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B
Well,
it's
good,
because,
okay
lynn,
just
to
bring
it
back
right
now
we
were
talking
about
so
we're
working
on
fixing
jeremy's
audio,
but
tonight
we're
talking
about
having
a
little
bit
of
an
agenda
which
is
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
next
steps
for
making
the
now
hooray
funded
ca
treasury
ready
to
go
getting
it
up
and
ready
to
go
so
jeremy's
going
to
talk
about
that.
We
can
talk
about
in
the
group
here
a
bit.
B
Then
we
have
the
quick
chat
about
the
migration
of
the
community
suggestions
that
have
been
uploaded
onto
onto
working
group
boards
within
the
hub
and
then
the
third
thing
would
be
the
subcircle
hub
idea,
the
sort
of
expansion
of
it,
which
we've
talked
about
quite
a
bit
and
maybe
finalizing,
and
then,
if
we
have
time
at
the
end,
sometimes
some
talk
for
just
credential
ideas
that
have
to
do
with
the
ca
and
vca
roles.
But
that
could
also
be
tabled
because
we
have
lots
to
talk
about
here.
A
I
need
to
cut
in
on
the
moving
those
suggestions
to
the
working
groups.
A
I
went
through
that
today,
three
and
a
half
hours
to
write
a
document
so
and
I
sent
that
to
unit
dm
and
it's
also
in
the
for
the
admins
and
the
mods.
It's
in
the
internal
chat
to
be
reviewed.
B
Okay,
great
so
we'll
do
that,
maybe
right
after
we
talk
about
treasury.
I
just
also
wanted
to
give
this
group
an
update,
because
I
know
we
talked
about
those
questions
for
the.
B
This
is
just
like
a
quick
update
on
previous
sessions
before
we
dive
into
the
agenda,
which
is
that
those
questions
that
we
came
up
with
in
this
meeting
that,
while
a
while
back
and
we're
sort
of
then
merged
with
the
existing
community
suggestions
for
having
proposals
just
give
a
sense
of
their
scope
of
work
and
and
a
place
to
be
able
to
talk
about
their,
how
they're
going
to
approach
it
as
far
as
accomplishing
it
got
approved.
So
those
are
going
to
be
added
chris.
We
worked
reworked
the
language
around
them.
B
Chris
baird
really
nicely
so
they're,
very,
like
positive,
encouraging
and
supportive
proposers
really
making
even
a
better
position
for
their
for
their
work.
So
that
is
a
positive
outcome
and
that's
going
to
go
through
and
be
a
piece
for
this
next
fund.
So
hopefully
that
will
help
a
little
bit
of
the.
C
B
That
said,
is
this
proposal
ready
to
be
reviewed,
and
not
maybe
reviewed
but
not
assessed,
but
reviewed
as
a
beginning,
would
help
that
process
of
the
collaboration
of
community
advisors
in
like
the
umbrella
community,
like
the
mentoring
standpoint
and
the
ability
to
improve
the
improve
the
proposals
prior
to
the
finalization,
so
that
id
idea
formation
phase
that
would
allow
people
to
know
when
people
were
ready
to
have
that
happen,
and
then
it
would
help,
perhaps
with
filtering
or
with
the
first
look
at
what
perhaps
needs
to
be
filtered
once
they're
finalized.
B
So
that
would
help
iog
on
that
end.
So
we're
gonna
bring
marek
back
into
that
and
just
sort
of
finalize
the
thinking
on
it,
but
that
one
is
that
one's
in
the
mix
of
of
of
the
potentials,
and
I
think
that
has
a
good
chance
too.
If
it
can
just
like
sort
of
be
figured
out
how
it
will
how
it
will
be
presented.
Once
it's
adopted
so
yeah.
E
B
It's
gonna,
so
the
the
language
was
here's
how
it.
Let
me
see
if
I
can
find
it
here,
real
fast.
E
B
I
think
it's
a
very
minor
change
in
terms
of
like
what
needs
to
happen
for
idea
scale,
and
I
think
it's
very
positive
for
every
group
positive
for
proposers.
It's
positive
for
all
the
qa
part
and
it's
positive
for
the
ability
to
think
about
the
scope
of
proposers
work
across
funds
and
in
this
particular
fund,
so
that
they
can
so
they
can
like
really
make
a
case
for
their
for
what
they're
proposing
to
do.
Of
course.
Right
now,
I
need
to
like
dig
for
that
document,
because
I
don't
have
that
tab
up.
B
So
I
will.
I
will
queue
that
up
by
the
time
that
we
talk
about
other
stuff.
Oh
no,
here
it
is
right
here,
okay,
the
reasoning
was
to
add
some
self-audit
questions
to
allow
the
proposer
to
create
transparency
around
the
scope
of
their
current
proposal.
Load
and
previous
funded
proposal
results.
B
So
what
we
ended
up
with
is
have
you
been
part
of
any
catalyst
funded
projects
in
fund
7
or
any
other
active
projects
from
any
fund?
If
so,
please
provide
links
to
the
proposals.
Are
you
involved
in
any
other
proposals
in
fund
8?
If
so,
please
provide
the
direct
idea,
scale
links
if
you
have
multiple
proposals
in
this
round
or
you're
participating
in
any
active
catalyst
projects
from
previous
funds.
Please
provide
a
rationale
as
to
your
capacity
to
be
able
to
effectively
deliver
this.
F
So
there's
that
sounds
pretty
good.
Actually
now
you
I
bring
up
one
other
thing
kind
of
related
on
that
topic.
I
don't
know
if
there's
any,
this
document
hasn't
been
like
finalized
and
it's
like
not
changeable,
because
there's
something
I
wanted.
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
add
to
it.
F
No
not
in
terms
of
the
language
of
the
questions,
but
something
similar
for
idea
scale
and
proposers
it's
a
really
small
minor
change.
I
think
so
I
probably
saw
it
also
I
put
on
d-work
earlier
today.
I've
been
kind
of
mentioning
this,
but
what,
if
like
getting
rid
of
the
the
flagged
checkbox
that
proposes,
can
do
when
they're
going
through
and
so
all
they
can
provide,
is
feedback.
So
it
forces
vcas
to
have
to
read
the
feedback
and
make
a
decision
on
that.
F
Instead
of
making
decisions
based
off
the
checkbox
and
then
also
you
know,
proposers
have
to
then
actually
use
their
words
to
justify
why
they
think
the
ca
is
not
assessing
correctly.
F
Feedback
you
know,
I
understand
the
issue
with
that.
Right
now,
in
the
current
system,
is
that
some
vcas
just
see
the
check
box
and
they
they
have
like
a
lower
standard.
They
say:
okay,
it's
probably
more
likely
to
be
filtered
out,
because
I
think
someone
ran
statistics
and
it
was
found
that
they're
more
likely
to
be
filtered
out
if
they
have
a
proposer
flag
on
it.
But
then,
if
you
just
have
feedback,
then
you
have
to
have
people
actually
read
the
feedback
instead
of
just
marking
it
as
filtered
out,
because
it
has
a
flag.
F
A
F
No,
the
only
thing
yeah,
sorry,
maybe
it
wasn't,
the
only
thing
is
just
get
rid
of
the
check
box.
Don't
get
rid
of
the
feedback.
F
B
So
I
I
think
this
is
a
great
discussion
for
us
to
have
and
that
we
can
get
more
into
it.
This
is,
but
what
you're
talking
about
is
something
that
has
a
lot
of
flexibility
to
be
talked
about
further
into
the
fun,
because
the
only
reason
that
we're
talking
about
these
finalizations
now
is
because
they're
gonna
relate
to
the
proposer,
putting
proposals
in
in
the
first
stage
of
the
process
here.
B
So
there's
plenty
of
space
and
time
for
us
to
change,
ca
and
vca
related
stuff,
and
I
think
that
is
something
we
can
incorporate
into
the
discussion
about
improvements
to
that
to
that
process.
As
we
go
forward.
B
B
That
may
be
as
part
of
the
conversation
for
these
community
suggestions,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
these
right
now
and
I
think
your
suggestion
here
probably
suits
some
of
the
vca
suggestions
and
could
go
in
there
at
the
point
where
we
evaluate
that
more,
like
holistically
for
the
it's
like
my
favorite
word
now
for
the
vca
process
and
the
and
the
ca
process,
which
also
will
put
in
this
case,
pertains
to
how
the
proposals
interact
with
it,
and
so
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
space
there
for
us
to
to
get
into
it
in
an
official
way,
but
it
doesn't
have
the
same
urgency
as
any
changes
to
idea
scale
that
will
affect
submitting
proposal
dress.
C
Are
you,
can
you
go
ahead.
B
So
I
could
hear
you
there
when
you
said
yeah,
can
you
can
you
hear
us?
Okay
still.
G
H
If
it's
a
new
computer
that
you're
using
man
and
a
new
setup,
you
might
try
the
user
settings
down
by
your
mic
in
your
headset.
I'm
sure
this
is
probably
you've
already
done
this,
but
there's
audio
settings
down
there.
You
might
be
clipping
too
early
on
your
on
your
voice
or
there's
a
bunch
of
settings
in
there
that
might
help.
B
It
occurs
to
me
to
say
also
for
the
sake
of
the
recording
that
what
went
through
there
for
the
proposal
stuff,
some
of
it
came
from
our
discussions.
Some
of
it
came
from
the
ca
suggestions
and
then
some
of
it
also
came
from
the
collaboration
with
mercy
where
we
did
the
joint
after
town
hall
stuff
and
that
the
funded
proposers
sub-circle
groups
weighed
in
on
that
too.
So
there
were
a
lot
of
people
in
that
process.
It
wasn't
just
that
it
came
from
this
discussion
and
went
straight
there.
B
So,
for
the
sake
of
the
recording
to
sort
of
log
that
process
there
were
a
lot
of.
There
was
a
lot
of
like
contribution
to
that
from
different
perspectives,
so
that
so
that
it
found
it's
found
its
way
into
adjusting.
B
Jeremy,
do
you
want
to
put
in
the
hub
call
chat
like?
Should
I
on
the
left
there
should
I
for
do
you
want?
Should
we
go
on
with
something
else,
while
you
figure
this
out
and
come
back
to
it,
what
would
be
best
for
you
here?
Are
you
troubleshooting,
as
you
go,
I'm
sure
you're
troubleshooting.
G
B
G
G
C
B
Were
having
cyber
technology
or
cyber
some
kind
of
cyber
issue.
H
Jeremy's
troubleshooting
audio:
do
you
want
to
skip
the
the
funding
bit
and
go
on
to
some
other
agenda
items
and
come
wrap
back
up
to
it,
maybe
or.
B
We'll
do
that
so
the
next,
the
next
thing,
which
sort
of
leads
into
it.
So
I
think
with
each
of
you.
I've
talked
definitely
with
some
with
more
than
others,
but
with
each
of
you
and
maybe
dang,
not
quite
as
in
depth
with
you.
So
it'll
be
nice
to
hear
your
feedback
too.
B
So
just
encapsulate
we've
had
pretty
broad
conversations
now
with
the
different
parts
of
the
parts
of
the
catalyst
sort
of
like
groups
about
evolving
the
ca,
vca
hub
a
little
bit
expanding
it
so
that
I
could
the
tools
and
the
process,
the
workflow
that
was
developed
over
this
fun
fun
date
could
be
more
broadly
accessible
and
available
to
the
other,
either
role
specific
parts
of
the
process
or
groups
that
would
need
to
come
together
to
work
on
things,
because
scott
built
the
server
and
integrated
d-work
and
we're
increasingly
having
like
criteria
for
doing
that
for
using
it
and
we've
been
doing
the
governance
stuff
with
stephen
around
creating
prioritized
problems
within
the
ecosystem,
so
that
could
really
be
utilized.
B
B
Tom
organized
a
really
fantastic
after
town
hall,
about
challenge
teams,
just
to
start
a
discussion
there
about
the
ways
to
use
those
teams
most
effectively,
and
in
that
call
it
was
suggested
that
we
start
that
the
the
group
that
was
forming
around
that
and
wanting
to
work
on
it
could
use
the
hub.
B
And
then
we
really
saw
sort
of
this
like
hesitancy,
come
to
come
to
a
little
bit
more
of
a
head,
and
I
think
it's
just
just
more
of
like
a
marketing
perception
issue
rather
than
a
rather
than
tool
tool
or
process
related.
B
So
that
is
to
say
that
first,
I
went
and
talked
to
mercy
and
joey,
because
those
are
two
like
key
groups,
and
then
we
talked
about
it
in
the
circle.
Working
group
yesterday,
there's
a
lot
of
positive
feedback
for
it.
As
far
as
like
stakeholders
and
potentially
the
voters
and
general
ada
holders
being
able
to
use
it.
We've
been
long
recognizing
that
there's
this
issue
of
proposers
and
challenge
teams
and
certain
other
roles
not
having
a
rep
so
not
having
representation
or
like
someone
to
help
them
come
together
and
raise
issues.
B
So
I
think
we're
at
the
point
now
where
we
can
really
talk
about
what
it
would
look
like
to
create
the
rest
of
what's
necessary,
to
have
a
framework
around
raising
issues
and
keeping
them
clean
and
raised.
We
probably
need
some
official
stewards
of
the
dework
boards
so
that
they
don't
turn
into
a
big
hot
mess
and
a
way
for
someone
to
become
maybe
a
champion
of
the
group
which
is
already
started
within
the
ca
group,
but
helping
to
educate
people
in
that
process
will
be
part
of
this
onboarding
as
well.
B
I
would
think
so.
My
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
receptivity
and
a
lot
of
excitement
around
doing
this.
I
think
it's
a
great
use
of
this
server
because
you
would
have
sort
of
a
place
where
groups
come
in
order
to
when
they're
ready
to
organize
around
something
and
to
work
on
it,
and
it
really
gives
you
a
space
for
I'm
gonna
again
use
the
word
holistic,
look
at
the
whole
process
and
and
how
things
interrelate.
B
So
I
I
just,
I
think,
I've
pretty
much
said
this
to
everyone.
Who's
here
and
or
we've
talked
about
it
a
little
bit,
so
I
guess
what
I'm
thinking
about
is.
I
would
love
to
open
it
just
for
talk
about
next
steps.
What
could
we
do
for
like
what?
What
do
you
guys
see
as
as
the
next
steps?
What
do
we
need
to
be
thoughtful
about
and
careful
of,
and
how
should
we
then
go
about
helping
to
educate
the
community?
Would
it
be
like
an
aftertown
hall?
C
A
I
shared
in
hope
call
chat.
I
share
that
pdf
again,
so
it's
I
mean
it's
just
a
pdf.
I
can
put
it
in
a
google
doc
and
probably
format
it
better,
but
that
was
just
straight
from
notes
to
a
pdf,
so
it's
got
every
step
in
there
all
the
links
you
would
need,
but
it's
not
a
guideline:
it's
not
the
rails.
It's
not
like
how
you're
supposed
to
like
what
your
suggestion.
Your
community
suggestions
should
have
it
what
it
should
be
comprised
of
what
it
should
contain
it
does.
A
It
does
state
like
what
areas
need
to
be
filled
out,
but
it
doesn't
tell
you
how
to
compose
it.
What
needs
to
be
composed
and
what
information
needs
to
be
in
it,
but
that
pdf,
I
don't
know
if
any
of
y'all
are
looking
or
not.
I
don't
want
to
share
my
screen
because
I'll
probably
lose
the
internet.
A
But
it's
got,
it
starts
off
with,
like
reasoning
starts
off
with
why
the
guidelines
are
there
and
then
how
to
create
a
community
suggestion
and
shared
ideas
like
broke
it
down
into
there's
17,
there's
22
steps,
and
it's
you
know
once
you
go
through
it,
it's
not
difficult.
So.
A
F
H
It
seems
so
anyway,
you
know
how
you
did
those
trainings
for
newbies
to
dework
a
while
back.
It
seems
to
me,
like
both
hitting
nadia's
point
about
how
do
you
pr
this
thing
and
get
it
used
and
the
functional
getting
it
like
using
it.
You
get
those
champions
in
first.
H
Those
would
be
your
people
that
you'd
want
to
get
in
your
your
joey,
your
mercy
or
their
direct
subcircle
people
that
are
going
to
be
driving
things
get
those
folks
in
here,
get
them
scott
or
go
through
they.
Obviously
they
have
the
pdf,
but
if
they
need
more,
you
know
like
scott
was
doing,
and
I'm
not
volunteering,
you
scott,
but
like
like
a
small
like
20-minute,
walk
through
walkabout
like
with
d-work,
and
that
and
throw
some
channels
in
toolmaker,
channel,
funded
proposer,
channel
challenge.
Setting
and
you're.
H
A
H
Don't
need
totally
agree
so
yeah,
like
probably
an
updated
server
guide
or
something
to
that
effect,
but
yeah
if
they
don't
see
a
lot
of
that
clutter
that
is
not
relevant
to
them
or
that
they
do
not
know
that
they're
clicking
on
like
if
they're
savvy.
There
is
also
a
benefit
like
that
holistic.
Word.
H
Nadia
loves
right
now,
like
there's
a
really
cool
benefit
from
being
able
to
see
different
people's
internal
conversations,
maybe
not
piping
up
all
the
time,
but
just
seeing
what's
going
on
in
that
community
and
you
gain
a
lot
more
holistic
knowledge
about
just
how
the
whole
damn
system
is
working
and
that
could
be
valuable.
But
just
so
people
know
hey
if
you
click
on
this
role,
you're
going
to
have
all
this
other
crap
pop
up
over
here
on
the
left.
It's
going
to
make
it
messier,
but
it
does
give
you
these
options.
K
A
H
To
read,
it
sounds
like
you
got
it
set
then
so,
like
the
fundamental
would
be
getting
your
drivers,
your
champions
in
first
yeah,
you
can
click,
kick
it
out
in
town
hall,
but
it
would
also
be
their
personal
responsibilities
to
get
their
representative
communities
pulled
in.
So
if
you
had
a
challenge,
team
or
or
funded
proposers,
they
would
be
the
main
driver
that
would
have
the
reach
to
their
communities
to
pull
their
community
into
the
into
the
spot.
If
it
was
going
to
be
useful.
A
Well,
I
just
need.
I
just
need
to
know
me
personally:
I've
got
no
issues
setting
up
the
server
server
set
up
for
working
groups
anyway,
so
I
just
need
to
know
what
working
groups
are
there.
Every
working
group
will
have
their
own
dwork
channel
their
own
github
channel
like
two
or
three
voice
channels.
A
general
chat.
A
B
Okay,
so
I
got
this
I'm
like
making
some
notes
here,
so
we
need
to
onboard
new
users
and
champions,
particularly
like
joey,
I'm
interested
to
hear
from
you
too.
Like
should
we
do
like
a
group
thing?
Would
it
be
better
to
do
it
one-on-one
and
set
things
up
one-on-one
with
everyone?
Should
we
do
like
try
to
get
you
mercy
rhys
like?
Should
we
try
to
make
more
of
a
collection
of
a
group
kind
of
a
thing
there?
B
A
K
A
A
A
As
long
as
the
moderator
knows
how
to
do
it,
pinning
messages
pinning
pinning
comments,
pinning
important
information,
any
type
of
like
working
group,
specific
items
that
need
to
be
accomplished
on
the
discord
server,
because
there
are
some
permissions
that
aren't
available
to
everybody
specifically
pinning
messages,
or
else
there
would
be
like
a
thousand
pinned
messages
in
every
channel,
because
everything's
every
time
somebody
types
something
they
would
think
it
needs
to
be
pinned.
A
So
everybody
can
see
it,
and
so
that's
that's
just
up
for
the
moderators
alone,
moderators
admins
representatives
representatives
also
have
that,
like
your
representative,
will
also
have
their
role
too.
So
y'all
have
I'll
have
greater
permission
in
the
server
than
community
members
and
cas
and
vcas.
F
H
A
B
A
So
that's
the
whole
reason
that
there's
a
community
board
and
that's
to
get
community
input
and
feedback
and
discussion
on
that
particular
topic
granted
not
everybody's
the
tool
maker,
but
maybe
that
gives
them
a
unique
perspective
on
the
a
toolmaker
issue
or
you
know
an
spo
issue
or
something
of
that
nature.
So
it
depends
depends
how
the
working
group
wants
to
operate
if
they
want
community
input
on
on
updates.
You
know
iterations
process
improvements
then
put
it
in
the
community
suggestion
on
the
shared
ideas,
project
board,
put
in
community
suggestions.
A
B
Okay,
so
it
sounds
like
what
I'm
hearing
here
is.
I
want
to
move
to
go
back
to
jeremy.
What
I'm
hearing
here
is.
We
need
to
corral
some
meetings
for
new
steward,
I'm
going
to
call
it
steward
right
now,
onboarding
and
working
group
setup.
B
So
I
will
take
that.
I
forgot
to
mention
that
I
also
mentioned
it.
We
mercy
and
I
had
a
the
joint
our
joint
meeting
with
danny
and
chris
today
and
mentioned
this,
and
they
were
like
excited
about
it
too.
So
I
think
there's
no
one's
there's
not
been
really
pushback
from
anyone.
They
only
put
the
pushback
has
been.
B
Can
it
just
be
added
to
another
server,
and
I
think
the
complexity
of
this
is
like,
maybe
a
no
on
that
that
was
my
especially
since
it's
already
set
up
here,
but
once
I
said
that
everyone
went
yeah,
so
I
think
we're
pretty
in
good
shape.
B
So,
okay,
so
meetings
for
new,
stuart
onboarding
we
need
to
like,
I
think
we
need
some
finalization
of.
I,
like
I
like
the
idea
with
your
pdf
there,
scott.
I
think
we
could
just
make
some
like
clickable
videos,
similar
to
what
lynn
is
always
suggesting
for
like
two
to
five
minute
videos:
here's
how
you
set
up
this.
B
Here's,
how
you
do
that
we
do
maybe
like
a
short
series
of
them
that
could
live
on
the
youtube
channel
and
we
could
post
because
some
people
just
don't
want
to
read
a
bunch
of
documents
we
could
have
it.
We
could
play
here's
a
link
to
the
document
and
here's
the
pdf
explanation,
because
what
you
just
did
there
is
awesome.
B
So
maybe
we'll
do
I'll
just
put
here
finalization
of
like
I'm
just
going
to
call
it
user
guide
rails,
probably
like
framework,
is
probably
a
better
word
there,
but
we'll
just
start
there
and
I'll
clean
it
up
later,
and
then
we
need
to
update
the
server
accordingly.
C
A
C
G
B
All
right,
so
I
think
that'll
probably
be
like
I
will
champion
this,
but
I
think
scott
would
probably
like
you
and
admit-
and
you
know
what
maybe
this
is
a
little
bit
like.
We
get
the
draft
of
it
and
we
share
it,
and
people
can
weigh
in
on
it
too,
because
it's
it's
going
to
be
everyone's
decision
a
little
bit
like
joey.
If
you
have
space
to
do
that
and
mercy
can
weigh
in-
and
we
all
can
weigh
in
on
this
part
so
that
there's
lots
of
different
thinking
in
here
yeah.
B
Okay,
all
right
great,
so
I
think
we
can
check
that
one
out
any
comments
on
this
and
dang
it.
I
didn't
hear
you
anything
from
you
yet
what
you
thinking
about
this
or
lynn,
anyone
else.
F
J
Oh
man,
as
a
I'm,
going
to
talk
slow
as
a
bridge
concept
between
the
onboarding
of
stuart
and
the
treasury.
J
Is
that
essay
that
I
sent
you
nadia,
and
I
put
that
up
in
the
hub
call
chat.
J
It's
it's
a
formalization
of
principles
that
are
operating
in
the
background
on
the
treasury
and
it
is
meant
to
be
a
auditing
mechanism.
It
doesn't
look
like
it
from
the
front,
but
it's
an
accountability
mechanism
and
the
idea
is
that
there
are
actual
actions
you
can
take
as
a
leader
as
a
steward
in
the
treasury.
They're
called
trustees,
but
anytime,
a
like
a
working
group,
is
formed.
J
There's
an
obligation
from
that
working
group
to
appoint
people
like
scott
was
saying
a
moderator
to
the
server
in
the
case
of
treasury.
There's
a
board
of
trustees
that
sits
at
the
top
level
of
it.
J
So
that's
kind
of
a
bridge
concept,
I'm
not
sure
how
or
where
to
put
that
information
out
there,
except
as
just
a
piece
of
the
onboarding
puzzle.
When,
when
stewards
come
into
this
environment,
I
think
it
would
be
handy
to
see
it.
I
don't
think
anybody
needs
to
look
at
it
as
a
rule
to
follow,
but
more
is
something
that
they
may
choose
to
adopt
in
interacting
in
this
environment,
and
this
environment
would
describe
as
a
proposal
assessment
environment.
J
It's
not
cas
exactly.
I
think,
that's
what
we're
getting
at
with
this
idea
of
bringing
in
other
people
into
this
hub.
It's
not
about
community
advisors.
It's
about
getting
the
work
done
of
proposal
assessment,
which
includes
mentoring,
proposers
and
considering
the
unfunded
proposers
or
the
new
proposers
who
really
have
no
representation.
H
I
think
it's
a
little
broad,
a
little
bit
broader
than
proposal
assessment,
a
little
bit
broader.
I
mean
if
you
have
tool
makers
in
here
and
you
have
spos.
Oh
like
great.
That's
it's
it's!
It's
more
yeah
yeah!
It's
like
the
mission
mission,
cardano!
It's
it's!
It's
where
the
rubber
meets
the
road
for
a
lot
of
cardano.
I
mean
outside
of
idea,
scale
and
actual
the
things
that
happen
there
and
and
in
many
places
in
the
community.
H
A
framework
in
there
and
anybody
any
group
with
funds
you're
offering
up
a
possible
template
for
hey
here's,
a
suggestion.
It's
already
been
worked
on
in
detail
here.
You
go.
If
you
come
up
with
your
own
thing,
that's
cool,
but
at
throwing
it
up
there
for
a
possibility
for
them.
It
would
be
valuable.
B
J
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
there
is
a
well
for
sure
we
just
it
doesn't
help
to
apply
any
of
the
labels,
because
we
don't
know
it
doesn't
help
us
to
define
edge
to
this
environment.
At
this
point
so
proposal
assessment,
that's
as
wide
as
a
net
as
I
feel
comfortable
casting,
but
we
just
don't
need
to
label
it.
You
know
we
don't
need
to
say
what
we're
casting
the
net
for
and
then.
J
Ideally,
you'd
be
talking
about
the
ability
to
issue
a
credential
in
one
area
of
catalyst
that
has
a
validity
in
other
areas
of
catalyst,
but
that's
a
ways
out
that
could
be
like
five
or
six
funds
away
for
all.
I
know,
but
that's
what
you're
shooting
for
you're
shooting
for
that
interoperability
and
that
transitive
truck
nature.
J
Yeah,
I
would
like
to
see
the
right
out
of
the
gate
before
the
first
group.
The
first
governance
working
group-
that's
created
under
the
treasury,
is
the
administration
leaders
who
handle
the
day-to-day
operation
of
it,
they're
a
working
group
and
the
rules
for
how
they
set
themselves
up
by
having
a
charter
and
by
describing
their
roles
and
if
they
want
to
be
paid,
they
include
that
in
their
charter,
things
like
that
all
the
other
working
groups
that
are
organized
it's
under
the
treasury
framework.
J
This
wouldn't
apply
to
dwork,
but
it
could,
but
it's
just
a
template
for
for
applying
to
be
a
working
group
and
there's
not
really
a
gate
keeping
function
on
that
it's
as
far
as
the
treasury
is
concerned,
all
the
working
groups
have
to
do
to
be,
in
conformance
with
it
is
to
not
relate
any
of
the
fundamental
principles
that
it's
that
are
in
the
framework
as
long
as
they're
they're
doing
that
they
can
approach
it
from
almost
any
angle.
That
makes
sense
so
I'd
like
to
see
a
risk
assessment.
J
Working
group
show
up
I'd
like
to
see
a
did
or
a
credential
working
group
show
up.
They
all
have
the
option
to
be
funded
from
the
treasury
itself,
but
right
out
of
the
gate,
something
called
tag.
Treasury
administrative
group
is
a
special
working
group,
that's
created
at
the
same
time
the
treasury
is,
and
then
I
would
like
to
see
immediately
after
that,
a
governance
framework
working
group
build
out
as
well
just
to
to
be
a
guide
for
others
trying
to
adopt
it.
If
nothing
else.
A
I
thought
can
I
can
you
can
y'all
hear
me.
C
A
All
right,
so
I
want
to
make
a
suggestion.
I
haven't
made
a
suggestion
before,
but
jeremy.
Actually,
if
you
want
entirely
up
to
you,
since
this
is
your
proposal,
I
think
nadia's
proposal
and
maybe
a
couple
other
people,
but
you
don't
have
nobody
in
here,
really
has
to
use
like
the
current
d
work
board,
I
mean
there
can
be
multiple
d
work
accounts
that
are
used
in
this
server,
and
so
that
is
an
option.
A
I'm
not
trying
to
make
it
more
complicated
because,
like
that's,
probably
going
to
be
more
work
for
me,
but
I
mean
the
op
the
opportunity
is
there,
like
jeremy?
If
you
want
to
set
up
a
completely
a
dework
account
for
your
project
for
this
treasury
project,
then
you
can
and
then
you
can
just
put
the
integrations
into
this
discord
server
and
then
you
can
have
you
know
your
working
groups
with
those
roles
that
you
had
suggested
or
commented
on.
J
Yeah
and
I've
been
thinking
about
that-
I
think
the
way
for
that
to
happen
would
be
not
for
me
to
set
it
up
for,
but
for
the
actual
treasury
administrative
group
to
work
together
to
set
that
up,
because
I
think
some
of
the
first
things
they
will
do
as
an
administrative
group
is,
they
will
design
the
templates
for
proposers
to
use
who
want
rapid
funding
and
if
the
thing
is
catching
on
all
around
catalyst.
J
The
archiving
thing
is
a
problem.
Hopefully
that
gets
sorted
out,
but
but
if
it
even
if
it
doesn't,
it
can
still
function
pretty
well
in,
like
a
bounty
mode
which,
up
to
a
certain
amount
of
funding
from
the
rapid
funding,
I
think
that
would
be
a
really
great
way
to
streamline
processes
for
applicants
for
people
who
want
to
get
something
done,
because
there
is
the
the
governance
framework
is
top
heavy,
it's
complex
and
any
place.
J
J
I
would
like
to
see
somebody
else.
Do
it
I
mean
I
I
would
like
to
do
it
myself,
but
the
less
I
do.
The
better
handing
off
everything
is
ideal
at
some
point.
A
B
B
J
That's
that's
pretty
good
that
you
don't
need
governance
framework
if
you
don't
have
risk.
So
if
any
working
group
that's
coming
into
the
into
the
full
if
they
are
not
accruing
risk
around
them,
somehow,
whether
it's
community
funds,
the
risk
that
we're
worried
about
is
the
commons
right.
It's
things
that
belong
to
everybody,
falling
into
little
pools
of
control
and
anytime.
That
happens.
J
You
would
like
to
see
the
people
who
have
that
control
a
be
accountable
and
b
have
some
kind
of
guidance
for
them,
like
they're,
accountable
to
the
community,
but
they
need
guidance
for
themselves
because
a
lot
of
people
don't
want
power.
That's
not
what
they're
at
after
they're
after
getting
something
done
or
whatever,
and
it
helps
them
to
have
the
tools
as
well.
J
But
if
you're
paying
somebody
to
research
there's
a
little
there,
especially
coming
from
a
community
to
the
degree
that
other
working
groups
coming
into
d
work
have
risk,
they
may
want
to
adopt
certain
pieces
of
government's
framework
to
the
degree
that
the
thing
they're
working
on
could
fall
underneath
what
the
treasury
is
doing.
J
J
But
in
general
I'd
say
working
groups
that
come
in
if
they're,
not
if
they
don't
have
risk
accruing
around
them.
They
probably
don't
need
to
worry
about
governance
and
managing
their
operations.
Project
management
is
a
different.
It's
a
different
thing,
because
it's
not
that's
not
about
accountability,
except
maybe
between
the
members
themselves.
J
B
It
might
not
be
fundamental,
but
let's
say
you
have
a
group
come
in
and
they
develop
something
that
has
an
incentive
structure
and
they
want
to
draw
from
the
treasury
from
the
ca
treasury
in
order
to
fund
their
idea
that
they've
put
together
taken
through
dework
and
proposed,
or
this
would
be
pre
that
I
guess
their
intention
is
to
do
that,
and
so
when
they
come
in
as
a
working
group,
or
I
think
we
should
start
for
me
in
my
mind,
I
need
separation
like
working
group
for
me
is
like
the
the
category
related
to
a
role
or
a
process.
B
So
like
a
challenge,
teams,
working
group
and
then
underneath
that
you
might
have-
or
let's
do
case,
it's
straightforward
ca
working
group
underneath
that
you
might
have
a
group
working
on
ca,
onboarding
and
a
group
working
on
incentivization
for
some
part
of
the
process
right.
So
then
I'm
going
to
call
that
a
sub
circle.
So
a
group
comes
in
and
forms
underneath
a
subcircle
comes
and
forms
underneath
that
working
group
is
it
then.
B
B
Those
people
would
adopt
the
framework
for
the
work
that
they're
doing
or
are
you
thinking
of
it
more
broadly,
as
anyone
who
comes
into
that
working
group
and
the
working
group
itself
in
order
for
them
to
work
underneath
that
they
would,
any
group
would
have
to
adhere
to
those
because
they
have
been
adopted
by
a
working
group.
Initially.
J
J
That's
a
case
of
a
governance
framework
would
assure
us
that
they're
listening
like
that,
might
be
the
most
important
thing
we
want
from
them
and
so
to
collaborate
with
them
on
a
project
rather
than
just
take
what
they
give
us.
We
would
have
some
requirements
of
them
and
the
big
one.
I
think
I
think,
without
genes
being
that
they're
sort
of
a
federated
steward
of
the
beginning
of
this,
it
would
be
listening.
J
We
need
to
be
sure
that
they're
listening
to
what
happens
in
the
community
as
they
do
things
so
to
to
like
shrink
that
down
and
just
look
at
somebody
coming
into
the
group
with
say
an
idea
about
changing
some
aspect
to
chca
worker
initiative
of
that
sort.
J
H
H
But
if
you're
coming
in
for
ca,
vca
stuff
you're
automatically
part
of
the
governance
framework,
because
you
need
that
accountability,
you
need
that
transparency.
You
need
the
checks
and
balances
and
the
good
fences
between
neighbors,
because
there's
that
risk
that
you
discussed
is
that
am
I
am
I
doing
this
right.
J
Yeah,
no,
I
I
think
you've
got
it.
The
the
thing
to
remember,
as
just
a
principle
to
have
in
the
background
is
you
don't
tell
people
you're
governing
them
right?
They
volunteer
themselves,
they
consent
to
governance.
D
J
Also,
other
things
are
triggered
as
well.
If
you're
commenting
on
the
documents
for
change
like
if
you're
looking
at
saying.
Well,
I'm
not
asking
for
funds,
but
I
see
some
way
to
improve
this.
I
see
a
way
to
make
it
better.
I
have
a
problem
with
the
way
you
guys
are
doing
something
that
all
so
brings
you
into
the
governance
framework,
specifically
the
code
of
conduct.
It
really
doesn't
extend
to
beyond
that.
J
There's
a
document
that
is
in
the
process
of
being
created
for
this
governance
framework
called
a
trust
matrix
and
it's
basically
every
role
that
is
defined
within
the
governance
framework
and
every
action
that
they
do,
that
is
governed
by
the
governance
framework
and
it's
just
a
reference
table
so
that
you
could
say:
hey,
I'm
a
commenter
on
documents.
What
what
governs
me-
and
you
could
look
through
that
and
you
could
see
well.
The
only
thing
that
applies
to
me
is
the
codecon
conduct.
J
That's
the
only
thing
I
need
to
worry
about
and
that's
sort
of
the
base
level
of
governance
that
it
provides,
which
just
says
be
decent
to
each
other.
It's
not
anything
beyond
that,
but
if
you
do
something
a
little
bit
more,
if
you
ask
for
funding
well,
that
brings
you
into
a
whole
other
level.
The
most
governed
people
in
this
governance
framework
are
the
leaders,
the
trustees,
that
we
call
them
trustees
in
the
framework.
J
You
call
anything
you
want,
but
it's
just
the
people
that
are
taking
the
lead
on
something
who
who
obtain
something
from
the
community.
So
if
you,
if
they're
gov
or
if
they're,
controlling
something
that
belongs
to
the
community
like
scott
governor,
he
doesn't
cover,
he
maintains
the
server
for
the
cas.
J
Well,
that
puts
him
in
a
leadership
role.
That's
control,
that's
decision
making,
so
you
would
so
he's
highly
governed
under
this
treasury
framework
if
he
was
being
funded
by
it
to
do
that,
he
would
have
the
most
rules
that
applied
to
him
and
below.
That
would
be
people
in
working
groups,
people
who
are
establishing
committees
that
are
funded
by
the
treasury
or
that
directly
want
to
impact
how
the
treasury
operates.
J
Like
a
risk
assessment
group
or
a
governance
framework
group
that
just
wanted
to
study
governance,
they
would
be
highly
governed
by
it,
but
at
the
most
base
level,
somebody
comes
in
with
questions
they're
part
of
the
community
they're
commenting
in
the
channels
that
are
going
to
be
set
up
for
the
treasury,
they're
part
of
that
treasury,
community
they're
governed
at
a
very
minimal
level
by
the
code
of
conduct.
It's
the
the
least
amount
of
governance,
that's
available
in.
A
So
what
you
said
about
me
running
the
server
like
so
I'm
like,
I
am
governed
more
than
anybody
else,
that's
because
of
the
role
right,
so
I
don't
necessarily.
Is
it
like
right?
Is
it
the
person
who
and
don't
take
this
the
wrong
way?
Everybody
is
it
the
person
that
has
the
greatest
permissions?
G
J
Sure,
if
they're
being
by
the
treasure
yeah
for
sure,
if
they're
being
funded
by
the
treasury,
the
more
the
more
capital,
if
you
want
to
call
it
that
that
they're
obtaining
within
cattle
plus
keeping
in
mind
that
the
capital
and
catalyst
doesn't
look
like
classic
capital,
it's
it's
more.
Like
collaborative
connections,
relationships
that
kind
of
thing,
that's
the
actual
capital,
that's
crewing,
so
the
more
pivotal
the
more
critical
somebody
becomes
in
catalyst
because
of
the
decisions
they
have
the
power
to
make
or
they
need
to
make.
H
Right,
great
power
comes
great
responsibility
like
the
the
higher
up
the
food
chain.
You
get
on
capital,
whether
it's
its
influence
or
taking
capital
or
whatever
the
more
that's
going
to
be
required
of
you,
because
it
is
a
commons
and
it
is
risk
for
the
community
and
we're
here
to
protect
the
community
and
protect
cardano.
J
And
the
person
that
is
accruing
those
responsibilities
needs
protection
too.
That's
the
other
thing
to
remember:
they
can
use
governance
to
help
them
yeah
and,
and
it
also
it
helps
them
to
to
not
be
there's
a
balance.
You
you
strike
in
anything
where
you're
critical,
but
you
don't
want
to
be
critical
because
the
more
critical
clue
you
are
in
doing
something
the
less
you
can
do
other
things
right.
So,
if
you're
happy
just
maintaining
a
server,
maybe
that
works
for
you.
But
you
could.
J
You
could
say
that
there's
value
to
be
had
from
a
community
that
won't
let
you
rest
on
that,
because
you
could
become
quite
ossified
stuck
in
one
place,
getting
your
catalyst
funding
to
just
kind
of
do
the
same
thing
over
and
over
over
again,
but
you're,
not
growing,
you're,
not
expanding
and
and
developing,
and
that's
in
my
personal
opinion,
that's
a
risk,
but
I
would
say
that
you
could
look
at
living
systems
and
say
that's
a
risk
to
yourself
so
having
a
community
that
that
wants
better
for
you
and
in
the
same
breath,
is
also
able
to
obtain
responsibility
from
you.
J
Like
a
good
example.
Is
scott
as
he
runs
the
server
appoints
moderators
right
he's,
adding
people
who
can
do
the
same
things?
He
can
do
that's
spreading
out
his
his
power
he's,
making
it
a
diffuse
thing
he's
and
then,
after
a
while
he's
no
longer
the
only
guy
who
makes
decisions
in
a
server,
that's
good
for
him
right!
That's
as
good
for
him
as
it
is
for
the
people
who
also
want
to
make
decisions
in
that
server,
because,
if
he's
the
only
guy
making
decision
server,
that's
all
he's
going
to
ever.
J
Do
it's
because
there's
too
many
decisions
to
be
made.
So
it's
it's
a
it's
a
natural
thing,
you're
trying
to
recognize
it's
a
natural
balance
in
in
your
your
own
ability
to
do
things.
You
know,
which
is
a
finite
night
thing.
D
E
F
C
B
Well,
I
think,
there's
an
important
conversation
too,
because,
like
incentives
should
come
in
here,
somewhere
yeah
because
there
is,
there
is
work
done
and
there
is
there
is
funds
here.
So
I
don't
know
that's
a
conversation
for
tonight
and
right
now,
but-
and
I
also
think
you
know
we
wanted
to-
I
remember
the
early
comments
on
the
subcircle
idea
that
they'd
be
volunteer
in
the
beginning.
B
I
think
that
was
actually
your
comment,
jeremy,
on
like
one
of
the
really
old
tommy
documents
on
the
subcircle
that
they
start
out
in
that
way,
so
that
they
can
really
we
can
understand
the
model
and
and
and
let
that
let
that
happen.
But
at
what
point
at
what
point?
Should
we
start
to
really
consider
that
the
incentive
piece?
Because
I
do
think
that
it's
my
personal
feeling.
B
The
deployment
of
some
of
these
funds
towards
the
things
that
have
now
been
established
and
require,
or
like
maybe
just
invite
or
warrant
incentives
against
them,
especially
if
you're
going
to
have
multiple
working
groups.
B
Well,
I
guess
it's
from
the
perspective
of
the
treasury
when
it
relates
to
things
that
could
fall
under
and
claim
against
the
treasury,
but
also
you
know
each
of
us-
and
I
I
haven't
even
raised
this
question
yet
so
this
is
me
thinking
like
off
the
cuff,
but
we
all
have
this
this
new.
B
B
So
I'm
just
thinking
of
ways
that
like,
if
we're
all
gonna
try
to
create
an
environment
where
the
communities
can
work
together,
then
I
guess
I'm
opening
the
thinking
about
that
because,
as
of
yet
a
lot,
but
none
of
the
work
that
everyone
has
done,
server
related
and
a
lot
of
the
working
group
stuff
that's
been
done
so
far-
has
not
been
incentivized
and
it's
just
community
effort.
B
J
Yeah
that
delay
is
getting
us
yeah.
The
rapid
funding
money
is
going
to
be
good
for
a
lot
of
those
things,
especially
bounties
right.
If
I
mean
I
would
like
to
see
bounties
settled
in
a
24-hour
cycle,
the
only
difficulty
we
should
be
we
should
have
with
that
is
the
idea
of
getting
that
asynchronous
communication
to
get
it
done
in
24
hours,
but
the
process
itself
should
be
done
that
quickly
on
say
a
500
bounty.
J
Obviously,
bigger
stuff
needs
more
communication.
It
needs
more
time.
The
interesting
thing
about
your
the
circles.
7000
is
the
way
that
was
as
far
as
I
understand.
J
I
don't
know
that
you
need
to
think
too
hard
on
that.
It's
I,
the
the
goal
between
behind
giving
it
to
the
to
the
reps,
I
believe,
was
to
make
sure
that
when
somebody
helped
them
get
something
done,
when
somebody
created
a
survey
or
something
like
that,
that
was
helping
the
ca
do
their
job
that
they
could
quickly
turn
that
around
incentivize
it
so
that
more
people
would
be
trying
to
do
those
things.
So
I
don't
think
that
you
need
to
be
looking
at
the
treasury
connection
for
your
seven
thousand.
J
I
agree
because
they're
really
trusting
yeah,
that
money
was
given
to
you
to
trust
you
to
use
it
properly.
Let's
see
how
that
works.
As
far
as
the
treasury
goes,
the
treasury
could
do
a
better
job
of
things
like
every
month
distributing
funds
to
scott
to
pay
to
boost
the
server
or
something
like
that.
That
would
be
a
better
use
of
the
treasury.
J
Just
in
terms
of
things
going
on
right
now
and,
of
course
later
on,
the
treasure
would
be
great
for
hey
here's,
somebody
that
wants
to
put
in
you
know
50
hours
of
work,
to
create
an
algorithm
to
split
up
the
vca
spreadsheet
in
order
to
figure
out
how
to
make
it
redundant
and
get
all
the
reviews
in
and
something
like
that.
You
like
to
actually
build
something
like
a
tool
maker
that
wants
to
build
something
for
the
ca.
J
H
It's
free,
you
have
to
there's.
There's
people
can
volunteer
to
boost
the
server,
which
means
they
get
better
bandwidth
they
on
the
audio
and
the
video
they
get
bigger
downloads
and
files.
There's
certain
small
benefits.
Some
of
them
are
just
cosmetic,
but
there's
it's
mostly
about
bandwidth
for
audio
video
and
file
download
size.
It's
that's
the
main
benefits,
but
I
think
that
was
just
being
used
as
one
example
other
than
that
discord
is
pretty
much
free
like
it's.
It's
I'm
sure.
Well,
you
never!
You
always
pay
it
for
it
somehow,
but
it's
pretty
much
free.
H
H
My
understanding
is,
you
have
specific
requirements
to
me
from
the
proposal
language
and
as
long
as
you
meet
that
it's
all
good
and
you
can
close
it
out
and
wash
your
hands
and
do
your
closeout
video
for
whatever
you
guys
got
to
do
and
it's
good
but
yeah,
the
the.
When
you
have
an
official
treasury
and
you're
trying
to
establish
some
kind
of
sub
governance
within
a
a
domain
like
cavca,
I
yeah,
that's
gonna,
be
I
agree
with
jeremy.
It's
gonna
be
a
slower,
more
deliberate
process.
B
I
I
I'm
very
thankful
for
both
of
those
statements
and
it's
helpful
to
hear
that
also
because
sometimes
when
you're
in
the
position
of
deploying
it
it's
like,
you
really
want
to
clarify
what
people.
What
interpretations
are?
I
guess
my
question
also
like
the
my
follow-up
question
or
like
embedded
in
that
question
is
also.
B
Should
we
start
thinking
about,
like
is
a
steward,
an
incentivized
position
is
it
a
term
is,
does
that
vary
for
each
one?
Does
is
a
moderator,
an
incentivized
position,
that
kind
of
a
thing
where
we
have
people
who
are
dedicated
and
have
an
accountability
for
doing
certain
work
here?
That
is
valuable.
B
A
Can
I
comment
on
that
uh-huh,
I
think
stewards
and
moderators
should
be
an
incentivized
role.
What
that
is,
I
don't
know,
but
I
think
it
should
be
a
and
I
don't
know
how
it
would
be
done,
should.
E
C
E
E
E
L
B
H
C
H
That
is
a
fascinating
idea.
I
mean
this
is
totally
tangential
in
the
weeds,
especially
jeremy.
I
know
your
treasury,
you
were
gonna,
you
were
gonna
put
that
into
a
community
funded,
sbo
and
and
the
amount
of
money
that's
in
there.
Now
it
wouldn't
be
worth
it
there's
so
many
the
spos
are
saturated.
It
would
be
impossible
to
get
it
off
the
ground
at
this
point,
but
but
what
swarm
did
with
making
an
spo
like
that,
like
that,
also
provides
perpetual
funding
that
doesn't
even
come
from
directly
from
catalyst
funding?
It's
it's
an
interesting
idea.
H
H
So
is
that
I
think
they're
making.
H
J
It's
longer
than
that,
something
unique
going
on
there
because
they
had
it
for
three
months
and
they
had
it
immediately
again
for
three
months:
it's
it's
in
there
it's
in
one
of
the
chats,
that's
on
there.
They
talked
about
it.
What
happened
but
like
they
have
it
foundation.
B
I
think
so
jeremy,
what
what
else
do
we
we
needed
to
talk
about
tonight
with
the
with
this?
Do
you
wanna,
do
you
wanna
cover?
I
don't
know
if
everything
we
talked
about,
there
was
what
you
were
intending
to
cover
tonight.
So
I'm.
J
Yeah,
the
the
main
thing
for
the
treasury
is
to
get
that
treasury
administrative
group
filled
out
and
I
do
not
have
an
opinion
on
how
that's
done.
I
put
in
the
in
the
document
that
my
I
voted
for.
You
know
thunderdome
with
giant
q-tips,
but,
however,
we
want
to
get
people
engaged
in
that
it's
tricky,
because
this
in
any
governance
framework
you
trade,
something
for
something
and
in
this
one
we
traded
sustainability.
J
It's
a
six-month
six-month
governance
framework
and
it
doesn't
have
a
lot
going
for
it
to
make
it
last
longer
than
that
and
one
of
the
things
that
they
took
a
hit
was
the
admin
group
gets
50
ada
for
six
months.
Work
like
it's
ridiculous,
but
that
was
a
trade-off
for
something
new
and
untested
and
experimental
and-
and
it
was
basically
saying
it's
a
token
that
says
that
they
will
be
paid
and
in
the
future
we
could
maybe
decide
to
pay
an
administrative
group
more
based
on
the
work
they
do.
J
There
was
a
trade
out
there
did
we
have
to
do
the
trade-off,
maybe
maybe
not
I
don't
know,
but
but
we
did
so
there's
not
a
lot
of
funds
for
that
administrative
group
to
come
in
and
run
the
treasury.
It's
so
we're
looking
for.
You
know
a
unique
breed
of
people
that
want
to
just
experiment
and
want
to
play
around
with
it.
H
Face
it
with
taking
taking
a
survey
who
would
be
interested,
you
know,
throwing
it
out
there.
You
might
get
to
the
point
where
you
don't
have
to
do
the
thunder
dome
with
giant
q-tips,
because
you
only
have
you
know
the
number
of
people
you
need
applying
to
it,
especially
for
a
six-month
stint
for
50
and
if
they
don't,
you
might
get
a
saturation
point
where
you
don't
have
any
other
takers.
But,
aside
from
that
I'll.
Second,
the
q-tip
idea
that
sounds
like
fun.
B
That's
what
this
document
is,
that
jeremy
wrote
the
framework
for
and
part
of
the
governance
of
this
treasury
is
that
there
needs
to
be
a
gover
treasury
advisor
group
and
it's
like
approximately
six
people
and
as
a
beginning,
we
have
them
each
sort
of
overseeing
one
of
the
funding
categories,
although
it
doesn't
have
to
be
necessarily
done
that
way,
but
that's
sort
of
how
we
started
thinking
about
it
and
that
as
those
people
are,
we
need
a
process
for
identifying
their
interests
and
selecting
them
and
then
that's
part
of
the
experiment
of
the
treasury,
so
yeah,
then
that
has
to
be
in
place
before
we
can
take
claims
and
a
few
other
things,
of
course,
but.
E
What
wouldn't
andre
and
those
the
two
guys
that
are
doing
the
pay
for
the
funds?
Now
I
mean,
isn't
that
some
goal
expand
out
and
help
groups
like
ours
like
yours,.
J
Is
an
interesting
yeah,
they're
they're,
a
different
style
of
governance
than
what
we're
going
to
try
and
it's
going
to
be
interesting
to
see
these
ideas
running
alongside
each
other,
because
they
both
have
their
perks.
You
know
theirs
is
they're,
creating
a
service
that
they're
going
to
be
able
to
offer
within
the
community.
J
That's
basically
accountants.
You
know
it's
an
accountancy
service.
This
is
a
little
bit
different
because
it's
a
decision-making
service
for
funding.
So
it's
mini.
It's
a
mini
catalyst.
J
J
The
idea
is
that
the
community
will
always
be
churning
people
into
roles
to
to
take
turns
in
a
way
at
running
these
things
and
one
of
the
things
that
you
won't
have,
which
they
will
have
in
their
treasury
guild.
Is
you
won't
have
expertise
right?
That's
I
mean
somebody
could
certainly
bring
expertise
to
the
table,
but
the
point
of
it
is
not
to
have
experts
in
place
to
distribute
funding
and
to
audit
it.
J
It's
to
be
developing
the
community
churning
the
community
turning
over
roles,
letting
the
community
invent
new
roles
within
it
and
invent
new
ways
of
using
it
so
it'll
it's
it's
meant
to
be
anti
ossification.
It
can't
seize
up
or,
if
that's
the
hope,
just
that
it
can't
see
something.
Who
knows
so.
J
So
it's
going
to
invent
its
own
way
it's
going
forward,
and
that
includes
like
how
people
ask
funding
it's
going
to
invent
its
own
ways
to
do
that,
and
that's
a
job
of
that
treasury.
Administrative
group.
If
they've
got
an
idea
for
how
to
get
that
funding
out
faster,
they
can
try
it
and
if
the
community
has
an
idea
about
how
to
get
it
out
faster,
there's
a
background
protocol
running
within
this
treasury
framework.
J
That's
a
mirror
image
of
the
sips
protocol
and
it's
a
way
to
create
new
standards
for
submitting
proposals
for
rapid
funding
or
for
submitting
auditing
requirements
or
even
submitting
ideas
about
how
we
want
to
hold
people
accountable.
J
I
don't
know
how
it's
going
to
be
used.
I
just
know
that
it's
going
to
be
there
to
be
used
for
something
so.
J
In
terms
of
like
what
the
treasury
guild
can
do,
it's
a
ver,
very
different
style
of
governance,
from
what
this
experiment
is
going
to
do,
and
the
point
of
doing
this
this
way
is
to
actually
run
alongside
things
like
that.
B
Any
any
ideas
to
toss
in
here
about
how
we
might
take
interest
and
a
point,
because
that's
and
it's
still
funny
that
you
had
one
of
them
in
q-tips,
because
I
I
think
I
said
this
to
you
in
telegram
that
that
same
week,.
G
B
But
yeah,
so
I
gave
you
that
little
delightful,
anecdotal
intermission
there,
so
you
could
come
up
with
some
ideas
which
I
will
now
be
silent
to
listen
to.
E
B
So
there
are
different
categories:
yep
see
if
I
can
find
the
link
for
you
just
so
you
have
the
direct
link
to
it.
So
it's
different
categories
and
are
thinking
and
tell
me
where
you're
at
with
it
now
jeremy.
But
the
thinking
was
that
we
would,
you
know,
figure
out
a
way
to
put
people
in
place
in
this
administrative
function
and
then
their
responsibilities
to
carry
out
the
framework
which
is
like
receiving
claims
and
validating
them.
B
Might
get
just
get
t-shirts
and
just
put
like
a
square
outline
on
them
and
start
passing
them
out.
H
I
commend
you
guys
with
what
you're
doing
it's
an
interesting
micro
governance
and
I
liked
jeremy's
analogy
to
a
micro
catalyst.
It's
a
it's
a
beautiful
concept
and
it
allows
more
it's
I
like
it,
because
it
allows
more
direct
development
of
governance
outside
of
catalyst
as
like
a
sub
experiment-
and
I
I
think
that's
cool,
it's
it's
beautiful.
J
Setting
and
saying
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
like
25
to
35
left
on
the
table
in
that
challenge,
setting
because
it
just
didn't,
have
a
lot
of
action
in
it
and
the
idea
was
well
there's
any
funding
for
things
and
incentivizing
of
all
these
little
initiatives
stuff
that
just
sort
of
burn
out
after
a
while
and
maybe
incentivizing
is
the
key
to
getting
some
of
the
stuff
carried
through
all
the
way
and
and
somewhere
along
the
way.
J
I
made
some
templates
for
felix
actually,
and
I
I
I
presented
those
nadia,
and
I
said
you
probably
use
these
to
to
do
this
proposal
and
then
actually
it
was
you
and
it
was
sim
and
scott
who
who
commented
on
that
first
four-page
governance
framework
and
said
you
know
you
just
had
some
some
some
critical
comments
about
it,
and
I
thought
you
know
what
they're
right.
This
probably
isn't
going
to
work
like
that.
But
I'll
get
to
it.
J
But
later
you
know
and
when
I
finally
did
get
back
to
it,
I
was
like
oh,
my
gosh
there's
so
much.
That
really
needs
to
be
done
here
to
answer
the
simplest
questions
and
it
just
grew
from
there
and
after
a
while,
you
realize
hey
we're
playing
with
government,
so
so
yeah,
I'm
excited
about
that
part
of
it
too.
That's
just
this
little
sandbox
that
we
can
practice
in
practice
all
sorts
of
things.
Even
the
tips
protocol,
which
is
a
mirror
image
of
sips,
is
a
way
to
practice.
J
Cardano,
improvement
proposals
and,
if
there's
just
not
there's
some
risk
around
it,
there's
probably
cash
that
could
get
lost
in
the
wash,
but
it's
not
damaging
to
a
16
million
dollar
fund.
B
It's
also
great
teaching
like
what
I
have
learned
in
the
beginning.
It
was
I
just
it
took
so
much
for
me
to
and
I'm
still
trying
still
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
pretty
much
most
of
everything
all
the
time,
but
it's
a
great
it's
a
great
learning
and
teaching.
I
mean
it's
such
a
it's
such
a
it's,
an
accessible
way
for
people
to
get
involved
and
to
start
to
understand
this
and
the
more
it's
one
of
those
things
too.
B
B
So
when
you
go
through
something
like
this-
and
I
think
for
the
for
the
community
here
and
now,
especially
based
on
the
suggestion,
jeremy,
that
that
we
have
it
available
for
other
groups
as
they
come
in,
you
get
people
able
to
like
educate
themselves
and
understand
more
deeply
and
actually
practice
it,
which
is
probably
the
best
teacher
in
a
in
a
very
in
a
very
like
practical
initial
way.
So
it's
really
it's
really
fun
and
I'm
I'm
very
blessed.
B
I
feel
like
we're
very
happy
to
be
part
of
the
part
of
the
process
of
it,
even
just
in
the
well
I've
been
able
to
play.
So
these
conversations
are
really
fantastic
and
it's
wonderful
too,
to
see
it
marry
with
the
operational
stuff
as
well.
So.
J
And
that's
the
key:
isn't
it
that
in
the
end,
what
we
want
are
good
operations.
What
we
want
from
all
of
this
is
the
ability
from
from
cardano
itself
from
an
economic
engine.
We
want
the
ability
to
make
decisions
without
having
a
whole
bunch
of
risk
occurring
around
it
without
having
a
whole
bunch
of
middlemen,
of
non
value,
taking
something
and
making
it
so
that
we
can't
forecast
what
the
end
result
is
going
to
be,
because
we
don't
know
how
big
of
a
piece
of
the
puzzle
they're
going
to
take
for
themselves.
J
E
I
don't
know
if
this
is
even
possible,
but
do
you
guys
do
the
drip
drops
you
have
you
done
that
where
you
going
you
buy
these
is
it
possible?
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
closed
system
or
if
we
could
create
a
couple
of
drops
for
the
community
to
feed
this
treasury
and
just
put
them
in
there
and
encourage
people
to.
H
E
Well,
every
time
I
go
to
do
a
drip
right,
it
puts
down
all
these
tokens
and
starts
to
put
new
tokens
in
it.
So
it
cost
me,
I
don't
know
just
a
fraction
of
an
a
to
to
buy
one,
but
can
we
put
in?
I
don't
know
how
that
system
works.
Is
it
possible
to
put
into
a
looking
for
this
treasury
where
people
like
me
would
go
in
and
buy
it
and
they
would
fund
your
treasury?
E
H
H
E
H
B
I
So
if
any,
if
we're
going
to
use
the
the
whatever
pool
that
are
available
in
certain
times
or
we
give
we
properly
come
up
with
the
voting
and
then
we
have
the
proposal,
put
it
out
there
and
give
certain
money
for
that
and
whoever
come
up
with
the
the
best
idea
and
people
accept
with
that.
And
then
they
got
the
money
for
that.
If,
if
that
would
be
a
possible,
so
just
are
thinking
right.
K
A
May
not
be
a
great
idea,
which
is
what
I
suggested
for
catalyst.
Also
was
that
during
that
ideas
phase
is
that
people
share
ideas
and
they
get
compensated
if
their
idea
is
picked
up
by
a
developer
or
a
team.
But
the
problem
is
that
greed
is
so
deep
that
nobody's
going
to
give
acknowledgement
to
somebody
else's
idea.
They're
gonna
claim
it
as
their
own.
L
B
How
soon
do
you
think
we
need
to
get
this
advisory
administrative
council?
Together
we
have
the
could
we
can.
We
make
a
suggestion
that
this
group
thinks
about
it
for
a
week
and
then
we,
if
we
come
back
together
next
week
and
talk
about
it-
that
since
there's
sort
of
a
rest
week
here,
if
we
come
back,
we
might
come
up
with
some
ideas.
J
Yeah,
that's
a
that's
a
good
question
because
it
doesn't
hurt
to
have
announcements
circulating
and
it's.
The
administrative
group
is
ready
to
form
like
the
charter's
already
written
for
them
and
everything
and
that
a
lot
of
the
work
that's
still
to
come.
They
do
that
work,
so
they
in
a
sense
they
can't
be
formed
soon
enough.
But
if
you're
advertising
to
empty
channels
like
that's
a
wasting
your
time
too
there's
enough
stuff.
That
needs
to
be
done
and
to
do
that.
J
So
I'm
not
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
the
approach
should
be
marketing
the
idea.
Yeah
is
definitely
not
a
strength
of
mine.
I
don't
really
know
how
that
should
be
approached,
but
I
would
say
the
sooner
the
better.
I
guess,
because
it
is
ready
for
them.
B
Maybe
it
should
come
from
me
as
as
the
as
the
rep
and
that
we
you
know
we
we
make
it
pretty
clear
and
we
start
there
and
we
just
put
out
and
see
what
we
get
and
we
let
people
like
understand
what
they
have
to
in
order
to
apply.
They
have
to
like
understand
the
criteria,
and
maybe
we
have
them
join
together
on
a
call
at
a
proposed
time.
Kind
of,
like
the
proof
of
life,
calls
we
get
like.
We
have
two
or
three
options
that
people
can
join
and
learn
about
it.
G
B
J
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
I
think,
drumming
up
some
interest
and
having
some
meetings
like
this,
where
people
just
go
up
to
ask
questions
and
talk
about
it,
because,
no
matter
how
clear
we
make
it,
this
is
something
I've
learned
in
the
hard
way.
J
There's
still
gonna
be
questions
we
can't
anticipate
until
we
hear
them
and
some
of
them
you're
gonna
hear
me
be
like.
Oh
my
god,
that's
so
obvious.
Why
didn't
I
think
of
that.
A
G
B
Yeah,
that's
that's
another
question
too.
We
to
figure
out
so
the
treasury
team,
six
people,
five
or
six
people
and
they
have
specific
their
so
they're
governed
by
and
their
their
job,
is
to
make
sure
that
the
framework
is
carried
out
for
the
treasury.
It's
a
six
month
term.
It's
incentivized,
I
think
we
made
we
made
it
like
500
ish
for
that
period
of
time
and
then
no
it's
per.
What
was
it
during
the
200
total?
So
is
it
50
per
person?
For
that
time,
I
can't
remember
now:
it's
crosstalk.
B
It's
in
the
thing
here,
but
I'll
look
it
up
here.
Real
fast
500
request
is
fun,
so
yeah
500
is
requested
to
fund
the
activities
required
of
the
treasury
admin
team
at
a
rate
of
100
per
treasury
admin
team
member
for
a
term
of
six
months
for
five
team
members.
So
it's
a
hundred
dollar
stipend
for
that
six
month
term
so,
and
neglect
to
pull
it
out
represent.
H
H
K
H
The
the
charter
you
get
that
link
floating
around
hey
have,
you
know,
maybe
be
involved
in
this-
have
a
couple
meetings,
especially
with
people
like
jeremy,
there
and
yourself
to
just
interested
parties.
You
know
we're
going
to
be
discussing
this
x
date.
Y
time
come
by
get
a
couple
of
those
going
and
just
get
just
like
a
trailer
and
get
some
potential
interest,
and
during
this
time
you
guys
could
be
working
on
how
to
how
would
if
it
came
down
to
an
election
or
some
kind
of
process.
H
B
Sound
of
that,
we
could
also
really
leave
it
to
the
community.
You
know
I
mean
if
there's
seven
or
eight
people
or
ten
people
or
however
many
I
mean
it
could
sort
of
be
like
how
do
you
guys
want
to
figure
this
out?
I
mean
that
might
be
interesting
as
a
beginning
thing
too,
but
I
think
we
can.
I
think
I
think
you
guys
are
right.
I
think
the
marketing
and
the
generation
of
interest
first
and
then
we'll
have
time
as
we
go.
B
D
Be
careful
about
that
together
and
then
I
think
we
can
post
it
this
way.
Yeah,
maybe
it'll
be
nice
to
post
it
this
week
since
there's
not
as
much
going
on.
J
And
scott,
I
think
in
the
server
admin
channels,
I'll
probably
post
a
suggestion
for
a
channel
layout,
which
we
may
want
to
introduce
iteratively
like
an
initial
discussion
channel,
but
also
be
able,
because
it'll
need
to
expand
at
some
point.
Because
when
proposals
are
made,
the
idea
is
they
will
have
dedicated
space
to
talk
about
their
ideas.
A
If
people
want
to
look
at
it,
so
I
would
suggest
like
the
same
thing
I
suggested
to
challenge
team.
Is
that
proposals
get
a
thread,
carry
out
your
communications
in
a
thread
once
that
proposal
is
dead,
then
that
thread
just
archives
and
that's
it
but
yeah
I'll
I'll,
think
about
it.
Some
more
see
how
we
can
make
it
as
easy
as
making
it
as
convenient
and
navigable
as
possible
without
cluttering
up
the
server.
B
Okay,
so
I
wrote
that
down
in
our
little
agenda
thingy
here
in
our
notes,
one
more.
Maybe
we
can
hit
this
last
one
before
we're
done.
What
was
it
again?
We
did
the
circle
up,
oh
migrations
of
community
suggestions
to
working
groups
boards.
B
The
next
step
is
to
start
to
migrate
them
onto
the
working
groups.
Boards,
I'm
wondering
so
I
have
I
sort
of
have
a
way
that
I
think
that
this
could
go,
but
I
would
rather
hear
other
people's
ideas
first
about
like
how
what
what
you
think
about
the
migration
of
these
community
suggestions
onto
the
working
groups,
boards
and
the
formation
of
groups
around
them.
L
A
That
go
ahead.
The
only
comment
I
have
is
is
the
process
in
which
they
are
migrated.
That's
it
as
far
as
what
guides
their
what
what
guidelines
are
used
to
migrate
them
like
when
do
they
get
migrated?
Who
migrates
them?
That's
I
mean
I'm
open
to
discussion
on
that,
but
it's
the
process
of
migrating,
then
that's
the
that
has
to
be
followed
to
a
t,
or
else
there
is
no
archiving,
and
but
I
mean
I
would
suggest
that
we
come
up
with,
like
my
suggestion.
A
A
You
know
so
it's
just
once
they
hit
my
suggestion
would
be
once
they
hit
a
certain
threshold
of
votes,
then
they
are
moved
to
their
respective
working
groups
to
that
to
do
that
that
not
moved
they
are
copied
recreated.
Let
me
use
that
phrase
recreated
in
the
working
groups
to
do
for
columns.
A
Since
they
have
been
migrated
to
another
server,
I'm
sorry
another
project
board.
A
So
I'll
go
back
through
that
again,
certain
threshold
number
of
votes
is
met,
say
20,
whatever
it
happens
to
be
whatever
come
up
with.
At
that
point,
the
community
steward
will
duplicate.
Not
let
me
rephrase
that
they
will
recreate
that
task
on
the
respective
working
groups,
project
board
in
the
to
do
section
and
all
that's
in
that
pdf
document
and
then
once
it
is
recreated
in
that
in
that
to
do
section
for
that
working
report,
the
one
that's
in
the
community
suggestion
board
will
be
the
status.
A
A
A
A
So
if
it's
there
for
a
year,
maybe
it's
not
touched,
but
maybe
somebody
a
year
down
the
road
notices
the
same
issue
and
maybe
there
maybe
they
want
to
push
that
issue
a
little
more.
So
I
I
don't
I
mean
you.
Could
you
could
put
a
time
how
long
you
could
put
a
timeout
on
if
you
want
to,
but
I
think
you'll
end
up
duplicating
some
issues
if
you
put
a
timeout
on
it
depending
upon
right,
depending
upon
the.
J
J
Part
of
it,
because
you're
going
to
solve
some
of
those
top
issues
and
bottom
issues
are
going
to
become
irrelevant
when
that
happens,
and
we
just
we're
not
seeing
those
connections
yet
because
it's
still
spread
out
and
there's
so
few
actual
nodes
processing.
This
data-
I
mean
you
know
it
was
on
my
list
to
do
it.
I
just
ran
out
of
time,
but
I
wanted
to
go
through
and
see
what
how
they
were
all
connected
like
take
notes
on
all
of
them
and
just
see
what
are
all
the
connections
between
these
things.
J
We
vaguely
have
them
connected
up
by
working
group,
but
even
there
it
gets
confusing
fast
because
they
transcend
the
working
groups
that
they
sit
in
with
their
ability
to
affect
multiple
roles:
multiple
parties,
all
that
kind
of
thing
so.
K
H
I
was
thinking
of
like,
like
certain
things
like
that
I've
seen
on
the
circle
for
like
a
listening
culture
in
in
catalyst
and
and
and
joey's
joey's
newly
picked
up,
bots
and
anti-spam
on
social
media
like
like
these
things
are
going
to
be
around
for
like
ever
and
like
just
they
just
kind
of
sit
and
they
they
there's.
Some
of
them
are
going
to
especially
community
suggestions
open
to
community
you're,
going
to
get
a
lot
of
vague
things
that
that
sit
there.
A
Well,
there's
also
a
backlog
I
mean
it
could
you
could
like
there
could
be
a
backlog
column,
that's
put
in
there
for
them
to
go
to
instead
of
just
deleting
them.
I
mean
that's
also
an
option,
I'm
just
throwing
out
there
as
an
option.
I'm
fine
either
way
like
the
less
clutter,
the
better.
I
feel,
but
I
mean
that's,
that's
me
so.
J
A
B
B
Here's
these
problems,
here's
someone
needs
help
with
this,
and
I
also
think
it
does
make
sense
for
the
moderator
and
the
steward
to
be
the
same
person
like
if,
if
you're
responsible
in
discord
for
like
joey,
for
example,
could
be
tool
makers
and
maintainers.
If
there's
a
rep,
I
don't
think
it
should
be
the
rep
of
a
certain
group.
It's
just.
I
think
there
should
be
definitely
separation
there.
But
let's
say,
for
example,
like
tool
makers
and
maintainers
right.
B
Those
hole,
makers
or
maintainers
will
have
this
area
within
discord
and
they'll
also
have
the
dwork
working
group
and
have
someone
look
at
those
and
see
those
two
those
two
spaces
and
make
sure
that
they're
maintained
a
steward
sort
of
has
the
look
over
the
umbrella,
whereas
a
champion
is
like,
for
example,
the
word
the
steward
is
the
is
to
the
working
group
and
then,
like
allison,
for
example,
would
be
the
champion
of
the
ca
onboarding
problem
on
which
is
one
of
project.
B
Is
that
to
use
the
d-work
term
but
problem
priorities,
problem
board
in
in
d-work,
so
the
sub-circle
that
forms
around
a
group
has
a
champion
that
is
working
on
that
initiative
until
it
closes
and
then
disbands
and
then
maybe
a
new
thing
forms,
but
the
steward
would
stay
for.
I
think,
a
term
because
they
are
doing
something
very
specific.
That's
that
is
term
related
and
not
project
start
to
completion
related.
H
B
Definitely
it's.
I
think
that
the
I'm
thinking
kind
of
like
every
one
of
those
projects
here,
so
here's
how
I
was
originally
thinking
about
it
from
how
we
from
how
we
started-
and
I
love
this
conversation
because
we're
all
thinking
about
it
a
little
differently.
I
think
that's
fantastic.
B
I
was
thinking
that,
in
order
for
something
to
move
from
the
community
suggestions
onto
the
working
group
board,
it
would
require
someone
who's
willing
to
champion
it
and
a
and
that
rubric
to
be
completed
those
questions
so
that
things
that
things
were
framed
and
composed
once
they
get
up
there,
there's
a
sense
of
ownership
from
of
the
community
of
that
issue.
Not
it
got
up
there
because
there
was
a
lot
of
people
who
think
it's
a
good
idea
right.
B
So
we're
actually
going
to
work
on
this
thing
if
it's
in
the
working
group,
whereas
lots
of
things
could
be
very
popular
in
community
suggestions
but
until
someone
picks
it
up
so
that
right
now
for
me,
as
this
thing
is
new,
is
the
gap
as
we
have
this
initiative.
Subcircle
are
those
some
of
those
people
who
who
put
forth
a
lot
of
enthusiasm
around
different
topics.
Are
some
of
those
people
going
to
pick
that
topic
up
and
run
with
them?
B
Another
way
we
could
think
about
it
is
there
could
be
a
sub
circle
around
the
working
group
and
once
things
are
moved
up
there,
they
it
is
for
them
to
move
something
across
the
board
and
they
are
more
of
like
an
advisor
or
an
incentivized
position
that
actually
has
the
task
of
doing
that.
That's
a
little
more.
B
H
H
I
understand
what
you're
saying
nothing's
gonna
get
done,
especially
because
we're
decentralized
bro,
like
nothing's
gonna,
get
done
unless
someone
steps
up
to
do
the
job,
but
especially
now
that
you
guys
have
governance
framework
and
treasury
funding
like
there's
some
there's
some
point
in
there,
where
it's
not
just
like
hey.
Does
anybody
want
to
do
this?
It's
like
hey.
Does
anybody
want
to
do
this?
The
community
thinks
it's
important,
hey
and
there's
this
job
with
these
funds
tied
to
them.
H
We're
offering
you
a
like
a
temporary
contract
position
like
there's
something
there's
somebody
that
could
be
setting
this
thing
up.
I
don't
know
exactly
where
that
comes
in
the
whole
structure,
but
it's
not
quite
like
either
you
volunteer,
or
this
is
going
to
die
like
there
can
be
someone
that
sets
up
an
incentive
is
incentivized
thing.
B
A
H
Thing
like
if
it
gets
picked
up
right
away
from
a
go-getter,
that's
really
bent
on
getting
it
done,
then
cool.
But
if
you
have
something
that
a
lot
of
people
are
expressing
interest
in
over
a
long
period
of
time
and
and
there's
still
no
movement
on
it
or
maybe
there's
something
like
a
lack
of
technical
expertise
or
something
to
get
something
done
if
something's
highly
interesting
to
the
community,
but
still
not
getting
done,
I
think
that
would
be
the
time
to
bring
up
incentivization.
H
But
I
agree
with
your
ratio.
You
don't
also
want
to
to
bring
in
that
kind
of
constant
cheddar
cheese
for
the
rat
and
the
maize
kind
of
thing,
like
there's
a
lot
of
good
things
that
have
been
done
just
built
off
of
community
goodwill
and
and
people's
motivations,
so
yeah.
I
agree.
B
B
I
think
that
that
is
a
prerequisite
in
my
book
for
it
to
end
up
on
the
working
group
board,
and
I
think
that
unless
you're
willing
to
find
someone
who's
willing
to
do
unless
you're,
finding
someone
who's
able
and
willing
to
do
that,
it's
questionable
as
to
whether
that
thing
is
going
to
actually
get
done.
But
then
there
are
things
also
that
need
and
must
get
done
like
this.
Vca
process
needs
attention
of
the
vcas.
B
C
B
A
You
were
talking
about
the
rubric
like
there's
some
vague.
You
know
that's
kind
of
like
the
good
thing
about
the
d-word,
the
discord
integration
with
d-work,
because
you
can
look
up
who
it
is
that
submitted
that
well
for
some
of
them,
I
guess
most
of
them
have
your
name
on
it.
Nadia,
so
yeah.
A
Yeah
and
jeremy
and
then
there's
some
other
ones,
but
I
mean,
as
the
community
starts,
to
use
it
more
and
more.
Somebody
put
something
vague.
I
mean
that's
a
good
thing
about
discord
integration.
You
can
always
go
back
and
look
at
who
who
submitted
and
then
touch
base
with
them,
just
reach
out
to
them
and
say:
hey.
What's
up.
B
J
Yeah
yeah,
that's
exactly
that's
exactly
where
I
was
where
I
was
going
to
come
in
with
this.
Is
the
initiative?
Sub-Circle
sounds
like
the
steward
they're
people
who
have
been
have
a
little
bit
of
experience
with
the
work
they're
going
to
know
where
things
are
supposed
to
be
and
they're
going
to
be
familiar
with
whatever
arcane
process
is
required
to
get
that
archiving,
because
if
it
doesn't
go
through
that
process,
I
don't
know
how
we
fixed
that
I
mean
I
suppose
it
could
be
fixed,
but
I
think
scott
won't
get
any
sleep.
J
J
Sub-Circle
will
move
it
and
their
process
will
be
applying
the
rubric
clarifying
it
and
turning
it
into
an
actionable
thing,
and
at
that
point,
can
it
exist
as
a
task
now
at
that
point
without
its
champion
yet,
and
the
idea
being
that
you
market
that
idea
and
say
here
is
something
very
important:
that's
high
on
the
list
of
priorities,
but
by
the
community
to
get
it
done
see
that
voting
thing
has
always
been
kind
of
interesting
because,
like
you
know
with
before
this
whole
process
even
got
under
away
somebody
grabbed
that
rewards
calculator
and
started
working
on
it
right
right
and
then
there
was
and
like
I'm
looking
at
like
the
vca,
the
workload
thing
which
I
put
in
there
and
I
personally
like
wanted
to
everything
else.
J
K
J
If,
for
another
reason,
just
figure
out
what
the
heck
it
is,
so
the
votes
are
kind
of
disconnected
from
the
enthusiasm.
J
J
J
Move
forward,
a
three
would
be
I'm
neutral
on
the
idea.
A
four
would
be
I
I
agree
with
it
and
I
would
like
to
see
it
move
forward
and
a
five
is
not
only
do
I
want
to
see
it
forward.
I
want
to
work
on
this
and
so
you're
you're,
not
just
getting
stronger
like
almost
like
a
quadratic
kind
of
function
there,
where
the
more
enthusiasm
there
is
for
something,
the
more
votes
it's
getting,
because
one
vote
counts
as
five
but
you're
also
getting
people
you'd
have
to
know
how
to
voted
and
it's.
K
J
And
you
would
get
this
list
of
people
who
would
be
you'd
approach
him
and
say:
hey?
Are
you
ready
to
do
this
because
it's
been
moved
to
the
task
board
and
it's
ready
to
go?
We
could
introduce
a
voting
scheme
like
that
once
you've
moved
it
to
the
working
group
and
say
who
wants
to
vote
on
this
idea.
A
I
was
just
gonna
say
sorry,
I
wasn't
trying
to
interrupt
you
dude.
I
thought
you
had
stopped
like
you
can
do
it's
not
secure,
so
to
speak,
like
there's
no
credential,
but
you
can
do
a
poll.
A
B
B
If
you
start
the,
I
realize
you
were
you
awesome
if
you
start
the
work,
if
you
start
that
under
the
channel
yeah,
if
you
start
that
channel,
then
you
could
feasibly
tag
those
people
in
there
and
say:
hey
everyone.
This
is
officially
moved
up.
You
voted
on
it.
So
is
anyone
interested
you
know?
B
B
Maybe
this
is
like
we.
We
evolve
this
a
little
more
down
the
road,
but
I
think
that
the
use
of
the
the
use
of
the
the
votes
and
upvotes
as
a
recruitment
part
to
actually
work
on
it.
An
awareness
generating
piece
could
be
really
strong.
B
So
I'm
what
I'm
hearing
you
say
is
that
we
could
come
back
to
the
initiative,
subcircle
and
say
hey
it's
time
to
move
some
of
these
highly
voted
ones
up
onto
the
working
group
board.
B
Who
can
help
do
this
right
now
and
are
there
any
that
you're
interested
in
yourselves
and
if
you
know
number
one,
can
you
help
here's
the
criteria
and,
what's
expected
and
in
order
that
they
get
added
and
number
two?
Are
you
interested
in
championing
any
of
these,
and,
if
not,
are
you
interested?
Would
you
will
you
be
willing
to
post
them
so
that
we
can
start
to
generate
support.
J
Yeah
that
feels
like
yeah,
that
feels
like
an
operations
that
we
could
follow
through
on
because
we
know
the
initiatives.
Sub-Circle
are
engaged
already,
it's
like
everybody
here
and
then
it's
you
know,
tommy
was
in
there.
Victor
was
in
there.
Vladimir
was
in
there.
There's
plenty
of
people
in
there
and
the
idea
would
be
lots
of
people
might
do
lots
of
things
in
that
initial
sub-circle.
I
love
the
idea
of
the
sub,
so
that
particular
sub-circle
being
in
and
out
people
show
up
people
leave
people
show
up
people
leave,
that's
that's
a
good
model.
G
B
Okay,
all
right,
so
that's
great,
so
I
will
just
take
I'll
just
take
as
a
beginning,
like
steven
see
what
what
steven's
formulating
with
this
governance
oversight
is
a
little
more
involved,
I
think,
than
what
we
need
for
the
dwork
board.
I
think
we
just
say
those
four
questions.
Is
there
a
champion
for
this?
Yet
who
are
the
members
who
want
to
be
involved
in
solving
this
problem?
B
So
there's
some
sense
of
like
who's
working
on
it
actively
and
that
can
just
be
the
basic
the
beginning
and
then
number
of
votes
it
received
number
of
uploads.
It
received
that
kind
of
like
just
chronicling,
and
we
go
from
there.
B
And
then
we
let
them
we
let
them
post
it
and
say:
okay,
you
know
over.
We
I'll
do
an
announcement.
How
about
that?
Does
that
make
sense?
Scott
I'll
say
like
okay?
In
the
coming
week,
we've
we've
taken
these
upvoted
community
suggestions,
they're
going
to
be
on
the
board.
B
The
working
group
board
and
you'll
see
some
of
the
initiative.
Subcircle
members
posting
to
see
what
you'd
like
to
be
involved
in
for
the
coming
fund.
Here's
how
you
can
respond
kind
of
a
thing.
A
B
B
J
J
C
K
A
Yeah,
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
roles
can
be
adjusted
like
I
mean,
as
far
as
their
names,
their
naming
schema.
Whatever
have
you
like
all
that
can
be
adjusted
names
of
the
groups
names
of
the
channels,
like
all
that
can
be
adjusted
as
long
as
it's
pretty
much
the
same.
You
know
whatever
is
needed
and
that
that
you
know
I
don't
know
who
I
sent
it.
Maybe
it
was
to
nadia,
or
maybe
it
was
in
some
other
group,
but
there
needs
to
be
a
lot
of
thought
and
effort
put
into
what
roles.
B
So
I
think
maybe
we
could
start
to
wrap
some
of
this
and
and
I'll
start
to
just
put
forth
what
I
have
in
this
agenda
here,
not
agenda
but
review
sheet
kind
of
thing
that
I'm
doing
and.
B
B
We
talked
about
expanding
into
pulling
the
subcircle
hub,
we're
going
to
first
try
to
onboard
the
new
users
and
champions
then,
where
scott
we're
going
to
take
your
pdf,
make
either
short
videos
or
just
make
it
real
digestible
update
the
role
section
to
declutter
for
the
users
update
the
server
guide.
Consider
the
moderator
for
each
working
group
function,
channel
gardening
message,
pinning
important
information,
etc
steward
for
the
dwork
boards
might
be
the
same
person
to
maintain
and
accept
framework
and
support
accountability.
B
Community
suggestions
board
could
serve
the
entire
working
group
environment
so
we're
going
to
corral
some
of
the
meetings
for
new
steward,
onboarding
and
and
working
group
setup.
So
I'm
going
to
take
that
and
then,
as
a
collective,
those
people
will
help
finalize
the
guidelines
and
process
finalize
the
user
guide
rails
for
the
community
and
update
the
server
accordingly,
I
didn't
put
a
lot.
B
B
Yeah
so
we'll
have
two
meeting
opportunities
available
for
discussion.
These
can
actually
be
before
june
1st,
but
I'll
also
do
a
circle
slide
soon.
First
and
then
we'll
have
a
decision
made
about
how
to
onboard
or
how
to
select
an
on
board.
B
Okay
and
for
the
initiative
subcircle
we're
to
develop
we're
going
to
develop
criteria
for
improving
and
adding
to
the
to
the
board.
Then
we're
going
to
have
the
wow.
My
brains
slowed
way
down
initiative,
sub
circle.
Add
them,
then
we'll
make
an
appointment,
make
an
announcement
that
that's
happening.
A
B
C
B
It
is,
and
now
I'm
at
four
brains
about
today,
my
brain's
about
to
die.
Now
it's
a
three
percent:
okay,.