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From YouTube: 2017 05 03 Cedar City Council Work Meeting
Description
Weekly scheduled public City Council meetings for Cedar City, UT
C
B
A
community
to
discuss
the
concerns
of
the
needs
of
the
people
that
live
in
this
beautiful
city.
We
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
and
pray
that
tonight
that,
as
we
make
our
deliberations,
that
we
can
have
understanding
and
that
we'll
be
able
to
come
to
conclusions
that
will
be
beneficial
for
all
those
who
live
here.
We
pray
tonight
for
the
well-being
of
our
public
safety
officers
or
fire
and
policemen
and
women,
and
ask
for
their
continued
protection,
and
we
say
this
in
the
name
of
Jesus:
Christ
amen.
Okay,
thank.
A
All
right,
we
will
now
move
on
to
our
agenda
order.
Approval
we'd
like
to
ask
the
item:
number
11
be
moved
up,
so
it
is
under
council,
business
and
other
than
that.
Are
there
any
other
changes
that
council
would
like
and
if
not,
can
I
get
a
motion
with
that
change
at.
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I
A
question
yeah:
oh,
did
you
have
something
besides
the
yo
I
was
just
gonna
ask:
is
there
some
activity
on
the
recycle
center
down?
There
I've
seen
people
down
there
and
wondered
if
we're
finally
getting
a
resolution
so.
H
Here's
what
I
know
three
or
four
weeks
ago,
representatives
from
the
state
came
down:
it's
the
solid
waste
guys
that
handle
this
type
of
material.
We
asked
them
to
come
down
and
look
at
it
and
provide
any
help
they
can
provide.
They
went
in
and
evaluated
what's
out
there
in
a
nutshell,
they
sent
us
a
letter
and
they
sent
it
to
the
owner
of
the
of
the
property
as
well,
and
the
letter
says:
there's
a
bunch
of
glass
material
out
there,
which
would
be
like
pop
bottles
and
beer
bottles
and
stuff
like
that.
H
If
the
city
is
willing,
we
can
let
them
put
it
in
the
Bullock
pit.
The
back
glass
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
glass
material
out
there
that
it's
classified
as
hazardous
waste,
it's
the
monitors
and
electronic
stuff
and
they
need
to
figure
out
a
plan
to
dispose
of
that.
The
letter
contained
some
possible
disposal
sites
that
they
could
work
with
to
dispose
of
it,
but
it
sounds
a
little
bit
costly.
H
I
F
J
J
J
J
H
C
F
J
Of
water
go
out
there,
what
time
we
get
it
done,
we'll
see,
I'm
sure
there'll
be
some
there'll,
be
some
storm
water
that
goes
out
there.
Things
on
some
excess
that
might
end
up
out
early.
Can
you
focus
your
will?
I
want
to
take
a
few
minutes.
I
hope
you'll
bear
with
me.
I
I
had
a
talk
with
the
auditor
Dougal
this
week
and
I
read
through
back
in
January
of
this
year.
J
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F
J
J
J
Don't
know
for
how
long
I
didn't
check
that,
but
it's
an
in
a
local
agency
that
was
formed
on
the
Utah
cold
11-13
and
is
to
permit
local
government
units
to
make
the
most
efficient
use
of
their
powers
by
enabling
them
to
cooperate
with
other
local
localities
on
the
basis
of
mutual
advantage
and
to
provide
the
benefit
of
economy
of
scale.
They
represent.
J
246,
incorporated
municipalities
in
the
state
of
Utah
they're
governed
by
a
board
of
directors
consisting
of
four
officers
and
twelve
director,
and
in
this
audit
it
basically
says
that
this
league
is
a
ceremonial
ceremonial
type
board.
The
officers
pretty
much
run
the
organization,
but
the
board
they're
made
up
of
city
councilmen
women
and
in
mayors-
and
this
is
an
audit
that
John
Dougal
did,
that
was
between
the
years
of
of
May,
2012
and
September
of
2016.
So
about
four
years
and
the
findings
of
this
audit.
J
He
just
talks
in
the
first.
It
says
when
a
governing
body
fails
to
provide
appropriate
oversight
by
clearly
establishing
authority,
responsibility
and
accountability
through
words,
policies
and
actions,
a
risk
of
inappropriate
activity
increases.
As
such.
We
have
focused
part
of
this
report
on
the
lack
of
adequate
oversight
by
the
ulc
ste
Board
of
Directors
and
as
I
go
through.
This
I
want
to
I
know
there
can
be
employees
that
that
do
things
wrong
in
an
organization
but
I
would
I
would
submit
as
we
go
through
this.
J
This
is
as
much
that
as
it
is
a
structural
problem
with
this
organization,
they
haven't
focused
on
oversight
or
checks
and
balances,
at
least
through
this.
This
period
there's.
The
first
point
was
former
CFO
embezzled,
the
USCT
funds
by
charging
personal
expenses
to
ulc
self,
you
lct
credit
card.
There
was
four
thousand
nine
hundred
ninety
six
for
personal
purchases
made
with
a
credit
card
through
for
the
period
of
July
15
through
16,
and
the
CFO
resigned
in
August
of
2016.
J
He
also
found
that,
through
September
of
2016
found
26650
two
of
charges
that
appear
to
be
for
personal
purposes.
These
these,
these
charges
are
similar
to
the
ones
this
former
CFO
previously
determined
were
personal
purchases.
So
there
was
ken
Bullock.
There
was
a
director
and
the
CFO
was
I
can't
remember
her
name,
but
some
of
the
examples
of
these
charges
were
fourteen
hundred
and
two
dollars
of
iTunes
purchases.
Three
hundred
and
fifty
one
dollars
at
soma
intimates
for
women's
apparel
$482
of
spa
charges,
eight
thousand
four
hundred
and
thirty
seven
dollars
of
dining
charges.
J
Additionally,
the
former
CFO
sul
seat
credit
card
contain
charges
for
fifty
seven
thousand
two
hundred
sixty
one
dollars
that
are
questionable
due
to
lack
of
receipts
or
documented
purposes.
It
was
twenty
nine
thousand
dollars
in
dining
charges.
Fourteen
thousand
twenty
eight
fourteen
hundred
and
twenty-eight
dollars
at
various
floral
shops
and
four
hundred
eighty
two
dollars
to
Salt
Lake,
City
Corporation
for
parking
tickets,
and
as
you
read
through
this
audit,
it
talked
about
how
the
director
failed
to
take
adequate
corrective
action
for
former
CFOs
continuous
poor
performance,
and
it
talked
about.
J
J
Director
was
aware
of
weaknesses
in
ulc
teas,
receipt,
submission
and
retention
practices.
The
said
a
repeated
late
payment
of
bills
by
the
former
CFO,
incurring
additional
cost,
seven
thousand
one
hundred
fifty
nine
dollars
and
penalties
were
incurred.
479
late
credit
card
payments,
four
thousand
nine
hundred
twenty
one
dollars
in
penalties
were
incurred
for
three
late
payroll
tax
payments.
J
Nineteen
thousand
one
hundred
and
seventy
two
dollars
in
penalties
were
incurred
for
eight
late
pension
payments
to
Utah
retirement
systems
says
the
director
was
aware
that
the
former
CFO
was
chronically
delinquent
in
submitting
credit
card
statements
for
review,
often
spanning
months
of
delay,
the
director
would
perform
a
cursory
review
of
these
statements
failing
to
identify
improper
purchases-
and
it
just
goes.
This
report
is
very
troubling.
J
The
director
did
pay
back
some
of
the
things
he
was
charging
fees
to
a
credit
card.
You
lct
credit
card.
He
did
reimburse
the
lct
for
forty
five
thousand
eight,
fifty
seven
and
personal
travel
related
charges,
but
then,
as
they
did,
the
audit
there
was
actually
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
the
fifty
seven
thousand
dollars
the
charges
for
personal
purposes.
That
should
have
been
been
refunded.
J
The
board
failed
to
provide
adequate
oversight,
and
this
is
where
it
gets
to
the
board.
I
I
serve
on
three
different
boards:
I
serve
on
the
happy
factory
board,
I
serve
on
the
central
and
County
Water
Conservancy
District,
Board
and
I
serve
on
the
wastewater
treatment
board
and
on
all
these
boards.
The
very
first
of
the
meeting
we
go
through
expenses
are
paid
and
we
go
through
the
financial
statements
and
things
as
a
board.
We
look
at
them
and
I'm
in
the
water
board.
Every
month
we
go
that
thoroughly.
J
J
J
There
was
also
some
employees
of
the
of
the
UL
CT
they're,
a
lobbyist
group
that
represent
these
cities,
and
there
was
there
were
two
members
of
the
full-time
staff
and
two
contract
employees
made
written
disclosures
of
entities
for
which
they
were
registered
lobbyist,
so
they
were
working
for
both
things
and
that's
that's
a
direct
conflict
of
interest
and
in
that
bit.
Yet
there
was
no
disclosure
of
conflicts
of
interest,
and
so
basically
this
goes
through,
and
this
is
online
for
anybody
wants
to
read
it.
J
There
was
also
another
audit
done
in
April
that
came
out
and
when
I
was
talking
to
audit
auditor
Dougal,
he
said
it
was
a
miracle.
They
even
found
the
second
audit.
It
was
a.
They
found,
a
another
secret
fund
that
was
being
withheld
from
the
Board
of
Directors
knowledge.
Nobody
knew
about
it,
but
the
CFO
and
the
and
the
director,
and
that
they
were
there
was
money
being
withdrawn
from
that
fund,
and
so,
as
elected
officials,
we
have
a
duty
to
protect
the
taxpayers
dollars
and
we
have
an
own.
J
We
are
stewards
of
that
money
and
I
wanted
to
bring
this
up
tonight.
I
would
like
to
see
us
at
least
maybe
a
bow
out
of
this
organization
for
at
least
a
year,
maybe
two
until
that
there
is
a
letter
in
here
from
the
mayor's
Kaysville
who's,
the
president
of
the
lct
and
saying
they've
remedied
all
of
these
things,
but
I
don't
see
how
you
can
have
four
years
of
gross
malfeasance
and
then
fix
it
in
in
a
month
or
two
I
think
that
the
trust
has
been
lost.
J
We
have
paid
as
a
city.
The
best
I
can
see
is
about
twenty
thousand
dollars,
maybe
towards
twenty
five
thousand.
By
the
time
we
count
hotels
and
and
per
diem
for
council
members
or
the
mayor
to
go
to
these
conferences.
Yet
we
have
a.
We
have
a
building,
Department
Cedar
City,
that's
struggling
to
keep
up
with
the
demand
of
builders.
We
desperately
need
to
hire
another
part-time
employee
to
help
with
that
department
and
I
would
like
to
know
what
we're
getting
out
of
this
I.
J
Initially,
I
thought
we
were
our
entire
team:
it's
not
their
lobbyists
that
help
us
out
on
the
on
the
hill
and
I
recognize
they've
done
some
good,
but
I
think
they've
lost
the
trust.
If
this
was
a
private
organization
that
did
this,
they
would
be
out
of
business,
but
with
government.
We
just
know
it's:
okay,
we'll
just
put
in
a
few
more
checks
and
balances,
and
so.
J
You
know
there
was
a
letter
that
the
mayor
sent
us
last
night
from
an
email
from
John
Mayer
Pike
from
st.
George,
and
he
made
a
made
it.
You
know
he
was.
He
was
defending
the
league
and
and-
and
he
made
the
comment
well,
you
know
they've
had
some
problems
but
I
think
the
EOC
T's
grown-up,
that
was
the
term
to
use
the
grown
up
because
I
got
caught
or
I.
Don't
I
just
have
some
questions
there.
B
B
Individual
in
the
audience
that
when
these
folks
have
some
small
children,
if
we
can
do
that,
I
think
that's
why
they
came,
and
that
would
be
possible,
no
be
okay
with
you
ball
Shh,
then
we
can
talk
and.
A
K
Good
evening,
mayor
council
and
staff
darren
adams
police
department,
thank
you,
council,
member
roli,
for
allowing
us
to
do
the
survey.
This
is
officer
Peterson
and
he's
the
newest
addition
to
the
force
he's
been
with
us
for
a
couple
of
years
previously
as
an
animal
control
officer
and
he
tested
and
was
selected
to
transfer
into
Patrol.
We're
very
excited
about
that
and
I
know
he
is.
H
A
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N
Mike
Phillips
fire
department
just
wanted
to
make
the
council
and
staff
of
aware
of
a
large-scale
training
exercise
where
we
do
in
this
Friday
night
from
8
o'clock,
til,
probably
about
2:00
a.m.
at
Home
Depot.
So
if
you
see
a
Facebook
post
at
Home,
Depot's
on
fire
and
there's
hosts
running
in
the
building,
it's
just
us
playing
we're
not
fighting.
B
B
O
Short
ones,
this
week
we
finished
the
Coal
Creek
flood
control
job
and
looks
pretty
nice
out
there.
We're
just
gonna
have
to
wait
to
get
the
Lamar
finish
to
have
the
flood
zones
taken
off
the
flood
map
that
would
probably
be
close
to
a
year.
For
that
to
happen,
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
dimension
is
I,
went
to
a
meeting
today
of
what
they
call
the
arktech
committee.
O
It's
a
subcommittee
of
the
Planning
Organization
that
Mayor
go
to
on
transportation
for
the
county
and
we
were
presented
with
a
list
of
projects
from
you,
dot
that
are
going
to
be
paid
for
from
the
transportation
investment
fund,
and
what
that
is,
is
you.
Dot
is
bonding
for
4.4
billion
dollars
to
try
to
catch
up
on
their
backlog
of
projects
in
the
state.
I
mean
really
with.
O
Mail
billion
dollars
so
and
there's
three
projects
in
st.
George,
and
that's
really
that's
that's
out
of
the
50
projects.
That's
all
this!
That's
in
this
end
of
the
state,
but
there
is
there
is
one
project
on
here:
that's
called
recreational
hotspot
projects
and
we've
been
talking
for
quite
a
while
about
bike
lanes
up
Cedar
Canyon
to
widen
the
highway
out
up
there
and
put
bike
lanes
on
both
sides
of
the
road,
and
so
that's
that's
one
project.
O
The
we're
probably
going
to
go
ahead
and
put
in,
for
you
know,
in
cooperation
with
the
county
and
the
other
communities
to
be
able
to
utilize
some
of
this
money
and
it's
good
money
to
get
it's
only.
A
six
percent
match
on
the
funds
city
has
to
come
up
with
in
the
county
and
you
know
them.
So
if
we
feel
like
about
that
bike,
lane
projects
get
good
use
for
some
of
that
money.
So
kit.
B
O
What
I
remember
I
can
ship
Mayo
sheriff
stay?
Probably
the
mast
I've
ever
seen.
Him
is
st.
George
had
209
million
dollars
in
projects
budgeted
down
there
one
year
and
we
had
1.5
million
shows,
but
they
do
get
a
lot
of
projects.
Of
course,
they're
a
lot
higher
growth
rate
than
awesome
person
in
law.
Gary.
H
A
A
D
B
B
Whether
whether
they
Utah
League
has
has
cleaned
up
their
situation
or
not
to
me
is
a
little
beside
the
point
in
this
matter.
I
I
used
to
go
to
the
Utah
leaks.
When
I
was
a
mayor
in
Santa,
Clara
and
I.
Remember,
Peter
Vidmar
did
a
little
thing
on
his
balance,
beam
thing
once
and
a
couple
of
things
like
that,
but
it
was
more
we're
going
up
there
to
be
entertained
that
there
were.
There
were
some
workshops,
but
they
did
not
seem
to
apply
to
a
city.
My
size
came
here.
B
I
went
to
one
in
st.
George,
David
Church
spoke
again,
basically
gave
the
same
thing
he
had
given
eight
years
earlier,
which
is
just
absolute
quality
things,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
that
same
information
resides
in
the
heads
of
mr.
bitman
through
his
experience
over
the
years
with
the
city
and
so
I
just
wonder
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
putting
in
there
if
it
were
put
towards
new
sidewalks
or
a
new
part-time
city
inspector
or
something
for
a
couple
of
years.
B
If
it
might
not
be
take
a
couple
of
years,
see
if
we
can
live
without
the
league
see
if
they
can
truly
prove
to
us
that
they
have
taking
care
of
these
deeply
foundational
issues
and
just
take
a
break
from
it
for
a
while
and
use
that
money
to
do
some
other
things.
You
know
I'm
on
the
the
Cedar
Arts
Council
and
we
sit
there
these
these
folks
who
want
to
start
a
little
thing.
B
It's
a
little
incubator
for
artists,
we're
sitting
there
trying
to
decide
if
we
should
give
250
dollars
to
this
person
or
just
a
hundred
and
I
see
twenty
fifteen
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
a
couple
years
could
do
wonders
if
we
even
just
gave
them
a
thousand
dollars
of
that.
I
think
would
have
a
more
deeply
personal
impact
on
the
people
of
this
city,
then
than
me
sitting
at
a
banquet
in
Salt
Lake.
That's
my
feeling
on
it.
It.
G
F
G
Out
repetitive,
but
that
was
a
great
start
for
me
and
the
thing
that
I
most
appreciated
about
what
I've
seen
them
do
this
year
is
their
what
they
do
during
the
legislative
session
and
the
updates
that
they
provided
to
me
constantly
during
that
session
and
they're
running
interference
for
towns
and
cities
in
a
way
that
I'll,
let
these
two
gentlemen
respond
to
that.
But
I
think
there
is
great
value
in
that
for
our
city
and
I
and
I
wouldn't
want
us
to
be
excluded
from
those
those
benefits.
So
I,
you
know
I.
B
B
F
B
B
G
Cities
are
represented
on
that
board.
I
I
would
respond
to
the
findings
in
the
audit.
Being
an
auditor
I
understand
that
when
you
cut
loose
and
doing
on
it,
you
have
to
look
for
all
under
every
Rock
and
for
all
the
problems
and
I
think
mr.
Duggal
office
has
done
a
very
thorough
job
with
that
audit
and
acknowledge
that
the
audit
paints
a
pretty
poor
picture
of
financial
management
of
the
league.
Okay.
G
But
that's
why
we
do
office
is
to
hold
people
accountable
and
then
to
make
sure
that
there
are
internal
controls
that
are
implemented
to
improve
the
systems
and
I
think
that
will
be
the
result
of
the
audit.
But
anyway
those
are
just
a
couple
of
observations
may
be
between
now.
Next
week
we
can
really
quantify
what
we're
getting
out
of
this
and
comfortable.
I
And
just
quickly
did
not
belabor
the
point,
I
could
about
say
ditto
for
what
Craig
just
said
as
a
new
councilmember
I
found
it
very
valuable
training
and
I
think
at
the
cost
that
we
spend
for
that
membership.
The
two
conferences
that
I've
attended
I
felt,
like
the
workshops,
were
very
beneficial
and
learned.
A
lot
from
them
got
all
the
legislature.
Ups
update
this
year
and
whatnot
to
know
what
was
affecting
us
and
I
I,
guess
I
would
just
say:
I
I
kind
of
subscribed
to
the
ready
aim
fire
like
not
ready
fire
same
concept.
I
I,
don't
think
my
opinion
right
now
is
that
they
had
some
problems,
but
our
understanding
we
haven't,
read
them
yet
or
been
provided,
but
they've
redone
all
of
their
policies,
all
of
their
their
controls
for
the
financial
controls
and
whatnot
I.
Think
we
need
to
give
them
a
chance
to.
Let
us
see,
and
over
this
next
week
get
the
information
and
review
that,
but
right
now,
I,
wouldn't
I
got.
B
G
I
would
add
that
I
made
connections
that
will
help
me
fill
my
responsibilities.
Is
a
networking
opportunity,
I
view
those
conferences,
kind
of
like
how
you
would
view
a
membership
in
the
Chamber
of
Commerce?
You
only
get
out
of
it,
what
you
put
into
it
and
I
and
I
right.
So
that's
just
like
I,
say
one
man's
opinion,
but
right.
I
Q
D
And
I
my
take
on
it
I
agree
with
them
I'm
the
old-timer
on
the
council,
but
no
when
I
was
first
elected.
The
training
that
we
received
being
you
know
green
to
this
type
of
position.
Coming
from
you
know,
as
a
citizen
of
Cedar
City
I
I
felt,
like
the
training,
was
invaluable
to
hear
from
the
people
that
had
been
around
and
talk
with
other
leaders
from
other
cities
that
you
know
had
been
in
office
for
a
while.
D
Some
of
them
knew
I
liked
rubbing
shoulders
with
somebody
from
the
city
of
200,
as
opposed
to
you
know
our
city,
even
at
30,000,
and
you
know,
and
even
to
you
know
the
to
the
big
cities
but
I
think
I.
Think
it's
like
Craig,
so
you
can
you
get
out
of
it,
what
you
put
into
it
and
if
you,
if
you
go
in
there
with
the
right
attitude,
you're
looking
for
things
that
would
benefit
your
city.
It
implants
idea
that.
D
Maybe
we
don't
serve
on
that
exact
committee
at
this
point
in
time,
but
down
the
road
we
may
and
I
think
that's
where
the
value
comes
in
and
then
in
general
I
just
want
to
say
from
several
experiences
and
not
getting
daily
details
because
we
experienced
some
in
our
city,
but
you
know
a
lot
of
times
personal
misuse
of
funds
based
on
credit
cards
as
we've
experienced.
Is
you
know?
That's
just.
Do
we
look
at
the
whole
organization
as
being
bad
because
one
individual
has
soured
that?
B
A
Can
give
you
a
couple
of
things:
we've
done
stuff
with
trails
that
relate
to
grants
and
information
that
we've
gotten
from
Lisa
I've
gotten
from
some
of
the
conference
workshops
related
to
state
grants
that
were
available
tourism
things,
the
legislative
part,
even
the
wildland
fire
legislation
that
came
through
last
year,
I'll.
Let
Evan
talk
about
that
or
senator
Vickers.
Sorry.
The
league
was
really
instrumental
in
that
and
worked
directly
with
our
city
with
Chief
Phillips.
He
had
lots
of
meetings
so
ones
like
that.
The.
A
A
D
A
P
Name
is
Evan
Vickers,
a
former
member
of
this
body
and
served
in
the
state
Senate,
so
I'm
not
here
to
defend
the
Whig
I'm
just
here
to
provide
some
information.
The
mayor
asked
me
to
give
some
information.
Let
me
give
you
some
additional
information
on
the
audit
and
then
I'll
give
you
some
additional
information.
You
guys
and
then
you
can
use
that
to
make
your
decision.
You
know
and
I
trust
you
you're.
Five
good
people
and
you'll
make
good
decisions
so
on
the
audit.
I
actually
have
had
a
copy
of
the
audit.
P
P
The
Linde
pace
who's
with
a
city
in
Salt,
Lake
City
was
the
director
or
chairman
of
the
board
of
directors
of
the
league
and
a
couple
years
ago
he
started
to
looking
at
some
potential
in
proprieties,
so
he
started
trying
to
do
some
cleanup
work
and
then
mayor
Hyatt,
who
is
the
current
board
chair,
has
continued
on
with
that.
The
league
actually
hired
an
addition
and
outside
firm
to
do
some
auditing
on
credit
card
purchases
because
they
felt
like
there
were
some
strengths
and
challenges
there.
P
When
they
got
into
it,
they
realized
it
probably
went
a
little
deeper
than
they
wanted
to,
so
they
actually
went
to
to
John
John
Google
and
today,
I
think
we
need
to
have
additional
state
audit
look
assistance,
that's
where
the
of
the
audits
came
from
in
that
process.
You
know
and
Paul
you
outlined
a
improprieties
about
credit
card
purchases,
a
lot
of
it.
Now
you
mentioned
a
lot
of
dollars.
No,
not
all
those
dollars
were
lost.
Those
dogs,
I
thought.
P
P
He
paid
some
back
on
his
own
and
then
they
garnished
the
league
actually
garnished
his
wages
to
pull
it
open
to
balance
back
now
there
was
some
money
that
was
stolen,
quite
frankly
by
Michelle
Riley,
who
is
the
CFO
and
that
money
has
not
been
paid
back
according
to
John,
but
the
league
is
in
the
process
of
recouping
that
money
from
them
from
her.
So
there's
going
through
a
legal
process
to
get
that
money
back
in
the
meantime,
you
know
they
identified
the
issues
that
they
need
to
identify
they've
taken
the
corrective
action.
P
Me
tell
you
what
that
trust
fund
was
so
because
it
actually
occurred
when
I
was
on
the
City
Council
back
in
the
90s
and
and
the
and
I
remembered
I've
a
glee
remember
what
it
was
was
set
up
to
help
cities,
save
money
and
and
I.
Remember
Cedar
City
participated
in
there's,
a
number
of
cities
participated
in,
did
save
significant
money
through,
but
through
the
process
you
can
see
it
was
supposed
to
have
gone
away
in
2012.
P
It
did
and
quite
frankly
that
was
wrong,
and
you
know
I'm
really
glad
the
audit
picked
up
on
that
and
that's
what
a
lot
of
the
the
people
things
that
hit
the
paper
really
talked
about,
that
particular
font.
Now,
obviously,
that's
been,
and
that
was
separate
and
out
of
purview
of
the
board.
So
you
really
it's
hard
to
blame
the
board
for
that,
because
it
really
was
hidden
from
them.
It
was
out
of
their
purview,
so
take
it
for
what
that's
worth
that
has
been
corrected.
P
You
know
that
fund
and
all
that
money
which
was
deemed
to
be
public
money
because,
as
you
mentioned,
his
public
utility,
the
lead
is
that
money
has
come
back
into
the
league
and
back
into
the
league
fund.
So
so
just
to
sum
up,
I
asked
so
when
I
asked
the
RIP
stands
from
the
league
and
I
asked
John
I
asked
them
the
same
questions.
I
got
the
same
answers,
so
you
know
that
and
then
I
asked
John.
This
question
I
said
John
I
said
John
we're
good
friends.
We
served
in
the
house
together
and
I.
P
Do
consider
him
a
good
friend
and
a
good
colleague
and
he's
done.
I
think
he's
done
a
wonderful
job,
not
her.
Quite
frankly,
we
didn't.
In
fact
the
joke
was
nobody,
and
this
is
an
actual
fact.
Before
John
was
elected
to
be
the
state
auditor.
There
was
only
about
ten
people
in
the
legislature
that
even
knew
the
name
of
the
current
state
auditor.
Since
John
has
been
elected
to
the
state
auditor.
He
everybody
knows
who
John
Duggal
is
frugal,
Google,
so
but
anyway,
I
asked
him.
P
The
question
I
said
John
I
said
tell
me:
do
you
have
any
red
flags
or
any
concerns
about
the
league
going
forward,
and
he
said
no,
he
said
they've
been
completely
compliant.
I'm,
calm,
I'm,
completely
happy
with
the
steps
they've
taken.
The
policy
they
put
in
place.
I
have
no
reservations.
So
take
this
for
what's
work,
that's
that's
this
information,
you
use
it.
You
make
your
decision
now.
Then
then.
Maybe
some
additional
information
that
I
can
give
you
an
opinion
or
my
experience.
P
I
guess,
then
you
can
use
that
and
it's
because
you're
asking
the
question:
is
it
worth
it?
So
you
know
and
I
that's
a
decision
you
you'll
need
to
make.
But
from
a
council
perspective
when
I
was
on
the
council,
Joe
Melling
at
the
time
and
I
were
at
the
time
were
involved
with
the
legislative
action
committee
and
we
traveled
to
Salt
Lake
quite
often
and
involved
with
the
league,
and
there
was
an
awful
lot
of
interaction
on
legislation
and
there
continues
to
be
so
from
a
legislative
perspective.
I
see
things
that
go
on.
P
There
are
training,
obviously,
there's
training
for
staff,
there's
training
for
council
members
and-
and
that
goes
on
all
the
time
you
just
and
that's
the
constant
turnover
any
time
you
get
new
people
coming
in.
You
have
to
continue
to
do
that,
and
that's
why
some
of
seems
repetitive,
but
from
a
legislative
standpoint
there
are
certain
lobbying
groups
that
we
as
legislators
get
to
know
and
we
get
to
know
all
of
them
and
certain
ones
you
get
to
where
you
can
trust
I've
always
felt
like
that.
I
could
trust
what
I
got
from
the
league.
P
They've
always
provided
me.
Valuable
information.
Give
me
the
information,
I
needed
to
know.
They've
actually
worked
with
me
when
we
talked
about
the
wildland
fire
issue.
That
was
a
process
of
policy
change.
Significant
policy
changes
in
the
state
significant
in
the
fact
that
it's
different
than
anything
else
in
the
country
and
other
states
are
now
looking
at
us
as
a
model
that
would
have
never
happened
without
the
league.
P
The
league
actually
took
the
lead
less
like
in
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
and
she
Phillips
can
and
I
think
would
vouch
for
this,
but
there
was
50-plus
workgroup
meetings.
They
were
held
and
canned
with
the
league.
There
was
members
of
the
league
that
participated
in
those
groups
and
then
that
was
brought
back
to
the
policy
committee
and
back
through
the
league,
and
they
worked
with
me
significantly
on
that.
So
for
what
it's
worth
on
that
one
piece
of
the
legislation,
they
were
invaluable
to
me.
P
There's
issues
probably
anywhere
from
half
a
dozen
to
20
issues
that
come
up
every
year
in
the
legislature
to
deal
with
cities
and
towns
and
all
sometimes
they
overlap
with
counties.
Sometimes
they
don't
and
so
those
two
organizations
you
act,
Youth,
Association
and
counties
in
the
league.
You
tell
Liga
cities
and
towns.
P
We
do
rely
on
those
a
lot
so
for
what
it's
worth
on
a
legislative
purview,
extremely
valuable,
just
kind
of
give
you
an
idea:
I,
probably
had
one-on-one
conversations
with
the
lobbyists
from
the
league
30
to
40
times
during
the
session,
all
about
specific
pieces
of
legislation
getting
information
going
back.
So
take
four:
that's
four!
We're
vest
and
I'll
be
glad
to
answer
any
questions
like
I
say:
I'm,
not
defending
them.
I'm,
just
trying
to
give
you
some
additional
information
both
on
the
audit
side.
Maybe
a
perspective
side,
I.
F
J
P
Know
I've
seen
situations
where
there
are
some
cities,
larger
cities
that
actually
hire
outside
lobbyists.
On
top
of
that
they'll
pay
50
to
$100,000
for
outside
lobbyists
and
I've
seen
them
do
that
in
trying
to
get
site
locations
for
big
industrial
product
projects
and
certain
things
like
that
and
from
time
to
time
that
will
they
will
be
countered
of
what
maybe
other
cities
want,
but
the
league
I've
never
seen
the
league
take
a
position.
That's
counter
that
favors
like
Salt,
Lake,
City
versus
Cedar
City,
or
send
you
or
something
like
that.
P
J
J
Have
a
right
to
know:
what's
going
on,
I
mean
there
was
one
here
that
I
I
mean
it's.
There
was
one
point
here:
ulc
CT
failed
to
close
credit
card
accounts
on
employee
termination.
We
identified
five
open
credit
card
accounts
for
individuals
who
were
no
longer
employed
by
lct.
Some
of
these
individuals
have
not
been
employed
by
ul
CT
for
up
to
six
years.
I
can't
imagine
as
a
board
member
the
water
board.
Looking
at
that
every
month
we
look
at
those
in
depth.
They
Paul
highly.
He
does
a
great
job.
J
P
Well,
any
time
I
can
tell
you
from
experience,
because
I've
seen
this
happen
over
and
over
again
anytime,
there's
a
none
state
audit
done
either
by
the
legislative
audit
or
by
the
state
auditor
it
just
like
the
two
before
it
inside
of
your
head.
You
get
there
anything
into
your
attention
and
you
know
so.
Like
I
said
this,
the
conversations
I
had
with
both
entities.
It
appears
that
that
is
transpiring,
that's
taking
a
case
anyway,
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
other
questions
yeah.
P
A
P
You
know
and
I
have
to
tell
you
I,
really
liked
Ken
Bullock
as
a
person
I
thought
he
had
a
great
value
to
the
league.
I
was
really
disappointed
in
him
when,
when
I
saw
that
those
things
happened,
transpired
and
took
place,
you
know
quite
frankly,
I
really
was
I,
don't
what
else
say.
I
was
disappointed
and
disheartened
that
see
that
it
was
case.
E
You
I'm
representative,
John,
Westwood
I
would
echo
what
evan
has
said.
I
appreciate
this
coming
forward.
We
were
advised
of
this.
While
we
were
in
session
what
was
going
on
and
I
think
our
auditor
Duggal
does
a
very
good
job.
It
has
a
very
good
job
and
he's
very
thorough,
he's
very
thorough
knows,
as
Senator
said,
once
you've
gone
gone
through
inaud
it
with
the
Duggal
and
his
team.
You've
been
through
a
very
thorough
audit
and
they
ordered
another
audit.
On
top
of
this,
too,
they
were
concerned.
E
I
can
tell
you
from
my
perspective,
I
rely
senator
said
30
times,
it's
probably
more
than
that
to
that
we
would
contact
him.
They're
very
responsive
they're,
very
helpful
to
us
in
for
me
in
educating
me
on
different
issues,
but
also
indirectly
answering
my
questions
and
helping
us
with
legislation,
so
I
think
they've
been
very
responsive.
Our
training
here
has
been
good
that
doesn't
doesn't
justify
in
them
not
looking
at
their
statements.
E
Gosh
they've
got
to
do
a
better
job
there,
so
I
would
think
if,
depending
on
what
you
decide
and
I
respect
your
opinions,
all
I
think
a
letter
of
concern
to
be
sent
the
league
or
to
let
them
know
what
transpired
and
the
essence
of
the
discussion
here
tonight
would
be
very
helpful
to
them
in
moving
forward.
But
I
can
tell
you
that
Kamryn
deal
is
very
responsive
to
us
and
very
helpful
to
me.
E
The
problems
that
he
informs
me
has
been
have
been
addressed
and
taken
care
of,
and
that's
what
we
hire
auditors
for
and
going
forward.
I
hope
it
is
taken
care
of
because
they
represent
cities.
I
have
not
found
them
to
ever
represent
our
give
credence
more
to
a
larger
city
and
not
saying
that
the
larger
cities
don't
have
lobbyists
that
come
in
by
the
numbers
to
them
for
different
issues.
E
J
E
Going
to
be
an
interesting
going
to
be
an
interesting
discussion
forum,
I
know:
they've
been
very
responsive
in
listening
to
all
the
cities.
How
that
will
play
out
I,
don't
know
I
honestly
think
for
me,
that's
a
local
issue
and
it
should
be
addressed
locally
by
the
cities
involved
and
and
and
that's
the
legs
position.
P
E
S
These
are
duplicated
hello.
My
name
is
Brad
green
Dean
for
sub
D.
You
know
we
have
an
office
in
the
Philippines
at
my
company
and
recently
we
had
an
employee
that
was
caught
and
some
very
severe
impropriety
and
they
sent
an
email
to
the
owners
of
our
company,
trying
to
essentially
frame
another
employee
to
get
them
fired,
which
that
other
employee
was
fired
and
till
we
discovered
what
it
really
happens
and
as
the
as
the
cards
have
flown
cars
have
been
dealt.
S
S
There
are
people
that
love
the
Utah
League
of
cities
and
towns.
I
talked
to
Rob
Dodson,
with
Enoch
City.
Today
he
loves
that
he
thinks
that
they're
going
to
they
have
no
problems
with
it.
I
remember
the
public
one
that
pays
particular
attention,
more
probably
than
the
majority
of
the
area,
it's
difficult
for
me,
because
I
see
some
benefit
that
some
are
claiming.
That
happens.
S
However,
the
challenge
that
I
have
is
that
the
public
places
their
trust
in
you,
the
representatives,
and
we
expect
you
to
do
our
bidding
and
we
don't
the
nature
of
representative
government
is
that
is
such
that
we
don't
have
to
give
explicit
consent
for
everything
that
you
do.
We
have
to
trust
you
and
when
something
like
this
happens
with,
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
a
contractor
that
you've
hired
it
makes
the
public
question
your
decision-making
paradigm
that
allowed
you
to
get
in
business
with
such
a
contractor.
S
These
kind
of
organizations
are
scary
to
me.
Remember
the
public,
because
I
have
no
way
to
hold
them
accountable
very
little
way.
The
only
way
I
have
its
told
you
accountable
as
representatives
and
hope
that
whoever
replaces
you
gets
the
picture.
That's
a
very
long
process.
This
secret
fund-
you
know
that
the
second
audit
pointed
out
is,
is
huge.
I
mean
we
talked
16,000
a
year
from
the
city
20,000
over
a
couple
of
years.
S
It
takes
a
lot
of
cities,
contributing
those
thousands
of
dollars
to
add
up
to
1.3
million
in
2009,
and
where
did
the
money
go
between
2009
and
2008
hundred
thousand
dollars,
where's
the
accountability?
As
for
the
lobbying
efforts,
government
lobbying
governments
with
public
money
scares
the
hell
out
of
me
every
time.
I've
looked
at
it,
maybe
not
every
time
the
majority
of
times
I've
looked
at
it
they're
very
antithetical
to
personal
liberty.
S
It's
things
that
the
government
now
gets
to
do
that
the
people
don't
get
to
decide
for
themselves
the
Airbnb
issue,
while
the
representatives
said
that
it
was
a
an
issue
specifically
about
whether
it
should
be
handled
at
the
local
ever
the
state
level.
That's
the
point
right
now:
there's
lobbyists
on
the
other
side
saying
the
state
should
do
it,
because
the
cities
are
going
to
take
that
power
from
the
individuals.
It's
a
property
rights
issue.
In
my
opinion,
that's
the
argument.
S
These
lobbying
groups
that
are
funded
by
government
for
government
are
the
largest
most
influential
lobbying
groups
across
the
country.
Today
they
have
more
power
over
the
legislative
powers
than
do
the
citizens,
the
entire
purpose
of
government.
The
only
reason
why
it
is
moral
to
exist
is
to
protect
the
freedoms
of
the
individuals.
S
My
employee
in
the
Philippines
has
to
be
severely
disciplined
for
fraud
and
I.
Think
this
organization
also
needs
to
be
disciplined
in
some
way.
That
is
very
significant
and
I
think
the
easiest
thing
the
city
could
do
is
withdraw
for
time
until
checks
can
be
put
into
place
to
ensure
that
it
is
actually
doing
its
job
properly
and
morally.
S
A
B
To
clarify
from
April
2016
2
February
2017,
we
spent
nineteen
thousand
four
hundred
and
seventy
dollars
on
the
league
I
apologize
for
rounding
up
to
20
instead
of
down
to
nineteen,
but.
B
D
J
B
B
T
I'm
blind
a
resident
of
Cedar
City,
this
corruption,
I
guess
you'd
call
it
it's
been
disclosed,
is
a
serious
problem,
but
it
I
assume
that
would
be
a
transient
problem,
but
I
think
our
bigger
problem
is,
we
elected
you
people
to
represent
us,
not
the
league.
We
represented
their
elected
state
legislators
who
represent
us
not
the
leak.
I
would
like
our
representatives
to
represent
us
to
do
our
lobbying
force
in
for
us
as
individuals
to
do
our
lobbying
with
the
legislature
and
the
City
Council
County
Commission
I.
T
J
You
I
have
a
statement.
I
was
asked
to
read
by
Keith
seg
Miller
said
this.
He
could
be
to
the
meeting
that
this
is
egregious
malfeasance
on
several
levels
over
many
years.
Where
is
the
outrage?
Where's?
The
prosecution?
Yes,
extra
extricate
us,
give
drill
an
award
of
some
kind
and
don't
reopen
less,
and
until
an
annual
audit
shows
full
correction
and
benefits
commensurate
with
our
expenses.
A
J
F
We're
dealing
with
Phil
Smith
great
Commissioner
Brinkerhoff,
reached
out
to
the
Iron
County
school
school
Shannon,
Laney
and
also
suu
they've
been
willing
to
contribute
$2,500
heat
towards.
J
A
project
so
we've
got
2500
from
those
two
entities
in
the
district,
from
the
county
and
from
the
city,
so
I
would
recommend
we
lower
our
contribution
from
35
that
we
talked
about.
225
I
would
recommend
we
give
the
money
to
the
district.
So
as
a
district
project
we'll
have
about
2,500
dollars,
excess
money
and
I
would
I
would
hope.
We
could
just
use
that
to
earmark
towards
we've.
F
H
F
U
G
V
A
A
A
A
By
the
way
this
is
verbatim
what
I
have
to
read
so
guess
you
wondered
city
has
amended
its
capital
investment
plan
and
decided
to
apply
for
funds
on
behalf
of
the
Cedar
City
Housing
Authority,
low-income
housing
in
the
Cedar
City,
where
iron
County
area-
and
we
will
now
open
our
public
hearing
and
there
you
go
your
turn.
You
should
have
to
state
your
name.
Okay,
my
name
is
Heidi
Miller.
L
Hello
again,
so
we
submitted
an
application
and
we
were
successful
in
our
application
in
our
rating
and
ranking
at
the
five
County
Association
governments.
We
requested
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
over
a
two
year
time
frame
and
we
will
purchase
low-income
housing
to
be
occupied
by
eligible
low-income
families
or
individuals.
B
L
Two
could
pay
$400,
even
though
they're
the
same
apartment,
but
it
just
depends
on
these
units.
We
haven't
picked
them
out
because
it's
government
money
and
you
all
know
how
that
works.
We
can't
identify
or
select
a
location
until
it
is
environmentally
cleared.
So
it's
kind
of
weird
we
want
to
buy
low-income
housing,
but
I
can't
tell
you
where
it
is
or
what
it
is.
L
Until
we
identify
a
few
and
get
an
environmental
clearance
on
all
of
those
and
then
if
we
need
match
funding
so
say
we
found
six
units
for
$500,000,
then
we
would
need
other
funding
to
put
with
those
and
the
other
funding.
May
include
rental
assistance,
so
their
rent
may
be
different
for
apartment
or
it
may
include
tax
credit
funding
or
alene
walker
funding,
which
should
bring
the
income
targeting
down.
So
I
can't
tell
you
what
they.
B
L
We
don't
have
any,
we
have
over,
we
own
over
a
hundred
units
and
we
have
almost
or
we
have
139
vouchers
at
the
housing
authority,
which
is
where
they
take
a
voucher
from
the
housing
authority
and
they
go
out
into
the
community.
So
we
do
prior
landlord
reference
checks,
criminal
background
screening
and
income
verifications
through
a
third
party.
So
like.
L
Did
it
answer,
though,
because
a
lot
of
people
are
curious
and
it's
hard
to
it,
because
we
do
a
lot
of
types
of
assistance.
Some
assistance
is
based
on
the
you
on
the
person,
so
is
they
move
from
unit
to
unit
our
HUD
vouchers
can
go
with
them?
They
can
even
purchase
homes
if
they've
been
on
our
program
for
a
year,
so
those
vouchers
go
with
them
which
are
great,
and
then
we
have
unit
based
assistance.
Which
means
is
the
tenants,
come
and
go
that
particular
apartment
all.
B
H
L
L
Well
now
the
state
has
to
Clara,
so
we
apply
and
they
make
sure
you're
eligible
and
that
you
have
your
cities
support
and
the
community
doesn't
have.
So
if
I
said,
I
was
going
to
build
I,
don't
know
something
crazy.
You
know
a
bomb
building
Factory
on
Main,
Street
or
whatever
that
the
public
has
an
uproar.
Then
they
they
want
to
know
that,
so
we
disclose
all
of
that.
L
A
Q
W
Canvas
house
with
the
Elks
Lodge
and
for
those
that
don't
know
this
is
our
fundraising
to
get
money
to
buy
shoes.
Last
year
we
did
I
think
a
hundred
pairs
of
shoes
for
shop
with
a
cop
plus
I
think
eight
for
the
crisis
center
and
a
few
other
for
people
in
town
that
asked
for
help.
So
this
is
not
just
our
fundraising,
so
you
guys
are
okay
with
it
all.
I
K
C
A
G
O
B
G
O
G
B
C
A
J
A
I
O
B
Loving
sure
they
don't
want
to
like
get
that
in
as
part
of
the
deal
they
just
want
that
peace.
O
A
T
R
Let
you
know
that
there
kid,
if
you'll
pull
up
back
up,
we,
you
have
a
water
line
that
runs
right
through
the
top
of
that
I.
Don't
know
how
to
work
this
thing,
but
our
water
line
from
that
tank
comes
down
through
here
and
cuts
that
corner.
So
we
are
going
to
have
to
have
an
easement
through
there
and
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
bury
people
6
feet
deep,
that's
going
to
interfere
with
our
water
line,
so
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
that'll.
O
G
F
B
A
Q
Hi,
my
name
is
Dave
Cohen
and
talk
about
traffic
safety
on
our
street.
I
was
the
first
one
in
here
today
and
I
am
as
the
room
filled
up
at
Dona
me.
I
should
have
taken
a
xanax
but
I'll
try
to
get
through
this
I
first
like
to
say,
I
expressed
my
gratitude
that
we
live
in
a
community
where
we
can
voice
our
concerns.
I
appreciate
that
I've
lived
in
Cedar
City
for
20
years.
I've
made
my
life
here
and
my
wife
and
I
have
lived
on
1150
west
for
13
years
now.
Q
First,
the
first
years
I
rented.
Then
we
bought
the
house
from
Tony
and
Richard
hunter
and
we've
owned
it
for
12
years.
We've
always
been
aware
of
the
speeding
two
on
our
street
and
other
neighbors
like
us
have
expressed
concern
and
they've
always
told
me
that
no
one
will
do
anything
about
it.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
true
or
not,
but
I've
come
here
to
make
an
appeal
to
you
to
make
our
streets
safer
for
the
residents
on
it.
Q
Our
street
is
arguably
one
of
the
busier
residential
streets
in
town
I
think
due
to
the
access
to
200
North,
both
ways
from
lai
Hill,
the
college
and
from
the
south.
We
have
a
lot
of
traffic
over
the
years.
I've
spoken
to
to
Cedar
City
police
officers
about
our
street
I
asked
them
if
they
could
stake
it
out
and
jokingly
said
they
would
fill
their
quota,
but
rather
quickly
on
our
on
our
street
I've,
even
offered
them
my
driveway
bathroom
kitchen,
Donuts
can't.
U
R
Q
And
one
officer
told
me
that
the
city
just
simply
didn't
have
the
resources
to
do
that
kind
of
doubted
that
I've
seen
stakeouts
in
other
areas
of
town.
The
other
officer
told
me
he
doubted
my
claims
about
how
fast
people
were
driving
down
the
street,
so
I
decided
I.
It's
true
that
I'm,
not
an
expert
at
judging
speed.
I,
don't
know
how
fast
exactly
people
are
driving
but
like
Supreme,
Court
justice,
Potter
Stewart
once
said
about
pornography
regarding
speed,
I
know
it
when
I
see
it.
I
Q
Had
my
son
clock
me
at
25,
30,
35
and
40
miles
an
hour.
I
might
add
on
a
day
when
there
were
no
cars
or
people
present
and
the
respective
times
for
each
of
these
were
thirteen
point
one
five
miles
an
hour
for
twenty
five,
ten
point:
three
seven
seconds:
four,
thirty
and
so
on.
So
now
it
was
just
a
matter
of
me
sitting
in
front
of
my
yard
and
I
guess:
I
should
go
to
them.
Maybe
the
next
slide
is
you'll
see
that
car,
in
the
background
is
at
the
intersection
starting
to
travel
down.
Q
Our
street
photo
was
taken
by
the
tree
that
I
used
for
my
line.
That's
three
hundred
thirteen
feet
away,
so
what
I
did
on
to
random
days
during
the
summer
of
2015,
when
I
was
recovering
from
surgery,
I
sat
in
my
front
yard
for
about
two
hours
give
or
take,
and
I
observed
68
cars
driving
north
towards
200
north,
and
these
were
the
results
see
if
I
can
get
back
to
that.
Q
Q
Now
after
my
trials
at
the
football
field,
I
was
impressed
by
two
things.
First
of
all,
you
have
to
really
push
it
to
get
up
to
35
miles
an
hour
in
313
feet,
but
secondly,
I
really
doubt
there
anyway,
that
a
driver,
traveling
it
even
30
or
35
miles
an
hour
could
avoid
hitting
someone
who
was
entering
the
roadway
in
between
cars.
I.
Q
Think
that's
the
reason
why
there's
a
25
mile
an
hour,
speed
limit,
although
there
is
no
sign
posted
as
such
and
I
doubt
that
if
there
was
a
sign
posted
that
people
would
hear
to
it
anyway,
now
this
was
was
my
dog
Maggie.
She
was
our
dog.
She
was
a
very
beautiful
border,
collie
I
last
some
September
I
got
a
call
at
work
for
my
wife
informing
me
that
Maggie
was
hit
and
killed
while
wandering
out
on
the
street
a
neighbor
that
witnessed
this
told
me
when
I
got
home.
Q
They
love
writing
these
cards.
They
love
pushing
them
around
and
they're
pretty
good
at
it,
but
kids
being
kids
I,
sometimes
wonder:
I
want
I
worry
about
them
and,
of
course
they
try
I
try
to
make
sure
that
I'm
out
there
when
they
are
but
I'm
still
concerned,
because
it
only
takes
one
incident,
especially
when
a
drivers
traveling
at
35
or
40
miles
an
hour.
Q
K
Darren
Adams,
please
de
Parma
I,
know
Dave,
probably
doesn't
remember.
We
used
to
work
out
at
the
same
gym
and
I
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
him
and
understand
his
concern.
I
would
submit
a
couple
of
things
that
we
can
do.
First
and
foremost,
we
do
have
a
speed
trainer
that
we
can
put
up
as
a
deterrent.
It
also
shows
speed
for
travelers
that
won't
maybe
tell
us
facts
or
data,
but
it
will
certainly
slow
people
down.
Of
course,
extra
targeted
enforcement
will
work.
K
We
can
maybe
even
work
with
kit
and
look
at
doing
an
85th
percentile
study
to
really
gauge
what
vehicles
are
traveling
and
then
we
know
for
a
fact
what
the
speeds
like.
So
those
are
a
few
things
that
I'm
sure
we
can
do
to
first
determine
the
severity
and
the
validity
of
the
problem,
but
then
also
to
to
gauge
from
an
officer's
perspective.
What's
what's
truly
going
on
so.
Q
I'd
like
to
say
to
that
I
think
whenever
someone
poses
a
problem,
I
think
it's
kind
of
good
to
think
about
solutions
and
I
thought
about
those
things,
especially
the
trailer
I
would
submit
that
that
kind
of
biases,
a
driver,
they'll
they'll,
probably
tend
to
slow
down
and,
of
course,
when
that
trailer
goes
away,
so
does
the
slower
speeds
again.
This
is
just
a
theory
and
and
I
guess:
I
should
say
fairly
that
I
did
try
to
apply
the
scientific
method
here
to
determine
speed
but
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
flaws
of
my
research.
Q
Q
Q
O
O
Those
numbers
on
that
speed
study
don't
bode
well
in
his
defense
because,
as
the
chief
said
and
I
think
I've
mentioned
you
before
that
we
set
our
speeds
at
the
85th
percentile
speed.
His
speed
studies
show
that
is
at
83
percent
of
the
cars
were
going
25
and
there's
a
certain
percentage
going
of
less
than
25.
So
you
know
his
speed.
B
K
Chief
Adams
again
with
the
police
department,
we
get
these
often,
as
you
can
imagine
all
over
town.
In
fact,
we
just
had
one
the
other
day
on
1,400
West
I
have
no
doubt
because
of
the
thought
of
a
new
subdivision
at
the
bottom
of
the
street
and
we're
hearing
that
people
are
traveling
down
that
road
50
miles
an
hour
and
not
to
doubt
the
residents.
Perception
sometimes
isn't
reality,
but
we
certainly
want
to
give
elyda
tea
to
their
perceptions
and
make
sure
we
target
that.
K
B
H
J
B
Maybe
we
take
one
of
these
surplus
police
cars
and
just
park
it
on
the
street
and
put
a
dummy.
F
Q
I
really
appreciate
your
time.
I
know
you
can't
do
this
with
every
street
I
understand
this.
Is
my
street
there's
a
lot
of
streets,
but
you
know
whatever
your
policies
are
about.
Eighty
three
percent
or
eighty
five,
whatever
it
is,
that
leaves
fifteen
percent
that
put
a
lot
of
people
in
peril.
So
I
would
appreciate
any
attention
that
you
give
this
I
thanks.
A
V
V
B
G
A
N
A
So
there
is
anyone
that
would
like
to
address
the
council
on
this
issue:
yeah.
Okay,
then,
while
you
will
close
our
public
hearing
and
it
will
be
continued
after
it
goes
before.
Planning
Commission,
all
right
item
number
six,
consider
and
Jana.
Why?
First
refusal
agreement
lake
with
Lee
Grimm's
concerning
water
rights
he's
attempting
to
purchase
so.
V
V
Approximately
ten
years
ago,
this
property
was
annexed
into
the
city.
This
property's
intentions
to
be
used
for
agricultural
purposes,
so
the
city
entered
a
first
right,
a
refusal
agreement
with
her.
So
if
that
property
has
ever
sold
or
developed,
the
city
would
have
the
first
right
to
purchase
those
water
routes.
So
ten
years
has
gone
by
and
miss
Davis
would
like
to
sell
this
property
to
her
grandson,
who
intends
to
run
it
for
agricultural
purposes
as
well.
It's
they
grow
hay
on
the
property.
V
Without
these
water
rights,
he
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
that,
and
they
still
want
to
honor
this
first
right
of
refusal
agreement
so
that
if
they
ever
chose
to
sell
it
or
to
develop
it,
then
city
would
have
the
first
right
to
purchase
that
so
before
the
grandson
goes
forward
and
purchases.
This,
the
hope
is
that
he
has
some
assurance
from
the
city
that
will
enter
this
agreement,
so
he
can
buy
it
for
he's
intending
to
use
it
for.
B
A
G
B
O
Into
it,
the
iron
counties
constructing
the
Public
Safety
Building
out
behind
the
jail
out
on
DL
Sargent,
Drive
and
they've
had
a
few
overruns
on
the
on
the
project.
You
know
expenses
on
the
project
and
we
gave
them
a
bill.
I
think
was
for
57,000
or
51,000,
can't
remember
for
impact
fees
on
the
project
and
they're,
trying
to
scrape
together
some
money
to
pay
for
that
I
think
they
paid
for
most
of
that
today.
O
39,000
or
something
brought
a
check
in
for
approximately
39,000
pay
that
much
on
us.
They
would
like
to
do
an
agreement
for
this
is
complicated,
but
there's
some
property
over
here
on
200
East,
that
sitll
a
house
for
sale
and
they're,
hoping
that
they
can
buy
that
property
from
Sittler
I.
Guess:
there's
an
auction
coming
up
in
a
couple
weeks
to
buy
that
property
and
agreement
basically
says:
if
they
buy
that
property,
then
we'll
give
them
credit
towards
their
impact
fees
for
the
sewer
and
water
connections
on
that
on
that
property.
O
O
R
Probably
Mitchell
water
department,
so
in
the
contract
under
number
one
II,
it
talks
about
first
thing.
It
says
if
and
when
any
future
development
the
policy
we
run
right
now
is
for
them
to
get
credit
for
the
existing
connections.
Those
connections
have
to
be
dead
and
off
of
the
main,
the
city
standard
is
a
one
foot
within
the
may
so
in
in
the
agreement
it
says
now
that
it
can
be
years
down
the
road
before
they
ever
go
in
there
when
they
decide
what
they're
going
to
do
with
it
and
dead
in
those
connections.
R
R
In
here
it
says
that
the
city
is
responsible
to
track
it,
but
that's
what
I
say
twenty
years
down
the
road
when
we're
all
gone,
if
they
go
to
set
a
meter
in
there
and
there's
water
there
nobody's
going
to
know
that
that
the
fees
have
been
transferred.
So
if
anybody
ever
goes,
if
it's
cut
and
capped
and
they
go
to
turn
the
water
on
it's
not
there,
we
dig
it
up
and
it's
capped
and
cut.
Then
we
know
for
a
reason
that
those
fees
have
been
transferred
to
somewhere
else.
So
that's
my
only
problem.
H
H
R
I
I
would
say
30
days,
I
just
went
through
this
with
the
North
Elementary
they're,
trying
to
get
a
two-inch
meter,
I
made
them
go
in
there
and
deaden
the
connection
that
they're
transferring
so
they
dead
not
today,
as
soon
as
they
pay
for
the
meter,
we
will
set
the
new
meter
in
their
connection.
So
I
would
just
a
rough
time
frame.
I
would
put
30
days
on
myself,
but
that's
not
Mike.
That's
your
Tyler's,
but
battle.
R
A
K
K
B
K
K
A
D
W
G
K
B
K
K
Boneyard
P
79
is
another
one:
that's
again
high
mileage
that
we're
trying
to
move
on
P
60,
69
273,
those
are
ones
we've
used,
despairs
and
also
that
we've
allowed
our
VIPs
to
use
they're,
not
ideal
or
reliable
anymore.
These
are
them
worked,
Crown,
Victorias,
they're,
extremely
outdated
and
are
now
far
behind
other
vehicles
in
technology
and
power.
K
We
use
that
as
a
second
k9
vehicle
and
we
implemented
the
second
dog
which
was
great
then
because
it
it
allowed
us
to
implement
a
second
k9
at
virtually
no
cost.
So
we
put
a
kennel
in
the
back,
and
so
it's
got
a
lot
of
wear
from
the
animal
inside
and
a
lot
of
high
engine
idle
time,
because
that
vehicle,
above
others
has
to
idle
to
control
the
temperature
regulation
for
the
dog.
So
those
are
the
ones
we
have
ten
that
we'd
like
to
to
declare
surplus
and
get
those
either
transferred
or
sold
and.
K
H
Give
cash
now
to
the
list
that
I
said
on
your
table:
yeah
we
were
talking
to
Corey
child's
and
he
indicated
that
that
he
also
had
a
number
of
vehicles
that
he
wanted
to
put
on
the
surplus
auction
list.
All
of
the
vehicles
were
going
to
talk
about,
have
been
determined
by
each
division
had
to
be
declared
surplus
because
they
are
now
costing
too
much
money
to
keep
and
maintain,
or
the
usage
of
the
vehicles
is
way
too
low
to
keep
the
vehicles
around
any
longer
and
I'll.
Just
read
off
the
vehicles.
H
H
Corey,
oh
man,
an
86
Dodge
250,
a
91
Ford
f-350
91
Chevy
1500
2003,
Ford,
f-350,
1994,
GMC,
3500,
2001,
Dodge,
1500,
1991,
Chevy,
2500,
1995,
Ford
f-150,
and
a
1982
Ford
two-ton.
So
on
your
list,
you'll
see
on
the
very
far
left
hand
side
a
code
with
it
says:
pra
p,
r9
s,
128,
the
the
letters
indicate
what
department
those
vehicles
are
coming
out
of,
so
parking
for
parks
and
recs
is
PR.
S
is
straights
streets,
mouths,
golf
courses,
G
C
and
then
quarry
tracks
that
vehicles
in
each
department
by
number.
H
Think
these
are
vehicles
that
were
that
were
again
either
too
expensive
to
maintain
and
or
not
being
used
any
longer
we
want
to
get
rid
of.
There
are
a
number
of
replacement
vehicles
in
the
tentative
budget
and
there
are
a
number
of
vehicles
in
the
tentative
budget
that
we're
going
to
suggest
that
we
shift
around
between
departments
to
extend
their
lives
once
they've
been
replaced
in
one
department.
They
go
to
another
partner
and
have
another
another
career.
That's
the
process
for
he'll
put
all
these
he'll
put
Darrin's
vehicles
and
all
these
on
auction.
Okay,
so.
N
L
I
M
O
He's
gonna
do
most
the
presentation
on
this
I
just
wanna.
Give
you
a
little
idea
of
where
this
is
going.
If
you
don't
know,
this
is.
O
O
H
U
Yeah
Keith
Miller
the
police
department,
I'm
kind
of
sad
that
my
topic
isn't
as
good
as
Darren's,
but
I
guess
we
got
to
deal
with
it
or
early
March.
We
sent
out
that
proposal,
request
for
proposals
on
the
design
and
and
whatnot
for
the
new
animal
shelter.
We
got
five
responses
from
five
different
architects
and
engineering
firms
and
what
we
did
is
we
put
together
a
group
of
evaluators.
U
We've
got
seven
of
us
mayor,
Wilson,
council,
member
Craig,
Isom
Paul
Bittman
drew
Jackson
a
kid
wore
him
Darren,
Adams
and
myself,
and
as
these
came
in,
we
we
had
a
scoring
sheet
that
we
kind
of
wanted
to
propose
a
certain
amount
of
points
for
each
category
and
we
took
each
one
of
these
proposals
and
scored
them.
And
then
we
met
together
as
a
group
and
compared
scores,
and
this
is
the
results
of
the
scoring
process
and
see
RSA
I
scored
the
highest
and
so
we're
going
to.
O
Their
CRC
RSA
is
a
firm
from
Salt
Lake,
but
they
do
have
a
satellite
office
in
in
st.
George
and
they're.
Gonna
try
to
be
here
too,
and
they
introduce
themselves
but
I,
don't
think
they
made
it
or
they
had
to
leave
early
wanted
to.
But,
anyhow
of
all
these
six
proposals,
the
five
proposals
that
were
made.
They
were
one
that
have
some
significant
experience
in
animal
shelters
and
was
pretty
pretty
evident.
You
know
who
we
should
recommend
it.
H
I
J
K
Yeah-
and
that
was
part
of
the
proposal
that
was
appealing
really
with
all
of
them-
is
that
timely
meeting
and
updates
and
collaboration,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
we
work
together-
Tina's
been
fantastic
down
there,
but
she
does
have
somewhat
of
a
unilateral
view,
and
sometimes
she
may
request
things
or
see
things
differently
than
maybe
what
we
see,
and
so
we
we
need
all
come
together,
make
sure
they're
all
on
the
same
page.
Well,.
K
G
A
C
I'm
Heather
Steinem
Justin
of
James
Brown
with
architectures
wife
I,
just
wanted
to
make
the
comment
that
in
graduate
we
haven't
seen
the
proposals,
the
other
proposals,
but
we
think
it
did
count
for
a
lot
that
you
had
three
of
the
four
firms
involved:
local.
C
K
G
A
Right,
okay:
item
number
ten
committee
appointments.
So
it
is
that
time
of
year,
where
our
number
of
our
city
committee,
appointments
are
up
so
with
that
I
will
go
through
there.
Some
that
I
am
still
waiting
to
hear
back
from
the
individuals,
so
those
names
will
be
presented
again
next
week.
So
we
can
have
this
gone
an
action
agenda
and
then
go
through
that
for
the
airport
bill.
Mcveigh
and
Bert
Paulson
were
both
appointed
to
fill
remaining
terms
of
other
individuals,
and
we
would
like
to
reappoint
both
of
those
for
board
of
adjustments.
A
We
would
like
to
appoint
Roger
Thomas
and
Powell
Phil
Schmidt
and
Jill
Peterson
at
for
Katz
we'd,
like
to
appoint
Brody
son
for
cross
hollows
we'd
like
to
appoint
rusty,
Aiken
and
Riza
Phyllis
for
housing,
we'd
like
to
appoint
Margaret
Miller
and
Georgia
Beth
Thompson
Hannon
commissioned
Jill
Peterson.
The
reason
we
said
her
name
choice
is
because
a
member
of
Planning
Commission
also
serves
on
the
board
of
adjustments.
That's
why
that
name
is
twice
for
the
rap
tax
art,
Randy
Allen.
A
B
I
go
back
to
the
last
one
again,
so
what
they're
charging
is
not
figured
into
the
thing
before
they're
chosen,
I.
O
B
D
F
B
O
B
D
B
M
Jason
Norris,
fine
and
good
evening,
Council
I,
know
you've
been
excited
for
this
portion
of
the
meeting
like
we
all
are
it's
that
time
of
year
again,
where
we're
presenting
our
tentative
budget
for
fiscal
year
2018,
we
will
have
formal
meetings
next
Monday
and
Tuesday,
where
department
heads
will
come
in
and
present
portions
of
their
budget
to
Council
and
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
The
mayor's
tentative
budget
is
based
on
meetings
that
we've
had
internally
and
budget
documents
and
requests
that
have
been
submitted
from
departments
and
we've
filtered
that
down
and
made
some
recommendations.
M
Our
main
focus
that
we
want
to
use
those
increase
funds
on
our
personnel
costs
for
our
workforce.
The
mayor's
proposed
a
few
full-time
positions.
One
is
a
school
resource
officer
that
will
be.
The
cost
will
be
shared
with
the
Iron
County
School
District,
we're
recommending
a
parks
field
supervisor
to
be
an
assistant
to
the
director
and
then
also
a
water
worker.
Three,
we
are
proposing
a
2.5%
merit,
increase
for
full-time,
regular,
part-time
employees
and
also
a
1%
cost-of-living
increase.
M
M
Just
know
that's
how
the
private
sector
likes
to
take
the
proposals
sound
good,
so
I'm,
passing
that
on
our
enterprise
funds
are
in
a
positive
operating
position.
We're
continuing
to
address
infrastructure
needs,
fund
balances
are
good,
they'll
allow
us
to
do
several
capital
projects
and
water
and
sewer
as
well
as
I
know.
M
We
have
some
future
planning
for
major
capital
infrastructure
in
the
enterprise
funds
and
we'll
address
that
also,
and
then
we
had
a
our
library
refunding
bond
portion
of
our
library
bond
matured
general
obligation
debt
there,
so
that
will
come
off
the
books,
that's
about
two
hundred
and
twenty-six
thousand
dollars
and
we
won't
be
rebonding
with
those
funds.
So
I
can
answer
any
questions
tonight
or
we
can
address
them
if.
B
A
B
That
was
a
clue,
but
they
they
ran
a
bunch
of
their
bonds
through
and
got
lower
rates
and
and
saved
a
whole
bunch
of
money.
Have
we
done
that
recently?
We
did.
M
That
or
we
some
one
that
was
done
right
before
I
arrived,
they
went
through
when
rates
were
very
low
there
and
we
funded
a
few
bonds
that
were
callable.
They
had
just
issued
the
Aquatic
Center
bond,
it's
a
Build
America
bond,
so
it
has
a
little
bit
of
a
federal
subsidy
that
goes
with
it
and
that
one
could
be
refinanced,
but
with
that
subsidy
it
wasn't
really
favorable
to
do
that.
And
then
our
other
recent
issues
have
been
placed
with
state
bank
and
those
are
pretty
favorable
rates.
M
A
It
is
in
your
council
packets.
Would
you
all
like
a
hard
copy
for
Monday's
meeting
I
did.
A
K
H
A
H
L
A
V
V
There
was
some
discussion
back
and
forth
about
why
we
wanted
them
to
own
that
we
decided
to
open
it
up
for
an
RFP
and
then
no
one
bid.
So
it
was
closed.
I
had
a
realtor
here
in
town
torching
last
week.
He
has
a
client
who
wants
to
look
at
purchasing
it
for
either
a
gas
station
convenience
store
type
done,
which
is
where
mr.
riah
hopped
about.
So
with
your
approval,
I'd
like
to
reopen
that
RM,
do
it
perfect,
yeah
I?
Let.