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From YouTube: CHAOSS Asia-Pacific Community Call 3/23/22
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A
Start
the
recording
welcome
to
the
asia
pacific
meeting
here
on
march,
23rd
2022..
If
you
can-
or
you
want
to
you-
can
write
your
name
in
the
attendee
list.
A
A
I
know
that
we've
been
putting
new
metrics
into
the
translations
repo,
and
I
think
that
we
just
wanted
to
check
in
on
that.
B
A
For
the
ones
already
and
the
issue
tracker
of
the
translations-
repo,
I'm
gonna-
I'm
gonna
put
that
that
hedge
in
there
in
case
there's
somebody
who
has
not
put
something
in
the
translations
repo
and
then
for
for
google
summer
of
code.
I
I
think
we
probably
just
want
to
discuss
if
there
are
chinese
students
who
want
to
apply
to
some
of
the
projects
that
we've
outlined
and
if,
if
there's
a
way
to
promote
that.
B
B
A
Yeah
matt
mentioned
that
to
me,
I
think
friday,
that
there
weren't
micro
tasks-
and
I
confess
I
haven't-
looked
at
it
because
I
swear
I
put
my
microtasks
in
there,
but
I
also
remembered
that
actually
participated.
Request
live
trans.
Oh
yes,
enable
sorry.
Can
chaos.
A
A
A
The
start
in
the
I
think,
it's
june,
I
would
have.
B
A
B
B
E
A
I
mean,
I
think
so
the
micro
tasks
are
not
intended.
I
I
at
least
I
I
never
really
intend
them
to
be.
You
know
a
giant
amount
of
time.
I
I
think
I
think
they.
I
intend
them
to
be
enough
effort
to
show
effectively
to
demonstrate
interest
in
the
project
in
the
current
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
why
that
ended
up
like
that.
A
That
is
weird,
I
guess
the
I
guess.
Indenting
was
interpreted
wrong.
A
But
essentially
like
just
do
something
with
grammar
or
auger
is
really.
I
say
that
the
intense
I
mean.
I
think
those
are
good,
especially
for
this
one,
since
we're
building
a
metrics
model,
the
metrics
model,
in
my
opinion,
could
be
built
with
either
tool
and
in
fact,
when
we
look
at
sigil
sega
ls
and
we're
more
lab,
we
may
discover
that
the
metrics
models
already
built
by
them
there's
something
like
70
of
those
all
right.
That
looks
better
uh-huh
yeah.
So
I
I
think
for
that
one.
E
A
It's
outlined
at
google
summer
of
code,
but
it's
also-
and
we
have
a
link
here-
I
think,
opens
yeah
that
that
link
will
take
you
to
to
where
you
need
to
go.
A
F
A
I
I
so
the
intention
in
my
approach
and-
and
I
can-
I
can't
speak
for
everyone,
but
is
that
you
complete,
you
know
a
micro
task
of
you
know,
so
you
can
like
the
first
one's,
usually
the
place
to
start
and
like
in
the
case
of
conversion
rates.
I
think
if
you
get
either
auger
or
more
lab
running,
that's
a
pretty
sufficient
micro
task
to
demonstrate
essentially
demonstrate
sort
of
a.
A
What
would
we
call
it
an
interest,
a
commitment
to
working
on
that
project
to
to
getting
through
troubles,
obviously,
and-
and
so
the
other
micro
tasks
for
conversion
rate
would
be.
I
think
things
that
you
could
do
in
addition,
but
I
think
just
you
know
showing
that
you've
gotten
either
platform
installed
is
is
enough
for
us
to
know
that
you
know
you
have
the
skills
and
tenacity
to
do
the
work.
F
A
G
B
E
G
A
Should
help
so
if
you've,
just
if
you've
done
an
install
to
show
that
you've,
if
that's
the
micro
task
you've
completed,
I
think
you
could
demonstrate
that
by
posting
a
screenshot
of
the
running
system.
You
have
locally
into
the
into
the
comments,
and
you
can
also
then
add
your
name
here
by
you
know
doing
a
pull
request
for
this
page.
B
A
When
you're
finished
with
it,
you
can
submit
the
proposal
template
a
link
to
your
proposal
here
and
once
you've
submitted
it
to
the
google
summer
of
code.
You
can
indicate
that
here
so
the
the
micro
task
in
terms
of
a
link
to
the
micro
task
repository
if
you're
doing
the
first
micro
task
of
installing
either
platform,
then
what
I
would
do
is
make
that
a
link
to
your
fork
and
make
a
comment
on
the
issue
associated
with
that
project.
That
has
the
screenshot.
A
I
think
it's,
and
I
I
mean
pull
requests-
are,
are
good
as
well.
I
I
my
experience,
though,
is
that
gramor,
lab
and
auger
are
both
complex
enough.
That
doing
I
mean
you,
there
are
certainly
small
meaningful
pull
requests
that
you
could
do,
but
I
think
the
learning
curve
to
get
to
that
point
is
part
of
what
you
go
through
during
the
google
summer
of
code.
I
don't
know
what
what
do
you
think
don
does?
That's.
Does
that
sound,
reasonable
or
unmarked
to
you
or
are
we
do
you
think
we're
looking
for
more.
A
Yeah,
I
mean
it
usually
the
the
pull
requests
that
we
get
from
google
summer
of
code
students.
You
can
fix,
like
very
we
get
fixes
for
like
documentation,
issues
or
or
other
kinds
of
small
things
that
can
be
fixed
without
creating
a
very
you
know.
So
the
expectation
if
you
did
a
pull
request,
wouldn't
be
a
very
large
pull
request.
A
E
In
needed.
A
That's
that
sounds
good
to
me.
I
think
me,
you
know
using
one
of
the
gremore
lab
pieces.
Grimoire
live,
has
really
good
documentation
and
I
think
it's
linked
in
some
of
the
micro
tasks,
and
so
that
might
be
the
place
to
to
look
is
in
the
group
or
more
lab
documentation.
But
there
are
a
number
of
pieces
to
the
stack
and
I
think
the
the
gremore
lab
documentation.
A
Leads
you
through
a
very
nice
hello,
world
kind
of
a
process.
A
Yeah,
it's
it's
really
good,
it's
a
really
good
tutorial.
So
that's
a
probably
a
good
place
to
start.
A
A
You
know
that,
and
so
I
think
I
I've
always
relied
on
a
lot
of
my
own
context
and
ability
and
experience
and
ability
to
decode
things
to
interpret
documentation
and
recognize
the
steps
that
aren't
spelled
out
sometimes
so,
and
I
think
I
think
that's
pretty
common
in
open
source.
To
be
honest-
and
this
this
is
a
very
nice
exception
to
that
general
thing.
A
So
going
are
there.
I
know
that
we've
so
started
working
on
and
talking
about
different
metrics
models,
including
conversion
rate,
and
I
I
believe
I
saw
there
was
another
one
that
the
evolution
group
started.
Looking
at
the
other
day
that
opened
up
some
questions
about.
A
About
what
to
do,
and
if
I
can
just
let's
see
so
I'm
trying
to
remember
the
question.
A
Yeah
or
I
can
get
it
from
a
different
different
meeting
like
from
the
chaos
meeting
yesterday,.
A
I
got
sunday
to
through
this
to
the
chatty
wind,
the
chatty
window.
B
A
A
A
B
No
73
lines,
I
think
it's
conversion
rate.
A
Now
I
was
like
I
was
talking
about
code
complexity,
okay,
sorry,
and
there
was
a.
A
The
the
the
metrics
are
dynamic,
in
other
words,
they're,
always
changing.
There's,
always
new
issues,
new
comments,
new
pull,
requests,
new
commits
it's
it's
sort
of
tracking
an
evolutionary
process
in,
I
think
the
case
of
nearly
every
metric,
with
the
possible
exceptions,
maybe
of
elephant
factory
and
bus
factor,
although
even
those
can
move
significantly
and
quickly
over
time.
A
That
might
not
look
very
different
a
year
from
now
than
they
do
today,
which
is
in
contrast
to
most
of
our
metrics,
and
so
there
was
some
discussion
in
the
evolution
group
about
whether
or
not
these
are
metrics,
or
these
should
be
something
else
if,
because
they
look
different
than
other
metrics,
and
there
was
some
concern
that
they
might
confuse
people-
and
I
from
my
from-
but
I
see
things
through
a
long
chaos
lens
and
software
engineering
work
and
to
me
these
are
just
basically
slow-moving
static,
metrics,
that's
what's
different,
but
they're
still
they're
still
metrics,
and
maybe
we
could
distinguish
them
as
slower,
moving
or
nearly
static,
but
other
than
that
they're
the
same.
A
B
What
others
think?
Actually
I
have
a
similar
concern
that
you
you
know
in
the
chaos
we
set
up,
we
create
matrix
to
measuring
the
the
situation
of
the
the
whole
project
of
community
if
we
deep
dive
into
the
code
quality
because
the
so-called
complexity.
For
me,
it's
it's
a
one
term
for
the
code
quality
and
it
makes
me
think
of
the
circle
complexity
of
the
code.
Yeah,
not
just
this
lots
of
code
surrounding
this.
You
know
the
the
matrix.
B
So
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
it,
that's
it
reflects
some
and
for
me,
lines
of
code
is
a
is
a
metric
to
to
reflect
the
workload
of
a
project,
but
it
doesn't
to
reflect
the
quality
of
the
code.
I
mean
right
for
the
different
person
they
write
in
the
same
function.
You
know
based
on
their.
They
have
the
experiences
about
this
project.
They
may
you
know
for
the
same
function.
The
lancer
code
should
be
different.
You
know
right
some
experience.
The
developer
could
just
use.
B
For
for
me,
if
I'm,
if
I
more
care
about
the
quality
of
code,
I
think
I
think
we
we
do
need
to
care
about
code
quality,
but
and
lots
of
code
is
just
a
small
part
of
things,
and
I
I
would
more
care
about
that
this
community.
However,
the
review
code
review
process
that
this
community
has
a
ci,
but
you
know
say:
hi,
running
precise,.
B
You
know
complexity,
proceeds
kind
of
hard
to
to
explain
in
the
common
way
I
mean
you
know
for
the
different
programming
language.
They
have
different
way
to
marry
that
and
even
for
the
same
thing.
For
example,
I
just
mentioned
the
circle
complexity
for
the
different
program,
language,
even
for
the
different
project.
B
They
have
different.
You
know
the
requirement
about
it,
yeah
it's
kind
of
hard
to
do
the
comparison
between
two
communities.
So,
if
we
do
not,
we
cannot
compare.
How
do
we
know
that
our
code,
complexity
or
quality
is
good
or
not
right?
That's.
B
G
B
B
A
Okay,
that
that
sort
of
weighs
in
on
that
and
I'll
bring
that
back
to
the
community
meeting
and
obviously
I
think,
we'll
discuss
it
in
the
metrics
models
meeting
next
week
as
well.
B
And
also,
I
noticed
that,
because
I
you
know
before
because
of
time
differences,
it's
kind
of
hard
for
me
to
attend
this
community
meeting,
but
every
time
I
I
look
at
it,
I
I
I'm
watching
the
records.
It's
really
good.
So
next
time
I
will
try
to
to
attend
it.
Okay,
yeah.
A
D
E
Yeah
sure
sure
why
not
so
my
name
is
ayush
koshik,
I'm
from
india
and
currently
in
third
year
undergraduate,
pursuing
a
b
tech
in
electronics
and
communication
engineering
from
national
institute
of
technology.
Hummingbird.
A
Yeah,
that's,
that's,
that's
harder.
Hopefully
we
get
you
through
it,
but
I
understand
the
challenges
of
trying
to
run
the
auger
project
on
windows.
It's
not
requires
a
lot
of
backflips
and
we
did.
We
did
try
to
document
it
at
one
point,
but
the
updates
to
windows
kept
changing
the
security
settings
so
frequently
that
keeping
the
documentation
up
to
date,
when
none
of
us
used
windows
was
proved
more
more
labor
than
we
had
people
to
perform.
It.
A
E
Myself,
you
know
created
two
to
three
instances
of
ubuntu
machine
on
my
virtualbox.
So
sometimes
you
know
the
driver
had
the
problem.
Sometimes
the
network.
A
A
Yeah
yeah
well
keep
asking
questions
and
I'll
keep
answering
them
in
our
slack
channel
and,
and
you
get
credit
for
giving
it
a
try
for
sure
so.
Welcome.
Welcome
to
the
community.
A
G
A
A
E
It's
april
19th
from
april
4th,
we
have
to
you,
know,
start
some
of
the
proposals.
Okay,.