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From YouTube: 21 February 2023 Regular Cave Creek Town Council meeting
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A
Pledge
of
Allegiance
Mr
solar.
Would
you
like
to
lead
us
in
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
foreign.
A
A
Public
announcements
on
on
Thursday
of
this
week
at
10
o'clock
we're
having
a
Merchants
meeting
with
merchants
in
the
town.
Invitations
have
gone
out
widely,
including
flyers
and
other
things.
Theresa
has
handled
that,
and
the
main
purpose
of
that
is
to
talk
about
some
of
the
issues
in
town
to
invite
participation
in
the
rodeo
and
the
visitor
center,
and
also
to
invite
an
organized
engagement
with
town
on
Town
issues,
and
so
that
will
be
Thursday
at
10
o'clock.
A
The
other
Public
Announcement
that
I
have
is
I
met
with
the
sheriff's
Captain
last
week
for
for
quite
some
time
and
I'm
sure
that
will
show
up
on
an
agenda
item
at
some
point
at
this
point.
Does
anyone
else
have
announcements
for
the
public.
C
A
Okay,
next,
we
have
called
the
public
and
I've
been
working
on
a
oh
there.
It
is
you're
searching
for
my
write-up
my
homework.
A
Anyone
wishing
to
speak
may
do
so
during
this
time
of
the
meeting.
All
you
have
to
do
is
fill
out
a
card
and
give
it
to
the
clerk.
This
is
Teresa.
There's
a
three-minute
time
limit
on
issues
for
call
to
the
public.
The
council
can
direct
staff
to
investigate,
based
on
what
we
hear,
but
Council
cannot
respond.
Council
cannot
actually
address
any
items
that
are
brought
up
unless
it
is
something
directly
personal,
and
this
is
all
according
to
state
law.
A
We
have
no
choice
in
how
that
particular
part
of
the
meeting
Works,
that's
because
by
state
law,
any
items
that
are
discussed
must
be
agendized
and
advertised,
with
the
exception
of
this
call
to
the
public
that
is
also
written
in
state
law.
F
E
I'm,
a
retired
Rancher
from
South
Dakota
ranched,
all
my
life
53
years
and
I
work,
53
years
to
get
them
ranches
paid
for
I,
had
branches
of
Montana,
Wyoming
and
South
Dakota.
E
E
E
The
most
thing
I'm,
proud
of
is
this:
when
we
had
our
big
retirement
batch
after
I
sold
all
the
ranches,
the
livestock
markets
before
works,
we
had
a
big
celebration
and
all
I
talked
about
was
my
employees
out
of
186
employees
that
I
had
80
percent
of
those
were
with
me
from
26
to
46
years,
I'm
more
proud
of
that
than
anything
that
I've
done
in
my
life
now
I
helped
them,
but
they
made
me
period
period.
Now.
E
E
E
And
if,
if
there's
an
ordinance
that
isn't
followed,
then
you
got
to
change
it
now
the
law
does
say
that,
but
I
don't
think
anybody
wants
to
change
it
now.
E
Okay,
this
new
technology.
It
don't
only
say
the
speeding
like
what
there
is
signs
like
that
on
Cave
Creek
Road,
but
it
also
keeps
track
of
the
decimal
rating
and
the
decibel
information
is
in
here
now:
it's
science:
it
isn't
some
Joe
Blow
trying
to
tell
you
something:
it's
science
and
I.
Don't
think
Fosse
made
it
if
you
don't,
who
are
you
talking
about?
E
Okay,
now
that
sort
of
boils
down
to
and
I
think
that
if
Cave
Creek
would
be
one
of
the
first
to
install
this
I
think
that
they'd
get
more
con.
Congratulations
than
anybody
could
ever
think
now
about
a
year
ago,
I
talked
to
the
Head
Deputy
Sheriff's
Office
and
I've
got
his
name
and
he's
the
code
number
and
everything
on
there
kind
of
a
big
wheel,
I
didn't
have
to
go,
see
him.
He
come
to
see
me
and
we
talked
about
this
decibel
reading.
E
E
E
Togetherness
and
understand
things
now,
I'm,
not
going
to
say
anymore
I'm,
going
to
give
him
the
the
mayor.
A
copy
of
this
new
technology
and
I'm
going
to
get
out
of
your
hair
and
I
can
see.
But
what's
been
over
a
few
guys.
I
can
tell
everybody
said:
there's
a
professional
now
I'm,
a
good
judge
of
people.
I
I
interviewed
a
person
every
employee
I
ever
had
in
my
life
and
I.
Think
the
the
stats
that
I
give
you
will.
E
And
I'd
done
my
damage
to
hire
people
smarter
than
I
said
myself
and
I
if
it
worked
out
quite
a
few
times
no
I'm
a
past
National
president,
an
international
president
of
the
livestock
marketing
Association
and
our
headquarters
is
in
Kansas,
City
and
I
was
ahead
of
the
banking
and
risk
department
for
many
years
and
I
got
so
tired
of
giving
speeches
and
going
every
place
in
the
damn
country
that
I
couldn't
go
to
a
meeting
for
five
years
after
that,
I
was
so
burned
out
now,
I'm
done
and
I'm
going
to
give
Mr
Morris.
E
A
E
E
E
F
Lots
of
luck,
how's,
the
guy
supposed
to
follow
that
come
on
now,
I'm
here
to
discuss,
Senate,
Bill,
1117
or
Senate
Bill
1117
there's
been
an
attack
on
the
rural
way
of
life
and
all
zoning
in
Arizona
by
the
legislature.
This
season
and
I've
highlighted
just
a
couple
of
the
issues
having
to
do
with
residential
housing
design
standards,
which
municipalities
of
less
than
25
000
are
not
affected.
F
However,
when
you
look
at
the
legislation,
the
way
it's
been
struck
and
redone,
the
only
thing
keeping
us
from
being
affected
other
than
everybody
in
Desert
Hills
being
able
to
apply
to
this
would
be
that
they
would
have
to
take
out
one
to
make
us
part
of
the
soup.
They
want
to
make
and
believe
me,
this
will
decimate
Arizona.
This
is
the
worst
assault
on
private
property
rights.
F
It's
just
you
show
up
here
and
in
30
days
they
need
an
approval
they're,
allowing
at
risk
to
the
landowner,
the
basically
with
a
preliminary
plaid
approval,
which
is
no
longer
seen
by
a
board
or
commission
or
a
legislative
body.
It's
a
it's
an
administrative
approval
for
preliminary
plots
and
final
plots.
F
They
are
able,
with
a
preliminary
plot,
to
start
grading.
So
this
is
a
something
that
only
could
be
basically
thought
of
in
in
the
halls
of
Arizona.
It's
basically,
they
want
to
take
the
citizens
rights
to
our
Municipal
planning
and
zoning
and
throw
them
out
the
window
and
give
all
these
Buy-Rite
uses
to
residential
zoning.
F
F
I
mean
it
it's
it's
the
biggest
assault
on
Arizona
that
I've
ever
witnessed
and
I'm
new
here,
I've
only
been
here
63
years,
but
I
62
years.
But
things
like
eliminates
the
requirement
for
preliminary
and
final
plots
to
be
approved
by
a
legislative
body
are
critical
to
Who.
We
Are
requires
that
a
municipality
procedures
for
administrative
approval
for
all
final
plots.
F
D
B
A
She's
on
the
line
Miss
Town
manager,
do
you
want
to
say
anything
with
your
report
or
are
you
just
listening.
H
There
can
you
hear
me
now,
yes,
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
what
the
mayor
said
about
Thursday
is
that
staff
has
sent
emails
to
hundreds
of
businesses
and
we
will
send
another
email
reminder
tomorrow
and
we
do
have
staff
reaching
out
personally
with
phone
calls
to
businesses
to
attend,
try
to
get
folks
to
attend
that
make
them
aware.
But
I
know
business
owners
get
you
know
busy,
and
we
want
to
just
make
sure
that
that
they
are
aware
of
the
sessions.
H
We're
trying
to
have
a
really
good
attendance
on
Thursday
and
then
the
other
thing
is
it's
fast
approaching
our
first
brush
drop
off
in
March
on
the
11th,
so
we'll
be
getting
the
word
out
through
social
media
and
that
but
want
to
make
an
announcement
for
folks
to
start
kind
of
cleaning
up
their
property
and
putting
that
together
for
the
first
brush
drop
off
and
that's
all
I
have.
D
A
question
Carrie,
it's
Catherine
is
the
meeting
on
Thursday
with
the
business
owners
open
to
the
public.
H
It's
a
public
meeting.
We
we
have
seven
council
members,
invited
I'm,
sure
we'll
have
a
quorum
and
it
will
be
posted,
so
it's
primarily
for
the
businesses,
but
it
is
a
public
meeting,
and
so
it
will
be
live
streamed.
Yes,
it's
in
the
council
chamber,
so,
yes,
okay!
It
will
be
very
difficult,
though,
to
capture
everything,
because
there
will
be.
H
You
know,
group
discussions,
it's
not
structured
as
a
council
meeting
with
everyone
sitting
by
a
microphone
or
at
a
Podium
speaking
so,
but
the
initial
introduction
and
some
presentation
by
the
rodeo
and
the
tourism
Bureau
and
any
other
questions
folks
may
have.
But
after
that,
it's
really
more
of
a
meet
and
greet.
D
Well,
when
Brian
has
the
link
created,
would
you
let
me
know
thanks.
A
I
Maybe,
like
we
talked
about
in
The,
Retreat,
ask
them
what
five
issues
they
face,
that
the
town
could
help
them
on
just
as
kind
of
a
have
them
have
them
put
something
down
on
paper
so
that
we
can.
We
can
take
a
look
at
it
and
maybe
Identify
some
trims.
H
Council
member,
that's
really
up
to
the
council,
it's
structured!
If
there's
a
wish
to
do
so,
and
to
capture
that
we
could
have
them
write
that
down.
However,
you'd
like
to
do
it.
A
Well,
this
was
structured
by
me
and
I.
Don't
think
we'll
do
that.
This
is
a
an
initial.
The
plan
of
the
meeting
is
is
to
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
issues
to
tell
them
what's
issued.
That's
a
tell
a
dialogue,
no
tell
okay,
tell
t-e-l-l
issues
like
pedestrian
safety,
some
of
the
things
going
on
in
town,
invite
participation
in
the
rodeo
and
the
visitors
bureau
and
then
invite
organized
engagement
and
then
the
idea
is
that
we
break
since
there
can
be
so
many
people
there.
It's
it's.
A
A
large
meeting
is
to
as
many
staff
members
and
counselors
that
can
attend
will
break
up
and
let
let
individual
members
receive
feedback
and
talk
to
them
and
see
what
the
issues
are.
There
may
be
a
need
for
more
meetings,
but
this
is
a
a
kickoff
sort
of
thing.
So
I
I,
we
don't
have
the
structure
to
do
any
kind
of
facilitated
me.
So
no.
I
A
They
can
do
that
anytime,
but
the
idea
here
was
something
the
real
idea
here
is
engagement.
Okay,
we
we
do
want
to
get
their
ideas
and
that's
one
of
the
purposes
is
to
invite
and
organize
they're
they're,
really
invisible
and
talented
Mike,
and
we
want
them
to
be
engaged
and
issues
that
that
impact
their
businesses.
A
J
I
have
a
quick
comment
too.
I
had
a
great
time
well,
today,
I
started,
maybe
10
o'clock
or
so
and
Teresa
had
made
some
handouts
and
I
went
up
and
down
the
street
I.
Don't
know
how
many
you
gave
me,
but
I
got
rid
of
all
of
them
and
had
a
good
time
doing
it,
and
people
are
real
interested
in
coming.
J
They're
excited
about
having
a
conversation
with
the
town
and
in
the
town
and
then
Carrie
I
had
a
question.
I
noticed
I
got
a
an
announcement
from
the
league
of
cities
and
towns
and
they're
doing
a
grant.
Writing
Workshop
a
grant.
Writing
kind
of
how-to
and
I'm
wondering
do
you?
Have
anybody
go
into
that
or
I
know
it's
out
there
a
little
bit
but
I'm,
just
kind
of
wondering.
H
A
The
next
is
the
the
consent
agenda.
Do
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agent.
J
Bob,
if
possible,
I'd
like
to
pull
that
I
have
a
couple
of
comments,
I'd
like
to
make
I'm
going
to
vote
on.
Yes
on
this
consent
agenda,
but
I've
got
a
couple
of
comments:
I'd
like
to
make
okay,
you
got
time
for
that
yep
yep
sure.
So
on,
January,
17th
and
18th.
The
new
Council
met
with
senior
staff
in.
E
J
Are
generally
out,
you
got
it
all
right.
The
agenda,
many
minutes
before
you
show
the
activities
we
employed,
but
not
the
themes
that
were
discussed.
This
strategic
planning
effort
is
not
completed.
Our
meetings
were
the
first
step,
each
staff
member
and
each
councilman
member
shared
their
thoughts
about
what
should
be
considered.
J
J
A
K
K
K
K
Miscellaneous
revenues
of
193
628
are
above
budget
at
84.6
percent,
due
to
Insurance
Recovery
monies
of
85
575
dollars
that
were
received
for
weather
damage
at
the
rodeo
grounds.
K
The
bottom
pie
graph
shows
73
percent
of
the
town's
general
fund.
Revenues
are
from
local
taxes,
which
are
Town
sales,
taxes
and
construction
sales.
Taxes
14
are
from
state
revenue,
which
is
the
town's
portion
of
State
funding
for
state
income,
tax,
state
sales,
tax
and
vehicle
license.
Tax
and
10
percent
are
from
local
fees,
which
are
the
fees
the
town
collects
for
its
services,
and
the
remaining
three
percent
in
yellow
represent
the
miscellaneous
revenues
for
the
town.
K
The
next
slide
shows
general
fund
expenditures
through
the
end
of
second
quarter.
The
top
half
of
the
slide
shows
operating
expenditures
to
budget
by
department
and
the
bottom
of
the
slide
shows
Capital
expenditures
to
budget
by
Department.
All
general
fund
departments
are
trending
below
budget
halfway
through
the
fiscal
year.
K
The
next
slide
shows
the
other
major
general
governmental
funds.
The
town
has
received
181,
716
or
46.8
of
State
herf
revenues
through
second
quarter
and
no
expenditures
have
been
made
yet
year.
To
date,
spur
cross
has
received
818,
774
or
53.4
percent
of
local
taxes
through
second
quarter
and
expended,
and
has
expended
108
000
or
50
percent
of
the
budget
to
Maricopa
County
for
administration
of
the
park.
K
K
K
Capital
project
expenses
for
Wastewater
of
300
167
dollars
are
slightly
under
budget
at
the
end
of
the
second
quarter,
the
inlet
screen
replacement
and
the
head
works
and
Basin
repairs
projects
for
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
account
for
the
46
or
the
40.6
percent
of
the
capital.
Project's
budget
expense
through
the
second
quarter.
A
Miss
Calla,
would
you
explain
the
the
revenue
number
I
for
the
new?
The
people
who
just
this
is
their
first
budget
review
I
think
but
counted
as
revenue
is,
are
some
things
that
aren't
that
are
not
coming
from
the
customers,
the
subsidies
that
are
built
into
this.
Would
you
go
through
that,
so
that
folks.
A
K
Okay,
so
the
Wastewater
included
in
the
revenues
of
the
a
million
465
367
are
the
half
cent
sales
tax
that
goes
to
the
Wastewater
fund,
that's
a
part
of
local
taxes
and
then
there's
money
in
there
for
our
Wastewater
capacity
charges.
K
A
A
Okay,
so
if
you
double
that
we're
subsidizing
sewer
through
sales
tax
by
1.6
million
per
year
correct
and
then
in
addition
to
that,
you
haven't
gotten
there
yet,
but
we're
not
covering.
We
are
not
covering
the
capital
expenditures
that
the
capital
cost
for
the
loans
that
we've
taken
out
with
them
correct
and
tools
and
we're
also
putting
general
fund
money
in
there.
But
this
is
pre
the.
K
K
K
K
K
A
The
question
I
I,
quite
another
question
here,
I
know
on
the
on
the
cover
letter,
page
10,
to
136
that
that
Desert
Hills
is
was
tracking
on
the
operating
expenses
were
tracking
right
together,
but
that's
not
covering
The
Debt
Service,
so
we're
still
not
covering
Debt
Service
in
Desert
Hills
Debt.
K
Service
has
not
been
reflected
in
there
as
of
yet
because
those
payments
get
made
at
January.
1St
is
the
first
Debt
Service
payment,
so
that'll
get
reflected.
This
goes
through
December
31st,
so.
A
K
A
The
the
the
I
guess
the
point
I'm
trying
to
get
at
is
that,
since
the
revenues
and
the
expenses
are
balanced
now
and
we've
got
this
big
lump
sum
Debt
Service,
that
has
not
hit
the
books.
Yet,
if
this
trend
continues,
we
will
not
have
any
funds
set
aside
to
cover
that
that
can
be
attributed
to
the
Desert
Hills
feeds.
Thus,
the
reason
for
the
increase
in
Desert
Hills
Water
fees
that
are
going
into
effect
right.
C
A
You
congratulations,
I,
really
like
the
way
that
you've
set
these
up
with
these
graphs
and
has
operating
expenses
broken
out
from
Capital.
So
we
can
see
what
the
what
we're
doing.
Yeah
nice.
J
K
A
F
K
It's
state
and
local
fiscal
recovery
funds,
it's
that
was
received
by
cities
and
towns.
It's
grant
money.
K
A
You
David
there's
public
comment:
did
you
want
to
say
anything.
A
Yeah
next
anything
else
from
Council
on
this
side
before
we
leave
number
two:
is
a
council
discussion
approval
of
contract
with
VSS
International
to
install
a
Type,
3
micro
servicing
along
Carefree
Highway
from
the
west
side
of
Cave
Creek
Road
to
the
west
side
of
48th
Street
for
an
amount
of
279,
430
Town
engineer.
L
You
just
heard
from
our
finance
director
that
we
hadn't
spent
any
of
the
herf
money
I'm
here
to
solve
that
problem
for
you.
Yes,
the
town
received
bids
for
micro,
surfacing
of
Carefree
Highway
from
Cave
Creek
Road
to
48th
Street
through
the
intersection
of
48.
That's
our
that's
part
of
our
controlled
area,
given
that
Scottsdale
is
planning
on
coming
up
to
Carefree
Highway
and
our
water
department
is
going
to
and
the
City
of
Phoenix
are
going
to
be
tearing
up
the
intersection.
L
We
decided
that
we
weren't
going
to
worry
about
that
area
for
right
now,
so
we
went
from
the
west
side
of
the
cave,
Cave
Creek,
intersection
out
to
48th
Street,
with
this
micro
surfacing
microsurfacing,
is
about
what
we
did
is
the
same
thing
that
we
did
on
careful
on
Cave
Creek
Road.
Only
that
was
a
type
two.
L
We
received
four
bids
ranging
for
just
the
type
three
from
279
430.
to
a
high
of
384
800
and
we're
recommending
BSS
International
for
the
20
for
the
279
430
dollars.
G
L
That's
the
that's
a
fairly
standard
contract
that
we
have
them
that
we
have
them
sign.
The
50
pages
is
a
contract
that
we
put
together.
They
have
signed
it
in
the
past,
they
provide
bonding
and
they
provide
both
performance
and
payment
bonds.
L
I
I
Comment:
I
just
wanted
to
tell
you
that
I
got
some
feedback
from
you
and
Tyler
going
out
to
talk
to
the
folks
off
of
Morningstar.
Several
of
them
have
gone
over
and
taken
a
look
at
the
at
the
road
going
out
to
Spur
across,
and
they
all
seem
to
be
pretty
positive
about
it.
So
you
and
Tyler
did
a
great
job
on
that.
Thank.
D
A
Schoolhouse
Road-
it
was
only
was
done
just
a
few
years
ago
and
it
has
absolutely
fallen
to
pieces.
Spalling
cracks,
spider
cracks.
It
is
a
mess
right
now
and
getting
worse
with
every
rainstorm.
We.
L
Have
it
we
have
it
scheduled
not
in
I,
think
it's
not
till
25.
We
will
have
to
go
out
and
do
some
repairs
on
Schoolhouse.
The
problem
was
it
wasn't
really
a
slurry
seal,
it
was
a
the
town
was
doing
a
lot
of
one-inch
overlays
and
if
you
read
mag,
the
minimum
overlay
should
be
two
and
a
half
inches
and
I.
Don't
know
why
the
town
was
doing
one
inch
overlays,
but
that
was
not
something
that
really
should
be
done.
If
you're
going
to
do
a
thickness,
that's
required
by
Mac,
okay,.
L
L
There
are
some
areas
of
distress
pavement
that
we're
going
to
have
milled
out
to
three
inches
deep
and
replaced,
and
then
VSS
will
come
in
and
do
the
slurry
seal
to
seal
off
any
of
the
moisture
that
gets
into
the
pavement
and
causes
distress
to
the
pavement.
So,
yes,
we
are
trying
to
do
it
in
a
systematic
manner.
When
we
do
Mill
and
pays,
we
typically
do
a
minimum
of
two
and
a
half
inches
thickness
on
Mill
and
paves
now
just
because
we
don't
want
to
just
put
it.
L
C
L
C
G
A
M
What
you
have
before
you
tonight
is
a
request
for
an
action
to
approve
the
resolution,
202301
that
allows
us
to
accept
the
Grant
from
the
public
safety
Foundation
Firehouse
Public,
Safety
Foundation.
We
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
before,
but
we
applied
for
this
grant
quite
a
while
ago,
actually
started
way
back
when
we
had
some
medicine,
this
last
fall
and
what
we've
asked
for
is
a
off-road
utility
vehicle
with
a
specialized
sled
that
goes
on
to
it.
M
That
allows
us
to
put
a
full-size
stretcher
on
it
and
allows
us
to
take
two
personnel
and
medic
and
a
non-medic
out
into
any
of
The
Preserves
trails
to
retrieve
people,
so
we
don't
have
to
fly
them
out
like
we
did
last
year.
This
gets
our
folks
out
there
faster.
It
saves
our
firefighters
from
having
to
hike
out
and
then
being
conditioned
to
treat
and
Hike
them
back
in.
This
will
help
us
get
people
on
and
off
the
trails,
much
quicker
if
we
run
into
those
situations.
M
M
M
It
took
me
quite
a
while
to
figure
out
why
they
didn't
fund
the
entire
amount
that
I
had
asked
for
want
to
hang
out
with
the
foundation,
and
that
was
the
difference.
So
we
will
cover
that,
but
all
of
the
other
bids
and
all
the
other
prices
are
exactly
as
laid
out
in
the
in
the
packet
for
you.
M
The
foundation
has
decided,
for
they
have
several
ways
that
they
distribute
the
funds.
They
are
already
in
the
process,
and
we've
already
talked
to
them
with
the
financial
folks
to
distribute
those
funds
to
us
now
and
then
per
the
memory
of
understanding
that
we
have
and
that
they've
put
out
Nationwide.
We
will
end
up
giving
them
back
the
receipts
and
right
completing
the
the
grant.
Once
we
do
all
that
and
with
that
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
M
Mayor
councilman
Rhodes,
yes,
it
can
be.
It
can
be
used
for
anything
that
the
town
wants
to
use
it,
for
we
can
use
it
for
bike
weeks
or
future
bike
weeks
or
future
parades
anything.
We
want
to
use
it
for
it's,
it's
the
town's
property
for
the
grant,
and
we
can
do
that.
That's
correct
that
was
in
the
part
of
the
the
application
saying
we
would
use
a
further
pound
events.
A
M
Other
questions
I
will
make
Mr
Mayor
if
I
make
one
additional
comment.
This
has
to
be
done
and
completed
before
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
and
all
parties
are
very
much
aware
that
the
foundation
is
aware
of
that
and
the
vendors
that
we've
had
contacted
here
and
got
the
bids
from
who's.
Aware
of
that,
so
we
have
to
have
it
done
by
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
before
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
A
G
I
want
comments.
Oh
sorry,
yeah
we
have
a
number
of
businesses
in
town
who
contribute
to
the
town
in
a
variety
of
ways,
the
contributing
toward
the
rodeo,
and
we
appreciate
all
that
the
businesses
have
done
in
particular,
I.
Think
our
thanks
to
Firehouse
Subs
has
to
be
stated.
M
Good
question
good
point:
Mr
Baron
Council,
if
I
might
make
one
additional
comment
when
we
do
receive
this
equipment,
they
have
sent
us
a
packet
for
a
little
bit
of
publicity,
and
so
we
will
probably
do
an
Outreach
and
get
some
pictures
in
the
paper
and
put
an
official
thank
you
to
Firehouse
Subs
to
make
sure
that
that
goes
out
that
we
do
recognize
them
good.
C
A
I
neglected
public
comment
on
this
one.
Do
we
have
any
public
comments.
F
F
F
We
don't
want
to
adapt
our
natural
areas
to
accommodate
the
vehicle
when
we
have
other
ways
to
work.
The
emergency
as
Jim
alluded
to.
We
have
error
lips.
We
can
do
I,
understand
wanting
to
take
the
stress
off
the
guys
on
a
search
and
rescue.
We
let
them
out
on
the
paths
or
roads
that
had
been
pre-established
prior
to
us,
taking
over
spur
cross,
but
I
would
not
like
to
see
us
implementing
a
widening
of
the
trails
just
to
accommodate
this
vehicle.
That's
it!
Thank
you.
M
Just
as
a
follow-up
to
that,
we've
already
had
the
as
we
talked
about
I,
think
the
last
council
meeting
we've
already
had
a
preliminary
meeting
with
the
Maricopa
County,
Parks
and
and
folks,
and
we
told
them
we
were
getting
this
and
and
a
tunnel
for
us
folks.
We
believe
that
the
primary
Trails
already
can
handle
this.
We
don't
have
to.
M
We
don't
see
any
need
to
widen
Trails,
but
the
primary
Trails
primary
access
points
into
The
Preserve
and
into
the
Maricopa
County
Park
can
already
do
this
and
we're
having
follow-up
meetings
with
the
tunnel
for
us
to
see
how
far
we
can
go
on
their
Trails.
So
there's
not
an
awful
lot
of
work.
That's
going
to
be
done.
This
should
be
able
to
be
used
on.
What's
currently
there.
G
A
Aye
motion
passes
7-0
I'm
interested
in
the
yeses
of
the
eyes,
I
think
the
eyes
are
so
cool.
M
N
Community
Council
so
on
your
screens
is
actually
an
a
site
map
of
the
exhibit
in
question.
It's
a
five-acre
parcel
located
just
north
of
Carefree
Highway
between
7th
Street
and
10th
Street
in
our
Desert
Hills
service
area.
We've
been
working
with
this
developer.
Actually,
for
a
number
of
years
there
was
a
will
serve
offered
to
them
a
number
of
years
ago
for
up
to
three
water
meters.
At
this
point,
the
property
has
actually
been.
They
started
development
about
2018
just
about
the
time
I
started
with
the
town.
N
Actually,
they
started
the
major
development
day
started
on
the
back
half
of
it
as
you've
been
out
to
Desert
Hills.
You
know
it
as
Carefree.
Crossings
is
the
the
storage
unit,
that's
on
the
back
half
of
the
property,
but
they
own
the
entire
17.6
acres
and
they're.
N
Looking
to
master
plan
development,
as
we
were
developing
the
town's
Water
Resource
policy
in
2021,
there's
a
provision
put
in
to
allow
for
us
to
move
ahead
and
actually
as
projects
were,
moving
through
the
development
process
to
give
them
to
do
a
water
service
agreement
in
our
Desert
Hills
area.
We
actually
had
started
the
conversations
with
this
developer
before
that
that
water
service
agreement
was
put
in
place
by
Paul's
or
by
the
policy
was
put
in
place
by
Council.
N
So
it's
taken
a
long
time
to
get
to
this
point,
but
before
you
tonight
is
the
agreement
that
Bill
Sims
has
been
working
on
with
the
opposing
Council
for
for
a
few
months
now,
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
is
give
them
some
validity
for
their
development.
The
agreement
is
again.
The
entire
property
was
17.8.
Acres.
There's
been
one
water
meter
issued
for
the
area
in
yellow,
which
is
the
Carefree
Crossing
storage
area.
They
have
a
three-quarter
inch
meter,
they're
using
very
little
water,
because
it's
just
their
on-site
residential
use.
N
There
was
a
fire
Loop
that
runs
through
the
property
and
then,
as
we
adopted
the
council
at
the
end
of
2021,
Council
may
recall.
We
offered
up
a
water
service
agreement
to
a
proposed
QT
that
was
going
to
be
at
the
the
the
northeast
corner
of
7th
Street
and
Carefree
Highway.
So
that's
already
in
place.
That's
up
to
a
one
inch
meter,
one
and
a
half
acre
feet
of
water,
so
it's
being
proposed
with
this
other
agreement
for
the
the
area
in
Blue.
N
For
this
property,
the
five
acre
property
is
up
to
an
inch
and
a
half
meter,
but
with
a
volumetric
limit
of
one
and
a
half
acre
feet.
So
the
larger
meter
does
a
lot
of
them.
N
A
little
more
flexibility
for
the
instantaneous
flow
that
can
run
through
it,
but
really
I
think
what's
really
benefiting
the
town
is
to
get
the
volumetric
limit
put
in
place
on
the
agreement
so
that
that's
sort
of,
in
conformance
with
our
water
policy,
the
the
the
acre
and
a
half
acre
feet
or
one
and
a
half
acre
feed,
allows
them
to
develop
the
property
somewhat
similar
to
QT
or
or
to
put
some
other
building
up
there
on
a
five
acre
parcel.
N
So
the
the
other
main
point
in
the
agreement
is
that
they
have
up
to
five
years
to
work
with
Maricopa
County
and
actually
get
a
building
permit
for
this
site.
Right
now
they
have
extended
the
Carefree
Crossing
storage
into
a
portion
of
this,
but
they
they
looked
it
as
a
temporary
use.
It
was
really
to
allow
for
more
surface
parking,
so
they
still
proposed
to
put
some
sort
of
building
structure
on
this
on
this
property.
N
So
with
that,
we
can
answer
any
questions
or
Mr
Sims
ice
on
the
line
can
answer
any
questions
because
he
did
work
quite
a
long
time
with
the
opposing
Council
to
get
this
drafted
up.
B
May
have
fallen
off,
he's
been
having
intermittent
connectivity
issues.
A
L
A
Okay,
okay,
so
we've
had
Council
of
communist
public
comment
and
our
attorney
has
something
to
say
so.
We're
looking
for
a
motion.
G
E
G
This
is
a
part
of
our
attempts
to
deal
very
carefully
with
the
Desert
Hills
Water
Company,
it's
outside
the
town.
They
do
have
rights
to
some
of
our
water.
We
want
to
save
all
the
water
we
can
for
Cave
Creek.
They
are
our
customers,
so
the
customer
who
are
out
there
we
have
to
service,
but
we
can
restrict
development
out
there
on
the
basis
of
the
fact
that
we
just
don't
have
a
lot
of
water,
and
that
was
an
issue
that
was
a
part
of
these
negotiations.
A
A
Seeing
no
further
comments,
this
is
this
is
not.
G
A
Opposed
motion
carries
seven
zero
presentation
of
the
quarterly
utilities
report
by
the
utilities
director.
Thank
you,
mayor
council,.
N
I'll
wait
for
Brian
to
get
the
presentation
out.
It's
obviously
part
of
your
package,
but
just
make
sure
that
all
the
audience
members
can
see
it
also
so
I'm
curious
to
get
some
feedback.
My
new
council
members,
because
this
is
probably
the
first
time
you've
seen
it
in
depth.
It's
been
part
of
the
package.
We've
been
using
this
sort
of
format
for
probably
a
good
year
year
and
a
half.
Now
we
have
a
lot
of
credit
to
Ryan
Hill
on
my
staff.
N
N
So
our
first
slide
is
we're
talking
about
our
cap
Central,
electronic
water
deliveries,
and
this
is
really
looking
at
The
Cave
Creek
system
and
our
our
Municipal
and
Industrial
Supplies.
This
bar
graph
is
showing
the
full
year
since
we've
now
gone
through
the
the
full
year
of
2022,
and
you
can
see
our
major
delivery
points
are
to
the
orange
at
the
bottomans
to
our
Cave
Creek
and
carefree
customers.
The
Carefree
customers
have
been
dropping
off
and
I'll
talk
about
that
later.
The
conversion
is
is
nearing
its
completion
phase.
N
The
red
is
showing
the
Desert
Hills
customers,
and
then
we
also,
we
still
provide
water
to
the
ranch,
Manana
golf
course.
That's
the
raw
untreated
water
I'll
point
out
the
little
blurb
or
increase
you'll,
see
in
October.
That's
actually
going
back
to
the
fact
that
we
had
a
a
35
day
building
period
of
that
month,
so
that
did
exacerbate
the
problem.
So
September
was
a
little
bit
fewer
days,
so
October
extended
out.
Now
it
had
to
come
down
to
reading
periods
with
the
staff
members.
N
It's
got
holiday
schedules
Etc.
So
again,
this
is
the
the
readings
that
occurred
in
October.
Actually,
we
we
start
them
in
November
and
they
report
the
usage
in
October,
but
it
was
a
35-day
period.
So
that's
why
you'll
see
that
little
pop
up
in
October,
but
typically
it's
more
of
a.
It
should
be
more
of
a
level
graph,
but
this
is
actually
based
on
the
actual
consumption
data
that
we
have
in
the
system.
A
N
That
does
not
that's
just
yeah
22
2228
is
our
Municipal
Industrial
Supply.
It
does
not
account
for
the
non-indian
agricultural
water,
386
acre
feet
of
non-deading
agricultural
water
that
we're
it's
not
displayed
on
that
chart.
So
thinking
about
that,
we
might
want
to
rethink
this
in
the
future,
because
now
that
the
new
rates
are
in
place,
we
actually
have
a
different
rate
moving
since
the
beginning
of
2023
that
we
can
charge
the
the
treat
and
treatment
and
delivery
of
non-eating
agricultural
water
to
Desert
Hills
customers
well,.
A
N
Well,
part
of
this
is
also
in
2022.
We
were
serving
the
majority
of
the
Carefree
customers,
so
that's
about
300
acre
feet
total
once
they're
off,
so
the
the
bulk
of
the
transfers
are
actually
occurring
now
so
last
year
there
was
some
transfers
done,
but
it
was
smaller
neighborhoods.
So
the
bulk
of
the
Carefree
customers
will
come
off
the
system.
This.
N
So
this
is
something
we
refer
to
as
our
server.
When
we
talk
about
loss
encounter
for
water,
we
actually
look
at
it
a
little
bit
differently
from
a
regulatory
standpoint.
Is
it's
our
non-revenue
water
and
that's
a
specific
term
and
some
see
something
that
we
talked
to
when
we
we
deal
with
the
Arizona
Department
of
Water
Resources
and
that's
the
water
we
deliver
to
the
system
versus
what
we've
actually
built
to
customers.
N
So
we're
looking
at
this
and,
as
you
can
see
on
the
the
non-revenue
water
percentage
is
at
6.5
percent
in
Cave,
Creek
Water
System
you'll
still
see
the
same
jump
in
October.
That
was
because
of
the
longer
period,
but
you
can
see
the
green
line
on
the
top
of
the
chart
is
showing
the
treated
water
going
into
the
system
every
month,
and
then
we
have
our
deliveries
to
our
different
customer
groups.
Our
Cave
Creek
and
carefreeze,
the
orange
on
the
bottom
and
the
red
is
the
Desert
Hills
tie-in
meters,
the
time
meters.
N
N
We
have
a
later
slide
that
actually
talks
about
the
groundwater,
we're
able
to
get
out
of
the
aquifer
and
Desert
Hills.
But
this
is
really
talking
about
our
cap
allocations.
N
The
next
slide
is
specific
to
Desert
Hills,
so
this
actually
does
include
the
well
so
the
Green
in
this
graph
includes
the
interconnect
so
the
care
for
the
Cave
Creek
treated
cap,
water
and
the
well
water
that
actually
doesn't
apply
to
different
customers
out
there
and
the
orange
bars
are
actually
what
we
build
each
month.
So
in
that
case
we're
this
number
of
the
non-revenue
number
comes
out
to
just
over
over
four
percent
this
next
year.
We
expect
that
to
to
increase
in
the
Cave
Creek
to
decrease
for
one
specific
reason.
N
When
we
built
the
rates
moving
forward,
we
actually
put
in
a
treatment
and
transmission
loss
number
into
the
water,
the
K,
the
cap,
water,
that
we
delivered
to
Desert
Hills.
So
we're
going
to
shift
some
of
the
the
treatment
loss
burden
on
the
system
to
Desert
Hills,
so
we'll
balance
the
two
of
them
out,
so
that
was
some
completing
that
we
did
with
the
rate
study.
So
foreign
we'll
talk
about.
You
know
how
water
comes
in
and
out
of
the
treatment
plant,
it's
a
complicated
little
site.
Is
there
a
compact
site?
N
And
if
anybody
wants
to
get
a
tour
we
can
we
can
offer
that
up
so
in
desert
in
Basin
Road
in
front
of
the
plant.
We
actually
have
the
16
inch
cat
pipeline.
There's
two
connections
to
the
plant.
To
that
one
goes
to
the
Paul
filters
on
the
bottom
of
the
page
and
the
second
goes
into
the
West
Tech
filters
inside
the
buildings.
The
the
pipeline
then
continues
it
Narrows
down
to
an
eight
inch
line
and
then
continues
to
the
ranch,
Manana
golf
course.
N
So
we
have
a
valve
at
the
top
end
and
a
meter
that
allows
us
to
monitor
the
flows
of
raw
cap,
water
deliveries
and
then
on
site.
We
have
a
couple
other
meters,
so
we
want
to
do
this
graphic
every
time,
just
to
explain
it
to
you
and
sort
of
reminds
myself
of
where
the
different
water
sources
are
moving
at
the
plant.
N
So
as
we
treat
water
on
the
plant
right
now,
when
the
Paul
filters
aren't
able
to
treat
water,
we're
typically
using
mostly
Paul
Treatment,
especially
right
now,
with
lower
flows
in
the
system,
and
we
use
the
west
Texas
backup
as
the
system
and
grows,
the
proportionality
goes
more
towards
a
50
50
balance
of
the
site.
The
there's
a
cap,
some
of
the
cap
water,
gets
diverted
because
the
whole
filters
are
actually
like
a
very
constant
pressure,
but
a
variable
flow
and
the
cap
pipeline
can't
deliver
that.
N
So
we
put
some
of
the
water
into
the
reclaimed
pit
that
reclaim
it
is
actually
also
where
the
backwash
Waters
we
clear
the
clean.
The
Trident
filters
out
goes
to
in
that
water
sense
of
the
golf
course.
So
so
we
provide
them
either.
Raw
cap,
water
or
some
of
our
back
wash
or
bypass
water
from
the
plant
site
itself,
and
we
are
looking
to
see
if
there's
a
project
on
the
books
this
year
to
see
if
we
can
help
make
the
polls
run
a
little
more
efficiently.
N
So
this
is
a
number
in
this
I'll
explain
this
graphic
real
quickly,
just
because
it
can
be
very
confusing,
so
the
the
bar
at
the
top,
the
blue
line,
is
actually
the
cap
meter
at
the
cap,
Canal
that
is
actually
showing,
as
reported
by
cap.
We
actually
have
that
meter
and
I'm
actually
talking
to
Ryan
about
next
time,
we're
actually
going
to
show
both
that
when
cfp
actually
measures
the
meter,
the
Water
we
take
off
the
cap
for
now
they
actually
round
it
to
the
nearest
acre
foot.
N
So
if
we
take
out
8.5
acre
feet,
actually
they
show
it
daily
they'll
round
it
to
to
eight
acre
feet.
So
there
is
a
little
bit
imbalance
there.
We
do
have
a
project,
oh
I,
don't
think
we're
gonna
get
to
it
this
year
to
actually
replace
that
meter
on
the
cap
pipeline
at
the
at
the
cap
canal
with
a
what
they
refer
to
as
a
MAG
meter,
which
is
a
more
accurate
meter.
N
It's
just
my
honest
feeling
is:
is
I,
don't
think
we
can
do
it
until
after
the
interconnect
site
is
done
because
we're
gonna
have
to
take
the
pipeline
down
and
the
risk
to
something
happening
to
that
site
and
we're
only
going
to
have
a
very
short
window
of
time
less
than
a
day
to
do
that,
even
in
the
middle
of
winter
time.
So
we
have
an
electrical
upgrade.
N
We
need
to
do
and
add
that
meter
down
there
so
that'll
be
sort
of
the
final
piece
of
the
puzzle
of
our
water
accounting
to
make
sure
we've
got
the
best
metering
weekend.
The
meter
was
down,
there
was
actually
installed
in
2017
and
it's
reporting
better
than
the
old
meter.
But
when
we
add
the
meters
together,
you
also
get
inaccuracies
and
that's
that
sort
of
shows
up
on
this
graph
because
we're
we're
different
types
of
meters
at
different
locations.
So
it
looks
like
we
are
making
one
or
a
wish.
N
In
fact,
if
we're
not
it's
just
a
water
accounting
here,
but
the
big
takeaway
is
that
yeah
we
do.
This
is
trying
to
show
just
a
graphic
for
for
Council
to
see
where
the
water
is
being
moved
in
the
system.
Sean.
A
N
Original
meter
was
actually
it's:
it's
an
insertion
meter.
It's
a
it
used
to
be
a
paddle
Paddle,
Wheel
type
of
meter,
so
that
was
actually
dates
back
to
the
original
construction
of
the
pipeline.
In
1990.
We
don't
have
any
records
if
it
had
been
replaced
before
then,
but
around
2017.
There
was
notice
given
to
us
by
the
central
Arizona
project
staff,
asking
us
to
do
an
update
to
that.
The
paddle
type,
which
is
mechanical
wheel,
got
removed
and
actually
an
ultrasonic
got
placed
into
it,
but
it
is
still
an
insertion
type
of
computer.
N
So
that's
where
the
inaccuracy
is
coming,
the
ultimate
would
be
to
again
we
have
to
cut
into
the
16-inch
Pipeline
and
put
a
MAG
meter
in
which
means
we
have
to
physically
take
the
site
out.
We
have
to
drain
the
pipeline
cut
into
it.
So
it's
a
very
invasive
project,
but
we
will
get
a
better
metering
at
that
point.
Okay,
thanks
foreign.
N
A
drought,
so
something
that
we
take
care
of
or
watch
for
in
our
system
is,
is
where
we're
using
the
water
for
our
Municipal
operations.
We
still
have
to
flush
the
system.
We
still
have
hydrants
flushing
to
do
we're,
trying
to
get
into
more
directional
flushing
in
the
system,
which
is
helpful
to
the
system
and
we
actually
still
have
leaks.
N
But
the
one
takeaway
from
this
graphic
is
that
you
know
we
actually
had
very
few
leaks
last
year,
but
except
for
November
and
I
mentioned
at
the
last
meeting
to
council,
because
it
actually
just
happened
at
that
time
and
I'll
point
out
again.
This
time
we
had
two
major
breaks,
but
we've
been
really
watching
this
and
to
make
sure
that
our
water
losses
is
down.
In
this
case
from
the
total
trap
water
cap,
water
treated,
the
water
losses
is
about
only
0.5
percent
of
the
system.
N
So
it's
something
we
watched
closely.
We
actually
are
looking
at
a
different
technology
for
flushing
of
the
system.
It's
a
skid
mounted
trailer
unit
that
allows
you
to
flush
between
hydrants
or
blow
off.
So
you
don't
lose
water,
it's
fairly
costly,
but
it
could
prove
to
be
beneficial,
especially
in
areas
where
we
don't
have
good,
boosting
booster
pump
stations
to
allow
us
to
really
scour
the
lines
clean.
N
So
that's
something
we're
looking
into
long-term
the
town's
Network
and
our
distribution
system
has
a
lot
of
long
dead,
end
lines
and
a
lot
of
areas
with
low
demand,
so
I
think
we'll
have
to
always
continue
to
do
flushing
operations
which
we're
very
watchful
because
I
know,
there's
your
perception
too.
What
of
what?
Why
is
the
town
flushing
the
system?
Why
do
we
have
hydro
flushers
in
the
system,
but
we
need
to
do
that
for
water
quality,
water,
age
issues,
so.
N
Looks
like
so
I
mentioned
the
two,
the
big
spike
that
we
had
in
November
and
that
was
on
the
left
hand.
Side
was
on.
There
was
a
six
inch
line
on
Cave
Creek
Road.
It
was
a
north
side
of
Cave,
Creek
Road
east
of
Schoolhouse
Road.
It
was
a
hard
line
to
isolate,
well
staff
were
able
to
get
down
to
it.
The
problem
we
had
is
the
valving
in
the
area
was
was
hard
to
isolate
for
us.
N
The
second
one
was
on
the
the
South
Bank
of
Cave
Creek,
wash
where
Cave
Creek
sort
of
jogs.
It's
a
six
inch
line
that
continues
North
across
the
wash
so
yeah
that
that
broke,
and
in
a
matter
of
a
few
hours
we
lost
a
couple
of
million
gallons
of
water.
That's
how.
N
High
the
pressures
are
in
the
system
and
and
in
that
soil
condition
it
just.
It
went
very
quickly.
We
were
lucky
that
a
contractor
was
able
to
help
us
out.
You
can
see
the
size
of
the
excavation
to
get
down
to
that.
This
is
just
at
the
top
of
the
bank,
and
then
it
drops
down
the
bank
about
30
feet
and
then
crosses
the
wash
and
in
the
wash
itself,
is
about
25
feet
deep.
So.
F
N
This
is
a
major
stress
point
for
me
in
the
system,
but
it's
something
that
I'll
give
a
lot
of
credit
to
the
staff
for
both
of
these
breaks
and
responding
very
quickly
for
the
one
we
actually
had
an
outside
contractor
Larson
construction.
A
local
vendor
was
able
to
come
out
and
help
us
out
with
the
excavation
because
we
don't
own
a
track
home.
So
yeah.
G
I
have
a
question
about
this,
see
that's
on
the
outside
of
a
Bend
of
Cave
Creek,
so
that
am
I,
correct
yeah.
So,
even
though
that
pipe
is
buried
quite
deeply,
the
amount,
the
tons
of
material
that
come
down,
Cave,
Creek
and
major
floods
can
cause
major
issues.
Are
there
plans
to
change
the
positioning
of
that
pipe
so
that
it
is
less
susceptible
to
we.
N
Haven't
there's
actually
armoring
at
that
point,
we're
on
the
outside
of
the
bend
and
they're?
Actually,
this
is
where
a
break
occurred
to
Blue.
It
was
2014
or
15.,
and
it
took
this
line
out.
Initially,
the
town
did
some
local
repairs
and
then
we
were,
you
can
see
just
the
bottom
of
the
pipe
there's.
Actually,
an
old
abandoned,
Southwest
Gas
Line,
that's
in
there
with
so
Southwest
Gaston
came
back
and
and
they
moved
about
50
feet
to
the
East
and
they
ran
a
new
line
or
to
the
West.
N
N
Is
the
the
pipe
got
bowed
and
then
it
got
to
the
point
that
it
fractured
and
basically
we
had
a
longitudinal
split
that
was
about
22
feet,
long
and
or
basically
the
entire
length
of
a
stick
of
a
pipe
from
Bell
to
to
spigot
end
on
the
entire
pipe
just
snapped.
That's
why
we
had
such
a
rush
out
of
water
out
of
the
pipe
it
was
an
attention
configuration
there
was
actually
rocks
holding
it
underneath
in
the
the
two
ends,
just
started,
settling
and
just
snapped.
N
N
Caused
stress:
that's
very
common
throughout
our
entire
system
of
the
the
we
were,
they
would
dig
a
trench
and
instead
of
putting
any
what
you
normally
do,
is
you
put
some
engineer
materials,
maybe
or
some
sand
or
something
to
shade
it
from
the
trench?
And
then
you
start
back
filling
up.
They
just
put
the
native
back
in
and
or
they
put
the
pipe
right
on
the
on
the
on
the
bottom,
so
either
onto
the
rocks
or
the
caliche
Etc,
and
that's
our
one
I'd
say
one
other
or
the
largest
problem.
N
We
have
in
the
distribution
system.
So
because
that
puts
long-term
stress
on
the
pipes.
It
gives
you
pressure,
points
pinpoints
and
or
in
this
case
it
was
a
stress
in
the
entire
pipe
which
is
bowed
because
it
was
constrained
in
the
center.
But
the
two
ends
started
to
settle.
G
N
How
you
go
out
and
cataloging
and
capture
it?
So
you
know
I'll,
give
credit
to
the
staff
of
being
very
responsive,
and
especially
on
this
case,
that
you
know.
Sadly,
we
put
the
customers.
This
is
a
single
point
of
crossing
and
I
think
there's
12
or
14
customers,
and
we
had
to
have
a
out
of
service
overnight,
because
we
couldn't
you
know
we
started
the
we
isolated,
The,
Break,
probably
about
four
or
five
o'clock
in
an
evening.
N
It
just
wasn't
safe
to
dig
so
we
waited
till
the
next
day
and
dug
it
out.
So
we
worked
with
those
residents
bringing
us
to
model
water,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
single
points
of
failure
and
system
for
people
like
that
that
you
know,
if
we
have
a
large
pipeline
break,
that
we
have
a
number
of
people
out
of
service.
So
it's
it's
great
that
we
have
local
contractors
that
we
can
work
with
to
help
us
out
with
the
equipment
that
we
don't
have.
So
as.
N
The
biggest
project,
so
we
don't,
we
have
a
bit
of
a
line
replacement
program.
What
we've
actually
been
using
it
for
in
in
recent
years
since
I've
been
here,
is
actually
more
looping
in
the
system
which
we
talking,
which
helps
us
out,
because
we
do
have
a
break.
If
we
have
a
loop
water
system,
then
you
can
still
provide
service
to
customers.
You
just
have
to
isolate
the
brake
area.
So
that's
what
we've
been
doing.
N
We've
got
a
couple
of
projects
in
Desert
Hills,
where
we've
been
working
with
some
developers
out
there
to
Loop
the
system.
We
work
with
Maricopa
County
last
year
to
actually
add
a
a
line
of
20th
Street
north
of
Cloud
Road,
which
helped
us
Loop,
an
area
that
had
a
single
there's
150
customers,
who
only
had
one
six
inch
line,
feeding
the
area.
So
if
we
had
a
break
in
that
line,
did
all
the
out
of
service.
Now
we
have
a
backup,
eight
inch
that
feeds
into
the
same
area.
N
Over
the
years
the
town
has
actually
gone
into
on
Black
Mountain.
It's
a
great
example
when
the
town
bought
the
system.
My
understanding,
the
first
number
of
years
we
were
spending
a
measurable
amount
of
staff,
time
almost
weekly
on
Black
Mountain,
just
repairing
the
lines.
A
lot
of
them
were
just
two
inch
galvanized
lines
above
the
desert
sitting
above
the
ground
because
they
didn't
even
trench
them.
So
all
of
that
has
been
replaced.
We
have
one
small
section
800
feet
on
Kahuna,
that
I
gotta
get
out
of
the
system.
N
G
N
Next,
we
switch
over
to
our
Wastewater
side
of
the
system.
This
graphic
is
showing
the
flows
that
at
the
Water
Ranch
we
typically
measure.
We
actually
have
a
good
meter
now
to
measure
the
raw
incoming
flow
into
the
system,
but
we
we
use
this
as
the
effluent
flows
leaving
the
plant.
This
is
the
the
treated
effluent,
that's
that's
sent
through
the
plant,
and
then
we
send
this
up
to
the
reichmann
golf
course.
You
can
see
the
trends.
N
2020
is
the
blue
2021,
it's
the
red
and
then
the
solid
orange
20
is
20
22..
So
on
total
we
are
we're
trending
down
a
little
bit
total.
For
the
years
we
went
from
210
acre
feet
in
2020
to
207.
Now
we're
at
just
over
200
acre
feet,
but
you
can
see
at
the
end
of
20
22.
We
actually
saw
a
little
pop-up
in
the
amount
of
flow,
but
the
total
flow
was
a
little
bit
less
that
year.
The
last
few
years
have
been
anomaly.
N
You
know
the
the
blue
line
is
really
showing
what
happened
to
covid.
When
people
were
had
to
stay
in
town
they
didn't
leave,
and
then
we
had
a
number
of
people
in
our
Wastewater
flow
stayed
higher.
We
had
more
customers
in
the
in
the
Wastewater
industry.
We
saw
that
and
then
it
dropped
down
quickly.
So
it's
we've
had
some
anomaly
in
our
Trends
I.
Think
2022
is
more
accurate
to
what
we'll
we'll
see
moving
forward
but
we'll
find
out
next
year,
but
I
do
believe.
N
N
For
right
now,
our
effluent
all
gets
sent
up
to
the
Rancho
Manana
Golf
Course,
there's
three
Lake
system
we
deliver
to
the
east
lake
and
we
deliver
both
affluent
from
our
wastewater
treatment
plant
and
the
back
wash
water
are
all
cap
water
to
the
East
Lake
there's
two
pipelines:
they
they
exit
into
the
lake
about
10
feet
apart
and
then
they
Cascade
into
the
middle
and
then
the
the
West
Lake
is
actually
where
the
Overflow
for
the
golf
course
irrigation
booster
is
or
the
the.
L
N
So
this
is
the
2022
deliveries
to
the
Rancho
manana
on
the
bottom
is
our
our
treated
effluent,
because
right
now
the
only
place
we
can
put
that
treated
effluent
is
in
in
the
into
the
golf
system.
The
red
is
actually
the
rock
Apple
water
or
no.
The
raw
cap
water
is
the
the
cap,
divert
water
from
the
Palm
membrane
system
and
reclaimed
water
from
the
West
Tech
filters
to
backwash
water,
so
hopefully
with
project.
We
do
this
year
that
red
bar.
N
We
have
some
control
over,
because
we
can
reuse
some
of
that
cap
raw
cap,
diver
water
and
actually
push
it
back
into
the
pipeline
to
get
beneficial
use
out
of
it,
and
then
the
blue
on
top,
is
when
they've
asked
us
for
deliveries
of
over
and
above
as
per
the
contract,
they
get
metered
on
the
water
they
take
out.
But
during
the
summer
time,
because
of
the
the
amount
of
water
we
deliver
up
there
versus
the
amount
of
water
they
use.
There's
a
huge
disparity
and
their
Lake
system
drops
this
year.
N
I
think
it
drops
at
least
I'd,
say
10
to
12
feet.
So
we
had
the
Lower
Lake
was
pretty
empty,
so
we
we
have
to
send
them.
Some
water
you'll
see
a
July
in
August
or
August
September.
Sorry,
we
supplemented
very
little.
That
was
because
we
had
some
Monsoon
storms,
so
we
did
not
send
them
that
much,
but
then
right
going
into
October
and
they
get
into
overseeding
operations
and
they're
using
so
much
water
so
quickly.
We
can't
keep
up
with
them.
N
So
it's
a
dynamic
system
that
definitely
we
need
to
to
work
with
them
on
to
make
better
for
us
than
the
next
slides
will
help
show
that
is.
The
imbalance
between
the
contract
is
written,
that
they
only
get
billed
for
what
they
use
and
take
off
the
lake,
not
for
what
we
deliver
to
them.
So
the
blue
is
showing
that
that
the
the
total
deliveries
that
we
sent
to
them
versus
what
we've
built
been
able
to
build
each
month
to
them.
You
can
see,
say
August.
N
When
we
had
some
really
gun
Monsoon
storms,
we
really
can't
you
know
we
have
to
send
them
all
the
we
send
them
all
the
backwash
water,
it's
either.
We
send
it
to
them
or
we
send
it
down
to
the
sewer
plant,
which
then
sends
it
up
to
them.
So
that's
our
system
right
now,
so
we
have
very
little
flexibility
right
now
and
you
can
see
the
gaps
that
arise
in
the
system.
So
what
we
term
is
non-revenue
water
because
we
can't
build
them
for
that.
N
And
this
next
slide
sort
of
shows
where
the
losses
are
coming
from.
We
we
think
we
have
a
good.
We
calculate
the
pond
evaporation
because
we
actually
have
a
a
lake
at
Lake.
Pleasant
Maricopa
County
has
an
evaporation
system
of
a
pan,
evaporation
system
that
we
think
we
can
use
as
a
good
calculation.
We
can.
N
We
have
a
meter
on
the
Overflow,
so
if
the
Lakes
do
overflow,
we
actually
do
record
that
number
and
then
the
difference
between
that,
as
we
assume,
is
the
lake
leakage,
so
you
can
see
evaporation
just
under
40
acre
feet.
Overflow
was
last
year
about
just
under
60
acre
feet
years.
N
Prior
that's
gone
up
to
about
75
acre
feet,
so
we're
trying
to
manage
that
by
sending
less
water,
which
is
the
the
how
the
it's
really
the
waste
the
water
treatment
plant,
how
it
can
operate
and
the
little
less
water
that
we
have
in
the
effluent
system.
And
then
the
lake
liner
is
about
27
acre
feet
is
what
our
estimate
is,
so
we
definitely
have
to
have
a
discussion
with
them
as
we
move
forward
to
help
make
this
a
more
efficient
system.
But
the
fact
that
we
can
measure.
N
Or
calculate
this
and
have
that
discussion
with
them
about
what
we
want
to
do
moving
forward
and
the
contract
is
in
place
is,
is
valid
until
2020
2049
without
any
amendments.
So
I,
don't
think
that's
something
we
can
deal
with
until
that
point.
So
I.
N
Yeah
staff
we
do
not
attend
to,
we
want
to
have
start
some
conversations
with
them
and
then
you
know
with
the
master
plan,
we
can
look
out.
You
know,
as
we
can
make
the
water
treatment
plant
more
efficient.
N
That
gives
a
little
more
control
over
it,
but
then
we
run
into
situations
where
again,
when
they're
in
an
overseed
in
operation,
we
can't
deliver
water
fast
enough
to
them
and
then,
during
the
summer
time
we
can't,
but
overall
in
the
year
the
system
is
just
not
working
in
our
favor
and
we
need
to
get
a
handle
on
it.
That's
the
town's
Water
Resources.
N
330
acre
feet,
and-
and
it's
above
that
they
have
to
request
and
it
gets
charged
to
double.
The
problem
is
that
when
they
meter
it
on
an
annual
basis,
what
because
we
meter
at
what
they
use
it's
typically
around
300
acre
feet
is
what
they
take
out
of
the
lake
system.
So.
N
A
N
N
A
M
A
Got
to
be
I
mean
if
the
one
of
the
biggest
problems
this
contract
is
there's
no
Force
measure.
They
get
the
first
drop
of
water.
You
know
if
we
run
out
of
water
they're
still
using
the
golf
course
officially,
so
it
is
absolutely.
N
You
know
they've
been
trying
to
be
better
stewards
as
the
water
on
the
golf
course,
because
if
I
look
back
over
the
usage
of
the
buildings,
they
have
decreased
their
usage.
It's
just
you
know.
It's.
The
imbalance
of
our
deliveries
to
the
system
is
the
problem,
and
is
there
more
things
that
we
can
do?
Could
we
be
recharging
the
water
when
they
don't
need
it?
So
we
get
beneficial
use
out
of
it
and
then
deliver
them
say
ground
our
recovered
water.
So
there's
other
ways
we
can
look
at
dealing
with
this
on
our
side.
Yeah.
A
A
N
I've
already
worked
with
Michelle
vanquisen
and
had
some
discussions
with
her
of
how
we
can
approach
this
and
we
do
need
to
have.
You
know,
send
the
ranch
Manana
a
letter
outlining
what
our
concerns
are
and
then
having
just
starting
the
meetings
with
them.
It's
not
you
know,
there's
going
to
have
to
be
some
some
sort
of
improvements
made
either
on
their
side
of
the
system.
We
do
believe
against
some
inefficiencies
on
just
the
the
the
lake
system.
N
It's
an
amenity
for
the
golf
course
could
they
reduce
the
size
of
the
Lakes,
which
would
which
would
proportionately
reduce
the
evaporation.
We
do
think
that
there
are
some
issues
with
the
liner
this
past
summer,
when
it
got
so
low.
We
were
actually
able
to
go
in
and
do
some
observations
and
add
a
third-party
contractor
looked
at
the
lake,
it's
not
our
Lake,
but
they
did
a
report
on
it
and
they
said
yeah
there's
some
some
concerns
and
we
shared
that
with
Rancho
mananas.
A
I
mentioned
before
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
have
to
do
is
looking
taking
grass
out
and
and
re-veging
it
to
to
Native
vegetation.
It
doesn't
require
watering.
I
mean
there,
there's
just
a
lot
of
things.
I
think
we
can
do
I
think
we've
got
to
Define
what
happens
in
the
case
of
a
shortage.
We
need
to
we've
done
some
things
over
the
year
that
are
over
and
above
the
contract.
A
N
Moving
head
into
a
regulatory
side,
the
town
does
have
backflow
preventers.
We
manage
a
backflow
prevention
program
right
now
we
have
646
devices
and
these
are
the
devices
that
help
protect
the
system.
Where
there's
concern
that
there
could
be
a
potential,
backflow
and
and
water
delivered
to
customers
actually
coming
back
into
the
system.
That's
how
we
Define
a
backflow.
So
when
you
see
compliance
71
in
the
non-compliance,
30
so
of
the
30
28.8
on
this
slide,
that's
actually
the
customers
who
received
their
first
notice,
saying
they
have
still
60
days
to
comply.
N
So
it's
not
that
their
devices
that
are
are
not
are
failed.
It's
just
the
fact
that
we
asked
for
an
annual
inspection,
so
I'm
trying
to
think
of
a
better
way
to
display
this
to
council,
but
that's
how
the
report
gets
generated
out
of
the
system,
but
so
customers
sometimes
forget.
So
that's
why
we
have
the
program.
It
reminds
them
to
say
you
have
60
days
to
comply
and
and
unmasked
people
do
comply
in
that
time
frame.
N
N
And
we
have
our
pre-treatment
program.
I've
mentioned
this
several
times,
so
we're
we're
actually
moving
ahead.
We're
trying
to
make
that
more
efficient.
Sorry
for
the
details
on
the
slides.
The
text
is
way
too
small.
So
we've
done
a
full
inventory
of
both
active
and
inactive
there's,
actually
a
few
inactive,
because
there's
been
restaurants
and
other
uses
in
in
the
town
that
actually
have
existing
devices
that
are
now
no
longer
in
service.
So
we've
gone
out
done
the
inventory
we've
got
them
mapped
out.
N
We
went
even
step
further
because
the
it's
it's
sometimes
referred
to
the
grease
Interceptor
program.
It's
actually
called
the
pre-treatment
Interceptor,
it's
it's
removing
anything
that
can
be
detrimental
to
either
the
collection
system
or
the
wastewater
treatment
plant.
So
it
includes
sand
oil,
interceptors
and
grease
traps
which
are
typically
smaller.
So
we've
got
that
full
inventory
and
now,
with
the
new
race
that
we've
set
we're
actually
charging
everybody's
now
we're
having
this
full
inventory
and
doing
the
new
rates
we're
now
charging
the
customers
appropriately.
N
We
are
doing
introducing
a
new
online
program
for
this
program
called
Swift
comply,
which
is
another.
Where
allows
the
vendors
to
log
in
upload
the
information
it's
going
to
reduce
the
amount
of
staff
time
involved
and
then,
instead
of
us
typically,
when
I
first
started,
we
would
have
a
staff
member
going
out
monthly
to
the
interceptors
and
checking
on
them.
N
It's
going
to
be
more
if
we're
going
to
just
go
out
to
the
vendors
and
check
on
them,
do
more
spot
checks
and
then
they
but
they're
still
providing
us
the
Manifest
that
the
information
is
being
done
and
they
can
upload
things
like
pictures
and
stuff
like
that.
So
if
we
think
we
have
a
problem
that
we
can
actually
go
out
and
do
more
more
I'd,
say
enforcement,
but
we'll
go
do
more
checking
on
that
and
if
it
has
to,
we
can
go
to
enforcement
on
on
the
program
itself.
N
I
mentioned
before,
but
the
the
disconnects
of
the
Carefree
system,
Council
manager
direct,
sent
out
a
note
last
week,
so
there
has
been
a
little
bit
of
a
change.
So
neighborhood
a
is
the
I'd
like
to
say
the
last
area,
but
it's
the
largest
area
being
changed
out.
So
everything
in
neighborhood
C,
which
is
the
area
north
of
Cave
Creek
Road
around
the
bend
around
Tom
Darlington.
That's
all
been
converted.
N
Neighborhood
B
is
the
area
just
south
of
there
running
up
into
the
Hawks
Nest
and
Nighthawk
neighborhoods.
That's
going
to
be
the
last
area
to
be
converted.
Carefree
has
to
do
a
booster
station
upgrade
so
that
they
can
provide
the
presser
pressures
necessary
to
take
that
off.
So
their
focus
has
been
of
recent
as
taking
over
neighborhood
a
which
is
the
area
Northeast
of
Carefree
Highway,
which
is
the
bulk
of
the
water
meters
and
coming
up
this
week.
There'll
be
one
large
conversion.
There
was
supposed
to
be
two
planned
this
week.
N
It
got
deferred
so
it'll
be
one
this
week
and
then
one
next
week,
and
that
will
take
over
probably
two-thirds
of
the
meters.
In
that
neighborhood
a
will
be
converted,
then
they
will
probably
about
three
weeks
later
take
over
the
not
the
remainder
of
them.
But
a
large
portion
will
come
off
in
about
three
weeks
and
then
they
have
to
start
working
on
Crossing
Carefree
Road,
there's
three
new
pipelines
that
they
need
to
construct
to
reach
over
to
a
Creek
Canyon
Road.
N
There's
the
neighborhood
that
they're
taking
over
there
so
they're
bringing
a
new
eight
inch
line
across
and
then
there's
two
others
that
are
coming
around
the
low
CVS
and
Store
Quest
area.
So
there's
a
total
of
three
crossings
that
they
actually
will
come
east
west
across
the
road
and
allow
them
to
take
the
rest
of
the
customers
over
Sean.
G
We've
seen
a
lot
of
construction
along
Carefree
highways
that
a
part
of
the
change
in
water
service.
Yes,.
N
A
lot
of
it
this
past
year,
they
spent
a
lot
of
time
bringing
a
new
16-inch
pipeline
across
Carefree
Highway
from
Tom
Darlington
over
right
now,
they're
working
on
the
new
interconnect
site
that
they
have
with
Scott
still
at
60th
Street
on
the
south
side
of
the
road.
So
there's
a
new
interconnect
site
over
there
that
there
that
allows
them
between
that
and
the
new
Reservoir
site
that
they've
built
to
feed
into
the
area
and
get
the
proper
pressures
well.
N
We
don't
it's
taking
some
staff
time,
but
I'll
I'll,
give
credit
to
Carefree
is,
is
working
with
us
and-
and
you
know,
they're
they've
they've
helped
us
out
and
got
us
in
a
good
situation
show
at
the
disconnect
locations.
It's
it's
worked
out
in
our
favor
that
we've
we
haven't
been
left
with
a
bad
situation.
Yet
so
most
of
the
disconnects
are
happening
in
this
next
couple
of
weeks
with
actual
physical
construction
of
the
system.
N
The
other
ones
up
north
were
actually
smaller,
are
more
isolated,
disconnects
where
there's
actually
in
this
another
southern
area,
neighborhood
a
there's,
a
total
of
10
disconnect
locations
being
constructed
so
and
they're
through
a
number
of
them,
but
they
have
to
back
feed
the
system,
so
they
get
the
proper
pressure
to
their
customers.
But
it's
I'll
give
credit
card.
It's
been
a
good
working
relationship
with
their
staff
and
their
contractor.
N
I
have
not
you
know,
I've
just
been
more
focused
on
making
sure
that
the
the
town
is
is
kept.
The
best
situation
possible
and
working
on
that
so
I
know.
Greg
Crossman
has
his
hands
full
and
he's
dealing
with
the
construction
costs
over.
I
N
D
N
I
would
say
no
because
you
know
I
think
because
we
provide
good
quality
water
and
you
know
for
the
agreement,
there's
still
an
interconnect
site
between
the
systems,
so
it
just
got
relocated
it's
from
Tom
Darlington
to
Bella,
Vista
Drive.
So
you
know
I
I'd
say
no.
You
know,
I,
think
the
our
staff
I'll
give
credit
to
our
staff
have
been
doing
a
really
good
job.
The
improvements
that
have
been
made
to
the
distribution
system
to
also
the
treatment
plant
itself,
so
so.
L
N
Update
on
overall
Town,
Water
Resources,
so
again
a
lot
of
numbers
on
here
and
get
some
feedback
from
Council,
whether
they
liked
it
or
not.
The
total
delivered
at
the
turnout.
Again
we
earlier
slide.
It
was
just
over
2
000
acre
feet.
That's
that's
what
we
metered
going
to
plant
the
actual
meter
at
the
turnout,
as
measured
by
the
cap
meter,
as
they
report
to
us
is
1975
acre
feet
so
last
year
that
included
some
of
the
m
I
water.
N
Last
year
we
were
able
to
start
recharging,
so
we
have
770
acre
feet
of
now
long-term
storage
resources,
which
is
a
great
benefit
to
the
town.
So
you
know
by
the
time
this
this
time
next
year,
I
believe
we'll
actually
have
close
to
1500
acre
feet
in
the
ground,
so
it'll
be
almost
a
full
Year's
worth
of
water
supply
for
the
Cave
Creek
Water
System,
excluding
Desert,
Hills
customers
and
long-term
storage
credits.
So
it's
something
really
a.
A
N
Worth
yeah
because,
what's
happening
with
the
delay
in
the
transfer
of
the
Municipal
and
Industrial
Water
Supplies,
the
arrangement
we've
had
with
with
Carefree
is
that
since
we're
paying
for
the
water
right
now,
they're
allowing
us
to
because
to
recharge
all
that
we're
actually
getting
an
additional
300
plus
acre
feet
on
top
of
the
500
we'll
be
able
to
do
annually.
So
by
the.
N
D
N
So-
and
this
was
trying
to
show
the
the
deliveries
through
the
system
and
what
we
did
for
recharge
so
last
year,
the
total
deliveries
were
2831
acre
feet,
but
that
included
our
recharge.
So
when
we
talked
this,
this
is
trying
to
attempt
to
show
all
the
town's
Water
Resources
I'll
point
out.
We've
actually
had
some
really
good
conversations.
Ryan
and
I
had
a
conversation
with
adwr
Staff
last
week,
there's
been
a
lot
of
work,
especially
since
we're
starting
the
utility
master
plan
of
this,
of
accounting
for
certificates.
N
N
They've
admitted
that
they're
short
staffed
and
they're
being
swamped
by
development
activity,
but
we're
getting
very
close
to
a
number
that
we
can
agree
on
and
it's
getting
closer
in
our
favor
as
far
as
the
accounting
of
the
systems
and
then
the
end
result
also
is
to
make
sure
that
we
account
for
when
the
transfer,
the
municipal
and
water
rights
get
transferred
to
Carefree
that
those
certificate
just
get
put
on
their
side
of
the
the
table
also.
But
so
it's
a
lot
of
good
work
again.
N
Give
credit
to
my
staff
and
we're
getting
together
so
we'll
have
a
much
better
accounting
as
we
move
forward
of
all
the
certificates
and
what
we
have
available
to
manage.
And
then
the
master
plan
will
help
us
point
out
where
we
think
we
need
to
grow
and
then,
where
how
far
our
resources
will
take
us,
and
then
we
can
factor
in
things
like
long-term
shortages.
You
know
it's
still
a
scary
situation
with
the
Colorado
River
right
now
for
the
town,
especially
since
we
we
have
so
much
reliant
on
that
supply
for
us.
N
So
but
this
this
is
a
good
step
forward
for
us.
I
I
I
have
a
question
since,
since
Desert
Hills
still
doesn't
have
the
aquifer
to
support
the
water,
that's
pumped
out
what
happens
if
they're
aquifer
virtually
gives
us
nothing.
Do
we
have
enough
water
to
support.
N
Right
now,
yeah,
typically,
we've
been
sending
at
least
60
percent.
The
worst
case
was
up
to
70
percent
of
their
water
has
come
from
the
Cave
Creek
System
to
that
area,
I'm
trying
to
work
with
staff
to
better
utilize,
the
three
Wells
that
we
do
have
out
there,
the
one
well
at
Joy,
Ranch
and
Third
Avenue
is
the
groundwater
table
actually
has
not
been
declining.
N
We
have
reduced
the
pumpage
from
this
from
the
reservoir
to
220
gallons
a
minute
from
the
well
sorry,
but
it
seems
like
it's
not
declining
in
that
area,
which
is
a
good
good
good
for
us.
The
problem
right
now
I
see
is,
is
we
still
have
the
interconnect
between
the
fact
that
that
the
largest
production
wall
out
there,
we
can't
just
run
all
the
time
because
it
actually
has
it
has
an
arsenic
blending
program.
N
So
we
have
to
send
220
to
240
gallons
of
cap
water
to
that
site
to
blend
with
the
water
before
we
put
in
the
system
unless
we
have
Wellhead
treatment
out
there
and
that's
something
I'm
going
to
be
proposing
in
the
capital
program
that
we
do
that.
Allow
us
to
better
manage
that
long
term.
It's
it's
a
bit
of
a
roll
of
the
dice.
How
is
the
aquifer
going
to
respond?
There's
so
many
exempt
wells
in
that
area?
N
It's
gonna
be
hard
to
manage,
but
something
we're
looking
at
is.
Is
that
one
well,
our
largest
production?
Well,
the
groundwater
table
has
been
stable,
not
so
much
the
same
with
the
other
two,
which
are
a
little
bit
south
of
there
just
mile
mile
and
a
half
south
of
there
that
the
groundwater
is
is
has
been
more
fluctuating.
So
to
answer
the
one
question
is:
can
we
support
them
right
now?
N
We
we
could
be
able
to
support
them,
but
then
we'd
have
to
have
a
hard
discussion
about
you
know
if
that
happened
more
than
a
year
or
two
you
know,
would
we
have
to
start
looking
out
at
how
we
grow
in
the
system
overall.
N
So
that's
why
we
monitor
it
so
closely:
the
well
production
and
what
water
we're
sending
to
them
and
their
your
usage
as
customers
and
I
think.
That
was
why
it
was
so
important
that
the
Town
Council
allowed
us
to
move
forward
was
the
2021
water
resources
policy
and
then
the
subsequent
changes
to
town
code,
which
allowed
us
to
restrict
new
service
connections
out
in
Desert
Hills
unless
there's
a
contractual
obligation
and
some
other
things.
N
There
still
are
two
developments
that
had
certificates
that
are
on
our
books
in
Desert
Hills
that
can
develop
154
Lots
51
Lots,
together
74
Lots,
so
they
may
have
to
come
forward
and
they
actually
have
to
certificate.
There's
no
way.
I
can
stop
them
at
this
point,
but
just
work
within
working
with
the
developers.
The
only
thing
I
can
do
to
help
them
reduce
their
water
demands
on.
I
The
system
well
I
know
we
have
some
areas
that
at
some
point
will
get
developed.
I
think
Luke
mentioned
there
were
three
areas:
west
of.
I
West
of
48th,
Street
and
kind
of
North,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
develop
that
unless
we
find
some
more
water
right.
G
N
I
think
that
the
pre-annexation
agreements
in
those
cases,
if
I
remember
correctly,
they
state
that
the
way
it
was
word
is
the
the
town
probably
will
not
have
water
resources
to
allow
development
occur.
So
any
development
does
occur.
You
know,
have
a
underlying
zoning.
I
would
have
to
bring
new
water
resources
to
the
town
to
to
treat
and
deliver
to
them.
They
would
be
required
to
be
part
of
our
water
system,
but
they
have
to
bring
the
water
resources
for
us
to
deliver
to
them.
I
Well,
what
I'm,
particularly
concerned
about
when
you
talk
about
the
total
numbers
is,
if
we
do
have
to
in
the
short
term
the
next
year
to
take
more
cap,
hits
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we
can
take
care
of
the
customers
we
already
have
before
we
prioritize
other
stuff.
N
That
again
staff
we
look
at
very
closely
and
try
to
forecast
out
and
we're.
We
keep
abreast
of
the
discussions
with
cap
shortages
yeah
it's
you
know.
It
was
a
hard
pill
to
swallow
that
we
just
had
got
the
new
subcontract
for
the
non-needing
agricultural
water
that
we
purchased
on
behalf
of
the
Desert
Hill
system,
who
only
have
the
the
first.
N
They
were
two
separate
tracks:
They
just
haven't
hit
at
the
same
time,
and
you
know
again,
the
Desert
Hills
customers
are
we're
paying
for
that
water
and
that
was
put
into
the
rate
model,
because
that
that
is
a
a
surface
water
right
that
they
never
had,
and
that
was
helping
to
separate
out
the
systems.
It's
just
with
the
volatility
on
the
cap,
Canal
or
24
years
into
a
drought
situation.
N
N
G
It's
very
fortunate
that
this
year,
there's
been
a
lot
of
snowfall
in
the
Rockies.
That's
going
to
help
us
out
I
think
in
the
short
term,
but
interestingly,
with
with
global
warming,
the
excess
or
the
greater
than
average
snowfall
in
the
Rockies
is
not
panning
out
to
the
same
amount
of
increase
in
the
river.
So
you
know,
hopefully
that
snowfall
will
continue,
and
this
this
snowfall
year
will
continue
to
the
point
that
it
reduces,
or
maybe
at
some
point
eliminates
this
20-year.
23-Year
drought,
yeah.
N
There's
a
lot
of
smart
a
lot
more,
a
lot
of
people,
a
lot
smaller
than
me
who
are
looking
at
this
as
a
full-time
job
of
trying
to
evaluate
this
and
between
that
and
the
water
race
discussions
that
are
going
on
between
the
Basin
States.
You
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
activity
right
now,
so
it's
obviously
we're
keyed
into
it.
We're
we're
a
small
proportion
of
that
in
RNC
water
rates,
but
it's
it's
it's
it's
critical
to
the
town.
So
that's
why
we
need
to
keep
abreast
of
it.
N
Shop,
you
know
what
the
name
are
on
here
for
a
while,
so
I'll,
try
and
wrap
up
here,
but
there's
always
I
always
feel
bad
at
this,
because
every
one
of
my
work
groups
and
I'll
go
across
to
them.
They
they
do
amazing
jobs
and
everything
out
there.
This
happens
to
be
some
work.
That
was
actually
being
done
with
the
the
interconnects,
and
this
is
actually
some
of
the
physical
work.
That's
being
done
so
Carefree
has
a
contractor.
N
N
N
In
this
case,
the
the
white
picture-
there
is
actually
that's-
that's
just
the
break
that
they
put
into
our
Cave
Creek
system,
so
that
the
separation
is
actually
occurring
about
500
feet
away
from
this
location.
They
cap.
They
came
back
and
worked
with
us
and
put
this
cap
in
closer
to
our
location.
So
we
didn't
have
a
500
foot,
dead-end
line.
N
So
what
you
know
what
it
is
a
bracing
cap
between
both
sides
of
it,
the
pipes
separated
the
the
Caps
themselves-
are
actually
anchored
back
to
the
to
it
and
you're,
seeing
it
before
they
price
the
the
concrete
kicker
block
around
that
tire
assembly.
So
it's
not
going
to
move
again
to.
N
N
You
know
our
staff
work
together.
So
one
example
is
that
the
water
Ranch
our
Wastewater
facility,
the
the
distribution
staff,
found
the
six
inch
line.
We
had
a
bunch
of
above
ground
piping
that
over
the
years
the
original
buried
piping
broke.
So
the
staff
had
placed
a
bunch
of
above
ground
piping
to
feed
the
chemical
in
the
outer
scrubber
area.
N
That
became
an
issue
because
it
was
actually
holding
back
water.
It
was
doing
all
kinds
of
things
and
the
volume
was
breaking
so
the
distribution
staff
went
in
and
tapped
a
new
line
to
come
back
out
to
help
the
crew
out.
So
you
know
we
try
to
work
together
whenever
we
can
and
that's
a
good
solution
to
what
was
considered
a
temporary
solution
that
were
done
many
years
ago
and
at
the
Wastewater
Plant.
Some
of
the
some
of
the
big
improvements
we've
had
head
works,
I
think
that's
the
next
slide.
N
I
have
but
we're
continuing
to
work
on
the
aeration
system,
so
the
the
treatment
basins
themselves
after
we
take
out
the
large
material
and
the
head
Works
building
go
into
the
two
SBR
sequence
batch
reactor
basins,
though
probably
the
most
critical
aspect
of
that
is
the
aeration
system,
we're
actually
putting
bubbles
in
they're
actually
supposed
to
be
micro
bubbles
that
actually
both
mix
the
solution
and
actually
add
air
for
the
treatment
to
work
you
can
see
on
the
top.
N
The
old
diffusers
are
we're
largely
clogged
up
and
non-functional,
so
the
new
diffusers
are
going
in.
So
we
have
a
diver,
that's
been
diving
crew.
That's
been
working
on
that
they're,
making
great
Headway
and
they're
finding
some
other
issues
with
some
of
the
piping
I,
give
all
the
credit
to
them.
They're
doing
this,
while
the
basins
are
live
and
not
being
able
to
see
anything
down
there,
they're
actually
doing
all
by
feel
so
between
the
two
basins,
we
have
2
600
aeration
heads
they've
gone
through
about
a
thousand
so
far
or
eight
I.
N
Think
the
800
is
what
we're
up
to
right
now,
so
they're
working
their
way
through
it
and
staff
are
already
noticing
an
improvement
in
the
the
quality
of
the
wastewater
treatment
for
the
basins.
We've
always
they've
always
produced.
The
plant
itself
has
produced
good
high
quality
water,
but
this
is
actually
meaning.
These
basins
are
running
more
efficiently,
which
actually
then
takes
less
burden
off
our
disc
filters
and
our
chlorine
contact
Basin
Downstream.
N
So
this
was
a
well-needed
Improvement,
it's
basically,
the
old
diffusers
had
a
rather
useful
life
so
and
there
I
mentioned
head
works.
So
last
time
I
talked.
We
actually
had
the
new
bar
screen
installed,
which
removes
material
down
to
a
quarter,
inch
material,
and
then,
on
top
of
that
we
have
a
grit
classifier,
so
heavier
materials,
there's
Sands
and
other
things.
Even
coffee
grinds
get
into
the
collection
system.
Those
are
things
that
we
can't
really
treat
in
the
process,
so
we
use
a
below
ground
centrifuge
type
of
assembly.
N
That's
to
then
draw
that
out
what
had
broken
was
the
classifier
unit,
which
actually
then
takes
that
slurry
and
then
compacts
it
and
then
pushes
it
into
a
compactor.
So
that
that
was
the
assembly
was
just
done
just
before
Christmas.
So
so
we
have
our
head
Works
back
in
order
and
we're
doing
a
lot
of
work
on
our
Wastewater
collection
system.
N
Some
people
might
have
noticed
that
last
week
we
had
a
contractor
got
available,
so
we
we
jumped
on
it
and
we
caused
a
little
bit
of
a
headache
for
traffic,
but
we
apologize
for
that,
but
the
sewer
line
on
Cave
Creek
Road
was
overdue
for
a
cleaning
and
we
actually
almost
died.
Some
videoing
done
that
was
just
last
week,
but
before
Christmas
we
were
able
to
get
in
and
do
like
Black
Mountain
Crossing
you're.
Seeing
here
we
actually
found
a
complete
blockage
of
one
of
our
lines.
N
There
was
a
root
intrusion
coming
into
it,
so
it
was
causing
a
complete
backup.
As
you
can
see,
on
the
where
the
star
is
on
the
on
the
right
hand,
side
that
entire
line
was
backed
up.
There
was
very
little
flow
coming
back
through,
but
after
we
did
it,
they
were
able
to
clean
it
out
quite
effectively,
and
we
did
most
of
that.
Actually,
surprisingly,
from
the
south
side
of
the
wash
Galloway
wash,
they
were
able
to
get
up
there
with
both
the
Jetter
and
the
camera.
N
N
Going
to
watch
this
location,
but
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we
do
the
video
inspections
we
set
ourselves
a
goal
of
of
trying
to
clean
the
entire
system.
50
of
this
of
it
every
year,
we're
actually
getting
a
little
ahead,
because
we
we've
we're
gonna
more
than
meet
that
this
year,
because
we're
we
were
backlogged,
so
we're
getting
through
a
lot
of
stuff
and
tried
a
video
every
five
years.
N
So
that
really
the
only
way
you
can
find
problems.
The
collection
system
is
to
video
it
and
yeah,
but
it's
it
takes
a
lot
of
time
to
go
through
it,
but
that'll
give
us
our
Baseline.
So
now
we
can
go
back
in
here
in
a
few
years.
In
this
case,
we'll
probably
go
in
next
year
and
see
what's
going
on,
the
route
was
coming
from
an
adjacent
landowner
or
property
owner's
lateral.
We
actually
worked
with
them
and
they
brought
a
plumber
out
that
day
and
they
got
their
lateral
cleaned
out.
A
That
area
has
a
history
we'll
actually
up
on
the
under
Cave
Creek
Road
has
a
history
of
other
complaints,
and
when
we
were
at
Stagecoach
Village
a
couple
weeks
ago,
they
said
that
they
had
found
some
piping
errors
on
their
property,
where
they
they
put
in
just
plain
PVC,
pipe
from
Home
Depot
and
the
wrong
size.
Pvc
pipe
and
dirt
had
packed
it
up,
and
so
there
are
a
lot
of
odors
coming
out
there
and
they
fixed
that.
N
So
for
two
issues,
because
the
end
stage
coach
passed
stage,
Choice
Village
itself,
we've
actually
worked
very
closely
with
their
HOA
board
and
we've
done
a
couple
of
cleanings
through
that
area
and
and
evaluations
of
that
area.
So
I
think
the
main
line
is
in
good
shape.
What
we
pointed
out
to
them
is
I
think
underneath
their
building
slabs
and
their
common
HOA
Community.
They
have
some
issues
under
slab.
N
Problem
is
sometimes
they
jetted
into
our
system,
so
it
ends
up
our
problem.
So
it's
something
we've
got
to
watch
for,
but
Sansui
that
one's
been
causing
us.
We've
actually
cleaned
that
last
week
again,
we've
got
a
new
video
of
it
and
we're
perplexed.
We're
gonna
bring
an
outside
vendor
in.
We
have
a
vendor
that
works
at
the
wastewater
treatment
plant,
the
Water
Ranch
to
do
monitoring
of
the
the
odor
scrubbers.
We're
going
to
have
them
do
some
logging
of
that
area
and
also
an
area
on
Carefree
Highway
to
find
out.
N
What's
going
on
something
something's
odd
up
there,
because
the
lines
were
you
know
they
needed
a
cleaning,
but
they
weren't
as
dirty
as
what
we
were
smelling
and
observing
in
odors,
and
we
actually
have
been
on
Mountain
View,
Pub
side
and
actually
videoed
their
lines
and
looked
at
them
and
they're
all
clean
and
there's
no
issues,
there's
no
bellies
or
anything.
So
we
can't
figure
out
what
what
happened
and
what
is
happening
up
there.
So
we
need
to
work
on
that.
I.
Think
one
of
the
issues
we're
concerned
about
is
sansui's
lateral.
N
It
goes
about
350,
feet
off
property
and
we're
not
exactly
sure
where
it
goes,
because
we
can't
find
any
clean
outs
on
it,
so
we
may
actually
have
to
cut
into
and
find
it
and
cut
it.
So
we
can
inspect
it
we've
inspected
in
front
of
their
building.
It
was
clean,
so
we
there's
something
going
on
else
up
there
that
we
just
can't
put
our
finger
on
so
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to.
We
have
to
use
an
outside
resource
to
help
us
figure
out.
N
What's
going
on
to
get
the
best
solution
for
town,
because
you
know
we
did
a
bunch
of
improvements
on
the
downstream
sewer
last
year
and
it
seems
like
the
odors
got
so
much
better
and
the
downstream
problems
haven't
not
come
back.
It's
just
up
at
the
top
by
Mountain
View
Pub
in
Sansui,
and
just
we
can't
seem
to
figure
out
what's
going
on
up
there
there.
So
it's
been
frustrating
for
staff.
N
In
addition
to
cleaning,
we've
been
noticing
some
problems
that
we
need
to
deal
with
on
the
Wastewater
side,
so
we
have
it
in
the
capital
program
to
do
both
manhole
rehab
and
actually
line
repairs.
We
found
actually
a
line
down,
53rd
Avenue
and
that's
what
the
picture
on
the
left
is
is
actually
it's
a
ductile
iron
pipe.
The
on
53rd
Avenue
is
fairly
shallow,
shallow
buried.
It's
only
about
3
feet
of
cover,
so
they
use
ductile
iron.
The
problem
is
the
ductile
iron
has
a
ceramic
epoxy.
N
They
call
it
protecto
401,
but
it's
failing
so
effectively.
It's
it's
falling
in
and
what
we
found
is
actually
had
fallen
into
the
point
that
there
was
three
fairly
large
blockages
in
that
line
and
we
believe
that
was
contributing
to
some
odor
problems
that
the
staff
were
observing
on
Carefree
Highway.
So
we
jetted
that
out,
but
as
we
continue
to
Jet
the
line
more
of
the
liner
came
off,
so
it
was.
The
solution
is
that
we
actually
have
to
do
what's
called
a
slip
liner.
N
So
we'll
do
an
aggressive,
clean
through
it
and
actually
put
a
new
plastic
felt
liner
through
the
line.
Their
app
Seas
to
other
locations,
one
coming
out
of
the
Walmart,
where
they
deduct
a
line,
pipe
we're
not
observing
quite
the
level
of
detail
or
of
deterioration,
but
we
figured
we
might
as
well
get
it
done
and
then,
when
the
line
ties
in
and
Carefree
Highway,
the
eight
inch
that
ties
into
the
12
inch.
That's
actually
got
some
problems
too.
N
So
it's
right
in
the
middle
of
the
intersection,
so
we
currently
are
working
with
a
vendor
to
come
up
with
cost
estimates.
On
this
we
have
a
contract
with
BNF
construction.
Council
authorized
that
expenditure
with
them
to
do
some
repairs
so
they're.
Looking
at
this
a
project
on
Rancho
Manana
Boulevard
and
a
crossing
of
Andorra
Hills,
wash
so
they're,
looking
at
all
three
projects
for
us,
so
we'll
see
what
we
can
get
done
with
this
year's
budget
and
then
July
1st.
N
We
have
the
new
monies
coming
and
hopefully
we
get
all
three
of
those
projects
done
by
the
fall
and
be
out
of
the
system.
So.
N
And
then
just
a
little
site
project
that
you
know
again,
our
staff
actually
are
working.
We
bring
contractors
in
to
do
stuff.
This
is
an
example
of
where
you
know
not
only
helping
ourselves
out
the
different
groups,
but
at
the
water
treatment
plant,
the
maintenance
group.
You
know
we
had
a
problem
with
the
the
drain
line
in
the
sludge
tank
that
decants
the
sludge
goes
into
that
tank,
and
then
we
actually
remove
that
two
or
three
times
a
year.
N
We
actually
removed
the
sludge,
but
we
decant
the
water
off
that
goes
down
to
our
sewer
system.
The
lines
got
clogged,
so
the
staff
went
in
we're
able
to
do
a
project
and
get
that
functionally
working
so
again,
a
good
example
of
our.
We
can
do
a
lot
and
house
our
staff
right
now.
You
know
we.
We
have
had
some
decrease
in
staff
in
the
fact
that
we've
had
some
people
leave
the
town
going
to
other
jurisdictions,
we're
all
sort
of
in
a
boat
where
we're
sort
of
pilfering
from
each
other.
N
Right
now
in
the
industry,
especially
in
the
Maricopa
County
area,
everybody's
trying
to
steal
everybody
else,
we
get
someone
trained
and
then
they
suddenly
they
can
make.
You
know
money
somewhere
else
or
they
can
get
more
career
advancements.
So
we
were
in
a
little
bit
of
a
heartache
right
now,
always
trying
to
deal
with
Staffing,
but
the
staff
that
we
do
have
I,
give
credit
to
them.
They're
trying
to
be
proactive
and
keep
things
working
and
we're
still
making
Headway
we're
not
going
backwards,
which
is
the
biggest
takeaway.
N
And
I'll
end
off,
you
know
we
have
other
CIP
projects,
but
the
biggest
one
is
obviously
the
City
of
Phoenix
interconnect
site.
So
this
is
the
latest
rendering
of
that
site
from
black
and
Beach
you're,
seeing
the
large
reservoir
on
the
the
north
east
corner
or
northwest
corner
of
the
site,
it's
hard
to
see,
but
there's
a
landscape
berm
being
planned
along
the
western
side
of
the
site,
that'll
be
both
elevated
berm
as
well.
N
The
landscaping
material
on
to
Shield
the
site,
the
the
equipment
area
this
or
the
hatchton
area-
is
largely
a
fenced
in
so
to
have
an
eight
foot
security
fence
around
it.
So
you
won't
really
see
much
except
the
tops
of
the
buildings
and
there's
you
know,
there's
a
fairly
white
large
wash
that
runs
across
the
top
side
of
the
site.
So
we're
channelizing
that
and
then
there's
going
to
be
the
on-site
retention
base,
and
so
there's
there's
there's
not
much
left
over
from
our
three
acre
site.
N
Once
this
project
is
done
between
getting
this
Reservoir,
the
Dual
Zone
booster
Pump
Station.
We
have
to
have
the
turnaround
area,
so
we
can
bring
chemicals,
the
chemicals
being.
Chlorine,
that's
the
only
thing,
we're
planning
to
use
at
this
site,
so
we
can
actually
add
additional
chlorine
to
the
Phoenix
water
before
it
goes
back
into
our
system,
make
sure
it's
properly
disinfected
it'll
be
coming
in
is
treated
water,
but
because
of
the
water
age
we
expect
a
lot
to
to
top
it
up
as
best
analogy
and
then.
I
N
N
The
large
Reservoir
is
about
a
million
gallons
of
storage,
but
doing
a
smaller
Reservoir
about
a
hundred
thousand
gallons,
which
will
allow
us
to
better
control
the
flow
up
to
the
treatment
plant
and
better
utilize,
the
Palm
membranes,
which
then
will
also
help
us
in
turn
produce
less
backwash
water
on
that
plant,
which
will
help
us
better
control
our
deliveries
to
Rancho
Manana.
So
it
all
it
all
ties
together.
N
So
at
this
point
we
have
we've
gone
through
a
selection
process,
and
we
have
talk
to
the
committee
has
elected
to
move
forward
with
a
contract
with
MDC.
We
still
have
to
bring
that
contract
to
council,
so
we're
working
with
mgc
on
the
contract
to
work
with
Bill
Sims
to
get
that
contract
put
together.
We've
finished
our
application
to
the
water
infrastructure,
Finance
Authority
we
are
already
seeing
you
know.
N
There's
some
concerns
about
the
cost
of
the
site
and
we're
actually
having
those
meetings
with
mgc
right
now,
while
we're
negotiating
their
scope
of
work
and
we'll
probably
be
coming
back
to
council
or
we
will
be
coming
back
to
council
to
last
year,
we
asked
for
Council
authorization
to
to
make
the
web
application
for
9.4
million
dollars.
We've
talked
to
the
town's
bowling
Council,
and
the
suggestion
is
to
ask
for
all
the
capacity
that
we
could
in
the
current,
and
it
was
built
into
the
rate
model,
so
it
would
be.
N
13
million
dollars
is
what
the
application
to
with
us
right
now.
Our
goal
is
to
be
under
that
with
the
project
and
we're
asking
for
that,
because
we
actually
can
get
some
debt
forgiveness
and
some
other
things
on
it,
but
we're
gonna
be
coming
back
to
Council
next
month
with
a
resolution
to
reauthorize
that
to
match
with
the
loan
document.
N
It
is
getting
to
be
a
more
expensive
project
than
we
anticipated
just
because
we're
hitting
we're
still
in
the
escalation
phase
of
the
market
right
now,
but
we're
going
to
try
or
we
will
bring
it
in
within
a
more
reasonable
budget
at
this
point,
but
it's
one
of
for
Warren
Council.
N
We
will
be
coming
back
with
a
resolution
asking
for
additional
Authority
and
again
that
was
we're
using
all
the
authority
that
was
put
into
the
rate
model
for
both
the
interconnect
site
and
we're
actually
moving
forward
the
The
Authority
that
was
placed
in
there
to
pay
for
the
treatment
plant
expansion.
It
was
supposed
to
happen
the
following
year,
so
we're
bringing
that
all
forward
to
make
sure
that
we
can
complete
this
project.
N
So
with
that
I
can
answer
any
questions.
You
know.
I've
talked
a
lot
here
and
I
apologize
when
I
do
this
there's
just
so
much
stuff
and
I'll
get
a
little
so
much
credit
to
the
staff,
and
you
know
even
the
internal
staff
that
we
work
with
with
finance
and
the
building
staff.
You
know
our
engineering
staff
and
all
the
work
staff
and
everybody.
So
it's
you
know
these
are
Big
utilities,
big
Enterprise
funds
for
the
town
and
I
think
we've
got
a
good
people
who
are
well
committed
to
to
moving
us
forward.
A
I've
been
with
the
water
for
10
years,
started
six
years
on
the
water
advisory
committee
and
the
five
years
you've
been
here,
there's
been
just
an
absolutely
amazing
amount
of
progress
in
the
system
that
will
never
be
cheap.
Never,
but
I
mean
just
these.
These
sewer
slides
just
bring
chills
to
my
my
body
to
think
they
were
in
there
all
the
time
and
that
we
didn't
know
what
was
going
on
so.
N
A
F
A
Thank
you,
okay
motion,
I
had
a
motion.
We
have
a
second
second
all's
in
favor.