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A
Sorry,
I'm
a
minute
late.
I
went
to
the
to
the
clt
meeting
again
accidentally.
B
A
Okay,
let
me
bring
it
up
over
here
on
the
agenda.
A
I
I
will
do
my
best
to
get
us
out
of
here
before
30
minutes
is
up,
because
I
haven't
done
that
in
any
meeting
in
like
the
last
month.
Okay,
so
first
of
all,
we
didn't
get
google
season
of
docs.
I
don't
know
why.
I
said
this
a
little
while
ago
in
the
clt
meeting,
but
I'll
say
it
again.
I
don't
know
why.
A
As
far
as
I
can
tell,
our
beginner's
guide
text
was
at
least
as
good
as
other
things
that
have
have
made
it
through
before
I
looked
at
last
year's
proposals,
which
and
seth
didn't
get
in
last
year
either.
I
almost
wonder
if
maybe
seth
is
too
big
and
well
established
for
them
to
want
to
to
throw
an
intern
at
it.
I
don't
know,
that's
the
only
thing
I
can.
I
can
come
up
with
I'm
waiting
on
an
email
back
from
them.
Maybe
they'll
tell
us
what
we
can
do
better
next
time.
A
A
I
don't
think
they're
out
until
later
today.
Maybe
I
think
I
think
it's
on
the
14th
so
actually
my
today
so
tomorrow.
I
guess
so.
I
guess
in
california.
I
think
that
they
get
published
in
the
14th.
But
don't
quote
me
on
that,
but
I
don't
think
they're
out
yet
I
did
get
another
email
that
it
was
like
meant
for
technical
writers
or
for
that
to
say
like
here
here
comes
get
ready
for
the
list.
A
Okay,
so
yeah,
that's
that's!
That's
crummy!
Still,
the
idea
for
the
beginner's
guide
isn't
a
waste
of
time.
It's
a
thing
that
we
we
do
need
to
have,
and
this
is
I'm
sort
of
jumping
ahead
to
the
seventh
item
on
the
agenda,
but
the
cii
of
best
practices,
documentation.
A
Compliance
wants
simple
definitions
of
everything,
so
that's
exactly
what
the
beginner's
bag
would
be
for
that
so
lucas,
cervini
of
the
palsy
super
computing
center
in
perth
here
in
australia,
contacted
me
earlier
this
week
and
he
says
that
there
is
not
a
way
to
query
the
api
with
any
of
the
standard
tools.
So
I
raised
a
bug
against
that
and
I
guess
you
guys
are
good
to
ask
who
who
should
I
talk
to
about
getting
some
basic
documentation
down
for
querying
the
api,
or
is
that
maybe
like
not
a
docs
bug?
B
So
what
do
you
mean
by
querying
the
api?
You
mean
the
redmine
paste
api
like
what
is
the
aim
here?
I'm
trying
to
understand.
A
Give
me
a
second
to
bring
up
my
notes
this.
This
is
like
three
or
four
days
ago,
we'll
see
no,
not
that
one.
B
B
A
B
A
B
Think
I'll
be
able
to
answer
your
question
better
if
I
understand
what
exactly
they
mean
and
in
general,
if
there
are
issues
related
to
the
tracker
or,
like
you
know,
adding
things
getting
access
to
things,
it's
david
callaway,
but
maybe
there
are
other
people
who
can
help
you.
If
you
tell
me
what
exactly
you
need.
A
No,
it's
it's
not
that
I've
already
raised
an
issue
in
the
tracker.
I
was
looking
for
it,
but
I'm
I'm
not
familiar
enough
with
it
yet
to
find
it
immediately.
So
it's
it's
still
the
klingon
bird
of
prey
from
star
trek
four
for
me,
and
I
am
the
human
crew
trying
to
fly
it
so
I'll
get
there,
but
I'm
not
there.
Yet,
let's
see
we'll
go
to
sapphio
stuff.
A
So,
since
david
gave
me
access
to
cephio,
I've
been
removing
about
25
spam
comments
a
day.
I'm
I'm
trying
to
keep
the
number
of
spam
comments
underneath
the
number
of
active,
australian,
covid19
cases
and
so
far
so
good
we're
at
about
615
cases
here
in
australia,
and
I
think
we're
down
to
like
570
or
80
spam
comments
and
then,
when
there's
a
comment,
that's
useful
that
links
to
a
like
a
blog
that
has
a
guide
for
how
to
set
something
up.
A
I
approve
that
I
didn't
ask
anybody
whether
I
should
or
shouldn't,
but
it
just
seems
like
there's
a
giant
queue
of
stuff
sitting
there.
Some
of
it's
obviously
useless
and
some
of
it's
obviously
useful.
So
if
anybody
has
any
any
problem
with
that,
I
apologize
for
taking
the
initiative,
but
also
lin's
asked
me
to
add
myself
to
the
core
team
page
in
the
last
clt
meeting.
So
I
did
that
as
well.
A
I
haven't
added
a
picture
of
myself
or
anything
I
I
might
do
that
or
a
biography
of
myself
or
like
witty
biography,
like
everybody
else
did
I
might
do
that
later.
We'll
see
it's
not
my
highest
priority,
but
at
least
like
the
way
to
contact
me
is
there
is
that
this
is
a
question
for
anyone
who
knows
anyone
who's
listening,
I'm
I
mean
I'm
talking
to
neha,
mainly
here,
but
any.
If
anybody
else
knows
it
is
seth
vancouver
cancelled
or
is
it
still
on.
A
It's
in
june,
I
don't
know
the
exact
date.
I
know
that
it's
it's
in
june
of
this
year,
which
I
would
think
would
mean.
Yes,
it's
cancelled,
it's
it's
on
the
pacific
coast
and
it's
an
international
event
yeah.
That
would
be
insane
to
hold
it.
I
mean
yeah,
we're
not
serial
killers,
we're
just
people
interested
in
distributed
redundant.
A
I
can't
remember
who
it
was
right
now,
but
there
were
some
justified
complaints
about
all
these
events
being
mentioned
on
the
on
the
sapphio
website
when
they're
not
happening
anymore,
so
some
of
them
some
have
been
removed,
but
there's
still
a
big
occasional
advertisement
that
comes
up
for
seth
vancouver,
so
I'll
ask
mike.
This
is
more
of
a
procedural
question
for
me.
A
How
can
I
get
notifications
from
github
in
some
way
where,
like
I
can
be,
alerted
because
sebastian
pushed
a
bug
or
a
pull
request
back
to
me,
like
eight
days
ago,
when
I
was
working
on
the
the
google
stuff,
and
I
could
have
just
done
it,
I
could
have
pushed
it
right
back
to
him
immediately.
If
I
had
known
is
there
when
someone
asks
me
on,
you
know
at
sign
zed
over
23.
A
B
Are
there
other
other
ways
to
do
it
as
well?
If
you
just
go
and
go
and
look
at
all
the
pull
requests,
and
there
are
filters
where
you
can,
if
somebody
requested
a
review
from
you
or
something
like
that
mentioned
you
or
something
like
that,
you
should
just
go
to
like
ceph
pulse
and
just
search
for
your
candle,
github
andrew.
B
Together,
so
this
should
do
it.
I
just
I
sent
a
url.
A
A
B
Well,
there
is
some
document
already,
but
I
don't
know
if
it's
up
to
date.
Let
me
pull
that
up.
B
B
A
I
I
might
have
there
was
you
guys
s
sent
me
something
that
I
went
through
some
time
ago
like
a
couple
of
months
ago,
and
it's
like
it's
been
in
the
back
of
my
mind
like
a
thing
to
get
back
to
that's
not
what.
B
A
Please
do
the
the
irc
one
is
the
one.
That's
you
know
that
persists.
A
B
B
Of
stuff
in
here
and
there
might
be
references
to
sepia
and
sap
access
and
stuff,
you
should
go
look
what
works
and
what
does
not
and
just
update
it.
Okay,.
B
For
example,
for
example,
we
have
a
google
summer
of
code,
a
student
who's
working
on
pathology,
and
she
was
going
through
some
of
these
steps
to
set
up
pathology
and
turns
out
after
we
have
switched
to
python
3.
Some
of
our
dependencies
and
requirements
have
become
old,
so
they're
not
up
to
date.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
things
we
might
be.
Looking
for
to
update.
A
Okay,
then,
I
will
I'll
go
through
that-
I
guess
maybe
not
alongside,
but
in
the
same
couple
of
days
that
I
write
down
all
the
cepheum
stuff,
which
is
another
thing
that
I'm
will
that
when
you
and
josh-
and
I
speak
next
friday-
I'll
have
a
list
of
like
any
issues
that
come
up
in
the
cef
adm
installation
like
a
manual
installation,
not
not
absolutely
manual
asset
adm,
and
so
you
understand
what
I
mean:
I'm
not
installing
it
from
source,
I'm
not
insane
and
then
so.
A
An
ongoing
thing
that
I
want
to
bring
up.
That
is
for
absolutely
anyone
who
can
hear
my
voice.
Is
this
thing
I'm
thinking
of
calling
the
encapsulated
definition
initiative,
which
is
just?
How
can
we
explain
to
people
who
who
are
interested
in
storage
redundancy
but
don't
know
any
of
the
parts
of
it?
A
How
can
you
give
them
just
a
couple
of
sentences
that
have
no
sprawl
and
no
side
trips,
and
you
just
get
a
good
idea
of
what
this
one
concept
is,
and
so
that
that
will
go
hand
in
hand
with
the
with
the
idea
of
creating
a
beginner's
guide,
and
it
will
also
help
to
clean
up
the
website.
We
need
to
have
a
landing
page
on
the
website.
A
That
says
very
basically
like
ceph
provides
data
redundancy
and
it
can
be
distributed,
and
I
mean
the
words
obviously
have
to
be
better,
but
it
has
to
give
like
the
the
basic
idea
for
people
who
don't
I
I
don't
want
to
just
say
it's
a
big
fancy
raid,
but
that
would
be
like
that
is
how
I
describe
it
to
people
who
ask
what
is
it
like?
What
do
you
write
about
now?
What
are
you
working
on
like
it's
seph?
What
is
stuff?
A
So
so
I
want
to
get
encapsulated
definitions
of
every
little
thing,
like
erasure
coding,
for
instance,
it's
like
a
way
of
doing
a
math
problem
so
that
you
spend
more
processing
power,
but
you
don't
have
to
save
as
much
stuff
on
a
disk,
so
you
don't
take
up
as
much
storage
space,
but
it
requires
more
computing
power.
So
it's
that
old,
it's
the
old
h.264
h.265
video
kodak
trade-off
and
that's
that's
an
ongoing
thing,
but
it's
going
to
be
a
thing
that
I
mentioned.
A
A
whole
lot
is
like:
whenever
we
talk
about
anything,
can
we
get
that
into
one
or
two
sentences
and
I'm
I?
I
want
to
be
clear
to
everyone
who
is
listening
to
this
either
now
or
if,
for
some
reason,
you're
listening
to
this
in
the
future,
I
know
that
any
small
number
of
sentences
will,
of
necessity,
be
heuristic,
but
the
idea
is
that
it
will
be
like
that.
That's
that's
precisely
a
point.
It's
not
meant
to
be
completely
accurate.
A
A
It
will
be,
it
will
be
everywhere.
It
will
be
baked
into
everything
like
it.
Won't
just
be.
This
isn't
like
a
list
or
anything
like
that.
This
is
just
like
it
will
be
at
the
top
of
anything.
That
is
not
a
procedure
that
purports
to
give
people
a
deeper
understanding
or
maybe
not
even
a
deeper
understanding
than
just
knowing
what
the
words
are
it'll
be
on
every
every
time.
A
There
is
an
explanation
needed
there
will
be
like
a
small
if
you
only
have
a
couple
of
seconds
to
read
something
definition,
so
that
there's
what
I
envision
ultimately-
and
this
is
a
multiple
month
project-
is
a
website
that
is
easy
to
navigate
that
you
land
on,
and
it
gives
you
this
very
basic
paragraph
explaining
what
ceph
is
and
then
there
will
be
a
thing
that
explains
how
to
install
it,
and
we
pretty
much,
I
think,
have
that
with
the
cefadm
procedure.
A
I
I
think
it's
it
still
exists
pretty
much
intact
and
then,
after
that,
and
so
in
in
the
installation
procedure,
there
will
be
places
where
concepts
that
might
be
unfamiliar
to
a
first-time
user
would
make
use
of
this
encapsulated
definitions.
Initiative,
like
the
output
of
this
encapsulated
definitions
initiative.
This
is
not
just
like
a
one-time
thing.
This
is
just
like
an
ongoing
habit
of
always
trying
to
get
things
into
this.
This
simple,
clear,
heuristic,
form
of
expression
and
and
then
once
they've
completed
the
installation
guide.
A
They
should
then
be
able
to
navigate
to
other
places
in
our
online
documentation
that
give
them
the
information
they
need
to
build
out
their
particular
implementation
of
ceph,
their
their
particular
installation,
and
I
know
that's
how
I
want
it
to
look.
I
mean:
that's,
that's
the
vision
for
the
thing.
I
don't
yet
know
exactly
what
obstacles
stand
in
the
way
of
getting
that
thing
done,
but
that's.
B
I
would
suggest
to
start
out
with
a
skeleton
and
of
what
you
envision.
It
could
just
be
a
block
diagram
of
things
that
you
think
makes
sense,
and
then
we
can
figure
out
how
we
can
make
it
more
understandable
in
the
sense
group
things
in
a
way
that
makes
sense,
and
we
also
don't
want
it
to
be
super
invasive.
B
So
we
wanted
to
be
a
finite
list
of
things
that
people
really
care
about,
and
then
we
have
the
right
people
who
can
fill
in
those
blanks
once
you
have
the
skeleton
out,
so
I
think
that's
the
best
way
to
go.
A
And
I
this
this
might
go
without
saying,
but
things
like
this
are
always
it's
better.
When
it's
not
a
giant
committee
of
people,
each
making
one
little
change,
then
that's
how
you
get
the
the
sort
of.
A
The
organization
on
the
docs
website
is
bad.
The
content
is
quite
good.
It's
it's
really
not
that
bad.
It's
just
very
hard
to
find
anything,
and
it's
because
it's
like
I
used
to
work
at
a
place
where
the
ceo
kept
all
of
the
receipts
for
everything
in
one
big,
thin,
plastic
shopping
bag
and
that's
kind
of
what
the
documentation
is
like
now
like
it's,
not
it's
not
filed
properly
there.
A
There
are
bits
of
it
that
are
organized
and
filed,
but
then,
when
you
click
on
that
side,
pane
it's
very
confusing,
so
we,
the
installation
guide,
needs
to
lead
to
a
simple
map
of
how
to
find
what
it
is
you
want
to
do
next.
I
know
also
that
lars
is
working
on
some
initiative.
I
think
lars
is
susa
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
he's
working
on
this
initiative
to
get
a
completely
new
website.
Do
you
know
about
this.
B
A
A
What
I
do
yeah,
I
guess
I
don't
yeah
and
then
I've
added
a
link
to
this
best
practices,
documentation
compliance
list
that
came
up
in
the
clt
meeting
just
a
couple
of
hours
ago
and
the
I
think
there's
three
things
on
there
that
are
documentation
related
that
are
that
have
a
red
dot
next
to
them,
meaning
that
it's
not
listed
as
being
done.
I
think
one
of
them
we
actually
have.
We
have
a
fair.
A
We
do
provide
documentation
in
english
and
a
link
explaining
how
our
offering
readers
a
chance
to
to
make
improvements
or
to
make
suggestions,
but
the
other
stuff
on
there
tracks.
With
what
we've
been
saying,
the
whole
time,
we
need
to
do
long
term.
So
so
I
I
think
that
in
a
way,
that's
good,
because
it
means
that
we're
we're
not
crazy,
we're
thinking
about
the
right
things
or
at
least
we're
all
thinking
the
same
thing,
and
that
is
that
is
my
update.
B
To
find
out,
if
they
have
reasons
that
they
can
provide
for
not
making
our
application,
then
we
might
be
able
to
do
better
next
time,
but
it's
okay.
A
Yeah,
I
hope
so,
but
I
will
invest
this
time
and
I'm
trying
to
clear
one
bug
a
day
if
I
can,
which
is
a
lot,
but
that's
the
plan.
Right
now
is
just
like
one
bug
a
day
every
day.
B
I
think,
from
my
perspective,
the
couple
of
things
I
guess
we
spoke
about
redirecting
docs.com
to
the
read
the
docs
version
yeah
last
week
and
I
think
we
should
go
ahead
and
do
that.
That
happened.
B
Okay,
and-
and
we
should
just
make
sure
that
our
reporting
documentation,
bug
mechanism
is
supported
to
that
read
the
docs
version
of
it
as
well.
That's-
and
that
was
the
last
item
left
for
us
to
figure
out.
A
B
It
just
I
mean
there
currently,
if
you
look
at
our
docs
page,
it
has
an
edit
on
github
and
a
reporter
documentation
bug
so
read.
The
docs
already
has
an
inbuilt
edit
on
github
feature,
so
we
can
get
rid
of
the
bells
and
whistles
that
we
had
added
in
in
our
code
base
for
that,
but
we
still
need
the
other
bit
about
reporter
documentation,
bug
which
just
redirects
to.
B
B
B
Yeah,
maybe
that's
just
what
looking
at
it
definitely
looks
new
to
me
yeah.
You
can
do
that
at
your
own
time.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up
and
I
think
the
final
thing
is
about
your
object,
store
tool,
documentation.
Pr,
I
think
david
is
going
to
be
reviewing
that
this
week
and
then
we
should
be
ready
to
merge
it
david
that
man.
A
Is
all
right,
I
guess,
then
I
need
to
go
back
over
it
and
make
sure
that.
A
A
If
you
want
to
look
at
the
tracker,
the
ceftracker
documentation
tag,
those
are
all
the
the
bugs
that
are
open
right
now.
Yeah
I've
got.