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Township of Central Frontenac Special Council meeting 2023-02-06
A
B
D
B
C
E
E
And
we
put
60
000
into
reserves
for
the
generator
for
half
the
year
and
the
Arden
Park
Hall
we
added
a
little
bit
of
money
after
the
fire
chief
was
out
looking
at
it
on
the
weekend,
but
that
was
on
Friday
with
the
brother,
but
that's
coming
from
Reserve,
so
in
the
end
we're
still
at
2.7,
so
the
numbers
really
haven't
changed
a
whole
lot.
Since
we
left
the
last
meeting.
A
A
B
A
A
F
A
So
these
the
first
is
revenue
of
each
Hall
and
the
first
one
is
Hanson
Brook,
so
a
thousand
dollars
is
budgeted.
The
actual
was
where
was
actuals
7.95
correct
in
the
is
that
negative.
A
It's,
oh,
it's
Revenue!
So
it's
okay,
yeah
and
Oak
Flats
expenses
for
the
hall
was
six
thousand
nine
hundred
and
thirty
budget,
and
last
year
we
approved
five
thousand,
but
we
had
all.
We.
A
71.,
so
we
overspent
okay,
ballpark
Fairgrounds,.
A
We've
budgeted-
let's
see,
what's
this
one
Material
supplies
and
repairs
for
the
ballpark
of
6500,
what's
that
to
do
Andy
just
approximate
a
few
things:
I.
G
Can
speak
to
that
I'm
out
of
Mayor?
That's
your
general
maintenance
as
things
come
up,
but
there's
also
there's
also
some
small
little
projects
in
there
for,
like
the
inside
of
that
operating
budget
for
some
fence,
repair
and
stuff,
like
that
I
think
it's
important
before
we
go
through
any
of
the
outdoor
facilities.
G
Kathy
may
want
to
speak
to
it
a
little
bit,
but
the
rec
committee
requests
have
not
been
all
entered
into
this,
so
I
think
it
might
be
important
for
Kathy
to
maybe
speak
to
that
for
a
second
or
I
can
but
the
go
ahead.
Tyson
be
the.
B
G
Mic
yeah
the
rec
committee
requests.
We
have
I
think
we
need
a
little
more
discussion
on
today
before
they
get
entered
into
the
budget.
G
A
higher
level
discussion
is
that
other
than
a
few
of
the
major
the
major
high
dollar
projects
is
that
staff
is
quite
pleased
with
all
the
correct
committee
requests
and
for
the
all
the
little
it's
a
lot
of
little
projects
combined
a
few
thousand
dollars
for
smaller
items,
adding
up
to
each
one
being
somewhere
in
the
range
of
4
500
to
7,
000
per
district
and
staff
is
overall
pleased
with
what
the
recommendations
are
requesting.
G
So
it's
kind
of
up
to
you
how
deep
we
want
to
dive
into
all
those
little
ones.
That
could
be
a
long
discussion,
but
those
still
need
to
be
added
in
here
am
I
right
on
that
Michael.
Yes,.
G
Trust
staff
and
Rec
committee
leap
heads
to
just
think
the
projects
are
all
reasonable
that
were
submitted
then
that
they
would
probably
save
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
today.
Okay,.
A
G
Right
and
and
some
combinations
of
some
materials
with
some
volunteer
work
to
improve
bathrooms,
there's
also,
but
then
it's
important
that
everybody
recognize
there
was
some
bigger
items.
Eighty
thousand
dollar
items
at
one
time,
there's
talk
of
new
friars
and
there's
some
of
the
bigger
items
and
I
know
each
area
is
not
going
to
forget
them
to
bring
them
up
today.
That's
for
sure,
so
those
ones
have
been
removed.
B
I
A
All
right
so,
let's
go
down
then
so
we're
about
the
same
for
each
of
the
areas
between
four
and
eight
thousand.
Any
questions
on
any
of
those.
E
Out
of
Mayor,
if
I
can
just
say
one
thing,
the
printer
that
I
gave
Council
today
we
are
starting
on
page
28,
so
if
everybody's
using
that
one,
it
would
probably
be
easier
right
now,
because
I
just
noticed
that
the
one
I
printed
this
morning
doesn't
have
the
page
break
option
in
it.
So
it's
about
four
pages
off
from
your
existing
report
that
I
gave
back
a
few
weeks
ago.
It.
E
A
All
right
so
page,
29.,
okay,
we've
got
this
similar
thing
here,
what's
being
done
at
boat
launches
or
the
cost
of
what's
proposed
to
be
done
and
contracted
Services.
When
are
those
contracted
Services
up
for
negotiation
again
with
the
two-year.
G
I
believe
that
we'd
have
to
go
back
out
in
2024.
yeah.
A
So,
just
just
to
tell
the
new
people
we
contract
grass
cutting
and
we
contract
garbage
from
the
facility
sites,
and
we
do
a
two-year
contract.
Usually
so
I
will
ask
for
a
new
contract
to
come
2024..
A
A
G
I
believe
and
hope
that
it's
broken
up
to
separate
the
rink
from
the
hall
I,
that
service
the
hydro
service,
that
Services
the
rank
it
used
to
be
overhead
and
it
was
sagging
down
and-
and
we
decided
to
put
that
underground
and
keep
it
as
a
separate
service
rather
than
come
through
the
hall.
So
that's
why
you
see
two
bills:
there:
okay,.
H
To
two
different
lines
for
Arden
rank.
A
A
C
A
A
Ballpark
Queen
Street:
this
is
Kennebec
still
a
beach
in
Arden.
A
There
was
last
year
it
budgeted
twenty
thousand
for
miscellaneous.
That
probably
was
to
prepare
the
rink
or
to
do
some
rank
work,
probably
the
whole.
Oh.
A
A
It
says:
there's
the
rink:
it's
750
same
as
that
other
number,
so
it's
broken
out.
Okay,
Kennebec
outside
contracts,
19050.
G
A
G
I
A
D
A
A
A
A
Michael,
do
you
do
you
know
why
that's
in
there.
E
That,
in
my
mind,
the
object
code
733
should
just
read
materials
and
supplies,
so
that
can
be
any
variety
of
items
that
the
hauler
or
Rec
facility
needs.
I
just
write
a
name
to
look
at
the
how
it's
named
and
I'll
correct
that
the
future
okay.
A
A
So
a
net
of
fourteen
Thousand
Seven,
sixteen
ballpark,
3000
20077.,
pretty
basic
stuff
for
five
thousand
and
seventy
seven
dollars
the
beach
contracts
and
materials
and
supplies
total
expense.
K
F
K
E
H
A
C
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
America.
Through
your
would
cleaning
at
the
old
or
the
income
broke.
Rock
should
also
be
included
in
those
contracts,
because
they're
normally
done
by
the
area.
I
A
Okay,
chronic
Dock
and
Beach
500.
That's
probably
just
picking
up
garbage
there's
a
lot
of
it,
and
next
is
oh,
so
Rec
inside
contracts
is
29.2
outside
contracts,
43
370.
F
Through
mattamere
in
regards
to
the
inside
contracts,
Oso
Hall
is,
is
rented
a
lot
more
than
than
the
other
calls
are
Arden's
up
there
as
well,
but
We've
also
got
the
municipal
office.
They
clean
there
twice
a
week
and
the
barber
shop
as
well.
F
Does
it
the
the
29
200
inside,
let's
see
the
inside
is
what
I'm
speaking
to
but.
E
So
I
do
have
a
note
on
there
in
here
that
we're
moving
16
000
to
the
office,
from
whatever
reason
it
wasn't
set
up
before
to
distinguish
all
any
facility
in
the
oso
area
was
always
put
to
the
rec
general
for
cleaning
inside
and
out.
We
just
set
up
the
corporate
services
for
the
main
office
Center,
putting
that
there,
because
it
is
a
significant
amount
of
money,
because.
A
E
A
A
F
That's
correct:
it's
not
broken
down
by
by
building
so.
A
F
We
we
could
do
that
in
the
future.
We
can
get
it
broke
down,
so
it's
easier
to
to
see
what
we're
paying
for.
A
C
C
L
G
To
your
marriage,
counselor
Middleton,
I
I'm,
still
using
a
grandfathered
tender
from
previous
years,
and
we've
been
getting
really
great
pricing
that
way
it
is
itemized
in
my
tender
with
the
location
and
I
can
I
can
take
a
risk
and
break
it
down
and
have
them
price
each
one
individually
and
then
and
then
submit
the
same
tender
I.
Don't
think
it
would
impact
the
bottom
line.
I,
don't
think
it
would
impact
the
lump
sum
price,
but
because
they
have
to
break
it
down
to
estimate
it
anyways.
I
B
A
M
Thanks
around
here,
the
grass
cutters
that
look
after
the
beaches
also
Tyson-
that's
correct
so
near
the
end
of
the
summer.
If
they
don't
cut
the
grass
for
three
weeks
and
the
beaches
don't
get
cleaned
up
for
three
weeks.
H
M
G
Yeah,
the
tenders,
the
tender
is
broken
down
into
time
frames.
So
in
your
in
your
early
summer
season
it's
weekly
and
I.
Don't
know
the
exact
dates
off
top
of
my
head,
but
then
it
switches
to
daily
Beach
cleaning
and
then
once
you
get
outside
of
that
tourism
season,
we
try
to
save
a
little
money
by
going
into
the
fall
with
back
to
weekly
cleaning.
G
If
there's
requests
that
we
can
make
modifications
that
tender
if
needed,
but
I
haven't
had
too
many
inquiries
about
that.
We
also
we
keep
a
little
bit
of
extra
wiggle
room
inside
those
accounts,
for
when
we
can
we've
got
agreements
with
the
contractors
to
say
hey.
We
need
an
extra
feature
breaking
this
week.
Can
you
please
give
me
a
quick
price?
We
approve
the
price.
Let's
say
it's
a
hundred
dollars.
G
Yes,
go
ahead,
get
a
purchase
order
and
we've
got
some
room
inside
those
for
that,
for
example,
when
right
now
we
don't
have
account
for
the
pickleball
Landscaping,
but
we
were
able
to
find
a
room
in
just
the
Charlotte
Lake
wreck
to
go
up
and
do
a
little
grass
trimming
at
the
pickleball
court
stuff.
Like
that,
so
right
now,
it
seems
like
the
tenders
are
working
out
pretty
good
with
those
dates,
but
with
a
little
wiggle
room
to
add
the
a
little
bit
of
extra
work
here
and
there
as
needed.
G
Definitely
yeah
there's
It's
weekly,
no
there's
daily
in
Charlotte
Lake,
I,
I'm,
pretty
confident,
daily
Beach
rating
and
Beach
cleaning
and
in
the
tourism
season
the
whole
summer.
Pretty
much
because.
A
A
Glasses
sticker
one
page
35.,
we
are
still
at
maternity
or
we're
at
the
at
the
barbershop
here
so
looks
like
just
standards
costs,
8390,
total
Oso
facilities,
116
384.,
swim
program.
We
had
last
year
right,
no.
B
B
No,
we
pay,
we
pay
Red
Cross,
we
pay
for
those
those
supplies.
A
A
One
of
the
things
we
usually
donate
to
is
the
Parham
Fair.
They
usually
ask.
B
B
E
G
So
now
that
I
know
that
there
was
no
heading
for
that
on
my
sheet
either,
but
now
that
I
know
that
the
trails
committee
asked
to
for
the
municipality
I
believe
we
asked
them
counts.
I
came
through
Council
already
in
2022,
but
they
asked
to
set
money
aside
to
help
with
brushing
and
possible
grading
of
the
trails.
I
didn't
commit.
Public
Works
didn't
commit
to
putting
an
actual
physical
Central
front,
Township
equipment
on
the
trail
with
a
Township
worker.
G
So
that's
we
asked
Council
to
donate
some
money
to
be
able
to
help
out
with
their
contracted
Services,
because
I
didn't
think
it
would
be
a
very
good
image
for
us
to
be
on
the
trail,
brushing
and
doing
grading
when
we're
trying
to
keep
up
with
the
roads.
So
that's
money
from
us
to
them
to
help
with
brushing
and
Trail
maintenance.
Okay,.
A
That's
what
all
the
xxx's
were
there
hey
all
right.
Next
is
Central
front
Network,
which
is
getting
in
speed
under
it
and
Parks
and
Recreation
reserved
for
Capital.
If.
E
E
K
K
E
B
A
A
E
The
amount
of
Mayor
those
are
all
the
donations,
the
North
and
Rural
youth
program,
the
Santa
Claus
Parade,
Parham,
fair
I'm,
just
going
to
see
the
other
ones
that
we
have
in
there
and
we
have
eota.
So
the
trails
Association
for
10
000
Canada
day,
four
thousand,
the
railway
Heritage
Society
for
one
thousand
and
we
I
have
landed
Lakes
traditional
music
hall
of
fame
and
iof
tax
rebate
that
we've
given
in
the
past.
That
doesn't
mean
we
have
to
do
it,
but
the
donation
policy
I
think,
is
in
the
works.
E
I
will
get
back
to
you,
it'll
just
take
longer
than
I'm
sure
Council
wants
to
wait
for
me
right
now.
E
E
B
B
E
We're
at
37
to
the
28,
so
9
000,
the
iof
tax
rebate.
Was
it
wasn't
given
out
last
year
the
railway
Heritage
society
that
check
hasn't
been
written
yet
Canada,
Day
Trail
day
I,
don't
believe
occurred
6000
there
and
I'd
have
to
look
for
the
other
stuff
that
wasn't
given
out.
But
there's
approximate.
N
E
So
yeah,
so
four
thousand
dollars
of
that
is
the
perfect
buying
software
to
get
these
points,
and
there
is
a
500
buffer
because
the
price
that
they
gave
me
was
last
year
and
we
haven't
actually
started
paying
them
a
monthly
fee.
Yet
if
we
haven't
finished
so
I
just
add
a
little
tiny
bit
in
there,
so
that
should
be
at
44.60,
ten
thousand,
which
fine
was
that
sorry.
F
A
Okay,
all
right
capital
projects,
facilities,
Eagle,
Lake
street
light
at
the
beach
ten
thousand
accessible
door
at
Piccadilly,
Hall
17..
We.
K
G
G
Okay,
well
re-estimate
that
project
for
to
include
two
street
lights.
A
A
A
N
I
want
to
address
that
and
the
fairground
fencing
I
spoke
to
the
rec
committee
on
Friday
night
and
they're.
Not
they
don't
know
if
the
30
000
for
the
portable
bleacher
is
necessary
this
year.
If
we're
looking
at
saving
money,
they
think
that
we
could
get
by
again.
The
grandstands
were
just
fixed
last
year,
and
so
they
don't
know
if
they
don't
feel
that
it's
necessary
this
year.
If
it's
something
but
Council
wants
to
cut
and
the
fairground
fencing,
they
are
going
to
do
a
b.
N
If
we
Supply
the
would
like
they're
saying
just
Cedar
rails
or
something
they'll
put
up
a
cedar
rail
fence
along
wagerville
Road,
no
problem,
you
won't
have
to
pay
for
labor
and
they'd
like
to
keep
the
fence
at
the
playground
and
they're
just
going
to
fix
it
themselves.
Okay,
so
that'll
be
coming
off
their
list.
Well,.
A
And
I
think
Phillip
mentioned
that
there
is
an
old
agreement
between
the
fairground
and
the
township
and
I
think
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
it
and
see
what
it
says
about
who's
responsible.
For
what
and
I
know
the
fair
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
money,
but
for
us
to
pick
up
thirty
thousand
dollars
for
something
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
what
the
arrangements
are
and
maybe
even
have
to
renegotiate
those.
But
it
is
the
only
fair
in
front
in
that
county.
G
G
G
The
I
just
I,
agree
and
I
just
want
to
not
forget
about
this
one.
Since
those
wooden
the
wooden
structure,
is
it's
reaching
the
end
of
its
lifespan,.
H
A
G
Yeah
I
think
the
three
of
Madame
Merida
counselor,
makes
the
idea
of
a
portable
set
of
aluminum
bleachers
to
replace
that
wooden
structure
is
a
little
more
maintenance
free
and
they
can
also
the
idea
when
initially
talked
about
what
the
right
committee
was.
They
could
be
shipped
to
other
facilities
for
big
events.
They
could
be
brought
up
to
Chevrolet,
Garden
or
Mountain
Grove
for
big
ball
tournaments
and
concerts
and
stuff,
like
that.
Like.
G
E
A
All
right
so
I'm
not
going
to
give
you
a
new
Total
because
I'm
not
going
to
add
it
up
now
we're
going
to
Canada
facilities
and
we've
got
the
ball
field
at
10.
000.
got
the
rink
at
20,
000.
F
We
just
received
the
final
invoice
last
week,
okay,
so
it
is
finished
now
so.
G
How's
the
request
from
the
rack
committee:
the
requests
from
the
rec
committee
ranged
anywhere
from
twenty
thousand
dollars
to
eighty
thousand
dollars
for
Shaq
improvements.
We
staff
well.
G
We
obviously
presented
this
based
on
the
request
from
the
rec
committee,
but
the
recommend
the
staff
feel
that
that
should
be
really
looked
at,
because
the
structure
is
in
such
bad
condition
that
we're
not
sure,
if
definitely
wouldn't,
want
to
spend
20
000
on
that
check,
but
trying
to
figure
we're
trying
to
figure
out
some
kind
of
an
in-between
model
that
helps
safely
Band-Aid.
That
we've
had
some
interest
from
direct
committee
and
volunteering,
some
like
Carpenter
services
and
stuff
to
help
fix
it
up
and
us
paying
for
materials.
A
G
That's
at
a
department
head
staff
meeting,
it
was
discussed
to
re-look
at
it
with
direct
committee
and
if
it's
supported
by
Council
to
just
see
how
that
10
or
20
000
could
be
spent
the
most
efficiently,
I
guess
I'll,
say
yeah.
E
G
Something
and
and
sorry
thank
you,
Michael
a
little
tiny
bit
more
background.
Just
yeah
I
know
we
talked
about
it
during
the
capital
presentation,
but
that
was
supposed
to
be
incorporated
with
the
grant
that
we
received
to
do
all
those
upgrades,
but
with
inflation
and
everything
and
the
fuel
price
we
could
only
do
the
rank
for
that
price.
We
never
couldn't
spend
that
money
on
the
shack
at
the
time.
So
now
it's
kind
of
playing
catch
up
to
get
that
done
right.
I
Lynn
thanks
Madam,
mayor
and
I
know
the
rec
committee
themselves
are
looking
at
doing
some
fundraising
to
try
and
come
up
with
another.
You
know
20
000
ourselves
or
you
know,
like
a
larger
amount,
so
that
we
could
do
some
better
Renovations
and
just
trying
to
find
ways
of
making
the
money
go
further.
Sure.
H
G
The
all
the
recommes
were
really
good
for
submitting
their
requests,
and
in
this,
in
this
specific
request,
there
was
options
presented,
such
as
buying
a
like
a
pre-built
structure
that
we
could
just
drop
in
place
on
a
new
pad.
We've
already
got
Hydro
there,
so
definitely
I
think
everybody
agrees.
We
need
to
do
something
with
just
with
the
timing,
we're
just
trying
to
figure
out.
What's
what's
the
best
way
to
do
it.
A
A
F
F
Excavation
to
do
the
overhead
service
to
move
okay,
there's
some
walls
to
build
inside.
So
it's
it
is
a
substantial
job.
M
We
talked
about
the
money
that
was
put
away,
the
22
000.
E
A
Okay,
all
right
so
38
000
is
the
total
there
and
now
also
facilities,
fifteen
thousand
for
the
Charlotte
Lake
washroom
building,
and
we
talked
about
that.
That
was
to
bring
in
water.
G
Mayor
the
15
000
was
the
design
and
Engineering
Services
and
the
planning
planning
phase
of
the
future
washroom
building
right.
There's
a
separate
account
in
there
for
drilling
a
well,
which
that,
just
to
refresh
your
memory,
is
being
looked
at
for
to
possibly
service
that
bathroom
from
the
medical
center.
The
treated
water,
which
is
a
great
idea,
brought
To
Us
by
Council
and
we're
keeping
that
budget
the
same
for
now,
because
the
cost
could
be
virtually
the
same.
So
there
we
hope
for
savings,
but
we're
not
sure.
A
All
right,
Bandshell,
with
30
000,
for
the
floor
in
the
roof.
What
did
we
do
with
that?
I?
Don't
remember,
did
we
leave
it
in?
Take
it
out
left
it
in.
A
G
I
from
my
notes,
it
was
Michael's,
got
the
exact
numbers
but
training
twelve
hundred
dollars,
pickleball
3600
Landscaping,
three
thousand
dollars,
that's
something
to
do
with
pickleball
area
and
there's
some
kind
of
request
for
eighty
thousand
dollars
for
pickleball
courts.
G
You
have
to
get
exact
numbers
from
Michael,
but
that's
what
we
discussed
at
the
start
is
some
of
the
requests
from
directly
from
Rec
committees.
They're
not
entered
in
here.
They
have
to
be
discussed
today
to
be
added
to
this
right.
L
H
G
Them
right
now,
if
you'd
like
Michael,
to
take
us
through
the
exact
numbers.
B
It
was
all
the
rec
committees
that
had
submitted.
We
did
go
through
them
this
morning
at
our
managers
meeting
and
we
did
not
put
any
of
those
numbers
in
here
yet
until
they're
brought
up
so
that
Council
have
the
discussion.
The
21
000
that
they
were
talking
about
was
the
small
items.
There's
bigger
items.
There
was
the
six
thousand
dollars
for
the
I.
Think
for
the
fryer
was
taken
out
because
we
got
an
email
that
Leslie
said
to
take
that
out.
Was
it
not
so
that's
out
of
there,
but
there
is
the
80
000.
B
There
were
some
of
those
other
things,
but
Michael
has
the
list
from
his
email,
yeah.
C
A
E
I
E
Twelve
hundred
and
five
dollars
for
training
for
safe
handlers
courses,
3600
for
a
porta
potty,
three
thousand
for
landscaping
and
eighty
thousand
for
a
portion
of
the
enhancement
of
the
pickleball
court.
That's
specifically
for
Oso
Rec.
So
each
wreck
has
a
list
here
of
emails
that
we
went
through
this
morning.
So.
N
E
Absolutely
it
it
was
a
little
last
minute
doing
this,
so
we
didn't
do
a
summary
less,
but
we
just
did
the
summary
dollars
so
of
the
seven
thousand
dollars
it's
the
training
for
Oso
Rec,
the
porta
potty
and
the
landscaping
that's
in
there
for
Olden
wrecked,
there's
paint
for
the
bathroom
there's
some
new
picnic
tables
and
there
was
leveling
of
a
shed
storage
building.
E
Kennebec
was
basketball,
hoops
for
the
ice
pad
new
hockey
nets
and
there's
a
net
for
the
nice
pad.
There's
no
dollar
amount
there
pickleball
net
and
paint.
E
Is
that
one
and
for
hinchenberg
we
estimate
seven
thousand
dollars
for
the
different
things
that
were
in
here
again
that
was
kind
of
off
the
on
the
fly.
But
what
was
listed
here
was
septic
tank,
Lids
repairs
on
bleachers
seating,
around
the
canteen,
lowered
basketball
fence,
recycling
bins
and
that's
approximately
estimate
of
seven
thousand
for
those
different
things.
G
B
And
that's
so
what
will
happen
is
that
Council
will
have
to
make
the
decision
those
if
we
feel
that
they're
appropriate,
then
we
can
put
them
in
the
budget
and
it's
up
like
a
0.2.
So
you'd
go
up
from
two
point:
wasn't
it
2.7
Michael
to
2.9?
If
we
add
that
twenty
one
thousand
dollars
of
those
items
he
mentioned,
so
that's
going
to
be
up
to
council
to
make
that
decision.
Well,.
A
B
E
If
I
may
not
America,
you
mentioned
the
pickleball
courts,
80
000,
their
weather
were
other
bigger
requests
from
the
different
communities
that
just
we
didn't
put
in
I,
think
that
will
form
part
of
what
goes
on
this
year
of
the
rec
committee
Gathering
and
getting
a
bigger
picture
of
everything
and
and
what
needs
to
be
done.
But
ultimately
we
felt
there
wasn't
really
any
money
in
the
budget
to
move
the
canteen
for
twelve
thousand
dollars,
which
we
think
might
have
been
a
light
estimate.
There
was
50
that
was
kind
of
a
story.
E
Olden
there
was
a
50
000
estimate
for
new
boards
for
the
olden
ring
poor
cement
pad
and
whatnot,
which
we
thought
was
kind
of
light
as
well.
Also
rink
had
the
or
also
Rec
story
had
the
pickleball
and
I.
Don't
think
there
was
any
bigger
items
on
the
hinge,
but
so
there
were
other
bigger
requests
that
came
in,
but
21
000
was
what
we
felt.
We
could
do
to
improve
things
a
little
bit
at
this
point
until
we
have
a
clearer
direction
of
where
we're
going
as
a
whole.
A
Yeah,
because
typically
the
Rex
committee
will
say
well,
we
gave
you
the
budget,
but
we
didn't
hear
anything
more
about
it
and
I.
Think
it's
great
that
staff
goes
through
it
and
goes
well
that
you
know
this
is
estimated
30,
but
it's
probably
going
to
be
70..
That's
all
great,
but
I
think
we
should
have
a
copy
of
that
so
that
we
in
fact
can
say
to
the
rec
committees.
Yes,
we
have
seen
your
requests,
and
this
is
the
only
part
that
we
could
approve.
L
L
A
And
just
to
add
to
that
we're
we're
hoping
to
change
what
the
central
Frontenac
Rec
committee
does,
and
that
is
to
bring
the
four
Rec
committees
together
and
to
work
out
together
what
they
need
to
function
in
the
coming
year,
so
that
they
will
know
what
each
other
is
asking,
and
maybe
they
can
say.
Well,
you
know
if
you
get
that
this
year,
then
next
year,
I'll
ask
for
this:
do
some
coordinating
of
those
four
so
that
they
can
get
done.
G
Not
sure
if
Michael
said
it,
but
we
I
agree
with
Council
that
we're
going
to
get
you
a
list
of
all
the
stuff
that
was
approved
and
not
approved.
That's
I
think
the
it's
a
it's
a
requirement
for
the
direct
committee
to
have
that.
It's
just
what
what
you
see
on
here.
You
know:
I've
got
a
page
of
requests.
Some
of
them
are
a
couple
hundred
dollars
each.
G
It
would
double
the
size
of
this
package
if
we
put
every
single
line
item
in
there
as
a
they're,
not
capital
projects,
they're
little
operating
projects
that
we
can
do
in
an
operating
budget.
So
but
I
agree
with
councilor
Middleton
that
we
can
provide
that.
C
A
Guess
yeah:
oh
the
central
front,
neck
wreck
where
we
met
Kathy
and
I
met
with
the
chair
and
the
co-chair,
which
is
Bill
and
Phillip
to
start
doing
the
terms
of
reference
and
to
get
some
instructions
and
to
get
a
bylaw
formally
put
together
as
to
how
it
can
work.
Okay,
so
that
it's
coming,
it's
a
work
in
progress.
A
K
L
What
is
the
sorry,
madam,
through
you,
madam
mayor,
the
custom
steel
garbage
boxes.
G
I
was
just
going
to
bring
that
up.
Madame
mayor
that
got
duplicate.
We
removed
that
from
it
got
duplicated
in
the
public
works
in
the
facilities
budget.
It
was
to
get
rid
of
the
plastic
garbage
bins
that
the
contractor
stockpile
garbage
in
before
pickup
and
there
they
just
did
disintegrated
every
year.
It
was
to
replace
those,
but
with
the
contract
coming
up
at
the
end
of
2023,
we
decided
to
remove
that
from
the
budget,
so
that
can
come
out
as
well.
G
C
C
K
A
G
C
E
A
A
A
Not
that
Rhodes
isn't
Tyson
all
right,
so
I'll
just
go
over
them
and
if
you
have
questions
just
jump
in
so
Public,
Works
Revenue,
so
there's
aggregate
license
and
permits
Insurance
Recovery,
Insurance
Recovery
guard
rails,
which
you
can
see,
was
empty
before
so
a
total
revenue
to
roads,
about
58,
500.,
now
Public,
Works
expenses,
we'll
start
with
Rhodes
General
salaries,
full-time
336,
814.,
and
that
CPP
omer's
health
benefits
all
of
those
mandatory
items.
Underneath
advertising
and
promotions
2500,
that's
for
when
we
don't
use
our
website
and
other
memes.
A
G
Matamara
is
actually
just
speaking
with
Michael
about
that
on
on
the
break
and
there's
there
was
a
couple
things
charged
there
in
the
wrong
place
last
year,
but
we
have
that
as
a
general
account
for
if
we
need
just
any
contractor
repairs
or
anything
at
any
facilities,
really
like
mostly
our
our
office,
but
there's
it's
kind
of
an
oddball
account
to
catch
some
of
the
some
of
the
more
unique
repairs
that
we
need
to
call
Specialists
tend
to
do
so
it's
we
did
take
note
that
it
was
over
budgeted
for
last
year
and
dropped
it
from
4500
to
2000.
G
and
if
and
if
Council
needs
to
know
of
any
of
the
things
that
were
charged,
I'm
sure
Michael
could
help
us
out
there.
E
E
A
G
We've,
pretty
we've
pretty
much
put
a
stop
to
all
those
magazines
that
used
to
come
with
various
names
on
them
from
the
past,
but
we
one
of
the
higher
expenses
there
is
the
Weather
Network
we
subscribe
to
to
get
the
to
stay
legal
within
minimum
native
standards.
We
need
to
pay
to
have
weather
sent
to
us
a
certain
amount
of
times
per
day
to
have
record
for
lawsuits
and
stuff,
like
that.
G
I
G
Three
mad
America
councilor
Middleton.
We
got
lucky
with
having
any
computer
failures
or
anything
the
compute.
It's
not
only
just
myself
and
Noah
and
Steve's
computers,
there's
also
a
handful
of
iPads.
We
use
for
sign
inventories,
route
Patrol
and
we're
now
we're
starting
to
get
into
exploring
into
plow
Patrol,
eliminating
paper
Patrol
sheets
and
starting
to
implement
iPads
for
trucks.
For
we're.
Trying
that
out
this
year
with
being
able
to
just
have
an
iPad
in
your
truck
to
do
plow
Patrol
rather
than
paper.
K
G
E
G
Plow
training
every
time
we've
got
a
new
operator.
We've
got
lots
of
new
operators
this
last
couple
years,
but
the
plow
training
and
different
training
for
like
specialized
training
for
traffic
control
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
It
adds
up.
We
had
a
slow
couple
years
with
covid
and
hoping
eventually
to
reduce
that
budget,
because
more
training
is
becoming
virtual,
but
right
I
believe
that
each
time
you
send
a
plow
operator
for
plow
training
and
and
that
needs
to
be
renewed
as
well.
G
It's
not
just
new
operators
but
I
believe
each
one
of
those
is
twelve
hundred
dollars
so
to
have
all
that
public
work
staff
getting
refreshed
on
that
constantly
we
it's
training
is
something
in
the
last
couple
years
that
we've
needed
Improvement
on
and
we
were
dedicated
this
year
to
getting
everybody
trained
properly.
Good.
A
Good
good,
okay,
pits
and
quarries
ten
thousand
engineering.
Fifteen
thousand
yes,.
N
G
America
to
councilor
Gowdy,
there's
before
my
time
before
my
time
here
there
was
we
had
some
pretty
expensive
Consulting
fees,
I
believe
it
was
for
our
pit
inspections.
I,
currently
work
with
a
company
that
we
we
do
a
little
more
leg,
work
on
our
end,
to
give
them
more
sporting
data
for
them
to
do
the
inspections
and
reporting
to
keep
us
legal
and
it's
it's.
We've
been
able
to
reduce
the
cost.
G
Now,
there's
certain
years
where,
if
we're
planning
to
mine
sand
or
gravel,
then
sometimes
you
need
a
higher
budget
to
be
able
to
strip
more
land
and
cut
more
trees,
to
be
able
to
mine
our
own
sand
and
gravel.
But
there's
not
there's
no
plans
for
that
this
season,
so
the
ten
thousand
dollars
will
just
be
for
for
mostly
just
reporting
and
making
sure
that
we're
staying
within
our
regulations.
Yes,.
A
Okay
and
self-containment
30
000.,
18
000
GPO,
sorry
go
back
Phillip
on.
K
E
A
Okay
and
GPS
is
18,
000.
health
and
safety,
six
thousand
safety
boots,
88
100
fuels
and
Loops
four
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
we
spent
453
000
last
year,
wow
vehicle
license
thirty,
four
thousand
for
a
grand
total
of
one
million
two
hundred
thirty
five
thousand
two
hundred
thirty
dollars,
Lynn.
I
Thanks
Madam
mayor,
how
is
it
that
we
were
proposing
to
spend
less
on
fuel
this
year
than
we
actually
did
last
year?.
E
Through
Mountain
there
sorry
to
counselor,
clegus
I
think
it's
really
comes
down
to
I'd,
probably
love
to
increase
it
50
75
000,
but
there's
another
one
percent
of
the
tax
rate,
so
I'm,
hoping
that
the
prices
will
go
down.
We
might
still
be
in.
We
were
asked
a
similar
question
last
year
by
another
counselor
and
they
were
right.
We
should
have
increased
the
budget
at
that
point
that
impacted
the
2022
year.
But
again
we
come
up
to
this
Balancing
Act
of
how
much
do
we
increase
things
so
you're?
Absolutely
right.
E
G
A
tough
account
to
estimate
it's
not
it's
not
just
the
fuel
inflation
prices
that
fluctuates
so
much
with
this
with
our
fuel
usage
fluctuates
with
how
harsh
our
winners
are
and
how
dusty
our
roads
get.
How
many
times
the
roads
need
to
be
created
throughout
the
year.
So
it's
not
just
field
prices,
the
not
just
the
cost
of
fuel
that
fluctuates
so
Michael
and
I
have
a
what
we
think
is
a
reasonable
estimate
and
that's
one
that
could
be
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
more.
M
Just
wondering
under
the
lube
of
vehicle
maintenance
on
the
next
page,
would
that
not
classified
as
legal
maintenance?
The
blue
part
of
the.
G
Three
Mountain
America
councilor
Meeks
when
we
buy
grease
oil
and
stuff
like
that
in
bulk
or
when
we
buy,
we
buy
it
in
bulk,
so
it
doesn't
really
get
itemized
down
to
each
piece
of
equipment.
We
we
buy
Drums
of
motor
oil.
We
buy
Drums
of
coolant
and
stuff
like
that.
So
it's
it's
got
to
be.
It's
got
to
be
tracked
separately,
it's
too
difficult
to
track
it
to
the
vehicle.
A
J
A
just
to
make
you
change
all
your
numbers
all
right,
so
the
total
expenses
are
one
million
235,
230
plus
5000.
Well,
not
even
yeah.
Five,
all
right
road
equipment
maintenance.
Now
we're
not
going
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
these,
because
these
again
are
filler
spots
for
equipment.
You
never
know
just
how
they're
going
to
work
going
forward.
J
A
A
Is
there
any
particular
one
on
this
list
Tyson
on
41.
G
It's
Vladimir
I'm
not
going
to
pretend
and
remember
which,
which
number
is
which
vehicle
I
know.
We've
got
an
older
grader
that
was
scheduled
for
about
thirty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
work.
That
was
our
mechanics.
They
really
looked
at
how
much
time
they're
going
to
have
and
and
they
think
they're
going
to
be
able
to
do
it
in-house.
G
So
the
cost
would
only
be
parts
and
I
believe
we
amped
that
one
up
by
about
10
000
to
cover
that
which
is
a
big
which
is
a
pretty
good
savings,
but
the
the
older
there's
a
craters
are
getting
up
there
and
maintenance
costs
or
who
haven't
been
having
the
best
luck
with
the
electronics
on
the
John
Deere
graders,
which
is
costing
a
lot
every
time
they
have
to
come
and
plug
a
computer
into
it.
It's
a
thousand
dollars.
So
one
of
the
backhoes
has
a
similar
computer
electrical
issue.
G
That's
costing
a
lot
each
year,
but
everything
in
here
is
pretty
standard.
As
you
can
see,
we
we
try
our
best
to
estimate
to
slightly
increase
the
operating
budget
as
the
vehicle
gets
older,
but
we've
also
got
some
trucks
on
there.
That
haven't
needed
much
in
the
last
few
years,
that
are
older
trucks,
so.
G
There
wasn't
we've
been
making
improvements
to
the
public
works
budget
by
adding,
like
the
smaller
items
like
hot
boxes
and
Steamers
and
compressors,
because
there
wasn't
you,
we
are
either
overrunning
our
general
budgets
or
or
putting
them
where
they
shouldn't
go.
So
that's
been,
you
can
see
that
that's
been
improved
this
year.
C
A
K
K
So,
with
all
the
salaries
can
we
ask
Michael
to
perhaps
give
us
an
entire
total
of
what
the
salaries
were
for
2022
compared
to
what
is
going
to
be
in
2023,
because
I
know
the
last
meeting
we
had.
We
talked
about
we've
juggled
portions
of
staff,
salaries
here
and
there
and
everywhere.
So
it's
hard
to
tell.
Are
we
really
increasing
salaries
or
have
we
just
move
them
all
around?
So.
E
Throughout
mayor
councilor,
Smith
I
actually
just
brought
up
the
reported
anticipation
of
going
there,
so
the
salaries
on
that
one
presentation
is
424
000
more
than
last
year.
That
includes
this
cost
of
living.
The
EI
CPP
wsab,
all
those
increases
omers
which
we're
now
required
to
offer
to
part-time
employees,
which
was
only
full-time
before
and
half
of
two
positions
for
the
year.
D
N
Nikki
so
Michael,
can
you
explain,
then
why
if
you
go
and
you
search
it
says
that
you
should
only
be
increasing
your
salaries
by
4.2
percent
for
2023,
with
increases,
so
I
could
live
with
a
10
or
15
percent
difference
in
salaries,
but
424
000
seems
like
a
huge
number.
So.
E
So
it
is
from
America
councilman
County,
it
is
11
I,
don't
know
where
it
says:
4.25
I'm,
putting
in
again
the
cost
of
living
the
3.25
the
council
approved,
putting
in
all
the
benefit
numbers
as
they
come
in
and
I
could
go
by
each
one.
I
could
think
W
said
B
might
have
been
twenty
or
thirty
thousand
dollars.
E
N
E
A
Okay,
all
right
any
other
questions.
Where
did
we
leave
off?
We
were
at
Communications
two
thousand
dollars
materials
and
supplies.
Forty
thousand
so
43
we're
still
on
43.,
yes,
okay,
so
total
garage,
Road
38
is
833
347.
G
B
G
Or
something
I
just
wanted
to
mention
before
we
continue
on
it,
shouldn't
we're
hoping
it
doesn't
impact
the
budget
much,
but
we're
looking
to
get
rid
of
the
landlines
in
the
shops,
at
least
starting
with
the
ancient
Brook
shop,
and
we've
got
an
estimate
to
put
in
a
Cell
booster.
Currently,
you
can't
make
a
cell
phone
call
unless
you're
either
right
up
against
the
window
or
outside
which
I
think
for
our
mechanics
and
our
even
our
public
work
staff
work
on
their
own
trucks
too.
G
I
think
it's
such
a
big
shop
to
be
able
to
make
a
call
from
the
shop
or
from
the
other
end
of
the
shop,
but
that,
hopefully
we're
going
to
leave
it
in
there
to
see
for
the
first
year,
the
actual
cost,
but
hopefully
that's
actually
offset
by
the
savings
from
getting
canceling
our
landline.
So.
A
Okay,
so
Olden
Park,
Road
salaries
and
cppei,
and
all
of
those
good
things
and
I'm
out
for
telephone
and
fax
materials
and
supplies.
Ten
thousand
and
heat
and
hydro
and
the
tools
total
expense
834084.,
pretty
close
to
the
garage
before
Craig.
L
Threw
him
out
of
Mayor
back
to
what
Nikki
was
asking
about
before?
Were
salaries
Road
38's
up
15.2
percent
in
the
budget,
the
gardens
only
up
4.9
percent?
Did
everybody
get
that
should
be
equal
shouldn't
that
if
everybody
eats
the
same
amount
of
money
and
got
the
same,
pay
increase
and
Omar's
got
the
same.
G
Yeah,
but
it
should
still
be
the
amount
of
Mayor
to
councilor
Middleton.
Well,
I'll
have
Michael's
help
on
this,
but
out
of
that,
I
believe
the
patrolmen
are
actually
out
of
that
shop
as
well,
so
I
think
I
believe
there's
more
salaries
in
the
there's
more
salaries
in
the
pinching
Brook
area.
H
L
Well,
it
shouldn't,
or
maybe
I'd
be
wrong.
If
you
have
a
hundred
employees
or
you
have
10
the
percentage
increase,
if
should
be
the
same,
the
percentage
not
the
dollar
amount
would
be
different.
Obviously,
if
you
have
more
employees,
but
if
everybody
in
the
township
with
omers
and
everything
got
11
overall
total
package
increase
in
every
one
of
those
lines,
that
percentage
should
be
the
same
shouldn't
it
Phil's
going
to
tell
me
why
not.
J
H
G
Good
question:
unless
Michael
has
any
other
suggestions
here,
I'm
wondering,
if
maybe
that's
because
of
our
employee,
that's
on
long-term
disability
and
we
didn't
fill
out
position
for
quite
some
time.
I
think
we'll
have
to
look
into
that
closer
and
get
back
to
you
unless
Michael's
got
anything
right
now.
L
Well,
that's
that
the
percentage
goes
up
on
wages
that
should
be
a
standard
percentage,
and
then
your
budget
number
should
go
be
higher
or
lower,
depending
on
the
amount
of
employees
is
based
out
of
each
garage,
the
more
the
employees.
Of
course
you
have
to
budget
more
money,
but
the
percentage
from
last
year
should
be
equal
or
pretty
close,
because
you
might
have
a
few
part-timers
that
don't
take
the
homers
or
do
take.
The
owners
understand
that,
but
right.
E
G
Okay,
yeah
definitely
for
the
for
the
majority
of
2022.
We
had
a
part-time
employee
filling
in
for
someone
on
LTD,
so
that's
definitely
going
to
infect
it
and
that
that
went
into
2021
as
well,
but
that
that
part-time
employee
wasn't
hired
right
away.
So
there's
there's
definitely
a
bit
of
a
gap
there.
So
hopefully
we
can
get
back
to
you.
The
more
precise
answer
on
that.
G
That's
correct:
that's
large
and
the
patrolmen,
the
patrolmen
used
that
garage
to
kind
of
work
out
and
start
and
finish
their
shifts.
Sometimes,
okay,.
A
All
right
next
is
Bridges
and
culverts,
and
we
have
that
list
of
a
hundred
and
five
thousand
dollars.
These
are
all
things
that
need
to
be
done
on
our
bridges.
Last
year
we
spent
184
000.
N
G
Three
amount
of
Merit
counselor
Gowdy
flood
control
is
typically
just
used
for
to
pay
the
Trappers
Association
for
maintaining
for
to
prevent
flooding.
Unfortunately,
in
2022
Michael,
can
you
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I'm
I
think
that's
due
to
pretty
bad
washout
that
we
had
that
we
had
to
charge
to
somewhere.
A
K
E
I
J
H
G
L
Yeah
man
Martha
you
Tyson
wine
painting
for
sixty
thousand
and
whoops
right.
That's
the
wrong.
One.
I
was
looking
at
the
hot
mix
for
75
000.
Last
year
we
spent
35
for
36..
Is
there
increase
to.
G
The
program
or
that
this
year,
so
you
Madame
mayor
to
councilor
Middleton,
there's
had
to
increase
the
operating
budget.
After
all,
the
capital
projects
were
removed
from
the
from
this
budget.
G
H
A
All
right,
loose
top
maintenance,
we've
got
greater
blades
in
there
gravel
528
740
dollars.
We
still
have
lots
of
gravel
roads.
45.
you
better.
G
Cool,
do
you
matter
mayor
to
counselor,
Gowdy
I'm
gonna
need
Michael's
help
on
this
one,
because
to
this
day,
I
still
get
a
little
confused
when
it
comes
to
where,
where
we
charge
the
blades.
All
of
our
some
of
these
are
greater
blades
and
stuff
like
that,
but
we
order
them
at
the
same
time,
sometimes
as
winter
blades
for
the
plows
to
save
on
shipping.
So
I'm
gonna
need
Michael's
help
with
the
charges
for
loose
top
maintenance
and
there's
also
some
other
items
that
get
stuck
in
there
as
well.
G
In
the
past,
I
believe
contracted
grading
had
possibly
been
put
there,
but
I
haven't
hired
any
graders.
We've
been
able
to
do
it
in-house
since
I've
been
here,
but
I'll
have
to
get
Michael
to
give
us
a
give
us
a
better
description
of
what
that
one
is.
E
So
remember
to
your
point
earlier
about
having
so
many
different
accounts
to
code,
things
to
sometimes
can
get
difficult,
Steve,
gold
and
I
sat
down
and
we
did
merge
the
loose
top
maintenance
blades
in
with
the
winter
blades,
since
it's
95
I
think
of
what
we
end
up
spending
and
then
we
increase
it
to
what
they
thought.
The
cost
is
going
to
be
this
year
for
the
blade.
So
it
is
all
under
I
believe
0621.
G
Okay:
okay,
here
we
go
sorry
I
just
got
a
million
notes
here.
So
that
is
that
that
is
an
another
budget
where
one
of
the
things
we
charged
there
is
when
we
do
the
gravel
contract
we
also
have
to,
as
discussed
in
the
capital
budget,
for
our
request
to
purchase
a
Packer.
We
also
have
to
rent
the
Packer
inside
of
that
budget
as
well.
G
N
E
L
Through
your
gravel
Tysons
went
up
almost
200
Grand.
Are
you
predicting
to
order
more
gravel
or
is
that
just
the
prediction
of
a
price
increase
is
worth
the
fuel
and
everything.
G
G
Each
year
we
did
have
our
gravel
budget
passed
requested
to
be
reduced
last
year,
so
that
unfortunately,
doesn't
push
the
roads
away
for
good,
but
so
there's
more
kilometers
of
roads
and-
and
this
is
only
an
in-house
estimate-
obviously
we
haven't
gone
out
for
pricing
yet,
but
we're
estimating
a
pretty
high
increase
in
the
cost
of
gravel
per
ton.
G
Just
full
transparency,
I've
gone
from
12
to
I
believe
19
for
estimating
dollars
per
ton
for
the
for
the
2023
season,
so
roads
that
roads
that
I've
got
in
my
list
this
year
that
were
estimated
by
the
area.
Foremans
and
supervisor
are
in
the
South
End
of
the
township,
our
plow
Road
White
Lake
Godfrey
Road
Craig,
Road
hinch
and
Brook
Road
Fox
Road
and
a
2500
ton
stockpile
in
the
North
End
of
the
township
is
Zealand
Road
Elm
Tree,
Road,
Thompson,
Road
and
2500
ton
stockpile.
K
A
K
G
Just
while
Michael's
looking
up
the
numbers,
no,
we
it's
a
really
similar
amount
of
blades
and
everything
that
we're
predicting
I'm,
not
exactly
sure
how
he's
got
it
all
laid
out
in
here,
but
it
is
based
off
actuals
in
previous
years
and
but
steel
hasn't
increased
in
price.
So
there
was
a
small
percentage
added
for
that,
but
it's
nothing
crazy
or
different
from
any
other
year
that
we've
ever
done.
It's
just
we're
just
trying
to
find
the
best
way
to
show
it
in
our
budget
here
and
save
on
shipping.
So.
E
I
A
Winter
operations,
winter
control,
salaries,
costs
contracted
plowing,
250,
000.,
the
next
winter
control
is
Blades
of
120
000
and
then
there's
sand.
288
000
in
Salt
of
378
000
for
a
total
of
1
million
92
849
dollars.
G
Three
Madam
mayor,
councilor,
Gowdy
I'm,
just
going
to
pull
that
up.
So
if
we
use
the
same
tonnages,
average
tonnages
of
34
156
tons.
2022
pricing
was
101
25
per
ton,
2023
we're
already
receiving
bills
for
109.35
per
ton.
So
the
last
year
his
estimate
was
350.
This
year's
estimates
378
and
I
hope
that's
what's
on
our
sheet
here.
Yes,
I!
Think
oh
yeah.
L
G
Through
Madam
married
to
counselor
Middleton
I'm,
just
pulling
up
my
sand
estimate
here,
I've
asked
we
were
able
to
procure
sand
for
INS
average,
not
and
it's
not
the
exact
same
for
both
ends
of
the
township,
but
we
were
a
little
procure
sand
for
closer
to
13,
a
ton
and
I'm
estimating
closer
to
17
in
the
south
end
of
our
Township
and
19
in
the
north
for
2023,
that's
another
one
like
fuel
is
just
100
depends
on
the
winter,
but
as
of
right
now
we're
about
halfway
through
our
domes
and
if
things
lighten
up,
we
are
not
going
to
require
the
full
8
000
tons.
G
We
estimate
for
8
000
tons
that
fills
the
domes
each
Dome,
so
we're
hoping
that
we,
what
we
do
is
we
put
that
tender
out
for
the
full
amount
of
8
000
tons,
but
by
that
or
we
budget
for
8
000
tons.
But
by
the
time
it's
we
go
the
tender
we
could
only
have
to
ask
for
6
000,
sometimes
even
less
than
that,
so
it
just
depends
on
how
the
rest
of
the
winner
goes.
But
that's
my
numbers,
I'm
estimating
with.
G
Out
of
Meredith
Chancellor
Meeks,
no,
it
wasn't
all
of
our
own
sand.
This
year
we
used
all.
We
used
a
lot
of
our
own
sand
in
the
north
end
of
our
Township
two
years
ago,
and
we
had
sand
left
over
in
our
pits
that
so
it
was
a
bit
of
a
combination
of
both
we,
the
south
end
of
the
township
we
purchased
sand
from
the
Godfrey
area
and
that
was
100
supplied,
followed
by
contractors.
G
We
had
some
left
over
that
we
hauled
ourselves
back
from
the
ardoc
pit
and
then
we
had
to
top
that
up
with
some
purchased
sand
from
a
contractor
and
2023
is
going
to
be
100
purchased
from
contractors,
hoping
that's
what
the
hopes
of
getting
good
pricing
as
I'm
sure
you're,
aware
in
the
past.
If
prices
come
back
unreasonable,
then
we
re-look
at
using
our
own
sand
but
being
a
finite
resource
where
you
getting
some
decent
pricing
right
now,
we're
lucky
geographically
in
our
Township.
G
K
C
G
Correct
and
it's
broken
down
into
just
safety
signs
and
regulatory
signs
and
something
we've
got
some
low
actuals
for
regulatory
I
missed
a
year
on
sign
reflectivity,
but
in
2023
we'll
be
doing.
We
have
to
refresh
our
sign.
Reflectivity
inspection
and
that'll
be
a
pretty
expensive
item
as
well
that
and
after
that
inspection,
you
can
anticipate.
Quite
a
few
signs
need
to
be
replaced
because
of
their
reflective
value.
A
A
A
A
G
So
Madam
Mary
Michael
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
first
tandem
truck
you'll
see
was
didn't,
arrive
until
2023
I,
don't
believe
we
were
able
to
oops
sorry
pay
for
that
in
2022,
so
that
had
to
be
carried
over
the
283.
The
300
000
tandem,
plow
truck
I,
asked
Kathy
when
the
best
time
to
do
this
is
but
obviously
before
the
budgets
approve.
G
The
condition
of
this
is
that
we
use
a
RFQ
method
rather
than
an
rft,
because
we
do
know
that
our
rft
is
not
reliable,
putting
out
the
same
specs
that
we
would
in
a
in
a
request
for
quotation
directly
to
dealerships
and
places
like
that.
Even
online
platforms,
as
we
feel
we
can
get
a
good
truck
for
300
000
and
be
able
to
actually
get
it
in
the
current
year.
So
I
would
have
to
do.
I
would
have
along
with
that
I
think
you
guys
would
need
to
do
a
motion
to.
I
G
Fire
and
other
implications.
Okay,
now
I
am
confident
with
the
one,
the
one
ton
pickup.
That's
that's!
Actually,
oh,
no,
that
sorry
I
got
mixed
up
with
that
one,
but
the
half
ton
we're
gonna.
Do
your
standard,
rft
I,
don't
think
there's
as
much
of
a
issue
with
Supply
with
those
and
there's
no
real
rush
for
that,
not
a
big
Panic.
So
fine
with
doing
the
rft
for
that,
but
the
one
ton
pickup
we've
been
we've
been
told
early.
G
Sorry,
the
tandem
plow
truck
we've
been
told
where
it's
not
going
to
happen
for
years.
So.
C
L
Through
you,
madam
mayor,
so
the
first
tandem
truck
Tyson
elaborate
that
bit
more
it
was.
It
was
bought
last
year,
but
never
showed
up
to
this
year
or
something
is.
G
G
Yeah,
no,
it
was
budgeted
for
and
the
tender
came
to
council
and
was
it
was
awarded
in
Council
yeah.
L
E
L
Getting
yeah,
okay!
Is
there
any
way
we
could
change
these
calls
that
those
things
are
identified,
so
we
they're
not
in
the
same
because
they
end
up
at
the
same
thing
at
the
end
and
the
only
person
that
really
knows
that's
Michael
because
he
knows
what's
been
pulled
through.
You
know
what
I
mean
if
there
was
another
call
on
that.
L
E
G
Even
even
in
the
short
term,
even
a
description
where
it
says
pw044,
we
could
even
write
procured
in
2021
or
something
yeah.
A
M
A
M
We
replaced
the
truck
just
just
before
budget
wasn't
worth
fixing
or
whatever.
G
Oh
sorry,
Michael
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
the
damaged
truck
doesn't
show
up
in
this
budget.
It's
we're
still
negotiating
with
the
insurance
company
on
that
I'm
I
didn't
want
to
update
Council
last
time
because
we
weren't
sure,
but
we
think
we've
got
it,
we're
it's
written
off.
It's
been
deemed
as
a
write-off.
Now
so
we're
back
and
forth
with
insurance
to
finalize
that
number,
so
that
doesn't
show
up
on
this
budget.
G
The
tandem
truck
replaces
I
believed
truck
number
14,
which
was
just
Surplus
last
week.
I
believe
that's
the
one
that
falls
under
but
Michael
and
his
asset
manager.
It's
not
like
a
truck
number.
It's
gonna
mean
anything
to
you
anyway,
without
having
the
equipment
list
in
front
of
you,
but
it
is
replaced.
They
all
any
tandem
truck
you
see
is
replacing
one.
That's
at
the
end
of
its
service
light
half
ton
truck
replaces
truck
45.,
that's
the
that's
the
silver
truck
that
used
to
be
in
development
services.
M
G
G
No,
it's
I'd
have
to
see
exactly
which
one
you're
talking
about
I
was
sitting
aside.
G
Else
I
can't
think
of
which
one's
sitting
there
that
would
be
covered
in
snow,
but
there's
there
was
a
half
ton
that
was
up
for
Surplus
or
three
quarter:
ton
regular
cab
that
was
up
for
Surplus
in
the
last
round.
So
I
could
check
in
and
out.
A
G
Now
the
silver
truck
through
you,
madam
mayor,
the
silver
truck,
was
actually
supposed
to
be
Surplus
by
the
development
services.
We
saw
it
only
to
actually
took
a
couple
thousand
to
get
another
year
and
a
half
almost
two
years
out
of
it.
So
we
used
it
for
a
patrol
truck
and
we
put
the
summer
students
in
it
because
it
was
they
passed
safety
and
we
fixed
it
up.
But
it's
just
it's
not
it's!
Not
it's
not
repairable.
Now,
at
this
point
takes
too
much,
it
would
supersede
the
replacement
costs.
G
So
we
currently
did
the
same
thing
with
the
fire
department's
half
ton
and
so
that
that
half
ton
will
that
will
be
for
Noah
to
share.
G
L
H
G
G
It
was,
it
was
in
the
presentation.
The
and
one
other
important
thing
is
the
half
ton
also
the
way
that
those
go
through
the
fleet
is
from
office
staff
to
retire
as
a
patrol
truck
as
well.
So
once
the
miles
get
up
there
and
they're
starting
to
show
a
little
rust
and
stuff
like
that,
and
we
just
can
no
longer
maintain
them
and
they're
costing
us.
The
the
patrolmen
blue
patrolman
will
take
them
to
the
end
of
their.
H
N
Thank
you
place
in
the
orange
truck
that
we
did
was
unfixable,
that's
out
of
the
South
that
we,
you
came
to
council.
We
said
to
go
ahead
and
replace
that
truck.
Have
you
not
replaced
it
because
it's
still
the
orange
one's
still
on
the
road
in
stolen
surface.
G
The
orange
one
is
no
longer
on
the
road
it's
unsafe
for
the
road
we've
picked
up
that
route.
We've
managed
to
pick
up
that
route
with
three
quarter:
ton
trucks
at
the
time
of
first
presenting
that
to
council
with
the
council
turnover
it
got
delayed
by
months
and
by
the
time
we
went,
got
the
approval
to
go
out
and
replace
that
truck
it
was.
G
We
were
in
the
winter
plow
season
we
couldn't
get
one
there's
there
was
no
more
available
online,
for
it
would
have
been
Reckless
to
spend
that
money
on
one
that
wasn't
a
good
deal,
so
we'll
be
looking
to
use
that
money
to
buy
one
in
this
in
the
spring
after
the
plow
season,
and
actually
most
recently,
we've
been
in
discussion
with
City
Kingston
as
they're
going
to
be
surplusing
some
trucks
that
might
fit
our
needs
as
well.
For
that
single
axis.
J
G
I'll
talk
with
Michael
about
that
and
see
if
it
needs
to
be
brought
into
this
because
I'll
be
honest,
I
got
a
little
confused
with
how
long
that
took
from
one
budget
season
to
the
next
of
of
how
to
properly
budget.
For
that
thank.
J
A
N
Nikki
sorry,
one
last
question
the
chief
and
I
just
kind
of
said
something:
if
it's
taking
three
years
to
get
a
fire
truck
delivered
and
next
year,
we're
ordering
another
fire
truck
that
we
actually
technically
need
next
year.
Should
we
not
be
looking
at
ordering
it
now,
it's
going
to
take
three
years
to
get
it,
even
though
we're
going
to
budget
for
it
next
year
with.
A
D
You're
human
American,
it's
it
is
a
bit
confusing
and
sort
of
out
of
the
box,
but
what
I
I
was
thinking.
So
we
have
three
trucks
that
are
the
same
year
and
I
think
we're
gonna
reduce
it
down
to
one
what
I
was
maybe
going
to
propose
and
I'm,
not
sure
whether
I'll
have
it's
it's
a
bit
of
a
luck
of
the
draws
to
get
a
used,
one,
that's
approximately
five
to
seven
years
old.
D
That's
in
the
the
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
range
Canadian
funds
in
a
in
a
more
practical
style
truck
for
for
the
hall
it'd
be
sharper,
Lakes
truck
that
we
would
replace
the
bumper
so
either
if
we
put
it
out
there
for
a
truck
you're,
probably
going
to
be
looking
at
around
700
000.
yeah,
so
I'm
trying
to
I'm
seeing
ones
now
and
I'm
I'm
following
this
company,
that's
in
the
states
down
in
Alabama
that
I've
dealt
with
before
and
it's
I
can
usually
get
something
around
the
four
to
five
hundred
thousand
Canadian
delivered.
D
So
that's
I,
don't
know
if
that's
where
I'm
gonna
so
I'm
keeping
an
eye
on
things,
but
I
don't
want
to
put
something
out
there.
That's
not
feasible
for
for
the
right.
You
know
the
right
pairs
or
for
Council
to
make
a
decision
on
right,
so
yeah,
so
that's
sort
of
where
I'm
at
because
right
now
to
wait
a
three-year
period
to
get
and
and
I,
don't
think
the
same
as
that
we
did
with
the
last
one.
We
didn't
have
to
put
a
deposit
on
the
truck.
D
So
this
Council
knows
that
we
haven't
put
any
money
towards
this
truck
that's
being
delivered
next
year,
but
when
it
comes,
the
price
is
held
at
550,
000.
I,
don't
know
whether
they'll
do
that
again
or
not
not
for
550
anyways
that'd
be
probably
700..
I
know
over
and
leads
they
just
ordered
one
from
a
company
at
Pierce
and
it
was
780.
D
D
G
Madame
mayor
just
back
to
the
single
axle
for
a
minute,
I,
don't
know
I'll,
probably
come
into
too
many
fire
trucks
here,
the
just
kidding
Chris,
obviously
the
back
to
the
single
axle
for
a
sec.
G
The
last
thing
I
want
to
do
is
confuse
Council
on
the
single
axle
and
when
we
made
that
decision
to
propose
the
council
about
instead
of
paying
the
high
cost
of
the
safety,
is
replacing
that
that
we
we're
going
to
use
some
of
the
Surplus
money
from
that
big
round
of
surpluses
that
we
were
going
to
do
so.
I
think
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
we've
done
a
lot
of
surplusing.
G
Since
then,
I
think
I'd
like
to
bring
a
report
back
to
council
on
where
we're
at
with
the
final
numbers
of
the
Surplus
and
how
much
that's
going
to
hit
the
2023
budget
and
go
from
there,
because
the
intent
of
that
at
the
time
was
to
pull
from
reserves
to
save
us
money
on
that
safety.
But
I
think
we
should
revisit
that
with
a
proper
report.
So
Council
has
a
chance
to
really
look
at
all
the
numbers
and
make
a
good
decision
on
that
single
axle.
G
A
E
C
A
L
G
Councilor
Middleton
we've
discussed
since
then
to
like
I
think
we
discussed
with
Council
since
then
that
the
I
think
Michael
presented
an
extra
10
or
15
000.
G
It's
gonna,
it
was
gonna
cost
quite
a
bit
of
interest
to
continue
on
with
that,
and
that
it
makes
more
sense
to
purchase
it.
The
waiting
the
lease
period
was
to
make
sure
it
was
equipment
that
would
work
for
us
suits
our
needs
and
it
does
so
I'm
hoping
to
buy
that
and
not
throw
away
money
on
interest.
L
And
how
many
I
know
last
year's
top
because
it
was
broke
down
when
the
boom
cylinder
broke
or
whatever
broke
on
it?
What's
your
predicted
hours
you'd
put
in
that
machine
in
a
year,
do
you
think,
or
is
it
too
early
to.
G
Tell
it's
too
early
to
tell
at
this
point
but
anytime,
when
we
have
a
chance
where
we're
not
absolutely
needed
for
grading
or
plowing,
and
it's
the
conditions
are
favorable,
we're
going
to
be
brushing
and
we're
going
to
be
ditching
brushing
is
the
thing
we're
behind
on
right
now
so
there'll
be
a
there'll,
be
a
body
in
the
machine
all
summer
all
year.
G
G
M
Previous
brusher
does
it,
is
it
being
sold,
or
do
we
take
into
account
that
price?
That's
here,
if.
G
You
do
sell
it
or
you
might
have
mayor
to
counselor
mix
up
I
believe
that
machine's
already
been,
it's
definitely
been
Surplus.
The
reason
I
wasn't
sure
is
because
the
we
separated
the
Lee
bear
from
the
brusher
head
and
I
forget
if
the
brusher
had
went
but
I'm
pretty
positive,
that
it
was
Surplus
as
well,
and
it
was
through
gut
deals
and
we
had
a
pretty
high
return
on
that.
A
The
one
thing
I
would
say
is
we
have
cut
a
lot
of
capital
jobs
this
year
and
expect
that
the
roads
department
will
be
doing
a
lot
more
operational
stuff
with
our
equipment
on
roads,
and
this
sounds
like
it
may
be
a
key
component
to
to
getting
that
done.
If
we
can't
do
big
major
jobs,
maybe
we
can
do
a
bunch
of
little
ones,
take
out
some
corners
and
straighten
some
ditches
and
holes
and
I
like.
A
So
we'll
leave
that
in
and
whatever
the
new
Total
is
so
Bridges
Public
Works
500
000
for
the
Oakland
one.
We
talked
about
that
money
coming
back
through
the
county
and
Road
38
Corridor
Improvement
at
Eagle
Lake.
That
was
County
as
well
with
some
money
coming
back
for
that,
yes
and
I,
don't
remember
the
number
coming.
L
G
A
partnership
and,
and
the
idea
is
that
they've
got
grant
money
that
they've
got
to
spend
and
they
kind
of
chose
Central
front
Knack
as
a
place
to
put
it
into.
E
A
G
Madame
mayor
Public,
Works,
is
first
I
want
to
clarify
the
paving
Westport.
Road
is
just
a
title
is
not
actually
Paving
with
asphalt.
We
want
to
make
that
really
clear.
Are
you
shocked,
counselor
Smith,
the
it's
a
double
surface
treatment?
It's
a
reconstruction
and
a
double
surface
treatment.
E
So
in
the
last
package
that
was
handed
out,
there
was
an
Excel
document
went
that
went
through
2022
and
2021
that
showed
the
department
submission,
which
was
a
lot
higher
Dollar
Wise
than
the
what
was
presented
to
council.
Unfortunately,
we
only
started
doing
that
process
in
2021,
so
I
couldn't
really
go
back
further
to
say
what
projects
were
in
there
and
which
ones
actually
got
improved.
But
for
the
last
two
years
it's
a.
E
L
C
A
Here,
I
guess:
one
of
the
things
that
I've
been
thinking
about
is
my
idea
about
changing
the
highway.
38
preservation
program
is
the
money
that
we
would
save
from
that
really
wouldn't
do
much
on
the
other
big
projects
like
Henderson
wrote
of
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
38
highway
could
break
this
municipality
if
it
goes
and
we've
we
bought
we're
still
paying
on
the
loan
that
we
got
to
fix
it
back.
I,
don't
know
10
15
years
ago.
Are
we
not
so
we
finally
finished
it,
but
it
was
how
much
was
that
loans.
B
C
Cindy
so
I
know
we
don't
have
enough
to
do
the
Henderson
Road,
but
why
couldn't
we
split
it
between
the
Arden
Road
and
road
38.?
It's
only
a
couple:
kilometers
Less
on
the
road
38
it's
going
to
make
the
Arden
Road
a
lot
better.
Road
we're
still
going
to
have
to
spend
that
money
at
some
point
on
the
Arden
Road
anyways
and
according
to
our
rules,
need
study
back
in
2019.
C
A
G
Madame,
mayor
I
I,
don't
mean
to
put
Michael
on
the
spot
and
we
don't
exact
I,
don't
expect
exact
numbers,
but
what
would
Council
be
open
to
hearing
what
it
would
do
to
the
overall
tax
base?
If,
if
we
were
to
just
add
Arden
Road
to
this
budget,.
E
So
give
me
five
three
minutes
but
row:
38
loan
was
1.1
million
according
to
something.
E
Yeah
and
and
so
that
that
page,
that
I
handed
out
capital
projects
by
District
the
big
roads
that
we
did,
the
wagger
build
I
understood.
We
did
something,
the
continuation
of
that
one
fifth
Lake
fifth
like
thank
you
and
sharp
Lake
Village.
They
were
all
done
through
grants.
Take
those
roads
out
and
every
district
is
about
the
same
and
capital
dollars
that
have
been
spent,
then
to
mount
a
mayor's
Point.
There's
too
many
roads
and
not
enough
money,
yeah
foreign.
G
I'm
just
going
to
triple
check
that
mattamere,
but
I'm
I
can
tell
you
exact
Road
names
to
from
where
to
where.
A
G
A
B
J
You,
madam
mayor,
through
you
things
the
speed
limit's
only
60
there
could
it
be
Polaroid
and
and
just
graded
for
a
couple
of
years.
G
Three
amount
of
Mayor
to
councilor
Everett
I
am
open
to
reducing
levels
of
service.
We've
done
it
on
Zealand,
Road
and
Price
Road
indefinitely.
At
this
point,
so
I
would
need
direction
on
Just
for
future
planning
and
engineering
and
getting
roads
ready
I
need
direction
on.
If
we
have
a
plan
to
eventually
resurface
it
or
just
leave
it
gravel,
because
that
kind
of
makes
a
difference
for
what
I
apply
to
it.
When
it's
done,
but
reducing
level
of
service
is
something
municipalities
are
going
to
have
to
look
at
during
these
hard
times.
G
G
C
B
A
A
C
A
If
we
were
prepared
to
go
to
say
3.5
as
of
an
increase
increase,
let's
let
the
folks
go
back
with
the
pens
and
pencils
and
see
what
we
can
come
up
with
to
get
whatever
money
we
can
to
do
that
section
of
Arden
wrote
instead
of
like.
Maybe
maybe
you
would
look
at
cutting
some
of
the
a
couple
of
kilometers
of
the
preservation?
Maybe
you
would
look
at
doing
something
different
on
the
Westport
Road
I.
E
I
think
we're
all
hoping
about
a
mayor,
so
3.5
sorry
I
wanted
to
kind
of
go
there.
First,
that
would
mean
22
increase
for
every
hundred
thousand
or
the
average
property
which
our
assessment
from
Impact
says.
165
000
would
mean
a
36
dollar
increase,
but
again
take
22
for
every
hundred
thousand.
That
would
be
the
3.5
net
Levy.
Can
we
find
that
somewhere
I'm
sure
we
can
maybe
in
a
risk
to
some
service
levels
now
to
answer
the
initial
question?
E
K
E
And
so
just
clarify
that
was
an
additional
5.46.
I
had
the
number
up
there,
but
oh
that
was
yeah.
D
E
I
I
G
G
G
The
last
couple
years,
we've
done
small
sections
of
Highway
38
to
try
to
make
sure
that
that
is
the
right
product
for
that
road
and
we've
had
now
two
and
a
half
years
of,
and
there's
also
I,
think
there's
I'm
going
to
speak
to
that.
I.
Think
that
there's
one
invoice.
E
G
There
was,
there
was
an
end.
There
was
an
invoicing
issue
where
we
didn't
get
invoiced
till
really
late.
So
it's
it
is
higher,
but
we
know
that
is
a
great
product
for
that
road.
Now
and
it's
performing
well
and
we
want
to
start
saving
on
mobilization.
There
is
36
kilometers
of
Road,
38,
total
and
I
want
to
start
knocking
off
bigger
chunks,
so
we
can
get
it
done
and
then
start
and
start
preserving
other
asphalt.
G
Did
last
year
that's
exactly
right:
it's
almost
double
yeah,
it's
9.1
kilometers!
It
takes
you
from
Evergreen
Road
where
we
left
off
and
it
will
get
to
just
on
the
south
side
of
the
village
of
Parham
to
Parham,
basically
and
I
just
want
to
remind
Council
I'm.
Just
looking
at
my
pavement
preservation
chart
here
and
just
remind
Council
that
the
Micro
Surface
section
portion
of
this
budget
is
only
is
actually
655,
200
dollars,
plus
10
contingency.
So
it's
not
all.
It's
not
just
want
to
remind
everybody.
E
I
I
mean
there's
Minor
Adjustments
there,
the
recreation
stuff
that
we
talked
about
before.
But
if
we
went
to
a
3.5
Levy
increase
that
would
give
us
about
another.
Seventy
five
thousand
dollars,
eighty
thousand
dollars
to
work
with,
and
then,
if
we,
the
couple
of
projects
that
we
reduced,
we
pull
that
money
from
reserves
that
would
give
us
the
180
000
difference
so
260.
B
The
the
other
thing
I
I,
asked
Tyson
with
some
of
that
money
that
Michael's
talking
about
that.
We
could
and
leave
it
at
a
3.5
percent.
B
I
said:
could
we
not
do
a
section
of
the
Arden
Road,
especially
when
we
talked
about
from
Highway
7
in
to
as
far
as
what
he
you
were
mentioning
with
salt,
Price,
Road
or
C4
somewhere
around
there,
because
that
is
one
of
the
heart
you
know
at
least
to
do
part
of
that.
Could
we
do
that?
It
wouldn't
cost
the
519,
but
at
least
we'll
get
some
of
it
done
and
then
be
able
to
go
for
the
next
year
and
I'll.
Let
you
answer
that
question.
G
To
Kathy
the
so
that's
I'm,
looking
at
my
estimator
here,
our
Arden
Road
is
broken
up.
This
portion
of
Arden
Road
is
broken
up
into
three
sections,
so
Highway,
seven
to
price
price,
to
Railway,
Street
and
then
Railway
Street
to
Clark
Road.
My
first
section
this
is
before
I
add
10.
This
is
raw
Data
before
I,
add
10
contingencies,
so
the
highway
seven
to
Price,
Road
section,
which
is
1.35
kilometers,
obviously
I'm
going
to
verify
these
numbers
before
finalizing,
but
it
shows
up
as
159
939,
so
160.
G
I,
just
if
Council
decides
to
take
that
approach.
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
about
I
estimate
it's
about
twenty
thousand
dollars.
Every
time
you
mobilize
a
double
surface
treatment
crew.
So
if
we
do,
if
we
happen
to
break
it
into
those
three
sections
and
do
it
over
three
different
years,
so
you're
like
60
000
in
mobilization,
but
it's
it's
an
option.
If.
A
G
Madam
mayor
we
can
and
it
we
might
get
better
unit
pricing
per
square
meter,
but
you
still
have
to
there's
a
high
cost
for
mobilizing
the
crew
to
a
section
of
Road.
So
I
I
still
ask
for
to
move
from
one
row
to
the
other.
A
G
Thousand
is
a
conservative
estimate,
no
I
think
if
they
mobilize
from
a
different
city
to
here
twenty
thousand,
but
I
expect
they'd
still
charge
ten
ten
to
Fifteen.
G
Costs
it,
it
includes,
there's
other
overhead
costs
that
it's
not
just
floating
equipment
to
site,
there's
other
there's
site,
perhaps
there's
safe
mol
safety
requirements
for
site
trailers
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
as
well
included
in
that
right.
C
When
we
come
back
to
the
table
next
year
to
do
this,
are
we
going
to
be
op,
38
again
and
again
and
again
every
year,
because
it's
not
completely
done
yet
or
are
you
going
to
give
us
some
kind
of
someday?
You
may
actually
get
a
road,
because
every
year
it's
like
38
pops
up
and
then
nobody
gets
anything
right
if
the
money
falls
well,.
C
G
So
through
Madam
mayor
to
councilor
Kelsey,
if
if
canceled
wants
to
continue
preserving
38,
but
if
you
only
keep
on
awarding
three
kilometer
chunks
it'll
take
12
years
because
it's
36
kilometers
long.
So
that's
why
I'm
proposing
nine
to
just
get
it
done,
just
get
it
done
sooner
and
get
it
preserved
and
we
can
move
on.
And
that
buys
us
lots
of
time.
Then
how.
A
N
I
A
L
D
L
L
L
We
do
that
as
a
counselor,
because
I
see
I
know
what
Cindy's
saying
we're
gonna
be
back
here
next
year
and
it's
like
the
the
pavement
preservation
program
went
so
good
and
if
we
just
really
push
this
last
16
kilometers
to
get
to
sharper
Lake,
it
will
it'll
really
save
us
and
no
other
roads
get
done
and
then
it'll
be
well.
Zealand.
Road
should
be
repaved
because
it
could
be
a
bypass
of
Highway
7,
shut
down
and
between
us
and
maberly
I.
L
L
No
I'm
just
saying
that
a
lot
of
these
roads
have
been
keep
being
pushed
off
and
pushed
off
and
I
understand
that,
because
things
come
up
but
I
understand
what
Cindy
and
all
our
counselors
are
hearing
Israel
kind
of
getting
sick
of
being
pushed
off.
But
it
doesn't
really
increase
the
budget.
It
keeps
the
budget
on
plane
for
next
year
without
any
unforeseen.
A
A
We
have
been
able
to
do
roads
that
we
wouldn't
have
done
otherwise,
but
we
had
to
borrow
money
to
offset
those
costs.
We've
had
to
take
from
our
reserves
over
the
years
to
offset
grants
that
we're
getting.
We
are
now
at
49
percent
in
in
debt
and
of
borrowed
money
with
this
budget
today,
if
we
were
to
accept
it
as
it
is
we're
looking
at
pulling
600
and
some
thousand
dollars
out
of
Reserves,
the
pot
is
dry.
A
We
cannot
borrow
any
more
money.
We
we've
got
to
do
what
we
can
do
with
what
we've
got
so
granted.
Henderson
has
been
waiting
to
get
a
job
done,
I've
been
waiting
to
get
a
little
job
done
in
the
village.
We've
all
been
waiting
for
different
jobs
to
get
done,
but
there's
just
not
enough
money
to
do
it
and
we
could.
A
We
could
do
it
all
from
the
taxpayers,
but
it
will
move
it,
we'll
put
them
out
of
their
homes,
because
the
average
that
we
use
to
calculate
is
160,
but
look
at
the
people
that
are
sitting
in
500
000
houses.
Now
three
percent
is
a
lot
of
money,
so
I
it's.
This
is
the
toughest
budget
year
that
I've
ever
gone
through,
and
it's
not
that
you
folks
are
new.
It's
that
it's
the
biggest
crunch
year,
when
there's
no
money
to
do
what
needs
to
be
done.
A
C
C
A
N
A
G
A
A
G
Right
I
apologize,
counselor
makes
I
misheard,
you,
it's
I,
believe
it's
655,
000
one
second,
so
Road
Road,
38
micro,
9.1
kilometers,
is
it's
655
200
is
the
micro
portion?
G
You've
also
got
70
rounded
up
to
73
000
for
single
surface
treatment.
That's
I
listed
those
roads
last
meeting
and
then
81
82
000
for
crack
ceiling.
Road
38
has
to
be
done
so
one
thing,
I
didn't
there's
a
lot
of
questions
back
and
forth,
but
I
didn't
get
to
touch
on
is
councilor
Kelsey's
point
of
I
do
as
much
as
I.
Don't
want
to
say
this
I
I
do
prefer.
G
I
would
prefer
to
take
a
year
off
of
preservation
than
to
break
it
up
into
smaller
chunks,
because
it's
it's
a
risk
in
case
the
condition
were
to
deteriorate
fast,
but
that's
a
risk,
but
the
what's
for
sure
is
higher
mobilization
costs
every
single
year
and
then
just
never
getting
it
done
so
I
would
prefer
to.
G
If
we
were
gonna,
keep
cutting
down
the
nine
do
the
little
three
polymer
chunks
I
would
almost
rather
skip
a
year,
which
kind
of
goes
back
to
councilor
Irwin's,
request
of
guaranteeing
I
think
it
was
Council
everyone's
request
of
guaranteeing
the
next
year
or
Craig's
request
of
guaranteeing
that
we
do
it
that
next
year
and
agreeing
to
a
bit
of
a
preservation
plan
which
I've
presented
in
2022.
G
The
dollar
value
directly
I
just
wanted
to
remind
Council
that's
about
the
high
mobilization.
Cost
of
every
I
mean
we
all
know
the
best
to
get
the
best
value
out
of
a
road
is
to
once
it
gets
to
that
deterioration.
State
is,
unfortunately,
you
have
to
ride
it
out
for
those
last
years
to
to
deal
with
that
level
of
service.
Unless
you
have
the
money
to
redo
it,
but
the
smaller
chunks,
we
break
it
into
the
more
mobilization
costs.
I
K
G
And
its
current
state,
since
the
road
38's
been
preserved
quite
similar
to
the
section
that
goes
through
South
Broad
neck
I'm,
not
sure
if
all
counselors
have
been
in
the
area
for
the
last
like
five
years,
but
over
the
last
five
years
that
section
in
Verona
Aerosmith
has
has
gone
from
like
a
fairly
good
ride,
condition
to
or
just
in
the
last
five
so
I
would
say
our
section
of
38,
totally
untouched
10,
but
I.
G
Don't
wanna
I'd
have
to
we'd,
have
to
get
into
our
asset
manager
and
spit
out
those
actual
reports.
But
let's
I
think
we're
pretty
safe
to
say,
10.
G
The
the
we
were
estimating
for
a
full
reconstruction
about
a
million
a
kilometer
last
year,
so
probably
38
to
40..
So
42
is
probably
a
little
steep
and
sections
wouldn't
need
a
full
replacement.
There's
sections
where
the
bases
will
be
really
good
and
it'll
be
more
of
a
shaving
pave,
but
that's
a
very
high
level
estimate
of
40
but
you're
correct
on
if
you're
putting
away
money
for
full
reconstruction
you're.
Looking
at
putting
away
Millions
per
year,
I
I.
A
After
we
pay
off
our
bills,
certainly
if
you
take
that
road
between
six
and
eight
o'clock
in
the
morning
going
to
Kingston
it's
wall-to-wall
traffic,
the
whole
way
amazing,
okay,
well,
I,
don't
think
we
really
have
finished
anything
off
and
I.
Don't
know
where
to
go
from
here,
other
than
I'm
losing
my
voice.
A
On
the
last
page,
that
is
Public
Works
building
the
sand,
Dome
tarp
of
a
hundred
thousand.
A
G
You
have
to
you,
have
to
create
a
wheelchair,
accessible
ramp
to
access
near
the
Cardinal
Cafe
you'd
have
to
create.
You
have
to
cut
the
sidewalk
out
and
create
you
have
to
go
back
quite
far
to
have
it
to
code
but
create
gradual
sloping
down
for
and
tactile
plates
and
everything
to
have
that
crosswalk
go
somewhere.
J
J
G
I
appreciate
trying
to
save
costs
and
thinking
outside
the
box,
but
the
Ontario
Provincial
standards
says
that
when
you
have
a
when
you
have
a
pedestrian
or
when
you
have
a
depression
for
accessible
access
point
on
a
sidewalk
you
have
to
you
have
to
build
That
Sidewalk
wider
in
behind.
So
you
need.
You
need
basically
simplest
terms.
You
need
room
for
somebody
in
a
wheelchair
to
be
sitting
there
ready
to
cross
and
somebody
and
other
pedestrian
traffic
to
go
back
around
the
back
of
them.
A
C
A
What
if
we
put
this
on
hold
for
now,
maybe
have
that
discussion
about
Matthew
Street
God
love
us
yeah,
but
you
know
if,
if
there,
if
this
Council
does
not
want
to
go
through
with
the
plan
that
the
last
Council
had
provided
so
be
it
we
have,
we
can
change
it
right.
A
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
My
question
isn't
related
to
Matthew
Street.
Okay,
I
just
want
to
clarify
or
make
sure
that
I
follow
Tyson
your
remarks
about
yeah
preservation.
A
G
Madam
Merida
councilor
Irwin
you're,
asking
about
like
the
more
what
preservation
we're
gonna
have
to
do
after
our
first
round
of
preservation.
Well,.
G
That's
an
excellent
question
and
that's
exactly
why
I
mentioned
the
council
is
that
we're
straight
in
that
period
right
now,
where
it
is,
it
would
be
a
risk,
but
it
it
would
probably
be
okay
to
wait
another
year.
It's
pushing
things
off
just
because
we
can
can
wait.
A
year
hasn't
really
turned
out
that
great
for
us
in
the
past,
but
the
it.
We
think
that
it
would
hold
up
for
another
year
and
still
be
eligible
for
payment
preservation.
Next
year.
E
G
10
years
I
picture
I
would
say
that,
after
10
years
of
zero
preservation
at
the
rate
that
we're
seeing
38
deteriorate
in
the
neighboring
Township
we're
looking
at
full
reconstruction
10
years
preserved.
If
I,
with
pavement
preservation
approved
over
the
next
few
years
and
getting
to
the
end
of
38
I
hope
to
get
back
onto
a
preservation,
you
you
preserve
it
again
to.
G
I
A
One
more
question:
if
you,
if
you
had
your
druthers,
what
would
you
do?
Would
you
preserve,
wrote
38
this
year.
G
Yeah,
oh
yeah,
this
is
I.
It's
a
good
chance
to
remind
Council
wish
list
has
been
used.
Quite
a
few
times
like
wish
list
is
15
million
we've
got
roads
that
need
to
be
that
needed
to
be
done
10
years
ago.
Everybody
agrees
on
that.
This
is
just
to
get
by
this.
The
what
I'm
presenting
the
9.1
km
9.1
kilometers,
is
just
to
get
by
and
try
to
present
something
reasonable
to
council
I.
G
Would
we
what
we
need
we're
playing
catch-up
from
not
preserving
anything
for
such
a
long
time
is
what
we're
doing
healthy
municipalities
are.
Spending
10
anywhere
from
five
to
fifteen
percent,
on
preservation,
yearly
and
they've
been
doing
it
for
a
long
time
and
their
roads
are
healthier.
G
We've
got
some
ketchup
to
do
to
get
to
that
point
where
we
can
get
back
down
to
a
reasonable
preservation
percentage
per
year,
because
that's
why
you're
seeing
these
high
costs
for
preservation
and
why
it's
why
it
seems
like
we're
focusing
more
on
that
than
capital
projects,
as
are,
unfortunately,
some
of
our
bad
roads
have
to
fail
for
a
little
longer
for
us
to
be
able
to
afford
to
do
them
properly.
G
That's
right
and
per
kilometer
we're
looking
at
preservation
costs
in
60
to
75
000
versus
full
reconstruction,
closer
to
a
million
yeah.
A
Okay,
it
is
actually
after
four
and
we
were
going
to
use
our
quitting
time,
I
think
in
order
to
give
staff
direction
to
come
back
with
their
final
numbers.
For
us,
we
need
to
decide
preservation
or
no
preservation.
If
it's
no
preservation,
then
Tyson
and
Michael
can
work
on
roads
they're
going
to
present
to
us
next
time
around
so
I
think
we
need
to
take
a
straw
vote
as
to
preservation
or
no
preservation.
H
G
Do
I
just
can
we
do
microsurface
versus
no
Micro
Surface,
because
I
there's
sync,
we
also
haven't
even
discussed
the
sections
of
Road.
A
A
C
B
I
A
A
B
J
A
G
G
Henderson
Road,
is
840
000,
so
that's
over
the
next
ones
on
the
list
would
be
a
combination
of
Brewer
and
Thompson
and
Hilltop
304.
That's
500.
K
A
B
A
And
the
motion
is
by
Bill
and
seconded
by
Lynn
that
bylaw
2023-13
being
about
to
confirm
the
proceedings
of
the
special
counsel
meeting
held
February
6
2023
be
read
a
first
second
and
third
time
and
finally
passed
the
sixth
day
of
February
2023
and
for
this
meeting
be
adjourned
until
the
regularly
scheduled
council
meeting
to
be
held
at
4
pm,
Tuesday
February,
the
14th
at
soldiers,
Memorial,
Hall,
Garrett,
Street,
all
those
in
favor
and
before
you
leave.
We
need
to
pick
a
date
to
finish.