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A
All
right,
so
the
first
thing
I
was
gonna
say,
is
the
crisp
getting
started
guide
full
request.
Sebastian
made
some
I'm,
I
say
express
some
preferences
about
not
pulling
the
deaf
package,
but
in
star
not
not
pulling
this
up
software
directly,
but
instead
going
through
the
package,
managers
and
josh
engaged
in.
Let's
call
it
discussion
with
him
about
it
and
like
most
information
development,
it
doesn't
quite
deal
acrimonious,
but
it's
sort
of
close.
That's
fine.
It's
just
the
nature
of
people
having
their
preferred
ways
of
doing
things.
A
Maybe
we
won't
get
everything
about
placement
group
repair
in
the
docs,
but
we're
gonna
like
I'm
gonna,
try
to
try
to
put
this
thing
to
bed
so
that
you're
satisfied
and
so
that
we
cover
at
least
we
mentioned
all
the
stuff
you
want
to
mention.
I
see.
That's
that's
the
placement
group
thing.
Did
you
have
anything
to
say
about
that?
Well,.
A
B
A
Okay,
so
the
let
me
see,
if
I
understand
this
and
the
way
that
I'm
gonna
say
it.
It's
gonna
sound
like
I'm
stupider
than
I
actually
am,
but
I'm
gonna
deliberately
say
it
in
this
dumb
way.
So
a
placement
group
is
marked
inconsistent
when
objects
within
it
are
inconsistent
that
you
can
speak
of
a
placement
group
being
inconsistent,
but
what
that
really
means
is
that
there
are
objects
in
the
placement
group
that
are
inconsistent.
Do
I
have
that
right.
Yes,.
C
A
A
A
Okay,
all
right
stat
mismatch.
Instead,
that
mismatch
when
again
I
know
this
is
dumb,
but
that's
the
nature
of
tech
writing
questions.
When
we
say
stat
mismatch,
we
mean
that
the
current
stats
are
not
consistent
with
what
have
come
before.
Is
that
right?
No.
B
With
with
react
like
after
you've,
after
you've,
scrubbed
you've,
actually
you've
developed
the
actual
stats,
because
you've
looked
at
every
object.
How
long
in
it?
How
big?
It
is
all
that
information?
You
actually
know
exactly
how
the
stats
should
look,
because
you've
examined
the
whole
consistence
the
whole
the
whole
PG.
B
So
then,
the
recorded
stats
are
what
should
have
been
continuously
maintained
in
a
correct
State,
and
if
they
don't
match,
then
we
know
they're.
We
know
they're
wrong,
we
know
well
I
mean,
obviously
somebody
could
have
blown
away
an
object
right
I
mean
it
is
possible
that
yeah,
like
object,
was
blown
away,
and
now
we
don't
count
it
and
now
the
stats
are
off,
and
but
we
really
have
no
way
to
know
that
it's
anything
other
than
just
the
stats
are
off,
because
if
it.
A
Stats
that
where
I
had
I
I
hope
that
this
isn't
gonna
going
to
make
you
furious
with
me
like,
we
expect
a
certain
like.
We
expect
the
stats
to
be
a
certain
way,
the
numbers
to
be
a
certain
way
and
that
expectation
is
based
on
a
previous
scroll
right.
That's
based
on
me
the
outcome
of
a
previous
scrub.
B
B
B
C
A
B
A
That's
the
that's
always.
The
problem
is
like
the
target
is
to
write
some
simple
sentences.
They
can
get
an
ignorant
person
to
the
point
where
they
can
I'm
like
I.
Don't
know
what
do
I
always
say
here
where
they
can
be
hygienic
about
their
stuff
environment
where
they
can,
they
can
make
smart
choices
and
keep
things
working,
but
I'm
I'm.
Coming
from
this
from
a
place
of
total
ignorance,
which
is.
A
That
that's
that's
the
nature
of
technical
writing.
It's
just
articulated
ignorant,
but
in
order
to
know
what
I
need
to
write,
I
need
to
go
from
being
ignorant
knowing
a
little
bit
more
than
I
did
need
to
know
so
that
I
know
how
little
to
write,
which
I
know
is
more
information
than
you
need
about
what
I
do,
but
I
think
I've
got
it
I'll
write
it.
A
B
Okay,
yeah
I
might
add,
I
mean
you,
don't
necessarily
have
to
write
this,
but
maybe
I
would
add
some
text
about
like
if,
if
you
use
the
list,
inconsistent,
obj
command
and
nothing
comes
out.
Yet
it's
telling
you
there's
an
inconsistency,
then.
If
then,
it
could
be
like
the
stat
mismatch
situation.
That's
an
unfortunate
knock
bug,
but
we
don't
have
a
thing
that
outputs,
the
stat
inconsistency,
information
on
a
scrub.
B
C
B
B
C
Right
now,
I'm
talking
about
the
scrubs
that
mismatch
errors
that
we
see
in
our
test.
Suites
often
times
I've,
seen
that
there's
a
health
one
and
that's
why
the
PG
doesn't
go
active,
clean
and
then
you
will
have
something
like
and
that
went
to
college
egos
and
looks
for
active,
cleaner,
doesn't
find
it
and
then
it
will
crap
the
logs.
And
it
will
tell
you
that
there
was
a
warning,
and
this
was
the
reason
for
the
1i.
B
C
Maybe
he's
changed
that
behavior
I
I've
seen
that
I've
seen
that
in
the
past,
maybe
we
changed
it,
but
in
there
but
I
think
I
think
the
model
of
the
stories.
What
you
said
David
we
can
cannot
really
put
in
all
the
scenarios
in
that
doctors.
So
we
as
long
as
we
are
telling
people
that
these
are
the
kind,
broad
categories
of
inconsistency
issues
that
you
can
see
and
first
level
of
defense.
Second
level
of
defense,
and
then
you
have
to
like
you
know,
go
and
do
something
with
your
chest
or
two.
B
A
You've
got
to
grab
the
logs
okay,
then
I
on
behalf
of
the
ignorant
I,
like
maybe
I'll,
put
a
stump
in
there.
That
explains
how
to
grab
the
logs,
because
some
people
are
going
to
be
reading
the
documentation
who
are
coming
from
a
I,
don't
know
from
like
a
Windows
server
in
boxes
and
they're
not
used
to
wrapping,
or
at
least
that's
how
it
used
to
be
I.
Don't
know,
I
I,
don't
know
yet
who
is
like
how
technically
savvy
our
users
are
I.
A
B
B
Yeah
so
yeah
Neha.
We
were
just
mentioning
that
because
it's
the
only
scenario
where
there's
an
inconsistent
PG,
but
there
could
be
no
objects
in
particular
that
are
in
error.
So
it's
most
of
the
documentation
will
be
about
objects
and
about
them
being
Orion.
You
know,
as
we
saw
from
what
he
has,
which
is
the
list
inconsistent
obj,
commands
and
stuff
like
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
have
that
one
exception
and
that
maybe
that's
important
to
talk
about
weird
exceptions.
Yeah.
A
A
C
Just
throw
yeah
I
think
we've
beaten
that
topic
to
death
and
I
think
we
should
just
let
you
mores
that
PR
and
go
to
the
next
thing.
I
just
pasted
on
tractor
for
fartin
as
an
example
of
what
David
was
talking
about
so
you'd
see
something
like
an
error
like
this.
It
says
scrubbed
that
mismatch,
and
he
tell
you
where
the
mismatches.
B
A
B
C
C
A
A
Yeah
I'm
I'm,
not
as
I'm,
not
blocked
on
anything
right
now
that
I
know
of
I
have
to
look
through
this
Sebastian
made
some
requests
for
some
changes
to
the
getting
started,
guide
and
Josh
stepped
in
was
like
no
that's,
not
we're
not
trying
to
do
that.
We're
trying
to
do.
Oh
man
am
I
still
on
line
here.
My
I
just
received
I
just
received
a
text
message
from
my
mother
and
it
like
well,
there
we
go
and
it
just
grabbed
the
focus.
A
C
A
What
I'll
do
the
other
stuff
in
the
agenda
is
I
closed,
174
bugs
over
the
last
two
weeks
in
the
the
redline
tracker.
These
were
all
old
I
have
a
handwritten
record
of
every
one
of
them
in
the
stack
of
papers
over
here,
I
did
the
thing
that
I
got
from
it.
That
might
be
useful,
going
forward
and
I,
don't
know
where
this
exists
in
the
docs.
If
it
does
at
all,
is
there
a
Deb
guide?
Is
there
a
developer's
guide
for
stuff?
That's
like
separate
from
all
the
other
documentation.
C
A
A
A
All
right
so.
C
A
There
was
nothing
nothing
specific
that
was
that
was
hugely
pressing,
but
it
was
just
of
all
of
the
stuff
that
I
closed.
The
call
for
a
her
guide
was
the
clearest
and
the
most
coherent
thing
like
there
were
a
lot
of
that.
Some
of
the
the
bugs
were
misguided
attempts
to
get
users
supporter
like
a
service.
You
know,
like
I,
don't
know
how
to
configure
this
thing.
The
docs
don't
tell
me
somebody
should
tell
me
like
so
many
of
the
bugs
were
like
that.
A
C
A
A
A
So
now
that
I
have
this
I'll
look
at
it
and
I'll
see
if
it
might
go
back
into
the
redmine
tracker
and
change
the
statuses
from
closed
to
resolved
with
links
to
it,
just
so
that
there's
good
bookkeeping
on
it,
so
that
so
that
later
you
know
I
where
someone
else
doesn't
come
back
and
do
the
same
thing
again,
so
that
that's
also
the
other
thing
is
okay.
So
two
last
things
around
being
very
quick
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
maybe
a
week
and
a
half
ago,
I
don't
remember
right
now.
A
A
A
Saying
like
step
13,
make
sure
to
do
this
one
before
step
16
and
then
at
step
16
to
have
an
admonition
saying
before
you
do,
step
16
make
sure
you've
done
step
13,
so
I
was
able
to
get
that
change
in
the
docs
in
a
little
less
than
an
hour,
and
he
was
delighted
and
he
was
pleased
there
had
been
a
undocks
guy
hired
so
I'd
like
to
have
I'd
like
to
do
more.
Of
that.
I
told
him
also.
A
You
know
I
was
in
Australia,
so
he's
super
lucky
because
he
could
just
get
in
touch
with
me
during
the
day
and
get
his
changes
in.
He
was
excited
about
that.
I
would
like
for
that
to
be
a
service
that's
available
to
anybody
in
the
world
where,
like
they
can
contact
me
and
within
24
hours,
I'll
at
least
send
them
a
message
saying
like
I'll.
Do
this
on
Thursday
or
whatever?
And
that's:
this
is
a
thing
to
figure
out
over
time,
but
I
wanted
to
be
like
a
Doc's
request.
A
C
A
A
B
C
Know
that
the
the
dashboard
theme
has
something
where,
if
you
change
anything
in
the
dashboard,
it
requests
a
review
from
the
the
team
virtual
team
on
github.
So
I
don't
know
if
Zac
you're
up
for
it.
If
anybody
makes
any
doc
change,
you
get
a
notification
for
it,
but
that's
the
best
I
can
think
of
with
respect
to
github
read
mine.
A
I
understand
what
David's
asking
for
and
I
think
like
you
know
in
theory,
it's
good,
but
there's
an
awful
lot
of
dark
stuff
that
Patrick's
team
does
and
on
two
occasions
why,
when
I
was
newer,
that
this
I
stepped
in
to
try
to
help
and-
and
he
was
he
was
polite,
but
he
was
like
eh
eh-
we're
we're
doing
something
here
right
now,
so
this
is
like.
So
maybe,
if
everything
is
assigned
to
me,
I
would
get
a
bunch
of
stuff.
That's
not
actually
gonna
be.
You
know,
yeah.
B
A
B
C
A
Yeah
well
I'll
keep
doing
what
I've
done,
which
is
like
I,
don't
know,
I
think
I
thought
of
it.
It's
like
cleaning
out
a
refrigerator
or
something
just
going
through
the
old
doc
clogs
and
cleaning
out
the
old
ones,
and
once
it's
tidy
it'll
be
easier.
I,
don't
know
what
the
solution
is.
It's
a
problem.
It's
a
that's
the
nature
of
problems,
I!
Guess
they
stick
around.
A
Any
box
type
everything
physically
in
the
same
room
will
be
helpful
and
also
like
increasing
the
response
to
are
like
that
decreasing
the
response
time
you
know
like
when
somebody
raises
an
issue.
If
they
can
confidently
know
like
within
one
week's
time,
they
will
at
least
have
an
email
saying.
No,
this
is
a
bad
idea.
I
think
that
would
be
I
just
want
to
implement
some
basic
protocols
so
that
people
feel
like
they're
being
responded
to
when
they
raise
Doc's
issues.
Even
if
it's
to
say
no.