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A
Welcome
to
the
april
7th
2021
meeting
of
the
asia
pacific
working
group,
some
people
just
connecting
already
share
the
minutes
and
you
can
add
your
name
as
you
see
fit.
A
Anything,
king
or
xiao
or
clement.
You
want
to
bring
up
to
add
to
the
agenda.
A
Okay,
the
yeah,
the
auger
hackathon
that
the
last
time
I
was
here
I
missed
the
last
week.
Sorry,
I
had
a
great
day
and
I
just
got
lost
in
that
process,
but
we
before
that
the
second
meeting
before
that
we
had
tried
to
find
a
date,
but
there
were
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
holidays
and
different
kinds
of
there's
a
some
work
from
saturday
things
that
people
were
going
through.
So
I
thought
we
could
try
to
pick
a
date
for
the
next
augur.
A
Hackathon
and
I
know
willem
we'd-
started
a
discussion
about
designing
for
contributor
things
that
had
a
more
inner
source
kind
of
center
around
essentially
each
platform,
each
company
having
a
way
to
contribute
to
the
map
for
contributors.
A
But
there
are
other
things
we
can
do:
auger
hackathon,
so
I'm
just
are
there
dates
what
are
some
dates
in
april
or
may?
That
would
work
for
that.
I
know
last
weekend
there
were
some
conflicts,
so
we
just
we
didn't
get
to
schedule
another
one,
and
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to
or
if
there's
another
way.
A
April
24th
may
1st.
B
So
sorry
sure,
I'm
sorry,
my
my
internet
is
not
stable,
so
do
do
you
mean
you
want
to
pick
the
data.
We
must
decide
which
data
to
put
the
hacksaw.
We
we
don't
have
to
decide.
A
Now,
but
what
schedule
is
far
enough
in
advance?
People
have
a
chance
to
be.
C
A
C
Because
the
neighbor
neighbor
stays
in
the
I
think
is
the
may
the
first,
so
we
will
work
on
april,
17th
and
24th.
So
the
next
two
saturdays
we
will
work
is
our
work
day.
A
Yeah,
what
so
would
so?
The
first
and
the
eighth
hour
work
days
of
may.
C
Right,
let's
start.
B
D
C
C
C
B
C
A
Let's,
let's
do
that
then
and
we'll
do
the
is
it
10
o'clock
in
the
morning?
Your
time
still
a
good.
A
A
Okay,
we
could
do
nine
o'clock
a.m.
That
would
be
just
earlier
for
me,
which
is
totally
cool
yeah.
So
may
4th
may
15th
at
9
00
a.m.
B
A
A
All
right,
let's
put
that
on
the
calendar
for
now,
and
we
have
plenty
of
weeks
between
here
and
there
if
something
changes.
So
what's
okay,
we
decided
that
yay
and
then
the
new
elizabeth.
I
do
you
have
the
new.
Do
you
understand
the
new
blog
post
or
know
what
that
is
about?
I
haven't
seen
that
before.
D
E
Shoya's
blog
post
that
she
posted
about
the
the
digital
insight
report,
which
was.
E
E
There
are
other
things
we
need
to
do
to
help
promote
that
on
our
end
like
on
the
you
know,
north
american
end
or
whatever,
let
me
know,
but
I
I'm
assuming
that
you're
gonna
promote
it
on
your
channels
over
there
right.
Yes,
okay,.
D
And
if
you
have
any
interest
or
any
questions
with
regard
to
this
report,
the
content
of
this
report-
and
I
I
I
just
think
we
may
have
some-
we
may
there
are
some
sceneries.
A
D
On
this-
because
this
is
also
related
to
some
metrics
but
more
more
more
related
to
mathematic
models,
something
like
that.
D
Oh-
and
we
are
thinking
of
to
make
the
whole
report
augmented
automated.
D
Yes,
because
those
those
analysis,
we
can
separate
them
into
different
components
and
generated
automatically
generated
the
the
graphs,
because
we
have
data.
Currently,
we
we
store
all
the
coordination,
github
data
into
click
house
database.
D
And
we
are
thinking,
maybe
because
I've
I've
saw
the
community
report
produced
by
kiosks,
two
of
which
are
generated
by
auger,
and
we
think
they
are
fascinated
and
we
may
think
enough
to
augmented
generated
just
to
go
through
the
whole
process.
But
but
we
will
claim
that
the
idea
is
from
over
and
grandma-like.
D
D
Yes,
if
the,
if,
if
the
process
works,
I
think
that
could
be
work
for
all
all
the
repository,
because
we
we
we
store
the
coordination
data
like
from
the
global
github
data.
D
D
A
Yeah,
I
know
historically,
we've
looked
at
gh
archive
and
a
few
other
tool.
Builders
have
I
don't
know
what
its
current
status
is
back,
I
don't
know
is
it
it
was
open
source
summit,
europe
2017-
maybe
that
maybe
2018,
but
I
think
2017
that
we
at
that
time.
Github
archive
had
a
lot
of
holes
in
the
data,
but
presumably
they've
closed
some
of
those
holes
so
especially
the
last
four
years
should
be
more
complete
and
high
quality
data.
D
A
And
are
there
any
other
links
that
you
want
to
share
about
this
joya.
A
A
E
Interesting
so
I
see
translation
is
on
the
agenda.
I'm
not
sure
what
what
we
need
to
talk
about
that,
just
as
ongoing
we'll
continue
reviewing
the
evolution
working
group.
D
Yeah,
it's
actually
from
the
last
meeting.
Matt
talked
about
because
the
translated
metrics
are
definitely
need
to
be
reviewed,
but
but
but
I'm
not
sure
if
we
we
have
expected
time
point
to
publish
the
translated
metrics,
but
we
decided
to
review
maybe
one
working
metrics
under
one
work
group.
So
we
I
just-
I
just
put
the
agenda
here
to
say
that
we
are
reviewing
the
metrics
in
evolution.
Working
group.
E
Okay,
fantastic,
I
don't
know
if
yeah,
I
will
probably
need
to
check
with
matt
on
the
timing
for
the
translated
metrics
from
this
past
release.
I'm
assuming
he
sent
it
along
to
the
third
party
that
we
use
to
do
the
first
kind
of
first
pass
of
the
metrics,
but
I
can
double
check
with
him
just
to
make
sure
that
that's
happening.
E
D
Just
anything
that
are
not
so
not
looks
so
good,
so
fluent,
okay,.
E
E
C
D
A
It's
in
evolution,
yeah
auger
actually
generates
issue
labels
and
pull
request
labels
a
record
not
only
of
the
final
labels,
but
the
labels
as
they
are
added
and
removed
over
time.
So
you
can
also
see
labeled
trajectory
a
lot
of
people.
A
C
So
I
think,
there's
a
there's
another
question
about
the
community
actually
like
how
many
metrics
about
human
in
the
community
and
how
many
metrics
about
the
robots.
So
we
can
see
that
robot
acts
a
very
important
role
in
the
community
nowadays.
So
I
think
that's.
We
should
try
to
make
some
matches
for
the
robot
to
do
something.
C
A
And
there's
like
I
don't
know
what
other
groups
are
doing
with
robots,
but
I've
actually
talked
with
the
kubernetes
and
lf
cncf
folks
about
this,
and
so
these
labels,
because
we
kate
stewart-
and
I
have
done
some
analysis
of
these
labels
in
the
risk
working
group
and
the
the
labels
that
are
prefaced
with
sig-
slash
that
those
are
all
the
robots
are
doing.
There
is.
A
Those
are
interesting
because
they
serve
a
slightly
different
purpose
than
other
labels.
Some
labels,
a
lot
of
labels,
indicate
what
part
of
the
system
or
the
level
of
urgency
associated
with
it,
or
whether
it's
a
good
new,
first
time,
contributor
issue.
So
labels
have
a
lot
of
different
purposes
and
the
interesting
thing
about
the
bot
labels
I've
seen
is.
C
C
D
A
We're
just
looking
at
label
we've
been
discussing
label
assignments
and
the
work
that
kate
stewart
and
I
had
done
with
the
risk
working
group
and
how
some
labels
that
are
assigned
by
bots
are
assigned,
based
on
some
kind
of
machine
learning.
Algorithm
that
looks
at
what
special
interest
group
inside
a
cncf
on
that
project
would
be
interested
in
it
and
right
now,
clement
is
showing
us
that
in
there's
another
mechanism.
A
F
A
D
C
Yeah,
I
think
the
neighboring
is
the
excellent.
Is
the
new
feature
for
the
some
github
projects
away
like
in
china,
some
kind
of
projects
that
don't
need?
Don't
never
the
issue
to
classified
issues.
So
we
can
see
that
when
the
newcomers
to
the
community,
they
don't
know
how
to
participate
in
the
issue
process.
C
So
I
think
enabler
is
a
very
important
thing
to
classify
the
issues
and
help
the
newcomers,
but
the
assigned
neighbors
is
out
of
work
for
the
developers,
so
some
how
some
kind
of
projection
that
then
made
the
robot
to
do
these
things
next
donut
and
we
will
use
the
technique
to
the
some
chinese
projects
like
the
myspoil.
C
They
use
the
issue
enable
robot
to
assign
neighbors,
but
one
way,
that's
a
very
interesting,
very
interesting
question,
because
we,
when
we
think
about
the
developers,
the
webs,
also
humans,
not
the
robots,
but
there
are
more
and
more
scenes
in
the
community
that
are
made
by
the
robots.
So
we
I
think
we
we
can
make
make
the
contribute
contribution,
differs
from
the
human
or
the
robot.
I
think
the
matrix
will
maybe
can
do
these
things.
F
Oh
okay,
yep
thanks
and
so
clement
is
your
is
the
hope
to
start
differentiating
between
labels
that
are
created.
Trying
to
understand
labels
that
are
created
by
people
versus
bots
is
that.
C
Not
only
the
neighbors
like
the
comments,
okay,
also
the
make.
Maybe
the
prs
prs
from
the
robots
or
we
can
that
we
can
think
the
the
product
that
productivity
of
the.
D
C
Robots
or
the
humor
are
different,
very,
very
different,
so
maybe
we
can
see
we.
We
can
measure
the
amount
of
the
issue
of
gr
in
projected
when
we
try
to
compare
to
projects
about
the
issues
or
the
prs,
but
but
one
project
use
the
robot,
but
the
other
is
not
so.
We
kind
of
huge
differences
between
the
productivity.
D
A
F
A
That
even
that
spreadsheet,
no
it's
it's
been
up
to
this
point,
an
analysis
to
see
what
the
metric
would
be
like.
What
what
do
we
learn
from
it?
A
C
A
C
F
So
I
was
taking
notes
I
so
I
mean
I
could
see
how
if
we
start
kind
of
differentiating
bot
activity,
I
mean
there
are
metrics
out
there
like
time
to
first
response,
which
could
be
heavily
skewed
if
we're
not
filtering,
because
I
look
at
like
the
badging
program
that
we
have
right
and
if
somebody
posts
an
issue
in
the
badging
program,
matt
snell
obviously
created
a
bot
that
just
says
thanks
for
your
application,
we'll
get
to
it
soon,
yeah,
so
so
the
time
to
first
response
is
like
less
than
five
minutes
just
because
the
bot
takes
care
of
it.
F
G
Yeah,
I
well
because,
because
most
of
the
metrics
that
I
care
about
are
things
like
like
response
time
and
I
don't
care
that
a
bot
responded
right
away.
But
I
care
about
is
that
a
human
eventually
responds
yeah.
F
G
For
example,
for
that
metric
I
filter
out
as
many
of
the
bots
as
I
can
find.
So
I
have
like
just
a
big
list
of
things
that
are
filtered
out
of
the
auger
query
for
known
bots.
F
G
A
Yeah,
I
think
it
fits
in
common
because
it
works
everywhere
else,
because
issues
I'm
trending
like
first
include
value
is
certainly
looking
at
digital
data.
That's
from
the
platform,
so
labels
metal
that
matter
there
risk
and
evolution
both
have
an
interest
in
it.
A
A
But
I
think
the
general
understanding
of
the
use
of
tags
in
different
repo
areas
is
is
a
common
thing,
because
there's
a
couple
questions
about
bots,
doing
assignments,
because
that's
what
really,
when
you're
putting
in
a
special
interest
group,
that's
an
assignment
oriented
bot
tag,
and
I
think
the
point
that
that
is
being
made
here
is-
is
that
there
are
other
purposes
for
these
bots
to
be.
As
for
these
bots
to
assign
things.
F
A
G
F
F
F
I
did
have
something
just
in
the
last
six
minutes.
I
know
this
had
come
up
last
time.
There's
a
I
don't
have
the
name
for
it,
but
a
chinese
google
summer
of
code,
the
only
yeah,
and
there
was
a
request
that
maybe
let's
see
who
could
take
a
look.
F
F
D
I
I
can
ask
him
the
like
what
the
process
is
now
after
the
meeting.
F
D
F
All
right
and
then
a
couple
other
things
shoya
do
you?
Are
you
comfortable?
You
know
what
you're
doing
with
the
google
season
of
docs.
You
got
that
email
from
venue.
D
D
C
F
I
actually
have
all
these
like
small
items.
I
was
late
king.
This
thank
you
for
helping
with
the
sweatshirts
yeah.
Those
were
awesome,
we're
ordering
more
because
they
were
amazing,
so.
B
F
That
sounds
perfect
and
we,
what
I'll
try
to
do
is
just
work
with
the
linux
foundation
to
invoice
directly.
That
way,
I'd
rather
do
that
than
a
reimbursement
of
any
sort.
So,
okay,
that
would
be
good,
okay,
cool.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
King,
like
I
said
they
were
probably
the
the
most
well
received
sweatshirt
that
I've.
B
So
I
think
summer
will
come
summer
will
come.
We
need
to
book.
We
need
to
make
the
t-shirt
like
this.
B
Some
news
the
china
will
open
to
the
overseas
almost
in
july
or
august
august
and
july
almost
and
if
some
someone
who
have
injected
vaccines
they
have,
they
can
come
to
china.
F
If
we
had
talked
about
chaos
con
with
don
here,
so
I
mean
I
think,
as
soon
as
things
start
opening
up
we're
pretty
like
flexible
to
to
get
a
chaos
con
up
and
running
again.
F
I
think
we
know
the
process
pretty
well
at
this
point
and
so
we're
all
just
kind
of
as
a
community
waiting
for
people
to
be
able
to
one
travel
to
different
countries
and
then
to
really
just
travel
themselves
like
comfortably,
I'm
pretty
sure,
there's
going
to
be
kind
of
an
emotional
psychological
thing
that
we're
all
going
to
have
to
get
over
as
well.
So.
G
A
Yeah,
so
if
that's
over
the
summer,
oss
summit
in
asia
would
be
in
a
really
great
place.
We've
partnered
with
oss
summits,
for
chaos,
cons
before
and
it's
gone
really
well,
because
you've
got
a
large
crowd
of
metric,
curious
people,
and,
and
so
we
get
an
opportunity
to
share
what
the
work
that
we're
doing
and
how
it
can
be
useful
with
a
lot
much
larger
population
than
if,
if
it's
a
standalone
event
or
associated
with
a
smaller
event,
although
kubecon
is
probably
as
big
as
oss
summits,.
G
It's
actually
the
same.
I
just
looked
so
here's
the
their
events
page,
but
it's
so
so
in
china
they
combine
kubecon
cloud
native
con
and
open
source
summit
into
one
event,
but
it's
currently
listed
as
to
be
announced,
so
they
haven't
actually
set
a
date
before,
which
means
it
won't
be
in
the
summer.
G
I
think
the
only
the
only
asian
events
that
I
can
see
on
their
schedule
are
the
the
ones.
Oh,
actually,
those
don't
have
dates
either.
The
tokyo
events.
G
G
A
It
looks
like
they
did
put
a
date
and
a
place
limit.
The
lf
member
summit
is
going
to
be
in
november.
This
year
I
mean
napa.