timeline
thing
I
feel
like
you-
could
throw
something
in
with
like
the
finalize
stage
where
you
call
vcas,
maybe
or
you
know
you
call
the
ca,
then
probably
the
vca
group
and
you
say
like
let's
go
through
and
as
we're
finalizing
these
proposals,
let's
like
everyone
just
have
like,
have
a
read
through
as
many
as
you
can
read
through
and
just
say.
Is
it
a
complete
proposal
like?
H
H
H
I
H
E
E
E
H
Man
I
mean
you
could
probably
I
don't
know
if
this
would
make
any
sense,
but
you
could
start
you
can
maybe
like
split
rewards
like
all
the
stuff,
that's
dedicated
to
see
a
reward.
You
kind
of
split
that
between
giving
feedback
to
proposers
in
that
earlier
stage
and
then
doing
the
true
like
qa
stuff.
E
Who
is
the
one
that
that
says
that
makes
the
justification
for
the
incentive
like
and
that's
kind
of
where
it
goes
to
like?
I
had
mentioned
something
like
a
reputation
system
where
the
proposer
indicates
that
it
was
beneficial
to
have
that
ca,
help
them
out
during
that
process
and
yeah
I
mean
that's
the
only
way
I
can
see
it
to
where
it's
not
like.
I
mean
it's
still
biased,
but
it's
biased
in
the
proposer's
favor
and
the
proposer
is
the
one
that
we're
supposed
to
be
helping
in
the
first
place
so
yeah.
H
But
yeah
I
mean
that
makes
sense.
I
think
to
have
like
we'd
have
to
probably
write
a
whole
new
document
of
guidelines
again,
but
you
know
you'd
probably
have
the
proposers
go
through
and
be
like.
Okay,
I,
like
the
cs
advice.
I'm
gonna
implement
it
in
my
proposal.
It
was
useful
check
mark
for
that.
You
know
feedback
and
then
maybe
you
kind
of
do
a
similar
thing
of
how
we
give
rewards
for
the
cas.
But
it's
just
based
on
what
you
said.
The
proposers
marked
it
as
yes.
This
was
helpful
for
me.
E
Yeah-
and
I
also
want
to
say
something
too
about
like
what
you
just
said-
captain
and
pretty
much
my
comment
as
well.
If
you're,
a
proposer
and
a
ca
just
blows
up
your
proposal,
just
tells
you
I
mean
they're
tactful
about
it,
but
tells
you
that
this
is
poorly
written.
It's
not
going
to
do
well
for
some
reason
you
take
offense
to
that
and
then
you
run
into
like
it.
B
This
is,
this
is
definitely
like
a
sense
thing
across
the
community.
This
need
for
additional
improvement
of
proposals
and
the
need
for
involvement
in
these
conversations,
especially
by
people
who
don't
agree
with
the
idea
or
the
approach
to
help
take
it
apart,
because
that
is
a
great
person
to
help
you.
Someone
who
doesn't
agree
with
your
approach
is
very
helpful,
but
also
someone
who
just
is
experienced
with
proposal
writing
and
wants
to
help
you.
Let's.
E
Start
go
ahead.
I
just
real
quick
on
the
proposal.
Writing
stuff.
You
know
I.
I
know
it's
a
proposal,
but
it
was
a
proposal
that
was
put
in.
I
think
on
fund
six,
because
I
was
on
that
proposal.
But
it's
tevo
has
a
proposal
factory.
That's
what
he
called
it
and
he's
got
the
many
proposal
workshops
and
then
he
has
a
proposal,
factory
proposal,
factories
to
help
proposers
do
better.
E
E
So
for
one
week
the
proposer
focuses
on
writing
the
impact
statement
and
then
they
get
feedback
from
cas
and
vcas,
and
then
they
come
back
at
the
end
of
the
week.
They
present
their
impact
section
and
then
the
following
week.
They
work
on
the
feasibility
and
then
they
get
feedback
from
other
proposers
and
other
cas
and
bca's.
The
cas
and
vcas
are
independent,
so
they're
they're
kind
of
like
hired
personnel
for
this
job,
basically
kind
of
like
cs
and
vcas
for
catalyst,
and
they
work
on
feasibility.
They
do
a
presentation
on
that.
E
E
But
I
see
something
like
that:
I'm
not
trying
to
push
that
proposal
or
that
project,
but
I'd
see
something
like
that.
As
you
know,
an
educational
tool
and
also
beneficial
to
proposers,
it
could
also
be
used
for
as
kind
of
like
a
side
effect
to
it.
It
could
be
used
for
ca,
training
and
vca
training
as
well.
E
B
B
I
think
that's
like
probably
a
good
exercise
at
this
point
too,
because
we
have
been
thinking
about
this
for
a
while
it'd
be
interesting
to
have
something
like
a
pod
of
people.
Right
you'd
find
a
name
for
it
and
it's
like
a
trio
of
people.
Three
people,
one
person's
your
industry,
expert,
one
person's
your
writing
expert
one
person
is
your
like
filtering
expert,
so
or
one
person
is
looking
at
the
proposal
from
a
ca
vantage
point,
one
person's
looking
at
it
from
an
industry
standpoint.
One
person
is,
is
filtering
something
like
this.
B
B
If
we
had
we,
we
did
have
these
in
the
community
advisor
challenge
right
and
all
these
challenges,
but
the
community
advisor
challenge
the
day
before
had
like
seven
or
eight
proposals
that
weren't
proposals,
then
you're
responsible
for
making
sure
that
you
look
at
those
once
everything
goes,
live
and
make
sure
they
get
filtered
out
completely
right.
So
that's
the
purpose
of
that
person.
Second,
one
is
like
okay,
based
on
how
ca's
are
going
to
look
like
look
at
this
you're
missing
some
meat
on
the
bones
in
these
areas.
B
You
can
think
about
it.
Then
you
have
an
industry
person
who
goes
and
also
by
the
way,
have
you
thought
about
the
fact
that
this
doesn't
connect
to
this,
and
you
need
someone
on
your
team
who
does
this
and
that
kind
of
a
thing
right,
though,
so
that
so
that
it
doesn't
become
such
a
one-on-one
kind
of
a
thing
where
you
have
people
making
comments
that
are
intended
to
be
helpful,
but
aren't
necessarily
improving
the
process
of
submitting
the
proposal
itself.
A
As
an
outsider,
I've
noticed
a
couple
themes
in
the
last
15
minutes
or
so
a
lot
of
timeline
augmentation
like
changes
in
the
timeline
that
would
need
to
be
had
a
lot
more
intermediate
steps
before
before
a
checkbox
or
whatever
finalization
happens
to
in
in
the
idea
of
providing
a
better
end
product
for
the
proposer
to
have
a
better
proposal
like
I've.
I've
noticed
there's
a
lot
of
timeline
and
structural
changes
that
seem
like
we're
talking
about.
A
B
And
that
leads
me
to
think,
like
that's
all
very
process
driven.
That's,
maybe
because
that's
how
we
are
thinking
about
it,
but
the
other
side
of
it
is.
Are
we
recruiting
people
who
are
making
quality
suggestions
right?
That's
the
totally
other
side
of
the
thing
to
the
marketing
point
is:
are
we
focused
on
going
and
getting
people
in
the
industry
who
get
or
could
be
aware
of
this
opportunity
who
could
really
put
in
some
stuff
that
would
be
extra
impactful
and
meaningful?
That
might
be
a
whole
other.
The
other
side
of
the
coin.
E
Well,
that's
in
that
kind
of
where
ca,
school
or
catalyst
school
kind
of
fits
into
the
equation.
As
far
as
I'm
talking
about
yeah
I
mean-
maybe
that's
part
of-
maybe
that's
part
of
catalyst
school
too,
but
there's
no
guide
to
actually
there's
nothing
for
proposers
and
you
know-
and
I
also
don't
I
think
it
should
be.
E
E
You
know,
but
I
mean
honestly,
it
is
all
we
got
now
and
it's
free
market.
So
if
somebody
wants
to
challenge
that
and
provide
a
a
proposer
school,
you
know
a
ca
school
ca,
training,
proposer,
training,
vca,
training,
all
the
more
power,
but
I
mean
right
now:
that's
all
we
got
as
far
as
training
goes
that
I'm
aware
of
I
mean
there
might
be
others
out
there.
Oh
go
ahead.
B
I
J
D
D
D
I'm
sorry!
That's
fact.
I
weakness
that
twice
already
for
last
nine
months:
bang
and
the
person
given
an
idc
crime,
no
weakness
no
base,
no
evidence.
Everything
paraphrased,
I
mean
re-perforate,
say
everything
with
different
target
the
scale.
The
skeleton
of
the
idea
pretty
much
credential,
I
mean
identical
different
color
different
makeup,
different
powder
completely
on
ideal
scale.
D
D
It's
not
because
we
can't
help
them.
We
can't
help
them
to
write,
but
the
question
here
that
if
we
write
and
then
one
of
them
might
be
asked,
can
you
be
on
our
team?
Or
can
you
do?
I
trust
you?
If
I
share
you
more,
you
know
whatever
algorithm,
for
example,
or
the
fees
awesomely
behind
that
that's
the
danger
of
that
so
question
here
how
far
the
proposal
guy
can
go
and
how
much
I
mean
the
the
level
of
involvement
of
collects.
Like
I
don't
know,
school
got
involved,
so
I'm
I'm
helping.
D
I
mean
whatever
grouping
is
in
that
or
that
we're
helping
up
to
the
level
on
that.
Okay,
do
you
have
this?
Do
you
have
that?
Do
you
have
that?
Can
you
put
a
a
precisely
catching
problem
solving
the
title.
Is
that
good
enough
to
catching,
because
that
purpose
is
catching
from
catholic?
Whatever
it's
for
ca
for
velter,
it's
displaying
the
tiny.
You
know
mobile
phone
voting
apps
so
that
we
start
we're,
starting
with
that
and
then
we're
going
down
to
the
ci
target.
D
I
guess
first
the
proposal
it
had
to
be
for
voter
to
read
the
symbol.
That's
three
box
right!
You
know
what
I'm
talking
about,
because
it
would.
Our
voting
app
is
tiny
just
on
the
phone
at
the
moment,
it's
not
on
the
desktop.
So
the
votes
only
read
that
much
so
they
had
to
focus
on
that.
Make
them
make
sure
that
catching
symbol,
and
not
too
much
in
a
high
level.
English,
just
simple:
everyone
can
read
them
regardless.
What
your
background
of
english,
then
we
come
down
to
ca
level.
Okay,
now,
why?
Who?
D
So
if
a
proposal
have
thou
three
main
point
for
voter
to
read
or
ca
to
re
and
for
challenge
team,
which
is
they're
going
to
look
into
the
squares
in
terms
of
the
delivery,
so
I
think
that's
how
we
help
up
to
that
much
only.
We
cannot
go
into
deeper,
so
the
powerpoint
that
we
present
in
which
we
borrow
from
main
school,
the
same
thing
yeah
we
don't
go
into.
Can
you
share
us
ideas
and
that
no?
D
E
D
Yeah
yeah,
I
did
help
a
couple
of
guys
to
rewrite
their
proposal,
but
I
said
please
don't
mention
my
name
another
put
my
name.
I
prefer
referral.
I
I
I
don't
need
I'm
not
saying
I
don't
make
money,
but
it's
no
point,
so
I
help
them
a
lot.
I
help
them
a
lot.
I
help
them
to
write.
I
help
them
to
write
reparations
one
to
one,
but
apart
from
that,
they
know
that
I
make
myself
clear.
I
will
not
put
my
name
in
any
proposal.
Apart
from
my
whatever
the
co-team
member
is
intel.
D
That's
it
that's
all
I'm
in
for
I'm
not
in
for
any
other
proposal
another
and
if
they
trust
me
go
ahead,
if
they
want
to
share
me
with
the
what
am
I
rewriting
so
I
do
that.
I
did
do
that
up
to
this
point,
but
in
terms
of
general,
we
help
them.
We
don't
help
them
in
terms
of
writing
deep
and
we
don't
want
them
to
share
that
in
front
of
them.
The
public
we
don't
want.
D
We
tell
them
upfront,
so
you
share
something
that
you
comfort
to
share
and
you
believe
that
a
common
knowledge
anyone
can
have
it
anything.
That's
your
and
your
your
contribution
in
next
three
months,
please
don
because
some
of
them
naive
some
of
them
just
share
everything
and
then
bang
on,
and
they
sit
there
and
crying
hey.
What
is
up
there
already?
H
Okay,
this
is
a
hypothetical
thing
that
I
just
kind
of
came
up
with,
as
you
guys
were
talking,
and
I
was
hearing
your
ideas
like
what,
if
I
mean
do
you
guys
agree
that
there
it
there
seems
to
be
like
there's?
Sometimes
it
is
like
a
rush
with
the
process
of
like
because
it's
three
months
we
gotta
fit
everything
in
like
yeah.
We
gotta
get
through
this
entire
thing
in
three
months,
and
so
people
kind
of
just
rush
through
they
send
their
proposals.
Up
and,
like
you
know,
things
aren't
as
thorough
as
they
could
be.
B
So
I
think
it
really
does
depend
on
how
you're,
using
how
you're
using
catalyst
for
what
you're
doing
and
the
scale
of
what
you're
doing.
But
I
think
for
the
people
who
are
involved
in
the
process
in
different
roles
that
never
really
stops
because
you,
some
people
are
going
in
each
of
those
roles
from
thing
to
thing.
You've
done
the
proposal
you
submitted
it
you're
done
now:
you're
ca,
now,
you're,
vca
and
now
you're
there.
Now
you
have
to
vote
now,
that's
the
thing
again,
so
it
depends
what
you're,
what
your
involvement
is.
D
H
H
Well,
I
guess,
if
we're
talking
about
maybe
potentially
restructuring,
how
the
process
even
works,
what
if
it's
more
like,
instead
of
just
like
you
know,
this
is
the
beginning
of
the
three
months
and
then
we
end
the
human.
Then
we
start
all
over
again
what,
if
there's
sort
of
a
process,
that's
kind
of
continually
going?
H
I
don't
know
this
might
be
logistically
very
hard
to
do,
but
you
could
have
like
maybe
a
proposer
kind
of
like
cycle.
That's
just
continually
running
helping
proposers
get
their
proposals
ready
whatever
and
then
maybe
you
know
like
say
if
you
think
like
let's
talk
about
like
I
don't
know
the
phd
process,
you
don't
just
go.
Do
some
research
write
a
paper
and
then
you
just
instantly
get
your
phd.
It's
going
to
be
approved
by
a
board.
H
First,
so,
like
you
know,
you're
going
to
defend
your
thesis
or
whatever
it
is
so
like
what,
if
you
know,
there's
something
similar
to
that
where
you
know
proposals
are
continually
going
as
soon
as
they're
ready.
They
can
send
it
through
to
like
this
group
who
says
like
you
know,
yes,
I
agree.
It's
like
you've
thought
it
through.
You've
got
all
your
checks,
you
know,
you've
got
all
your
components
and
then
it
gets
sent
through
to
like
the
you
know,
ca
process,
but
then,
and
then
maybe
you
know,
you've
got
like
you're
voting.
That
happens.
H
I
don't
know
every
couple
months
or
so
so
that,
like
you,
know
people
who
need
to
get
that
funding
like
it's,
because
it's
like
more
continual
of
a
process
than
just
a
chunk.
This
is
it.
We
start.
We
finish
we're
done
move
on.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
thoughts
about
that.
Like
it's
kind
of
just
came
to
mind.
B
B
E
B
Maybe
we
could
like
recently
is
today
he's
just
like:
why
do
we
still
have
this?
So
I
think
we're
the
good
deep
digging
in
conversation
about
at
least
adjusting
it.
I
think
there's
a
real
sense
of
of
the
fatigue
for
a
lot
of
people
involved
in
the
role
specifically
sorry
to
interrupt
you
guys.
First,
two.
H
H
A
A
Distribution
is
dry,
the
logistics
of
distributing
such
a
large
fund.
Out
of
such
I
mean
I
don't
even
know
how
they
do
this,
but
the
logistics
of
distribution
are
driving.
Some
of
the
time
frames
that
we've
been
discussing
and
some
of
the
periodic
nature
of
distribution
rather
than
a
continuous
thing
or
whatever
like
there
is
a
logistical
nightmare,
and
I
don't
god
bless
iog
for
even
doing
this,
but
I
think
that's
the
driving
nature.
A
That
is
a
priori
from
all
our
discussions,
like
it's
kind
of
a
thing
behind
the
thing,
and
I
I
just
think
that's
it.
That's
just
my
opinion,
like
maybe
it's
more
flexible
than
I
understand,
but
it
seems
like
iog
having
to
distribute
this
in
the
nature
that
they
do
is
mandating
certain
structures
to
be
in
place
that
we
would
want
to
maybe
augment
or
change,
but
can't
because
that's
kind
of
the
way
it
is
that's
just
my.
H
A
E
E
Otherwise,
if
they're
going
to
still
distribute
it
every
quarter.
You
know
that,
like
every
voting
is
going
to
be
every
quarter,
then
I
don't
know
how
that
would
actually
affect
a
project
as
far
as
their
funding
goes,
because
if
they
get
approved
like
I
don't
like
we
could
go
through,
like
I
guess
I'm
maybe
I'm
lost
on
like
as
far
as
like.
If
we
start
this
process,
I
don't
see
how
we
like
get
the
proposers
the
ca
and
the
vca
done.
E
I
mean
I
guess
we
could
do
that.
I
might
relieve
some
of
the
load,
but
you
know
it
like
my
thought
was
that
we
do
propose
or
ca
vca,
voter
funding
and
but
I
don't
know
how
that's
gonna
like
if
they're
still
doing
their
proposal
and
then
they
still
gotta
wait
another
two
months,
so
I
mean
it
doesn't
really
solve
that
the
distribution
time
frame,
but.
D
G
G
B
Them
that
cleanup
can
happen
so
in
those
spaces.
So
much
chaos
happens
that
now
we're
all
feeling
disoriented
and
that
happens
at
three
or
four
critical
points
across
the
fund
where,
if
those
things
were
solved,
the
thing
would
run
a
lot
more
smoothly
rather
than
needing
to
change
the
the
time
I
like
the
rapid
funding
idea
from
the
from
from
us
from
us.
When
I
say
rapid
funding,
I
mean
okay,
this
is
done.
It
goes
through
a
process,
it's
finished
faster.
B
E
I
think
yeah,
I
think,
that's
the
issue
as
far
as
like
me.
Personally,
I
feel
it's
the
time
like
you
get
one
week
to
do
this.
You
get
one
week
to
do
assessments
you
get
what
10
days
to
do:
vca,
88
bca's
on
11
000
proposals
and
then
the
guidelines
changing
every
funding
round,
which
is
ridiculous.
There's
nothing,
that's
solid
and
like
if
they
had
done.
E
But
I
think
that
makes
it
difficult
as
well,
because
now
you
got
to
read
a
new
document
figure
out
what's
different
and
I
we're
going
to
have
these
problems
regardless.
It
doesn't
matter
what
we
do
we're
going
to
have
these
problems
until
until
they
either
stop
catalyst
and
then
go
back
and
rethink
everything
or
it
just
dies
on
its
own.
B
So
I
was
on
a
call,
the
other
day
with
with
three
people
that
I
super
respect.
It
was
about
something
completely
different
and
these
three
people
I
know
tried
super
hard
with
the
ca
process
and
we're
new
at
this
time
and
understood
what
they
needed
and
like
did
all
the
stuff
and
they
were
like
nadia.
We
just
want
to
be
honest.
We
did
not.
We
know
we
were
supposed
to
read
the
whole
guide.
B
It
was
too
much
it's
just
you
glaze
over
at
a
certain
point
and
you
just
need
to
get
in
there
and
do
it
so,
no
matter
how
great
a
guide
is
and
how
thorough
and
all
these
changes
we
have
to
it.
Maybe
the
format
itself
is
just
basically
not
digestible
for
people
and
if
we
did
it
in
these
three
minute
video
segments,
so
I
think
we
should
experiment
with
some
diversity,
not
just
meaning
diversity
of
approach.
B
What
would
it
be
like
if
we
actually
implemented
this,
that
the
two
three
minute
video
thing
lin's
was
talking
about
for
three
for
three
funds
like:
let's
just
do
that
this
fund,
and
we
could.
We
could
just
read
the
ca
guide
on
that.
We
don't
have
to
make
it
complicated,
I'm
just
not
suggesting
we
do
that,
but
I'm
saying
certain
things
along
the
way
might
make
a
big
difference.
B
People
might
digest
things
a
lot
easier
and
do
a
better
job
if
you
give
it
to
them
in
a
different
format,
that's
easier
to
learn
and
work
with,
and
if
we
makes
make
these
very
confusing
places
where
people
feel
like
shenanigans
are
happening.
If
we
make
them
a
lot
clearer
in
the
up
front
and
say
like
point
a
to
point
b,
then
perhaps
it
people
can
kick
themselves
less
for
having
missed
something
that
didn't
seem
very
clear
in
the
first
place.
B
Obviously
we
need
a
new
tool.
We
need
a
lot
of
wish
list
kind
of
things,
but
maybe
some
of
the
stuff
we
have
in
place
where
we're
going,
we'll
just
go
read
the
guide.
People
are
like
not
really
you
know
and
to
the
you
know.
We
talked
last
week
about
having
a
website
that
makes
it
easy
for
people
we're
not
making
it
easy
for
people.
B
It's
not
easy
for
people
to
go
through
this
process
and
when
something's,
when
something
is
it's
not
easy
to
write
assessments
so
when
it's
not
easy
to
learn
how
to
write
assessments,
the
whole
thing
just
feels
hard
and
at
the
end
you
just
are
like.
Why
am
I
struggling
so
much
with
this?
So
I
think
some
of
this
is
like
human
things,
where
we
could
just
make
some
of
these
little
errors
and
little
errors
more
more
doable,
captain
dang,
because
I
think
not
everyone,
but
also
specifically
to
your
question
about
the
timing.
B
A
A
lot
more
parties
that
agree
too,
so
this
is
actionable
within
within
our
jurisdiction
without
asking
iod
to
change
up
time,
frames
and
stuff
like
that,
like
so
a
three
minute
video
that
summarizes
and
captures
the
essence
of
of
the
guide
would
be
totally
doable,
something
we
could
totally
do
and
do
now
and
do
for
fun.
Nine.
E
B
D
D
D
G
B
G
Things
and
like
three
little
a
tags
and
I'm
like
oh
yeah,
it's
just
it's
just
so
much.
You
should
see
derek.
I
walk
around
the
house,
I'm
like
I'm
straightening
up.
I
must
have
to
go,
read
the
telegram
channel.
It's
like
so
there's
too
much!
So
if
this
needs
to
be
it
needs
to
be
like
here.
It
is
it's
very
simple.
A
A
theme
for
fun:
nine,
like
taking
pre-existing
taking
pre-existing
structures,
guides
documents
whatever
and
simplifying.
That
could
be
a
theme.
That's
in
it's
in
jurisdiction,
doable,
actionable
versus
changing
time
frames
and
distributions,
and
all
this
kind
of
stuff,
which
is
a
whole
other
nightmare
for
various
reasons,
like
simplification
of
currently
existing
to
try
to
make
it
more
effective
for
the
people
that
we
have
and
maybe
maybe
trying
to
get
more
people
in,
because
it's
easier
like
yo,
it's
easier,
come
in
like
maybe
that.
D
Okay,
I
think
my
idea.
Well,
I
mean
our
idea
agrees
on,
or
we
discussed
last
week
about
having
a
the
number
proposal
next
to
the
username
in
90
scale,
right
for
ca
to
read
the
whole
pointer
for
ca,
because
who
would
read
the
proposal
c
and
not
the
voter
votes?
We
don't
read
them.
I
don't
know
how
many,
but
I
never
read
the
proposal.
D
If
I'm,
when
I'm
going
to
do
a
vote.
Okay,
I
don't
know
how
far
the
id
scale
can
do,
the
infinite
nine
we
talk
about
for
nine.
We
don't
talk
anything
just
you
know
future
plan
apa.
Apart
from
the
process,
I
give
a
timeline.
You
know
the
at
the
flow
charge
about
complaining
about.
You
know
if
I
have.
If
my
id
been
removed
and
what
other
action
got
to
be
followed,
then
at
least
the
ca
could
follow
so
something
that
can
be
in
the
future.
D
G
D
D
Example,
this
writer,
this
writing-
is
a
copy
and
paste
or
from
template,
because
for
the
new
ca,
the
new
vision
that
may
you
can
look
at,
you
can
look
at
what
is
that
narvin
star
dixie,
just
just
out
today
about
who,
using
the
the
tool
a
whole
user
excel
file.
So
there
is
a
lot
of
people
use
a
tool
at
the
moment,
so
I
don't
think
that
website
will
go
anywhere
soon
in
next
six
months.
I
don't
believe
it.
D
So
why
can't
we
just
add
two
more
features
for
fun.
Nine.
Add
the
number
proposal
next
to
that
proposal,
how
many,
how
many,
how
many
proposals
relate
to
the
link?
So
we
might
just
ask
lucy
or
whoever
do
the
export
that
feel
as
well
and
embed
into
the
proposal
in
id
scale
in
in
that
website?
What
about
that?
D
D
B
D
B
D
D
D
I
love
that
crying
at
the
end.
Oh,
come
on.
You
make
the
naughty
thing.
That's
the
reason
why,
anyway,
if
no
one
doing
that
and
do
we
know
that
and
then
how
much
we
can
have
access
to
source
code
then
come
with
the
design,
give
the
commitment
delivery,
so
we
can
use
whatever
fund
available
or
they
delivery
first
and
they
rather
propose
or
they
get
funded
after
and
that's
another
thing,
spencer.
That's
how
I
helping
the
proposal
to
write.
D
I
says
if
you
really
want
to
involve
with
candano,
go
ahead,
delivery
that
so,
when
you
finish
you
don't
have
fun
for
for
a
particular
fund
and
then
you
pre-apply
again
when
until
you
got
a
fund
and
then
you
show
your
evidence,
you
say
complete.
Your
phone
will
draw
a
matter
in
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
You
don't
have
to
wait
for
three
months
of
six
months
and
that's
what
I
apply
as
well
and
hence
so
I
just
don't
do
it
they
just
do
it.
A
And
if
it's
valuable-
and
I
have
no
opinion
on
the
exact
nature
of
this,
but
hence
rapid
funding
mechanism
like
something
that
could
be
incentivized
to
to
get
something
done,
and
I
don't
know
what
money
you
have
or
got
left
or
whatever,
but
that
would
be
the
ideal
mechanism
to
get
something
like
this
done
and
not
wait.
Three
months
to
get
a
tool
like
this
built
yeah,
that's
just
two
cents
can.
D
K
E
B
B
That's
worth
it
yeah,
because
you
you,
then
people
are
going
to
use
the
ca
tool
they're
going
to
use
the
vca
tool,
they're
going
to
use
the
voter
tool,
or
at
least
the
next
two
or
three
funds,
and
if
that,
then,
if
we
have
a
hub
where
we
can
make
it
extremely
super
simple,
we
can
we
can
embed
the
catalyst
school
videos
if
we
need
to
we
can
we
can
put
what
would
have
been
on
the
get
book.
Scott
for
explaining
the
process
of
raising
issues
into
dwork.
B
We
can
put
the
links
to
the
discord
stuff.
We
can
put
all
our
channels.
We
can
put
our
what
lynn
is
talking
about
like
the
blocks
that
say,
here's
what
you
do
in
these
periods
of
time,
there's
a
place
where
all
that
could
live
and
when
we
notice
that
that
something
isn't
there.
We
have
the
ability
to
to
answer
that
question
there
right
now.
We
don't
have
the
ability
to
answer
that
question
except
you're.
Putting
it
up
in
a
you,
could
have
the
working
issues
doc.
B
You
could
have
the
raisin
issue
link
right,
so
I'm
just
posting,
I'm
pushing
a
little
bit
for
the
for
there
to
be
a
hub
of
that
information
outside
of
and
then
all
the
communication.
Everything
else
is
happening
in
discord.
This
is
the
place
where
you
come
to
understand
all
the
rest
of
the
stuff,
but
it's
really
hard
to
it's
really
hard
to
have
that
all
happen.
E
They're
moving
to
a
different
platform
is
my
understanding.
I
think
that's
what
phil
told
me-
or
maybe
he
was
just
talking
about
that-
the
that
the
tool
is
gonna,
hop
off,
but
either
way
he's
looking
for
a
maintainer
for
the
website.
I
don't
that's.
Gonna
have
to
be
some
some
conversation
that
nadia
has
with
phil
or,
and
whoever
else
owns
it
because
he
said
he
has
the
funds.
E
E
Is
there
a
better
place
to
put
it
if
it's
just
temporary,
because
I
mean
I
know,
people
still
go
there,
but
if
the
website
goes
away
or
if
it's
going
to
be
used
for
something
else
and
and
the
community
doesn't
have
ownership
or
the
ca
rep
position
doesn't
have
ownership,
then
we're
just
doing
this
temporarily
and
then
we're
gonna
have
to
recreate
it
again.
Yeah.
A
A
What
happens
when
that
gets
by
the
creator?
Lack
of
funding,
lack
of
interest,
whatever
gets
deprecated
like
it,
but
it's
still
useful
like
where
do
you?
Where
do
you
and
I
don't
know
exactly
the
exact
tool
you're
talking
about
but
anytime,
you
have
this
roundaround
mentality,
but
it's
highly
useful
for
the
community.
A
It
needs
to
be
archived
and
like
maintained
in
some
way
for
the
community.
If
it's
still
useful.
That's
it's
it's
just
a
general
point
and
I'm
not
talking
about
this
specific
tool.
You're
talking
about
I'm
talking
about
anything,
I
don't
care.
If
it's
a
discord,
I
don't
care
if
it's
a
youtube
channel
like
there's,
there's
things
that
have
to
be
maintained-
and
I
can
never
say
this
word
in
perpetuity
like
like
for
longevity's
sake
for
the
community.
D
D
We
must
include
one
maintenance
challenge,
how
that
sounds,
and
that
allocates
a
two
percent
of
the
total
fund
and
within
the
community.
Whoever
providing
the
proposal
into
that
challenge
fund
and
that
child
and
fund
had
to
get
a
proof
of
home
have
to
get
a
consent
from
iog
that
they
must
vote
every
single
fund.
A
G
A
G
A
Governance
infrastructure
for
basic
functionality
of
whatever
system,
if
it's,
if
it's
core
to
the
functionality
of
catalyst
and
eventually
cardano
there
needs
to
be
a
treasury
which
is
not
dependent
upon
proposal.
Three
minutes
later
proposal,
three
months
later
proposal
like
it's,
so
so
what
happens
you?
You
establish
something,
that's
so
core,
so
so
functional
so
useful,
and
then
three
months
later,
just
something
falls
through
the
cracks
and
it
doesn't
get
funded
really
come
on
like
this
is
my
opinion,
though,
just
might
be
yeah.
A
Right
now,
so
so
the
who
controls
it
is
obvious,
but
I'm
not
going
to
say
it
because
feedback
sensor
race,
you
know
it's,
it
depends.
It
depends
on
what
is
established,
what
the
community,
what
iog
drops
like
there?
There
should
be
governance
for
who
controls
you're,
absolutely
right
to
ask
the
question:
no,
what
I'm.
D
D
If
you
input
sorry
go
ahead,
if
the
project
catholic
catholic
website,
someone
put
it
up,
I
would
vote
to
make
sure
they
stay.
They
stay
on,
for
example,
that
too.
So,
if
someone
could
put
that
proposal
in
into
that
maintenance
fund,
I
would
vote
for
that.
So
you
don't
see
a
risk
in
in
something
that
is
so
not
an
example
exam
or
something.
The
community
needs
that
what
I'm
saying.
A
L
B
Risk
really
interesting
as
a
challenge,
because
if
you
have
that
challenge
there,
you
almost
would
write
a
challenge
and
create
sort
of
like
what
we
did
with
cabca.
Here
you
create
a
treasury
and
that
challenges
an
existing
treasury.
Then
you
would
have
to
submit
to
you'd,
have
a
treasury
with
a
governance
framework,
and
you
would
draw
from
that
treasury
based
on
being
a
tool
that
came
and
was
accepted
or
not
so
you'd
have
to
substantiate
your
value
or
the
second
way
is
you
have
a
you,
have
a
standing
challenge.
B
Voting
on
the
things
that
are
the
the
maintained,
so
you
could
do
that
two
ways.
You
could
do
this,
you
could
do
a
treasury
or
you
could
do
the
an
ongoing
challenge
for
always
one
percent
or
whatever,
like
you
said
when
and
then
you'd
have
to
work.
All
those
tools
within
you'd
have
to
figure
out
how
to
have
them.
B
A
There
is
some
value
to
having
the
community
reinstantiate
that
budget
totally.
I
like
there
is
some
value
to
that,
like
almost
like,
they
act
as
a
congress
on
on
the
purse
strings
right.
I
there
is
total
value
to
that.
It's
the
three
month
cycle
is
the
thing
that's
driving
me
nuts,
like
that's
a
little
too
short
to
like
every
three
months.
I
got
asked
for
my
job
back
like
I
got
asked
for
money
to
go.
Do
my
job
like
that?
That's
driving
me
nuts,
but
I
I
agree
with
your
point.
A
There
is
some
and
I,
like
your
experiment,
you're
doing
right
now
with
your
with
the
the
funding
mechanism
for
ca
stuff.
I
I
think
it's
going
to
be
an
interesting
experiment.
I
want
to
see
how
the
community
reacts.
I
want
to
see
how
it
goes
down.
It's
a
great
experiment.
I
mean,
let's
run
some
experiments,
that's
what
we're
doing
right.
H
B
Catalyst
also,
in
my
opinion,
is
not
something
to
outside
of
the
maintenance
of
catalyst
itself
that
should
be
creating
sustainable.
You
shouldn't
need
to.
It
should
give
you
a
it,
should
catalyze
your
beginning,
but
if
two
years
from
now
you're
still
coming
back
to
the
well
and
needing
more
funding,
you
don't
have
something
that
sustains
itself
right.
A
See
but
there's
there's
the
difference
between
core
infrastructure
that
just
needs
rails
to
operate
and
start
up.
Startup
funding
like
if
you're
coming
back
for
startup
funding
every
three
months
that
that
there's
a
problem
there
you
ain't
started
but
for
for
a
core
thing:
let's
just
dumb
it
down
and
say
it
was
something
like
we're
running
a
a
server
to
host
a
website
for
a
centralized
like
place
to
come
for
information,
something
simple,
some
something
that
that's
going
to
constantly
need.
A
Funds
maintained
like
not
much
not
like,
not
even
proposal
worthy,
but
it's
going
to
constantly
it's
a
base
court
infrastructure
that
constantly
needs
maintenance
and
there's
there's
something
about
the
the
institution
itself,
the
governance
itself,
whatever
that
means,
I
don't
even
know
anymore
but
but
something
that's
core,
that's
blessed
about
just
the
institution
itself
that
you
want
to
maintain
versus
coming
and
asking
for
startup
funding.
I
to
me
in
my
mind:
there's
a
differentiation
there.
A
I
don't
know,
but
that's
why
I
like
the
idea
of
a
treasury
like
something
like
whether
it's
one
percent
or
point
five
percent,
or
something
just
just
keep
the
engine
going
just
to
keep
basic
infrastructure
in
place
where
we
don't
have
to
constantly
come
back
at
the
well,
and
this
is
just
my
two
cents.
This
is
probably.
A
See
and
that's
that's
that's
where
we
had
to
have
a
governance
structure.
Hopefully
that
would
augment
and
say
what
gets
that
funding
like
with
without
a
governance
infrastructure
that
can
do
that.
That
can
retro
like
respect
and
look
back
and
say.
Is
this
useful?
Are
we
spending
our
money
wisely?
Are
we
doing
right
by
the
community,
but
right
now
it's
it's
yo
who
wants
some
money,
come,
throw
up
an
essay
and
we'll
vote
for
it
like
it's
there's
just
no.
H
H
I
feel
like
you
could
in
terms
of
determining
like
whether
a
proposal
is
continually
useful.
I
mean
you
can
and
order
flooring.
So
many
groups,
but
like
you
like,
just
similar
to
like
what
the
d-reps
are
or
like
what
they
will
be
soon-ish
like
you
have
that
group
of
you
know
people
who
look
like
retrospectively.
Look
at
these
proposals
and
say:
yes,
it
was
useful,
it
should
be
continually
funded
and
then
I
guess
you
send
it
to
governance
like
it's
like
governance
part.
H
G
O
A
D
L
E
B
E
Well,
it
would
change
if
there's
if
there
are
different
requirements.
I
mean
it
won't
be
a
lot,
but
you
know
as
much
as
that
as
much
as
that
as
much
as
the
guides
change
and
requirements
change
and
it's
it's
still
required
a
little
bit
more
than
maintenance.
It
depends
how
mean
the
changes
are,
but.
B
B
B
A
Love
it
there's
a
treasury
that
that
is
still
accountable
regularly
and
periodically
to
the
community
for
the
usefulness
of
xyz
tool
that
that
is
in
that
funding.
So,
like
you,
create
a
tool
in
some
other
proposal
and
then,
if
you're
in
con
constant
need
of
maintenance
from
catalyst,
then
you
come
to
this
category
and
the
community
gets
to
decide.
Have
you
been
useful
or
not
in
the
last
three
to
six
months.
A
B
N
B
Well,
if
you've
built
a
tool
that
is
useful
and
you're
running
it
and
it's
valuable
for
the
community
and
there's
one
per,
you
could
pass
off
the
ownership
of
that
to
someone
else
like
phil
could
pass
off
the
ca
tool,
but
the
ca
tool
itself
would
still
be
proposed,
not
phil.
So
I
could
then
or
someone
god
forbid
me,
but
someone
else
who
knew
how
to
use
that
kind
of
a
thing
victor
or
sim
or
lynn,
or
whoever
could
then
propose
the
same
thing.
E
A
D
A
B
B
B
So
if
we
ran
those
at
after
as
after
town
halls,
let's
say
like
we
run
the
initiatives
we
parse
it
down.
We
prioritize
it.
We
we
reinvest
those.
Then
we
maybe
look
at
the
things
on
the
timeline
that
are
sooner
sooner
than
later,
like
the
proposal.
Stuff
will
have
to
be
sooner
because
proposals
are
coming
back
up,
doesn't
make
sense
that
we
would
run
those
as
after
town
halls
for
each
of
those
individual
groups.
B
It
would
probably
make
like
10
aftertown
halls,
but
if
you
did
that,
then
people
in
the
community
could
join
those
particular
themes
and
talk
about
them
and
then
we'd
have
a
lot
of
data.
Come
back
and
we
can
work
on
that
simultaneously
versus
having
one
big
group
of
30
or
40
people
in
it,
where
not,
everyone
can
really
contribute
or
talk,
or
maybe
it's
not
there,
for
the
majority
of
the
things
that
are
being
talked
about.
E
They
determine
what's
ca
and
what's
vca
and
what's
outside
of
those
two
scopes,
and
then
you
put
all
those
you
can
have
somebody
or
multiple
people
put
those
into
d-work
right,
put
them
in
the
d-work
suggestions
and
then
whoever
it
doesn't
matter.
How
many
teams
you
have
have
everybody
that's
going
to
be
involved,
go
to
those
boards.
E
And
they
can
upvote
whichever
issues
they
feel
are
critical,
and
if
you
have
some
that
you
feel
are
critical
right
now
they
can
go
ahead
and
be
moved
to
the
to
do
part.
Okay
of
the
board.
Meanwhile,
everything
else
can
be
upvoted
by
people
in
the
server
and
I'll
have
to
check
on
the
settings.
As
far
as
everybody
else,
I
mean
people
can
come
to
the
server
and
become
a
member
just
to
do
that,
which
is
fine,
that's
not
a
huge
step
and
then
from
there
you
can
have
teams
that
form
on
their
own.
E
Hey.
I
want
to
accept.
I
want
to
do
this.
I
want
to
do
that.
They
work
together.
They
set
up
their
own
teams,
nobody's
forced
to
work
with
somebody.
They
don't
want
to
work
with.
Everybody
gets
to
work
on
a
topic
they
want
to
work
on
and
the
team's
formed.
Naturally,
everything
moves
across
the
board.
I
mean
that's
a
perfect
world,
but
that's
that's
how
I
would
do
it
myself.
B
B
A
B
N
E
Can
you
do
this?
Can
all
those
issues
be
put
into
the
community
or
to
the
shared
ideas,
dwork
community
suggestions,
section,
the
entire
community
can
go
look
at
it
and
they
can
upvote
it.
You
give
them
some
time
say:
hey.
You
got
four
or
five
days
to
look
through
these
figure
out.
What's
important
move
it
up
that
way,
then
you're
kind
of
getting
like
non-verbal
feedback
from
everybody,
but
then
you
can
also
get
the
the
the
text
feedback.
Within
the
discord
itself,
I
mean
that's
going
to
create
a
ton
of
of
threads.
B
D
Can
we
do
that
in
google
form,
so
we
collect
the
number
who
whoever
do
the
collector
number?
We
have
a
highest
number
and
we
start
to
do
it.
It's
easy,
but,
and
all
the
people
can
see
the
statistic
as
well:
google,
because
right
now
we
need
a
proper
vote
for
that,
whatever
32
problem
or
something
that
we
have
involved.
L
L
A
B
A
E
B
Let's
create
a
sub-circle
of
people
who
are
going
to
look
through
this
document
initially
and
get
it
in
a
place
where
it
can
be
shared
in
a
prioritization
way
with
the
community,
because
just
because
I
have
a
long
list
of
things
doesn't
mean
that
they've
been
organized
well
or
that
they're
in
the
right
place
or
whatever,
and
so
I
think
it
needs
a
group
of
people
to
look
at
it
right.
I'm
the
only
one.
That's
organized
that
so
I
took
all
that
crap
and
I
went
like
with
it.
B
So
I'm
I'm
hoping
that
there
is
some
initial
buy-in
and
involvement
on
the
prioritization
and
the
parsing
of
those
before
we
do.
Even
if
we
do
that,
we
can,
we
can
do
it
jointly.
D
work
and
a
google
form,
like
lynn,
is
saying
and
merge
that
together
and
add
those
things
later
on
and
all
that.
But
I
think
we
we
built
this
prop.
We
built
this
thing
so
that
it
could
be
used,
so
we
should
be
using
dwork.
B
A
The
first
issue
in
d-work:
what,
if
that's?
What?
What?
If
you
that
card
is
the
to-do
we
get
some
assignees,
we
get
some
champions
or,
like
you
like
to
call
them,
and
we
get
people
behind
that
card
and
move
that
card
across
the
board
as
the
first
representational
use
of
this.
And
then
the
output
of
that
group
would
be
filtering
out
the
rest
of
that
dang
document
to
put
into
dework
like
yeah
right
like
that.
A
D
D
Sorry
there's
one
more
and
then
you
can
stop
the
recording
one
more
that
for
when
you
put
it
up
there,
you
give
them
a
timeline
right.
So
first
we
put
up
to
the
whatever
the
sub
circle
and
then
whoever
joy
circle,
I
mean
feedback
priority
which
one
go
first
say
four
days,
another
that
give
the
community
a
week
who
want
to
join
and
you
form
the
number
after
and
then,
if
you
think
in
put
on
tower
or
after
tahoe.
D
Well
that
says
four
days
and
a
week,
who'll
join
or
not
joins
after
that
reading
right
and
then,
if
you
want
to
go
for
three
months
of
the
circle
or
two
month
of
circle,
and
you
have
to
make
it
clear,
no
pay
only
volunteer,
all
the
white
people
say
come
back
hey,
I
do
the
job
I
need
to
get
by
and
then
all
right,
don't
laugh
at
me.
You
have
to
make
it
clear
and
then
just
like
the
collection,
the
the
whatever
that
report
we
will
collect
based
on
two
fortnightly.
D
I
D
So
you
get
four
days
for
reading
10,
whatever
time
thought
for
whoever
would
like
to
join
the
group
discussion,
I
think
someone
someone
don't
have
time
and
not
have
time
and
then
okay,
if
you
got
a
good
idea,
what
about
that
then
we're
going
to
after
tower
or
not
at
all.
We
do
a
a,
not
sync
discussion
or
communication
and
then
some
whatever
time
they
say.
D
Okay,
this
is
we
close
and
then
we
come
at
the
conclusion
and
we
bring
back
to
the
main
tile
and
then
we
make
the
final
line
so
at
least
whoever
enjoyed.
They
know
how
long
they're
going
to
be
involved.
Are
they
get
paid,
not
gonna
pay
so
because
that
comes
along
with
complicated
conflict
of
interest?
You
see
what
I'm
saying.
D
That's
all
come
with
a
lot
of
facts
behind
that.
Otherwise,
hey
it's
conflict
of
interest.
Someone
tried
to
what
is
a
monopoly,
the
whatever
that's.
You
know
lobby
through
a
need,
whatever
you
know
the
tsunami
happening.
You
know
just
avoid,
put
up
front
and
give
them
three
weeks.
If
you
have
anything
or
two
weeks,
it's
up
to
you,
you
don't
want
to
set
it
up,
so
you
know.
What's
the
issue
is
important.
D
B
It
sounds
like
two:
we
could
give
them
like
a
one-pager
checklist
yeah.
We
did
that
in
the
slides
and
that
checklist
is
like
here's,
the
rubric
you
use
to
define
your
problem
here.
Your
your
your
d
work
should
include
a
problem
that
you've
come
to
in
this
way.
You've
answered
these
three
or
four
questions.
There's
a
nice
rubric
for
that
I've
been
using
that
myself.
B
What
do
you
think
your
timeline
is?
What
will
it
look
like
when
you've
solved
this,
and
then
we
could
also
have
some
group
questions
that
we're
all
trying
to
think
about.
One
of
those
questions
would
be
like
what
are
your
group's
ideas
for
incentivizing
circle
and
champion
participation
in
the
future.
Some
things
we're
trying
to
all
think
about
that.
As
we
go
through
the
process,
we
could
come
back
and
have
a
pool
of
different
people's
experience
and
perspective
on
at
the
end,
because
I
think
this
should
be
incentivized.