Central Florida Computer Society CFCS Main Meetings 2023, 13 Aug 2023

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The Central Florida Computer Society Main Meeting on Sunday, August 13, 2023.
1. Your Heart and Your Watch - Ron Brown MD
2. Find anything using Everything - Hewie Poplock

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https://www.voidtools.com/
https://www.techforsenior.com

A

Well, let me say hello to everyone: welcome to the central Florida computer Society main meeting for August 13th 2023 I attended the a premier presentation of Ron's program on v-fib and I was very impressed with it. We are all getting.

A

It just seems so timely because in my own world, I've run into so many things going on. You you've talked about your valve replacement, uh I, know a guy who he and his wife just came down with kovid. Just last week. One of our directors has had uh stench and bypass put in he's having problems with it. Another director who uh for years has been fighting with with a valve issue.

A

It affected his breathing and he has a TIA as a result of the the valve problem and it took them three three months to actually narrow it down. There was a battle that needed replacement. He just got out of the hospital last this past week.

A

Well, I myself had a TIA back in November was not allowed to drive for six months, I've gotten through that I'm driving I'm doing fine. It just seemed like, um if he's just something we all need to know more about so when I heard that the new version of smart watches are coming along, that will be able to track and report on v-fib I thought that was certainly something worth caring, so I'm excited about it.

A

At this point, I will thank you, Ron for making the time to review this, uh to replay your your presentation and then be available to answer questions on it as the next Doctor. That's something that we can all learn from. So thank you so much for being here and at this point, I will turn it over to you. Thank you.

B

All right welcome everyone, and thank you for coming uh today. I think the video is titled your heart, and your watch right is that the one you're gonna play soon. Yes, okay! Well um many of you know, but I'm, actually, a physician and a family physician and um looked after seniors for about 30 years. So I have a lot of experience in looking after people with heart problems and strokes, and so on and so forth.

B

So I've been very excited about smart watches, in fact, so excited I did a 19 videos about the health aspects of smart watches, so I have a lot of a lot of videos out there and the one you're going to play today. Your heart and your watch will um is, is a great one, but it is dated because it was a year ago that I made it. So a lot has changed. I wanted just to put everything in perspective so that you all are aware of.

B

What's what's happening, so I thought that um my view of smart watches and health aspects of smart watches is different than probably yours. It's different than the salesman trying to sell you a watch and it certainly is a lot different than reporters that are reporting on on health benefits of smart watches and so I'm gonna I wanted to just sort of give you my perspective on this.

B

To start with, and we can you can certainly answer I'll ask maybe I'll ask answer any questions after Huey plays the video, so I want to look at why you might want to purchase a smart watch and I'm going to tell you some of the reasons why you may want to, and some of the reasons why you may not one of the I have some feelings about.

B

um So the first thing is fall detection. If you are going to purchase a smart watch, because you think it's going to help you with fall detection I think actually it's a bad idea. In fact, I think if you use fall detection it can have a negative outcome on you, so I, don't I, don't think. That's a good idea and I can explain that later. If anyone's interested, then there's a lot of multi-factor things that happen when you use smart watches, they do a lot of interesting. Things like play.

B

Music play, Spotify, have stop, watches on them and do all sorts of interesting things, link to your phone and stuff like that, and that that has really not really health benefits. And then there are the health monitoring that occurs, and this may or may not have have benefits for you.

B

We can certainly talk about that as well, such as it measures you can measure your blood pressure, it does sleep tracking, it does oxygen levels and things like that that you can that you can get some instant Health, instant um numbers for for whatever you want to do with that right.

B

But the reason that I believe that anyone over the age of 60 should have a smart watch and I firmly believe that if you're over the age of 60 you should be wearing one is because of the ECG and the cardiac Factor on there, and this is more important because of what's happened in the past year and I'll.

B

Explain that so, if you go and you look at your um the the ECG Factor on on on watches, um it started way back, of course, with Apple watch and using a and before Apple licensed it from a company called uh cardiomobile. And this is uh this is a little device and they got into in bed with apple and they licensed the software from this device into the Apple watch, and this was maybe about 10 years ago, and they created this device on your watch called an ECG. So an Apple Watch did an ECG.

B

Now, what's an ECG like, what's the point of this well over the age of 60, there's two things that can happen: um you either you start to have one or two problems with your heart: either your heart can go too slow or your heart can speed up and go too fast, and the incidence of that happens goes up exponentially after the age of 60..

B

So, by the time you get to be 80, you know you might need a pacemaker or you might have had a stroke and there's all sorts of things that are going to happen to you and the incidence of that happening as I said, goes up exponentially.

B

So the going too slow is not a big factor, because you can pick that up with any any watch. You don't need a smart watch for that. Just set up any watch, so it measures your pulse and if you start to feel dizzy, you feel unwell. You look down, you see, your pulse is 50 or 45.

B

You need a pacemaker period right, so that's that's the slow horse, but then the fast pulse and when it gets really fast, this can be called atrial fibrillation and a lot of you have that or you've had testing for it and all that sort of stuff. So the very first time when Apple brought this out, they brought it out and they um and in the first Apple watches. What would happen is if you felt your heart, palpitating or feel a little unwell.

B

You then push the button on the watch and it actually did what we call an ECG and it told you if you had atrial fibrillation, you might have something else, but there it did. It told you if you had April atrial fibrillation and it recorded that as a PDF file, and you could go to your doctor and say: hey I felt unwell, look what I found, so that was that was pretty cool and, of course, um Samsung followed that and then Fitbit followed it and pixel has it, and that was sort of cool.

B

Well, that was that was all fine, but the next series of software upgrade occurred uh and what happened was is that is is probably about two years ago. The software changed and it continued well. It didn't continuously monitor. This is where everybody gets it wrong. It. The problem with you having to push a button to get to decide if you have atrial, fibrillation or not, is about 30 of each people who have atrial fibrillation, don't have any symptoms. So how are you going to push the button?

B

If you don't have any symptoms, so Apple brought out a system where it would it would monitor periodically it monitored your heartbeat on a continuous basis. You didn't have to push the button. It was listing in the background listening for atrial fibrillation, and so this was really cool, so now it was can and it wasn't continuously monitoring it. It sampled it through the day and mostly it sampled it at night. So this is why it's so important.

B

If you wear these devices, you need to wear it through the night, because that's when most of this sampling occurs to decide, if you have any problems or not, but it didn't do it on a completely 24-hour basis. Well, what happened in the last few months? Well, actually, the last four or five months is that Apple upgraded the software again, and this is really cool it now. Not only does it monitor you for atrial fibrillation on a continuous basis, but it also records and logs the activity that you're doing well.

B

Atrial fibrillation happens, and it tells you how long you've been in atrial fibrillation and gives you the time frame, and this is as Stan was saying, you're a lot of people are starting to get into heart problems and atrial fibrillation can be a uh sign of um impending heart problem, and so, if there's a big difference, if you're, if you're out for a walk and you're exercising a bit and you're doing a walk whatever, however fast you're going and you get a period of atrial fibrillation, that could mean something totally different than if you have a period of atrial fibrillation when you're sleeping right, so there's different.

B

So so as doctors, we need to know this information and the more information we can get is the better. We can help you with it, and this new feature on the Apple watch is: is really game. Changing so I I talk about that in this video. So what I'm going to do is let Huey play the video now and then we'll I'll answer any questions you have about it. Okay, here we all on yep I'll, take my uh I guess: I'll take the spotlight off.

B

If you want to play the video yep.

C

Go do that right now.

B

B

Your heart and your watch. What seniors must know there are new features coming to some smart watches that will make these a must for seniors in this video. We'll look at what these features are, what watches will be affected and why it is so important that you as a senior watch this video, it's Ron Brown with tech for senior, where we make videos to help seniors understand technology.

B

Today, though, I'm going to take my YouTube creators jacket off and put on my medical jacket, yes I'm, going to draw on the 35 years of experience, I've had looking after people as a family, physician and working in emergency departments. So today, I want to talk to you about some significant changes that are occurring to smart watches. That will make these invaluable for seniors.

B

So you need to know what a very common heart condition is called atrial fibrillation now in this graph you're going to see- and this is from my very popular saving your life with wearable technology. As you can see the in this graph, that over the age of 60, the incidence of atrial fibrillation goes up exponentially. This is so important for you to understand.

B

Let's have a look at actually what atrial fibrillation is so in this diagram you'll see that there are four chambers in a heart. There are the two upper chambers called The Atrium and they're. The two big Chambers at the bottom called ventricles, so the two Chambers in the heart at the top The Atrium contract down putting blood into the bottom big chambers that pump the blood out now the right ventricle goes to the lung, and the left. Ventricle, of course, is the big one that goes to the rest of the body.

B

So that's how the blood flows through our heart now in atrial, fibrillation, there's a problem, in other words those two Chambers in the top, those Atrium start to speed up and oh my gosh. They go awful fast. They get going at a rapid rate so that they're just quivering they're, not actually Contracting down. Now you're going to say. Oh my gosh, that's terrible you'd probably die, but that's not the case.

B

Most people with atrial fibrillation can live very normal lives. In fact, the problem is they don't even know they have. The condition there's a stop gap between those top two Chambers and the bottom Chambers, so the bottom Chambers just continue, keep Contracting down and it turns out that you don't need those top two Chambers to push blood down into those bottom, two Chambers.

B

So what happens is this is that atrial fibrillation occurs and it occurs when you don't even notice, you have any symptoms, that's the problem, so the top two Chambers, all of a sudden, go very rapid. They they're sort of fluttering and they're they're, not actually Contracting down.

B

Now what this does is this causes clots in those those big atrial Chambers, and the blood clots then can move down into the ventricles in the case of the left. Ventricle goes up into the brain and causes strokes, and that's why atrial fibrillation is the third cause of stroke.

B

So and people don't know they have it. So this is why it's so important that as a senior, we understand what atrial fibrillation is and that there can be no symptoms of that and you just end up with a disease that you don't want. You don't want to have a stroke right.

B

So how can watches help with this? What advantages would it be in purchasing a smart watch? Well, the three that I've talked about before and done. A number of videos about are, of course, the Apple watch, the Galaxy 4 watch and the Fitbit sense. Now. Why is this so important? Well, these three watches have a unique feature that they can do. Not only can they do what we call an ECG, but they can interpret the ECG and tell you if you have atrial fibrillation.

B

These have all had scientific studies behind them and all are approved by the FDA in the United States they're also approved in Canada and many other countries around the world, because they have the data to back up how they're doing this. So what happens is these watches can do an ECG, the ECG on the watch gets interpreted, and it will tell you immediately when we do the ECG. If you have atrial fibrillation or you don't so that's pretty cool, they will certainly do that and these watches work in conjunction with a cell phone.

B

So these watches, of course, are paired with a cell phone that this data is then stored in a PDF format on your smartphone. This, of course, can be shown to your healthcare provider. It can be emailed to your health care provider or, of course it can be sent to your cardiologist. The Studies have shown this is very accurate. Now you must understand that an ECG done on your watch is not like the ECG. We do in hospitals in the hospital. When we do a 12 lead ECG.

B

We can look at the past present and future of your heart. It gives us a lot of data. The ECG that we do on these smart watches only has one specific function, and that is to tell if you have or have not got atrial fibrillation. It doesn't tell you if you have a heart attack, it doesn't tell you if you need to go to the hospital. None of that is true. All is the ECG function does. Is it tells you if you have atrial fibrillation?

B

So let's look at how this would work. Well, you would maybe get a fluttering in your chest. Maybe to get a bit of shortness of breath, you start to feel a bit unwell. You then have to activate the ECG on your watch, so you there are many different ways you go about that. You could push the crown the face, there's a bunch of different ways. These watches work, but essentially you have to activate your watch to do the ECG.

B

So then the watch usually asks you to be quiet sitting on a seated in a spot, and then you can actually it will do the ECG for you. It then interprets it and says: hey you either have atrial fibrillation or you don't have atrial fibrillation and that you should check with your health care provider. Regarding this, it then says that, and it saves it to your smartphone as a PDF format.

B

Now the problem with this is, as I told you earlier, is that many patients don't know they have atrial fibrillation atrial fibrillation doesn't always cause symptoms.

B

So if you don't have any symptoms, how are you going to activate the watch to do an ECG? This does not continually monitor your heart and tell you if you have atrial fibrillation. Wouldn't that be great. If you could wear your watch and it would continually monitor your heart and tell you if your heart ever went into atrial fibrillation, that would be a game changer and folks. That is the game. Changer we're going to talk about today, all right.

B

This is great news and the continuous monitoring of your heart rate has been approved for the Apple watch in the United, States and Canada, and it will occur later. This fall with watch OS 9.. Now. The great feature of this is is it will work on the older watches, so you don't have to spend any more money. The watch the Apple watch you have now this will occur on it. It is just a software update.

B

This is likely going to occur with the Fitbit series as well as there is a big study that is just completing with the Fitbit line to confirm the same. The sophisticated sensors in the back of these watches on the on the back surface, monitor your heart and with the software change, we can monitor them on a 24-hour basis. This is is going to be a game.

B

Changer folks you'll be able to wear your watch 24 7, and it's going to tell you uh if you have had any history of atrial fibrillation, it's going to track your heart on a 24 7 basis. It's going to tell how long your heart was in atrial fibrillation, it's going to tell us the time the amount of time it was in atrial, fibrillation, and what time of day or week it was most active. This is valuable information for health care providers. When I was practicing medicine.

B

This would have been a game changer for me because, of course, what we want to do is know is if patients remain in atrial fibrillation after we've treated them for him. Some of the treatment for atrial fibrillation is to get you out of atrial fibration, whether it's through surgery or medication. We want you to be out of atrial fibrillation or, if you're going to stay in atrial fibrillation. You need to be anticoagulated, so we need to know what your heart is doing on a continuous basis, and this solves the problem folks. This is it.

B

This is what we've been waiting for at the American Heart Association in 2021 Google presented their Fitbit study to evaluate atrial fibrillation involving 450 000 people that took part the algorithm Google used correctly identified, atrial fibrillation in 98 of the time now. The exciting part about this uh was that it was done using a wide variety of Fitbit devices, not just the Fitbit sense.

B

It is possible with a software change that most of the Fitbit line can now continuously monitor you for atrial fibrillation, and we know that around 12 million people in the United States this year will have atrial fibrillation, and this certainly is more prevalent with advancing age, hypertension and obesity.

B

So it is so important that we identify these folks, so we can get treatment and, of course, prevent the complications, such as stroke, congestive, heart failure. So we expect to see this fall changes in the software to Apple and Google software. That will allow continuous monitoring for atrial fibrillation, which will be a big help in the medical management of this very serious condition. In summary, let's look at what we've learned today. The first thing is, you now understand the word atrial fibrillation and should know what it is.

B

The second thing you learned today is that it's common and it's even more common after the age of 60 and 16 million patients in the United States will have a period atrial fibrillation this year and three: is you now know that it is the third leading cause of stroke? The good news is, of course we have the Apple watch, the Fitbit sense and the Galaxy watch 4 that have been approved by the FDA and in Canada for the evaluation of atrial fibrillation and now on your watch with the click of a button.

B

You can now do an ECG which is interpreted and will tell you if you have atrial fibrillation or not, but after today's seminar you now know that a lot of people don't have symptoms with atrial fibrillation, but the good news is coming because Apple has now confirmed that with Apple watch. Os 9 will be able to continually track and monitor for atrial fibrillation on a 24-hour basis, and this will be available on most Apple watches. You won't have to go and buy a new watch.

B

You've also learned today that Google is following suit with this and I expect a big announcement, uh since their Fitbit study was done in 2021 I expect probably a big announcement with the introduction of their new Google watch. This fall. This will have the new version of Android Wear on it and we'll likely see a continuous monitoring as Apple has done. The technology is there I'm excited about this I think this is going to be a big feature.

B

Well, it's Ron Brown with tech for senior just before we sign off I just want to remind everybody. I did the statistics on our Channel lately and I find found that only one in 10 people are subscribed? If you want to keep updated on your health and get notifications when we make new videos, please click the notification And subscribe. We'll have many more videos about this continuous atrial fibrillation monitoring as it becomes available. This fall until we see you again have a great day.

B

So here I just wanted to, uh can you hear me yep, okay, so I gave that talk, and not that one, but one like it at our in Mesa when I was down there uh and at the end, I I said if anyone wants an ECG with my little portable ECG machine that I have here that we can do that, and- and there were to my amazement, 30 people stood in line. Well, I did well I did this.

B

Now there was one big tall, fella came and he was looking real pale and we took his pulse and it was 45 I sent him to the hospital in an ambulance all right and then out of the other 30 people forehead on diagnostatrial fibrillation. So it's common. This is just these are just people that at an auditorium where I'm giving a talk right. So that's it's. It happens all the time so open it up. Do you want to do questions now, or do you want to do yours? First.

C

Or yeah, let's see if there's some questions while it's on their minds, Murray your hand is up first.

D

Yes, um I'm not sure if uh you got my email message, but were quite a few issues. I saw this video, as you did, for tech for seniors, but the problem I have is, first of all, I can't see how to share it with my doctor in Canada. Secondly, I it looks like you've got to do something to set up the atrial fibrillation to detect it and um uh I don't see how to show any get any PDFs. So maybe you can address those issues so.

B

I put so Murray I put for everyone in the I knew you're going to ask that question so in the chat, I put the reference letter that outlines all those answers. It's a PD, it's a it's a document from Apple support and it's all the info. That information is there now one um in and then it Canadian doctors aren't set up quite the same as as the system is in the United States. So it's it's not easy.

B

So the the PDF is stored on your uh on your uh on your on your um not the watch, but that your phone, so so you so you you need to email. You need to somehow get that to your doctor, and that would depend on how your doctor, if your doctor, wants to receive it right, there's a there's, a varying difference of opinion, I, think I, think doctors are getting trained and better understand this technology, but a lot of them say that's Hocus Pocus. They don't want anything to do with it.

B

They have their way of doing things, and you know that's sad, but that is is often uh an attitude that you might get. So it depends on who you're dealing with, but it is stored. The ECG and information is stored on your uh phone and it is stored in the health app under and it is a PDF and the the link I left in the chat uh is is the Apple document that will tell you I'll answer all those questions.

C

um Marilyn, you have your hand up. Yes,.

E

Does it also record a slow heartbeat.

B

Yes, uh well it, it will notify you um the now. It depends which watch you're talk. Are you talking about the Apple watch? Yes,.

E

B

um It will, it will note you can set the parameters that you want and it will notify you if your heart rate it goes below whatever you set is your is your: is your lower I would set it at 60? Anything under 60 I would I would want to know, uh want to know and have your doctor talk to your doctor about it. You might even drop that down to 50, but certainly um seniors. Don't do well with slow heart rates because it means you don't have enough blood pumping up to the brain.

B

So uh it is, it is important to know, and the Apple watch uh does do that very and any watch any any watch that records your pulse will will probably do that. It's it's a very calm thing. You don't need an expensive watch to check a slow pulse.

E

A

C

Stephanie your hands up.

E

uh Yes, uh if you were buying an Apple Watch, do you need to have an Apple phone? Yes,.

B

Yes, you do, unfortunately,.

F

B

The devices you need now I might just to follow that through uh I. Think it's really important that everyone understands um that that yes, the Apple watch needs to be paired with with with an iPhone and- and you would all understand that you can't use an Apple watch with a Samsung phone right. I. Think everybody understands that. Where is a Fitbit, you can use a Fitbit on an apple, an iPhone or you can use a Fitbit on. You can use Fitbit on any phone right.

B

You got to be careful when you get to Samsung, because Samsung the health app in Samsung. You need a Samsung phone to pair it with the Samsung watch to use the health apps. So you have to be very careful with that and and I often uh people make that mistake where they buy a Galaxy Galaxy watch and they have a pixel phone. So it uh it doesn't. It doesn't sort of work that well for the health app. So you have to be careful with that. I.

E

Have a pixel phone? Yes,.

B

Yeah, you have the pixel wall, so you know so you know that's well you. You can't use an Apple Watch right. That's for.

E

Sure can I use either of the other ones they're approved.

B

You can't use the Samsung, but you you can use the pixel. You can use the Fitbit, the pixel watch, probably um if you but there's a pixel 2 coming out, that's coming out in a three or about three months, and that would be the one that I think that it's going to have some better uh better features on it and I would just hold off uh until the next pixel watch comes out.

B

But you would use the pixel watch to pair it with your pixel phone or a Fitbit or a Fitbit watch would work if a Fitbit sense would work as well.

C

Thank you, okay, Walter your hands up.

F

Yeah does the new Galaxy watch have this feature which monitors continuously.

B

You know that's a very good question: um I believe it does uh you're talking about the six say, the Galaxy watch, six yeah.

G

The answer to your question is yes, yes,.

B

G

You go thanks, drew it.

E

G

It was I was raising my hand to pop that that information in right yeah, but.

B

Be careful the.

G

New sticks does yeah.

B

But be careful because the question the real question Drew, is what galaxy phone will work with the six and what? What is that? Sorry and you may need the Galaxy 5 Flip or you may need one of the the latest Galaxy phones for that to work. I, don't know the answer to that. I.

G

Don't know the answer to that either, but I do know be careful with that. One I do know that they did not make it retroactive so that if you there's no software update for the four, for example, that will give you 24 hour monitoring right now.

B

The interesting part about it is, is that the Fitbit line um it was. It was amazing, all the Fitbit line. You know the software was there all the time and they turned it on. So even people with older fitbits were able to activate the ECG feature on their on their uh on their on their watches. So um anyway, you'll have to look specifically um Walter. Do you have an iPhone.

F

Yeah, we have a flip four and we also have a Galaxy s23 Ultra.

B

So the I'm sure the s23 would take the the new um would take the um uh the the six. You know the the Galaxy six, the the watch six I'm sure it would I'm sure it would work. The s23 is a real new phone.

B

So I'm sure that's that's the case. Thank.

C

You thank you thanks, Walter Stephanie, you have another question. Yes,.

E

uh Do you get a negative thing that says that you don't have afib but you're over 80 or something? How much do you have to continue to use the watch.

B

Well, I mean what what they're trying to do is we're trying to identify. Do you have atrial fibrillation? uh Well it actually, with the brand new software that I mentioned that's going to track how long you've been in atrial fibrillation, there's, probably two types of people that will use it. There's the type of people that don't know they're in atrial fibrillation.

B

You know they were and it actually asks you that when you enroll in the in the system, it says you want to know, there's some people who have no history of atrial fibrillation at all non-zero, and they they just want to make sure they don't get it or don't have it right and that's that's one type of person.

B

The other person with this new updated software is, um is someone who does have atrial fibrillation, but they want to see how controlled it is because it's going to monitor your heart for a long period of time, for you know 24 hours and it's going to give you the tracking history.

B

um That is really valuable information and that's for people who do have atrial fibrillation. So the the there is now an expansion ended role for these devices right because it's they're, smarter.

C

Yeah Rhonda go along with what she just asked uh and it came to my mind while she was asking that is maybe she's she's thinking. That's the only reason you're going to want to watch uh for health reasons, but there are other things it does as well correct. It.

B

Does but um it does um and as I mentioned earlier, I'm not sure that those are reasons specifically to go and spend 400 on a watch. I think the key part of this is the atrial fibrillation issue and remember: the watch isn't going to tell you if you're having a heart attack, it's not going to tell you to go to the hospital. It's just there to that. Ecg feature is only there to monitor whether or not you have atrial fibrillation. That's it right. There is no other thing that it does.

B

It doesn't, doesn't tell you anything else about your heart. Just do have, or do you do not have atrial fibrillation.

C

Dan your hand is up yes.

A

um Leaky valve I believe is related to the atrial fibrillation. Did you just now say that the watch will not keep track of how that is how the leakage is is born and whether you need to be thinking about replacing the valve.

B

I want the only thing that the only the only thing that the watch is going to do is tell you if you do or do not have atrial fibrillation now, if your valve is leaking in the vet and the heart is getting bigger and it's getting sicker, then it can flip into atrial fibrillation more often, and it can be a symptom of a worsting heart problem.

B

Okay, so if, if all of a sudden you have a leaking valve and your heart's getting bigger and all of a sudden atrial fibrillation starts popping up on your watch, then that could mean that that you are um that you well, it would certainly mean you should go and have it have it checked out with your doctor right.

C

Are there any other questions.

E

It would be nice if you could just have a test, and you only needed to borrow it for a couple of days or something like that and then find that you know not. No one in your family has had afib and none of them have died of Strokes or anything right.

B

The only the only issue is it's an ongoing process right, you know, as the as the clock ticks and as you get older, then the chances of it happening go up as I said in that diagram exponentially. So the chances at 60 are are a certain statistic, but then the chances by the time you get 70 of more than doubled right and the chances at 80 have you know has just goes up exponentially. So it is an extremely common problem.

B

As we get older and the as I said, 30 percent of people don't know they have it, and this is where we end up with people who have had strokes and they ended up in the emergency department with a stroke and they they have no idea why they've had the stroke and oftentimes that's because they had atrial fibrillation and didn't know so it is.

B

It is and that's why you know if I went around and asked people who had had Strokes if, if I could have, if you had a bottom watch and a and a um and a phone for 1500 bucks, would it would you have done that and anybody that I've talked to and and posed, that question would have paid thousands and thousands of dollars to have something done that so that they didn't have to have a stroke. I mean it it once you have a stroke and you realize the implications of that.

B

You wouldn't pay anything so that you don't have that right and I. Think I think you have to look at it like that. Well,.

E

I know, but if you're already in your 80s, you know, maybe that curve is not going to get any that much higher.

B

It's going to keep going up and you know if you look at tech for senior. You look at all the group that we run our Monday show on we're all over 70 well, except for me, I'm 71, but but you know they're all over over that age group way over that age group, so they're all functioning really well, we have a lot of fun and we plan on doing it for a very long time right.

B

So what would really be awful if any one of those people had a stroke, it would sort of really screw things up right, Healey.

C

Yep and I and I'm up there too yeah.

B

C

All right, I've got a 10 minute. Video on Windows a program called everything. If you're not running it, you should, if you are, uh you might see that it's got something in there that you may not have uh known about it. I'm gonna play it and we'll have a couple of questions about it and then we'll call it a day. So let me go ahead uh Stan unless there's something else you want to interject before I. Do that.

A

No I'm fine, with uh going ahead with the everything very impressive okay.

C

Today, I'm going to show you how to find anything using everything on a PC, I'm, Huey poplock, that's right, I like to find files quickly. Windows doesn't really give us a chance to do so. I'm going to use a program that I've talked about many times, but I've never really demonstrated in detail.

C

We're going to try to do that today, using everything by void tools, you use, Windows, search or Cortana you'll, find a few files on your system and then it'll say well, let's go to Windows Explorer and see what we can find when you do that, and you put in your search, you will find that it takes quite a bit of time. I have three screen captures here: the first one about five minutes in the second one about nine minutes in and the last one about 30 minutes in when it finally finished.

C

So it takes a long time just to find one term when you're searching with Windows Explorer, when you are searching using everything as soon as you open it, it's ready to go and it finds everything within a second. This is the website voidtools.com, where you can download the installer, where you can download a portable version as well. Let's take a look at a live demo. Let's open up everything as soon as we do it's there and we can start searching. So, let's use the term CFCs.

C

To search- and it now has found 1540 objects and it does the folders first and as we scroll down you can see, there's a lot of items there as we scroll down. Then we get the files. There are some that are Excel, spreadsheets and PDF files and all kinds of files, and we can sort in several ways and we're going to take a look at some different ways in which we can sort. First, we are sorting alphabetically with the folders at the top. If we click the name, we reverse that.

C

So now we're starting at the Z under the files. Then we go to the folder, so we can search alphabetically from A to Z Z to A. We can sort by the path, and then we can reverse that and it will do the G and C and I'm going to talk about how you set that up in a moment you can do by size, so you can have the largest file at the top. In this case, it's two gigabytes or you can go to the smallest.

C

Those are folder, so there's not sizes, but then we start at 1K or you can go by date, modified to the date that I'm recording this, which is the 7th of August or you can reverse it and go to the oldest file using the CFCs by folder is 2012. The oldest file by itself is 1998. On my hard drive now there's different views. You can have right now we're looking at the details. You can have medium thumbnails, you can have large thumbnails and you can have extra large thumbnails.

C

Let's look at different items that you can search. You can search everything which is what we're set at now, but you can only look at audio files, compressed files, documents, executables, just folders, just pictures or just videos. Another thing that we can do under view. We can have a preview window.

C

That means, if we click this, we see a preview of it. So you can adjust that.

C

But you can also adjust your column sizes, so we can have all the information and see it here. You see the ability to change and it changes very quickly. There's a couple of things: I want to show you under Tools and under options.

C

First, one is folders: I have a d Drive, which is an SD card, and G is my Google Drive, so I can search my Google Drive as well, by adding it under folders and I can exclude certain things: I don't want to show hidden files and folders I, don't want to show any system file and in most cases, when I'm looking for a file I'm not looking for something it's going to be either a hidden or a system file if I'm sure that that's what a file is that I'm looking for, then I might want to uncheck those but I'm going to keep them checked, I'm going to say: oh, it does take a few seconds when you make that now it's sorting them- and it's done so now it doesn't have any of the hidden files or any other system file.

C

So if I type in Huey, you will see all of the folders that have Huey, but let's now search for any video files that have my name in and you will see that there are several they're right there. I want to look at any document that has my name in it. You will see that even documents, if I click on it I, will get sometimes takes a few seconds for it to load the file to show you. The preview I want to look for pictures and then I can go back to search everything.

C

Let's say: I want to find Chromebook.

C

You can see I have a lot of files. There.

C

And if I wish, I only want to find on G I want to look at my Google Drive, and you can see that it shows everything. That's on my Google Drive, so I put a space there in the word screen. I will see the word screen and only those items that are on my Google Drive. So people ask can I search my Google Drive well.

C

This is a way which you can search your Google Drive, okay, you're not going to do it from your Chromebook, but you can do it from your PC find what you want know where it is and then go to your Chromebook and then work with it.

C

Let's look at a few ways that I use everything first I want to find some files that I know were in the folder when I was working on website of the week and as I start to type in website, you'll notice that it keeps changing with each letter and as I continue to type it found all of the website of the weeks I'm looking for something in 13, so I'm going to come down here to that folder and it could be even a file where that folder is but I'm going to find that folder and I'm going to right.

C

Mouse click and I'm going to come up here to open path, I'm going to click on open path.

C

It opens up my Windows Explorer to that folder and all of the files and subfolders that are there. Then I can find the file that I'm looking for I'm. Looking for a file that I created in a program called Microsoft, Publisher I know all of the files that publisher creates, are DOT Pub. So if I hit the star or asterisk dot p, u b, it will find the asterisk is a wild card, so it'll find any file that has the extension Pub. So I can come down here.

C

I can find what I'm looking for and I know that it's that file- or it probably is I- can tell to open the path.

C

It opens the folder that has that file in it and then I can pick and choose which one I want to use on. I lose a file, I might save it and can't remember where I saved it to right after I saved it or I, was clicking and dragging a file and dropped it in the wrong place. Now, how would I find it?

C

Well, let's give an example: I'm going to open up a web page I'm still on vid tools and, let's say I want to find support and everything and there's something on here that I want to capture so I do a screen capture, I haven't used a program called snagit. You may use something else, but this is what I'm, using so we're going to take this information, we're going to tell it okay, grab it and save it and save as and we'll say, test number one and I say: save and I close it saved it.

C

I close this I didn't pay attention to where I was saving it. So how do we do that? Minimize this? We called it doesn't matter what we called it. Maybe I don't remember what I called it. What am I going to do, I am going to look under date modified, but I know that I saved it as a JPEG. So let's first tell it.

C

We want to look for pictures now, we're going to go to date, modified we're going to sort find the last one and there it is right at the top, because it's the last picture that I saved I just click on it. I can look at the preview and that's what I wanted and here is where it is, and so I can now right. Mouse click and open the path.

C

Okay, it's in the articles for the blog it's for this article, but maybe that's not where I want it. I can place it wherever I want now that I know where it is and I can even rename it. If I didn't like the title that I was using so very quickly, you can find what you last saved, even if you can't remember the name or where you saved it, to how to find anything using everything on a PC, I'm, Huey Poplar.

C

Great program, I use it all the time.

C

Any questions before we uh call it a day: Murray yeah.

D

For Ron I I looked at that article and it does exactly it says exactly what I thought it says. It says you can't set up af uh history unless you have been diagnosed with atrial fibrillation. So what do I do? Can I not I mean, can I? Is there any way to get any of the history? Like my you know, I sometimes get high heart rate notices, but how can I capture that and send it to my doctor.

B

Summary, that's it's two things that you're looking at here. The watch will will measure it. There's two types of people: one is no history of atrial fibrillation, so you will not qualify for the atrial fibrillation history because you don't have a history. You don't have atrial fibrillation, so you'll be the person who just uses the regular, 24-hour monitoring to looking for atrial fibrillation.

B

If you had atrial fibrillation, then you would enroll as a person with atrial fibrillation and then it would. You would be storing your history of atrial fibrillation there. Now what you're? What I think you're getting confused about is, if you you're so you're in the first category, you don't have atrial, fibrillation or.

D

I, don't I don't have it diagnosed, I might have it without knowing it, but.

B

You don't, but you you had. You, don't have a diagnosed so you're the type of person. So what will happen is is that the Apple watch will will. If it does pick it up, then it'll say: hey Murray.

B

You have atrial fibrillation it'll store that information in your health, app in in the form of a PDF, okay, okay, but.

D

B

Not in the atrial fibrillation history, because that's that's the separate part of it. If you have atrial fibrillation.

D

If I ever get it while I'm wearing the watch, it will for me, even though I don't have that set up.

B

Yeah so you're you're, so you because you don't have a diagnosis of that. Yet then you're you you're you're in the first group of people, okay,.

D

Now that but I do get high heart rate notices, sometimes well.

B

You can set that you can set that. However, you want you, there's a there's, an alert that you can set and you can set it whatever you and your physician figure is is high, so you might say well, uh I'm gonna set it at 140 and anything over 140 I'll be notified and that's that's very easy and.

D

Mine is right now set at 120, but my. um But how can I send when I have those things to my doctor, because I think he'd like to see them but I, don't know how to send.

B

That yeah um I don't think, there's any specific way of doing that. I'm, not sure I, don't think, there's any specific way of doing that. You just have to you'd, have to I'm, not sure if it documents a high rate I, don't think it I'm, not sure if it puts it in there or not I, don't know the answer that.

D

Well, I mean I can see it on my on my.

F

B

D

I can't see I mean I, suppose I can do screenshots, but that's.

C

Yeah, that's what I was just going to suggest. If all else fails you can do screenshots, but I would check the software that you're running and see if there's uh and do a search on that software, it might be storing it somewhere. So you can just get that file well,.

D

You can you can't save it as an extra ml5, well actually as a zip file of XML files, but that's only all of the data and you can't select any particular part and it's a file that is extremely hard to read. There's there's! No! So far, I haven't been able to find any. There was a some kind of software that was available a while ago. That was uh was supposed to be able to read the XML files, but that disappeared, and there doesn't seem to be anything now. Yeah.

B

And Murray there is a there is a whole bunch of excellent YouTube videos on exactly what you're asking so again, if you, um rather than making it real complicated. Just just have a look at the videos and it'll. Tell you exactly how to do.

D

It and I've looked about 20 of them.

D

If you know one that works, I'd appreciate your emailing it to me all.

C

Right: okay, Stan, you have your hand up.

A

Yes, early on in your presentation, you you sorted by date and when you said the newest, it came up with August 7, and you said yes, that's the day that I did this presentation. I thought the premier was.

C

Older that was August 7 2022., oh.

A

Okay, that had me confused yep. It was a year ago, yeah, great yep,.

G

Drew um I just wanted to let everybody know that uh after Huey did his initial presentation on everything and introduced it to me. I became an in everything uh person as well.

G

um About a year ago, I wrote a um a guide, a self-help guide on some of the more advanced topics of how to use void tools. Everything and I put that in the uh the chat session, so that, if anyone wants to look at the article that I wrote to read more in-depth information about everything they can do so.

G

B

Also use it after he showed me I as well, use it all the time now and it saved my bacon so many times. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Huey. It's.

D

G

B

A great program you can't be without it.

C

Yeah I have it on my uh taskbar and I. Just click the button and I find things very quickly what I need and- and lately it's there's a few things that slipped my mind, and it just helps me remember all right on that note Stan. uh If you want to do a wrap up and we'll call it a day. It's been a nice long day, but I I hope everybody got something out of it and enjoyed it and uh glad you spent the day with us.

A

Thank you. Likewise, um I I appreciate Ron's efforts and I learned more seeing it again about the atrial, fibrillation and uh I'm I. Don't have a smart watch and I'm gonna wait and see what comes up with it. I do use Android, so I'll have to be careful with that, but uh that that was very greatly appreciated and Huey.

A

Total Commander has a search function and that I used to think that was wonderful, but this everything is much much faster. I appreciate your efforts on that. So thank everyone for joining us uh stay safe and we'll see you all next time.