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C
B
So
yeah
welcome
to
those
joining
the
recording.
Today
is
july:
26
2021.
B
We
are
in
the
app
ecosystem
working
group
meeting
right
now
and
last
week
we
had
a
great
conversation
with
christine
kenney
from
gnomon
kd
about
their
experience
with
guadac
and
kde
academy,
and
we
wanted
their
feedback
on
the
event
activity,
organizers,
metrics
that
we
developed.
So
if
you
scroll
down
in
or
I
can
share
my
screen.
B
Maybe
we
should
do
a
quick
round
of
introductions
before
we
dive
in,
since
there
are
a
few
new
faces
today.
So
I
can.
I
can
start.
My
name
is
georg.
I
work
at
pitergia,
I'm
the
director
of
sales
there.
C
A
Hello,
my
name
is
shree
ram
krishna.
I
work
for
it
renew
as
a
ecos
principal
ecosystems,
engineer
basically
work
for
ecosystems,
but
I
also
do
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
work
in
the
gnome
project
and
one
of
the-
and
these
are
these-
I
don't
know
why
I
can't
talk
today
but
but
yeah.
That's
it
remember.
Stop.
While
I'm
ahead.
D
Oh
hi,
everyone,
I'm
perry,
I'm
from
the
open
source,
community
africa,
I'm
also
playing
a
lot
of
studies
around
genome
recently
just
took
over
program
managing
the
scalable
onboarding
and
three
introduced
into
this
group
and
said
it's
a
group.
I
would
really
learn
from
and
I'm
really
excited
to
be
here.
I'm
looking
forward
to
connect
with
everyone
here
and
learn
from
everyone.
E
Okay,
I'll
go
next,
I'm
norezy!
I
work
at
gitlab
as
the
senior
open
source
program
manager.
I
am
working
from
my
sister's
place
in
la
so
I
went
to
their
business
center,
so
there
might
be
like
random
people.
In
the
background.
E
All
right,
I
guess
nico
nicole,
do
you
want
to
go
next
yeah?
That's.
F
Good
yeah,
you
go
I'm
from
the
netherlands
and
in
my
daily
job
I
work
in
the
open
source
program
office
at
alejandro,
which
is
a
great
operator
in
netherlands.
So
we
do
power
and
gas
and
well
I've
been
in
the
open
source
community
for
a
long
time.
So
and
all
the
things
also
with
the
free
software
foundation,
europe
and
I
use
gnome
and
use
kit
lab
and
all
this
stuff,
so
yeah
interesting
good
to
see
so
many
people
here,
yeah
and
I'll
pass
it
on
to
sean.
G
Hey
I'm
sean,
I
work.
I
work
at
red
hat
in
the
open
source
program
office
and
I
have
a
long
history
with
the
gnome
project,
doing
documentation
and
community
and
kind
of
on-again
off-again
on-again
board
work
so
and
I
guess
allison
is
left.
H
Yep,
I
guess
that
leaves
me
hi,
I'm
allison,
I
am
a
consultant
with
kde,
I'm
new
to
the
open
source
community.
B
So
parent
alice
allison-
you
are
here
probably
by
invitation
from
shree.
H
Yeah
from
neo
features
from
me.
B
So
we
we
were
discussing
about
getting
some
feedback
on
work
that
we
had
done
and
we
wanted
to
get
some
feedback
on
on
the
metrics
that
we
thought
of
might
be
interesting
to
event,
activity,
organizers
and
last
time
we
met.
We
had
we
were
working
with
christy
and
kenny
through
those.
H
Absolutely
I
did
actually
look
at
it
pretty
in-depth
after
the
last
meeting.
I
wasn't
able
to
make
it
unfortunately,
but
I
did
read
through
it
and
I
think
it's
it's
pretty
thorough.
Sorry,
I'm
just
trying
to
pull
it
up
again,
because
I
have
a
few
documents
that
I'm
sorting
through
at
the
moment.
B
And
in
there,
if
we
go
to
the,
if
we
go
down
to
page
two,
we
do
have
a
copy
of
the
metrics
where
we
can
annotate
and
comment
and
that's
that's
where
we're
working
right
now.
E
B
D
E
C
B
Yeah
I
was
so
so
nerdy.
Thank
you
for
sharing
that
document.
I
read
last
time
we
copied
into
the
minute.
So
if
you
go
down
to
july
12
the
event
activity,
organizers,
metrics,
and
so
we
were
just
working
inside
the
minutes,
we
don't
have
a
separate
document.
B
E
C
B
B
E
You,
okay,
so
I
haven't
read
through
the
notes
either.
So
are
we
supposed
to
just
go
through.
B
H
Yeah,
I
think
that
the
questions
that
are
being
posed
are
quite
relevant.
Maybe
some
are
more
measurable
than
others.
I
guess
maybe
a
few
need
just
a
few
more
parameters
to
make
them
more
easy
to
to
quantify,
but
other
than
that,
I
think
like
like,
for
example,
number
six.
How
engaging
was
the
event?
H
What
do
we
want
to
mean
by
engagement?
Could
this
be
registrations
versus
live
attendees?
Could
this
be?
H
B
B
That
require
matching
attendees
with
contributors
and
matching
between
who
is
at
the
event
and
who's
in
the
community
and
needing
some
some
way
of
connecting
those
identities
connecting
because
the
registration,
the
conference
registration
process
does
not
require
someone
to
use
their
their
identity.
They
com
contribute
with,
and
I
think
kenny
said
they
used
to
have
a
field,
but
they
took
it
out
of
the
registration
process
to
ask
hey
what
handle
do
you
contribute
with?
B
B
I
don't
know
if
that
would
be
helpful.
The
other
thing
that
came
out
of
the
meeting,
as
far
as
I
remember,
is
that
some
of
these
questions
sounded
repetitive,
and
maybe
we
can
combine
them
or
reword
them
better.
H
B
And
then,
maybe
with
your
parametrization
idea,
we
can
say
a
question
of
something
along
the
lines
of
attendees
and
contributors
and
then
have
different
parameters
for
what?
What
do
we
ask
of
attendees
and
contributors
like
how
many
contributors
attended
our
events
as
in
contributors
that
were
active
before
how
many
contributors
became
active
after
attending
event?
B
E
F
Clear
if
it's
the
issue
that
maybe
some
questions
fall
into
difficulty
categories,
we
could
also
label
them
where
they
contribute
to
and
if
there's
no
overlap,
you
can
always
group
them
and
otherwise
just
leave
it.
E
B
E
H
H
How
do
we
actually
measure,
I
think,
with
the
questions
you
want
to
be
as
specific
as
possible
for
one
and
where
you
can
group
questions
together
would
probably
be
better
because,
let's
say
okay
for
number
six,
like
maybe
that
becomes
a
group
of
questions
with,
as,
as
you
said
earlier,
like
how
many
contributor
returning
contributors
attended,
how
many
new
contributors
attended?
How
did
how
many
you
know
non-contributors
attended
so
kind
of
have
to
break
it
down
to
make
it
make
it
a
bit
more
specific.
H
B
Here,
let's
copy
it
strike
it
out
here
and
create
a
new
goal
goal.
I
I
I
move
down.
So
I'm!
Oh,
you
see
my
screen.
B
H
So,
in
terms
of
engagement,
first,
we
should
define
what
what
engagement
is
like
you
know.
Are
we
are
we
counting
comments?
Are
we
counting
questions?
Are
we
counting
how
many
people
are
asking
questions
rather
than
quantifying
the
questions
themselves?.
E
H
C
A
E
A
A
Thousand
views
right
and
then
on
day,
two
was
it:
it
dropped
precipitously,
which
is
what
I
usually
see
in
online
conferences.
That's.
G
E
I
don't
know
okay,
so
I
changed
the
top
thing
from
how
engaging
was
the
event
since
now
we're
breaking
it
down
into
smaller
into
more
nuanced
categories,
and
I'm
not
sure
how
to
phrase
this
first,
one,
how
engaged
was
the
audience,
but
we
have
number
of
messages
on
conference,
specific
messaging
platform
which
to
me
has
to
do
again
with
like,
if
there's
a
speaker,
how
many
questions
or
like
comments
are
happening.
A
B
A
E
C
E
E
Are
there
any
other
ways
of
defining
engagement,
allison
that
you
can
think
of
or
larry
or
anyone
else.
A
Okay,
sorry,
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
putin
directions.
Maybe
well
choose
to
get
the
answer,
but
number
of
questions
of
the
boot
would
be.
H
I
think
some
way
to
drive
down
the
how
many
people
sat
in
each
talk
or
session,
maybe
it's
an
average
of
who
attended
each
session.
H
H
C
F
E
Yeah
we
talked
about
that
a
little
bit
to
nico,
because
you
were
saying
that
a
lot
of
this
also
depends
on
the
tool
stack
that
people
are
using
and
like
the
capabilities
and
all
of
that
so
right
now,
I
think
we're
trying
to
gather
everything
that
comes
to
our
brains
and
then
you
know
we
want
to
make
some
also
practical
recommendations
of
like.
If
you
use
this
tool,
then
these
are
some
that
are
easier
to
find
and
you
do
it
this
way.
So
that
would
be
like
a
second
iteration
of
this
proposal.
F
C
H
C
H
G
Fortunately,
georg
is
exceptionally
good
at
note-taking,
so.
E
On
youtube,
but
maybe
like
have
we
thought
about
all
the
other
types
of
messaging
systems
like
twitter
and
linkedin,
specifically.
C
B
E
Well
and
there's
also
like
retweets,
and
I
guess
gitlab-
does
it
by
a
number
of
impressions.
E
And
I
know
that
there
is
a
tool,
that's
proprietary,
but
I
wonder
if
there's
a
an
open
source
version,
it's
called
keyhole
and
essentially
what
you
do.
Is
you
connect
your
account
to
that
and
it
gives
you
like
all
these
metrics
around
impressions
and
like
the
reach
of
your
social
media,
essentially.
C
B
C
C
F
I
think
there's
only
one
that
is
open
source,
that's
analysia
somewhere
down,
I
think,
or
you
can
filter
with
it.
F
C
C
A
I
don't
think
they
want
the
people
like
me,
my
age
hanging
on
there.
That's
where
all
the
cool
cool
kids
are.
B
I
I
think
this
is
quite
quite
amazing.
We
we
started
reviewing
to
get
feedback
on
the
existing
metrics
and
one
metric
here
alone
by
itself
kind
of
triggered
a
whole
new
goal
and
category
of
metrics
and
questions.
That's
that's
awesome.
C
E
Were
there
any
others
like
that,
that
you
thought
we
should
expand
upon
or.
H
E
B
H
E
E
C
B
E
B
B
H
Maybe
slides
like
each
question
is
a
slide
so
that
way,
you're
not
faced
with
huge
amounts
of
text.
Yes,
love
that
I'm
adding
it
in
here,
like
you,
can
turn
those
slides
into
a
pdf
even.
H
H
Oh,
I
wouldn't
mind
putting
some
slides
together
as
like
a
test
run
before
the
next
meeting.
That'd
be
great
cool.
C
B
E
Yes,
and
what
I
wanted
to
say
really
quickly
is
that
I
think
that
we're
like
the
way
that
I
see
this
keorg,
is
that
we're
putting
all
of
these
takeaways
from
the
feedback
and
then-
and
some
of
these
will
be
actionable
instead
of
having
like
new
points
for
each
one.
C
B
Cool
sounds
good.
Well,
we
are
at
the
end
of
our
meeting
for
today.
I
really
appreciate
this
very
engaged
working
session,
all
of
your
contributions
and
I
look
forward
to
continuing
in
well.
Let's
talk
quickly
about
in
two
weeks,
august,
9th
sean.
I
know
you
are
going
to
be
out
on
vacation
you're,
ready
too.