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From YouTube: CHAOSS App Ecosystem Working Group October 25, 2022
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A
Haven't
completely
finished
it
but
I've
started
it.
I
have
I've
asked
for
some
help
from
Kenny
to
do
that
and
then
hopefully
we
can
go
back
and
and
fill
in
for
quite
an
academy.
So
oh
actually
I
should
ask
you
know
how
did
Academy
go?
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we've
met
since
then
right,
I
think.
Well
last
we
met
a
cat.
Academy
was
just
coming
up,
yeah
and
you're
going
to
attended
next
week.
B
C
B
D
So
so
do
you
have
the
metrics
report
that
was
for
the
Linux
app
Summit
right
tree
yeah.
A
I
I
have
the
raw
I
just
filled
in
the
parts
that
I
can
and
then
I
did.
Let
me,
let
me
see.
D
I
think
we
can
do
something
similar
for
for
chaoscon.
We
it's
been
a
month
since
chaoscon,
North,
America,
no
Europe
this
year
and
I
talked
with
Elizabeth
briefly,
she
said
should
be
very
happy
to
pilot
our
new
metrics
reporting
template
that
we
have
you
yeah,
and
so
we
can
get
it
started,
send
it
to
her
and
then
she
can
give
feedback
and
help
us
improve
it
and
so
Shalom.
For
for
background,
we
have
been
working
on
metrics
that
event
organizers
can
report
and
we
we
published
those
but
the
event.
D
Organizers
from
our
conversations
that
we
have
with
them
are
having
you
know.
They
need
a
little
bit
more
help
and
support
to
actually
report
them,
and
that's
what
we've
been
working
on
the
last
couple
weeks
to
create
a
slide
template
where
we
have
metrics
and
then
you
can
just
fill
in
the
the
values
for
the
metrics
and
the.
D
What
you
might
call
it
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
remember.
I
was
going
with
this
sorry.
A
A
You
I
I
I
need
some
assistance.
Can
you
shared
this
for
me,
my
my
zoom
on
Wayland
does
not
does
not.
Let
me
share
I
have
to
I
didn't
because
it's
a
the
app
that
I
ran
to
zoom
app
instead
of
the
running
it
from
chrome.
So
that's
the
report.
A
D
A
A
This
template
it's,
it
is
I
love
the
colors
things
like
that.
I
I
did
to
let
the
speakers
I
I
didn't
know
about
the
percentage.
I
like
I
said:
I
did
what
I
could.
A
D
A
I
want
to
say
it
was
like
400
I,
just
gotta
checked.
Yeah
did.
A
D
D
B
A
Definitely
live
stream,
yeah
yeah,
but
but
the
talks
were
are
put.
Individual
talks
are
put
on
YouTube
so
and
I
didn't
track
previous
years,
so
we'll
just
have
to.
A
A
A
You
know
so
Ruth
talked
at
this
conference
too,
so.
B
Did
you
say
yes,
I
was
talking
to
you?
Yes,
you
you
gave
me
attack
that
I
should
redesign
the
templates
right.
C
B
That
conversation
we
had
okay,
yeah
no
is
it
is
it
was
that
is
then
what
to
do
from
this
call
because
I
didn't
understand
what
I
was
supposed
to
do.
If
I
was
supposed
to
do
Graphics
or
something
because
you
said
I
should
redesign
and
when
they,
when
they
say
design,
it
means
like
bringing
in
new
colors
new
ships.
I,
don't
know
if
that's
the
idea
of
redesign
Oh,
you
mean
we
arranged.
I
didn't
really
understand
what
she
expected
me
to
do.
In
our
last
conversation,
yeah.
D
Yeah
happy
to
to
clarify-
and
this
is
really
an
idea-
you
know,
if
you're
looking
for
something
to
help
us
with
and
you
are
in
the
user
experience
and
more
visual
space.
This
is
something
where
we
really
could
use
some
help.
D
So
what
we're
talking
about
is
this
slide
template
or
that
Shri
was
using
to
report
on
the
Linux
app
Summit,
the
design
here
with
these
colors
and
these
shapes
and
here
the
layout
of
the
slides?
All
of
this
is
based
on
a
previous
report
where
we
did
not
create
this
design.
A
D
D
D
It's
the
so
when
I
think
of
template,
I
am
thinking
of.
Let's
see,
does
this
even
have
it?
No
I
don't
have
permission
to
make
any
changes
here,
but
it's
the
the
color
scheme,
it's
the
layout.
You
know
how
much
space
is
it's
it's
the
shapes
here.
It's
the
font
size,
it's
the
the
collective
impression
that
a
slide
deck
provides.
While,
yes,
it's
only
text.
B
D
A
lot
of
things
that
we
can
change
here
and
then
that
we
have
this
blue,
this
green,
this
purple
we're
not
sold
on
any
of
this.
All
of
this,
you
know
can
go
and
we
can
have
something
completely
different.
There
is
a
chaos
template
that
we
have
I'm
gonna,
try
to
find
that.
A
The
I
think
what
one
thing
to
note
is
that
a
lot
of
conferences
have
their
own
visual
brand.
A
The
template
shouldn't
be
overly
complex.
You
know
I
guess,
because
it
might
be
replaced
by
the
conferences
branding
itself
so
versus
what
I
would
do
with
this
talk.
I
went
with
these
slides
is
to
give
it
to
potential
sponsors
to
kind
of
show
the
impact
of
the
conference
and
so
cool.
So.
D
Yeah,
well,
we
also
have
is
this
slide
template
for
chaos
with
these
circles
and
these
lines
we
are
not
married
to
it.
It's
really
anything
can
go
the
goal.
The
ultimate
goal
is
that
we
have
a
slide
deck
like
it
says
here
that
event
organizers
can
take,
and
then
they
can
say,
Okay
I
want
to
modify
the
about
page.
Okay,
I
want
to
show
these
quick
facts
and
then
they
add
in
their
numbers
and
then
maybe
they
put
it
in
their
own
template.
Maybe
they
it
just
gives
them
something
to
start
working
with.
B
Okay,
I
understand
now,
but
I
didn't
research
tax,
just
any
tax
here.
Do
you
have
anything?
Do
you
need
any
need
of
a
researcher.
B
B
A
D
A
Yeah
we
see
this
as
sort
of
an
iterative
kind
of
thing
right
I,
you
know
you're,
probably
where
very
well
aware
of
this
storm
is
viewing
doing
this
kind
of
work.
So,
like
maybe
start
with
a
proposal,
what
what
you
think
and
then
we
can
kind
of
work
from
there.
A
It's
it's
a
it's,
a
very
I
think
for
something
like
this.
It's
very
reform,
what's
what's
important
for
us,
are
the
content
of
these
slides,
like
we.
So
these
these
content,
these
these
metrics
come
from
a
sort
of
Google
doc
that
we've
all
worked
together
on,
and
so
these
very
important
metrics
that
we
want
to
show
to
the
community
at
large,
and
so
in
terms
of
design
I
mean
as
long
as
we
have
those
metrics
in
there
we
can.
A
And
we
have
a
few
articles
on
opensource.com.
They
could
read
as
well
that
kind
of
talks
about
the
work
we
did.
D
So
I
know
this
is
a
lot
shalom
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
clear
Direction
either
it's
really
open.
If
this
is
something
you
want
to
work
on
great,
if
you
have
your
own
ideas
great,
if
you
want
to
help
us
and
this
really,
you
can
shape
what
what
this
is
with
your
contribution,
with
your
experience
and
expertise
there,
you
don't
have
hard
requirements.
D
A
Yeah
it
my
I
guess
my
only
feedback
is
I
kind
of
wish.
We
gathered
our
metrics,
like
that
I
work
with
the
conference
to
make
sure
that
we
were
looking
out
for
it.
So
it's
easy
to
extract,
because
what
day
I
don't
always
gel,
but
what
we
want
to
collect
and-
and
so
that
was
my
bad
is
I
had
it
should
have
work
with
them
a
little
bit
more
closely
and
make
sure
that
they
have.
A
An
idea
of
this
is
what
we
want,
so
they
don't.
They
don't
integrate
these
things
into
this
conference
right
so
immediately.
We
do
that
inquatic.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
for
our
app
ecosystem
conferences,
that
we
are
putting
this
in
the
pipeline
and
make
sure
it's
an
important
thing.
A
We
should
invite
it
next
time
and
see
if
we
can,
because
he's
involved
in
sorry
that
got
him
involved.
A
I
said
he's
he,
so
he
I
I
got
him
involved
in
Siegel
too
so,
and
but
Seco
is
another
conference
that
we
could
apply
this.
This
metric
sure
that
as
discriminating
this
upcoming,
although
I
have
to
gingerly,
go
back
there
because
I'm,
even
though
I'm
on
the
organizing
committee
I've
had
zero
time
for
any
conference
work,
my
job
at
Intel
is
has
been
sucking
up.
Everything.
A
Yeah
it
does,
but,
but
but
interestingly
enough,
we're
doing
a
lot
of
the
same
things
that
we're
doing
here
in
terms
of
collecting,
metrics
and
stats,
and
they
had
review
scores.
They
have
they
aggregate
these
scores
from
people
who
put
feedback
and
then
come
up
with
some
kind
of
score
that
how
much
the
da
attendees
like
it,
you
know,
kind
of
thing,
so
that
was
one
one
thing
I
saw.
That
was
different
from
what
we
do
here
in
terms
of
just
for
everybody
else.
A
A
So
it's
so
we
try
to.
We
try
to
collect
all
these
things
like
registered
versus
people
who
showed
up
and
and
whatnot.
So
some
similar
similar
things.
D
A
Well,
the
challenge
at
the
moment
is
that
one
API
is
very
primarily
a
an
Intel
project.
Yeah.
D
A
So
what
or
it's
perceived
very
much
as
an
Intel
Intel
thing
and
where
we're
going
right
now
from
an
Intel
perspective,
we
want
to
get
out
of
that,
get
out
of
that
perception
and
so
they're
already
working
on
open
governance
for
one
API
and
for
those
who
don't
know
one
API
is
a
open
ecosystem
to,
to
put
it
bluntly,
get
people
out
of
proprietary
Cuda
and
into
heterogeneous
Computing,
using
an
open
ecosystem
so
for
AI
and
HBC
and
whatnot
they
want
to.
A
They
want
to
use
things
like
Intel,
Intel
or
AMD,
or
this
five
all
these
things.
So
so
we
can't
have
one
one
company
being
dominant,
so
the
idea
is
to
start
giving
giving
up,
control
and
and
doing
a
pan
governance
model.
Interestingly
enough,
they're
not
they're,
not
doing
the
Linux
Foundation
route.
So,
okay,
usually
that's
what
companies
do
to
grow
the
large
foundation
so
but
they're
trying
to
do
their
own
thing.
D
So
their
own
thing,
open,
infra,
just
announced
their
their
service
bundle
for
projects
might
be
another
interesting
host
to
not.
A
D
D
Yeah,
but
one
of
the
things
that
they
just
started
doing
is
they
opened
up
their
doors
to
say,
hey,
we
can
host
your
project
as
well.
Okay,
help
built
up
you.
C
D
They
have
these
four
opens
that
are
their
core
values
and
I
I,
really
like
their
four
opens
with
you
know,
open
source,
as
all
the
source
code
needs
to
be
open,
then
open
design
saying
we're
not
going
to
be
controlling
the
road
map,
but
right,
open,
12
feedback,
open
development.
C
D
A
A
Let
me
let
me
send
them,
let
me
send
send
them
some
notes.
There
we're.
A
Gold
member,
so
so
that
that's
a
that's
a
cool
thing
yeah,
so
they
got
Airship
climate
containers.
D
A
They
are
interesting
yeah.
You
should
see
it's
good
to
be
able
to
use
things
if
you're
already
paying
for
it,
but
I
think
at
the
moment
all
we're
doing
is
hosting
a
spec
and
and
but
I
want
to
be
able
to
move
to
a
working
group.
That
is
not
doesn't
end
up
the
goal
so
right
now,
that's
that's
what
I'm
doing
right
now
right
it's
accepting
papers
and
things
like
that,
but
it's
an
old
teams.
D
A
A
A
Please
my
man,
my
go-to
guy.
C
A
A
We
can
make
that
as
a
working
thing
if.
B
A
D
D
B
A
Before
Boston,
yes,
Bob
Simmons
back
in
person
and
you're
back
I
go
so.
A
B
Nothing,
nothing
I,
just
it's
just
a
random,
then
I
wanted
to
see
that
one
down
to
be
on
your
podcasts
I
guess
on
your
podcast.
That's
random
does
not
relate
to
the
conversation.
D
Thank
you,
okay,
so
did
you
want
to
take
an
action
item
to
work
on
the
slides.
B
Yes,
yes,
I
would
want
to
help
redesign
the
template
or
realign
the
templates
yeah,
but
I
don't
know.
Do
we
have
deadlines,
can
I
know
the
timelines
and
all
these
things,
because
I
am
currently
I'm
currently
resuming
school
and
this
week
will
be
a
bit
busy.
So
if
I'm
doing
any
work
to
be
next
week,
also
I
don't
know.
A
Earlier,
if
you,
if,
if
you
want
less
time.
A
We
could
we
could
do
how
about
how
about
you
give
us
how
about
you
give
us
a
polymer
preliminary
thing
on
the
16th
or
the
the
today's
Tuesday
on
the
15th
I
think
we
have.
B
So,
all
right!
So
what
what
I'm
expected
to
do
is
attempt
a
a
mood
board
to
show
you
guys
what
I'm
working
on
right.
A
Yeah
so
I
guess
what
and
if
they're
directs
agree.
What
we're
looking
for
would
be
a
a
template
show
us
what
colors
you
want
to
use
like,
like
a
palette,
show
as
kind
of
initial
graphics
that
would
be
used.
What
fonts
you
like
do,
you
think,
would
be
good.
So,
let's
start
with
some
preliminaries,
and
then
we
could
in
that.
At
that
moment
we
could
help
guide
you
for
the
rest,
so
we
make
it
a
halfway
that
way
you
get
some
feedback.
So
what
I
guess?
A
A
So
so
come
with
some
some
kind
of
like
one
slide
that
showcases
the
colors,
the
fonts
and
the
graphics.
How
does
that
sound.
A
Could
use
whatever
tools
you
like?
That
makes
you
the
most
efficient
we're
not,
and
we
even
though
we're
open
source
people
we
didn't
realize.
That
tooling
is
important,
but
we
don't
want
to
stop
here
from
using
tools
that
you're
familiar
with
yeah
and.
C
C
B
But
but
I'm
supposed
to
show
you
the
groundwork
by
by
the
middle
of
November.
So
do
we
now
move
that
to
27.