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A
April
10th
2002
2023
town
of
Cave,
Creek
Arizona,
regular
Town
council
meeting.
This
meeting
was
delayed
by
about
eight
days
so
that
we
could
finish
up
the
budget
work
and
have
our
first
crack
at
next
year's
budget.
B
B
B
A
Are
we
good
okay
yeah?
It
sounds
like
it's
working
now,
so
the
rough
schedule
is
that
we
have
to
sometime
in
May,
approve
this
and
there's
three
or
four
meetings
between
now
and
then.
This
one
here
is
without
public
comment.
The
meeting
next
week
is
with
on
Thursday
Thursday,
the
13th.
B
A
Okay,
so
with
that,
we
will
do
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
in
South
Locos.
A
D
E
Ditto
it's
this.
This
is
an
invasive
feces
when
the
seeds
have
been
spread,
it's
like
matchsticks
that
are
sticking
up
in
your
yard,
so
hopefully
we
will
avoid
what
we
saw
a
couple
of
years
ago.
E
And
I
would
add
to
that.
If
I
may,
the
the
last
two
fires
that
we
had
I
became
aware
of
what
happened,
and
it
was
people
doing
things
that
they
knew
they
shouldn't
be
doing.
So,
please
think
about
the
what
you're
doing
on
your
property,
because
it
doesn't
take
much
to
start
a
fire
and
they
cause
big
damages.
Okay,
thank
you.
B
The
following
up
on
on
that
issue
with
the
stink
net
there
will
be
two
free
drop-off
opportunities
with
the
county
in
April,
April,
22nd
and
April
29th
to
drop
off
your
brush,
your
green
waste
and
the
last
Saturday
the
town
held
their
last
brush
drop-off
for
this
season.
So
the
these
are
the
next
two,
but
you
go
directly
to
Maricopa
County
on
Carefree
Highway,
3955,
East,
Carefree
Highway,
and
they
are
open
from
7
A.M
to
3
P.M,
the
other.
B
Thank
you.
I
would
like
to
acknowledge
Desert
Foothills
landscape
for
allowing
us
to
borrow
their
chipper,
since
our
chipper
has
been
down
for
both
of
the
rush
off
drop
brush.
Drop-Off
events,
the
Public
Works
crew
will
be
out
starting
their
mowing
cycle
to
on
along
the
major
corridors
in
town
to
take
out
the
weeds
as
well.
This
is
the
season
for
them
to
start
their
mowing
cycle.
B
I.
Think!
That's
all
on
stink
net
I
want
to
remind
everyone
that
tomorrow,
at
5
PM,
there
is
a
ribbon
cutting
ceremony
recognizing
the
acquisition
of
the
30
plus
acres
of
open
space
and
the
event
will
be
out
in
the
spur
cross
parking
lot.
B
And,
lastly,
we
completed
our
ISO
rating.
It's
actually
referred
to
as
their
risk
and
the
town
did
very
well
in
that
rating
process.
We
will
improve
our
grading
from
a
four
and
go
up
to
a
three
pretty
darn
good
it'll
help
us
with
Insurance
ratings,
so
I
think
it's
within
five
miles
of
the
station
right,
so
we'll
improve
their
rating
if
you're
within
five
miles
up
a
fire
station.
So
that's
good
news
for
the
town.
A
Thank
you,
okay.
The
action
item
tonight
is
the
presentation
of
Town
Council,
followed
by
Council
discussion
of
town
of
Cave
Creek
draft
for
the
fiscal
year
2024
budget
presented
by
the
town
manager.
B
Mayor
members
of
council
I'd
like
to
just
give
an
overview
of
how
the
the
work
sessions
are
structured
and
so
initially
we're
going
to
give
some
overview
of
how
the
budget
was
put
together.
What
is
in
it?
B
What
some
assumptions
are
Mitzi
has
a
PowerPoint
kind
of
follow
through
on
that
and
take
any
questions
you
might
have
at
that
time
and
then
we're
going
to
the
the
general
fund
summary
she's,
going
to
go
through
the
revenues
and
the
expenditures
all
of
the
transfers
in
and
out
the
one-time
sources,
the
ending
balance
and
what
that
all
means
and
defines.
So
you
understand
clearly
what
the
fund
balance
is.
What's
in
it,
your
assets
and
your
liabilities
and
and
then
at
the
very
end,
there's
a
section
on
unassigned.
B
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
you
understand
that
detail.
Before
we
go
into
the
general
fund
budgets,
we
will
go
through
each
budget,
one
by
one.
The
directors
are
here,
those
are
available
are
here
and
we
will
give
an
overview
of
each
department.
What
is
in
the
department
budget
and
then
and
then
the
Departments
can
Department
directors
can
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
of
something
more
specific.
If
we
haven't
answered
your
question
and
from
there
we
will
cover
the
special
Revenue
funds.
B
There
are
a
couple
of
capital
projects
did
I,
miss
anything,
and
then
we
go
into
the
Enterprise
funds,
the
Wastewater
Cave
Creek,
Water
and
Desert
Hills
and
then
and
and
each
step
along
the
way
the
council
and
the
staff
can
have
a
dialogue.
We
can
talk
about.
What's
in
there,
things
you'd
like
to
see
in
there-
and
you
know
just
have
a
conversation
about
that,
and
if
you
want
to
make
any
adjustments,
there
seems
to
be
consensus
or
small
things
or
big
things.
B
B
Members
then
can
have
motions
to
amend
the
tenant
at
budget
by
adding
something
or
taking
away.
So
there's
there's
quite
a
a
good
opportunity
to
have
a
discussion
and
make
changes
tonight.
Thursday
from
three
to
one
hour
starts
at
three
o'clock.
This
will
be
on
the
regular
meeting
council
meeting
on
May
1st
as
well.
So
there's
a
third
opportunity
and
all
three
nights.
B
We
have
public
comments
and
then
the
second
meeting
in
May
will
be
when
we
have
a
public
hearing
and
tentative
budget
approval
and
again,
if
there's
anything
left
to
resolve,
that's
when
you
can
have
motions
to
amend
the
budget
to
put
things
in,
take
it
out
and
then
adopt
the
tentative
budget.
The
final
budget
approval
then
comes
by
resolution
in
June.
F
Okay,
so,
good
evening
mayor
vice
mayor
and
Council,
you
were
given
these
11
by
17
printouts
as
part
of
your
Council
packet
and
I
wanted
to
start
by
going
over
some
of
the
formatting
on
these
forms
to
Define
kind
of
what
you're
looking
at
to
ensure
you
guys
understand-
and
everyone
understands
what's
being
presented
on
these
so
and
got
some
of
these
listed
here
for
you
too,
but
in
the
fiscal
year
24
budget,
we
have
broken
out
operating
expenditures
separately
from
the
capital
expenditures.
F
Second,
the
change
column
that's
listed
on
on
the
forms
have
been
broken
out
separately
or
have
been
presented
as
the
difference
between
the
fiscal
year.
23
projected
actuals
and
the
fiscal
year
24
proposed
budget
columns.
That's
what
represents
the
change
I.
A
Typically,
the
way
that
I've
seen
budgeting
in
the
past?
It
just
makes
it
easier.
I
know
what
the
actuals
come
in
and
Arizona
does
it
differently,
but
there's
two
chain
there's
two
things
that
one
of
them
is
the
year
over
year.
What
we're
asking
for
right,
the
other
one
is:
what
did
we
get
versus?
What
did
we?
What
did
we
do
with
it?
Does
that
make
sense
sure.
B
F
We
could
add
that
okay,
so,
but
what's
presented
on
these
forums
here
tonight,
though
I
just
wanted
to
make
clear,
are
the
difference
between
our
estimated
actuals
and
the
fiscal
year.
24
budget
is
what's
shown
in
that
change
column,
and
these
are
different.
I
had
had
that
in
my
notes.
Here
too,
these
were
different
than
what
we've
done
in
the
past,
because
in
the
past
it's
been
budget
to
budget.
So
right.
C
A
A
C
F
Yeah
and
you,
you
will
also
want
to
see
the
percentage
change
then
too
right.
So
two,
two
more
columns.
Basically,
okay.
Yes,
we
can
I'll
make
a
note,
and
we
can
add
that
add
that
in
the
the
next
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out,
then
is
the
percentage
change
column,
which
is
the
the
final
column
on
on
the
budget.
Forms
is
the
difference
then,
between
it
takes
the
change
the
amount
of
the
change
divided
by
the
fiscal
year,
23
projected
actual
column,
and
that's
how
you
determine
the
percentage
change.
F
That's
been
noted
in
the
heading
it's
shown
up
here
on
the
slide
in
the
green
boxes,
and
then
the
final
formatting
change
or
presentation
up
here
is
the
23
24
proposed
call
proposed
budget
column
has
been
highlighted
in
gray
to
for
for
easy
reference
for
you
guys,
so
you
can
see
what
it
is
that
we're
we're
referring
to.
F
Behind
the
detailed
budget
is
several
summary
tables
that
will
be
shown
for
you,
the
first
one
that
will
be
reflected
under
there
is
an
expenditure
by
use
which
will
show
just
a
summary
for
each
department
in
the
total
Personnel
costs,
contracts
and
services.
Commodities
then
you'll
have
your
total
operating
expenses
shown
you'll
have
a
total
for
Capital
and
then
the
bottom
Gray
Line
is
the
total
for
the
department
and
you'll
see
the
same
column.
Those
totals
for
the
same
column
headings
shown
there.
F
The
next
summary
table
is
a
capital
expenditure
by
project
table.
This
summary
table
reflects
the
fiscal
year
24
capital
projects
that
have
been
identified
in
the
budget
for
appropriation
and
that
total
the
total
it'll
show
the
different
project,
titles
and
the
amount
for
each
project,
and
the
total
of
that
table
agrees
to
the
will
agree
to
the
capital
expenditure
section
in
the
department
budget.
F
The
next
summary
table
is
an
authorized
position
table
and
it
shows
for
each
department
on
the
left,
the
positions
for
each
department,
and
then
it's
got
the
fiscal
years
across
on
the
top.
But
the
the
final
column
on
the
right
is
where
we
are
for
fiscal
year.
24.
H
A
Was
tracking
the
positions
and
and
like
we
had
four
tenths
of
a
person
working
for
Kerry,
that's
no
longer
working
for
Kerry.
So
just
where
did
that
person
go
according
to
go
away.
B
F
And
then
for
each
fund
there
is
also
a
fun
summary
table
that
is
presented
and
it
shows
the
revenues,
expenditures
and
beginning
in
any
fund
balance
for
each
of
the
funds,
so
we'll
be
running
through
those
summaries
as
well.
F
And
then,
at
the
very
back
of
your
packet,
you
will
find
the
capital
project
by
funding
source
Pages
for
the
fiscal
year
24
through
28
Capital
Improvement
program.
That's
been
included
for
your
reference.
The
fiscal
year
2024
project
column
of
our
CIP
plan
has
been
included
in
this
proposed
budget.
That's
in
front
of
you
today
for
the
Departments.
F
Okay,
any
questions
on
the
formatting
comments.
Okay,
so
the
next
thing
that
I
wanted
to
cover
is
the
town's
Financial
policies.
F
The
financial
policy
one
requires
a
contingency
to
provide
necessary
cash
for
emergencies
and
or
unanticipated
expenses,
and,
if
not
used,
we'll
maintain
a
minimum
cash
or
fund
balance
for
the
next
fiscal
year.
This
contingency
is
required
for
the
general
fund
per
fund
and
the
Wastewater
fund.
F
The
general
fund
requires
a
contingency
of
10
percent
of
the
sales
taxes
and
state
shared
revenues.
Herf
is
10
of
the
state
shared
revenues
that
it
receives,
and
the
Wastewater
fund
is
10
of
the
state
tax
and
state
shared
revenues
that
the
Wastewater
fund
receives
a
contingency
amount
was
not
designated
in
the
Wastewater
fund
for
fiscal
year
24
when
we
get
there
you'll
see
that
and
we
did
not
designate
a
contingency
for
that
fund
this
year,
because
a
transfer
was
required.
It
was
in
the
red.
F
F
The
town
Financial
policy
number
two
requires
for
the
general
fund
to
maintain
a
three-month
operating
three
months
of
operating
expenditures
as
a
reserve.
That
is
not
restricted
in
any
way
for
any
other
purpose.
It's
for
fiscal
year
24.
The
amount
in
the
general
fund
that
has
been
designated
for
this
operating
Reserve
is
two
million
593
203
and
we'll
see
that
when
we
go
through
the
general
fund,
summary
I'll
point
that
out
any
questions
on
either
the
financial
policies
that
we
have.
F
Okay,
so
we're
going
to
move
into
the
general
fund
and
I
guess:
I
will
start
by
just
defining
what
the
general
fund
is
for
everybody,
but
it
is
the
general
operating
fund
of
the
town
and
it
accounts
for
all
Financial
Resources,
except
those
required
to
be
accounted
for
in
the
other
funds.
So,
specifically,
Enterprise
funds
are
accounted
for
separately.
The
revenues
and
expenditures
for
those
funds
are
maintained
in
their
individual
funds
themselves.
F
F
And
we're
going
to
first
start
by
going
through
the
general
fund
summary,
which
was
the
first
11
by
17
Page
in
your
your
your
handout,
your
packet
and
I,
wanted
to
start
by
running
through.
F
The
format
of
the
summary
here,
so
we
start
here
with
the
operating
revenues
of
the
town,
which
include
local
taxes,
local
fees,
State,
shared
revenues,
miscellaneous
revenues,
the
fiscal
year,
22
column,
that's
the
first
one
shown
shows
our
actuals,
where
we
actually
ended
up
for
fiscal
year
2022.
F
These
are
audited
numbers
audited
by
our
external
Auditors,
and
the
next
column
is
the
fiscal
year
23
budget,
and
then
we've
got
actuals
when
we
started
where
we
were
when
we
started
putting
the
budget
together
at
the
end
of
January
of
23,
the
next
column
would
be
projected
actuals
next
column
is
our
proposed
budget
and
then
our
change
in
percent
change.
Columns
at
the
end.
So
we'll
I'll
walk
you
through
here,
just
the
setup
first,
but
operating
revenues
are
again
our
local
taxes,
local
fees,
State
shared
revenue
and
any
miscellaneous
Revenue.
F
The
next
set
of
area
there
is
operating
expenditures
by
Department.
This
reflects
in
total,
what
our
expenditures
are
for:
Town
manager,
Administration,
Legal,
Services
development
services,
court,
public
safety,
law
enforcement,
Public
Safety
fire
and
emergency
Finance,
Town,
Council,
Public,
Works
and
special
events.
Those
departments
are
our
general
fund
departments.
A
See
I
I
have
a
question
right
right.
Let's
start
there,
the
the
local
tax
we
underestimated
last
year
by
six,
maybe
eight
percent,
something
like
that
or
eight
percent
higher
than
we
have
for
I.
Believe
I
saw
somewhere
on
the
revenues
that
there
that
just
made
only
a
one
percent
increase
in
local
sales
tax,
the
general
economies,
increasing
inflation
is
six
to
ten
percent,
that
food
is
10
and
we
have
a
lot
of
food
revenues
coming
in.
A
So
why
is
the
one
percent,
rather
than
six
eight
or
ten
percent
estimated
revenue
from
sales
taxes.
F
We
we
estimated
the
one
percent
increase
based
off
the
fiscal
year.
What
we
projected
our
actuals
to
be
at
the
end
of
the
year,
not
off
of
the
proposed
budget
from
last
year,
I
mean
I
know
you
said
we,
we
didn't
meet
our
Target,
but
we
estimated
that
increased
on
where
we
actually
end
up
expecting
to
end
up
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
and
on
revenues.
F
A
A
Well
tell
me
what
the
advantage
is
in
what
I
perceive,
as
maybe
an
underestimation,
why?
Why
does?
Why?
Does
that?
Why
is
that
a
good
policy
to
have
it
so
unusually
low.
F
The
the
revenues
you
mean,
yeah
yeah.
A
F
For
operating
revenues,
this
is
where
we
are
I
mean
based
on
our
conservative
approach.
That's
just
where
we
estimated
that
coming
ending
at.
B
Look
just
a
little
bit
of
History.
We
used
to
estimate
based
on
the
budget
budget
because
it
always
came
in
higher
than
the
budget.
So
you
would
estimate
at
like
say.
10
percent
of
of
the
current
Year's
budget
would
be
next
year's,
but
then
what?
Whatever
that
percentage?
I
couldn't
tell
you
off
the
top
of
my
head,
what
it
was,
but
instead
of
estimating
from
the
budgeted
number
it's
it's
a
truer
number
by
estimating
from
our
projected
actuals.
A
B
I
understand
very
common
from
now
sorry
mayor.
We
do
not
budget
for
estimated
revenues
from
future
businesses
that
have
not
opened
once,
for
example,
Sprouts
opened
in
February
of
the
whatever
year
it
was
two
years
ago
three
years
ago.
We
do
not
include
revenues
from
future
sources,
even
though
we
know
they're
under
construction.
We
don't
put
them
in
the
budget
we,
so
those
are
extra
at
some
point:
we're
not
going
to
have
new
revenues.
B
A
That's
part
of
it.
We,
you
have
projected
actual
and
7.8
million
dollars
and
you're
you're,
going
to
7.9
million
what
inflation's
been
six
to
ten
percent
I
I,
just
don't
I
I,
just
I'm
trying
to
find
a
reason
to
do
it
that
forgetting
about
the
new
businesses.
So
that's
that's
fine,
that's
another!
Even
another
conservative
Factor,
but
just
the
businesses
that
were
open
that
are
in
the
projected
actuals.
We
see
right
here.
B
A
A
F
H
A
Okay,
I
think
we
ought
to
take
a
look
at
that
I
think
that's
too
low
I
think
it
if
I'm
reading
this
right,
we're
talking
about
pulling
down
3.1
million
dollar
at
the
bottom
down
there
general
fund,
that's
a
lot
of
money
and
I
I'd
rather
be
be
accurate
in
this
myself,
because
we
have,
we
have
needs
in
town
that
need
to
be
funded.
C
F
E
Are
other
towns
using
similarly
low
numbers?
You
know.
F
I
I
don't
know
specifically
because
a
lot
of
those
haven't
been
published
yet
but
yeah,
that
is
the
The
General
trend.
A
Now
we
also
have
about
20
million
dollars
in
the
bank,
how
much
of
that
20
million
dollars
is
accessible.
The
amount
that
is
not
encumbered
by
being
held
held
back
for
the
whiff
of
funds
with
the
loans.
A
F
There
is,
we
do
have
fund
balance
on
unrestricted
fund
balance
that
is
available
to
be
to
be
used.
I
mean
the
town
is
in
a
healthy
Financial
State.
F
Okay,
so
back
to
the
general
fund
summary,
then
the
operating
expenditures
by
Department
then
are
are
listed
there.
The
next
section
are
operating
transfers
in
and
out,
and
then
we
have
one-time
sources
and
uses
of
funds.
This
includes
our
one-time
expenditure
is
not
part
of
regular
operating
construction.
Related
revenues
are
listed
here
are
capital
expenditures
are
also
listed
here
and
any
transfers
one-time
transfers
out,
as
well
as
our
contingency
that's
set
aside
as
part
of
our
financial
policy.
F
Then
we
have
the
net
change
and
fund
balance
that
is
shown
and
our
fund
balance
section
here
at
the
bottom.
That
shows
our
be
what
what
our
change
in
fund
balances
and
added
are
deducted
from
our
beginning
fund
balance
to
end
with
our
ending
fund
balance
for
the
year
and
then
on.
The
bottom
side
of
the
fund
balance
is
our
operating
Reserve
per
our
other
Financial
policy.
That's
our
three
months
of
operating
expense!
That's
been
set
aside.
F
That
brings
us
down
to
our
unassigned
fund
balance.
So
if
we
run
through
these.
A
So
I
have
a
question
on
that.
Where
is
the
with
us
loan
stuff?
What
what
part
is
that
set
aside?
The.
A
A
A
F
Yeah,
the
the
UEFA
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
F
F
When
those
reserves
get
released,
then
those
reserves
would
revert
back
yeah.
A
F
Spend
yeah,
yeah
and
I've
got
slide
here.
F
F
That
kind
of
explains
the
fund
balance
piece,
because
I
think
this
gets
a
little
bit
confusing,
but
fun
balance
is
you
know,
assets
less
are
liabilities
is
what
is
sitting
in
fund
balance
are
the
assets
that
are
sitting
there.
The
majority
of
it
is
cash
and
cash
equivalents,
but
there's
also
money.
That's
sitting
in
there
that
represents
accounts
receivable
due
from
other
governments
least
receivable,
due
from
other
funds
amounts
and
some
of
our
prepaid
items.
F
So
some
of
like
I,
said
the
majority
of
of
what
sitting
in
assets
is
cash
and
cash
equivalents.
Then,
if
we
subtract
out
our
liabilities,
those
are
accounts
payable.
What
we
are
vendors
accrued
payroll,
what
we
owe
our
employees
and
some
deposits
that
the
town
has.
So
if
you
take
assets
minus
our
liabilities,
that's
what's
sitting
in
that
26
million
327
164
and
fund
balance
for
fiscal
year,
24.
C
F
So
did
you
want
me
to
run
through?
Are
you
guys
clear
with
this
general
fund
summary?
You
want
me
to
run
through
the
the
columns
or
actuals.
B
So
we'll
go
through
each
Department's
budget
in
order
of
how
it
it's
set
up
in
the
accounting
and
and
presented
in
the
in
the
budget
box.
So
in
this,
the
town
manager
budget
you'll
see
at
the
bottom
authorized
positions
where
fiscal
year
23
had
these
kind
of
pieces
of
other
other
positions.
B
They're,
all
in
there
so
Tom
manager
and
then
there's
no
longer
an
administrative
assistant,
the
communication
specialist
HR
compliance
specialist,
which
is
the
Deputy
town
clerk.
That's
a
slightly
different
name,
you'll
see
an
Administration
are
under
the
administration
budget
and
the
management
analyst
was
like
0.05
from
the
utilities
and
it
really
wasn't
necessary.
There's
no
Revenue
source
that
ties
to
those
funds
and
for
payroll
purposes.
B
It
was
just
a
nightmare
with
all
of
these
allocations,
so
you
will
see
across
the
board
more
of
a
roll-up
of
the
the
payroll
percentages
into
one
or
a
couple
departments.
B
You
see
the
breakout
more
in
like
Enterprise
fund,
where
they
have
to
allocate
because
they're
separate
funds,
so
Cave
Creek
and
Desert
Hills,
Water,
Systems
and
Wastewater
must
report
their
allocations
separately
because
they
have
separate
revenues
that
tied
to
those
budgets,
but
in
the
general
fund,
it's
all
One
Fund
and
within
the
Departments
there
there
was
really
no
need
to
have
that
much
kind
of
detail
for
the
payroll
breakup
and
under
the
town
managers
budget
there
is
proposed.
B
The
nine
thousand
dollars
for
Professional
Services
is
for
contractual.
We
used
it
this
year
as
a
portion
of
the
payment
towards
the
Strategic
plan
consultant,
and
we
keep
nine
thousand
dollars
in
there
for
any
additional
Consulting
that
comes
up
throughout
the
year.
It's
not
designated
at
this
time.
B
No,
we
do
not
have
a
designation
for
every
single
Dollar
in
the
budget.
We
have
estimates
of
what
we've
traditionally
used
and
so,
as
we
go
through
it,
every
Department
director
can
tell
you
what
is
specifically
designated
and
what
is
in
there
as
sort
of
a
placeholder,
because
we
usually
have
things
that
come
up.
I
B
B
B
Yeah,
but
that
would
that
was
these
are
the
old
goals
and
the
objectives,
then,
where
citizen
knowledge,
awareness
of
the
town
hosting
and
inform
informational
public
forum-
and
that
is
also
one
of
the
objectives
in
the
new
draft,
so
we
kept
that
in
there
and
conducting
survey
that
that
is
the
plan
to
do
the
survey.
So
that's
in
here.
B
Well,
it
is
part
of
the
Town
manager,
but
it's
actually
budgeted
in
administration,
so
you'll
you'll
see
that
dollar
amount
there
and
then
anything
on
the
financial
viability
and
governance.
You'll,
see
it
both
here
and
in
finance.
The
finance
department
on
the
gfoa
certificate
of
achievement
and
our
the
audit
has
been
moved
to
the
the
Town
Council
budget
in
terms
of
cost
and
Authority,
but
the
town
manager
and
the
staff
still
have
to
pass
audit.
B
We
have
the
internal
controls
and
things
that
we
have
to
do
and
then
we
are
looking
to
establish
some
new
revenues
in
fiscal
year
22.
so,
but
they
don't
necessarily
have
a
dollar
amount
associated
with
every
single
objective.
That's
in
in
the
in
the
budget.
B
B
If
that's
a
priority
for
Council
the
hours
go
up
if
if
something
else
goes
down
on
the
list,
that
that's
the
prioritization
schedule
and
that
not
only
the
prioritization
of
the
goals
but
the
prioritization
of
the
schedule
within
the
goals,
so
there's
there's
always
going
to
be
a
schedule
and
then,
if
something's
a
priority,
we're
going
to
use
most
hours
there
and
we'll
get
to
the
other
things
and
use
more
hours
down
there
when
we
get
to
it.
So
we'll
get
there
a
lot
of
pieces
to
the
puzzle,
I.
E
B
E
B
The
budget
contains
an
overall
six
percent
salary
well
equivalent
to
salary
adjustment.
That
doesn't
necessarily
mean
it's.
Everybody
has
six
percent
and
it
goes
on
in
perpetuity.
So
there's
that's
a
dollar
amount
in
the
budget
right
now
and
that's
always
subject
to
review
and
discussion
and
the
method
and
the
manner
in
which
there
are
salary
increases,
whether
it's
a
one-time
cost
or
through
Merit,
or
an
ongoing
Market
adjustment
and
there's
actually
two
pieces
of
it.
B
B
Cpi
came
in
at
8.5,
and
so
we
looked
around
at
what
other
communities
are
doing,
the
we
don't
have
all
of
the
the
valley
communities,
but
we
compete
with
the
valley,
and
we
know
what
is
happening
in
the
market
since
coved.
There
are
things
that
changed
and
people
are
very
selective
about
where
they
were
how
they
were,
and
so
we've
recruited
on
that,
because
we
are
in
a
unique
location
where
we're
kind
of
far
away
in
any
direction.
They
don't
come
from.
B
All
around
they're,
coming
from
the
west
or
they're
coming
from
the
south,
and
most
recently
we
were
fortunate
to
have
someone
come
from
the
East,
a
couple
of
people.
So
what
we
have
so
far
is
some
data
of
what
is
happening
in
communities
around
us.
Scottsdale
had
some
of
the
bigger
cities.
First
of
all
do
regular
comp
and
class
studies
like
they
have
internal
people,
so
they
just
keep
up
on
it.
B
They
don't
have
to
go
out
and
get
a
consultant,
and
when
we
get
to
Administration
you're
going
to
see
that
we
have
a
comp,
a
class
professional
service
consultant
budgeted
for
because
the
last
one
we
did
was
in
2019.
That
was
before
covet
and
a
lot
of
things
have
changed.
Things
have
changed
in
the
market.
B
Some
of
the
other
communities
offered
our
utility
workers
like
a
dollar
more
and
you
wouldn't
think
it's
much,
but
then
they
started
their
sign-on
bonuses
with
two
thousand
dollars
and
we
lost
all
three
of
those
to
the
city
of
Glendale.
Glendale
is
proposing
6.5
salary
increase
and
it's
been
out
there
for
a
while.
B
We
lost
these
folks
recently,
and
so
they
may
have
known
what
was
coming
down
the
pike
and
then
they're,
giving
an
additional
up
to
two
two
and
a
half
percent
Merit
Scottsdale
I
believe
has
a
comp
and
class
study
up
to
date,
so
they
are
doing
a
five
percent
Merit
and
they're
doing
a
two
percent
Market
adjustment
to
moving
their
ranges
so
that
their
ranges,
they're
you're,
hiring
people
at
a
higher
wage
now
and
they're,
often
towards
the
top
of
the
range.
B
Chandler
did
a
comp
study
and
they
increased
three
percent
in
January.
It
didn't
have
the
information
for
what
they
did
last
year.
Sedona
was
another
one
recruiting
some
of
our
other
technical
staff.
B
They,
their
wages,
were
higher
for
some
of
the
staff
that
they
were
trying
to
recruit
and
we
were
able
to
counter
offer
and
we
were
fortunate
to
keep
two
employees
they're
having
a
4.5
percent
increase
for
all
their
employees.
July
1
and
plus
they're
increasing
they're
doing
a
five
percent
increase
to
their
salary
ranges,
so
they're
moving
those
up
as
well.
B
Phoenix
just
came
out
with
their
new
salaries
and
salary
percentages
and
that's
another
area
in
particularly
in
utilities
where
folks
are
looking,
they
had
had
a
two
percent
adjustment
of
their
base:
salary
in
a
one-time
payout
to
all
of
their
employees
on
April
7th.
B
They
are
doing
another
5.31
percent
annual
salary,
which
will
become
an
ongoing
wage
increase
for
all
of
their
employees.
Now
they
have
unions,
so
it
doesn't
include
the
unions
that
are
all
negotiated
separately,
we're
talking
about
the
non-union
folks
and
then
so
they're
doing
that
in
July,
so
they
get
a.
They
got
their
two
percent
one-time
payout
based
on
their
base
salary.
They
get
5.31
annual
salary,
ongoing
that
goes
into
effect
in
July
and
in
August
they
all
get
another
five
percent
of
base
salary
one-time
payout
in
Wickenburg.
B
They
just
completed
their
comp
and
class
study
and
So.
Based
on
that
study,
they
had
they
implemented
an
increase
of
1.25
percent
for
each
person
for
each
year.
In
the
position
up
to
the
midpoint
and
the
town
manager
told
me
that
every
employee
received
a
minimum
at
least
six
percent
increase,
and
that
is
that
their
overall
increase
of
their
salary
budget
was
10
percent,
their
Council
chosed,
rather
than
to
wait
for
the
new
fiscal
year.
B
They
chose
to
make
it
effective,
April
8th,
so
they've
received
their
their
increases
and
they
had
a
six
percent
increase
in
last
year's
budget
as
well.
Overall.
So
that's
just
some
general
information
that
we've
gathered
so
far.
You
know
everybody's
kind
of
in
in
the
works.
I
was
trying
to
get
some
some
of
the
other
smaller
communities,
but
that's
what
we
have
so
far
so
there's
options,
but
the
money
is
in
the
budget
for
Council.
You
can
have
a
conversation
on
what
do
we
want
to
do?
B
B
B
That's
all
I
have
right
now.
It's
plenty
there's
a
lot
going
on.
There's
a
lot
of
pieces
and
parts
and
they're
moving
it's
hard
to
compare
Apples
to
Apples,
because
small
communities
are
wearing
lots
of
hats
and
let
me
just
I
can
go
back
to
utilities
over
and
over
people
leave
utilities
because
they
can
have
it
easy
somewhere
else,
because
they're
big,
they
got
lots
of
Supervisors.
The
supervisors
aren't
also
The
Operators.
They
are,
they
have
their
shift
and
they
can
go
home.
B
They
don't
need
a
lot
of
overtime,
but
here
we
that's
just
not
how
we
operate.
You
have
a
lot
of
time
invested
in
working
for
the
town.
You
just
do
and
that's
because
you're,
a
small
staff
and
when
people
take
vacations
somebody's
got
to
cover
and
we
just
don't
have
enough
staff
to
be
able
to
just
you.
Do
your
your
regular
40
hours
a
week
and
go
home.
We
got
a
lot
of
people
who
work
overtime
and
then
everybody
else
just
about
everybody
is
salary
from
the
directors.
B
B
B
A
You
if
you've
been
making
changes
in
the
past
to
deal
with
the
utility
workers.
Yes,.
B
We
counter
offered
on
the
folks
that
laughed
and
they
left
it
wasn't
just
the
money.
It
was
the
hours
they're
working.
We
were
successful,
encounter
offering
for
two
people
who
are
now
in
the
new
development
services
over
the
last
year
year
and
a
half
so.
B
Public
Works
was
unusual
too,
because
we
were,
we
had
a
good
spell
there
for
a
while.
We
were
going
along
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
this
last
year
they
had
a
turnover
Public.
Works
has
always
had
turnover,
and
we
tried
to
deal
with
that
in
the
last
compensation
study.
We
we
brought
the
ranges
up
because
we
were
losing
them
to
utilities.
Every
time
there
was
an
opening
in
utilities.
D
B
A
A
B
We
had
six
percent
in
last
year
and
if
it's
8.5
in
the
the
CPI
for
Phoenix,
you
know
Metro
region,
it
gets
us
in
the
ballpark.
It
gives
us
a
number
to
work
with
and
and
if
we
get
a
good
comp
study
done,
we
could
phase
things
in
and
look
to
to
keep
up
with
everybody
else.
Basically
who
our
competitors
are.
A
B
A
A
I,
you
know:
I
I,
take
my
dog
to
the
park
down
the
road
down
here
where
the
soccer
fields
are
down
off
near
near
Tatum
and
invariably
there's
three
City
of
Phoenix
trucks.
In
there
sitting
there
I
guess
they're
asleep
in
their
truck
anyway,
yeah
I
think
you're
working.
D
C
Yeah
all
right
good
evening,
Maryland
members
Council
so
for
the
administration
budget
to
go
through
and
then,
if
you
have
questions,
please,
let
me
know
as
we
go
along.
Our
advertising
fund
is
for
all
our
legal
ads
that
are
required
per
state
law,
ordinances,
elections.
Things
like
that.
It's
been
in
our
Professional
Services
fund.
We
have
our
code
supplements,
along
with
the
additional
funds
for
the
compensation
study
for
this
year,
so
telephones
include
all
phones
and
internet
Town
Hall,
as
well
as
all
general
fund
cell
phones
are
non-professional.
C
Services
include
our
contracts
for
elections,
our
County
contracts
for
animal
control
and
as
well,
see,
and
then
our
insurance
covers
again.
General
fund
only
which
is
about
54
is
the
cost
of
our
annual
automobile
liability,
inland
marine
and
property
and
umbrella
insurance.
C
The
remaining
portion
is
covered
under
utilities,
and
then
we
do
plan
year
over
year.
A
10
increase
Postage
and
our
copier
covers
are
especially
like
our
newsletter
expenses
and
our
copier
equipment.
C
C
Any
questions
on
Administration
that
was
covering
trying
to
cover
the
higher
end
ones
there
I'll
move
on
to
information
technology,
so
in
our
web
hosting
fund
that
includes
our
town
website.
We
will
be
doing
upgrades
this
year.
Our
business
licensing
software
and
agenda
management,
as
well
as
our
proposed
short-term
rental
system,.
C
Professional
Services
includes
all
our
outside
computer
network
support
the
funds
there.
Some
funds
got
moved
around
so
that
they're
in
the
correct,
under
the
correct
funding
source,
so
so
you'll
see
some
changes
that
moved
out
of
other.
They
could
be
moved
out
as
other
departments
or,
as
you
see
here,
they
were
just
moved
from
Professional
Services
to
computer
software.
Could.
C
E
F
A
C
A
C
Go
ahead
and
add
to
that
the
Professional
Services
is
again.
The
outside
computer
network
support
computer
equipment
is
again
town
wide,
or
is
it
town
wide
computers
and
related
equipment?
All
the
under
General
funds?
C
A
C
F
C
A
Would
this
include
the
stuff
for
the
water
and
sewer.
C
Some,
if
it's
used
in
other
departments,
then
a
portion
of
it
would
be
under
here.
Otherwise,
it's
under
utilities,
all.
E
A
A
I
C
All
right,
you
are
next,
so
then
Fleet
division
is
also
under
Administration.
C
The
general
fund,
please,
for
this
upcoming
year
we
have
two
two
items
that
will
be
two
vehicles
that
will
be
purchased
and
that's
that
the
three
ton
roll
off
and
the
F-350
with
service
body
and
liftgate.
There
are
the
items
that
are
in
the
CIP.
I
Questions
if
I
can
go
back
to
the
previous
question,
then
in
our
under
under
the
goal
gain.
A
I
A
I
agree
two
or
three,
but
I
mean
everything
we
do
that's
what
we
had
talked
about
off
the
offsite
and
we
all
kind
of
nodded.
Our
heads,
North
and
South
well.
Yeah,
we're
gonna,
have
to
prioritize
that,
though
we're
going
to
get
specific
and
we're
going
to
prioritize.
What's
the
most
important.
What's.
I
A
B
Is
specific
to
like
the
town
code
and
administration,
their
general
fund
kind
of
things,
except
anything
that
would
be
pertaining
to
zoning
or
those
activities
and
development
services?
You
would
find
those
prioritized
in
that
department
that
that's
the
key,
and
so
we
can
be
more
specific.
With
these
when
we
say
we
need
to
update
the
election
criteria
to
match
the
town,
the
the
state
statutes
or
whatever
something
like
that
or
something
in
administration
or
other
things.
B
But
if
it's
specific
to
a
function,
that's
in
another
department
like
zoning
or
building
or
whatever
that
would
be
in
development
services.
You'll
see
it
in
there
and
we
can
put
that
in
there
and
they
would.
They
would
be
prioritized
because
it's
based
on
the
staff
that
are
responsible
for
kind
of
following
that
process.
So
you
could
have
multiple
things
going,
but
you
know
there's
always
so
much
that's
going
to
come
from
Administration,
so
much
from
development
services.
So
we
need
to
have
that
conversation
prioritize.
You
know
pick
a
few.
I
I
B
You
know,
committee
or
policy
or,
however,
we're
going
to
do
this
so
we're
working
on
all
of
those
and
then
so
in
the
next
month,
or
so
we'll
know
when
we
can
get
that
scheduled
end
of
June,
something
like
that.
Maybe
first
of
July.
A
A
We
went
through
the
exercise,
I,
don't
know
if
the
planning
Commissioners
putting
the
items
in
but
I
think
that
most
on
Council
put
a
listing
of
the
of
the
zoning
changes
that
they'd
like
to
see.
That's
not
all
inclusive,
because
we
want
to
get
their
ideas
too.
But
then,
after
we
get
those
things
discussed
and
a
little
understood
is
to
put
a
priority
and
resources
on
that
and
decide
where
we're
going
to
go,
which
is
number
one
and
all
the
way
down.
Yeah.
B
But
you
you
could
do
the
the
finalizing
kind
of
the
goals
and
for
the
Strategic
plan
itself
as
well,
because
that
would
be
helpful
for
us
to
finalize.
The
documents
were
required
to
put
in
the
budget.
B
Yeah
it's
just
we
have
to.
We
have
to
include
the
Strategic
plan
in
the
budget
with
the
goals
in
order
to
meet
all
the
gfoa
requirements
that
that's
the
key
we
good.
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,
next,
after
Administration
is
legal
services
and
the
middle
of
any
big
lawsuits.
So
that's
a
good
thing.
You
didn't
budget
a
whole
bunch
of
money.
We
we
have
150
000
in
there
for
any
unforeseen
settlements.
Most
of
our
issues
go
to
the
risk
pool
and
they
cover
a
portion
of
you
know.
B
Lawsuits
land
use
those
kinds
of
things,
so
we
budgeted
for
fiscal
year
24,
two
hundred
thousand,
it's
a
total
of
350.
A
A
The
council
are
ultimately
responsible
for
making
policy
decisions
about
functions,
budgets,
tax
rates,
Planning
and
Zoning
General
plans,
long
and
short
range
goals,
contract
approvals,
and
it
also
talks
a
little
bit
further
in
there
about
how
the
council
is
responsible
for
all
these
different
things.
The
other
thing
that
it
states
is
all
governmental
Authority,
resides
in
the
council
as
a
body
of
elected
officials,
so
I
think
that
needs
to
be
reworded
a
little
bit
to
be
more
in
line
with
what
the
Arizona
League
of
towns
and
government,
towns
and
cities
they.
I
A
And
objectives
work
with
Town
manager,
planning,
director,
Planning
Commission
to
bring
forth
updated
zoning
codes
and
regulations,
work
with
Town
manager,
development
directors,
review
and
recommend
updates
to
the
town
code
to
the
mayor
and
Town
Council.
The
council's
job
is
to
actually
do
those
updates,
so
I,
don't
know
how
we
we
have
to
approve
them
right.
Oh.
B
That's
correct,
they
all
come
to
that,
but
we
always
provide.
We
always
have
the
attorney.
Give
the
legal
advice.
He's
often
writes
some
of
the
legal
language
for
new
new
codes
and
ordinances
that
have
to
be
updated.
A
Needs
to
be
clarified,
okay,
provide
guidance
to
and
provide
legal
guidance
too.
I.
Don't
want
anybody
to
think
that
at
the
end
of
the
day,
if
the
Planning
Commission
does
something
or
legal
does
something,
it's
really
the
Town
Council
that's
responsible
and
we're
the
ones
that
are
going
to
get
beaten
up
by
the
public
I'm
not
trying
to
be
rude
or
anything.
Oh.
B
A
A
If
you
go
under
the
goals
and
objectives,
I
would
change
I'd
get
rid
of
the
last
two
and
change
it
to
make
policy
decisions
on
City
functions,
budgets,
tax
rates,
Planning
and
Zoning
General
plans,
long
and
short
range
goals,
contract
approvals
which
covers
all
of
that
stuff
and
then
I
would
also
make
a
second
bullet
or
the
third
bullet
to
be
linked
between
the
citizens
and
local
government.
Because
that's
what
the
let's
stick
to
the
lead
stuff,
because
we
don't
want
to
get
beat
up
by
those
guys
on
down
the
line
for
confusing
things.
B
C
B
Okay,
so
just
kind
of
highlights
and
development
services,
because
it's
Unique
because
we
rolled
things
into
one
department,
so
it
includes
the
prior
planning
and
zoning
and
building
departments
into
development
services.
The
payroll
for
all
divisions
have
been
Consolidated
and
rolled
up
into
the
development
services
department
section
that
particular
number
it's
just
a
budgeting
number
was
formerly
Planning
and
Zoning.
B
It
didn't
matter
which
number
we
used,
that's
just
the
one
we
picked,
the
other
Division
division,
expenditures
for
contracts
and
services,
Commodities
and
capital
are
also
all
rolled
up
into
development
services
department,
section
of
the
budget.
Then
we
have
two
divisions.
There
used
to
be
a
whole
bunch
of
the
divisions.
B
They
were
like
five
or
six
divisions
in
building,
and
we
simplified
that
and
rolled
it
up,
because
there
really
was
no
again
no
reason
to
break
out
the
salaries
there
wasn't
it
wasn't
tied
to
any
Revenue
Source
or
so
we
rolled
that
up
in
that
case,
and
then
we
reduced
the
divisions.
B
There
was
a
separate
one
for
parks
and
is
separate
for
Trails,
so
we
combine
those
into
parks
and
trails
and
then
the
other
division
is
rodeo
and
Rodeo
is
tied
specifically
to
a
contract
and
we
kind
of
track
what's
going
on
there
and
who's
working
there
per
the
contracts.
So
there
was
a
good
reason
to
keep
that
as
a
division,
and
then
we
took
the
fleet
out,
as
Teresa
said
and
and
the
fleet
is
now
in
the
administration
budget.
B
So
the
biggest
item
under
in
in
this
budget
is
in
the
payroll
section
and-
and
it's
listed
on
that
summary
of
positions
that
we
handed
out
there's
vacant
position
for
a
plans
Examiner
that
we
plan
to
fill
in
this
year.
If
we
can
find
a
qualified
candidate,
we
put
that
that
is
out
for
Recruitment
and
we
haven't
had
any
qualified
candidates
yet
so
then,
if
you
go
under
contracts
and
services,
Professional
Services,
you
see
the
proposed
budget
of
180
000
for
the
fiscal
year,
24.
B
B
We
don't
have
Personnel
to
cover
a
hundred
percent
when
it's
this
busy,
so
we
always
have
contractors
that
do
third
party
review,
but
we
normally
would
have
a
plans
examiner
in-house
that
would
handle
a
majority
of
them.
So
you
see
it
budgeted
both
ways.
So
you've
got
a
plans.
Examiner
budgeted
that's
currently
vacant
in
the
24
budget,
but
you
also
have
third
party
review
at
150
000..
Both
of
those
are
not
going
to
occur.
B
We
either
fill
the
position
or
we
continue
with
our
third
party
review
as
a
contractor
and
the
other
30
000,
that's
in
the
Professional
Services
are
for
consultant
again
undesignated.
We
always
have
a
need
for
Consultants
throughout
the
year.
Something
comes
up.
Council
has
you
know
an
issue
you'd
like
us
to
look
into.
We
hire
Consultants,
so
we
have
thirty
thousand
dollars
in
their
undesignated.
B
B
Let's
see
what
else
is
in
there.
I
have
a
list
here.
E
E
A
I
A
B
D
A
Me
it's
a
general
procedure
that
if,
if
we
have
a
significant
Department
that
has
a
significant
Revenue
that
already
matched
against
what
those
fees
are
so
that
we
can
see
are
the
fees
covering
the
cost.
I
mean
I.
This
is
one
of
my
areas.
Major
areas
of
concern
for
some
time
is
that
I
have
never
been
comfortable,
that
we're
covering
the
fees
and-
and
that
would
include
when
a
when
a
project
comes
in
and
you
need
engineering
or
you
need
utility
opinions
and
they
spend
time
on.
A
It
are
those
fees
all
those
fees
be
captured
and
put
into
the
fee
so
that
the
general
fund
is
not
subsidizing.
The
the
building
activities.
F
A
Can
get
those
broken
out
and
the
other
one
is
the
visibility
on
the
rodeo,
the
you
know
we're
going
to
put
money
in
there.
We
put
a
lot
of
money
already
we're
putting
more
in
there.
There
needs
to
be
some
visibility
on
how
how
much
of
the
operating
expenses
we're
covering
and
how
many
events
I
mean.
What
does
what's
the
utilization
is?
Is
it
worth
it
because
we,
once
you
put
money
into
something
we
want
to
use
it?
We
want
the
community
is.
A
Ought
to
be
Rodeo
some
sort
of
rodeo
utilization
number
a
number
of
number
of
events,
money
I,
don't
know
what
that
would
be,
but
some
way
to
to
show
that
we're
getting
our
money's
worth
out
of
all
the
money
that
we
spent
there
and,
of
course,
the
Rodeo's
spending
a
lot
of
money
down
there
too.
Okay,
it's
a
great
asset.
Let's
look
for
some
of
the
term
yep
well,.
D
A
Have
I
have
a
similar
question:
I,
don't
see
where
I
think
we
do.
B
A
The
local
landmarks
work
and
all
of
that
I
don't
see
any
kind
of
help
for
the
museum
in
here.
No.
B
They
they
offered
to
take
it
over
after
this
year.
It's
not
this
year.
This
this
coming
fiscal
year,
we
have
budgeted
under
Economic
Development.
We
have
the
funds
for
the
local
landmarks,
probably
a
project,
twelve
thousand
under
Economic
Development,
and
then
the
tourism
Bureau.
We
have
another
three
thousand.
That
would
be
for
another
concierge
tour
and
we
have
media
advertising.
B
We
spend
five
thousand
dollars,
we
use
true
West
and
drive,
guide,
etc.
Those
are
the
some
of
our
local
local
magazines
and
then
under
non-professional,
Services,
there's
another
five
thousand
dollars
that
we
keep
that
support
anything
that
comes
up
in
economic
development
that
could
be
tied
to
those
things
now.
B
I
know
there
are
some
some
issues
at
the
tourism
Bureau
about
signage
and
things
like
that
and
those
those
requests
are
already
underway
for
this
fiscal
year
and
then
there
was
a
request
to
do
some
artwork
on
a
wall
out
there
we
contacted
the
school.
Looking
for
you
know,
try
to
put
the
students
in
there.
They
didn't
have
any
interest
right
now,
but
we'll
try
again
in
the
new
school
year
and
see
if
we
can
do
something
there
and
the
other
thing
was
they
had
requested
Landscaping.
B
It
doesn't
come
with
the
lease,
but
at
the
same
time
the
town
is
not
allowed
to
spend
public
funds
on
somebody
else's
property,
so
we're
working
with
the
local
landscaper
to
see
if
they
could
donate
a
little
time
try
to
work
something
out,
okay
or
even
if
we
have
to
pay
them.
But
if
you
pay
them
and
they're
working
on
somebody
else,
it
doesn't
quite
work.
So
we
have
to
be
careful
that
mm-hmm.
D
We
have
I
mean
if
y'all
have
been
out
to
the
rodeo,
the
rodeo
committee
rents,
tons
of
porta
potties
just
just
to
cover
it
this
coming
weekend,
or
maybe
it
was
last
yeah
this
coming
well,
I,
don't
know
which
one
it
is,
there's
a
there's,
a
it's
leased
out
or
rented
out
to
a
barrel
racing
event
where
they're,
where
they're
doing
stuff.
Those
ladies,
are
probably
going
to
have
to
find
a
place
to
there's,
not
even
any
bushes
out
there
to
hide
behind.
D
D
A
B
B
It's
already
moved
over
yeah
you'll,
see
that
in
public
works,
yeah
trails
and
parks.
That
would
be
desert
awareness,
Park,
and
you
know
the
trail
Pathways.
So
there
there's
some
maintenance
in
there.
There's
just
pieces
and
parts
of
the
the
town
core
Pathways
that
are
left
to
be
completed
in
of
what
we
have
access
to
so
I
asked
Luke
for
a
map
of
the
areas
that
we
we
hear
about
the
most
difficult
to
to
walk
through
and
the
easiest
one
that
we'll
be
able
to
address
is.
B
We
are
working
with
Heralds
on
the
south
side
of
Cave
Creek
Road,
there's
enough
room
there
for
that
to
be
improved,
so
we're
working
with
Harolds
on
that
piece
of
it.
But
the
more
difficult
sections
of
the
trails
and
pathway
are
on
the
North
side
of
Cave
Creek
run.
So
you
know
where
the
old
town
dump
is
and
there's
a
there's
a
fence
up
right
there
and
and
how
can
chime
in
on
how
the
right-of-way
is
set
up?
B
We
don't
have
right
away
or
we
have
you
know
a
couple
feet
of
of
right
away,
so
we
can't
just
go
in
and
put
in
a
pathway,
it's
not
about
the
money
it's
about
access
to
it,
and
so
the
Old
Town
Dom.
We
would
that's.
That
would
be
a
challenge.
We
have
to
work
with
the
property
owner
to
provide
an
easement,
but
it's
also
a
difficult
place
that
would
have
to
be
a
Hardscape
of
some
sort.
B
You
couldn't
just
go
in
and
and
put
crushed
granite
next
to,
that
is
the
RICO
Plaza,
and
that
is
the
area
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
work
with
the
property
owner
and
so
we're
taking
advantage
of
that.
So
we're
hoping
that
we,
we
have
an
agreement
in
this
next
fiscal
year
in
24.,
Circle
K
is
next
to
it.
That
is
difficult
mostly
because
there
isn't
a
lot
of
room.
B
We
don't
have
a
right-of-way
or
an
easement
there,
but
also
just
the
curve
of
it
and
they
they
wanted
to
protect
their
property
and
and
not
have
cars
coming
around
and
or
people
walking
where
this
car
is
driving
in
and
out
of
that
Circle
K,
so
I
mean
I,
have
maps
with
where
the
right-of-way
is
and
where
it
isn't.
So
there
really
just
isn't
anything.
So
that's
just
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
negotiate
with
the
property
owners
and
oh
the
other
issue
with
Circle
K
was
the
retention
Basin.
D
A
As
on
a
priority
basis,
I
I
see
we
have
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
spread
over
three
years
and
stuff
I'm,
not
sure
that
we've
got
the
right
priority
on
something
that
at
least
The
Pedestrian
portion
of
it.
We've
got
documents
and
and
walking
on
that
road
is
we
just
got
to
get
it
solved?
Whatever
the
problems
are,
we've
got
to
overcome
them.
E
B
E
Okay,
I
get
there
in
the
change
in
ownership.
There's
often
a
negotiation
that
takes
place,
but
I
gather.
B
B
No
I
mean
you
you
when
they
need
something:
it's
not
you're
going
to
get
a
building
permit
to
do
a
tenant
Improvement
if
they,
if
they're
required
to
do
something
we
can
say
yeah
here.
We
can
waive
these
fees
here,
but
you
gotta
instead
do
this.
We
we
don't
have
that
with
the
town.
Don't
we
do
this
recall
and
we
don't,
and
so
the
other
opportunity
has
not
been.
A
E
I
B
A
A
A
George
no
I
I'm,
not
taking
the
people.
D
B
B
That
was
very
promising.
B
B
Okay
and
those
were
the
main
things
in
development
services.
I
B
Contracts
and
then
building
review
and
all
of
that
that
we
rolled
up
the
salaries
and
all
of
so
you
keep
going
to
facilities
and
that's
all
all
rolled
up
as
well.
So
you
don't
see
anything
in
the
blue
column
until
you
come
down
to
the
next
page
under
Rodeo
Grounds.
So
there
you,
you
see
the
electric
water
sewer
crash
non-professional
services
that
miscellaneous
things
that
they
have
at
the
rodeo
and
and
maintenance.
The
majority
of
that
is
staff
time
that
you
would
find
in
the
payroll.
B
They
have
supplies
out
there
and
then
the
big
thing
is
the
capital
Improvement
and
the
350
000
is
for
the
restrooms.
But
I
can
say
that
the
restrooms
we
already
have
a
design.
So
we
will
be
paying
for
that
in
this
fiscal
year
and
then
we
have
that
out
for
quotes
for
construction
to
start
and
those
should
be
coming
in.
A
B
There's
one
document
that
we're
trying
to
get
a
hard
copy
of
from
Bureau
of
Land,
Management
and
Luke
has
contacted
them
and
he
has
the
the
document
number
and
everything
I
think
vice
mayor
had
asked
for
that.
But
he
didn't
have
it.
He
was
going
to
try
and
get
that
Friday
and
he
didn't
have
it.
They.
B
B
Not
yeah,
but
that's
just
that
the
heart
we
we
know
we
have.
The
county
has
an
agreement
with
BLM
for
at
least
out
to
2032..
The
county
has
no
interest
in
taking
over
the
park
and
they
are
the
ones
you
know
we're
it's.
The
three
of
us
have
worked
together
over
the
years
that
we
do
the
improvements
and
they
will
work
with
BLM
and
get
that
turned
over
to
the
town
as
well.
A
B
B
Talk
to
BMB
in
the
morning
about
it,
but
that
is
tied
to
a
grant
and
if
we
don't
get
the
grant,
we're
we're
not
doing
it
so
and
that
would
come
before
Council
anyway.
So
but
I'll
get
an
answer
for
you
before
Thursday.
A
I,
just
we
have
a
lot
of
trails
and
I
know:
we've
had
litigation
in
the
past.
The
last
thing
in
the
world
I
want
to
see
is
another
10
years
of
litigation
because
we
didn't
dot
our
eyes
and
cross
our
T's.
So
if
we're
going
to
create
that
Trailhead
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
easements
and
everything
to
get
it
up
to
Cave
Creek
Regional
Park.
There.
D
I
B
Registrate
court
is
by
contract
with
the
town
of
Carefree.
B
So
the
current
fiscal
year
costs
for
magistrate
court
is
all
under
contracts.
Professional,
Services
contracts.
B
A
D
Worth
the
85
or
80
80
yeah,
we
we.
B
Was
now
the
revenues
go
to
carefree
and
then
our
our
Revenue
goes
to
carefree,
and
then
they
pay
for
certain
things
and
we
pay
for
certain
things
and
in
the
end,
it
all
kind
of
comes
out
pretty
even.
B
B
A
C
E
B
To
law
enforcement
or
actually
Public,
Safety
and
the
first
part
of
Public
Safety,
is
law
enforcement
and
obviously
the
largest
expense
in
law
enforcement
is
the
contact
with
MCSO,
which
went
up
quite
a
bit,
and
so
much
will
give
you
some
some
details
on
that.
But
I
can
tell
you
that
the
majority
of
the
increase
in
the
contract
was
Personnel.
So.
A
Before
we
do
that
back
in
the
development
services,
can
we
get?
Can
we
get
some
money
set
aside
to
have
somebody
take
a
look
at
parking?
I've
talked
to
several
of
the
business
owners
on
Cave
Creek
Road.
Maybe
on
Thursday
Friday
Saturday
nights,
we
could
shut
down
half
the
roadway
and
do
diagonal
parking
or
something
can
we
do
something
to
take
a
look
at
options
for
parking?
Yes,.
I
B
There
is
there's
both
a
Town
agreement
that
is
underway,
and
you
will
be
briefed
on
that
April
17th
in
executive
session
on
the
negotiations
for
an
agreement
that
would
bring
some
additional
parking,
and
then
there
was
a
private
purchase
of
land
for
additional
parking
by
business
that
has
closed
and
I'll
have
to
find
out.
You
know
what
the
status
is
of
the
Improvement
on
it,
but
there's
two
big
things
that
are
going
to
change
the
parking
and
they're
coming
up.
You'll,
be
aware
of
them.
A
The
problem
isn't
going
to
be
parking
lots
okay,
so
the
problem
is
going
to
be
getting
people
from
the
parking
lots
across
the
street
or
wherever
they
have
to
go,
walking
up
and
down
the
street.
So
is
there
something
we
can
do
to
take
a
look
at
what
other
options
we
might
be
able
to
use?
You
got
to
remember.
We
have
a
hundred
thousand
people
that
are
going
to
be
coming
in
to
Cave
Creek
here,
not
indicate
pre,
but
into
this
area
with
the
chip
plants
and
everything
else.
A
They're
constructing
we're
one
of
the
few
places
it's
kind
of
a
cool
place
to
come
see
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
screwing
our
own
businesses
by
not
having
facilities
parking,
those
kinds
of
things
available
so
that
they
can
make
money
to
bring
back
us
too.
Well,
let
me
ask,
let
me
ask
you
about
this.
A
How
are
we
screwing
somebody
if
they
don't
put
enough
Park
in
well?
Previous
Town
councils
approved
a
lot
of
buildings
without
sufficient
parking,
I
mean
you
go,
go
check,
Harolds
or
or
the
Buffalo
Chip
at
night,
I
mean,
but
it's
that
parking
for
a
business
is
fundamentally
the
businesses
issue
I
understand
that.
But
why
did
we
approve
those
buildings
without
you'll.
E
Have
to
ask:
whoever
did
that
yeah?
They
came
to
us
and
they
met
our
ordinances,
our
ordinances.
They
have
an
ordinance
for
bull
fighting
when,
when
the
when
they're
doing
it,
they
need
a
lot
more
parking
than
the
ordinance.
So.
A
A
Says
the
the
businesses
make
money
with
more
parking?
That's
why
businesses
put
parking
in
so
they
can
operate
and
it's
a
fundamental
principle
that
a
business
supplies
its
own
parking.
Now,
if
we
have
a
general
area
like
you
know,
Sedona
that
you
can
put
it
in
and
it
serves
multiple
businesses.
That
is
a
good
reason.
That's
what
I
was
talking
about.
If
you
take.
Let
me
finish
what
I'm
saying
okay,
but
if
somebody
has
a
a
chronic
issue,
the
way
that
the
Buffalo
Chip
has
that's
fundamentally
a
Buffalo
Chip
issue
to
solve.
A
If
it's
one
specific
business
in
one
specific
area,
yeah
I'm
not
talking
about
one
specific
business,
we
have
festivals
or
things
like
that.
There's
always
insufficient
parking,
I,
don't
care!
Where
we
go,
you
they
do
it
down
at
Stagecoach
Village.
You.
A
B
Yeah
mayor
councilman
Rhodes,
it's
it's
an
issue
that
we've
been
studying
in
different
capacities
for
a
few
years
and
it
it's
tied
to
multiple
things.
Parking
is
one
issue,
but
it's
The,
Pedestrian
safety,
traffic
and
movement
and
all
of
those
studies
that
we've
had,
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
that
information.
And
now
it's
kind
of
putting
together
the
the
pieces
of
the
puzzle.
We
looked
at
changing
traffic
flow
parking
options.
The
diagonal
parking
actually
came
up
in
one
of
the
studies
as
a
discussion
point,
but.
B
The
the
business
that
has
caused
the
most
complaints
in
town
is
the
business
that
purchased
land
to
develop
parking
which
will
be
safe
for
those
people
frequently
that
business
or
you
know
the
close
by
the
business
is
close
by
to
their
business-
will
resolve
that
issue.
So
that's
one
thing
that
causes
an
ongoing
every
week,
issue
I
think
if
we
can
resolve
the
the
day-to-day
and
week-to-week
issues
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
plan.
B
For
you
know
the
couple
of
really
big
events
in
town,
and
you
know
we
can
look
at
other
solutions
for
that
and
perhaps
requiring
people
be
busted
or
something
I
mean
there,
isn't
enough
parking
for
those
those
big
events,
but
for
the
day-to-day
and
week-to-week
issues
we
really
have
some
good
Solutions
coming
down
the
pike
for
parking
both
from
the
town
and
the
businesses
that
will
improve
for
kind
of
like
your
daily
life,
the
people
who
get
through
town
who
live
here,
but
also
for
the
people
visiting
and
being
safer.
B
But
it's
tied
to
the
pathways
and
moving
pedestrians.
It's
tied
to
crossing
the
streets
and
and
you'll
see
that
in
the
in
the
public
works
for
Crossings
and
the
lighting
and
what
the
recommendations
from
the
traffic
studies
are
and
you'll
see
that
there's
the
speed
tables
where
the
recommendation
at
the
time
it
was
the
least
impactful
of
all
of
the
options,
and
that
is
something
the
council
will
have
to
talk
about
in
the
budget
and
agree
to
so
there's
lots
of
pieces
of
the
puzzle,
but
we've
been
working
on
it.
B
A
Okay,
we
had
a
request:
take
a
five
minute
break
so
we'll
reconvene
at
let's
take
10
805.
A
Take
it
away.
Mr
mayor
council
I
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
present
the
budget,
just
the
highlights
from
the
Marshall's
office.
Obviously
the
the
white
elf
in
the
room
is
there
was
a
sharp
increase
in
the
Maricopa
County
Sheriff's
Office
contract
fiscal
year.
2023
was
885
600
for
spear
20
2014
is
over
a
million.
47.
A
represents
approximately
a
hundred
and
four
thousand
dollar
increase,
which
is
under
the
salary
and
benefits
for
the
Sheriff's
Office,
not
mine,
unfortunately,
and
another
65
000,
approximately
in
or
so
special
pay
special
pay
is
the
Sheriff's
Office
operates
at
deficit.
They
don't
have
enough
Personnel
law
enforcement
in
total
throughout
the
country
suffering
from
a
lack
of
people
that
want
to
do
this
great
job
so
because
of
that
they're
special.
They
call
it
special
pay,
but
that's
that's
the
overtime
really
deputies
that
are
required
to
work
extra
shifts
and
whatnot.
A
So
that's
why
we
saw
that
that
large
increase
and
also
you
know,
there's
an
incentive
pay
nowadays
to
stay
in
the
agencies
and
recruitment
pay
as
well,
how
much
most
law
enforcement's
doing.
We
can't
hold
that
against
them.
That's
that's
what
they
do.
A
We
also
saw
an
increase
over
in
the
descriptions
and
that's
kind
of
an
amusing
story
for
me.
I
shouldn't
say
it,
but
the
Maricopa
County
Wireless
controls
all
the
Police
radios
and
they
kind
of
forgot
about
us
for
a
number
of
years,
so
I
mean
Budget
workers,
they
weren't
building
a
sport.
Someone
realized
that
they
forgot
to
bill
us
for
a
few
years
and
now
they
started
building
us
again.
A
So
if
you
look
at
the
subscriptions
line
that
that's
pretty
much,
why
you
see
a
fairly
sharp
increase,
4
500
to
15
000.,
we
actually
have
to
pay
for
the
radios
we're
using,
which
seems
fair
anyway,
and
then
you'll
also
see
under
computers,
I
budget
for
a
replacement
computer,
the
Maricopa,
County,
Sheriff's,
Office
and
I
have
a
police
laptop
that
I
use
for
dispatching.
Watching
calls
for
service
that
type
of
thing
as
any
electronic
equipment.
You
know
they
have
a
shelf
life
of
or
useful
life
of
x
amount.
A
The
years
and
ours
is
kind
of
at
that
point.
So
if
it
croaks
we'll
replace
it,
if
it
doesn't,
we.
C
A
I
can't
deal
with
it.
I
get
a
lot
of
complaints
about
traffic
enforcement
and
say
it
that
way
and
I
want
to
talk
to
the
Sheriff's
captain.
We've
talked
for
an
hour
and
a
half
and
I
heard
all
the
reasons
they
can't
do
can't
enforce
the
laws
and
traffic
laws,
but
he
he
did
have
a
suggestion,
and
that
was
to
modify
the
contract
to
reduce
the
contract,
and
then
we
could
have
the
money
to
do
our
own
enforcement
and
I.
A
Don't
know
how
that
would
work,
but
my
question
is:
can
we
hire
contract
traffic
enforcement?
Can
we
hire
people
to
enforce
traffic
law
to
give
tickets
out
and
make
stops
just
a
point
of
clarity?
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understood
what
you
said.
You
met
with
the
captain
from
Maricopa
County
Sheriff's
Office.
He
recommended
we
decrease
the
contract.
A
A
The
sheriff's
office
is
certainly
under
a
consent
decree
and
that
makes
their
job
a
little
more
difficult,
I
believe
puts
a
lot
more
scrutiny
on
them.
We
can't
go
out.
We
can't
hire,
in
my
opinion,
police
officers
from
another
jurisdiction
to
coming
to
our
jurisdiction.
To
strictly
do
traffic
enforcement.
We
could
look
at
increasing
Personnel.
You
know
maybe
a
half
time
person
that
would
specialize
in
in
traffic.
A
Well
I'm
I'm,
just
saying:
let's
take
the
constraints,
often
think
about
I
mean
I,
haven't
seen
any
decrease
in
speed
in
town
I
mean
there's
I,
see,
I,
see,
I,
don't
know
three
four
times
out
of
Sheriff's
vehicles
in
town
that
I
used
to
see.
Has
it
affected
speed?
Yet
it
doesn't
appear
to
be
so
and
that's
the
that's.
The
needle
we're
trying
to
move
is
is
keeping
the
speed
through
town
lower
to
reduce
pedestrian
problems,
I
I,
let's
take
the
constraints
off
and
and
think
about
doing
something
ourselves.
A
If
they
can't
write
tickets,
how
can
we
get
tickets
written?
We
have
law
enforcement,
we
do
so
it's
a
resource
issue.
Can
we
find
an
economical
way
to
enforce
the
the
traffic
laws
in
town?
A
I
could
certainly
look
at
options.
He
did
mention
his
idea,
not
mine,
that
there
is
one
part
of
that
contract
that
I
didn't
know
existed,
which
is
over
and
above
some
it's
an
extra
that's
in
there
that
he
said
well,
we
can.
We
could
give
this
back
to
you
and
you
could
use
this
money
to
go.
Do
something
else
so
sure.
In
previous
years,
Mr
Mayor
vice
mayor
members
of
Council.
A
In
previous
years,
town
Cape
created
contract,
for
which
was
a
traffic
car
Carefree
does
a
traffic
car
and
the
traffic
car
is
basically
a
dedicated
officer,
who's
focusing
on
high
impact
traffic.
So,
but
again
it
comes
at
a
cost
and-
and
it
was.
A
And
the
sheriff
has
still
got
all
these
problems.
It
is
Mr
Mayor
vice
mayor
and
members
of
council.
However,
for
example,
the
the
individual
that
we
used
to
have-
and
in
fact
the
current
guy
that
that's
in
in
the
Carefree
traffic
court
position,
I
want
to
say,
assault
function
in
life
is
a
vehicle
and
traffic
log,
but
I
would
tell
you
that
probably
80
to
85
percent
of
what
he
does.
Maybe
90
is
the
vehicle
traffic
laws
in
the
town
of
Carefree.
A
We
benefit
from
it
because
he
drives
to
through
Cave
Creek
to
get
into
Carefree.
So
he
still
does
traffic
enforcement
along
the
way,
but
his
sole
function
in
life
really
enforce
the
law
but
vehicle
traffic
law.
Didn't
they
stop
that?
No
sir,
it's
seasonal
right,
I,
don't
know
how
many
months
they're
currently
paying
for
but
I
I
believe
there's
a
a
three-month
lag
during
maybe
the
winter
where
that
where
it
goes
off,
but
it's
certainly
something
we
can
look
at
again
what
they
do
when
they
hire
for
that
position,
is
they
recruit?
A
Officers
who
are
more
motivated
would
be
the
best
way
I
could
think
of
it
and
that
position,
because
it's
a
discretionary
funding,
you
know
we
could
cut
it
or
we
could.
We
can
endorse
it.
Well,
I
I,
guess
I'm
having
trouble
paying
money
for
enforcement,
we're
not
getting
because
that's
basically
what
he
told
me
is
yeah.
We
have
the
people
in
case
of
emergency
that
we
we
got
this
decree
and
now
the
new
sheriff
now
has
a
another
consent
decree
or
something
he's
got
one
on
him.
A
Positive
that
the
sheriff
was
going
to
be
able
to
enforce
the
traffic
laws
in
this
town.
So
how
are
we
going
to
force
the
traffic
laws?
I
will
get
with
my
town
manager
and
we'll
discuss
it
and
I'll
have
a
better
answer
for
you,
yeah
and
and
first
time
it's
been
brought
up
once
again.
This
is
a
safety
issue.
It's
a
public
safety
issue.
A
Yes,
we
are
certainly
talking
about
traffic
common
measures,
I'm.
E
A
You'll
hear
from
our
astounded
Town
engineer
about
those
issues
and
again
it's
approach
right.
We
have
the
traffic
trailers,
we
have
speed
trailers,
we
have
the
sheriff's
office,
we
have
the
Marshal's
office.
We
have
traffic
calming
measures
as
far
as
the
the
speed
tables
and
everything
else,
I
I
think
we're
going
to
see
changes
and
I
think
we're
going
to
see
an
overall
decrease
in
the
speeds
through
town.
A
With
all
these
measures
going
to
effect,
as
I
said,
My
Traffic
accounts
have
gone
up
as
well
as
far
as
what
I'm
doing
for
vehicle
traffic
law
we're
trying
it's
not
going
to
happen
overnight,
but
I
definitely
think
it
was
going
to
start
seeing
some
good
results.
Well,
we
had
that
that
the
number
of
43
miles
an
hour
at
the
85
percentile
I
mean
hey
there,
there's
a
benchmark
to
start
from
okay.
Has
it
shown
that
once
a
year
once,
every
six
months,
we
got
to
do
something
like
that
and
see?
A
Are
we
moving
the
needle
but
I?
Think
anecdotally,
I,
don't
see
any
decrease
in
speed
in
town
I
mean
Michael
decrease
the
speeds
in
town,
no
I
shouldn't
say
the
speeds,
the
the
outliers,
the
ones
that
are
just
rocking
right
through
town.
Those
are
the
ones
that
they're
going
50
miles
an
hour
over.
I
A
And
30
during
the
last
week
of
bike
week.
E
A
B
I
have
to
say
the
the
biggest
number
in
terms
of
of
budgeted
expense
is
the
traffic
calming
devices
that
piece
of
the
pedestrian
traffic
safety
measure
was
the
speed
tables
and
the
crosswalks
that
are
the
lighting
that
went
with
it.
But
the
speed
tables
alone
were
part
of
the
traffic
calming
to
slow
the
speed.
A
A
You
I
think
the
rest
of
the
room
right
now
might
be
throwing
daggers
at
Uni,
but
I
look
I've
almost
been
clobber
walking
across
the
street
downtown,
so
I
I
get
the
there's
current
legislation
that
would
greatly
limit
any
ability
of
any
municipality
in
the
state
of
Arizona
to
have
any
traffic
enforcement
through
photo
radar
and
such
and
I
believe
the
mayor
would
probably
know
a
little
better
than
I.
Would
pardon
me,
but
I
do
believe
that
that
that
measure
does
have
some
pretty
serious
traction
right
now,
a
lot
of
people
like
photocop.
A
I
Mr
Kate
freak
has
a
rich
history
and
attempting
to
establish
his
own
constabulary
here
in
the
past,
and
when
you
hear
the
six
percent
increase,
is
the
computer
increases
and
subscription
increases?
Maybe
the
focus
should
be
to
try
to
renegotiate
the
relationship
with
the
sheriff's
office
for
the
services
provided.
It's.
I
It's
an
issue
that
I
and
others
faced
many
years
ago.
I
just
would
offer
a
cautionary
tale
against
a
cape
Creek
Police
Department,
you
have
a
fire
department.
I,
don't
know
that
you
want
to
go
to
a
Cave,
Creek
Police
Department.
If
you
want
to
augment
the
Marshal's
office
and
provide
additional
personnel
which
we
used
to
have
more
Personnel
in
the
past
assigned
to
that
position,
that
might
be
a
worthy
discussion
but
I.
There
is
many
many
reasons
that
I
think
I
would
suggest
a
more
cautionary
approach.
I
Besides
speed
enforcement
with
a
local
police
department-
and
maybe
I'll-
leave
it
for
here
until
we
get
into
a
work
session
on
the
on
the
topic,
but
it's
been
proposed
before
Ernie
was
nodding.
It's
been
tried
before
you'll,
never
get
the
quality
of
the
resources
that
you're
already
paying
taxes
for
to
Maricopa
County
government,
especially
they
try
to
split
six
ways
and
we
have
a
smaller
County
to
work
on
by
replicating
everything
up
here.
We
built
this
building
years
ago
to
provide
an
Annex
for
the
sheriff's
office.
I
We
used
to
have
the
court
over.
Here
that's
been
moved
to
Carefree.
We
have
I
think
the
jail
still
here
and
so
forth,
but
you
may
have
spoken
to
the
wrong
person.
You
may
have
not
taken
a
delegation
down
that
was
able
to
communicate
as
best
it
could,
but
we
in
a
town
of
6,
000
people
I,
think
we've
got
all
the.
I
We
can
afford,
and
that's
and
I
think
the
police
department
is
a
very
sobering
decision.
For
many
many
reasons.
This
is
a
town
that
imposed
an
ordinance
against
State
labor,
standing
in
front
of
the
Circle
K
and
lost
a
lawsuit
from
the
ACLU.
So
I
know
that
history
is
is
invisible
in
the
past,
but
I
would
just
offer
myself
as
a
resource
or
others,
including
the
manager
who's
been
here
for
many
years
and
can
give
you
the
history
of
some
of
the
problems.
Well,
that's
all
right.
A
A
So
anthem,
for
example,
is
not
Incorporated
and
they're
getting
theirs.
Just
with
their
property
taxes,
they
don't
pay.
The
extra
million
bucks,
no
I'm,
I'm
I
agree
with
you
100
we
have
and
I
have
no
intention
of
starting
police
departments,
but
but
I
do
want
to
solve
the
traffic
problem.
I'll
work
on
that.
I
A
Mayor
vice
mayor
members
of
council,
thank
you
for
having
us
here
tonight
here
to
kind
of
go
over
the
public
safety
foreign
emergency
budget,
which
is
pretty
new
to
the
the
town
we're
in
our
second
year.
So
so
there's
a
little
bit
to
compare
to,
but
not
not
that
much!
You
can't
go
back
that
far.
A
The
biggest
thing,
the
top
part,
is
the
stuff
that's
paid
for
for
me
in
the
town,
the
biggest
part
of
this
contract,
or
the
biggest
part
of
this
budget
is
the
Professional
Services
and
in
the
Professional
Services
is
where
our
contract
is
with
Daisy
Mountain,
foreign,
medical
and
also
in
that
is
the
dispatch
that
we
pay
for
Phoenix
each
year.
The
annual
dispatch
for
that
and
also
included
in
that
this
year
is
the
Professional
Services
that
we
signed
up
with
promo
Architects
to
do
the
design
of
the
fire
station.
A
That's
included
in
those
numbers
that
you
see
before
you.
You
see
that
the
the
for
top
number
goes
up,
205
thousand
dollars.
That
is
actually
less
than
that,
because
the
dispatch
for
last
year,
the
current
this
current
year,
was
not
for
some
reason
included
in
the
budget.
It
got
left
out,
but
we've
pretty
much
covered,
that
with
a
rebate
that
we
got
from
the
the
Wildland
fire,
some
of
the
Wildland
fire
stuff
that
we
didn't
have
to
pay
for
this
past
year.
So
what
makes
up
the
budget
for
the
Daisy
Mountain
is.
A
The
first
part
is
the
the
total
payroll
for
all
your
fire
Staffing,
which
is
three
captains:
three
Engineers
six
Advanced
life
support,
firefighters,
three
basic
life,
support,
firefighters
and
that
Staffing
comes
to
1.8
million
dollars
a
year
and
top
of
that
you
made
the
decision
last
time
when
we
put
all
this
together
that
you
wanted
extra
coverage
for
Wildland
Fire
season,
and
so
you
do
get
the
Wildland
Fire
season
and
last
year
it
was
a
whatever
I
have
it
here
last
year
was
a
hundred
and
one
thousand
dollars
808
and
again
anything
that
we
don't
spend
on
that
because
of
the
monsoon
or
anything
that
comes
up,
we
cut
those
off
early.
A
We
get
that
back,
get
that
rebated
back
to
us.
It
was
about
forty
thousand
dollars
this
year.
I
think
we
got
rebated
back,
but
next
year
again
we
have
126
days
at
880
a
day,
so
it
comes
out
to
111
000.
So
you
have
your
Primary
Staffing
for
your
24
7.
for
your
Medics
for
your
captains
and
engineers,
and
then
we
add
another
hundred
eleven
thousand
dollars
on
that.
So
the
total
fire
budget
for
Daisy
Mountain,
first
Wildland,
Staffing
and
firefighter
Staffing,
is
2.5
a
million
dollars
a
little
bit
more.
A
The
dispatch
is
estimated
at
seventy
seven
thousand
dollars
this
year
and
included
in
that
it's
broken
up
by
our
contract
by
our
governmental
agreement.
So
the
four
components
are
your
firefighter
Staffing,
your
Wildland,
your
vehicles
and
equipment
and
your
administrative
support,
our
administrative
support.
We
pay
one-sixth
of
their
administrative
costs
because
we're
one
of
six
stations
and
that's
16.6
percent.
So
that's
it's
just
the
formula
we
go
through
each
year.
We
take
the
mid-range
of
their
salaries
and
their
benefits,
and
we
put
it
together
and
we
come
up
with
these
numbers.
A
So
this
year
it
ended
up
coming
up
to
about
130
000
increase,
and
if
you
recall
last
year
there
was
very
little
of
any
increase
at
all
because
of
the
stuff
that
went
on
with
coven
and
because
of
some
of
the
issues
that
they
had
with
the
insurance.
We
paid
a
little
bit
extra
for
the
insurance,
but
we
did
not
increase
the
salaries
last
year
for
this
full
year
that
we're
currently
in
so
they
aren't
catching
up.
A
Just
a
little
bit,
the
rest
of
the
budget
I
looked
at
and
tried
to
pull
it
down
as
much
as
we
could
the
equipment
we
have
60
000
in
there
for
ongoing
equipment.
In
case
we
break
something
as
an
example.
A
heart
monitor
if
that's
on
the
engine
is
ours.
If
we
break
the
heart,
monitor,
that's
25
000,
just
for
our
heart
monitor,
so
we
have
to
have
some
money
in
the
budget.
In
case
we
break
some
of
that
equipment,
so
but
I
did
cut
that
down
from
60
to
30
000.
A
The
big
issue
for
us
and
we've
talked
about
this
before
is
the
capital
and
the
capital
that's
going
towards
the
fire
station
and
the
remodel
of
the
fire
station
to
build
out
of
that
and
I.
Think
mayor
to
one
of
your
earlier
comments
of
how
much
money
we
have
in
the
budget
or
in
the
savings
of
the
budget.
A
So
what
we've
done,
though,
is
we've
taken
that
money
we've
taken
our
budget
this
year
and
we're
doing
it
go
as
you
pay
Capital,
so
I'm
not
asking
to
get
that
money.
Yet
until
we
we
get
further
down
the
road,
so
we're
doing
pay
as
you
go
Capital,
not
we're
not
asking
to
take
that
out
of
the
savings
as
we
originally
had
had
budgeted
for.
A
A
E
A
We've
our
partners
with
Daisy
Mountain
have
worked
out
with
us
very
well
with
that.
Like
I
said
last
year
we
had
very
little
increase
if
at
all,
I
think
was
just
to
cover
insurance,
and
this
year
they
have
a
new
contract
with
their
firefighters
and
again
it's
a
as
when
we
set
this
up.
Initially
it's
a
formula
we
just
plug
in
the
numbers
and
that's
it's
what
the
formula
is
so
I
think
what
it
was:
a
total
increase
of
less
than
10
percent
so
for
this
year.
F
Okay,
mayor
and
Council
I
am
going
to
be
presenting
the
finance
budget
for
fiscal
year
2024
and
the
biggest
significant
change
in
finance's
budget
is
the
reduction
in
the
amount
for
all
the
audit
Services
line
and
that
that
budgeted
line
item
got
moved
from
Finance
into
town
council's
budget.
F
E
A
But
if
it
is
a
best
practice
throughout
the
world
for
the
the
auditor
to
work
for
an
audit
committee
at
the
highest
level
in
the
organization-
and
that
has
not
been
the
case
here
in
the
past-
and
so
it
I'm
going
to
have
a
a
council
item
to
bring
forth
a
proposal
to
do
that,
the
the
first
year,
what
I'd
propose
doing
and
I
I
have
I,
have
all
the
documentation
on
the
best
practices.
It's
in
business
is
just
standard
procedures.
A
First
year
accounts
a
committee
of
the
whole
so
that
the
auditor
would
work
for
and
report
to,
and
the
council
would
direct
the
auditor's
activities
with
the
with
our
current
auditor
and
then
perhaps
once
we
do
that
it
may
we
may
decide
to
make
changes
or
not,
but
that's
that's
all
in
the
future,
but
I
think
this
budget
has
that
staff
has
already
moved
on
that.
A
B
B
But
then,
after
the
audit
is
complete,
there
are
there's
a
presentation
and
questions
to
the
town
manager
about
whether
or
not
am
I
aware
of
any
fraud
and
any
you
know
the
the
usual
check
off
list
of
that
where
I
answer
yes
or
no,
yes
or
no
and
I'm
I
sign
off
on
that.
That
would
be
something
that
could
come
to
the
council
and
but
I'm
assuming
with
the
staff,
because
we
would
have
to
be
part
of
that
or.
A
B
A
The
council
would
have
more
involvement
right,
you'd,
be
at
an
opening
conference.
There'd,
be
meetings
that
come
in
a
report,
the
the
scope
of
what
they
plan
to
do
and
what
they've
done,
and
typically
in
audits,
there's
not
only
the
single
line
letter
that
says
we
found
no
material
problems
and
we
tested
things,
but
there's
in
audits
that
have
been
done.
I've
always
been
the
receiving
end
of
audience
I've,
never,
unfortunately,
but
there
was
always
a
separate
letter
that
went
up.
D
A
A
That's
yeah.
That
was
really
my
question:
yeah,
okay
and,
and
so
the
auditor
would
feel
like
they
are
working
for
us
auditing,
the
the
the
town
itself,
the
management
of
the
town
and
reporting
to
the
highest
body
in
the
town.
That
is
a
standard
practice
and
a
best
practice
by
every
organization
you
can
find,
and
so
it's
just
conforming
us
to
the
way
the
rest
of
the
world
operates.
B
So
that's
scheduled
for
the
first
meeting
in
May,
I
believe
for
the
committee
and
the
second
meeting
in
May.
The
auditor
will
be
here
to
speak
with
the
council,
and
that
is
when
the
council
would
authorize
the
mayor
to
sign
the
engagement
letter
so
he'll
have
that
prepared.
I
already
have
a
PowerPoint
presentation
from
him
that
will
come
to
council
about
what
they
do.
What
Their
charge
is
what
they
don't
do.
You
know
those
kinds
of
things
so
that
it's
all
presented
to
the
whole
Council
in
public.
F
Much
and
so
the
that
was
the
significant
change
in
the
finance
budget.
We've
got
Professional
Services
in
there.
That
represents
our
sales
tax
audits
that
are
performed
and
salaries,
of
course,
and
that's
about
it
for
finance
small
budget
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
guys
might
have.
A
The
utility
Specialists
billing
Specialists
have
they
moved
to
utilities.
They.
B
The
audit
Services
were
moved
into
the
budget
at
forty
five
thousand
dollars.
We
have
Professional
Services
of
25
000,
that
is,
for
the
council
to
decide.
How
is
is
that
enough
money
and
how
you
would
like
to
use
it
that
is
undesignated
at
this
point.
Employee,
training
and
memberships
are
for
the
council
meetings
and
training
such
as
the
League
conference
and
and
others
as
you
are
interested
at
fifteen
thousand,
and
then
we
have
the
community
grants
for
forty
thousand
dollars.
B
We
have
that
designated
to
the
museum,
but
there's
been
some
interest
in
having
a
little
different
process
at.
If
council
is
interested
in
that
for
the
community
grants,
and
then
we
also
have
we
are
in
discussions
with
the
library,
I'm
I'm,
not
sure,
yet,
if
the
library
needs
and
and
mutual
needs
between
the
town
and
the
library
is
best
suited
at
at
this
point
for
Community
grants,
we
need
some
additional
discussion.
It
might
be
better
served
in
an
agreement
because
they
have
some
needs.
B
I,
don't
know
what
their
ongoing
needs
would
be,
but
we
have
some
ongoing
needs
for
their
facility
and
the
use
of
their
roof,
and
things
like
that.
So
there
may
be
a
better
way
to
work
with
the
library
and
they
would
allow
us
to
do
certain
things
and
we'll
do
certain
things
for
them
and
and
it's
long-term
long-term
agreements
that
that
could
be
a
radio
tower
for
fire
in
the
future.
And
things
like
that.
So
we
have
a
list
of
things
and
they
have
a
list
of
things.
B
They
have
a
short-term
item
for
a
tower
that
they
took
down
and
they
would
like
a
flagpole
installed
and
so
I
have
a
quote
for
the
cost
of
the
flagpole
and
had
already
offered
installation
services
at
no
charge,
and
we
could
waive
the
cost
of
the
permit
they're
required
to
get
a
permit.
But
we
could
waive
the
fee
for
them.
B
So
this
some
negotiation,
if,
depending
on
the
cost,
I
I,
don't
know
what
the
cost
is
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
think
it's
nominal,
that
I
could
sign
off
on
that
and
that
those
kinds
of
things
could
come
out
of
these
funds,
but
we
probably
have
other
places
in
the
budget
that
we
could
cover
that
and
you
could
use
that
for
a
more
robust
program.
However,
you
Envision
it.
B
B
B
Merchants
Association,
and
so
we
gave
them
ten
thousand
dollars
and
they
would
use
that
money
towards
Wild
West
days
in
the
fall,
and
then
we
gave
ten
thousand
dollars
to
the
library
and
ten
thousand
to
the
museum
and
ten
thousand
to
the
rodeo
committee.
But
now
we
have
a
an
agreement
with
the
rodeo
committee
between
the
towns,
so
we
fund
it
through.
B
You
know
as
part
of
that
committee
agreement,
so
it
was
defined
as
functions
that
would
otherwise
in
in
larger
communities,
be
performed
by
the
local
governments
such
as
museums
and
libraries,
and
then
the
rodeo
and
Wild
West
days
were
unique
events
to
the
town
that
we
co-sponsored
and
and
funded
ten
thousand
each
that's
how
it
was
defined,
but
I
I
believe
you
wanted
to
broaden
that.
Well,
I
just
think
it's
time
to
to
reassess
how
we
distribute
government
funding
and
I.
Don't
think
it
should
be.
B
Carte
blanche,
I
think
we
should
have
a
small
committee,
that's
composed
of
a
staff
member
and
a
council
member
and
some
members
of
the
community
to
create
new
criteria
that
may
be
more
applicable
and
relevant
to
our
community
today,
and
not
necessarily
based
on
special
events,
because
we
should
have
a
separate
category
for
special
events
and
we
do
but
doesn't
have
much
money
in
it
and
I
and
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
I'm
not
opposing
any
funding
to
the
museum
but
I'm.
Just
saying
that
there
are
other,
very
beneficial
501c3s
in
this
town.
B
That
should
be
able
to
apply
for
a
grant
and
have
it
reviewed,
based
on
criteria
that
a
committee
has
developed
and
then
do
a
rating
and
I
have
led
that
type
of
a
committee.
My
entire
career
in
two
million
dollars
worth
40
000
is
nothing,
but
it
still
could
help.
It
still
could
be
dedicated
in
five
thousand
dollar
increments
to
eight
different
organizations.
If
that's
what
this
proposed
committee
decides
so
I
just
think
it
needs
to
be
reevaluated,
and
it's
time
it
hasn't
been.
B
That
would
be
good,
and
the
other
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
we
want
to
coordinate
with
the
other
organizations
who
are
giving
fun
like
the
rodeo
part
of
the
rodeo.
Is
that
that
committee
gives
back
to
the
community
and
grants
to
organizations.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
sharing
the
wealth
and
that
you
know
doubling.
B
B
I,
don't
know
all
of
them,
but
I
do
know,
that's
a
big
one.
So
Kiwanis,
you
know
they're
they're
doing
things
for
the
kids
all
over,
so
we
just
maybe
we
wanna
find
an
area
that
maybe
is
missed,
focus
on
some
areas
that
are
missed
and
make
sure
we're
not
duplicating
us
off
well,
and
that
would
be
through
the
criteria.
B
But
representing
different
groups
within
this
town,
but
the
the
dollar
amount
of
funding
is
that
okay
I
mean
we
can
as
long
as
the
funding
here,
we
can
work
on
the
criteria
and
still
move
forward
with
it,
or
do
you
think?
Well,
we
doubled
it
from
years
past.
It's
still
not
a
lot,
it's
that
overly
generous,
but
for
now
I'm.
Okay
with
it.
E
I
D
I
D
Before
each
meeting
and
turn
it
into
the
in
the
staff
and
then
we
can
cover
our
expenses
for
the
council.
A
E
A
And
you
know
it's
it's.
The
the
town
has
one
of
the
reasons
for
the
question
about.
Are
we
digestive
fire
department
is
because
we
took
on
something
that
just
isn't
look
at
Carefree
right
now
and
we
have
some
of
the
some
of
the
knock-on
effects
for
later
on
in
the
utility
budgets,
because
there
are
some
substantial
increases
there
to
help
pay
for
that.
But
you
know
the
town
really
needs
to
do
more
with
amenities.
A
We
need
to
get
away
from
just
surviving
and
being
a
a
great
big
utility
system,
with
a
really
small
government
attached
to
it
and
kind
of
change
that
around
over
time
and
2027
is
coming
up,
where
we're
going
to
have
where
the
those
with
loans
will
be
rolling
off,
and
will
it
be
better
in
my
shape,
so
I
think
it's
timely
and
I
think
we
ought
to
over
time
increase
this.
E
E
E
B
A
house
wouldn't
kind
of
go
over
the
highlights
of
Public
Works
and
then
we'll
get
into
the
special
revenue
and
the
special
Revenue
funds.
A
Good
evening
mayor
vice
mayor
and
Council
in
my
first
hour,
I
will
no
the
person.
So
we
have
we
divide
our
Public
Works
into
two
two
divisions:
engineering,
which
is
really
composed
of
three
Me
Myself
and
I,
and
then
a
couple
of
partial
people,
the
contracts
and
services
are
the
big
numbers.
We
budget
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
We
always
have
an
allowance
for
plan
review.
If
the.
If
we
cannot
get
it
done
in-house,
then
we
have
the
ability
to
to
ship
it
out
to
get
it
reviewed.
A
A
We
have
an
allowance
for
property
and
rights
survey
because
it
always
seems
that
we
come
up
and
we
need
to
determine
what
we
own.
We
have
an
update.
We
always
update
the
town
right
away
and
drainage
system,
mapping
that
we
have
set
aside
some
of
that
and
we
set
aside
contingencies
for
those
things
that
we
don't
really
know
what's
going
to
happen,
but
always
seems
to
always
seems
to
happen
with
the
engineering
all
right.
Any
questions
on
what
we
have,
what
we
budget
in
the
engineering
100
000
for
the
engineering
Public
Services.
A
A
This
is
primarily
if
we
have
to
do
like
one
of
the
things
that
we
pulled
this
year
was
We,
have
a
drainage,
repo,
a
drainage
study
from
Surrey
to
Carriage,
on
Black
Mountain
that
we
have
underway
to
do
to
come
up
with
what
are
the
quantities
of
flows
that
are
coming
down
those
streets,
those
four
streets,
so
we
can
identify
them
and
come
up
with
the
plans
for
addressing
those
drainage
items.
A
So
we
have
that
underway,
non-professional
Services.
When
we
put
out
plans
and
reports
we
have
at
times
we
have
legal
advertising
that
we
have
to
do,
and
then
our
we
have
a
very
small
budget
for
employee
training
and
memberships,
which
is
pretty
much
American
Society
of
civil
engineers
and
sometimes
National
Public
Works
Association.
A
Any
questions
on
the
engineering
budget,
okay,
roads.
This
gets
a
little
this.
This
number
gets
a
little
bigger.
We
budget
a
percentage
of
the
Town
Engineers,
the
Public
Works
director,
plus
one
supervisor
who's.
Now,
a
deputy,
Public
Works
director,
two
public
workers
level,
two
and
three
public
workers
level,
one
so
a
total
of
seven
people
or
six
and
a
quarter.
People
I
believe,
is
the
actual
number
on-call.
A
We
have
one
person
who's
on
call
24
7.
every
every
day.
Every
day
of
the
year
we
have
one
person
we
paid
25
a
day
and
the
utilities
also
have
that
same
on-call
relationship,
but
we
pay
somebody
to
be
on
call
every
day
of
the
year
and
that's
an
additional
pay
that
we
pay
overtime,
We've,
budgeted
ten
thousand
to
cover
the
needs
response
to
storm
we're
on
call
for
other
road
maintenance,
including
roadkill,
downed
trees,
Cactus
and
accident
cleaning.
A
Contracts
and
services
we
have
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
budgeted
that
our
expenditures
and
23
have
included
design
and
pedestrian
safety
and
Crossings
at
Hidden,
Valley
and
Hilltop,
and
design
of
a
pedestrian
safety,
Crossing
and
Rapid
rectangular
flashing
Beacon
at
the
road
house.
Those
are
undergoing
those
are
currently
happening.
A
We
will
bring
them
to
council
before
they
go
for
installation,
so
we're
trying
to
get
the
budgeted
designed
done
this
year,
we'll
bring
it
to
council
and
say:
okay,
we
have
the
design,
here's
what
it
is
we're
hopefully
going
to
that
they
it
will
one
improve
pedestrian
safety
and
also
because
it's
a
physical
barrier
at
three
locations
in
town,
we'll
slow,
the
traffic
down.
I
A
That's
a
different
signal
than
what
set
the
Roadhouse
now.
Yes,
it
would
be
a
much
much
larger
it'd,
be
a
much
larger
sort
of
a
standard,
rectangular
flashing
Beacon.
The
other
thing
that
will
happen
is
if
the
design
and
the
reason
we're
having
designed
is
because
of
drainage
issues
along
Cave.
Creek
Road
will
be
a
what
they
call
a
table,
a
speed
table,
so
it
comes
up
like
a
speed
bump
or
a
speed
hump.
A
Then
it
flattens
across
the
top,
and
then
it
goes
down,
and
so
those
are
being
designed
at
35
miles
an
hour
maximum,
so
that
40
miles
an
hour
somebody's
going
to
get
quite
the
Joel
that
they
hit
it.
So
we're
trying
to
cut
down
the
traffic.
This.
I
A
Flashing
sign
flash
both
ways:
yes,
it'll,
be
both
directions
so
that
you'll,
you
will
have
the
eastbound
traffic
seeing
a
flashing
and
the
westbound
traffic
finding
receiving
it.
You
know
there
are
three
people
that
appear
on
the
council
that
didn't
go
through
those
engineering
presentations,
I,
wonder
if
we
should
have
that
study
or
some
kind
of
familiarization.
We.
A
Were
all
kinds
of
this
wasn't
the
only
option
there
were
a
ton
of
options
presented
some
about
the
you
know,
parallel
parking,
we
were
talked
about
right.
There
was.
There
were
several.
There
were
several
items
that
were
presented.
What
we're
going
by
is
that
the
the
three
that
we're
doing
right
now
had
the
highest
benefit
cost
ratios
and
the
Roadhouse
Crossing
is
around
an
8.5.
A
You
know
for
every
dollar,
it's
worth
you
know,
for
every
dollar
we
spend
is
eight
dollars
and
fifty
cents
a
return.
So
it's
a
it's.
A
pretty
high
cost
benefit.
We
were
look.
We
were
trying
to
get
funding
for
mag
for
this
and
that's
why
we
and
we've
delayed
they
weren't
able
to
fund
it.
This
year
we
had
three
different
funding.
We,
these
are
the
three
projects
that
we
proposed
with
the
rectangular
flashing
Beacon
at
each
one.
We
can't
afford
three
rectangular
flashing
beacons.
A
About
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
I'm,
looking
at
you're,
looking
at
needing
an
extra
two
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars.
Well,
what
we've?
What
we
put
in
for
with
the
what
we
put
in
for
with
for
the
three
Crossings
the
speed
tables
with
all
the
administration
that
goes
with
having
a
basically
Federal
money
attached
to
it,
was
four
hundred
and
seventy
two
thousand
dollars
with
us
paying
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
design
cross.
A
I
A
Actually,
actually,
we
had
a
study
done
and
I
believe
that
that's
has
been.
Has
that
been
shared,
carry
or
not?
Oh,.
B
Before
options
for
the
yeah
for
the
warrant
right,
the
traffic
signal
was
one
option,
but
putting
installing
the
larger
stop
signs
with
the
larger
red
flashing
lights
met
the
warrant
at
the
time.
Yes,
and
that
was
a
choice.
I
You
know
it's
five
years
later,
I
just
still
would
like
to
agitate
on
the
issue
that
before
we
start
going
roundabouts
or
some
other
Urban
Design
for
the
small
downtown
area,
if
we
could
and
I
had
suggested
to
the
chair,
the
mayor
that
just
a
pilot
program,
we
saw
it
up
on
Carefree
Highway
with
the
water.
I
know
how
you're
opposed
to
it,
but
no.
I
I
Yeah,
so
I
just
wondered:
I
wanted
to
Labs
the
chair
privately,
that
if
we
did
a
test
of
a
fire
of
a
traffic
light
at
that
intersection
in
both
directions,
if
the
the
citizens
and
the
people
visiting
the
community
felt
that
it
was
ineffective
or
it
bothered
some,
then
you'd
have
an
answer.
But
if
you
take
your
because
I
worked
with
Engineers
before
here,
if
you
take
your
traffic
account
existing
today
in
2023
at
that
intersection,
you
are
way
above
traffic
flow
for
a
four-way.
Stop,
especially
a
four-way.
Stop
that's
not
enforced.
Ever
we.
I
I
Can
we
do
something
with
the
traffic
light
at
Schoolhouse
Road
to
see
if
it's
feasible
or
desired,
or
not
desired
or
whatever
Schoolhouse
Road
is
a
problem
and
I
know
everybody
knows
it's
a
problem,
but
it's
been
a
problem
for
a
long
period
of
time,
but
we're
just
one
fatality
away
from
that
becoming
a
reactive
decision
by
the
council
and
if
we're
spending
all
this
money
to
stop
traffic
on
raised
Platforms
in
three
locations,
how
can
we
not
do
anything
at
Schoolhouse
and
really
while
we're
on
the
topic
at
Spur
across
as
well?
Well,.
A
A
For
us,
what
we're
looking
at
doing
is
ensuring
that
we
put
in
those
first
the
reason
that
they're
we're
doing
the
three
platform
tables
is
that
combined
they
affect
the
one
is
that
hidden
one
is
at
Hidden
Valley
one's
at
the
roadhouse
and
one's
at
Hilltop,
which
is
about
where
Dairy
Queen
and
the
and
the
kiwanises.
So
we
end
up
with
3
Crossings
space
between
across
the
town.
A
We
still
have
the
stop
sign
at
a
Schoolhouse
so
but
you're
right,
the
traffic,
the
amount
of
traffic
that
we
have
would
warrant
a
traffic
light,
and
the
next
step
would
be
to
get
another
traffic
count
done
at
Schoolhouse
to
see.
If
we
want
to
do
that,
we
have
a
couple
of
issues
that
we
have
to
deal
with.
One
is
that,
right
now
we
are,
we
have
one
more
traffic
signal
that
we
can
put
in
and
still
be
under.
A
Our
IGA,
with
Maricopa
County,
for
the
maintenance
of
it
for
the
maintenance
and
operation
of
our
traffic
signals.
We
don't
do
that
internally.
We
have
a
IGA
with
Maricopa
County
to
maintain
our
traffic
signals
one
more
and
we
can
do
the
one
more,
but
after
that
they
cannot.
They
could
no
longer
service
us
and
we
would
have
to
bring
that
service
of
our
traffic
signal
maintenance
in-house,
which
we
are
not
equipped
to
do
right
now,
but.
I
A
I
C
A
There
are,
and
so
all
right
again,
the
odds
are
if
you
can
get
your
speed
down
to
20
one
out
of
ten
one
out
of
one
or
nine
out
of
ten
Will
Survive
a
20
mile
an
hour
you're
about
50
50
at
30
miles
an
hour
and
you're
only
about
one
out
of
10
are
going
to
survive
a
40
ml,
an
hour
crash
and
we're
we're
about
43..
So,
yes,
we
do
have
a
problem
and
we
recognize
that
the
question
is:
can
we
get
we're
gonna
and
we
we're
not
gonna?
A
Do
it
with
law
enforcement
because
they're
not
able
to
do
it.
So
we
have
to
come
up
with
physical
barriers.
What
I
normally
recommend
a
speed
table
on
a
minor
arterial
street?
It's
not
normally
done,
but
yet
it's
come
in
as
the
best
option
from
The
Pedestrian
safety
studies
that
we
had.
If
there's
no
nobody's
complaining
about
that,
I
mean
they
all
kind
of
agree.
That
needs
to
be
done.
A
We
can
revisit
the
we
can
have
the
safety
studied
or
that
traffic
count
study
that
we
had
done
and
the
warrant
study
that
we
had
done
for
the
street
light
in
2018
or
17
17..
Just
we
can
have
that
updated.
If
you
can
update
how
much
money
it
would
cost
per
stop
sign,
you
know
for
a
three-way
or
four-way
stop,
depending
on
the.
E
A
But
if
you
can
take
and
identify
that,
so
maybe
you
know
before
we
finalize
the
budget,
we
can
have
those
options
so
that
we
can
choose
to
fund
or
not
fund.
Yes,
as
long
as
we
don't
put
in
the
flashing
beacons
at
each
one,
the
like
we
have
at
Schoolhouse
now
with
the
36
inch
diameter
and
the
flashing
beacons.
Those
lights
are
about
ten
thousand
dollars
a
piece.
So
if.
B
D
A
So
so
there
are
all
kinds
of
study
and
let's
figure
out
what
the
right
amount
is
one,
let's
put
a
contingency
in
per
say,
you
know
whatever
that
might
be
if
we
have
to
do
four
or
five
different.
A
I
I
A
A
That
would
be
the
first
thing
that
we
would
do
is
get
an
engine
to
study.
Some
things
are
all
in
violent
agreement,
okay,
but
the
other
one
is.
How
are
we
going
fast
enough
in
these
two
things
like
this?
Is
all
of
council
comfortable
with
speed
tables
to
to
control
the
speed
and
the
fishing
Crossing.
A
A
Study
I
mean
I,
don't
oppose
speed
table
but
I'd
like
to
see
the
the
engineering
we
can.
Certainly
what
I
can
do
is
I
can
certainly
have
make
the
make
a
copy
and
have
a
copy
sent
out
to
all
the
council
members
of
both
studies
that
we
have
the
phase
one
and
the
phase
two
and
then,
if
we
need
to
have
a
session
or
if
the
three
people
haven't
seen.
This
thing
need
to
ask
questions
and
things.
A
We've
got
to
arrange
that
so
that
when
we
get
to
the
point
of
proving
things
we're
all
operating
from
the
same
information
as
they
looked
at,
they
looked
at
things.
The
other
items
they
looked
at
were
Road
diets,
where
they
would
take
out
where
they
would
take
out
one
lane
in
each
Direction.
So
you'd
make
Cave
Creek
a
one
lane
road,
so
you
could
have
part
parking
on
the
side,
so
that
was
looked
at,
but
that
would
be
all
all
time.
It
wouldn't
be.
A
Just
you
know,
on
bar
nights
or
whatever
there
were
other.
There
were
other
things
they
got
into
bike
lanes
and
things
like
that,
but
we
can
certainly
make
that
those
two
reports
available
how
fast
are
the?
How
fast
do
we
have
enough
money
to
do
all
three
speed
tables
expeditiously?
Yes
and
we're
hopefully
going
to,
depending
on
the
we're
having
the
design
done
now,
whether
I
can
get
them
done
by
July.
A
It's
probably
a
it's,
probably
a
two-week
period
to
get
them
in
as
long
as
I
can
get
the
paving
contractor
in
and
get
it
and
get
them
painted.
They're,
not
they're,
not
technically
hard.
A
The
rapid
flashing
Beacon
is
more
of
a
long
lead
item
that
we
have
to
determine
when
that
can
go
in,
but
it
doesn't
affect
the
speed
table.
I.
B
A
Will
I
will
quote
from
a
former
publisher
who,
when
we
put
up
the
when
we
put
up
the
you,
know
emergency
the
things
they're
slowing
us
down
too
much,
so
that
was
one
of
our
that
was
in
the
that
was
in
our
local
paper
that
we
were
slowing
people
down
too
much
so
you're
never
going
to
reach
100
agreements.
A
So
go
ahead,
okay,
so
we
have
the.
Then
we
have
the.
We
have
some
money
in
for
the
Consulting
on
the
pavement
management
plan,
Consulting
on
a
neighborhood
traffic
calming
plan.
A
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
is
that
we're
always
out
being
asked
to
go
out
and
measure
different
neighborhoods
and
the
amount
of
speed
going
through
those
neighborhoods
and
the
traffic
counts.
A
A
No,
it's
not,
it
would
be.
It
would
be
in
areas
where,
if
a
neighborhood
wanted
to
put
in
a
speed
bump,
that
would
be
one
of
the
things
that
would
there
are
certain
criteria.
We
would
set
the
criteria
we'd
set
measurable,
predictable
criteria
that
would
allow
allow
it
to
happen
and
at
what
level
the
town
pays
for
them
and
at
what
level,
the
community
that
agrees
to
pay
for
them,
the
community,
the
affected
community.
A
I
A
I
A
No,
their
speed
bumps
are
probably
going
to
be
50
50,
but
that's
why
the
criteria
has
an
agreement
level
that
has
to
be
met,
a
signed
petition
agreement
level
of
those
being
affected
and
then
a
agreement
to
pay
if
they,
if
they
meet
the
minimum
warrant,
but
they
don't
meet
the
they
don't
meet
the
ultimate
Warrant
Where.
The
town
would
come
into
pay
a
little
personal
story.
Rancho
Manana
just
went
through
this
whole
conversation
and
it
was
about
up
or
down
yes
and
by
one
vote.
We
do
not
have
speeches.
A
Yes,
like
I,
said
it's
about
a
50
50,
and
it
requires
more
than
that.
It's
why
I
love
Cave,
Creek,
okay
for
24
we
have.
The
hundred
thousand
is
right.
Now
update
53rd
Street
plans,
Arroyo
Road
right-of-way
acquisition
assistance,
because
we
have
a
small
piece
that
we
would
need
to
put
in
a
Royal
Road,
design
of
drainage
facilities,
Black
Mountain
and
other
locations,
pedestrian
safety,
design
and
then
miscellaneous
engineering
survey,
designs
and
studies
which
could
include
the
streetscapes
could
could
design
the
streetscapes
are
fairly
quick.
A
So
we
are
looking
at
options.
Some
of
them
are,
some
of
them
are
Cactus,
some
of
them
are
Cactus
based,
some
of
them
are
putting
the
ultimate
one
would
be
putting
Irrigation
in
the
medians,
but
we
have
no
irrigation
remaining
in
the
medians.
That
was
all
taken
out
many
years
ago.
A
So
the
question
is:
do
we
put
in?
Do
we
put
in
a
cactus
type?
Do
we
do
one
median
at
a
time
and
do
it
right
and
then
move
on
to
another
one
so
one
per
year?
These
are
options
that
we're
looking
at,
and
then
we
want
to
present
to
the
council
once
we
once
we
get
a
better
handle
on
it.
A
If
we
put
in
trees
that
would
need
irrigation,
and
that
also
is
a
use
of
water
that
we'd
have
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
water,
the
water
meters
and
everything
else
that
we
would
need
so
cutting
into
the
cutting
into
the
street
to
run
our
lines.
And
then
the
maintenance
of
the
maintenance
of
the
irrigation
systems
is
a
pretty
major
undertaking.
A
The
other
one
is
to
establish
Cactus
takes
about
two
years.
We
could
run
the
water
truck
in
and
make
sure
that
they
get
watered
on
a
schedule
as
an
interim.
But
again
that's
not
something
you're
going
to
do
with
a
with
a
tree
until
it's
established.
So
the
other
problem
that
we
have
currently
is
that
right
now,
I
don't
think
we
could
plant
anything
in
there,
because
our
maintenance
has
been
done
using
a
pre-emergent
and
a
weed
killer
type
of
application
so
that
anything
we
do
to
escape.
A
The
medians
is
going
to
need
to
be
an
excavation
and
an
import
type
of
application.
So
we
would
like
to
finish
looking
at
these
options,
run
them
by
a
couple
of
experts
in
what
we
can
do.
You
know
reasonably
and
then
get
back
to
council
with
that.
Could
we
also
do
something
to
take
a
look.
I
know
as
councilman
Arlington,
as
mentioned
before,
there
are
gas
lines
that
run
parallel
to
the
street.
A
A
E
A
A
We
don't
have
a
line
item,
but
the
streetscaping.
We
that's
right
now,
it's
under
miscellaneous
engineering
under
the
projected
expenditure
for
the
design,
and
then
we
do
not.
We
will
work
out
a
item
for
the
implementation
of
it.
B
A
That
would
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we're
that
we're
looking
at
again,
we
have
one
median,
that's
maintained
and
sponsored
by
Desert
Foothills
Landscaping,
and
they
they
are
the
one
right
in
front
of
their
offices
and
it's
actually
a
pretty
nice
looking
medium,
but
at
the
same
time
it
doesn't
meet
some
of
the
criteria
that
other
people
in
Cave
Creek
want,
which
is
a
more
natural
medium
and
not
you
know
it
has
more
of
the
Disney
desert,
features
that
some
people
don't
like.
A
So
again,
it's
a
mixture
between
you
know
between
a
rugged
and
planted,
and
you
know,
and
then
you
know,
other
type
of
materials.
So
again
we
need
a
criteria
that
we
want
to
meet
and
that's
part
of
what
we
want
to
present
to
the
council.
Well,.
B
B
Probably
the
landscaping
companies
in
our
town
would
be
amenable
to
helping
us
control
those.
Yes,.
B
E
A
Rocks
we
have
plenty
of
rocks
or
Boulders
there.
Those
are
things
that
could
be
could
be
used.
But
again,
some
of
the
items
that
we
that
we
look
at
is
traffic
safety
and
we
had.
Third,
we
just
replanted,
33
cactuses,
one
of
our
landscape
companies
did
it
for
us,
and
we've
already
lost
three
of
them
to
motorists.
I
don't
think
we'd
lose
a
boulder.
A
Them
when
we
find
out
who
did
it,
then,
then
we
do
go
after
their
right
now.
We're
right
now
we're
trying
to
replace
a
welcome
to
Cave
Creek
sign.
D
A
A
Non-Professional
Services,
we've
included
an
allowance
for
temporary
labor
drug
testing
and
fees
for
permits
in
other
agencies,
including
desk
control,
maintenance,
repair
and
patching
of
Pavements
and
concrete
in
the
non-hurf
areas
include,
includes
costs
to
Maricopa
County
for
maintenance
of
the
traffic
signals
that
we
have
to
pay
every
year.
A
It's
about
30,
35,
000
that
we
have
to
pay
to
Maricopa
County,
one
signal:
no
for
our
five
five
okay
for
our
five
signals
to
replace
bulbs,
adjust
the
cones
and
everything
else,
equipment
leases,
25
000-
that
includes
13
1300
per
month
for
the
video
monitoring
of
32nd
Street,
leaving
to
co,
leading
to
Cahaba
Springs,
where
we
put
the
gate
up,
and
we
did
that
for
the
neighbors
that
were
out
there
that
were
complaining
about
and
the
potential
for
fire
by
people
going
up
there.
A
So
we
put
up
the
gate
and
then
they
were
going
around
it.
So
we've
got
a
video
monitoring.
We
paid
1300
a
month
for
the
video
monitoring
it
notifies
the
sheriff's
office.
If
somebody
goes
in
there,
so
it
works
out
well
and
then
rental
of
other
equipment
that
we
need
for
individual
projects
that
are
owned
by
the
town,
employee,
training
and
memberships,
not
really
a
lot
just
to.
We
have
to
do
storm
water
management,
safety
and
first
aid
supplies
includes
the
normal
and
seasonal
supplies.
A
It
includes
our
dust
palliative,
which
has
gone
up
considerably
our
road
lock,
which
is
twelve
thousand
per
load
that
which
is
applied
four
to
five
times
per
year
and
runs
about
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
a
year.
Now
for
our
dust,
palliative
for
our
unpaved
roads,
weed
spray
and
pre-emergent
about
nine
thousand
dollars
per
application
currently
and
we're
doing
about
three
applications
a
year.
So
it's
about
twenty
seven
thousand
of
that
130
in
supplies,
Fuel
and
oil.
Anyone
who
put
gas
in
the
tank
knows
that's
going
up
until
right.
A
Now,
we've
budgeted
forty
two
thousand
dollars
for
that
for
the
next
year,
based
on
the
first
seven
months
of
the
year
and
that's
basically
the
major
items
except
for
the
capital.
A
Yeah,
so
that
includes
the
that
includes
the
53rd
and
Barbie
Hidden
Valley
and
there's
a
list
of
projects
that
we
plan
on
doing
again.
After
our
meeting,
we
decided
to
try
and
make
the
try
to
squee
finish
the
finish:
the
Capital
Improvements
by
2026.
So
we
squeezed
them
into
to
finish
by
2026.
A
and
that's
running
about
including
her
around
1.9
million
a
year.
A
Millings,
if
we
get
millings,
we
can.
We
are
currently
the
millings
that
we
just
used
on.
Morningstar
were
actually
compliments
of
the
town
of
Carefree.
A
E
A
Part
of
the
problem
we
have
on
spur
crosses
part
of
it
was
Chip
sealed
and
that's
that's
what's
breaking
down
in
our
in
our
we,
it
won't
adhere,
so
the
millings
don't
adhere
to
the
chip
seal.
So
we
may
have
to
get
that
re-chips
any
questions
on
the
on
the
projects
that
we
have
and
they
were
identified
within
the
pavement
management
plan
that
we
had
done
in
August
of
2020..
A
D
A
Yes,
it's
it's
the
size
of
work,
it's
the
size
of
length
identified
within
the
study.
What
I
did
was
I
took
whatever
they
had
in
here
and
then
realized
that
they
left
out
things
like
mobilization.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
bundle
The,
Edge,
Mill
and
Paving
together.
So
we
only
pay
one
mobilization:
okay,
yeah,
but.
F
How
I
think
the
Highland
Road,
the
other
part
of
that
I,
think
that's
96
000
is
included
in.
A
B
A
E
A
A
So
Mr
Mayor
vice
mayor
members
of
council.
Typically,
we
also
have
a
homecoming
parade.
I,
don't
know
what's
going
on
with
ccusd,
but
they
didn't
have
their
parade
this
year.
But
from
what
I
understand
it's
coming
back
online,
so
we
do
budget
for
it.
Obviously
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
say
no
we're
not
gonna.
A
B
I
B
A
F
Okay,
mayor
and
Council,
just
to
summarize
quickly
the
where
we
are
ended
up
on
the
general
fund,
the
legal
expenditure
limit
for
the
general
fund
that
was
adopted
with
the
fiscal
year
23
budget
was
15
million,
314
700.,
which
included
expenditures
and
transfers
out
what
we
are
proposing
for
fiscal
year.
24
preliminary
budget
that
staff
has
put
together
for
today
is
17
million
four
hundred
and
six
thousand
eight
hundred
and
eighty
one
dollars.
F
So
the
difference
that
we
have
between
where
we
were
last
year
and
23
and
where
we
are
today
for
24,
is
a
positive
difference
of
two
million
ninety
two
thousand
one
hundred
and
eighty
one
dollars
of
which
that
that
difference
is
represented
by
an
additional
1.1
million.
Seven
hundred
six
thousand
six
hundred
dollars
in
public
works
for
Road
improvements
and
an
additional
860
000
in
the
fire
station
Capital
expenditures
in
24.
F
those
two
total
the
two
two
million
thirty
thousand
six
hundred
dollars,
which
represents
the
majority
of
the
difference
between
where
we
are
between
23
and
24..
Any
questions
on
that.
F
F
F
We've
got
five
special
Revenue
funds.
The
first
one
is
perf,
which
is
the
highway
user
Revenue
fund.
F
And
for
this
fund,
we've
got
vehicle,
license
tax
that
comes
in
as
revenue
for
this
fund
and
we
have
budgeted
Capital
Improvements
for
roads
for
five
in
the
amount
of
596
thousand
dollars.
F
We've
set
aside
the
10
percent
contingency,
that's
required
by
Town
Financial
policies
of
thirty,
eight
thousand
nine
hundred
and
thirty
eight
dollars,
and
we
are
there's
been
some
fund
balance
that
has
not
that's,
remained
in
the
her
fund
and
we're
putting
that
to
use
also
in
2024
for
our
roads
and
projects
that
are
coming
in
24
to
zero
back
out
the
perf
fund
balance.
Because
what
comes
into
her,
we
should
be
spending
we've
just
not
spent
all
of
that.
F
and
then
in
the
capital
expenditures.
Summary
box
on
the
herf
page
are
the
projects
that
are
slated
to
be
spent
with
her
funds
in
24.
F
Any
questions
on
perf,
okay,
the
next
special
Revenue
fund,
is
the
spur
cross
fund
and
with
this
fund,
we've
got
the
absent
sales
tax.
That's
coming
in,
we've
got
216
000
budgeted
for
Maricopa
County
to
run
the
park
for
us
and
our
transfers
out
of
spur
cross
to
zero
spur
cross
fund
out
with
the
hundred
thousand
going
to
trails
in
the
general
fund
and
the
remaining
balance,
getting
split,
half
to
general
fund
and
path
to
the
water
infrastructure
fund,
which
takes
furcross
to
an
ending
fund
balance
at
zero
as
well.
F
Nope:
okay,
the
next
special
Revenue
fund,
is
the
parks
and
trails
fund.
F
This
is
an
older
fund
that
was
I,
think
funded
by
the
development
impact
fees,
which
we
do
not
do
anymore.
These
are
leftover
funds.
These
are
being
budgeted
in
24
to
be
spent.
Our
leftover
funds
and
this
fund
will
go
away
after
fiscal
year.
24.
A
B
B
B
E
F
Next
special
Revenue
fund
is
the
open
space
acquisition
fund.
This
this
fund
has
a
fund
balance.
That's
in
it.
The
expenditure
that's
shown
estimated
for
2023
was
the
purchase
of
the
30
Acres
it's
per
cross
for
this
year,
the
current
year
for
fiscal
year,
23,
there's
nothing
budgeted
to
be
spent
in
this
fund
for
fiscal
year
24.
F
and
the
estimated
balance
that's
to
be
remaining
at
the
end
of
23
rolling
into
24
is
a
million
four.
Oh
two,
six
thirty,
seven.
A
So
I
have
a
question
on
the
the
state
land
the
the
land
State
still
owns
that
we've
annexed
right.
We
have
that
annexation
agreement.
My
understanding
is,
we
have
to
buy
that
open
land
correct.
It's.
B
B
It's
in
May,
one
of
the
made
meetings
we're
going
to
go
over
that,
but
the
whole
the
whole
issue,
with
oh
the
facts
about
that
land,
but
we
have
the
first
right
to
purchase
it,
but
if
we
don't
purchase
it,
we.
B
I
I'm
going
to
have
Luke
talk
to
the
because
he
has
all
the
details
on
that
on
Thursday.
You
can
talk
about
that
separately
from
that,
though,
even
though
nothing
is
budgeted
to
spend
this
year,
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
if
an
opportunity
presents
itself
that
we
couldn't
use
some
of
these
funds
correct,
you
would
have
to
use
expenditure
Authority
from
within
the
budget
as
it's
adopted.
E
B
So
we
knew
that
there
was
an
estimated
cost,
so
we
budgeted
for
that.
That's
foreign.
B
C
F
Different
grants
that
we've
budgeted
for
related
to
General
government,
the
first
one
is
the
lottery
funds
that
we
then
turn
around
and
remit
to
Foothills.
Hearing
Corps.
F
Clark
yeah
and
there's
400
000
in
for
a
grant
that
Hal
we'll
be
applying
for
related
to
the
mag
pedestrian
traffic
safety
study.
There's
the
70
000
to
the
Arizona,
State
Parks,
grant
for
trails
and
I
think
that's
for
sorry,
and
then
we
put
in
community
grants
in
there
as
well
as
some
miscellaneous
grants,
and
that
is
we
put
that
in
to
appropriate
for
it
in
case
those
grants
become
available
for
us
to
apply
and
we
actually
do
receive.
F
We
have
expenditure
authority
to
to
use
them,
but
that's
a
net
in
and
out
revenues
and
expenditures
to
zero
in
the
grant
fund.
Any
questions
on
France.
H
C
F
So
the
first
capital
Improvement
fund
is
the
Cape
Creek
Water
infrastructure
fund.
This
is
the
the
fund
that
receives
the
half
of
what's
left
in
the
spur
cross
fund,
half
of
it.
We
do
the
hundred
thousand
out
the
other
half
goes
to
general
fund
and
the
second
half
goes
to
the
water
infrastructure
fund.
So
that
is
the
money
coming
into
this
fund
and
there
are
we've
budgeted,
no
expenditures
out
of
this
fund
for
use
in
2024.
F
But
this
is
the
fun
too,
that
money
comes
out
of
if
Cave
Creek
Water,
it
runs
in
the
deficit.
This
is
the
fund
that
would
transfer
to
Cave
Creek
Water,
but
for
fiscal
year
24
Cave
Creek
Water
is
in
the
black,
so
transfer
will
be
estimated
to
be
made
any
questions
on
water
infrastructure
fund.
F
And
then
the
last
Capital
Improvement
project
fund
is
the
open
space
and
trails
development
impact
fee
fund.
This
is
a
this
is
leftover
monies
similar
to
the
other
one
for
the
development
impact
fees,
there's
12
366
dollars
of
funds
remaining.
Those
are
proposed
to
be
budgeted
in
fiscal
year.
24
and
again
those
will
be
spent
in
24,
and
this
fund
will
go
to
zero
and
go
away.
F
G
I
need
to
start
off
by
he's.
Talking
about
the
the
utilities.
Department
has
still
continued
our
focus
on
on
working
on
preventative
maintenance.
Sadly,
we're
still
having
to
deal
with
a
lot
of
unplanned
repairs
in
the
system,
and
but
that
is
something
that
is
actually
lessened
since
I've
been
here
in
the
four
years
I've
been
to
the
town,
we've
had
some
as
a
Kerry
indicated
at
the
beginning.
We've
had
some
staffing
challenges.
This
year,
we've
had
a
couple
of
projects
that
we've
had
to
delay
and
not
get
up
to
speed,
not
get
done.
G
Just
because
we've
had
Staffing
changes,
which
meant
staff
new
staff
members
had
to
get
up
for
speeds.
We
weren't
be
able
to
get
some
stuff
I'm
going
to
talk
about
just
in
general,
something
with
one
of
the
specific
funds.
So
we,
the
Carefree,
disconnect
work
just
give
Council
an
update
is
near
incompletion.
The
next
big
cutover
will
be
April
20th,
that's
going
to
involve
about
150
customers.
So
after
that
cut
over
there'll
be
515.
G
Customers
of
the
550,
if
have
been
cut
over
so
the
last
few
months,
will
last
few
will
actually
take
the
longest
time
as
as,
if
you've
been
on
Cave
Creek,
Road
you'll
notice,
the
crossings
actually
occurring
north
of
Carefree
Highway
are
are
being
done
to
provide
the
commercial
Development,
Across,
The,
Street,
Lowe's,
CVS
and
historic
quests
with
their
new
services
and
there's
actually
three
other
Crossings
planned
north
of
there.
To
finish
off
the
disconnects.
G
We
are
working
with
the
city
of
Phoenix
interconnect
funding.
We
actually
have
a
project
meeting
with
wifa
with
a
board
meeting
next
week,
so
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
that
doing
the
requests
to
get
the
funding
put
in
place
for
that.
We
continue
to
have
a
focus
on
overall
Water
Resources,
part
of
that
that
we've
started
the
integrated
master
plan,
so
we're
looking
at
all
all
the
systems.
G
It's
not
just
the
water
system,
the
delivery
system,
but
we're
looking
at
waste
water
and
Water
Resources
in
general
and
reclaiming
the
water
in
the
system,
and
we've
done
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
projects
this
year.
A
lot
of
stuff
actually
got
done
at
the
wastewater
treatment
plant.
The
inlet
screens
grants
are
the
great
unit,
the
aeration
system
and
then
I'll
get
into
the
specifics
on
desert
or
we'll
start
with
Wastewater
fund
40.
G
and
you'll
notice.
As
we
go
through
it
there.
Some
of
the
employee
tables
just
adjusted
a
little
bit.
We've
been
tweaking
as
I've
been
here
just
some
of
the
differences
between
where
we
charge
our
staff
to
just
minor
things,
but
one
of
the
biggest
things
you'll
see
in
all
the
funds
is
actually
the
Wastewater.
The
Personnel
costs
have
gone
up,
as
was
indicated
at
the
beginning
of
the
session.
G
You
know
it's
been
challenging
to
keep
and
retain
staff
and
find
staff,
and
we
actually
had
to
do
things
like
adjust
our
rates
in
order
to
make
ourselves
competitive
with
the
market
right
now.
So
with
that
on
the
Wastewater
side
in
the
Personnel
costs
have
gone
up
where
she
had
some
loss
in
staff
this
year.
So
that's
partly
why
we're
below
budget,
but
that's
because
we
we
had
savings.
Sadly,
because
we
were
had
vacancies.
G
Before
this
fiscal
year
we
actually
had
hired
Consultants
on
the
Wastewater
side,
we're
actually
I
currently
have
Consultants
hired
on
the
on
the
water
side.
We've
lost
two
staff
members
that
are
the
water
treatment
plant,
so
we've
had
to
you
know
we're
getting
close
to
the
summer
times.
We've
actually
brought
consultants
in
and
contractors
to
help
fill
the
voids
that
we
have
so
as
we
recruit.
So
so
it
has
been
a
challenge
for
us
and
trying
to
figure
out
the
contract
mechanisms
Etc
that
we
need
to
put
in
place.
G
You'll
see
that,
especially
on
the
water,
Cave
Creek
Water
side,
the
the
other
Professional
Services
costs
this
year
has
gone
up
considerably,
because
that
was
how
we
were
paying
for
the
contractual
services.
G
Interested
question
specifically
I've
worked
in
a
in
a
used
when
I
was
in
city
of
Peoria.
That
was
a
unionized
group,
but
avidale
we
were
not
so.
G
Yeah
I
wish
I
knew
what
that
was
playing
a
couple
of
things.
You
might
see
some
new
things
that
we've
added
to
all
three
Enterprise
funds
as
we
go
through
the
contract,
services
and
commodities,
professional
Attorney
Services.
We
added
as
a
specific
line
item
that
slows
you.
You
know
we're
paying
for
Michelle
Vanquis
and
Bill
Sims
as
we
deal
with
stuff
moving
forward.
We've
added
that
as
a
separate
wine
item
before
it
was
just
getting
wrapped
up
in
Professional
Services,
we
broke
out
computer
software.
G
We
have
specific
software
needs
in
the
utilities
department,
so,
while
General
software
is
paid
for
out
of
the
general
fund,
we
pay
for
things
like
the
the
scada
software.
We
have
the
underwear
programs
win911,
which
is
the
dial
out
system.
So
each
of
the
Enterprise
funds
has
its
own
licensing
and
so
in
server.
So
we
actually
have
to
pay
the
fees
on
that.
We
also
have
a
mission
mission,
scada
system,
which
is
on
top
of
especially
the
Cave
Creek
Water
sites.
So
we
pay
for
you
for
fees,
for
that.
G
So
you'll
see
that
broken
out
because
it
used
to
be
paid
for
it
out
of
subscriptions.
So
we
moved
that
into
specific
line
item
and
another
thing.
That
was
something
we
did
to
actually
trying
to
help.
Retain
staff
you'll
see
a
Transportation
mileage
reimbursement
line
item,
so
what
we
were
finding
is
people
were
being
put
on
call
as
as
Hal
indicated,
we
have
four
on-call
people
at
all
times
in
utilities
and
when
they
got
called
back
in,
they
would
actually
have
to
come
in.
G
We
don't
allow
staff
members
to
do
take-home
Vehicles,
so
We've
now
allowed
them
to
charge
the
the
federal
per
diem
rate
for
mileage,
so
they,
when
they
get
brought
back
in
they're,
using
a
personal
vehicle
they're
getting
compensated.
We
had
a
case
where
a
supervisor
actually
got
called
in
on
a
Saturday
for
three
separate
on
calls
and
they
they
lived
on
the
outskirts
of
the
one
mile
or
the
one
hour
limit
for
us,
so
they've
spent
six
hours,
driving
back
and
forth
all
day
long
with
no
compensation.
G
You
know
with
the
gas
prices,
so
that's
something.
We've
done.
We've
also
tried
to
increase
things
like
the
closing
allowance
that
we
give
to
our
our
staff
members
again
little
little
perks,
that
we
can
do
to
help
help
staff
members,
hopefully
retain
them
too.
G
So
if
there's
any
specifics,
I
know
we're
running
long
here,
I'll
point
out,
but
there's
nothing
in
the
Wastewater
fund.
Right
now
we
are
going
to
be
in
the
in
the
red
a
little
bit.
There's
gonna
have
to
be
a
transfer
in
we.
We
talked
about
that
when
we
did
the
rate
model
last
year
and
got
that
adopted
that
it's
going
to
take
a
few
years.
G
I
think
it
was
projected
to
take
to
four
the
five
years
of
the
rate
study
to
actually
get
us
to
the
point
where
we're
breaking
even
in
the
operation
of
the
system,
but
we're
starting
to
move
that
direction.
So,
in
addition
to
that,
we're
we're
moving
ahead
with
a
pretty
aggressive,
Capital
program
and
repair
program
on
the
system.
Overall,
we're.
G
Not
that
many,
so
it
really
comes
down
to
the
the
available
the
sewer
lines
and-
and
you
know,
to
be
forced
people
and
that's
something
we're
actually
going
to
discuss
with
the
master
plan.
Is
you
know?
How
can
we
either
encourage
people,
or
can
we
start
extending
through
extending
lines?
Then
you
you
require
them
to
connect.
It's
actually
coming
up
as
part
of
our
Water
Resource
discussions,
because
in
a
lot
of
municipalities,
they
can
rely
on
the
reclaimed
water
from
the
effluent
treated
effluent
as
actually
a
water
resource.
G
You
know
most
of
our
water
for
both
of
our
water
systems,
especially
Desert
Hills,
where
we
have
no
collection
system
on
the
TA
freak
system.
You
know
we
have
once
the
disconnects
down
we'll
have
about
2
400
customers
on
the
Water
System,
but
we
only
have
900
that
are
actually
on
the
Wastewater
system
are
turning
water
to
us.
So
it's
a
one
way
for
us
for
the
Water
Resources.
So.
G
Yeah
I'll
I'll
just
take
this
time
to
point
out
a
few
things
like
things
like
our
Professional
Services
that
helps
pay
for
right
now,
we're
using
it
for
well
in
the
Wastewater
water
fund
to
pay
for
some
operational
sports,
but
we
that
pays
for
our
lab
fees.
We
don't
have
certified
Labs.
We
actually
have
to
bring
it
outside.
We
have
a
company,
EMS
they've
been
doing
our
mapping
systems,
we
actually
pay
for
it
out
of
that
and
we
pay
for
our
adeq
fees.
G
Out
of
that
this
year
we
expect
the
ELC
the
aps
rates
have
gone
up,
so
it's
10,
starting
January,
24th,
January,
2024
and
then
sites.
For
that
you
know
we
do
have
a
increase
in
our
risk
assessment
insurance
that
was
10
this
year.
So
we
pay
a
proportional
share
of
that,
but
nothing
major
I
think
right
now
we're
trying
to
you
know
to
do
a
good
job
with
what
we
have.
It's
really
the
staff
resources
have
gone
up.
G
B
F
Yeah
and
just
to
quickly
summarize
Wastewater
in
the
fun
summary.
That's
on
the
the
bottom
of
the
second
page.
The
operating
revenues
include
for
fiscal
year.
The
2023
estimated
include
the
new
rates
for
the
second
half
of
fiscal
year,
23
that
Council
passed
in
December,
the
beginning
of
December
and
the
24
proposed
budget
includes
a
full
year
of
the
new
rates.
F
So
the
revenue
is
estimated
or
proposed
for
the
budget
at
3.4
million
dollars.
We've
got
total
expenditures
coming
out
of
proposed
to
come
out
of
4
million
331,
which
leave,
which
then
leaves
Wastewater
in
the
red
865
661
dollars.
So
that's,
what's
requested
to
be
transferred
in
from
the.
C
G
Okay,
so
we'll
move
on
to
Cape
Creek
wash
this
unless
there's
any
questions
on
the
Wastewater
system.
G
So
we'll
start
off
with
sort
of
the
bad
news
is
with
the
loss
of
customers
moving
forward.
We
actually
last
year's
budget.
We
didn't
account
for
any
revenues
because
it
was
two
years
ago
that
we
actually
did
a
settlement
with
Carefree,
but
we
are
losing
about
19
of
our
customer
base,
but
part
of
that
was
adjusted
for
when
we
did
the
rate
study
this
this
last
year
that
got
passed
by
Council.
So
it
is
reducing
our
overall.
G
The
water
demands
for
the
summer,
which
is,
is
one
nice
idea,
I'll
take
from
that,
because
our
actual
our
cap,
water
costs,
are
going
up
and
sort
of
our
electrical
costs
in
the
system.
But
it's
it's
a
big
hit
having
losing
the
revenue,
but
we
actually
are
sort
of
balancing
that
out
with
the
rates
that
are
Council
has
adopted.
G
Right
now,
the
wheel
agreement
still
in
place.
Carefree
has
not
made
a
request
for
next
year.
Right
now
so
well,
you
know
we
do
anticipate,
because
there
actually
is
an
interconnect
site
that
has
been
built
as
part
of
the
disconnect.
It
got
moved
up
to
the
new
border
on
Bella
Vista
and
Cave
Creek
Road,
so,
but
we
it
did
anticipate
that
there
was
going
to
be,
or
is
it
shows
up
in
the
revenue
stream.
G
Yeah
is
a
water
usage
Carefree
support
line
down
if
we
do
move
forward
with
Wheeling,
that's
where
that
will
show
up
in
the
future.
G
Similar
story
on
Personnel
costs,
the
the
the
cost
the
positions
have
gone
up,
so,
as
we've
been
filling,
we've
had
to
increase
the
we've
had
to
adjust
a
few
ranges
as
we've
gone
out
and
done
recruitments,
so
we
built
into
the
proposed
budget,
not
only
the
the
cost
increased.
It
was
talked
about,
By
Kerry,
but
actually
also
in
Curious
ranges
for
to
us
to
entice
and
retain
staff
members.
So
that's
just
something:
we've
had
to
deal
with
as
we've
had
vacancies
and
we've
looked
out.
G
Even
it's
only
been
about
18
months.
Since
we
did
the
the
salary
survey
we
found
that
we've
already
fallen
behind
in
some
cases
and
a
lot
of
other
jurisdictions
were
all
fighting
for
the
same
pool
of
people,
the
same
pool
of
licensed
operators.
So
we
we
thought
we
were
doing
well
on
actually
growing
some
of
our
own
in
that,
when
the
plant
was
reclassified
a
few
years
ago,
our
water
treatment
plant,
we
actually
retained
some
staff
and
allowed
them
time
to
actually
get
their
certifications.
Sadly,
as
soon
as
they
became
certified,
they
left.
G
So,
even
though
we
gave
them
rate
increases
there,
they
leveraged
that
noise,
another
municipalities.
So
that's
one
of
the
issues
that
we're
dealing
with
and
that's
why
you'll
see
the
Professional
Services
and
their
contracts
and
services
this
year
has
is
we're
over
budget,
because
that's
where
we're
paying
for
the
contractual
services
to
help
us
out
to
keep
the
system
running,
especially
on
the
water
side,
the
Water
Street
inside
electrical
has
gone
up
so
there's
a
small
rate
increase
about
half
a
Year's
worth
of
rate
increases.
G
Just
trying
to
look
at
this
is
some
significant
things
in
general.
We're
just
trying
to
to
keep
the
status
quo.
We
obviously
do
have
a
revenue
stream
that
is
dipping
because
of
the
loss
of
customers,
but
then
we
have
also
increased
the
rates
which
help
offset
that,
but
in
general
we're
in
good
shape,
I
think
in
Cave,
Creek,
Water
System.
So.
A
G
The
cost
loss
is
really
yeah,
so
it's
two
factors:
Because
the
actual
cost.
The
water
has
gone
up
per
acre
foot,
so
we
pay
two
fees
for
when
we
CIP
water
we
actually
paid
for
the
the
capital
charges
on
all
the
water
and
then
the
delivery
water.
So
up
till
last
year
we
actually
didn't
take
all
our
water
and
deliveries
because
a
lot
of
it
went
by
so
now
we
started
banking.
G
G
Not
it
is
so
we've
budgeted
for
this
full
year
of
all
the
allocation
right
now
our
allocation
has
dipped
down.
We
used
to
have
the
2606
acre
feet
of
Municipal
industrial
water,
we're
now
at
2228
acre
feet,
but
we're
actually
capturing
it
with
this
current
fiscal
year
because
the
transfer
occurred
actually
just
about
a
month
or
so
ago.
We
worked
with
carefree
and
carefree
said,
since
they
didn't
need
all
that
water.
They
would
allow
us
to
bank
it,
so
we
actually
banked
a
little
bit
more
than
we
anticipated
this
year.
G
So
that's
what's
included
in
this
year's
budget
next
year
we
still
have
to
pay
that
Mongolian
Capital
charge,
but
it's
not
much.
It's
only
like
30
or
40
dollars
per
acre
foot
to
actually
have
it
stored
in
the
ground,
but
every
year
that
will
grow
as
we
generally
The
Source
Credit.
So
in
my
mind,
that's
a
good
growth
for
us
to
have
to
have
that
storage
of
water.
E
G
G
And
nothing
else
really
jumps
out
at
me.
Our
chemical
costs
have
stayed.
You
know
we,
as
she
have
seen,
increases
in
the
chemical
cost,
but
because
of
the
loss
of
an
18
of
our
customer
base,
I
think
we're
going
to
use
less
this
year.
G
So
that's
how
we
budgeted
that
so
we're
this
upcoming
proposed
budget
is
a
bit
of
a
flux
here,
because
we
flux
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what
everything
will
cost
after
everything's
done
with
the
transition
we've
had,
the
transition
went
a
little
slower
than
we
anticipated
this
year,
which
gave
us
some
additional
Revenue.
We
also
meant
we
had
some
additional
costs
for
running
the
system,
but
so
the
next
year
we'll
have
a
better
understanding
of
like
cost
per
thousand
for
for
usage
and
stuff.
G
You
will
see
a
small
increase
in
the
FTE
count
point
one
thing
that
it's
from
two
things
we
actually
used
to
have
a
management
analyst
position.
It
was
actually
funded
in
all
three
Enterprise
funds.
Sadly,
we
lost
that
position,
but
the
good
thing
is
that
that
person
actually
stayed
in
the
town
and
became
an
accountant
so
now
we're
jointly
funding
that
position
with
Finance.
So
we're
we're
funding
30
of
that
position
and
70
is
being
funded
by
the
general
fund,
but
we're
taking
the
we're
reclassifying.
G
What
was
a
management
analyst
position
into
a
civil
engineer,
project
management,
project
manager,
we're
doing
it
this
cap,
this
fiscal
year,
so
you'll
see
it
moving
forward
as
a
new
position.
We've
worked
out
a
job
description,
we'll
hopefully
get
that
advertised
here
shortly.
So
because
the
number
of
projects
we
have
I
think
that's
good.
You
can
see
we
have
a
pretty
pretty
aggressive
Capital
program,
a
lot
of
things
to
get
done
and
just
even
operational
projects.
So
you
know
we
could
use
some
help.
Get
stuff
done,
get
more
efficient
problem.
F
And
just
to
okay.
C
F
To
recap,
in
on
Cave
Creek
Water,
the
fun
summary
at
the
bottom
of
the
second
page,
so
for
2024
foreign
Waters,
proposing
taken
revenue
of
almost
6.5
million
dollars.
F
The
expenditures
that
are
budgeted
are
at
11
million
425,
so
Cape
Creek
Water
ends
up
in
the
red
by
almost
five
million
dollars
of
which,
in
the
one-time
sources,
we've
got
in
their
Grant
proceeds
of
the
3
million,
which
represents
the
two
and
a
half
million
that
we've
applied
for
for
the
congressionally
directed
spending
through
our
Senators
and
representative
offices
and
500
000
for
the
water
smart
grant
that
we
still
haven't
heard
on
as
well.
F
So
the
net
result
for
Cave
Creek
Water
for
2024
ends
up
in
the
red
about
a
million
nine
and
it
gets
offset
by
the
three
and
a
half
million
that's
sitting
in
fund
balance
at
beginning
fund
balance
and
that
the
money
that's
sitting
in
beginning
fund
balance
rolls
forward
from
this
fiscal
year,
and
that
includes
the
almost
2
million
in
State
local
fiscal
recovery
funds
that
we've
received
this
year,
but
have
not
spent.
F
So
that's
the
offset
there
in
fund
balance
and
then
of
the
a
million
six
that's
sitting
and
ending
fund
balance
for
Cape
Creek
Water.
The
whiffer
reserve
requirement
is
the
1.3
million,
which
leaves
Cave
Creek
water
with
a
positive
ending
fund,
balance
of
276
000
126.
F
A
F
So
yeah,
when
the
assets
hit
the
books,
the
expenditure
just
comes
off
and
then
the
asset
gets
recorded,
but
it's
so.
The
fund.
F
And
we've
taken
the
276
000
I
should
also
mention
that's
in
the
ending
fund,
balance
for
K
Creek
Water
and,
although
not
required
by
our
financial
policies,
have
put
that
into
a
contingency,
so
it's
appropriated
and
available
to
be
spent
if
needed.
G
Yeah
and
Miss
mentioned
the
water
smart
Grant,
so
you
might
notice
in
the
capital
program.
Since
last
time
we
presented
the
camera
program
on
the
on
the
Cape
Creek
Water
System.
Is
that
the
cost
of
the
the
meter
replacement
program?
That's
actually
the
watermark
Grant
is
actually
the
application
that
we
did
to
the
EPA
to
to
help
us
jointly
fund
the
the
meter
change
out
program.
It
was
originally
supposed
to
be
issued
last
year,
so
it
would
have
hit
last
year.
So
it
requires
us
to
do
a
50
match.
G
We
expect
just
over
a
half
we
put
in
for
half
a
million
dollars.
That
was
the
authority.
We
had
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
this
past
fiscal
year,
we're
supposed
to
have
300
000,
which
would
give
us
our
match.
We
actually
had
to
condense
that
into
one
year
because
we
anticipate
we'll
get
it,
but
we'll
have
to
spend
it
right
away.
So
it
should
be
a
good
thing,
because
then
we'll
change
out
a
lot
of
meters
in
one
year
instead
of
separate.
A
G
Moving
on
to
Desert,
Hills,
Water,
System
I
think
the
system
overall
is
in
good
shape.
The
biggest
change
to
that
is
because
when
we
is
the
the
cost
of
the
cap,
water
and
and
what's
going
on
at
that
system,
we
do
have
the
new
subcontract
for
for
municip
non-indian
agricultural
water
in
in
Desert
Hills,
and
this
past
year
we
actually
were
paying
for
that
fee.
G
There's
the
ongoing
Capital
cost,
so
we've
done
two
payments
and
we've
got
three
left
at
about
158
000
per
year
and
then
a
full
payment
of
both
the
capital,
ongoing
capital
and
delivery
cost
for
that
water.
But
that
is
a
Water
Resource
that
we
secured
for
Desert
Hills
to
help
offset
the
municipal
industrial
water
supplies
that
we've
been
transferring
through
them
since
the
town
actually
acquired
this
system
and
we've
built
into
the
line
item
budget,
the
the
cost
for
them
to
pay.
G
For
that
all
that
water
and
then
the
big
changes
is
the
bulk
water.
With
this
year's
Ray
States,
what
we
did
is
we
have
Desert
Hills
paying
for
the
water,
that's
being
used
from
Cave
Creek
and
like
a
typical,
just
sort
of
a
wholesale
rate.
They're
actually
with
rate
model
and
Council
agree
to
this-
was
that
we're
transferring
some
of
the
future
debt
services
on
the
K
freak
water
system,
where,
in
the
past
2007,
when
the
the
big
Capital
Improvements
were
being
done
in
the
in
the
town,
they
were
actually
jointly
split.
G
So
there's
actually
two
loans
for
the
large
Capital
Improvement
project
that
was
done
in
2006,
seven
or
seven
and
eight
in
the
town.
In
this
case,
we're
actually
going
to
take
out
one
loan
moving
forward
to
do
the
improvements
to
The
Cave,
Creek,
Water
System,
but
we're
splitting
into
debt
service
between
the
two
funds
and
we're
actually
using
the
bulk
water
rate
to
do
that
transfer
of
funds
between
the
two.
G
So
it
becomes
a
a
cost,
an
expenditure
to
keep
Desert
Hills
water
and
a
revenue
or
to
Desert
Hills
water
and
revenue
to
Cave
Creek
Water.
So
we
have
adjusted
our
our
salaries
a
little
bit
between
the
agencies
before
we
charge
some
of
the
weight
Water
Treatment
Plant
operators,
though
it
didn't,
seem
fair
to
charge
the
the
staff
members
there
and
do
the
bulk
water
rates.
G
So
we
did
still
keep
the
supervisor
partly
funded
the
water
treatment
supervisor,
because
the
goal
is
that
that's
when
that
position
is
filled,
we'll
actually
have
request
that
person
to
be
the
operator
of
record
for
Desert
Hills
Desert
Hills
does
have
a
treatment
site
because
we
do
have
two.
The
three
Wells
enter
the
system
and
we
actually
have
a
arsenic
treatment
system,
so
we
actually
have
to
have
a
treatment
operator
record
and
a
distribution
operator
record.
G
G
Thanks
for
that
again
same
sort
of
challenges.
We've
had
I
mentioned
before
the
water
rates
going
up
or
sorry,
the
electric
electricity.
We
anticipate
going
up
We've
budget
for
that
we've
expressed,
expect
a
little
bit
more
chemical
usage
we've
actually
on
the
good
news
on
Cave
Creek,
Desert
Hills,
we're
trying
to
utilize
the
wells
more.
So
part
of
the
reason
in
the
the
for
the
increase
in
the
chemical
usage
is,
is
the
higher
usage
of
the
wells
out
there
so,
which
means
less
transfer
of
Cape
Creek
water
into
the
system?
G
G
Go
surprisingly
not
bad,
two
of
the
three
Wells
aren't
doing
too
good,
which
are
two
lower
production
Wells,
which
is
the
two
Wells
that
go
into
our
10th
Street
site,
but
the
the
the
largest
production
well,
which
is
at
Joy
Ranch
in
Third
Avenue.
Actually,
it's
been
stable
for
groundwater,
so
we
think
it's
some
of
the
recharging
that
that's
being
done
in
Anthem,
so
we're
getting
some
benefit
out
there,
so
we'll
take
advantage
of
it.
So.
G
You
know
with
that:
there's
I,
don't
there's
not
significant
changes.
Homeless.
Council
has
any
questions.
This
interest
of
time.
A
This
is
financial,
but
we're
550
533
thousand
dollars
in
bread
on
Desert
Hills.
Reading
that
right.
A
F
Let
me
just
summarize,
are
you
looking
at?
Were
you
looking
at
the
fiscopy
or
23
estimated
column
or.
F
Okay,
so
on
the
second
page,
under
the
Desert
Hills
water
system
fund
summary
report
for
fiscal
year,
I'll
start
with
fiscal
year
23.
the
revenue
Desert
Hills
was
taking
in
was
3.9
million
dollars.
They
had
expenditures
of
3.9
million
dollars,
so
they
were
in
the
black
22
866
dollars.
They
had
transfer
in
of
533
175,
which
took
the
net
result
in
2023
to
five
hundred
fifty
six
thousand
sixty
one
dollars.
F
There
had
started
the
fiscal
year
with
a
negative
fund
balance
of
89
470
for
fiscal
year
23.
It
required
a
transfer
of
funds
and
those
transfers
were
not
made.
So
as
Desert
Hills
ends
up
in
the
positive,
they
will
need
to
pay
on
the
general
fund
back
for
the
89
470
transfer
that
did
not
get
made
for
22..
F
A
F
As
we
go
forward
for
fiscal
year,
2024
Desert
Hills
has
a
positive
net.
Operations
of
334
are
proposed
to
have
positive
net
operations
of
334
682.,
so
that
is
correct.
Okay,.
A
F
Moving
forward
and
we'll
true
up
22
and
23
after
fiscal
year,
23
ends
and
we
see
where,
where
we
actually
end
for
23..
E
F
F
And
then
the
last
Enterprise
sheet,
that's
in
your
packet,
is
for
the
2023
with
a
Loan
Fund.
This
is
a
new
fund
for
fiscal
year
24
and
it
has
the
with
a
loan
proceeds
that
we
have
taken
forward
to
wifa
four
listed
in
there
of
the
13
million
190
and
the
improvements
for
the
Phoenix
interconnect
project
appropriated
in
there
as
well
for
the
13
million
190..
Those
funds
have
been
established
and
set
aside
in
a
separate
fund.
F
It's
a
drawd
with
the
with
alone
as
a
drawdown
system,
so
this
fund
will
allow
us
to
properly
track
What
expenses.
We
have
for
this
purpose,
so
we
can
accurately
draw
them
down
so
they've
just
been
set
aside
separately,
but
for
financial
statement
purposes
they
will
be
included
in
with
the
Cape
Creek
Water
fund.
B
Since
we're
since
we're
adding
the
additional
columns,
we're
just
just
trying
to
decide
if
we
need
to
copy
the
whole
thing
over,
but
adding
the
column
with
the
percent
change,
we'll
have
to
copy
this
all
over
again
for
you
for
Thursday.
B
B
B
B
B
A
In
closing
I'd
like
to
thank
the
three,
so
oh,
we
have
public
comment.
I
I
forgot.
E
B
B
H
A
A
To
make
number
one
is
on
the
one
percent
sales
tax,
the
budgeting,
one
percent
increase
Mr,
Mayor
I,
think
that
makes
sense
for
basically
three
reasons
since
we
do
not
count
a
new
business
coming
in
as
proposed,
we
don't
start
counting
the
sales
tax
on
it
until
it's
up
and
running
during
that
fiscal
year
budget
and
you
have
businesses
that
are
going
out
of
business
in
town
as
an
example:
Oaks
Pancake,
House,
Vino
and
Panini
Brian's
barbecue
is
leaving
the
Tumbleweed,
which
had
a
minor
sales
tax,
Outlaw
Annies,
which
is
now
the
rebel
Ranch
local
Johnny's,
is
closing
at
two
they're,
not
there
in
the
evening.
A
So
that's
a
sales
tax
revenue.
We
did
have
in
the
budget
that
we're
not
going
to
collect
that.
So
I
think
it's
important
to
keep
that
a
conservative
number
I
could
go
two
percent,
maybe
you
know,
but
one
percent
I
think
is
better
or
a
low
number
than
a
higher
number
be
a
five
six
or
seven
now.
The
second
reason
is:
when
you
have
high
inflation
prices,
go
up.
Let's
not
forget
that
people
may
buy
less
as
prices
go
up,
so
you're
generally
not
going
to
be
buying.
A
A
Why
not
make
Cave
Creek
I'm
going
a
little
bit
out
in
the
left
field,
the
gold
standard,
as
far
as
what
we
pay
our
people
to
get
people
here,
better
people,
the
best
people
and
get
them
to
stay
most
communities
like
Phoenix,
Scottsdale,
Peoria
Glendale,
attract
people
from
all
four
directions.
We
do
not
get
anybody
from
the
north,
there's
nothing
there,
nothing
to
the
east,
very
limited
on
the
west
and
it's
from
the
south.
A
Third
last
item
is
the
parking.
Let's
not
forget
one
of
the
reasons
we
have
inadequate
parking
in
town,
because
my
understanding
is
when
I
was
on
the
council.
We
do
not
have
in
our
ordinances
if
a
business
adds
a
patio
they
put
tables
and
chairs
out
there.
It
attracts
more
customers,
they're
not
going
to
be
walking
they're
not
going
to
be
on
light
rail
they're
not
going
to
take
the
bus
up
here,
they're
going
to
take
a
car.
Where
are
they
going
to
park
when
we
Grant
a
building
permit
or
an
approval
on
a
building?
A
It's
based
on
the
use
of
the
building
and
the
square
footage
of
it.
You
can
add
on
2
000
feet
of
patio,
put
picnic
tables
out
there
tables
and
chairs,
and
there's
not
one
requirement
for
an
additional
parking
spot,
so
talk
about
fixing
an
ordinance,
that's
one
being
on
the
plan.
Commission,
I
I'd
like
to
get
involved
and
change.
It's
that's
not
going
to
solve
the
problem.
It's
going
to
prevent
businesses
from
growing,
thus
reducing
our
sales
tax
revenue
so
but
we're
part
of
the
problem.
H
Hi
everybody
David
Phelps
here,
Cave
Creek
president.
Thank
you
for
your
patience.
Thanks
for
the
conversation,
it's
been
nice
to
hear
contributions
from
everybody,
I'd
like
to
go
to
one
of
the
issues
that
Ron
was
discussing
as
well.
I.
Think
a
good
buy-in
for
an
employee
is
where
you
live,
and
I
would
ask
Sean
to
comment
on.
Did
the
people
that
left
our
town
as
far
as
being
their
employer
did
they
live
here?.
H
I
would
state
to
you
that
if
we
could
identify
parcel
of
land
that
could
accommodate
a
half
a
dozen
or
eight
single-family
residences,
where
they
would
come
to
basically
Town
employee
housing
that
that
incentive
and
we
could
have
them,
pay
a
rent
or
have
them
pay
some
kind
of
under-market
amount
so
that
they're
not
paying
what
we
would
have
to
pay
if
we
landed
here,
but
they
get
to
live
here.
That
would
be
a
benefit
that
we
could
create
that
gold
standard
you
can
afford
to
live
in
Cave
Creek.
H
H
H
The
amount
of
impact
they
can
generally
have
on
our
trail
system
is
is
not
as
much
as
those
of
us
who
live
up
here.
More
North
I
think
they
are
owed
a
space
that
they
could
have
possibly
a
small
community
center,
a
place
that
they
could
go
to.
That
would
have
shade
outdoor
tables,
maybe
a
little
barbecue
grill
type
thing:
that's
a
safe
place,
it's
only
open
during
daylight
hours.
H
A
This
is
from
Bob
Anderson
yeah.
He
says:
I
propose
at
the
town,
improve
a
one
block
stretch
along
the
south
side
of
Carefree
Highway
between
51st
Street
and
52nd
Street
by
constructing
a
pedestrian
sidewalk
separated
from
the
street
by
race
curve
for
residents
walking
from
both
Phoenix
and
Cave
Creek
sides
of
48th
Street
to
the
Sprouts
of
the
Starbucks
developments.
This
is
the
only
unimproved
stretch
that
remains
rough
dirt.
Mud
and
weeds
is
an
additional
rationale:
the
email
to
the
Council
on
Town
staff,
so
we'll
turn
that
over
to
engineering.
A
B
We
did
confirm
that
all
of
the
property
on
the
south
side
is
within
the
town
limits.
It
would
be
curb
and
gutter
with
concrete.
The
estimated
cost
would
be
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
There's
a
culvert
there
that
we
have
to
put
in
along
that
area
on
the
north
side
of
the
road
is
yet
to
be
developed
and
as
that
property
develops
and
I
don't
know
the
next
year
year
and
a
half
two
years.
B
B
You
know
solution
at
no
cost
to
the
town
or
cost
of
the
town
for
it.
If
you
do
it
on
the
south
side
and
there's.
A
B
A
B
Okay
and
if
I
could
mention
one
more
thing,
that
I
made
a
terrible
faux
pas
that
when
we
were
putting
this
budget
together,
one
of
the
things
that
the
staff
does
is
we
work
with
one
or
two
citizens
from
the
community
to
review
the
budget
before
it
comes
to
the
council,
and
we
worked
with
Mr
Mattingly
and
Adam
White
over
the
years
and
this
year,
Mr
David
Smith
happened
to
be
available
and
he
was
very
kind
to
come
in
and
is
very
knowledgeable
about
the
budget
process
and
most
of
the
projects
in
there,
and
he
spent
two
different
days
with
staff
hearing
all
of
the
department
director.
B
A
It
is
not
my
turn
well
I'd
like
to
thank
our
three
stal
of
arts
for
making
it
all
the
way
to
the
end
of
this
I'd
like
to
thank
staff,
I
think
it's,
it
did
a
nice
job.
It's
a
really
good
start
on
the
budget.
We
can
tune
this
stuff
up.
It's
it's
really
a
gratifying
to
see
how
many
the
the
lost,
the
Carefree
customers,
a
new
fire
department,
we're
fixing
the
streets
up
and
we
still
have
money.
So
we
just
need
to
be
frugal
and
spend
it
correctly.
A
I'd
like
to
thank
staff
for
sticking
with
us
until
10
o'clock,
Council
thank
Council
for
sticking
with
it
and,
of
course,
staff
for
sticking
with
it
too.
It's
been
a
long
day,
but
I
think
it's
it's
like
a
root
canal,
kinda
I'm.
Looking
for
a
motion
to
adjourn.