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A
C
Second,
I
did
show
the
survey
to
my
boss
and
some
others
like
hey:
what's
your
guys's
feedback,
just
what
do
you
think
and
the
my
my
boss
came
up
with
a
couple
of
interesting
questions
along
the
lines
of
hey
well,
for
his
first
thing
was
this
is
long,
oh
and
and
then
he
started.
He
was
like
okay,
well,
who's,
actually
reading
this
data,
who
what?
What
is?
C
Why
is
the
data
being
collected
because
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
in
there?
That's
one
of
those
it's
nice
to
know,
but
is
it
relevant
for
features
like
country
good
to
know
but
not
relevant
for
how
you
should
implement
features?
And
I
couldn't
answer
those
questions
so
when
I
was
bringing
up
to
you
guys
of
like
these
are
good
questions.
I
don't
know
the
answers.
A
A
For
the
hardware
vendors,
certainly
some
of
the
information
will
be
useful,
but
again
from
a
feature
standpoint.
Software
feature
standpoint.
A
I
don't
know
if
we
get
to
know
okay,
lots
of
people
are
using
caching
feature
yeah.
We
know
cash.
Tiering,
of
course,
is
not
something
that
many
people
use
red
hat
doesn't
support.
It
only
souza
supports
it.
A
What
are
the
other
caching
options?
You
know
those
kind
of
things,
but
it's
not
going
any
further
into
it
as
to
which
caching,
often
there
are
a
number
of
caching
options
right
feature-wise.
It
doesn't
provide
any
such
details.
We
just
get
to
know
kind
of
yes,
we
use
it
or
we
don't
was
wondering
if
there
is
any
way
of
making
this
better
either
to
help
identify
features.
A
There
are
oh,
there
are
some
questions,
though
things
like
you
know.
What
is
your
primary
interest
in
which
category
right
so
last
time
in
the
previous
time
as
well,
performance
was
the
highest
that
the
concern
everybody
is
most
of
them
said
it's
performance.
A
They
would
want
to
go
after
so
in
general,
it
would
help
well,
let's
focus
on
all
the
performance
related
features.
What
can
we
do
to
make
ceph
faster,
but
again
it's
only
at
that
level.
Much
deeper
into
okay,
which
features
can
help
right.
So
from
an
intel
side.
I
know
that
we
focused
on
the
nvme
technology
because
sap
is
written
for
hard
disk
drives
and
it's
not
taking
any
advantage
of
the
nvme
technology.
A
A
Just
to
see
you
know.
A
Can
we
give
better
improvements
in
how
we
deploy
ceph,
whether
it's
the
media
type
underlying
now
these
the
storage
layer?
Where
do
we
put
metadata?
Where
do
we
put
the
data
and
what
media
types
those
kind
of
details.
A
Even
even
things
like
you
know,
disc
form
factors
that
could
be
a
big
one
for
csps
versus
enterprise.
What
type
of
drives
are
they
looking
for.
A
C
I'm
trying
to
convince
super
micro
to
build
me
a
custom
amd
box,
my
little
one
12
drives
in
it,
but
I
want
it
driven
by
a
by
an
epic
chip
instead
of
two
sky
lakes
like
well,
there's
not
really
a
demand
for
it.
I'm
like
yes,
yes,
there
is
please
yeah.
D
B
So
paul,
I'm
I'm
curious
if
you
gave
your
boss
the
context
that
it's
not
exactly
technically,
it's
not
all
these
questions
pointing
to
all
these
questions.
If
yeah.
C
We
I
we
we
talked
about
that.
It's
if
you,
the
howard,
will
call
off
with
things
like.
Do
you
use
the
rattles
gateway?
No,
it
just
skips
that
chunk.
B
Yeah
so
I
mean
have
you
actually
counted
like
how
many
questions
it
is
say
if
you
chose
just
rbd
right.
So
if
there's,
if
there's
60
questions
they're
kind
of
divided
up,
so
your
chances
are,
if
you
are
using
all
the
components,
that's
the
worst
case,
and
I
I
don't
really
think
that
there's
really
I
mean
it,
the
number
of
questions
is
always
going
to
come
up.
B
We've
already
shown
that
there's
at
least
with,
even
with
poor
planning
and
the
user
survey
from
last
year,
with
just
myself
it
we
were
able
to
still
get
a.
You
know
somewhat
of
a
turnout
of
results
so-
and
I
think
you
know
we'll
you
know
we'll
get
better-
that
just
comes
from
promoting
and
actually
you
know
convincing
people
that
this
is
actually
something
worth
to
take
time
on.
So.
A
So,
given
the
timeline
mike
for
for
this
year,
do
we
should
we
stick
to
the
same
format
that
it
has
been
going
on
so
far.
B
Yeah,
so
we
usually
do
have
the
survey
go
out
around
september
if
earlier,
if
we
can
and
then
we
usually
end
everything
around
march
and
then
spend
the
time
from
there
to
click,
to
figure
out
the
results
and
everything.
B
B
Reason
that
there
needs
to
that,
we
need
to
stick
to
the
timeline,
I
guess,
but
if
we
can
people
kind
of
expect
it
at
the
same
time,
I
guess.
C
B
That's
a
good
idea,
let
me
re-enable
the
survey
and
I'll
email.
Our
group
thread
about
it
and
then
so
you
all
could
poke
around
at
it.
C
A
Right,
it's
just
the
content
right.
The
format
can
still
be
the
same
if
we
have
to
fill
in
more
valuable
questions,
gen
no,
for
the
overall
populist
keeping
everybody
in
mind.
A
A
B
There
yeah,
I
can
do
it
or
I
mean
you
can
upload
it
to
yourself.
If
you
have
account.
D
B
Point
I'll
have,
we
will
have
a
one
cloud
instance
thing
for
seth,
but
everything.
A
Is
I
can
do
that?
I
can
put
it
on
a
google
docs,
but
now
I
think
either
the
end
of
end
of
this
month
or
mid-december
intel
is
going
moving
away
from
google
docs.
So
we
might,
I
might
not
have
access
beyond
that,
but
I
can
put
that
till
pardon
me.
Do
you
have
a
personal
account?
A
B
A
Yeah,
let
me
take
that
one
so
yeah
I
can
put
that
across
and
you
know
everyone.
Everybody
else
can
put
their
comments
or
edit.
Those.
A
So
one
other
thing
that
was
there
last
time
that
we
spoke
was
that
that
will
happen
only
next
week
right
mike
the
meeting
there,
with
the
with
your
with
the
set
team,
the
board
with
the
supp
board.
Your
meeting
is
on
the
12th.
I
guess.
A
A
Okay,
so
again
that
all
right.
A
So
I
think
basically,
three
things
right.
One
is
the
content.
What
question
should
we
put
in
there,
whether
what
we
have
is
good
enough
or
what
should
we
change?
That's
one,
the
second
we
kind
of
we
are
agreeing
that
you
know
if
the
format
in
which
you
have
been
pushing
that
it's
still
a
good
one,
but
if
you
re-enable
it,
we
can
go
through
the
flow
and
decide
whether
anything
needs
to
be
changed
there
and
the
third
one
is
basically
promotion
right
beyond
going
through
your
board.
Are
there
other
ways
of
promoting
it?
B
C
D
D
Yeah,
I
know
in
previous
years
one
of
the
things
that
that
dissuaded
me
from
responding
to
surveys
was
that
that
the
surveys
at
the
time
were
written
for
one
people
who
had
one
cluster,
and
so
it
was.
It
was
difficult,
if
not
possible,
to
answer
when
you
had
20
clusters,
with
a
variety
of
technologies
and
and
usages
and
versions.
B
Yeah
I
tried
to
improve
that.
I
mean
you
can
definitely
go
through
the
survey
multiple
times.
D
B
Yeah,
the
yeah,
you
could
do
that
I
mean
originally,
you
know
I
did
have
the
survey
set
up
to
where
you
could
say
like
all
right.
I
have
three
clusters
and
then
it
was
like
three
times
what
60
questions,
if
you're,
using
all
the
components
in
all
the
clusters
so
yeah,
which
I
I
just
wasn't,
expecting
people
to
actually
fill
out,
but
that's
great.
C
C
B
D
B
D
Yeah,
I
think
I
think,
for
this
year
somewhere
around
question
29.
It
would
be
good
to
add.
Are
you
actually
able
to
use
self-adm.
A
B
I
do
believe
that
there
are
some
relevant
questions
to
rook,
looking
for
it
yeah
and
stuff
container
as
well.
D
I
don't
think
that
would
be
another
choice
for
e9.
D
C
D
One
of
the
things
is
that
you
know
with
with
upstream
supporting
a
limited
number
of
os's
you
you
it's.
It's
really
easy
to
get
to
the
point
where
it's
you,
you
can't
upgrade
to
the
new
os
because
of
the
os
you're
running
on
your
your
metal
and
you're
in
a
larger
organization
where
you
can't
just
randomly
say:
oh
we're
gonna
go,
you
know,
install
ubuntu
20,
whatever
they're
calling
it.
You
know,
because
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
overhead.
If
you
have
considerable
automation,
you
know
that
needs
to
get
updated.
D
You
know
it
might
take
you
a
year.
You
know
my
last
company
we
were
just
starting.
You
know.
A
year
ago
we
were
just
just
starting
to
update
the
bionic
from
trustee,
and
so
it
was,
you
know
it
was
a
you
know.
Upgrading
was
a
real
problem.
Even
you
know,
I
was
making
advantage
of
the
fact
that
the
bunch
of
people
were
building
luminous
packages
for
bionic.
That
upstream
wasn't
so
one
of
the.
What
I'm
getting
at
is.
One
of
one
of
the
reasons
for
containers
is
to
divorce.
D
What
seth
needs
from
what
the
meadow
needs,
because
you
know
what
you
run
on
the
metal
is
not
necessarily
under
your
control,
and
you
know
you
can't
keep
updating.
You
know
the
os
and
especially
if
you're
running
centos,
which
you
know
like
from
centaur
6
to
7.
I
don't
think
there's
a
way
to
upgrade
in
place.
You
have
to
reimage
the
node
and
so
there's
a
cons.
D
You
know,
for
example,
I
think
from
seven
to
eight
there
might
be,
but
you
know
I
mean
there
so
there's
a
considerable
amount
of
work
there
and
it's
like
you
all,
have
other
things
to
do,
and
so
one
of
the
ideas
of
running
the
demons
and
containers
is
that
the
deployment
image
contains
everything
it
needs
and
it
doesn't.
You
know,
seth
doesn't
need
to
care
about.
What's
running
on
the
metal.
C
C
D
A
D
A
Well,
you,
you
must
have
heard
right,
both
vmware
and
red
hat,
while
vmware
is
trying
to
have
containers
within
the
vms.
Red
hat
is
trying
to
have
vm
within
the
container.
There
are
multiple
efforts
going
on
there,
and
at
least
the
pure
vms
have
already
caught
on,
and
containers
also
are
becoming
popular
right.
Openshift
is
catching
up.
A
So,
from
a
platform
standpoint,
what
I
was
thinking
was,
if
I'll
say,
definitely
put
this
on
the
google
docs
this
spreadsheet
and
give
share
it
with
you
all.
If
we
start
editing
those
questions
and
putting
our
ideas,
maybe
we'll
yeah
get
to
some
and
also
if
micah
you
are
re-en,
enabling
the
survey
it'll
help
both
in
terms
of
getting
our
content
list
right
after
that,
maybe
now
next
call
we
can
decide
hey.
A
These
are
the
list
of
questions
that
should
go
and
no
probably
there
we
can
identify
prioritize
them
and
they
should
be
the
most
critical
ones
that
should
go
and
the
rest
are
optional.
Whatever
we
are
going
to
decide.
D
Yeah
there's
some
yeah
I'd
like
to
see
like
for
question:
59
an
n,
a
option.
D
B
It
in
the
link
to
the
survey
it's
enabled
right
now.
It's
kind
of
annoying,
though,
because
you
have
to
answer
the
questions
to
get
through
everything
so
feel
free
to
put
in
bs
answers.
It
doesn't
matter
at
this
point,
but
I'm
going
to
see
if
I
can
give
you
all
access
to
the
actual
survey
interface
itself
like
the
to
edit
it
because
then
you'll
be
able
to
click
through
a
lot
easier.
So.
A
Oh,
I
sent
the
other
link,
I
think
mike,
which
was
let
me
see
here,
which
was
that
one.
D
A
D
C
C
It
almost
seems,
like
organization
type,
should
be
check
box
instead
of
radio,
so
it's
like
I'm
academic
and
research,
or
on
commercial
and
research.
A
I
sent
you
a
link
to
a
google
pad
see
if
you
can,
if
you
can
access
it
mike,
you
had
sent
this
and
we
had
put
that
initial
response
from
intel
like
what
we
had
seen
and
the
feedback.
D
Oh,
and
and.
D
B
D
D
D
You
know,
I
think
that
would
be
real
interesting,
but
I
need
for
somebody
who's,
not
super
micro
to
do
it
and
I
need
to
not
have
a
single
drive
vendor,
because
I'm
I
have
enough
problem
problems
with
with
drives.
Having
engaged
vendors
on
no
fewer
than
three
fatal
firmware
flaws
on
drives
yeah
and
yeah.
I'm
not
gonna,
invest
in
any
technology.
D
C
A
A
A
Which
one?
No
like
a
dm
cash.
A
C
A
A
D
A
Just
need
to
make
sure
the
next
steps
right.
We'll
basically
add
our
comments
to
the
content
of
questions
in
this.
I'm
just
about
to
send
this.
Google
docs.
D
A
And
then,
if
we
have
ideas
of
how
to
where
and
how
to
promote
it,
beyond
the
user
group
list,
the
ceph
users
and
the
blog
and
mike
is
going
to
ask
with
the
board
members
if
they
can
promote
it
within
their
arts
or
other
means
that
they
have
and
format.
I
think
again
going
through
the
survey,
if
you
think
that's
good,
we'll
continue
with
it.
If
not
put
in
some
comments
as
to
what
change
we
need.
B
D
B
Taking
also
I'll
be
working
on
trying
to
get
you
all
access
to
the
interface
to
edit
the.
C
C
B
It
might
make
sense
for
some
of
these,
where
we
got
in
the
condition.
If
this
particular
question
has
already
been
answered
yet
yeah
so
good
point.
A
So
like
where
we
discussed
last
time
micah
in
this
survey,
even
before
we
begin
with
this,
the
way
it
shows
up
now,
I'm
going
through
the
survey
link
that
you
sent
do
we
have
should
we
have
a
opening
page
that
would
have
some
categories
and
they
can
choose.
A
False
comment
that
if
we
have
a
that
first
page,
if
we
have
some
categories
in
the
cef
survey
page
instead
of
listing
the
questions,
you
provide
them,
an
option
of
you
know-
let's
say
configurations
deployments
or
plus
what
else
user
interface,
those
kinds
of
higher
level
categories
and
then
they'll
dive
into
those
set
of
questions.
B
Yeah,
so
I
do
remember
paul
bringing
that
up,
I'm
open
to
changing
how
he
changed
that
flow.
The
current
flow
is
somewhat
similar
to
where
it's
you
know
which
components
you
use,
and
then
we
show
the
pages
based
on
those
answers.
So
I'm
open
to
suggestions
on
that.
C
Right,
like
I
didn't
it's,
there
wasn't
a
big
like
I
want
to
answer
rbd
and
this
and
this
and
then
you
hit,
go
and
it'll
cycle
through
it's
it's
just
kind
of
it
feels
like
I'm
meandering.
I
know
you're
saying
this
logic
behind
it.
I
believe
there's
logic
behind
it,
but
it
doesn't
feel
that
way.
From
the
experience
point
of
view.
I
don't
know
when
I
hit
next.
I
have
no
clue
what's
showing
up
next,
where
first
question
was
hi,
I'm
education,
I'm
in
this
country,
okay,
maybe
the
next
slide
is.
Okay.
C
B
B
Should
also
be
on
the
the
spreadsheet
as
well
right.
C
B
Yeah,
I'm
looking
at
it
right
now
and
page
four
says
this
is:
what
platforms
do
you
use
rbd
interface
in
your
cluster?
Do
you
use
rgw
interface
in
your
cluster?
Do
you
use
a
file
system
in
your
cluster?
You
use
the
ceph
dashboard,
so
I
think
that's
all
we're
saying
is
just
move
those
questions
to
page
two.
A
No,
the
the
beginning
page
mike
as
you
open
this
survey
right.
It
takes
you
to
okay.
A
A
When
it
goes,
when
I
open
up
that
survey,
it'll
just
go
to
that
organization
type
right,
that
will
be
the
first
question.
B
A
Okay,
now
that
would
be
one
option
right,
if
I
understood
paul
correctly
last
time
before
was
basically
saying
in
that.
Instead
of
that
first
question
there
you
give
a
kind
of
a
menu
list
of
different
categories
of
questions,
right
self
configuration
self
deployments
or
those
kind
of
things,
and
then
we
click
on
that,
and
it
will
take
you
to
those
set
of
questions
belonging
to
that
category.
B
C
C
A
C
C
You
know
just
telemetry
turned
on
you
participate
in
it
and
then
there's
the
giant
list
of
countries
and
there's
wish
lists
and
things
there.
If
this
feels
more
like
it
was.
Oh,
my
god,
why
are
you
digging
so
much
phone
cute.
C
C
If
slide
two
was
instead
of
just
do
you
use
rbd
there's,
do
you
use
rbd?
Do
you
use
router's
gateway?
Do
you
use
the
iscsi
gateway?
Do
you
use
that
kind
of
stuff
on
slide?
Two,
then,
from
that
all
the
conditionals,
on
what
works?
If
I
said
yes,
I
use
our
use.
Rbd
then
page,
two
page,
three,
four
five
or
rbd
questions.
If
I
said
yes
to
readers
gateway,
what
what
number
was?
I
got?
Six
seven
and
eight
are
gonna,
be
those
questions,
but
it
it
feels
very
shotgunny.
B
I
see
what
the
problem
is,
I'm
because
I'm
looking
at
the
farm
logic
thanks
the
it's
a
if
display
the
question
only
if
certain
condition
is
met
so
rbd,
if
do
you
use
rbd
block,
is
equal
to
no
then
display
the
other
one,
which
is
odd,
oh
that
yeah.
So
that's
the
problem
right
there
that
ain't
right.
C
C
B
B
Yeah,
I
I
think
this
is
it's
really
going
to
help
once
I
figure
out
in
this
survey
interface,
how
to
share
you
all
how
to
edit
so.
A
A
Okay,
we
have
four
more
minutes
to
go,
and
so
what
will
be
our?
We
basically
know
our
next
steps
right
go
through
the
spreadsheet
and
the
user
survey
and
then
add
comments.
A
I
think
it'll
be
better
to
put
it
in
the
spreadsheet
right,
then
all
the
comments,
what
we
want
to
do
even
for
the
promotion
piece,
if
you
have
ideas,
just
put
it
in
there
and
basically
those
through
and
the
format,
will
automatically
get
covered
depending
on
what
we
decide
with
the
content
and
the
flow
correct.
A
So
so
those
would
be
the
three
things
the
first
one
is
basically
to
go
through
the
content
and
put
the
your
comments
in
the
spreadsheet,
both
in
in
the
whichever
category
you
want,
which
questions
you
want
and
then
in
which
bucket
you
want,
and
then
next
one
is
go
through
the
survey
itself
and
see
what
you
feel
about
the
flow
which
would
help
us
format
it.
You
know
in
which
way
in
whichever
way
we
want,
and
in
this
spreadsheet
add
some
comments
about
ideas
from
promoting
it
to
elsewhere.
A
Whichever
way,
you
know
any
ideas
on
that
with
that,
probably
you
know
we
are
covering
all
the
three
items:
content,
format
and
then
the
promotion
piece.
D
Here
I'm
talking
to
the
mute
again,
I'm
going
through
adding
comments
to
the
the
spreadsheet
shared
via
docs.google.
A
B
A
B
Yeah,
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
be
a
big
deal,
I'm
just
going
to
burn
it
up
amongst
other
agenda
items
but
and
then
all
like,
I
said
I'll-
also
work
on
trying
to
get
you
all
access
to
the
survey.
Admin
interface
thing
so
that
you
can
look
around
at
that
too
so
and
that
should
make
it
a
little
bit
easier.
D
A
A
B
C
B
Do
think
the
before
we
meet
next,
we
should
probably
be
focusing
on
like
the
the
ordering
of
the
questions
and
hopefully
removing
questions
or
editing
questions,
but
not
adding
more
questions.
B
Know
how
about
if
I
spend
time
to
go?
Look
at
other
surveys
like
the
openstack
survey,
and
you
know:
there's
plenty
of
successful
surveys
out
there.
So
go
look
at
them
and
see
how
many
questions
that
they're
asking
and
what
the
turnout
is.
I
know
that
isn't
exactly
what
our
turnout
is
going
to
be,
but
it
is
feeling
like,
if
an
amount
that
we
could
look
at,
that
people
are
willing
to
fill
out
an
idea.
A
All
right
then
looks
like
you
know:
we
have
what
we
want
right
for
the
next
call.
C
Yep,
okay,
I'm
looking
forward
to
see
if
I
can
get
in
the
the
admin
interface
to
the
survey,
because
I
want
to
see
how
it's
built.
You
know
that,
because
it
I
I
just
mentally
keep
coming
back
to
the
flow
of
you
know,
we'll
get
better
result
better,
not
results
better
uptake,
better
people
doing
it.
If
they
can
see
how
it's
going
to
be,
if
it
feels
cause
60
questions.
Isn't
that
terrible?