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A
So
good
morning,
everyone,
this
is
a
gathering
here
of
those
who
want
to
give
some
feedback.
As
far
as
the
community
advisor
process
here
for
fund
8,
we
try
to
take
these
conversations
real
time,
because
we
are
always
in
the
process
of
sensing
things
that
are
going
on
and
improving
them.
So
this
is
usually
so.
Allison
is
the
champion
of
the
education
and
onboarding
group,
and
that
group
is
usually
thinking
about.
How
do
we
help
help?
A
It
be
an
easier
process
to
join
the
community
advisor
role
and
how
do
we
make
sure
people
are
well
prepared
and
that
that
process
is
reversed
and
accessible?
A
So
usually
we
have
throughout
the
week.
We
have
a
call
that
is
more,
that
sort
of
earlier
in
the
day
and
a
call
that
is
later
in
the
day
and
the
later
in
the
day
call
is
on
friday,
evenings
or
depending
where
you
are
friday
at
23
utc,
and
this
call
we're
thinking
is
going
to
be
maybe
tuesdays
around
12
utc,
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
bookend
and
we
have
the
not
to
over
meet
but
really
to
just
keep
processes
going.
A
So
it
won't
necessarily
be
exactly
the
same
topic
every
time,
but
we
are
able
to
then
keep
some
of
these
things
moving
and
integrated
that
are
ongoing.
So
because
we
have
just
ended
the
community
advisor
week.
A
So
that's
it,
and
so
I
will
just
try
to
figure
out
what
that
feedback
is.
While
I
mute
myself,
but
ultimately,
what
we
want
to
do
here
is
just
make
some
space
for
us
to
come
together
and
talk
about
things
particularly
for
this
week,
and
we
have.
We
do
have
a
hard
stop.
We
try
to
keep
it
for
an
hour
here,
so
we'll
we'll
try
to
get
as
much
in
as
we
can
and
then
continue
as
as
the
week
progresses.
A
So
maybe
I
will
just
pause
there
and
give
some
space
for
you
to
start
to.
Maybe
just
will
give
an
open
space
for
people
to
bring
things
that
have
brought
them
here.
Maybe
what's
brought
you
here
and
what
you're
wanting
to
share
and
then
we'll
let
that
progress
into
a
natural
conversation
about
ideas
for
how
we
think
we
could
manage
as
we
go
and
then
yeah.
So
that's
a
good
beginning.
A
So
all
paul
is
there
and
I
will
mute
myself
and
then
because
we're
a
small
group
here
you
can
just
chime
in
and
put
your
hand
up.
If
you
want
to
respond
to
something
that's
being
said,
but
generally
we'll
let
ourselves
let
ourselves
just
sort
of
leap
into
the
process
and
yeah
there.
We
are
so
I'll,
just
open
the
floor.
You
can
jump
in
and
if
there's
nothing
that
comes
up
then
we'll
take
it.
Maybe
a
little
more
directed.
B
Well,
I'm
happy
to
kick
it
off
and
talk
about
what
brought
me
here.
So
I'm
allison
frahm
and
I've
been
a
ca
for
a
couple
of
funds,
now
been
around
catalyst
for
a
long
time,
and
I
have
a
proposal
in
fund
8
around
running
a
pilot
for
onboarding
and
ca
education,
as
nadia
alluded
to,
and
my
real
interest
is
bringing
the
cardano
self-sovereign
identification
technology
to
the
ca
process
as
a
means
of
stimulating
improvement.
B
B
So
most
of
my
confusing
could
be
done
differently.
Comments
don't
relate
to
the
content
that
would
go
into
the
guide,
but
the
idea
scale
interface.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
much
ability
we
have
to
influence
those.
I
think
that
idea
scale
is
getting
better.
I
really
liked
the
way
and
I'm
also
a
proposer.
Obviously
I
like
the
way
that
proposers
had
to
divide
their
content
into
impact
feasibility
and
auditability
sections.
I
thought
I
thought
that
made
it
more
straightforward
as
a
proposer
and
easier
to
review
as
a
ca.
B
I
think
that
I
can't
remember,
I
think
the
guy
talks
about
this,
but
one
of
the
things
I
think
that's
really
confusing
as
a
ca
is
the
process
of
inputting
three
different
ratings,
three
different
pieces
of
text,
making
sure
that
all
gets
saved
and
having
some
sort
of
feedback
to
know
that
you've
done
it
correctly.
B
I
think
that's
still,
there's
a
lot
of
user
experience
improvement
that
could
happen
there,
especially
for
new
cs
it
actually.
Even
for
me,
I
I
still
sort
of
it's
a
leap
of
faith
that
my
my
views
were
input
correctly
and
saved
and
are
going
to
be
reviewed,
and
I
have
some
other
thoughts
but
I'll
pause
there
and.
A
Great
so
I
took
down
here
the
division
of
the
positive
things
are
also
really
helpful.
We
tend
to
sense
things
that
are
going
wrong,
but
I
think
it
was
really
really.
I
remember
trying
to
fund
seven
trying
to
like
discern
everyone
kind
of
put
things
in
different
places,
discern
where
those
different
categories
were
being
addressed
so
yeah.
A
I
think
that
the
vision
of
the
proposal
submission
space
created
a
lot
of
cohesion
here
and
was
a
lot
easier
for
people
to
look
at
and
if
you
didn't,
if
you
didn't
assess
in
fund
seven,
maybe
that
didn't
wasn't
as
striking,
but
I
think
a
big
difference.
A
The
second
thing
I
have
for
you
is
that
yeah
there's
a
lot
of
comments
about
the
feedback,
not
saving,
and
maybe
we
add
a
little
bit
of
like
process
best
practices
to
the
guide,
not
as
an
official
thing,
but
as
just
like
some
suggestions
like
use
the
ca
tool,
save
it
somewhere
else.
A
couple
people
maybe
could
say
this
is
how
I
do
it.
I
always
get
a
lot
from
other
people's
feedback
and
some
is
very
elaborate,
so
feedback
as
far
as
how
they
write
it.
A
B
B
The
cas
are
making
points
and
asking
questions
that
either
I
could
clarify,
or
I
think
they've
misunderstood
something,
and
you
know
it's
I
that
would
be
a
huge
change
to
the
way
we
do
the
process,
but
some
sort
of
more
iterative
process.
B
And
yes,
I
know
the
the
common
response
is
cas
can
put
comments
during
or
you
know,
potential
cas
can
put
comments
during
the
comment
period
and
that's
the
opportunity
for
back
and
forth
discussion,
but
because
commenting
isn't
incentivized,
it
just
doesn't
happen
to
anywhere
near
the
degree
of
thoroughness
and
diligence
that
happens
during
the
review
writing
process
and
then
there's
nothing
to
be
done
with
that.
I'm
actually,
you
know,
and
one
one
person
in
particular
gave
a
really
good
critique
of
my
proposal
and
said
I
actually
don't
agree
that
the
ca
said.
B
I
don't
agree
with
your
with
your
approach,
but
that's
my
personal
view.
I
don't
think
it's
appropriate
to
impact
the
rating
and
that
person
gave
a
five-star
review,
which
I
really
appreciate
and
all
the
same
I
really
want
to
talk
to
them
to
find
out
more
about
why
they
don't
agree
and
how
I
could
benefit
from
their
feedback,
but
there's
no.
I
have
no
way
to
do
that
and
at
the
same
time
I
strongly
believe
ca
should
be
anonymous.
I
think
that's
an
important
part
of
the
process.
A
Fantastic
yeah
there
there
is.
I
love
that
you're
bringing
this
up
because
on
friday,
a
lot
of
the
conversation
was
around.
Is
there
a
way
to
have
a
more
it's
hard
to
use
to
know
what
language,
when
you're
starting
to
formulate
something?
But
is
there
a
way
that
we
could
have
like
not
a
role
but
like
and
people
who
would
be
in
position
in
a
nice
incentivized
way,
almost
like
the
challenge
teams
to
look
at
proposals
who
have
that
kind
of
expertise?
A
Maybe
that's
a
space
for
people
with
certain
expertise
in
different
areas.
Considering
the
proposals
prior
to
their
official
submission,
then
you
could
have
those
conversations
happen
and
maybe
you'd
have
like
I'm
totally
speaking
off
the
cuff.
So
this
is
not
in
any
way
in
the
works
or
something
that's
officially
happening,
but
maybe
it's
like
nadia
says:
challenge
teams
have
five
more
things
that
they're
responsible
for,
but
something
like
a
challenge
team.
Maybe
it's
like
a
comics
team.
A
You
know
whatever
it
is
whatever
that
you
have
a
people
form
together
and
and
there
they
are
on
to
a
challenge
and
they're
kind
of
like
the
opposite.
End
of
of
the
challenge
team,
the
challenge
team
is
helping
the
proposals
from
one
side
and
the
comments
team
is
helping
them
from
the
other
side
and
they're
able
to
like
really
really
make
these
digging
and
deep.
How
would
this
actually
work?
A
What's?
What's
the
actual
feasibility,
the
multiple
proposals
and
can
be
addressed
there,
that
you'd
have
that
layer
forward
review?
So
I
think
that's
definitely
something
that
we
can
get
a
little
conversation
going
around
and
maybe
encourage
both
with
the
spanning
of
time
here
with
the
funds
having
some
space
to
maybe
stretch
out
a
little
bit.
Maybe
that
becomes
part
of
the
process
as
well
in
an
official
way,
rather
than
a
be
great.
If
you
guys
can
go,
make
some
comments
kind
of
a
way,
awesome.
C
D
D
I
would
have
to
read
the
rules
and
get
to
know
the
challenge
categories,
so
I
chose
not
to
use
that
observing
lurking
on
the
outside
and
especially
with
all
this
stuff
that
went
on
in
fund
seven,
and
I
I
put
in-
and
I
tried
putting
it
in
for
a
dollar,
but
I
couldn't
do
it.
They
wouldn't
let
it
stay
there.
It's
a
fun,
nine
improvement.
D
And
I
got
that
I
was
taking
a.
I
was
taking
a
train
from
washington
dc
to
florida,
where
you
drive
your
car
on,
and
I
noticed
that
they
had
these
ticket
takers
and
they
had
people
that
put
signs
on
the
car
and
they
had
people
that
drive
the
car
and
then
they
had
people
that
drove
the
train.
And
then,
when
you
get
that,
so
I
thought
about
that
in
the
catalyst
process
and
that's
kind
of
where
that
whole
cat's
thing
with
the
observer
and
I
kind
of
put
term
limits
in
which
people
don't
like.
D
But
it
was
kind
of
an
onboarding,
allison
kind
of
an
onboarding
and
easing
in
and
educating
the
observers.
So
then
they
could
become
the
cas
and
the
cas
become
the
vcas
and
the
vcas
go
on
and
and
so
forth.
Read
it
if
you're
interested.
But
I
had
three
other
proposals.
It
was
a
very
interesting
process.
D
I'm
I
went
through
the
and
I'm
a
farmer,
so
I
I've
started
pruning.
I've
been
up
early
and
in
the
vineyard
and
stuff.
So
this
with
the
proposals
and
I
presented
at
idea,
fest
and
and
I
retired
at
47.
D
So
this
is
like
this
intensity
here,
this
adrenaline
rush-
I
don't
know-
I
don't
know
if
I
could
take
it
anymore,
but
it's
it's
been
fun
so
so,
going
through
the
proposal,
reviews
and-
and
you
mentioned
about
someone-
had
a
personal
opinion
and
gave
you
five
anyway,
that's
cool,
I
got
a
personal
opinion
and
they
down,
they
voted
it
neutral.
So
you
know,
however,
that
goes.
It
goes.
D
One
comment,
final
comment
and
then
I'll
get
off
the
stage.
For
a
few
minutes,
I
was
reading
the
reputation,
ca,
reputation
paper
that
is
out
there.
D
One,
it
kind
of
makes
me
feel
like
I'm
back
in
kindergarten,
and
I
I
I
I
don't
like
drawing
because
I
get
criticized
for
drawing
outside
the
line
and
my
lines
went
different
ways
and
the
teacher
didn't
like
it
and
at
five
or
four
that
was
crushing
to
my
ego,
so
so
that
kind
of
reputation,
thing
sort
of
reminds
me
of
that.
On
the
other
hand,
the
I'm
in
the
prism,
the
tallah
prism
second
class.
D
I
think
that
would
be
a
great
way
to
establish
and
cut
out
the
duplicity
that's
mentioned
in
cas
having
more
than
than
one
role,
and
that
would
be
a
good
way
of
vetting
cas
and
vcas,
etc.
So
that
might
be
a
tool
I
haven't
read
the
whole
thing.
So
if
it's
in
there
cool.
D
So,
with
the
observer
role,
I
I
put
in
that
each
so
it's
three
rounds,
so
a
newbie
would
come
in
and
be
at
the
very
lowest
level
and
they
would
get
compensated
I'll
use
that
term
at
a
lower
rate
and
then
the
second
one
they'd
get
a
mult.
I
have
a
math
formula
in
there,
they'd
get
a
different
factor
and
at
the
third
after
the
third
round
the
observer
basically
had
to
go
on
to
become
a
ca
and
then
cas
would
last.
D
D
The
vcas
had
three
term
limits,
and
then
they
either
had
to
go
back
down
to
bsca
and
refresh,
or
they
had
to
go
up
to
some
of
the
new
positions
that
are
being
created
and
probably
will
continue
to
be
created,
and
that
way
it.
It
stops
a
little
bit
of
collusion
potential
collusion
and
it
stops
a
little
bit
of
staleness
this,
the
nice
thing
about
it
and
because
it's
a
scalable,
it
started
to
be
scalable
so
like
in
the
train
instance.
D
If
more
people
cars
came
down,
they
added
a
train
to
the
back
of
the
train,
so
more
cars
could
fit
on.
So
the
cos
is
their
training.
If
suddenly
there's
a
an
influx
of
proposals-
and
you
saw
what
1205
proposals
this
round-
I
think
or
1210.
D
So
you
have
three
cohorts
so
to
speak
of
each
or
three
tranches
of
each
each
unit.
So
it's
not
a
hard
and
fast
that
you
know
you
get
kicked
out,
but
it's
it's
kind
of
like
back.
When
I
started
in
in
in
finance,
there's
a
term
called
the
peter
principle.
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
current
term
and
everybody
gets
promoted
to
their
level
of
incompetence
and
then
they
stay
there.
So
this
was
kind
of
a
peter
principle,
but
the
ability
to
continue
forward.
B
D
Had
a
bunch
of
names
on
it,
it
was
with
the
reputation
model
for
cas.
B
D
B
D
Yeah
this
is
this:
is
a
reputation
model,
so
you're,
actually
you
know,
you're
measuring,
like
tom
frye,
would
get
as
I
think
it
was
a
one
two
or
three
yeah.
D
D
How
would
it
make
me
feel
as
a
person
if
I
got
rated
as
a
one
I
see
my
best
and,
and
that
was
the
correlation
to
kindergarten
and
coloring,
and
my
wife
tells
me
I
I
gotta
get
over
it.
I'm
67
she
said
get
over
it
someday.
You
know
some
things
live
longer
that
that's
what
that
was
about
allison.
A
So
I
have
from
you
tom
it's
clear
to
me
that
we
need
a
little
better
explanation
of
the
ca
tool
use
for
people
as
they
come
to
it,
because
I
think
one
of
the
main
benefits
of
the
ca
tool
is
that
you
can
understand
how
many
assessments
have
been
done
on
a
proposal.
A
That's
that's
maybe
a
primary
benefit
and
we
ended
up
talking
about
that.
A
lot
across
the
chat.
This
time,
there's
also
the
function
with
that
tool
that
you
can
filter
and
only
have
ones
within
a
challenge
category
rather
than
prompting.
A
So
I
think
that
would
have
been
something
that
you
would
have
appreciated
in
that
process
that
maybe
we
need
a
little
bit
more
time.
I
think
there's
a
real
argument
for,
like
short,
two
to
five
minute
videos,
rather
that,
in
addition
to,
I
think
you
know,
the
the
upgrade
of
the
catalyst
school
content
was
fantastic.
This
time
I
got
to
watch
those
and
be
part
of
one
of
them
and
that's
very
helpful,
but
sometimes
you
just
need
a
snippet
that
would
explain
it
rather
than
even
going
to
a
time
stamp.
A
So
it
might
be
nice
to
have
a
series
of
those
and
that's
something:
we've
talked
about
a
little
bit
over
time
too.
It
could
be
address
a
lot
of
like
these
faq
kind
of
things,
a
little
bit
hard
to
sense,
sometimes
because,
like
the
idea
scale
issues
that
happened
this
time
after
their
update
their
update,
that
happened
between
fund
seven
and
eight,
it
created
new
stuff
that
was
impossible
to
anticipate
prior
to
being
in
the
process.
So
that
always
happens,
but
maybe
we
can
do
a
little
bit
better
job
of
that.
A
I
also
put
here
a
category.
We've
been
talking
about
a
category
for
non-funded
ideas,
things
like
we'd
like
to
have
this
approved,
or
at
least
weighed
in
on
by
the
community,
but
it's
not
a
funding
issue,
but
that
would
be
interesting
because
there
were
a
few
of
those
requirements
that
hadn't
had
a
interest
that
wasn't
funding
related
where
they
just
wanted
feedback.
So
we'll
see
where
that
goes.
A
I'm
sure
that's
been
thought
of
before,
but
maybe
interesting
to
know
why
it
was
approved
or
not,
and
then
I
have
here
if
you
observe
a
role
and
a
little
bit
more
of
like
a
like
a
tiered
progression
into
the
into
the
process,
which
could
be
really
interesting,
at
least
that
the
concept
of
like
mentorship
and
help,
but
try
not
to
it's
a
weird
balance
of
not
creating
too
much
structure
and
too
much.
A
E
E
I
didn't
actually
realize
sort
of
how,
in
a
sense,
I
think,
if
you're
trying
to
do
a
a
good
job
on
the
seeing
how
critical
that
is,
and
one
of
my
biggest
sort
of
frustrations
was
when
you're
looking
at
the
way
different
proposals
have
sort
of
come
into
this
process,
so
you've
got
some
proposers
who
have
who
are
well
established
in
the
system.
Know
catalysts
very
well
know
how
to
propose
they
they've
honed
their
skills
over
several
rounds.
E
It's
actually,
you
know
relatively
easy
to
assess
them
because
it
you
know
they
know
what
they're
doing
it's
laid
out.
You
had
proposals
that,
were
you,
know,
sort
of
first-time
proposal,
proposals
and
people
not
so
familiar
with
the
space
who
had
oh
sorry,
disappeared
there
for
a
minute
yeah,
who
had
obviously
gone
through
some
of
the
feedback,
and
it
was
you
know
it
was
all
pretty
pretty
sound.
E
Still
I
came
across
once
I
sort
I
looked
at
there's,
maybe
three
proposals
where
people
had
put
had
missed
out
the
the
comment
section
and
sat
all
that
that
section
where
they
can
put
their
proposals
forward
for
comment
and
just
come
in
and
propose
last
minute,
didn't
really
know
what
they're
doing
not
saying
they
didn't
know
what
they
were
doing.
They
were.
Some
of
them
were
good
ideas,
but
they
were
just
laid
out
completely
wrong
or
weren't,
quite
in
the
right
category
and
then
you're
sort
of
critiquing
something
going
this.
E
This
is
a
good
idea,
but
it's
it's
just
not
quite
in
the
right
place.
I
mean.
Is
that,
and
I
just
thought
that
perhaps
the
the
period
for
when
proposals
have
got
to
be
submitted
rather
than
going
up
to
the
last
minute,
maybe
should
be
a
little
bit
earlier.
So
there
is
that
little
opportunity,
for
you
know,
experienced
members
of
the
community
to
have
a
little
look,
even
if
it's
just
to
say
change
category,
because
you're
going
to
get
a
better
rating,
you're
more
likely
to
get
funded.
E
It's
a
great
idea,
you're
just
presenting
it
in
the
wrong
way-
and
I
you
know
it
just
makes
sense-
that
that
feedback.
If,
if
it's
going
to
help
good
projects,
get
their
funding,
it
should
be
there
and
again.
I
know:
there's
been
quite
a
bit
of
talk
on
the
telegram
and
I
think
tommy
he's
obviously
very
active
on
there.
We're
saying
he's
done
quite
a
bit
of
sort
of
research
on
the
amount
of
time
it
takes.
E
If
you,
if
you
are
actually
actively
sort
of
commenting
on
projects,
it
makes
the
the
ca
work
a
lot
quicker,
but
I
do
think
you
know
people
in
different
situations
and
obviously
you're
taking
quite
a
bit
of
time.
Out
of
you
know
a
schedule
to
to
do
that
work
properly,
because
there's
no
point
doing
like
sort
of
commenting
on
three
three
proposals
prior
to
the
ca
work
for
you
to
then
be
able
to
speed
up
your
process.
E
If
you
want
to
get
more
out
of
the
of
the
process,
you
know
financially
because
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you
know,
there's
there's
that
sort
of
line
between
making
it
financially
viable
to
take
the
time
to
be
involved
in
something
that
you
know
you
may
you
know
finding
exciting
and
panic
you
know,
might
have
a
passion
about
it,
but
you've
still
got
to
survive.
E
You
know
you
know
through
the
rest
of
the
time,
and
so
where
there's
some
sort
of
compensation,
maybe
not
as
great
because
obviously
there
is
you
know
there
is
the
ability
to
you
know,
speed
up
your
ca
process
by
doing
that
through
that
work
prior
to
say
section
starting,
but
if
there
was
some
sort
of
reward
there,
I
think
people
would
be
more
inclined
to
get
involved
and
actually
dig
in
you
know,
because
I
know
I
certainly
I
thought
about,
and
I
will
probably
next
round
you
know,
do
some
feedback
on
proposals,
but
the
I
was
put
off
by
just
thinking.
E
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
get
involved
in
one
of
these
projects.
You
don't
know
how
long
it's
going
to
take.
You
start
a
conversation
with
someone.
You
could
end
up
having
to
really
deep
deep
dive,
help
them
out
quite
a
lot
and
then-
and
although
that's
great
and
it's
a
nice
thing
to
do,
you're
still,
you
know
sacrificing
a
lot
of
your
time
for
it.
But
it's
been
great.
I've
really
enjoyed
really
enjoyed,
you
know
being
involved
and
it's
just
tweaks
to
to
improve
it
idea.
Scale
again.
E
I
found
a
little
bit
tricky
the
I
just
I
again,
it's
just
one
of
those
things,
but
you've
got
a
really
small
text
box,
or
certainly
I
was
doing
it
all
on
ipad
and
obviously
all
the
information's
up
above
it.
I
did
sometimes
have
an
extra
screen
set
up
but
having
to
keep
referring
back
to
check
what
someone
said
and
then
go
back
to
your
little
text
box.
E
What
was
awkward,
I
know
you
can
they've
got
the
aim
tool
which
I
didn't
use
but
but
yeah
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
sort
of
improvement
on
the
interface
on
idea
scale.
So
you
can.
I
mean,
like
every
time
you
go
into
adjust
what
you've
said:
you're
sort
of
scrolling
like
back
through
three.
You
know
three
words
at
a
time
to
find
the
place
you
need
to
get
to
to
like
adapt
a
sentence,
but
that
yeah,
I'm
just
gonna
waffle
on
so
I'll
shut
up
now.
A
Yeah
I
I
love
that
there's
this
robust
conversation
around
this
extra
layer
up
front
and
I
think
it
is
really
a
justified
issue
that
it's
hard
to
it's
hard
to
incentivize
someone
other
than
with
the
good
there.
Isn't
there
I
think
for
each
of
us
there
is
a
point
to
which
we
just
really
enjoy
getting
in
there
and
talking
about
it
figuring
out,
but
I
do
think
there's
some
space.
A
It
sounds
like
it
sounds
to
me
from
everyone
talking
and
and
just
sort
of
ruminating
on
myself
that
there's
some
space
to
really
improve
that,
because
then
you
have,
we
always
think
about
it
like
upstream
downstream,
so
the
proposal
process
proposals
come
in
and
then
it
feeds
everything
downstream
to
the
assessment
process.
So
the
better
our
inputs
are
the
better
a
job
it's
going
to
be
for
the
cas,
and
we
saw
that
happen
here
with
some
of
these
improvements
to
that
ca
process.
A
A
Scale
was
real
tough
because
we
are
one
of
their
very
many
clients
and
so
I'll
just
give
newer
cas
that
perspective,
because
some
things
are
easy
and
even
like
this
particular
fund,
one
of
the
things
was
that
when
you,
when
you
applied
to
via
vca
or
when
you
registered
at
bvca,
you
had
those
you
had
the
links,
the
helpful
tools
and
links
there,
and
the
same
thing
happened
for
proposers
where
you
had
those
links.
A
That
was
a
big
upgrade
here
this
time,
rather
than
like
trying
to
figure
out
where
things
were
so
there
were,
there
were
some
it's
not
impossible,
but
if
it's
like,
I
wish
this
could
happen.
It
would
be
nice
if
that's
a
lot
different
than
this
causes
catastrophic
issues.
If
we
don't
right.
So
that's
something
to
keep
in
mind.
Definitely
but
certain
things
like
the
you
know,
I
think
certain
things
will
definitely
get
attention
like
the
sending
it
to
every
sending
everyone
to
the
same
proposal
every
time
yeah.
A
So
you
know-
and
this
is
like
a
things-
may
break
thing.
I
think
it's
a
great
example
of
things
may
break
where
you
just
you
can't
foresee
it,
but
if
we
have
enough,
if
we
have
enough,
if
there's
enough
of
a
detriment
to
the
system-
and
it's
not
just
an
inconvenient
thing,
then
I
think
we
have
some
space
to
make
a
case
for
it.
But
these
are
great.
These
are
great
comments.
B
I
I
just
if
I
could
build
on
that.
I
have
a
comment
about
the
timing
period
too.
I
think
this
would
need
to
be
checked,
but
the
way
the
comment
period
was
structured
was
different
in
fund
8
from
fund
7.,
so
in
fund
7
there
was
a
week
for
proposers
to
put
draft
proposals
in
then
all
the
proposals
were
frozen
and
there
was
a
week
for
comment
writing.
B
So
during
that
week
proposers
could
not
do
anything
with
their
proposals
and
then
it
swapped
back,
and
there
was
a
week
for
proposals
to
finalize
and
the
comments
were
frozen,
but
then
in
fund
8
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
They
did
away
with
that
iterative
back
and
forth,
and
both
proposal
writing
and
editing
and
comments
were
open
the
whole
time.
B
I
think
that
when
that
week,
when
proposals
were
frozen,
there
was
a
lot
more
comment
writing
going
on,
because
proposers
had
nothing
else
they
could
be
doing.
During
that
time
I
mean
not
nothing
else.
People
still
were
working
on
their
proposals
in
the
background,
but
you
couldn't
make
edits
to
idea
scale,
whereas
this
time
that
never
that
never
happened.
A
Yeah,
it
might
be
hard
for
this
group
to
compare,
because
I
think
everyone
in
this
group
is
is
newer
to
it,
but
I
definitely
think
I
I.
I
think
that
probably
makes
a
lot
of
sense
at
the
very
least,
there's,
probably
a
considerable
effect
of
how
the
fund
timeline
is
laid
out
on
how
people
how
people
behave
and
contribute
so
to
be
part
of
that
comparison,
keep
going.
B
Well,
I
was
going
to
say
the
whole
idea
behind
forcing
proposers
to
put
a
draft
proposal
in
and
then
freezing
it
for
a
week
for
comments
was
supposed
to
generate
exactly
that
conversation.
But
unfortunately,
I
think
what
most
people
figured
out
is.
You
didn't
have
to
have
very
much
of
a
draft
in
idea
scale
to
have
to
hold
your
place
while
you
kept
working
on
it.
So
that's
how
we've
ended
up
with
this
placeholder.
D
Yeah,
the
title
is
community
advisor
and
fund
eight,
no
one
really
got
a
chance
to
advise
unless
you
left
the
comments
fund,
seven
and
and
because
of
ukraine,
and
whatever
other
reason
that
week
was
cut
short.
I
understand
so
fun
seven
and
I
didn't
partake.
I
just
watched
and
pretended
like.
I
was
doing
it
so
I
could
enter
the
skating
rink
at
full
speed.
You
had
more
you.
D
There
was
more
advising
going
on
in
fund
seven,
you
know
and
as
babsie
said
you
know
you
need
that
and
that's
what
the
the
observer
role
is
or
and
as
alison
said,
you
need
the
specialist
to
kind
of
advise.
The
observer
role
is
to
get
the
proposers
in
shape
for
the
advisors
to
advise
not
just
be
raiders
or
assessors
as
it
was
in
this
fund.
I
think
so.
I
think
that
week
is
important
for
commenting
from
the
cas
and
or
vcas.
D
Yeah,
I
think
one
of
the
things
danny
put
out.
There
was
hey,
don't
wait
and
I'm
paraphrasing
because
he's
so
much
nicer
than
I
am.
I
mean
he's
just
filled
with
love,
you
beautiful
people,
but
it
was
like
don't
waste
our
time.
D
This
is
serious
stuff,
don't
waste
our
time
with
nonsense
and
then
you
go
in
and,
and
you
see
all
the
placeholders
and
incomplete-
and
I
don't
know
how
much
I'm
gonna
ask
and
that's
that's
why
I
said
the
the
co
role
is
taking
that
the
the
bs
stuff
out
so
to
speak
or
we're
getting.
You
know,
I'm
also
on
miscellaneous
fund
is
a
whatever
that
title.
D
Is
that
the
five
people
that
kind
of
try
to
so
we
spend
time
going
through
every
proposal
and
saying
hey
step
up
to
plate
finish
it
or
withdraw,
which
is
a
nice
step,
but
that's
something
the
co
could
do
it's
just
hey.
Let's,
let's
move
on
get
it
ready,
make
sure
your
your
eight.
You
know
your
request
is
proper.
A
A
lot
of
what
catalyst
is
is
a
lot
of
thinking,
we're
not
thinking
about
mute
buttons
yeah,
so
so
this
is.
This
is
great,
and
what's
really
nice
is
is
when
you,
when
you
have
multiple
conversations
like
this
and
a
lot
of
the
same
things
come
up.
It
really
makes
an
argument
for
that
being
something
that
at
least
needs
more
consideration.
So
it's
this
is
a
fantastic
conversation.
A
G
G
Too,
so
continuing
on
the
idea
of
preparing
proposers,
I
personally
think
we
should
have
a
bit
more
scrutiny
regarding
feasibility
and
auditability
tax
because
now
well,
the
the
first.
The
impact
tab
is
where
people
explain
their
idea
and
why
or
why
it's
necessary
and
it
can
be
in
this
open
form.
But
when
we
get
to
the
budgeting
or
auditability,
it's
like.
G
So
I
don't
know
it's
very
hard
to
assess
because
I'm
not
sure
where
the
proposers
are
from
and
the
they
lay
out
a
plan
and
then,
in
the
end
it's
just
like
we'll
need
15
000
and
it's
very
hard
because
in
some
places
it
might
get
accomplished
in
other
places,
it's
way
too
low.
So
I
would
like
at
least
to
have
some
better
guidelines
well
for
proposers
themselves
to
just
fit
fill
like
the
budget
in
certain
specific
ways.
Same
goes
with
auditability
so
that
you
could
assess
better
like
is
it
really
feasible?
G
Will
we
be
able
to
audit
it?
Those
two
parts
and
the
other
problem
that
I've
mentioned
on
this
board
was
the
naming
of
the
campaign.
I
don't
know,
maybe
I
just
got
unlucky
because
I
only
assessed
on
two
of
them,
but
the
new
member
of
onboarding
one,
because
it's
clear
to
see
from
the
proposals
that
most
of
people
read
only
the
first
line
and
I
I'm
not
sure
how
the
voting
goes.
But
what
do
the
waters
see
like
what
do
they
vote
on,
because
if
they
will
see
also
only
new
members
on
boarding?
G
A
Okay,
so
I
have
from
you
more
scrutiny
and
better
guidelines
for
proposers
for
auditability
and
budgets
and
then
the
naming
part
in
in
a
perfect
world.
The
second
thing
that
you're
mentioning
will
be
sussed
out
by
the
assessed
process
by
cas,
observing
the
proposal
and
saying
you
kind
of
missed
the
mark
here,
based
on
the
challenge,
and
then
the
vcas
have
been
the
second
layer
on
that.
So
that's
a
hopeful
thing.
A
The
the
entirety
of
the
challenge
process
is
something
that
also
gets
a
lot
of
consideration,
for
you
know
how
we
think
about
how
we
think
about
how
that's
done
moving
forward.
That's
maybe
a
bigger
conversation
than
right
now,
but
ideally,
in
that
case
in
in
the
case
of
confusion
or
interpretation
of
the
challenges.
A
Hopefully,
the
process
works
for
those
kind
of
things,
those
kind
of
things
where
you
know
there's
there
was
a
few
things
that
I
read
as
well,
where
I
thought
not
sure
why
they
ended
up
with
this
here,
and
that
also
speaks
to
the
need
for
having
a
little
bit
more
evaluation
prior
to
yeah.
So
well,
I
think
almost
that
fits
in
the
in
the
category
of
how
do
we
help
people
get
better
prepared
and
prevent
things
from
being
in
the
wrong
place.
James
mentioned
that
too,
so,
yeah
really
good.
So
I
have
these.
A
I
have
those
things
noted
down
here.
I
appreciate
you
making
that
comment.
It
also
is
was
nice
to
be
able
to
suggest
that
you
come
in
and
make
it
more
broadly
too,
because
a
lot
of
times
people
when,
when,
when
people
take
the
time
to
ask
questions
and
comment
on
process,
it
usually
is
a
great
indicator
that
the
solutions
that
come
out
of
that
are
something
that
that
person
would
also
maybe
contribute
to.
A
So
I'm
glad
that
you're
here
and
I
think
that
that
that
can
really
be
added
into
the
this
continued
discussion
about
preparation
to
tom's
comment.
A
And
it's
it's
really
important.
Everyone
who's
doing
that,
and
everyone
who
has
has
a
level
of
experience,
has
come
from
a
place
of
having
questions
and
and
wondering
how
things
could
be
better,
and
so
that's
a
little
bit
of
this
conversation
too,
is
it's
it's
one
thing
to
to
sense
problems
or
opportunities,
and
it's
another
thing
to
collaborate
on
how
we
solve
them.
So
yeah,
michael.
A
H
Well,
I'm
gonna
try!
Okay,
I'm
sorry.
E
A
I
might
just
shut
the
discord
window
down
all
together.
I
think
florian's
in
there
as
well
lauren,
if
you're
in
the.
If
you're
in
the
discord
hub
here-
and
you
can
hear
me-
I
sen-
I
direct
message-
you
and
discord-
we
moved
over
to
zoom
because
there
was
a
lot
of
feedback
in
discord.
So
if
you
want
to
hop
over,
I
direct
message
that
to
you
it's
also
in
general,
in
the
general
section
of
the
cavca
hub,
the
link
to
hop
on
here.
D
Yeah,
michael,
your
main
microphone
is
muted
and
it
looks
it
sounds
like
your
discord
is
still
open,
but
your
zoom
microphone
is
muted.
A
A
H
H
You
know
navigation,
the
principles
of
things.
How
to
you
know
what
things
mean
and
then
within
within
the
ca
role,
how
to
assess.
You
know
what
the
vocabulary
even
means.
What
does
feasibility
mean?
What
is
you
know,
distinguishing
something
between
feasible
and
non-feasible,
so
I
have
some
background
in
instructional
design
and
instructional
development.
H
So
what
I
propose,
one
of
my
proposals
in
funding
is
to
do
a
needs
assessment
and
trying
a
crowd-funded
approach
to
the
focus
group
which
is
kind
of
unusual,
but
I
think
it
could
be
interesting.
So,
in
the
needs
assessment,
it
would
be
just
the
list
of
stuff
that
people
need
to
do
in
order
to
take
on
the
role
like,
for
example,
create
an
account
and
catalyst.
H
That's
something
that
you
need
to
do
find
the
kpis
for
a
given
challenge.
That's
something
you
need
to
do,
which
I
found
are
in
the
about
tab,
right
and
and
there's
you
know,
literally
dozens
or
hundreds
of
separate
little
tasks
that
need
to
that.
You
need
to
know
how
to
do
so.
The
idea
of
the
needs
assessment
is
not
to
tell
anybody
how
to
do
it.
H
Someone
someone
else
can
do
it's
just
to
say
here's
what
you
know
find
out
how
to
do
this
find
out
how
to
do
this
find
out
how
to
do
this
and
a
whole
list.
A
numerical
list
like
that
and
all
of
us
could
use
that
for
various
purposes
like
if
people
wanted
google
wanted
in
and
make
tutorials
they
could.
They
could
use
that
list
to
to
find
out
what
needs
to
get
addressed.
H
So
that's
one
thing,
and
because
I
saw
allison's
proposal-
and
I
realized
that
that's
you
know
the
ca
focusing
you
know
on
that
on
this
area,
so
I
thought
yeah.
It
would
be
good
to
focus
on
this,
the
ca
role
and
the
catalyst
thing,
even
though
discord's
you
know,
even
though
cardano's
bigger
than
that
like,
for
example,
if
you
know
you
might
need
discord,
but
you
don't
need
that
for
the
cable.
H
So
I'm
going
ahead
with
that.
I
hope
it
gets
funded,
but
I'm
interested
in
working
on
that,
even
if
it
doesn't
get
funded,
because
it
seems
really
obvious
to
me
that
it
is
needed,
and
there
was
quick.
I
did.
I
got
some
really
great
responses
on
that.
That
leads
to
my
second
question
or
comment,
though,
that
I
didn't
realize
till
about
a
week
ago,
that
the
number
of
assessments
are
visible
to
the
voters
and
that
the
number
of
assessments
is.
H
You
know
like
grossly
variable
and
and
also
that
that
those
two
things
are
are
related,
and
so
you
have
people
you
know
coming
in
and
grandstanding
in
what
seemed
to
be.
You
know
processed
conversations
in
in
telegram,
and
I'm
saying
why.
Why
are
we
even
talking
about
this?
Why?
Why
is
this
person
even
here
talking
about
their?
H
Why
are
we
talking
about
individuals,
proposals
in
a
group
of
you
know,
people
talking
about
process,
but
as
I
found
out
that
oh
well,
no,
you
know
that's
that's
part
of
creating
a
buzz
and
that
voters
are
going
to
see
those
numbers
and
that
that's
part
of
the
voting
process-
and
I
thought
oh
well
that
doesn't
seem.
You
know
that
doesn't
seem
very
fair.
H
I
guess-
and
it
doesn't
seem
quite
very
functional
to
me-
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
why
voters
see
the
number
of
assessments
or
me,
but
I
don't
want
to
be
black
and
white
about
it,
but
it
seemed
to
me
that
I
know
maybe
there
should
be
a
quota
of
assessments
like
once.
A
given
proposal
has
like
10.
H
E
The
thing
that
I
I
couldn't
work
out,
how
it
could
be
done
fairly
would
be
that
there
may
be.
You
know,
individuals
virtually
ready
to
submit
their
feedback
on
a
proposal
and
then
it
suddenly
gets
cut.
So
there
could
be
quite
a
lot
of
work
lost,
so
I
don't
know
how
you'd.
Actually
you
know
if
you
said
you
know,
for
example,
there
was
only
10
assessments
open
for
for
each
proposal.
E
Did
you
you'd
get
to
a
point
where
all
of
a
sudden
you,
you
don't
proposal,
the
assessment
opportunity
would
be
shut
and
there
might
be
three
people.
Who've
put
two
hours
work
each
in
you
know
well.
B
I
I
think
that
having
a
more
uniform
number
of
assessments
per
proposal
is
a
really
important
goal.
I
think
the
other
issue
that's
come
up
with
limiting
the
number
of
assessments
and,
in
addition
to
the
the
good
point
bobsy
raised,
was
that
a
lot
of
assessments
get
filtered
out,
and
so
one
thing
that
happened
last
last
fund
is
that
there
were
a
lot
of
problematic
assessments
for
whatever
reason
that
some
of
them
may
have
been
bots.
B
Others,
language
problems,
people
trying
to
game
the
system
who
knows
so
proposals
that
looked
like
they
had
a
lot
of
reviews
suddenly
didn't
have
enough,
and
so
we
were
scrambling
to
get
more
cas
in
to
bring
up
the
number
of
reviews,
because
actually
they
were
they
were
too
low.
So
I
I
think
that
coming
up
with
strategies
to
level
the
number
of
assessments
per
proposal
is
really
important
and-
and
I
think
I
don't
think
we
figured
out
yet
the
right
approach
to
set
a
limit
and
stick
to
it.
H
Yeah-
and
I
think
an
important
part
of
it
was
that
you
know
in
the
telegram
people
were
asking
questions
about
the
process
which
was
great,
but
then
you
know
I
found
people
talking
about
their
own
proposals.
I
just
found
that
completely
inappropriate
and-
and
you
know
not
a
good
use
of
time
and
and
and
a
big
big
distraction
and
like
what's
up
with
that,
I
was
I
found
that
just
like
have
to
restrain
myself.
H
A
We
do
need
some
code
of
conduct
stuff,
that's
clear
as
well.
That
should
come
out
of
this
process
on
wednesday
we're
going
to
have
an
aftertown
hall
mercy
and
I
are
going
to
come
together
on
it
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
it's
not
to
create
a
code
of
conduct
in
that
conversation,
obviously,
but
that
we
start
to
look
at
okay.
What
are
some
of
these
things?
Where
we
see
like,
are
these
red
lines?
Are
they
blurred
lines?
How
can
we
identify
these
things
and.
H
A
B
A
A
So
I'm
just
I'm
conscious
of
being
at
the
top
of
the
hour
here
and
I
have
a
hard
stop.
I
know
a
couple
people
do
as
well,
so
what
I
would
love
to
suggest
is
that
is
the
is
their
desire
from
this
group.
It
sounds
like
there
is.
It
sounds
like
each
of
you
are
interested
in
some
way
in
digging
a
little
deeper
and
and
being
involved
in
some
of
these
solutions.
Certainly
that
would
be
fantastic
for
the
ecosystem.
A
H
H
I
think
my
best
contribution
couldn't
be
on
the
needs,
assessment
and
yeah,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
going
to
get
funded
and
in
any
case
it
would
be
great
to
have
some
people
that
would
help
you
know
just
coming
up
with
the
tasks
and
all
that.
So
that's
what
I
think
I'd
I
can
can
do
and
what
I'm
willing
to
do.
A
Yeah
and
I
think
that's
a
little
bit-
you
know
we're
if
everyone
takes
a
piece
of
something
that
they're
spearheading,
then
that's
the
ideal
use
here
and
that
we
come
together.
We
integrate
everything,
because
otherwise
you
have
a
lot
of
solutions
that
are
silos
and
don't,
and
I
don't
have
collective
feedback,
so
I
can
have
great
use
of
it.
Michael.
B
H
D
Question
on
time
management
we
just
went
through
east
daylight
savings
time
in
the
us
kind
of
threw
my
schedule
off
by
an
hour
on
utc.
I
think,
and
I'm
not
up
on
utc
and
other
time
zones.
But
I
think
I
read
in
telegram
that
utc
resets
for
the
summer.
B
D
A
D
That
what
I
understand-
nadia-
okay,
okay,
that's
almost
union
break
when
you're
at
the
vineyard.
You
know
for
my
hard
hard
stop
for
my
coffee
break.
I
I
can
probably
do
that.
That'll.
A
Line
up,
okay,
so
we'll
communicate
that
and
then
you
know
we'll
we'll
let
it
be
fluid.