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From YouTube: CentOS Automotive SIG - May 3, 2023
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A
Okay,
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started
so
good
morning,
everyone
or
evening
or
afternoon,
where
Tyler
time
it
is
with
you.
This
is
the
May
meeting
of
the
Centos
Automotive
Sig,
where
we
talk
about
all
things:
Automotive
in
particular
the
automotive
stream
distribution
that
we
create
and
curate,
and
we,
this
meeting
happens
once
a
month,
it's
about
a
half
an
hour,
because
it's
usually
about
as
long
as
we
take
and
we
can
just
go
ahead
and
dive
in
to
the
technical
status.
A
A
Leo,
do
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
and
talk
to
us
about
this
blueprint?
That's
going
on
yep.
B
So,
as
some
people
are
know,
Sophie
has
something
called
blueprint.
That's
basically
a
document
that
describes
how
to
deploy,
install
and
run
something
you
know,
Sophie
OS
comply,
compliant
operate
system
or
image.
The
work
you
know
is
the
is
a
blueprint
that
that
that
describes
how
to
use
a
kubernetes
workloads
to
Define
applications
in
the
node
in
an
auto
device
and
run
it
in
this
particular
case.
It's
the
most.
B
A
Okay,
fantastic
for
those
who
don't
know
Sophie
is
the
is
a
mission
initiative
within
arm.
It's
a
special
interest
group
that
actually
Runs
run
by
arm
themselves
to
create
a
a
cloud
they're,
calling
it
a
cloud
native,
sdv
architecture,
software-defined
vehicle
architecture,
but
it's
actually.
The
ee
stands
for
embedded
Edge,
so
they
expect
that
this
will
eventually
be
useful
to
use
cases
even
outside
of
automotive.
A
A
Oh
they're,
doing
it
using
from
source-based
building
from
Source
directly
using
yamco
project.
Now
they
call
that
ewall,
ewaol
and
ewall
and
auto
SD,
which
is
what
we
do
is
there
are
the
two,
the
two
projects
or
distros
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
that
are
that
are
compatible
with
the
Sophie
specification.
A
So
this
is
very
interesting.
I.
Think
it's
going
to
be
very
interesting
to
folks
who
want
to
use
container
orchestration
with
with
within
this
architecture,
but
do
not
want
the
overhead
of
kubernetes.
A
B
A
Wait,
we
got
a
question
right.
Joe
is
also
working
on
Sophie
projects,
good.
D
D
B
B
So
I
was
thinking
they
are
looking
to
use.
So
Bosch
is
looking
to
use
case
of
running
him
like
Cooks
and
several
other
chariots
and
several
other
Eclipse
projects,
so
I'm
basic,
so
I'm.
What
I'm
doing
is
I'm
analyzing.
What's
the
effort
of
writing
Cooks
on
our
Eclipse
has
to
be
image,
so
we
have
a
similar
see.
B
A
E
A
One
of
those
is
Eclipse
cook
set,
which
I
think
started
in
Eclipse
iot
if
I'm
not
mistaken
anyway.
These
are
all
of
these
are
building
blocks
for
software-defined
vehicles,
but
cooksa
is
probably
the
most
the
most
mature
of
all
of
these
projects.
A
So
yeah
I
think
that
getting
that
running
on
on
auto
SD
would
be
fantastic
does
say:
it's
already
compatible
with
a
Raspberry
Pi.
A
A
B
A
Thank
you.
Any
other
questions
from
the
group
on
on
eclipse,
sdv
or
the
Sophie
blueprints,
be
glad
to
talk
about
those
things
or
actually
anything
that
anybody
wants
to
talk
about.
D
A
A
Obviously
this
is
a
kind
of
a
of
a
graphical
map
of
how
packages
flow
into
Centos
as
a
distro
on
their
way
between
fedora,
which
is
the
you
know,
the
Upstream
very
large
sort
of
experimental
project
at
the
top
through
sentos
stream,
which
is
which
I've
sort
of
it
repackages
things
and
and
sort
of
boils
them
down
and
and
brings
them
into
the
Enterprise
world
and
provides
a
seamless
contribution
path
to
towards
Red,
Hat,
Enterprise
Linux.
So
there's
a
better
diagram
down
here.
A
A
In
the
same
way,
we
in
in
the
automotive
special
interest
group
would
create
a
distribution
called
the
automotive
stream
distribution,
which
is
uses
Centos
stream
components,
it's
very
much
derivative
of
Centos
stream,
and
eventually
this
will
lead
to
a
red
hat
in
vehicle.
Os
product
that
has
not
been
announced
as
far
as
a
release
goes,
but
it's
something
that
we've
been
working
on
for
a
couple
years
now.
A
Package
flow
is
also
very
interesting.
I
think
it
shows
that
open
source
projects
start
in
the
open
source
world.
Of
course,
Fedora
has
been
a
a
great
kind
of
centralized
distribution
point
for
a
lot
of
Open
Source
projects.
I,
don't
remember
how
many
packages
there
are
in
Fedora
now,
but
it's
many
thousands.
A
F
Elen
is
an
effort
of
preparing
packages
the
same
way
they
are
built
within
Reddit,
so
it
has
been
announced
as
El
Nino,
with
the
reference
to
to
kids
in
Spanish
word,
but
it's
also
Enterprise
Linux.
Next,
the
way
that
a
subset
of
the
package
of
Fedora
are
taken
and
built
with
the
same
system
that
we
are
building
the
the
package
Within
credit,
so
eln.
A
A
Fedora
that
isn't
isn't
specifically
curated
by
or
from
eln
these.
These
things
eventually
flow
down
into
Centos
stream,
where
they
are
built
as
a
streaming
distribution
and
they
are
available
to
the
Centos
sigs,
including
the
automotive
Sig,
that
we
are
in
right
now
and
if
this
functions
as
a
a
direct
Upstream
into
red
hat
Enterprise
Linux,
which
of
course
is
red,
Hat's,
productized
version
of
this
operating
system.
A
So
I
hope
that
is
both
clear
and
interesting
and
it
kind
of
shows
shows
the
the
very
large
scale
effort
that
goes
into
the
all
of
these
packages,
making
sure
all
these
packages
are
in
good
shape
and
and
ready
for
Enterprise
level
workloads.
G
Can
you
explain
to
me
the
two
arrows
going
into
the
the
in
vehicle
OS
product
I
mean
I,
get
that
rail
hat
rail
would
be
kind
of
the
Upstream
of
the
in-vehicle
OS,
but
you've
also
got
another
arrow
from
the
the
auto
stream
distribution.
G
A
Very
good,
very
observant.
What
that
I
believe
that
indicates
is
the
kernel
that
we
use,
which
is
slightly
different
from
the
kernel
that
is
produced
with
Rel.
So
there
is
a
package
within
the
Centos
Automotive
Sig.
Let's
see
if
I
can
go,
find
it
quickly.
A
Yeah
I
I
honestly,
don't
know,
but
anyway,
this
is
the
kernel.
There
is
a
special
kernel
specifically
for
automotive.
It
does
have
real
time
turned
on
the
real-time
patch
Earth
patches
are
applied.
A
Actually
there
are
people
on
this
call
who
could
speak
much
more
clearly
to
that
than
I
can.
So
if
anybody
wants.
G
So
the
packages
come
from
Rel
and
the
kernel
comes
from
the
straightened.
The
automotive
stream.
F
E
A
C
C
So
we
are
trying
to
do
some
Ro
note.
Ota
implementation
on
the
board
may
not
be
as
a
homegrown
staff.
We
try
and
do
that
on
Orion
boards.
Actually
we
are
using
Zen
as
the
hypervisor
and
then
doing
it.
D
C
Yeah,
the
Nvidia
Orion
boards
have
good
amount
of
documentation.
You
can
actually
so
what
we
have
taken,
the
open
source,
Zen
and
then
writing
out
for
that.
So
basically,
the
the
catch
here
is
the
licensing
models
of
most
of
companies
like
excel4,
or
these
variants
right.
They
have
a
very
high
cost
and
if,
if
we
were
to
bundle
that
price
with
a
car,
it
turns
out
pretty
big
and
then
there
is
a
follow-on
cost.
Also
it
comes
up.
H
As
today,
we
are
still
based
on
the
Ohio,
in
fact,
because
we
we
just
rebuild
all
the
package
from
Rel,
which
is
in
fact
equivalent
to
Alma
Linux,
8609
I.
Think
it's
a
big
difference.
We
have
with
your
approach
as
today
is
that
we
we
still
use
the
kernel
from
the
vendors
so
and
in
fact,
there's
something.
H
Potentially
we
could
present
to
the
group,
which
is
how
we
migrate
a
kernel
from
yorkto
to
to
an
RPM
environment
and,
and
we
use
code
g
to
to
rebuild
the
full
system
and
clearly
we
we
are
very
interested
in
in
leveraging
the
especially
the
binary
ready
package,
especially
for
the
stream
version,
because
it's
a
it's
a
nightmare
to
rebuild
continuously.
F
H
Of
I
would
say
yes
and
no
all
the
real
project
I'm
not
talking
about
development,
okay,
but
also
real
project.
We
have
typically
are
running
on
custom
Hardware,
which
means
they
have
a
specific
device.
H
Potentially
they
also
have
some
property
code
like
VMware
that
you
you
have
to
install
and
clearly
they
want
to
skim
down
the
kernel
and
remove
everything
they're,
not
using.
So,
in
fact,
what
we
do
is
we.
We
use
the
standard
templating
from
Reddit
Santos,
and
we
just
inject.
H
H
H
So
yeah
I'm,
currently
I'm
working
on
the
can
acquisition.
Okay,
because
that's
also
something
that
is
needed
in
the
automotive
sector
is
to
have
some
some
key
elements
that
are
sold
out
can
acquisition
is
clearly
one
of
them.
H
Boot
time
is
another
one,
have
documentation
to
implement
easily
a
secure
boot,
so
the
list
is
pretty
long,
and
so
we
have
a
clear
separation
between
what
is
usually
specific
to
a
project
and
what
is
generic
and
what
is
generally
typically,
the
the
package,
especially
also
the
middleware
package,
and
potentially
the
kernel
source
code
of
the
current
version,
could
also
be
generic.
H
Unfortunately,
most
of
the
people
we
are
working
with
today
are
still,
depending
on
the
support
from
the
vendors,
the
broad
vendors,
which
means
that
very
often
they
are
still
forcing
us
to
to
a
specific
version
of
a
kernel.
So
for
some
people
like
Renaissance,
it's
pretty
easy
because
they
have
very
clean
kernel
and
everything
is
Upstream
for
some
other
cities,
a
nightmare
like
Qualcomm
or
or
broadcom
and
I
would
say
an
XP
and
TI
is
somehow
in
the
middle.
H
But
yeah
we
we
have,
and
as
today
we
tried
that
we
we
support
more
than
10
boards,
I,
think
six
or
eight
of
them
are
open
source.
So
you
you
can
download
as
a
raw
image
or
you
know
what
you
could
call
the
immutable
operating
systems
that
allows
you
to
install
directly
the
package
from
Santos
or
that.
F
Yeah
I
was
thinking
that
having
to
rebuild
the
Canon
will
kind
of
make
things
more
complicated
when
you
need
to
get
the
world
solution
certified
for
automotive,
because
what
the
thing
that
we
are
doing
with
Rivals
is
getting
kernel.
Api
and
other
libraries
API
certified
for
automotive
and
introducing
a
kernel,
which
is
not
the
one
that
has
been
certified
with
complicated
certification
times.
But.
E
H
We
also
typically
recompile
yogurt,
either
to
implement
some
specific
feature
to
do
some
Hardware
testing
or
just
to
to
fasten
the
boot
okay,
because
or
you
you
want
to
rewrite
your
device
free
because
you're
not
using
also
Hardware
on
the
board
and
So
you
you're
willing
to
isolate
some
part
of
the
hardware.
So
for
us
you
know
kernel,
config
or
u-boot.
Configuration
is
just
a
standard
config
within
the
full
project.
F
It's
kind
of
not
sure
that
you
will
be
able
to
do
that,
but
would
you
mind
trying
to
sum
up
the
pain
point
that
you
are
encountering
with
the
u-boot
and
the
kernel
part
that's
shipping
in
the
Centos
Auto
SD?
So
so
we
can
get
an
idea
of
things
that
maybe
can
be
improved
on
what
we
are
shipping
in
this.
H
H
If
some
people
are
interested,
we,
we
may
have
a
a
video
conference
on
that
subject
where
we
present
how
we
do
it,
and
you
know
we've
done
it
recently
for
some
customers.
So
we
have
the
slide
ready.
We
just
need
to
remove
some
names
and
it
would
be
ready
to
go
so
yeah.
We
can
organize
that
more
or
less
whenever
you
want.
A
Sure
we
can
even
book
that
for
the
next
Automotive
Sig
meeting,
if
you
like,
if.
F
A
F
F
E
A
Yeah
I
definitely
want
to
make
sure
that
what
we're
doing
is
interesting
to
as
many
people
as
possible,
so
okay,
great
well,
we
have,
we
have
about
three
more
minutes
and
I
can
actually
stop
presenting.
If
there's
anybody,
anybody
has
any
other
questions
we
can.
We
can
certainly
entertain
those
in
the
next
few
minutes.
A
G
A
That
might
be
interesting
to
cover
in
a
future
meeting.
Also
is
the
use
of
this
project
outside
outside
the
scope
of
Automotive,
because
I
know
that
it
it.
The
use
case
itself
is.
Is
you
know
the
embedded
Edge
diagram
that
I
showed
from
Sophie
is
is
applicable
to
a
number
of
different
Industries
industrial.
A
Other
Transportation
Industries,
like
like
trains
and
I,
know
that
Boeing
has
recently
started
a
a
working
group
within
Elisa
to
try
to
work
on
on
functional
safety
for
Avionics
and
so
I'm
hoping
to
meet
up
with
him
next
week
at
the
open
source
Summit
at.
H
H
Sector
as
a
military
sector
in
the
avionics
sector,
Okay,
so,
unfortunately,
most
of
this
industry
are
pretty
secret
about
the
subject,
but
we
don't
use
it
in
a
in
a
critical
environment.
You
know
it's
not
saying
Brian,
for
example,
on
on
the
helicopter.
It
is
only
to
collect
the
data
from
the
helicopter
and
then
to
you
know
when
the
helicopter
is
Landings
and
to
push
all
the
data
for
for
maintenance
and
introspection
so
yeah.
It's.
C
H
Still
the
early
day,
you
know
the
safety
remains
a
major
issue
depending
what
you
want
to
do.
But
clearly,
yes,
it's
not
limited
to
the
automotive
sector.
H
A
All
right:
well,
we
are
just
about
at
time,
so
Phillip
I
will
be
in
touch
about
doing
a
presentation
in
about
a
month,
okay,
which
is
and
and
we'll
just
go
from
there.
So
thank
you,
everybody
for
participating.
Thank
you
for
your
interest
in
the
Centos
Automotive
Sig,
and
we
will
see
you
all
in
about
a
month.