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From YouTube: CHAOSS Asia-Pacific Community Call 10-20-21
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A
Recording
has
begun
for
this
call
on
october
20th
hi.
Everybody
welcome
to
the
asia
pacific
community
call
on
october
20th
and
I
think
it's
october
20th
for
everybody
so
welcome.
I
put
the
minutes
in
the
chat,
so
if
you
could
open
those
up,
then
I
will
also
sean.
Can
you
make
me
co-host
with?
Oh,
I
sure
can.
A
Okay,
that
should
be
the
one.
So
today
we
have
a
few
things
on
the
agenda
so
who
put
these
on?
Thank
you
very
much
because
I
didn't
do
it,
but
the
first
thing
that
we're
going
to
take
a
look
at
actually
maybe
the
first
thing
that
I
do
just
want
to
talk
about
is
the
metrics
release
and
then
we
should
have
just
because
that
was
a
fairly
large
event
that
occurred
very
recently.
A
So,
just
as
a
note
for
everybody
on
this
on
this
call,
I
think
many
of
you
know
we
had
a
recent
metrics
release
from
the
chaos
community.
I
don't
even
know
how
many
metrics
we
had.
I
think
it
was
in
the
teens
how
many.
C
A
A
Oh
right
well,
thank
you,
shoya!
You
know
better
than
I
do
so.
Absolutely
wonderful
and
there's
a
great
round,
and
this
more
importantly
or
just
as
importantly,
this
was
also
the
first
release
that
included
the
the
chinese
translations.
So
I
don't
know,
did
have
you
shaya
or
taiwai.
Have
you
had
a
chance
to
see
that
pdf
that
chinese
translations
pdf
yeah
kevin.
D
Kevin
yesterday
sent
me
the
pdf
to
review
the
whole
things
yeah.
Okay,
it
looks
good
and
then
also,
I
suggest
that
to
add
the
people
who
make
contribution
on
the
translation
to
the
to
the
contribution
list.
Gotcha.
A
A
D
A
Down
here
great
so.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
All
I
can
say
is
looking
at.
This
is
just
an
immense
thank
you
to
everybody.
Thinking
today
on
my
my
rent,
I
need
to
send
you
all
like
a
thank
you
gift
of
some
sort.
I
need
to
somehow
other
than
just
saying.
Thank
you.
I
need
to
send
you
something
that,
like
is
chaos
related,
so
that
is
certainly,
and
we
have.
A
I
don't
want
to
like
build
it
up
too
much,
because
you
might
get
it
and
be
like
okay.
That
sounds
great.
I
mean
it
was
just
absolutely
wonderful,
so
I
just
can't
even
and
what
a
from
my
perspective,
what
a
huge
like
push
this
was
for
this
round,
because
it
might
my
thought
is-
and
you
can
both
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
the
next
round
should
be
a
little
bit
easier
in
terms
of
work
workload.
A
A
All
right
all
right,
so
we
did
have
the
contributor
recommendability.
So
this
is
a,
I
think.
Would
you
would
you
call
this
a
metrics
model?
Is
that
where
we're
starting
to
fall
here
or
is
this
a
matter.
A
A
Gotcha,
okay,
so
let
me
also
for
taiway,
so
taiway.
A
So
when
a
new
metric
comes
up,
one
of
the
things
that
that
we
do
is
just
try
to
start
thinking
what
that
metric
could
be,
and
what
the
question
around
that
metric
would
be
answering
yehui,
just
kind
of
a
question
for
you.
Do
you
have
thoughts?
I
think
you're,
probably
quite
familiar
with
this
and
sean?
Could
you
put
the
spreadsheet
in
the
minutes
for
a
second
yeah.
D
I
think
we
can
put
it
under
the
list.
Sorry
value
working
value,
working
group.
Okay.
What
do
you
think.
B
A
A
E
A
Good
question:
let
me
just
finish
my
thought
here:
yeah
and
so
within
each
one
of
the
working
groups.
We
have
like
row
40
or
rule
47
or
row
63.
We
have
what
are
called
focus
areas
and
we
further
kind
of
identify
the
metrics
as
living
in
a
particular
focus
area,
the
placing
a
metric
in
a
particular
working
group
and
then
subsequently
in
a
lower
level
focus
area.
It's
not
always
an
exact
science.
A
It's
not
always
perfect,
as
one
metric
may,
maybe
maybe
placed
in
one
focus
area
but
actually
could
be
placed
fairly
easily
in
another
focus
area.
We
just
need
to
provide
some
categorization
of
the
metrics
so
that
people
can
approach
them
a
little
bit
more
easily.
So
the
question
here
is:
we
have
the
metric,
which
is
and
then
to
your
point,
sean
and
we
have
the
metric
contributor
net
recommendability.
A
E
E
A
A
F
E
You
have
to
research
yeah,
I
know
I'm,
it
makes
me
go
through
a
whole
bunch
of
googly
things
to
do
that
there.
It
is.
Thank
you.
B
B
G
A
A
F
A
A
Okay,
elizabeth,
do
you
have
this
one
it's
in
the
spreadsheet,
so
maybe
we
could
take
a
few
minutes,
maybe
even
just
like
five
or
five
or
five
or
ten
minutes.
I
was.
I
don't
know
what
I
was
saying,
but
five
minutes
or
so
and
take
a
look
at
this
metric
and
just
let's
add
anything
that
you
think
helps
you
better
understand
the
metric
would
that
work
for
people.
A
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
stop
my
share
sean.
Can
you
pause
the
recording
for
just
to.
A
There
we
go
all
right,
so
does
anybody
want
to
tell
us
kind
of
what
they
what
they
did
or
thoughts
they
might
have
or
defend
their
work?
Anything
like
that.
D
A
So
I
like
that
I'm
wondering
maybe
for
an
example
survey
we
could
ask
like.
Could
you
specify
like
we
could
work
this
out
where
you
primarily
contribute.
A
A
Community
project
and
then
could
you
specify
to
elizabeth's
point
I'm
with
elizabeth
too
on
this
one,
the
demographic
segments
of
response.
D
H
I
was
just
thinking
like
it
would
be
really
helpful
if
you
know
the
you
know
like
younger
people
love
the
community.
Older
people
didn't
so
like
that
would
be
really
helpful,
but
I
don't
know
how
to
collect
that
information
if
we
were
just
trying
to
keep
this
a
anonymous,
but
also
just
as
like
a
one-line
thing
like.
Would
you
recommend
yes
or
no
right.
H
D
I'm
thinking,
as
you
can
see
from
the
references
it's
actually
it's
referenced
from
the
knight
pro
motor
skull
or
system.
It's
just
a
recommend
that
we
just
asked
two
simple
questions.
First
question:
is
that
question:
how
would
you
recommend
how
likely
you
you
would
recommend
your
a
community
to
your
friends
and
colleagues,
and
the
second
question
should
be
to
specify
why
why
do
you
like?
Why
do
you
not
like?
D
Could
you
specify
a
specific
for
that
and
we
they
could
know
that
which
part
we
could.
We
are
doing
much
very
good,
but
some
areas
we
still
improve
that.
So
I
add
some
survey
questions
here.
For
the
first
question
I,
as
I
mentioned,
I
use
a
record
scale
from
the
arrow
to
to
some
some
score
and,
following
the
question
really
depends
on
the
first
question's
answer,
not
at
all
likely
on
nature
or
extreme
likely.
It's
following
the
different
question.
H
So
if
we,
if
we
connect
someone's
like
get
lab
account,
for
instance,
to
where
they're
filling
this
survey
out,
then
that
would
give
us
more
information
about
them
without
them.
Having
to
tell
us
you
know,
we
can
tell
like
how
long
they've
been
in
the
community.
How
many
you
know
contributions
they've
made,
so
we
could
build
some
context
around
that
question.
H
It
would
be
limited,
but
we
could
do
that,
but
if
we're,
if
we
don't
want
to,
if
we
want
to
keep
it
anonymous,
then
like
that's
all
we're
going
to
get
is
is
why
is
whether
or
not
they're
you
know
going
to
recommend
and
why
so,
which
is
also
valid?
You
know,
I
think.
D
D
So
first
we
will
put
those
questions
as
three
into
the
issue
handling
cycle
like
whenever
a
new
issue
is
closed.
We
will
pop
up
this
link
accessory
link
to
axiom.
Are
you
satisfied
with
the
whole
issue
handling
process,
and
then
we
will
follow
the
those
questions.
Would
you
recommend
this
community
a
project
to
other
people?
D
And
why
and
it
we
can
also
accent
to
leave
their
email
choice,
because
if
their
answer
is
and
not
at
all,
luckily
or
they
are-
they
mention
some
reasons
that
why
I
don't
like
this
community,
we
maybe
could
contact
with
those
people
to
to
do
some
further
conversation
to
see.
What's
the
root
cause
to
to,
let
you
not
like
our
community,
so
that's
that's
the
tryout
in
our
community
currently.
B
D
D
I
prefer
the
creator
of
the
issue
of
the
code
author
of
this
pr,
so
I
will
pop
up
this
question
to
those
people.
Firstly,
of
course,
the
people
who,
as
the
maintainer
I
I
could
do
some
the
similar
investigation
or
survey
to
those
those
kind
of
law,
but
the
currently
our
er
tryout.
We
have
to
do
that,
so
we
are
looking
forward
to
the
future.
D
A
E
E
Right
right
I
mean
you
can
create
a
get.
You
could
create
a
github
action
and
other
platforms
have
similar
triggers.
That
would
send
a
survey
link
to
somebody
if
you
wanted
it
to
pop
up
in
the
interface
where
you
create
the
pull
request.
That
would
require
some
direct
involvement
of
each
platform,
but
you
can
definitely
create
actions
that
would
send
a
survey
out
upon
opening
a
pull
request
like
to
an
email
or
as
a
message
within
their
platform
account.
D
D
A
The
issue
or
pr
is
closed,
it
adds
it
adds.
One
final
kind
of
comment
that
says
thanks
for
participating
in
this
issue
or
pr,
here's
a
there's,
a
link
to
a
survey,
we'd
love
for
you
to
fill
it
out,
whatever
the
text
might
be,
but
something
like
you.
B
A
How
do
you,
how
do
you,
how
do
you
manage
do
you
just
do
it
for
every
issue
in
pr?
Yes,.
D
A
D
Email,
sorry
from
the
link.
Actually
we
have
a
survey
system
to
design
this
questions.
B
D
After
after
we
got
the
the
result,
survey
results,
we
were
handling
that
automatically,
for
example,
if
the
people
they
do
not,
they
totally
do
not
like
our
community.
Maybe
we
are
sending
mail
to
to
to
maintainers
to
tell
me
directly,
but
but
we
have
to
do
do
that.
Why
why
people
just
give
us
a
narrow
score?
D
D
What's
the
final
result,
is
it
a
good
choice
or
a
certified
choice?
We
can
figure
out
after
we
are
doing
some.
You
know
more.
A
D
A
Because
I'm
thinking
I
mean
one
of
the
listening
to
your
talk
as
a
as
a
professor,
we
give
course
evaluations
at
the
end
of
a
class
which
is
similar
right.
The
cloud
the
action
is
class
is
over.
We
send
out
an
evaluation,
how
much
they
like
the
class.
Essentially
sometimes
they
have
a
tendency
of
leaning
towards.
If
you
like,
the
class,
you
don't
respond
and
if
you
didn't
like
the
class,
let
me
tell
you
you
fill
out
the
survey
so.
D
D
C
I'm
not
sure
if
I
missed
the
discussion
or
if
we
focus
on
those
active
contributors,
so
they
will
kind
of
receive
an
email
or
a
comment
receive
the
survey
for
every
issue
or
pr.
They
created.
D
We
can
just
figure
out
filter
out
the
the
issue
closed
or
mentioned
by
some
board,
except
for
that
once
this
issue
is
totally
created
by
the
human
and
they
do
some
conversations
between
maintainers
and
and
creators,
and
this
issue
is
closed.
Then
we
will
send
this
three.
Otherwise
we
will
not
send
this
way.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
this
code,
there
are
some
conversations
or
discussions-
happened
during
this
issue.
A
B
B
A
D
A
Yes,
yeah.
We
will
certainly
get
that
tomorrow,
no
doubt
so,
if
we
will
the
again
thank
you
on
the
train,
we're
just
approaching
the
end
of
time.
So
thank
you
on
the
translations
again
and
then
I
think
elizabeth.
There
was
a
action
item
here
for
you
I
assume
eb.
Is
you.
H
A
J
Okay,
he
did
respond.
He
said
you
can
reach
out.