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A
B
A
Steps
here
we
talked
about
the
linux
app
summit
that
was
the
last
week
and
that
we
would
like
to
get
some
feedback
there
and
right
now
we
are
working
on
our
new
persona,
promotions
and
communications
team,
and
this
is
where
the
conversation
is
currently
happening.
We
are
focusing
on
the
goal
to
craft
a
brand
for
the
community
and
are
discussing
about
the
sub
goals.
B
Yeah,
that's
great,
and
I
think
the
only
thing
to
add
is
what
we're
discussing
right
now
about
how
sub
goal
2.2
might
be
more
about
tool,
choice
and
the
first
one
is
more
about
engagement
choice.
B
Like
to
me,
a
brand
is
something
that
when
you
see
you
recognize
what
it
actually
like,
what
the
product
is
or
service,
and
you
have
certain
feelings
associated
with
it.
And
so
I
like
it's
interesting
to
me,
how
we're
choosing
to
approach
each
of
these,
because
I
think
that,
like
one
of
our
goals
like
what
subgoal
2.1
is
trying
to
get
out
is
like
creating
that
feeling
of
people
when
they
see
the
brand.
Somehow
associating
that
it's
inclusive
and
it's
that's
kind
of
like
the
feelings
part
of
it
in
some
way.
A
So
an
example
where
I
see
this
is
drupal
the
drupal
community.
I
have.
I
have
two
different
brands
in
mind
here.
One
is
the
community
where
I
know
several
people
who
are
in
the
drupal
community
they're
very
engaged.
I
was
part
of
it
for
a
while
and
they
have
drupalcon
they're
doing
a
lot
of
amazing
work.
A
But
then
the
other
brand
is
drupal
as
the
content
management
system
and
I
think
about
the
technical
requirements
that
it
was
running.
The
white
house
dot
page
for
during
the
obama
era
and
that
that
to
me
is
also
a
brand
but
more
about
the
tool
and
what
the
project
is
being
used
for
and
that's
a
good
choice
to
build
on,
regardless
of
how
the
sausage
is
made.
The
community,
regardless
of
the
community.
A
C
I
think
it's
an
interesting
distinction,
particularly
for
this
group
kind
of
being
built
out
of
out
of
kde
and
gnome,
which
both
have,
I
think
many
facets
to
their
brand,
which
is
you
know
your
community,
as
you
say,
of
people,
doing
conferences
and
having
hack,
fest
and
getting
together.
C
But
then
also,
you
know
your
your
user
facing
software.
You
know
your
desktop
or
whatever
else,
you're
you're,
creating
your
apps
and
stuff.
But
then
also,
you
know
the
the
brand
of
of
your
of
your
developer
ecosystem
right,
like
we
want
people
building,
apps.
C
With
our
technology
stack
and
the
brands
are
are
not
entirely
independent,
obviously,
making
one
more
recognizable
makes
the
others
more
recognizable
right,
but
but
I
think
there
is
some
distinction
to
be
made.
I.
C
A
And
then,
if
we
promote
the
brand
of
the
community
behind
the
desktop,
regardless
of
how
how
good
people
like
using
the
software
just
how
they
like
to
engage
in
making
the
software,
maybe
maybe
we're
thinking
a
completely
wrong
path
as
well.
Maybe
that's
not
how
brands
work
I'm
just
throwing
that
out.
There.
B
Yeah
because
another
example
that
I'm
thinking
of
is
that
google
was
like
put
on
some
open
source
event
and
they
were
talking
about
how
they
made
their
product
more
inclusive.
B
In
terms
of
like
and
brought
up
an
example
of,
like
a
camera
lens
that
before
didn't
capture
images
of
darker
people
or
darker
skin
tones,
and
then
they
did
some
changes.
And
now
it
captures
a
broader
spectrum
of
skin
tones
and
things
like
that,
and
so
they
were
saying.
Look
at
us
we're
inclusive
and
we're
trying
to
like
build
along
with
everybody.
And
so
it
sounds
like
they're
trying
to
shift
their
brand
so
that,
when
you
think
about
google,
you
think
of
it
as
being
like
inclusive
products.
A
A
A
B
A
Now
it
works
yeah.
Let's.
A
C
B
Yeah
and
as
we're
talking
about
this
sentiment
analysis,
it
makes
me
wonder
what
we
mean
by
like
how
do
people
see
the
project,
because
that
question
seems
very
similar
to
what
do
people
associate
with
the
project
and
whether
people
dislike
or
like
it.
So
I
wonder
if
we
should
be
a
little
more
specific
in
terms
of
is
this.
A
B
Oh
for
metric,
I
mean
for
the
disliking
or
liking
a
project.
I
think
we
also
talked
about
like
an
nps
score
net
promoter
score,
which
is
basically
or
like
emojis,
or
maybe
that
could
have
been
for
something
else,
but.
A
A
Another
interesting
thing
is
for
how
do
people
see
the
project?
I
think
we
can
look
at
the
social
listening
metric,
especially
for
understanding
what
people
in
the
project
are.
B
A
A
A
When
we
comment
on
it,
we
want
to
help
so
every
interaction
has
a
certain
meaning
in
what
we
are
doing
in
the
communities,
and
so,
if
we
start
to
collect
all
of
those
interactions
and
we
analyze
them
in
a
certain
way,
then
we
can
start
to
see
what
what
kind
of
things
people
are
talking
about
and
how
they're
seeing
it.
So
specifically,
we
can
build.
A
Like
transparency,
do
people
recognize
and
feel
a
connection
to
the
community,
so
in
the
way
that
they're
talking
are
they
upset?
Are
they
helpful?
Are
they
helping
others?
Are
they
asking
for
help?
Are
they
showing
that
they
are
that
they
understand
where
things
are
happening,
that
it's
transparent
and
by
the
process
is
basically
you
take
every
interaction,
and
then
you
tag
it
with
with
these
different
labels.
A
And
that's
really
cool
it
is,
and
so
let's
say
utility
is
very
high.
People
are
talking
a
lot
about
how
easy
the
tool
is
to
use
how
how
the
features
match
their
requirements.
But
there
is
not
a
lot
of
consistency.
Maybe
we
need
to
think
about
okay.
How
do
we
transfer
that
consistency
and
how
we
communicate
and
how
we
engage
the
community,
and
maybe
we
can
leverage
that
that
utility
to
drive
or
get
people
more?
A
I
have
a
better
impression
of
the
consistency.
Now,
I'm
not
a
there
are
ways
to
do
it.
I
just
I
recommend
listening
to
our
podcast
episode,
where
we
talked
about
this.
A
A
What
do
people
associate
with
the
project?
I
I'm
not
entirely
sure
what
we're
expecting
here
as
answers.
A
B
I
think
it
was
around.
This
could
either
speak
to
values
or
like
it
could
be,
not
exactly
sentiment
analysis,
but
it's
more
of
like
this
is
a
this
is
a
cutting
edge
project
versus
like
this
is
like
I
don't
know,
I
it
in
some
way.
It's.
A
A
B
And
that
goes
into
this
whole
thing
of
again,
like
values
and
how
that
shapes
a
project
and
community.
I
think
that
a
strong
brand
is
based
in
values
in
some
way.
A
Once
we
clean
this
up
a
little
bit,
vina
logan,
who
is
one
of
the
authors
of
the
social
listening
metric?
She
is.
She
comes
from
a
marketing
background,
but
has
very
strong
footing
in
community
work.
Community
management-
I
I
think,
would
be
interesting
to
invite
her
to
a
conversation
about
this.
C
That's
such
a
hard
thing,
I
mean
you
know
you:
can
I've
seen
lots
of
people
use
stats
that
I
think
are.
C
C
So
I
I
guess
things
like
that
are
some
indication
of
well-known
projects.
I
think
they
can
probably
distinguish
between
extremely
well-known
projects
and
small
niche
projects,
but
I
think
the
the
variance
the
margin
of
error
on
that
is
is
pretty
high.
You
know,
like
the
difference
between
a
five-star
project
and
a
5
000
star
project
is
probably
relevant:
the
difference
between
a
500
star
and
a
600
star
project.
I
don't
think
that's
relevant
at
all.
B
C
B
And
that
could
factor
in
somehow,
although
it
could
just
be
like
the
same
20
people
blowing
up
the
internet,
but
I
don't
know
like
even
then,
there
must
be
something
around
that
that
we
could
measure
to
see
the
impact
that
the
mentions
and
hashtags
have.
A
B
A
A
Okay,
well,
we
have.
We
have
a
four
week
break
we'll
meet
again
in
four
weeks,
but
then
we'll
have
everything
forgotten,
and
so
we
can
start
from
scratch
to
try
to
figure
out
what
we
were
meaning
with
this,
and
then
we
can
hopefully
clean
it
up
next
time.