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From YouTube: CentOS Automotive SIG - July 6, 2022
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A
We
have
a
couple
of
housekeeping
items,
a
couple
of
house
quick
housekeeping
items
and
then
we
can
dive
into
the
tactical
status
so
housekeeping.
One
is
that
this
past
about
two
weeks
ago
there
was
a
centos
dojo.
It
is
a
kind
of
a
quarterly
or
every
six
months
meeting
with
in
which
all
of
the
centos
working
groups
and
sigs
like
us,
get
together
and
present
status
and
and
talk
about
the
things
that
they're
up
to
and
we
had
a
presentation
that
should
be
the
video.
A
If
it's
not
available
now
it
should
be
available
pretty
soon
so
keep
an
eye
out
for
that
housekeeping
item.
Two
was
the
the
office
hours.
We
actually
did
not
have
an
office
hours
in
june,
because
things
were
just
a
little
crazy
and
I'm
wondering
is:
do
people
miss
it?
Oh
I'm
sorry,
I'm
wondering
if
people
are
missing
the
office
hours
if
we
should
go
ahead
and
book
those,
so
we
have
a
meeting
cadence.
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A
A
We
just
probably
wouldn't
get
that
many
people
at
the
meeting
so
we'll
hold
off
on
that,
and
I
thought
there
was
one
other
housekeeping
item
that
I
thought
of
just
a
few
minutes
ago,
and
now
it's
completely
gone
from
my
head,
but
if
I
remember
I'll
bring
it
back
up
again,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
dive
into
the
technical
status
and
pierre.
Do
you
want
to
take
this
over
or
should
I
summarize.
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B
Yeah
we
looked
into
that
and
the
short
idea
is
that
we
can
get
a
linux
per
root.
So
that's
the
current
of
cietroid,
but
on
the
user
space
running
pretty
quickly
and
pretty
fine
on
android
devices.
But
the
use
case
we
wanted
to
do
was
either
building
a
full
image
so
in
the
same
way
that
we're
building
the
airspace
by
image.
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But
then
you
know
doing
that
on
another
device
and
the
problem
is
that
the
period
is
limited
by
nature
and
not
all
the
syscalls
are
implemented
and,
for
example,
the
months
syscall
is
not
implemented
and
the
build
tool
that
we're
using
was
built
actually
requires
to
mount
the
file
system
when
it's
configuring
it
when
it's
creating
it.
So
we
can't
build
images
on
the
on
android.
The
second
issue
we've
had
was
building.
The
second
use
case
we
had
was
about
building
rpms
and
the
second.
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B
So
the
role
of
dice
going,
you
know,
increa
lowering
the
possibilities
at
every
role.
We
ended
up
saying
that
it's
probably
the
the
gain
is
probably
not
worth
the
effort,
so
we
actually
stopped
this
experiment.
It's
pretty
fun!
It's
it's
pretty
quickly
to
do.
The
the
bulk
of
the
work
was
done
by
eric,
who
is
in
the
call
here
he
has
a.
B
He
has
a
very
nice
and
easy
bash
script
that
you
can
install
on
your
android
device
and
you
can
easily
get
a
linuxcs
root,
so
you
can
do
things
like
mac.
You
can
compile
an
applications
on
the
android
device,
but
for
the
two
use
case
that
we
were
looking
for,
building
images
and
building
rpms.
This
is
this
is
not
getting
it
for
us.
So
we've
parked
that
for
now.
A
A
A
B
It
also
works
on
mac
os.
Actually
it's
the
mechanism
by
which
you
can
create.
You
can
create
a
network
over
usb
by
plugging
the
raspberry
pi
by
powering
the
raspberry
pi
on
the
usbc
and
unplugging
that
on
your
laptop
and
then
a
dedicated
network
is
get
created
between
the
client,
the
laptop
and
the
raspberry
pi,
so
that,
if
you're
in
a
very
network
constraint,
environment.
B
Can't
add
a
device
to
the
to
the
network
like
this
or
if
you're,
nowhere
near
a
wi-fi
or
intro
cable,
you
can
actually
just
power
the
raspberry
but
the
raspberry
pi
over
usb-c
and
and
then
using
the
the
gadget,
the
gadgets
feature.
We
can
create
a
dedicated
network
and
then
you
can
your
ssh
to
the
pi
over
the
usb
cable.
So
that's
pretty
fun
to
do.
B
E
B
Photographs
as
well
so,
if
you're,
if
you're
looking
to
play
with
the
raspberry
pi,
it's
really
as
easy
as
downloading
the
image
flushing
it.
And
then
you
have
a
couple
of
configuration
steps
to
do
on
windows
on
mac.
It's.
We
are
not
fully
there
yet
because
we
are
still
missing.
There
is
one
piece
of
network
configuration
that
we
haven't
figured
out
yet,
but
if
someone
wants
to
take
a
shot
at
it,
it
would
be
nice.
B
B
B
A
A
A
F
A
Probably
the
biggest
one
coming
up
is
the
elisa
fall
workshop,
which
is
the
october
september
18th
and
19th
in
manchester,
and
that
is
following
the
open
source
summit
europe,
which
is
happening
the
previous
week
in
dublin.
So
you
can
remember
all
these
off
the
top
of
my
head.
Probably
not
not
easy!
A
D
A
A
E
E
E
I
guess
I'm
tempted
to
bring
up
something
I
don't
I
don't
have
anything
to
present,
but
I
just
to
elaborate
on
the
work
that
pierre
was
summarizing
there.
You
know
a
lot
of
this
was
the
the
goal
here
was
that
the
centos
centos
and
rel
and
fedora
all
of
these
are
essentially
self-hosted
device
environments
for
development.
So,
to
remind
one
of
the
reasons
we
wanted
to
explore,
these
different
ways
of
getting
compile
and
sort
of
develop
environments
running
is
because
you
have
to
run
you
know.
E
E
That
it's
panned
down
it
is
looking
very
promising
that
if
you
don't
have
easy
access
to
arm
in
any
other
way,
you
can
eventually
get
a
pie
and
it
can
you
can
plug
it
into
an
existing
developer,
workstation
and
use
it
as
sort
of
an
accelerator
and
adjunct
another
thing.
I've
been
doing
and
again
I'm
sorry.
I
don't.
E
I
should
probably
be
prepared
to
demo
this
and
we
might
even
add
it
to
some
of
the
things
we're
producing
on
the
sig,
but
it
turns
out
that
both
the
m1
max
and
the
windows
ecosystem
provide
ways
to
run
these
sort
of
conventional
workstation
os's
on
arm.
So
there
is
windows
for
arm
as
well
and
as
people
probably
know,
the
latest
macs
are,
and
both
of
them
have
easy
access
to
virtualization
environments,
where
you
can
essentially
run
the
sig
images
unmodified.
E
If
you
wish
so,
and
these
turn
out,
I
mean
they're
more
expensive,
but
they're
not
prohibitively
expensive.
It's
not
the
same
cost.
You
know
it's
not
greater
than
10
000
euros
or
usd
that
you
might
have
to
pay
for
a
server
machine
and
they
do
provide
a
pretty
nice
development
environment
and
and
don't
have
any
of
the
challenges
of
something
like
running
on
a
phone
so
something
to
be
aware
of
as
well
so
you're
going
to
bring
that
up
and
not
demo.
E
B
E
And
hyper-v
integration
with
linux
is
actually
an
example
of
where
microsoft
has
become
the
opposite
of
once
they
what
they
once
were
to
the
open
source
community.
The
para
virtualized
drivers
to
optimize
running
guests
inside
of
hyper-v
were
developed
by
microsoft
in
the
upstream
linux
kernel
and
they
work
just
great.
So
you
can
run
a
very
fast
capable
development,
virtual
machine
and
we're
even
facilitating
that
with
some
of
our
our
potential
customers
on
the
red
hat
and
vehicle
os
side
of
things.
B
D
F
D
A
I
have
not
touched
a
mac
since
the
days
when
they
were
square
cubic
little
cubicle
devices,
so
it's
been
a
while,
probably
all
right,
the
little
little
bitty
ones.
So,
okay.
Well
I'm
glad
to
open
up
the
discussion
if
anybody
has
anything
that
they
want
to
to
bring
up
to
the
cig
any
questions,
any
issues,
anything
that
you've
run
into
while
you've
been
running
playing
with
things.
G
Hi
this
is
here
yep,
I
think
we
just
joined
or
my
team
is
also
there
liz.
You
know
we
are
from
tatlexi
and
based
on
a
discussion
with
red
hat
yesterday.
We
got
this
invite
and
we
just
joined
so
basically
just
a
quick
introduction.
We
are
an
embedded
company
and
we
mostly
work
on
the
automotive
space,
amber
development
on
different
boats
like
the
r
car,
quick,
12,
cryptel,
qualcomm
and
eminent
rs850.
You
know
vehicle
processor,
different
vehicle
processors.
G
One
question
I
I
I
mean
just
absorbing
all
the
things,
but
just
one
question
I
had
is
from
a
vehicle
interface
perspective.
If
you
are
using
pi,
you
know
a
board
like
five
four:
how
is
it?
How
is
it
envisioned?
No,
because
that
will
be
a
core
component
to
be
able
to
show
to
oems
or
deploying
an
automotive
how
the
how
we
can
interface
with
the
can
or
other
vehicle
some
ip.
E
So
I
can
take
a
stab
at
that.
I
don't.
I
don't
think.
None
of
the
platforms
that
we've
talked
about
here
are
necessarily
targeted
at
being
able
to
do
sort
of
hill
level
testing.
This
was
honestly
more
about
giving
people
a
place
to
do
initial
compilation,
unit
testing,
mocked
out,
testing
and
whatnot.
E
E
G
E
Yeah,
let's
we
were
talking,
this
is
more
about
what
how
to
do
it,
since
other
operating
systems
in
this
space
are
built
around
cross
compilation.
So
people
are
familiar
with
the
yakto
project
and
automotive
grade
linux,
which
is
a
derivative
of
that
you
can.
The
development
environments
can
be
x86,
and
then
you
only
need
to
use
target
hardware
or
the
target
architecture.
E
F
G
E
Yeah,
I
think
that'd
be
great.
I
think
our
our
challenge
for
most
of
this.
This
sig
was
chartered
in
the
midst
of
the
chip
crisis,
and
it
has
been
very
hard.
It's
been
challenging
for
us
even
to
get
access
to
the
reference
hardware
that
is,
is
relevant
to
some
of
our
customer
interactions.
So,
but
could
you
could
you
put
the
names
of
those
platforms
in
the
chat
so
that
we
get
them
correctly,
because
I
think
we
have
talked
at
a
few
others
of
these
that
it
would
be.
E
E
It
gets
in
into
another
area
of
focus
that
we've
had,
and
I
think
is
another
thing
that
this
sig
could
be
helpful.
For
is
that
the
another
thing
that
comes
from
the
yakdo,
open,
embedded,
automotive
grade
linux,
environment
and
even
some
of
the
commercial
r
tosses
is
the
notion
that
you,
each
piece
of
hardware,
is
uniquely
enabled
for
the
operating
system,
which
is
also
not
common
to
the
way
that
fedora
and
rel
work.
E
B
A
One
thing
I
have
been
asked
twice
in
the
last
two
weeks
is:
when
are
we
going
to
be
supporting
risk?
Five
and
people
probably
noticed
my
risk
5
cup?
I
worked
on
the
risk
5
project
for
years.
The
answer
to
that,
as
is
the
answer
with
a
lot
of
things,
is
as
soon
as
there's
hardware
available.
I'm
sure
that
we
will,
we
will
think
about
addressing
it.
A
E
E
E
We
were
talking
about
this
in
a
meeting
earlier
today
that
in
in
server
architecture
and
software
deployment,
we
have
the
idea
of
a
stage
environment
which
is
you
know
it
very
closely
matches
what
it
is
that
you're
eventually
going
to
deploy-
and
it's
very
difficult
to
do-
that
in
in
an
automobile-
is
what
we're
hearing
more
and
more.
But
the
number
of
the
number
of
full
up
test
beds
is
pretty
limited
in
a
lot
of
cases.
A
E
D
H
A
F
F
So
it
can
be
useful
for
things
like
that
as
well,
because
when
you're
looking
in
those
sort
of
areas,
the
vm
isn't
so
suitable,
because
it's
it's
hard
to
talk
directly
to
the
hardware
and
and
the
arm
ecosystem.
A
lot
of
those
components
are
are
very
proprietary.
So
that's
something
personally,
I
find
raspberry
pi
kind
of
useful
for.
A
F
C
Definitely
some
good
reading
I'll,
try
and
find
the
the
link
there's
a
youtube
video
of
him
setting
up
just
basically,
he
went
to
the
junkyard
at
the
ecu
got
the
dash
and
the
wiring
harness,
and
that's
all,
but
you
know
a
couple
of
the
sensors
and
everything
like
that
as
well,
but
just
he
shows
it
walks
you
through
how
to
do
it
with
just
basic
stuff
from
the
junkyard
and
all
the
canned
sniffing
he's
doing
is
on
linux
as
well.
So.
A
H
A
We
should
do
a
demo
of
all
these
different
methods
at
some
point.
We
will
plan
to
do
that
next
month
for
the
august
meeting,
which
I
should
have
at
my
fingertips,
but
I
do
not.
I
believe
it
is
it's.
These
these
meetings
are
attended
are
on
the
first
wednesday,
so
I
believe
we're
looking
at
august
3rd.
A
A
E
A
Otherwise
we
will
wrap
it
up
for
the
month
and
not
seeing
anybody
unmuting
or
anything
we'll
go
ahead
and
wrap
up
all
right.
Well,
thank
you.
Everybody
for
coming.
This
has
been
a
really
good
discussion.
I
will
get
the
video
and
some
minutes
up
over
the
next
day
or
so,
and
we
will
see
you
all
next
month
and
be
sure
to
chime
in
on
the
mailing
list
or
on
the
the
chat
channel.